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Re:The winter is coming
The next ice age is approaching!
There was actually recently a report which claims that the world is heading for a period of cooling that will not end until the middle of this century.
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Re:Wait... this happened before
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Re:Could this story please dieWe know that Google sniffed the data, because the German caught them lying about what data they collected.
Before the German asked them to hand over the data, they were falsely stating that they did not store any.http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/05/wifi-data-collection-update.html
Also, they impeded US investigation over that matter.
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/374095/google-fined-for-impeding-wi-fi-data-investigation
Finally, they lied again about having already deleted the data.
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Re:Whatever
This close enough?
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Them politicians ... sigh !
" Key members of the U.S. House of Representatives are seeking to require the National Science Foundation (NSF) to justify every grant it awards as being in the 'national interest.' "
Although I agree that the Republican proposal is asininely stupid, I really can't blame them, because they are reacting against Obama --- such as the equally insanely asinine order from Obama to Nasa to make the Muslims to " feel good ".
Before you guys accuse me of Islamophobic, I do provide proofs with links below ---
http://frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/obamas-muslim-self-esteem-nasa-in-complete-disarray/
http://www.space.com/8725-nasa-chief-bolden-muslim-remark-al-jazeera-stir.html
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Re:Allow me to be the first to say ...
Awesome work guys.
Ah no. Not really.
The media would like to know why the money wasn't spent on `sanitation.'
Though the mission is cheap by developed countries' standards, it has faced criticism in India where commentators have questioned why the money has not been spent instead on improving poor sanitation.
So, what have you to say for yourselves, space cowboys of India?
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Re:And what good would that have done?
Even if you think what Snowden did was praiseworthy, if you are intellectually honest you must admit that there is at the least controversy and some "complexity" in accessing his actions. There are many who consider his leaks showing surveillance of the American people to be excusable, but not the leaks about American intelligence operations overseas. There is a precedent for acknowledging that sort complexity. If he is to have any memorials, they should be informed by the handling of another similarly "complex" figure.. Personally I think the other "complex" man was more of a genuine American hero than Snowden since he at least helped America to win some victories. Snowden, on the other hand, has brought naught but damage to America and its allies, and may have handed the keys to future victories to adversaries of America and the West. At least the Russians are getting something useful from him. Perhaps they'll give him a plaque as they gave another hero in Russia.
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Re:Pakistani spies 'operating in Britain'?
My mistake. This is the one I should have linked to:
'Pakistani spies' in the Houses of Parliament
US prosecutors claim that three “Kashmir Centers” in Washington, London and Brussels, are run on behalf of “elements of the Pakistani government, including Pakistan’s military intelligence service, the Inter-Services Intelligence Agency (ISI).”
The Pakistani intelligence services seem to not come to the attention of the press too often in the UK. There is an allegation that they were involved with Sri Lanka's intelligence service in the UK to recruit and train operatives against the Tamils.
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Relying exclusively on electronic technology
Relying exclusively on electronic technology introduce a single point of point of failure. Fly by wires, car ecu etc.
Not being able to fall back to some kind of manual mechanical control introduces all kinds of vulnerabilities. Whether it is a glitch in the software, solar flares, aliens or something else
;-)http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/10/29/208205/toyotas-killer-firmware
http://www.ecutesting.com/toyota.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly-by-wire
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Re:Worried about the wrong country?
There is ample reason for concern about Russia, China, and even Pakistan.
Number of Russian spies in the UK back to Cold War levels, say security services
Chinese Espionage: Britain's MI5 reports epidemic in spying
China's spies come out from the cold
Pakistani spies 'operating in Britain'I very much doubt that the US has ever aimed nuclear weapons at the United Kingdom. The Soviets / Russians certainly have. They still come for visits.
RAF catches Russian bombers in UK airspace
Yes, yes, I know, but still. Scramble! Scramble! Russian nuclear bandits at 12 o'clock!': The Kremlin's taunting Britain with Blackjack bombers -
Re:Worried about the wrong country?
There is ample reason for concern about Russia, China, and even Pakistan.
Number of Russian spies in the UK back to Cold War levels, say security services
Chinese Espionage: Britain's MI5 reports epidemic in spying
China's spies come out from the cold
Pakistani spies 'operating in Britain'I very much doubt that the US has ever aimed nuclear weapons at the United Kingdom. The Soviets / Russians certainly have. They still come for visits.
RAF catches Russian bombers in UK airspace
Yes, yes, I know, but still. Scramble! Scramble! Russian nuclear bandits at 12 o'clock!': The Kremlin's taunting Britain with Blackjack bombers -
Re:It's all a sham
Cold we are seeing the boasting about successes getting smaller and smaller.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/2/nsa-chief-figures-foiled-terror-plots-misleading/
As for tactics every State run group of freedom fighters usually gets some support as in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunduz_airlift
or http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10311007/Syria-nearly-half-rebel-fighters-are-jihadists-or-hardline-Islamists-says-IHS-Janes-report.html
Snowden's leaks are from material given to people entering the system as contractors, of great use to historians and for getting global crypto usable again
The "freedom' fighters seem o be doing just fine with their own gov supporters.
So cold the the public is hearing about junk encryption, the brands that help with little worry about legality and vast domestic surveillance nets. -
Does this include ....
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Re:Thank goodness
I don't know how we could kickstart competition either. Perhaps nobody knows that. That's why my preference is to go with a solution that is already known to work because the entire first world but us has already done it.
Except they haven't figured it out either. The fact they're beating us handily is merely proof of how fucked up our system is, not of how good theirs is. Healthcare costs over there have been rising substantially as well, and many of those systems are making alot of hard choices. NHS comes to mind as a system that appears to be struggling heavily:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10162848/NHS-is-about-to-run-out-of-cash-top-official-warns.html
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/britains-rx-to-fix-health-care-a-pen-and-paper/article15120806/
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/aug/08/opinion/la-oe-dalrymple-british-health-system-20120808Single payer isn't a silver bullet. I wish people would stop thinking it is. It comes with its own host of problems.
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Re:I think we should "legal term" this guy
The people we are waterboarding, on the other hand, have demonstrated both the desire and the ability to do us harm
Except for the innocent.
A cursory search reveals:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/04/former-state-department-official-team-bush-knew-many-at-gitmo-were-innocent/275327/
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/opinion/sunday/notes-from-a-guantanamo-survivor.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8471907/WikiLeaks-Guantanamo-Bay-terrorist-secrets-revealed.html
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/19/ex-bush-official-guantanamo-bay-innocent/
http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=1997083
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/25/guantanamo-files-wrong-place-time
http://www.democracynow.org/2011/4/25/wikileaks_documents_reveal_us_knowingly_imprisoned
And many more.You've never experienced the fanatical hatred these "people" have for those who don't share their ideology.
I lived in Israel from 1973 to 2000, 7 of those years I spent in the IDF (mandatory + standing army) and then did reserve service (as Captain) before emigrating.
I have experienced the hatred of people that would bomb a school-bus just to make headlines and I still find your attitude toward torture despicable. -
Re:I'm for this
Terrorists?
Why would they try to stop terrorists? The sooner there is another successful attack the sooner their budget gets doubled.
Your thinking is too limited. It's obvious that they enjoy being the subject of Congressional probes about their failures, with the added chance that the boss could be fired like just happened to two Marine generals fired for negligence in Afghanistan. Since half of NSA is reported to be military, there might even be a court martial or dozens.
And if it turned out that the attack they didn't stop was one involving Black Plague that ended up killing tens of thousands of Americans, just think of the pride they would feel. "I didn't stop that!"
Of course you have to understand that not everyone lives in a morally inverse universe, so their thinking may not be understandable by everyone.
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Re:wrong target
Will someone remember Snowden is pointing out info to everyone. The most important info. Heck, the Russians pale in comparison to the dangers of the NSA. Ever heard of transparency? Got a clue?
Interesting comment from an Anonymous Coward, and provably wrong. I think you would have to point to genuine transparency on the part of Russia. As to the danger of Russia compared to NSA, to start with, NSA doesn't have nuclear weapons aimed at NATO countries, Russia does, and that's not all. Russia has apparently continued the former Soviet practice of killing dissidents and defectors. Of course Snowden was welcomed to Russia after he made arrangements with the Russian consulate in Hong Kong.
Russian general says Poland a nuclear 'target'
Number of Russian spies in the UK back to Cold War levels, say security services
Russia supported Litvinenko murder, says security official
The Russian government supported the murder of the former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko, it was reported last night.
A senior security official told BBC's Newsnight there were "very strong indications it was a state action" and that the Russian security services continued to have a "willingness to consider operations against people in the west".
Last year, the CPS issued an extradition warrant to bring Lugovoi back to the UK from Russia, but Putin refused to hand him over, saying it would be in breach of his country's constitution to do so.
Newsnight said it was told Russia's internal security organisation, the FSB, operated with far more autonomy than organisations usually entrusted with foreign espionage operations.
The source said: "We very strongly believe the Litvinenko case to have had some state involvement."
The source used an MI5 operation last summer in which officers arrested and deported a man they believed to be on a mission to kill another Russian dissident, Boris Berezovsky, as an example of "continued FSB willingness to consider operations against people in the west".
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Re:wrong target
Will someone remember Snowden is pointing out info to everyone. The most important info. Heck, the Russians pale in comparison to the dangers of the NSA. Ever heard of transparency? Got a clue?
Interesting comment from an Anonymous Coward, and provably wrong. I think you would have to point to genuine transparency on the part of Russia. As to the danger of Russia compared to NSA, to start with, NSA doesn't have nuclear weapons aimed at NATO countries, Russia does, and that's not all. Russia has apparently continued the former Soviet practice of killing dissidents and defectors. Of course Snowden was welcomed to Russia after he made arrangements with the Russian consulate in Hong Kong.
Russian general says Poland a nuclear 'target'
Number of Russian spies in the UK back to Cold War levels, say security services
Russia supported Litvinenko murder, says security official
The Russian government supported the murder of the former Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko, it was reported last night.
A senior security official told BBC's Newsnight there were "very strong indications it was a state action" and that the Russian security services continued to have a "willingness to consider operations against people in the west".
Last year, the CPS issued an extradition warrant to bring Lugovoi back to the UK from Russia, but Putin refused to hand him over, saying it would be in breach of his country's constitution to do so.
Newsnight said it was told Russia's internal security organisation, the FSB, operated with far more autonomy than organisations usually entrusted with foreign espionage operations.
The source said: "We very strongly believe the Litvinenko case to have had some state involvement."
The source used an MI5 operation last summer in which officers arrested and deported a man they believed to be on a mission to kill another Russian dissident, Boris Berezovsky, as an example of "continued FSB willingness to consider operations against people in the west".
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Re:cutting drivers pay can end up badly
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Re:Oh god
The communists and the nazis are much the same, allowing their feelings to trump reality. That is why so many died under Franco, Stalin, Mao, etc. The difference is that they killed anyone who spoke out against their deadly foolishness, rather than simply castigating them with ad hominem (don't agree with what I say? You must be a tea bagger, ie a homosexual even though homosexuals are generally my constituents. But it's you guys who are prejudiced, not me, no sir.).
Nice strawman with the daily mail, but kudos for at least using google. Might try this one instead: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/5712573/UK-is-violent-crime-capital-of-Europe.html
Apparently, violent crime is up six-fold over the last sixty years, concurrent with ever-tightening gun control laws. You forgot that the UK didn't go from guns everywhere to no guns in 1997. They had been gradually reducing really since the early 20th century, but really took off with the controls in the 1960's.
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Re:Who's surprised?
They can & do try. It's not exactly a secret that Russia has physical spies in the U.S. or China has been cyber-attacking the U.S. or 'friendly' nations like France doing corporate espionage.
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Re:Sounds ominous, but...
So, on the whole, I'd say that Ireland is more pleased about the Good Friday Agreement than some of the southern US states will ever be about the outcome of the Civil War.
Do you really want to get into an atrocity count of the US vs. GB? I mean, we score pretty high with our native American policy since independence and our keeping slavery a few extra years, but I mean, have you seen the list of countries that have been invaded by GB? I can hardly hope to compete with that, though we've tried to use it as a checklist in the last century or so. Jim Crow only gets us so far.
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Re:really?
Like the Pay to Slay of the Liverpool pathway? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9644287/NHS-millions-for-controversial-care-pathway.html. Or perhaps this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/nhs/10387187/NHS-faces-bankruptcy-over-ageing-population.html
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Re:really?
Like the Pay to Slay of the Liverpool pathway? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9644287/NHS-millions-for-controversial-care-pathway.html. Or perhaps this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/nhs/10387187/NHS-faces-bankruptcy-over-ageing-population.html
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France is top industrial espionage country
This article articulates many points on France's recent espionage history.
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I don't blame him for turning off wireless...
I don't really like the Republican party any more. They're running the country into the ground. But listening to how hateful the liberals are, and how they wish death to their political opponents (see list below), I can't really support them either. I don't want to be a member of the party of hate. So for now I'll be an independent.
That being said, if even a few of the below links are accurate, wouldn't you protect yourself from the left, who profess to want their political opponents to die?
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyharnden/9757837/
http://www.examiner.com/article/liberal-talker-mike-malloy-says-he-wants-gop-literally-dead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItcqrHLZGDg&feature=player_embedded#!
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Re:Long distance travel
Actually, someone's now suggesting the "Roman" roads actually predated the Romans. I'd be tempted to dismiss this as another wild theory in search of fame, but it fits with the general trend in history: after centuries of belief in the superiority of a few "great civilisations", we are increasingly realising that there were no true "dark ages", and that civilisation has always progressed. Hell, some of the greatest monumental engineering and architecture came out in the Middle Ages, and they dubbed it "Gothic", suggesting it was barbaric and uncivilised when it was structurally superior to the relatively unsophisticated Classical styl of pillars and basic arches.
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Re:Could root cause be the UK's immigration system
You hear wrongly.
http://euobserver.com/social/121778
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10361971/Britain-admits-it-has-no-figures-on-EU-welfare-tourist-numbers.htmlUnproductive immigrants are largely a myth. People who can work themselves up enough to emigrate are not usually the sort of people to shy away from work. Statistically, an immigrant is more likely to be in work than a UK native, and is likely to make greater net payments to the state (paying taxes versus using government services) than a native.
Immigration is a knee-jerk right-wing bugbear. You can argue, if you like, that they're taking our jobs. But you can't also argue that they're all work-shy scroungers. Can't both be true.
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Re:Rose-tinted view indeed
And as a consequence....
Patients facing eight-hour waits in ambulances outside A&E departments
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Re:Rose-tinted view indeed
Actually, if you follow international news at all, there has been a strong Conservative/Tory assault on the NHS for several years now.
If you follow the news you realize that Labour might have some involvement since they ran the government for so long.
Labour must bear the blame for the shameful decline of the NHS
- Up to 1,200 patients died unnecessarily because of appalling care
- Labour's obsession with targets and box ticking blamed for scandal
- Patients were 'routinely neglected' at hospital
- Report calls for FOURTH investigation into scandalI'm sure there is plenty more to find.
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More signs of strain on NHS
NHS has clearly been under pressure for quite some time. Strange that it rarely comes up in discussion.
Complaints about doctors 'double in five years'
Crackdown on migrants rights to NHS and council homes
Patients facing eight-hour waits in ambulances outside A&E departments
Watchdog issues NHS with financial health warning
Why do the UK's cancer survival rates still lag behind the rest of Europe?
Thousands of NHS operations cancelled because of blunders as complaints about standard of treatment rise
The frightening truth: NHS-managers are incentivized to ignore problems
Hungry, thirsty, unwashed: NHS treatment of the elderly condemned
Dying for a drink: Over 12,000 killed by dehydration in hospitals every yearLabour must bear the blame for the shameful decline of the NHS
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More signs of strain on NHS
NHS has clearly been under pressure for quite some time. Strange that it rarely comes up in discussion.
Complaints about doctors 'double in five years'
Crackdown on migrants rights to NHS and council homes
Patients facing eight-hour waits in ambulances outside A&E departments
Watchdog issues NHS with financial health warning
Why do the UK's cancer survival rates still lag behind the rest of Europe?
Thousands of NHS operations cancelled because of blunders as complaints about standard of treatment rise
The frightening truth: NHS-managers are incentivized to ignore problems
Hungry, thirsty, unwashed: NHS treatment of the elderly condemned
Dying for a drink: Over 12,000 killed by dehydration in hospitals every yearLabour must bear the blame for the shameful decline of the NHS
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More signs of strain on NHS
NHS has clearly been under pressure for quite some time. Strange that it rarely comes up in discussion.
Complaints about doctors 'double in five years'
Crackdown on migrants rights to NHS and council homes
Patients facing eight-hour waits in ambulances outside A&E departments
Watchdog issues NHS with financial health warning
Why do the UK's cancer survival rates still lag behind the rest of Europe?
Thousands of NHS operations cancelled because of blunders as complaints about standard of treatment rise
The frightening truth: NHS-managers are incentivized to ignore problems
Hungry, thirsty, unwashed: NHS treatment of the elderly condemned
Dying for a drink: Over 12,000 killed by dehydration in hospitals every yearLabour must bear the blame for the shameful decline of the NHS
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More signs of strain on NHS
NHS has clearly been under pressure for quite some time. Strange that it rarely comes up in discussion.
Complaints about doctors 'double in five years'
Crackdown on migrants rights to NHS and council homes
Patients facing eight-hour waits in ambulances outside A&E departments
Watchdog issues NHS with financial health warning
Why do the UK's cancer survival rates still lag behind the rest of Europe?
Thousands of NHS operations cancelled because of blunders as complaints about standard of treatment rise
The frightening truth: NHS-managers are incentivized to ignore problems
Hungry, thirsty, unwashed: NHS treatment of the elderly condemned
Dying for a drink: Over 12,000 killed by dehydration in hospitals every yearLabour must bear the blame for the shameful decline of the NHS
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More signs of strain on NHS
NHS has clearly been under pressure for quite some time. Strange that it rarely comes up in discussion.
Complaints about doctors 'double in five years'
Crackdown on migrants rights to NHS and council homes
Patients facing eight-hour waits in ambulances outside A&E departments
Watchdog issues NHS with financial health warning
Why do the UK's cancer survival rates still lag behind the rest of Europe?
Thousands of NHS operations cancelled because of blunders as complaints about standard of treatment rise
The frightening truth: NHS-managers are incentivized to ignore problems
Hungry, thirsty, unwashed: NHS treatment of the elderly condemned
Dying for a drink: Over 12,000 killed by dehydration in hospitals every yearLabour must bear the blame for the shameful decline of the NHS
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Re:Thank goodness
Or, to put it more cynically, US health insurance is a great deal, right up until the point where you need to make a claim.
Tell it to the people waiting in ambulances, dying of thirst, and the elderly. (And that is barely scratching the surface.)
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Re:Thank goodnessNo, not one scandal from one hospital, multiple trusts under investigation and around 3,000 needless deaths that we know about. 3,000! FYI, under investigation:
Basildon and Thurrock University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust Blackpool Teaching Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust Buckinghamshire Healthcare NHS Trust Burton Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust Colchester Hospital University NHS Foundation Trust The Dudley Group NHS Foundation Trust East Lancashire Hospitals NHS Trust George Eliot Hospital NHS Trust Medway NHS Foundation Trust North Cumbria University Hospitals NHS Trust Northern Lincolnshire and Goole Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust Sherwood Forest Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust Tameside Hospital NHS Foundation Trust United Lincolnshire Hospitals NHS Trust
Why be a fanboy about the NHS? It's crap. The reason it never gets better is because any politician who suggests it's too large and unwieldy gets flayed alive.
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Re:How does it work?
that's what I thought!
Please, people, STOP recommending Tor! Here's a bit of forgotten history: Silk Road operated on the Tor network, it was TRACED then TAKEN DOWN by the Met's National Crime Agency.
Also, please bear in mind that the Tor protocol was developed by the US NAVY. If you do decide to use Tor consider it INSECURE.
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Re:Doulbe Standard
How is exposing 2 cases of illegal invasion of privacy a double standard?
Cameron is probably more upset about the Guardian's theft of Britain's NOC list and its distribution of that list overseas. This exact situation is the subject of a few James Bond and Mission Impossible movies, showing that Hollywood considers it important enough to send a super-spy with a license to kill people to stop it from happening.
Might the Guardian have malicious intent or connections to hostile parties? Try dissing the Muslim Brotherhood in their comments. Post the Hamas charter. Your comment will be deleted and you will be banned. There is more going on there than journalism and whistleblowing.
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Re:DOUBLEPLUS
Do you have any thoughts on these incidents?
Times Square car bomb: Pakistani Taliban 'claims responsibility'
With Nidal Hasan bombshell, time to call Fort Hood shooting a terror attack?
I just thought I would ask since I had them handy. I'm pretty sure I could find more if I had to.
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More anti-Apple news from /. What about Google?
Since
/. staff, we're talking about timothy and Soulskill who seem to be working for Google and not /., don't want to cover objectively, here's some real news.SEC clears Apple's tax strategy... all that "Holy grail of tax avoidance" talk was bullshit and lies.
Let's look at who the real evil company is:
‘Dutch sandwich’ grows as Google shifts €8.8bn to Bermuda
Ahh, so that's where the money is.
Concern about Irish tax reflects disquiet about Google
or this:
But you won't see this on
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Re:More info
Since 2000, we have seen serious major acts of terrorism in this country typically once or twice a year.â
Really? I don't recall one or two major acts of terrorism a year since 2000. In fact I only recall one (7/7), and maybe you could count the bungled attempt to bomb an airport but those guys were laughably dumb. So what are the other 20 odd major acts of terrorism that I somehow slept through?
( Note to moderators: The question was asked, I'm answering it. )
Here is a starter for you. I'm quite sure there are more out there since this was just a hasty search. When I started this post I was assuming that plots would count as "acts," but it looks like the number goes well over anyway between the various Islamists and the Real IRA. (As this was done in haste I may have posted something redundant, but it really doesn't alter the outcome much. A more careful search would no doubt turn up more.)
London terror bomb plot: the four terrorists
Four men pleaded guilty to plotting a Christmas bomb attack on the London Stock Exchange and causing a 'Mumbai-style' atrocity.
Fertiliser bomb plot: The story
Five men have been convicted of plotting to build a bomb which police say could have killed hundreds of British people. The men were caught after police and MI5 launched a massive surveillance operation.
British terrorists conspired in bombs plot - security officials
Counter-terrorism officials said last night they believe British terrorists who are still at large were involved in the conspiracy to launch car bomb attacks on London and Glasgow.
Details emerged as it became clear that five of the suspects under arrest are doctors working and training in the NHS, and one is a doctor working in Australia where he was arrested last night.Airline terror trial: The bomb plot to kill 10,000 people
Shasta Khan and her husband also had beheading videos, bomb-making guides and bleach at their home
Police found the terror-related material after being called to a domestic dispute at their house
A satnav showed they had been on multiple trips to Jewish populated areas looking for targetsBritish soldier hacked to death in suspected Islamist attack
A British soldier was hacked to death by two men shouting Islamic slogans in a south London street on Wednesday, in what the government said appeared to be a terrorist attack.
A dramatic clip filmed by an onlooker just minutes after the killing showed a man with hands covered in blood, brandishing a bloodied meat cleaver and a knife. "We swear by almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you. The only reason we have done this is because Muslims are dying every day," the black man in his 20s or 30s, wearing a wool jacket and jeans
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Re:More info
Since 2000, we have seen serious major acts of terrorism in this country typically once or twice a year.â
Really? I don't recall one or two major acts of terrorism a year since 2000. In fact I only recall one (7/7), and maybe you could count the bungled attempt to bomb an airport but those guys were laughably dumb. So what are the other 20 odd major acts of terrorism that I somehow slept through?
( Note to moderators: The question was asked, I'm answering it. )
Here is a starter for you. I'm quite sure there are more out there since this was just a hasty search. When I started this post I was assuming that plots would count as "acts," but it looks like the number goes well over anyway between the various Islamists and the Real IRA. (As this was done in haste I may have posted something redundant, but it really doesn't alter the outcome much. A more careful search would no doubt turn up more.)
London terror bomb plot: the four terrorists
Four men pleaded guilty to plotting a Christmas bomb attack on the London Stock Exchange and causing a 'Mumbai-style' atrocity.
Fertiliser bomb plot: The story
Five men have been convicted of plotting to build a bomb which police say could have killed hundreds of British people. The men were caught after police and MI5 launched a massive surveillance operation.
British terrorists conspired in bombs plot - security officials
Counter-terrorism officials said last night they believe British terrorists who are still at large were involved in the conspiracy to launch car bomb attacks on London and Glasgow.
Details emerged as it became clear that five of the suspects under arrest are doctors working and training in the NHS, and one is a doctor working in Australia where he was arrested last night.Airline terror trial: The bomb plot to kill 10,000 people
Shasta Khan and her husband also had beheading videos, bomb-making guides and bleach at their home
Police found the terror-related material after being called to a domestic dispute at their house
A satnav showed they had been on multiple trips to Jewish populated areas looking for targetsBritish soldier hacked to death in suspected Islamist attack
A British soldier was hacked to death by two men shouting Islamic slogans in a south London street on Wednesday, in what the government said appeared to be a terrorist attack.
A dramatic clip filmed by an onlooker just minutes after the killing showed a man with hands covered in blood, brandishing a bloodied meat cleaver and a knife. "We swear by almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you. The only reason we have done this is because Muslims are dying every day," the black man in his 20s or 30s, wearing a wool jacket and jeans
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Re:DOUBLEPLUS
Since you keep making these claims, you must have some evidence. Can you present it? Or is this just a crank theory of yours?
Were the 7/7 London attacks "fake" too? Including the 52 dead bodies?
Are the convictions that the police are getting "fake" too?
London terror bomb plot: the four terrorists
Four men pleaded guilty to plotting a Christmas bomb attack on the London Stock Exchange and causing a 'Mumbai-style' atrocity.
Fertiliser bomb plot: The story
Five men have been convicted of plotting to build a bomb which police say could have killed hundreds of British people. The men were caught after police and MI5 launched a massive surveillance operation.
Since you're Canadian, perhaps you could comment on this plot. Was it "fake" too?
Canada jails Toronto truck bomb plotter Zakaria Amara
One of the key figures in a conspiracy to set off three truck bombs in Canada has been sentenced to life imprisonment. Zakaria Amara, 24, pleaded guilty in October to co-leading the Islamist militant group dubbed the Toronto 18. The group's targets included the city's stock exchange and a military base.
These sorts of attacks are consistent with the announced intention of terrorist groups around the world. I think you need to present some evidence rather than simply make proclamations.
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More info
This was a somewhat more exciting series of arrests than usual.
Police shoot at car in suspected terror raids
Armed police shot at the tyres of a car to stop two suspected terrorists during a dramatic series of raids to foil an alleged plot to attack the UK.
Officers fired special Hatton rounds – large shotgun ammunition designed to burst tyres or breach doors – to force the vehicle over in east London on Sunday evening. Witnesses also reported seeing police ram the back of the car before it was finally brought to a halt while a helicopter hovered overhead. In simultaneous arrests, armed officers swooped on a man in the street in west London while a fourth man was arrested at a flat south east of the city. A large number of armed officers were used because it was feared the men had access to weapons and were planning a suspected Islamist terror attack, the Daily Telegraph understands.
The head of MI5 is concerned about the diminishing margin of advantage they have to detect such things in the face of a continuing threat.
Speaking at the Royal United Services Institute in London, Mr Parker pointed out the statistics of the threat from terrorism faced by the UK. The “plain facts”, he said, were that “from 11 September 2001 to the end of March this year, 330 people were convicted of terrorism related- offences in Britain In the first few months of this year, there were four major trials related to terrorist plots. Since 2000, we have seen serious major acts of terrorism in this country typically once or twice a year.”
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Re:you really want to know what obamacare is?
For some reason people want health care that won't bankrupt them. They look at what citizens of other industrialized nations get and want the same.
You mean eight hour waits in ambulances to game national healthcare system metrics, going to the US for treatment to avoid waits, and crackdowns on treatment for immigrants? Americans don't want the first, the second is redundant, and Obamacare will probably rule out the third.
You dont know much about the UK.
I wasn't asking.
If you did, you wouldn't rely on the Daily Tele(graph) for accurate information.
In the UK, they wont send you home to die simply because your employer doesn't have insurance, or enough insurance. This is what people in the US want. Basic care in the UK or Australia isn't glamorous, but it's far cheaper than the most basic care in the US. In fact top hospital cover in Australia is far cheaper than the most basic care in the US.
People want to know they can go to a hospital with serious problem and not have to worry if they have the cash to pay for it. This is the assurance you have in Canada, the UK or Australia.
Also, you'll find the vast majority of people travelling overseas (out of the country) will be for elective surgery which is usually not covered or not covered completely and optional.
Finally, am I the only one who sees the notion of your employer providing health care akin to indentured servitude? Preventing you from changing employers at will or even taking time off (a sabbatical)? -
Re:you really want to know what obamacare is?
For some reason people want health care that won't bankrupt them. They look at what citizens of other industrialized nations get and want the same.
You mean eight hour waits in ambulances to game national healthcare system metrics, going to the US for treatment to avoid waits, and crackdowns on treatment for immigrants? Americans don't want the first, the second is redundant, and Obamacare will probably rule out the third.
You dont know much about the UK.
I wasn't asking.
If you did, you wouldn't rely on the Daily Tele(graph) for accurate information.
In the UK, they wont send you home to die simply because your employer doesn't have insurance, or enough insurance. This is what people in the US want. Basic care in the UK or Australia isn't glamorous, but it's far cheaper than the most basic care in the US. In fact top hospital cover in Australia is far cheaper than the most basic care in the US.
People want to know they can go to a hospital with serious problem and not have to worry if they have the cash to pay for it. This is the assurance you have in Canada, the UK or Australia.
Also, you'll find the vast majority of people travelling overseas (out of the country) will be for elective surgery which is usually not covered or not covered completely and optional.
Finally, am I the only one who sees the notion of your employer providing health care akin to indentured servitude? Preventing you from changing employers at will or even taking time off (a sabbatical)? -
Re:you really want to know what obamacare is?
For some reason people want health care that won't bankrupt them. They look at what citizens of other industrialized nations get and want the same.
You mean eight hour waits in ambulances to game national healthcare system metrics, going to the US for treatment to avoid waits, and crackdowns on treatment for immigrants? Americans don't want the first, the second is redundant, and Obamacare will probably rule out the third.
Of course in the UK you're free to engage companies like BUPA to give you private medical care.
The average person in the UK pays $3,433 per year of medical care. The average person in the US pays $8,233
That leaves plenty of money for a £170 pcm ($3600/year) "Comprehensive plan" with BUPA. With a $800 "deducatble" that drops to $2300/year, if you wish.
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Re:you really want to know what obamacare is?
For some reason people want health care that won't bankrupt them. They look at what citizens of other industrialized nations get and want the same.
You mean eight hour waits in ambulances to game national healthcare system metrics, going to the US for treatment to avoid waits, and crackdowns on treatment for immigrants? Americans don't want the first, the second is redundant, and Obamacare will probably rule out the third.
Of course in the UK you're free to engage companies like BUPA to give you private medical care.
The average person in the UK pays $3,433 per year of medical care. The average person in the US pays $8,233
That leaves plenty of money for a £170 pcm ($3600/year) "Comprehensive plan" with BUPA. With a $800 "deducatble" that drops to $2300/year, if you wish.
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Re:you really want to know what obamacare is?
For some reason people want health care that won't bankrupt them. They look at what citizens of other industrialized nations get and want the same.
You mean eight hour waits in ambulances to game national healthcare system metrics, going to the US for treatment to avoid waits, and crackdowns on treatment for immigrants? Americans don't want the first, the second is redundant, and Obamacare will probably rule out the third.