Domain: spam.com
Stories and comments across the archive that link to spam.com.
Comments · 222
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Re:Spam
Surely spam will smell of erm.... SPAM !
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Re:Alive and Well
He's trying to make the point that he's worried about the widespread proliferation of canned meats, as apposed to everyone's first, incorrect assumption, that he is talking about unsolicited email.
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Re:Alive and Well
He's trying to make the point that he's worried about the widespread proliferation of canned meats, as apposed to everyone's first, incorrect assumption, that he is talking about unsolicited email.
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Texas or Minnesota?
The subject line ought to read:
"City Of Austin (Texas) Migrating To OpenOffice.org."
Otherwise there may be confusion with Austin, Minnesota ... home of Hormel Foods, maker of Spam.
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CAN-SPAM
Is it just me, or does the title of this Act serve as advertisement for a certain company. Personally, I'm opposed to government endorsement of large companies
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Re:Who wants to stop light?
Is there a such thing as light spam? Because if there is, you know, maybe it would easier to start with that...
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Re:I'm still waiting...I'm not sure if that was meant as a joke, but Hormel actually addressed the issue and, if nothing else, conceeded the inevitable - bulk e-mail is now named "spam" and there's nothing they can do about it. They just ask that you make sure to write SPAM in all caps when referring to the meat byproduct.
Oooh, and I just found the link to their page about spam vs SPAM.
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I'm still waiting...
I'm still waiting...For the Hormel company to file for patent infringement for the use of the word Spam
...They've been making spam since 1937, long before the internet was around
(not that their site isn't high tech :) )...
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Re:Eh?
How many Slashdot articles will refer to "SPAM" when they really mean "spam"?
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Re:Actually, no...
And now we've gone from idiots who use SPAM (a trademark of the Hormel product) instead of spam. In the future, why not use the contemporary term UBE (unsolicited bulk email) ? Even UCE is incorrect because ommercial does not cover all forms of garbage. Be prepared for the next election(s) - many of the candidates have staffs seeking people who will blast information out to everyone, even if they aren't in the catchment area of the candidate; i.e., be prepared for UBE from Dave running for Dog Catcher in Tempe, AZ, not just the national-level candidates. One California (governor) candidate in the last election hired a spammer who when asked if they could send it just to people in Ca said, "Sure!" and you can guess the results.
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Re:could NOT care less you idiot
What irritates me more is when people refer to junk email as "SPAM" instead of "spam"
actually, isn't that part of hormel's deal? we can continue to call UBE (insert full stops as required) SPAM as long as we capitalise it and they won't complain or try to sue anyone over dilution of trademark etc. (ie as spam is actually a product they sell).It's the other way around. Hormel has a trademark on 'SPAM' and would prefer UBE to be called 'spam'. See the SPAM website for more info.
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Re:Why is "SPAM" in caps?
Because that's how Hormel spells it.
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Who benefits from spam?
The mystery is revealed. It is the The Hormel Food Company!
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Re:"Tricks?"
Acually, if you write it in all caps, you are infringing on a Hormel Foods trademark, SPAM.
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A modest proposal
First, let me state that I'm sure Hormel doesn't mind being associated with UCE if it's pornographic UCE, especially gay kiddie porn, as they have already publicly done so with the San Francisco-based Hormel Library.
I suggest that we continue to call all unwanted email SPAM (make sure we get the case right, so as to match the way they describe their trademark), and good mail can be called Treet. Treet is just as good as SPAM, and none of the proceeds go towards the promotion of child molestation.
Let them stop products from using the name, while casual conversation, which is not bound by copyright law, specifically associates them with bad things, in comparison to their competitors. I don't care if James Hormel wants to get sexual gratifaction with another man. By the time somebody's grown up, if that's what they like, it's sad, but not as sad as denying them the right to love who they love. It's his predilection for young boys, and particularly his work to legitimize that pathological condition, that removes him from the ranks of humanity. -
Re:Good reputation?
OMFG! A Talking Goat. Like there are not enough human idiots here on Slashdot. Read your own quote, stupid! "...trademarks used... in this site... are owned by Hormel Foods:
... any... SPAM-derived terms...". So if you see SPAMWHORE on Hormel's site, be advised that this is most probably their trademark. The reason is that they are talking about THEIR PRODUCTS on this site, and I guess they would register a trademark before introducing the product on the market and discussing it on the site.
So if you make up the word SPAMSTUPIDTALKINGGOAT, it is unlikely to be used on spam.com.
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Hormel speaks on SPAM vs spam (5 years ago)
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Thoughts on SPAM and spam from the makers of SPAMClick here for their explanation and feelings on the use of the term.
In particular, an excerpt on how they want it used:
We do not object to use of this slang term to describe UCE, although we do object to the use of our product image in association with that term. Also, if the term is to be used, it should be used in all lower-case letters to distinguish it from our trademark SPAM, which should be used with all uppercase letters.
Now this is where it gets good, because this is the statement on whether it diminishes trademark (emphasis is mine):
This slang term does not affect the strength of our trademark SPAM. In a Federal District Court case involving the famous trademark STAR WARS owned by LucasFilms, the Court ruled that the slang term used to refer to the Strategic Defense Initiative did not weaken the trademark and the Court refused to stop its use as a slang term. Other examples of famous trademarks having a different slang meaning include MICKEY MOUSE, to describe something as unsophisticated; TEFLON, used to describe President Reagan; and CADILLAC, used to denote something as being high quality.
In short, it's interesting that, despite saying this on their website, they'd slap (or is that SLAPP here?) somebody in the face about this.
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Re:Etymology
According to Hormel it all started with a Monty Python skit.
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true etymology of the name
From the timeline on their webpage:
1937: SPAM is born! The first can of SPAM rolls off the production line. Originally called HORMEL Spiced Ham, the comapny holds a contest to create a name as distinctive as the taste. B combining the "sp" from spiced with the "am" from ham, the winner comes up with SPAM. Top prize: $100.
So there you have it: "SPiced hAM" => SPAM. And to think some dude only got 100 bones for that name. If only he knew what he started... -
Hey, read your own statement Hormel
Hum spam.com
Note: UCE stated means: "unsolicited commercial email"
We do not object to use of this slang term to describe UCE, although we do object to the use of our product image in association with that term. Also, if the term is to be used, it should be used in all lower-case letters to distinguish it from our trademark SPAM, which should be used with all uppercase letters.
Ah, I forgot about that other hand, again!
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Re:To late foo!"It looks like they are only suing because Spam Arrest tried to Trademark Spam. in that case I think they are in their rights because otherwise the UCE company could try to stop them selling their meat-like substance as Spam."
If people had read the article on their website regarding use of their tradmark name SPAM, they would also realise how reasonable the company has been [or had to be
:) .]"We do not object to use of this slang term to describe UCE, although we do object to the use of our product image in association with that term. Also, if the term is to be used, it should be used in all lower-case letters to distinguish it from our trademark SPAM, which should be used with all uppercase letters.
This slang term does not affect the strength of our trademark SPAM. In a Federal District Court case involving the famous trademark STAR WARS owned by LucasFilms, the Court ruled that the slang term used to refer to the Strategic Defense Initiative did not weaken the trademark and the Court refused to stop its use as a slang term. Other examples of famous trademarks having a different slang meaning include MICKEY MOUSE, to describe something as unsophisticated; TEFLON, used to describe President Reagan; and CADILLAC, used to denote something as being high quality." -
Re:I read, but
But isn't it too late for this? Haven't they been negligent?
No. Hormel has been very clear for years about using the word spam...err..SPAM(tm). -
Re:Good reputation?It's actually very funny... Hormel has been quite adamant about defending its SPAM(TM) for years, as I've noticed from reading some certain trade publications.
I've flipped through a few magazines marketed towards aspiring fiction writers, and these publications are littered with advertisements by companies demanding that writers reference their products correctly in any works produced. I specifically remember an ad by Hormel requesting that writers refer to Spam as "Hormel Foods Brand SPAM Luncheon Meat" anytime one would want to refer to it in some sort of work of literature.
Also, from the Spam.com Legal and Copyright Info page, I found this hilarious little bit:5. Trademark Information. The following trademarks used or which are planned to be used in this site, whether registered or unregistered, are owned by Hormel Foods: SPAM; HORMEL; SPAMBURGER; SPAMTASTIC and any other SPAM-derived terms.
So if I make up the word "SpamWhore", well, it's owned by Hormel Foods, and should have been spelled SPAMWHORE. Even though they've never registered it. Too funny.
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Re:Good reputation?A Google searchof "Monty Python+SPAM" gets you 2100 results.
Just one link gets lots of other links.
Spam Links Elsewhere
- Spam Museum
- The Official SPAM Home Page
- Spam Carving Contest
- Amazing and Fabulous Spam Site
- Uncle Mikey's House of Spam
- The Ultimate SPAM gift catalog
- Bob Bragner's "Hormhell" page
- Uncle Kevin's Spam page
- Spamland
- on and on...
Have fun Hormel! Bring on the litigious SPAM, SPAM, SPAM, SPAM, SPAM, SPAM... -
RTFA
The Austin, Minn., food company, which introduced Spam in 1937, challenged Spam Arrest's applications to trademark its company name.
They aren't suing because they use the word "Spam" in their company name, it is the fact they are trying to get a trademark of their company name (Spam Arrest), which Hormel is trying to stop. The use of the word "spam" to refer to junk email has already been addressed by them. This time, it is in regards to somebody using their trademark in a manner they have not approved of. -
Re:To late foo!
Not only that, they have historically actively encouraged the use of their name for UCE. I have read numerous articles in which Hormel representatives said it was fine with them and they even had a good humour about it. They even took the trouble to put up this website clarifying their position. They said as long as the name is not in all caps and their product image is not used, they do not care.
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HEADLINE WRONG - RTFA
No, Hormel is not suing Spamarrest over their name.
Hormel is opposing Spamarrest's attempt to TRADEMARK "Spamarrest".
It is clearly stated in the article. The /. editors did not read the article, just the submission, which was TOTALLY WRONG!
Hormel has been pretty damn cool about the whole "spam as email/SPAM as meat" thing - go look at their web page about it.
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Is this a change in position?
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They say this is OK on their website...A page on their website says that they are OK with people using the word "spam," as long as they don't use it in all caps.
From the site:
We do not object to use of this slang term to describe UCE, although we do object to the use of our product image in association with that term.
This seems like a break from that policy. -
Ack!
Hate Microsoft; hate spam.
Hate Microsoft; hate spam.
Evil greedy corporation; slimy pollution of the Internet.
Illegally abusing their monopoly; illegally hijacking servers.
Overpriced software; lowest mortgage rates ever.
Bug-ridden products; barnyard porn.
Embrace and extend; extend your manhood.
No concept of security; special offers on SystemWorks 2003.
Never innovating; always innovating.
I'm siding with Microsoft.
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Re:Nice!
FTC's current attempts at curtailing E-mail SPAM.
Please, don't refer to email spam in all caps. SPAM(tm) is a trademark of Hormel Foods, who have been quite good-natured about the use of the term to describe bulk email. -
Re:Highlights?
Small note.
SPAM is a meat product which is copyright of hormel.
They have an article on the way they would like the word to be used.
(in lowercase letters when not referring to them)
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Idiot moderators strike again!Although the double entendre was tasteless, the post was ontopic because Spam(tm) is made from PORK shoulder and ham!!!
Idiots.
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Re:umm...
I think you meant to say SPAM, in all caps. Quoth the site,
We do not object to use of this slang term to describe UCE, although we do object to the use of our product image in association with that term. Also, if the term is to be used, it should be used in all lower-case letters to distinguish it from our trademark SPAM, which should be used with all uppercase letters.
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Re:So..
They explain it pretty well here.
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Spam and SPAM
Heres what Hormel has to say on the subject of spam.
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umm...
Actually, Spam, has been around for over 100 years...just check the spam museum!
Hormel was started in 1891...way more than 25 years...in fact, last year the 6 billionth can of spam was made! -
Here's their disclaimer....
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Re:Waiting....Nah, Hormel's cool about using the term spam to describe unsolicited commercial email. It's so refreshing to see a company have some common sense when it comes to trademark issues.
We do not object to use of this slang term to describe UCE, although we do object to the use of our product image in association with that term. Also, if the term is to be used, it should be used in all lower-case letters to distinguish it from our trademark SPAM, which should be used with all uppercase letters.
This slang term does not affect the strength of our trademark SPAM. In a Federal District Court case involving the famous trademark STAR WARS owned by LucasFilms, the Court ruled that the slang term used to refer to the Strategic Defense Initiative did not weaken the trademark and the Court refused to stop its use as a slang term. Other examples of famous trademarks having a different slang meaning include MICKEY MOUSE, to describe something as unsophisticated; TEFLON, used to describe President Reagan; and CADILLAC, used to denote something as being high quality.
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SPAM anti-spam
Who knew capitalization was so important outside an English class? From the official SPAM site:
"We oppose the act of "spamming" or sending unsolicited commercial e-mail (UCE). We have never engaged in this practice, although we have been victimized by it. If you have been one of those who has received UCE with a return address using our website address of SPAM.com, it wasn't us. It's easy and commonplace for somebody sending UCE to simply adopt a fake header ID, which disguises the true source of the UCE and makes it appear that it is coming from someone else. If you have or do receive UCE with this header ID, please understand that it didn't come from us." -
Re:Anti-Spam
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The Spam Fanclub is the orignin
All these damn spam fanboys are ruining the net!
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Re:didn't mention google's legal goons, though
Same way as kleenex,xerox and hormel(spam) have done.
Actually, Hormel has, in fact, stated that they don't mind the use of Spam to describe unwanted e-mail. -
Re:Now can we settle it once and for all?
Nee, nee... du mengs SPAM
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Re:Chinese cuisine seems appropriate
Huh? In case you haven't been paying attention lately, Ralsky's in Bloomfield Hills, Michigan, and he appears to have goons in Colorado and Georgia. I'd post links to the recent (and repeated) slashdot postings about this, but someone would surely flay me alive for it.
And what does SPAM have to do with Chinese food in Cambridge? -
Re:The Gift of Spam
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Someone should start sending him *real* SPAM
A few hundred (or thousands) of cans of SPAM (http://www.spam.com/) might be appropriate
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Send Ralsky SPAM?
How about we take up a collection and send him a truck load of SPAM as in the canned meat like product?
We just have to set up something like a PayPal account to contribute to, and contact Hormel, and have them deliver a truck load to his home. -
Re:Important information just in.....