Domain: theyrule.net
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Re:The Brookings Institute...
You mean they once had credibility?
Take a look at who is on this "brookings institute" board, as well as on other think-tank boards, and boards of major corporations. Now think about what their motives might be...
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Re:What do you mean by "can"?
Speaking of foiling NSA and other of the worlds shadowy sky organizations shenanigans, there are some great ideas floating about like this one posted a few NSA stories back by Anachragnome: "The NSA has made it clear that making connections--following the metadata--is often enough to get an investigation started. So why not do the same thing? Turn the whole thing around? Start focusing on their networks."
A sort of They Rule type network connection analysis on lists of people involved, start tallying connections and contacts build dossiers and trust-worthiness - combined with dead man switches for websites and professionally shunning anyone/organizations that have worked to subvert the security of the internet in favor of spying and undermining the social contract of the internet.
In related news Reddit co-founder was exposed as wanting to sign up and use Reddit/his reputation as a mouthpiece/research partner for Stratfor. Stratfor turned him down they already had people from the social networking world working for them apparently. Given Slashdot appears to give regular airtime to well known warmongering trolls, will anyone be surprised if most sites like Slashdot are already on the payroll...
The truth, it's just a leak away, it's just a leak awaaay....
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Re:I'm actually suprised it's that many
It boils down to a group of about 500 people.
Enjoy the map. The CEO of one corporation is on the board of directors for their friends' corporations who are on the board at their own...
Oh right.. lets keep pretending.
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Re:What's the point?
actually, i would agree that the previous story about palin's emails was a troll, since it stated that you would have to travel to alaska to purchase a 24k pg. hard copy. but my story is not trolling anything. i think it would be awesome if you saw the other tools available by the group that's putting out her emails. Poligraft attempts to parse any news story, recognize famous names and companies, and then offer background information on their connection. kinda neat, i think.
i thought these were interesting tools based on my enjoyment of this crazy site that shows a filtered list of companies and who is on their boards (of directors, not bbs), allowing you to spider out to other boards they serve on: theyrule.net -
brutal isn't it ..
no flame bait either
.. but just as most always ..
i will most likely receive the flame bait .. troll label .. written off as paranoid etc.
that was the whole idea ..
"they" the ruling class have known for a long time that the vast majority of people will simply not believe that it could happen .. it's called denial .. their most reliable and important weapon ..
modern democracies .. such as america have been useful and necessary distractions .. to give the lower classes the illusion that they have some power over the system .. while their plans could unfold ..
if you still believe the official story of 9/11 events .. time to think again ..
google "false flag operations"
this really has been a private planet since the military was outsourced to the private sector read:the ruling class .. after the first world war .. the real beginning of the modern phase of the plan .. as it was the only realistic option for the ruling class after the industrial revolution .. that or lose their control of the planet .. and subjugation to the lower classes .. ie. being just like everyone else .. no privileges .. no power over others (the real aphrodisiac by the way)
they almost lost the war in the sixties with a relatively open and FREE press (their only real achilles heel) but they were able to gain control of the mass media .. game over .. end of story ..
there have been a lot of canaries in the mine .. but the majority have refused to take them seriously .. just as expected ..
just a few interesting links ..
once you really start looking .. you will be overwhelmed with information .. another thing working in their favor ..
this is a good place to begin as it was a modern pivotal event .. even if it appears a little insignificant ..
http://www.mediatransparency.org/story.php?storyID=21
most people thing the Nazis lost the war .. think again .. just a temporary setback ..
http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/noon.html
and a few more to get you started ..
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=73328
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/aliensindenver.htm
http://www.trufax.org/
http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/archive/users/warneke-brett/SmartDust/
http://www.freezone.org/mc/swfqw.htm
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/ST/ST.html
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/raisethefist/
http://www.alpha-education.co.uk/
this one is even fun ..
http://www.theyrule.net/
you can find more "truthful" information out there than you probably want to know .. as "they" do not believe that it posses a t -
Re:Negative cumulative shareholder value added
trace board memberships here: http://www.theyrule.net/2004/tr2.php
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Re: Self-promotion
Dude, that pic is not much better.
I see nothing wrong with some self-promotion, and if ZDnet lets you blog for them then ZDnet is publishing it. Companies don't say things, people do. People will always bag on you but they're not usually doing anything but complaining anyways.
I also think the topic area's very interesting and too often people just think there's this random crowd out there that's doing things in the Valley when really there are a lot more connections than are public. There's also the key factor of money and talent dedicated to ideas that people might have had elsewhere but can't develop.
The only other project that I've seen that looks at this is the old They Rule project (momentarily resurected in SVG as Fat Cats). -
Our Corporate Overlords - www.theyrule.net
This seems like a good opportunity to mention "They Rule" located here:
They Rule
Its a neat (flash based sadly) tool allowing you to identify which heads of various corporations are also heads of other corporations and see the web of power and influence they exert. I am sure these individuals don't think of themselves as the defacto government, but I think they are rapidly becoming it.
The core evil to my mind, the main mistake, was in allowing a corporation to have legal status as a type of individual - a "corporate entity" as such. In this role it ends up having more rights than a citizen, and that makes it superior to a citizen in some sense. -
Re:you've revealed your problemThe ant is unaware of the larger patterns that the human can observe - unfortunately, too few humans can observe the ever more complex patterns. You remind me of the dullard corporate attorney I once ran into that didn't know the SEC used to publish a Directory of Interlocking Directorships (during the period we met).
Strangely, they no longer publish it...I wonder why? But for another interlocking directors site.
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Re:Who owns who?
http://www.theyrule.net/
A little outdated, but a good reference, nonetheless. -
Re:Who's on what board?
It's been done, a long time ago. The flash is aging now, but the data and idea are as strong as ever.
http://www.theyrule.net/
Josh On is the man! -
Re:George Bush and your cohorts...Oh yes - I remember that site (They Rule).
I also just finished watching "The Corporation." Highly recommended, if you haven't already seen it.
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Re:Blog Bashin' FoolsSeems like part of the author's message is pleading for a return to consumers who cannot easily defend themselves against against corporate swindliers and incompetence... and right-wingers. Are we surprised?
Yes, paid shills are an odious problem. But why not simply call them that? Could the author himself be a shill? One has to wonder.No target is too mighty, or too obscure,
Its great being both mighty and obscure, isn't it? Rich crooks are under attack by concerned citizens and consumers; Now that small-fry crooks have joined the fray, the blogosphere must be litigated into oblivion?? -
Re:It's called greedIf this is so then why do CEOs get paid millions for leaving a company that they drove into the ground? I'll tell you why, and it has little to do with the free market.
Check out this page to see how interrelated different companies can be and how many boards one person may sit on. Its more about back scratching and looking out for yourself and your rich buddies than it is about so-called free market forces.
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Re:free Puff Piece for Microsoft? Here?In our modern times, every corporation wants to pretend they're virtuous. If you were a wolf, wouldn't you want sheep's clothing? All the better to kill the innocents... But that Slashdot would help Microsoft gets its puff piece out, this should not be a surprise.
Why? Because Slashdot is owned by a major media corporation, so it's no sheep either.
What would that matter? Well, when you consider that virtually all major US corporations are linked up into a large cartel via what's called "interlocking directorships" (see http://theyrule.net/ in a real sense Slashdot is just a friendly face put on the corporate monolith that is the US power structure.
But that power structure and its vassals are wolves, not sheep.
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Haha nice try, but we know there is.
By now everyone knows there are predator groups. You can try to deny the fact but hey go to this website and see for yourself who runs America --> http://www.theyrule.net/
The country is run by networks. You are in networks, your peer group, your inner circle, your friends and family, the people you do business with, this is your network, each person may be involved with many networks. The corporate world also has networks. Most of the corporate networks at this time are for outsourcing, and corporate networks are basically CEOs who hop from one corporation to another, or upper level management who hop from one job to the next, this mobile management network is the corporate elite network that the above poster talks about. Some CEOs are in control of 4-5 different corporations on all sorts of boards and with connections into politics.
You are right we can't go back, but we can shape and design the future to our benefit. -
Re:Can't they leave ANYTHING alone?
http://www.theyrule.net/
It's a little out of date, but certainly gets the point across. -
Re:In other news...I used to consider myself a republican; now I do not. The republican and the democratic party [yes - singular] has been taken over by corporations.
In the words of Mussolini:
Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.Here is an interesting little page that diagrams the links between all of these people.
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Re:That doesn't mean they know what to do with it.They can't interpret it all because there is just too much of it.
They can't interpret it all because there are no technologies currently available to do so. (BTW - A database/datamart is not "a technology", for this discussion, it's just a place to hold information.)
Data-mining and data-visualization technologies that can handle a petabyte of data do not yet exist in the business world. I guarantee you that advanced research projects are tackling just such problems, and advancing the state of the arts. It won't be long before useful nuggets of information can be gleaned from these vast seas of numbers.
An advanced relationship-visualization tool can be found on the web at - TheyRule.net
Another one can be found at - Map of the MarketIt's only a matter of time before all that data will yield useful clues to Total World Domination(tm). And who better than WalMart to exploit these clues to subdue the dominant world power, and move its base of wealth to a communist, human-rights-ignorant county, leaving a vast wasteland of low-wage, no-benefits, tax-roll-supported service-oriented jobs in its wake?
God Bless (what's left of) the USA - Made in China
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Orkut Zeitgeist?What would be extremely interesting would be, in a years time, a "zeitgeist" of Orkut, in graphical (maybe even Flash) form, that shows the spread of the network from the initial 12,000.
A similar concept has already been done for the corporate pigopolists at They Rule - Flash required, but it's worth it.
My prediction - that ALL of the branches of the social Orkut network bend back on themselves to focus on a single individual being that is the source and underpinning of all human thought , culture and society on this planet - Kevin Bacon -
Re:Problem is liability.Corporations per se are not the issue.
The issue is that in Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific R. Co., 118 U. S. 394 (1886), the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that corporations were persons entitled to protection under the 14th Ammendment to the U.S. Constitution, a decsion regarding which Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas later said, "There was no history, logic, or reason given to support that view."
Before this decsion things were decidedly different. An excerpt from Kalle Lasn's excellent article on the subject USA(TM) proves informative:
Early American charters were created literally by the people, for the people as a legal convenience. Corporations were "artificial, invisible, intangible," mere financial tools. They were chartered by individual states, not the federal government, which meant they could be kept under close local scrutiny. They were automatically dissolved if they engaged in activities that violated their charter. Limits were placed on how big and powerful companies could become. Even railroad magnate J. P. Morgan, the consummate capitalist, understood that corporations must never become so big that they "inhibit freedom to the point where efficiency [is] endangered."
The two hundred or so corporations operating in the US by the year 1800 were each kept on fairly short leashes. They weren't allowed to participate in the political process. They couldn't buy stock in other corporations. And if one of them acted improperly, the consequences were severe. In 1832, President Andrew Jackson vetoed a motion to extend the charter of the corrupt and tyrannical Second Bank of the United States, and was widely applauded for doing so. That same year the state of Pennsylvania revoked the charters of ten banks for operating contrary to the public interest. Even the enormous industry trusts, formed to protect member corporations from external competitors and provide barriers to entry, eventually proved no match for the state. By the mid-1800s, antitrust legislation was widely in place.
Furthermore, consider the information given on They Rule and Open Secrets. This information clearly points to a unhealthy shift towards plutocracy.
The original purpose of corporations was exactly as you describe, to spread the risk of an enterprise among multiple investors such that a failure wouldn't ruin them. Since Santa Clara, corporations have grown to the point where they are almost completely unaccountable to the people. A corporation is not a human person, so it is not subject to Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. Yet, alarmingly, as corporate power has grown in the last century so has their collective control over the necessities of Maslow's Hierarchy for the rest of us.
In conclusion, while I agree that a legal and financial fiction very much like what we call a corporation is necessary for the continued economic health of the United States, I dispute that what we call a corporation today was the intent of the framers or is defensible by any measure other than the economic benefit to the corporate "person" itself. -
Media Frenzy?
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The ties of Microsoft with HP
on an executive level can be seen quite clearly when looking at this page and choosing "Load Map" and "Microsoft and HP shake hands".
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Re:Why do you care if they spy on you
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Re:Does it bother anyone...
If you want to know more about the connections of the most powerful people to various companies you should look at the project They rule.
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Re:bushy promotion
That could be true, except for the fact that what it comes down to is the immoral, selfish, greedy people are the ones that end up at the top, and we end up with very few large company's actually existing. These large company's (surprise, surprise) seem to base all judgements on financial gain, including such things as defrauding others.
The sad thing is when people all talk about how horrible it is, such as nike with their child/slave labour, yet the next day these people are out there loading up on Nike's and Mcdonalds(another one of those terrible countries).
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Re:Disney needs a boycott
TheyRule.net does a good job of showing who's in charge of what. It's scary...
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Think RDF
RDF - the XML format for metadata - essentially describes relationships between resources and is a superset of the problem area you describe. I had a cursory look to see if people had taken the obvious step of using diagram tools to edit rdf and yes they have:
Using DIA and GraMToR and GraphViz and IsaViz and lots lots more
You might also be interested in They Rule which draws some interesting social networks!
While this is all standard 2d editing (I think the 3d editing thing is nonsense btw, unless you actually have a 3d coordinate system then you are actually describing a 2d network diagram) there are other visualisation options which may be interesting. Mindmapping tools allow you to navigate the network of concepts may be interesting as are star trees. Both provide a focussed view on a small part of a much larger network with some context information to help you choose how to navigate. They are more useful for display than authoring.
Hope something in here is useful
-Baz
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corporate network site
that art site that was linked to links to this very intresting site www.theyrule.net it shows the links between board members in large corporations. check out the hp microsoft connection
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Re:Enron?According to this site (Flash 5 needed), Bill Gates is connected to Enron the following way:
- Bill Gates basically owns Microsoft
- which deals with Raymond V. Gilmartin
- who also deals with Merck
- which deals with Heidi Miller
- who also deals with Bank One Corp.
- which deals with John h. Bryan
- who deals with General Motors
- which deals with George M.C. Fisher
- who deals with AT&T
- which deals with Gwendolyn S. King
- who deals with Lockheed Martin
- which deals with Frank Savage
- who deals with Enron
Of course, there could be a shorter path in the "Bill Gates rules them all"" map but at least this shows Enron within a 6-degree direct relationship with Microsoft...
This is either not significant or just horrible... - Bill Gates basically owns Microsoft
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Re:No UCITA; meaningless
For clarification, I've attached this flowchart [160.79.249.139] which demonstrates the relationship between the corporations of America (Adobe, Sony, the RIAA, the WTO, etc.) and the people of America. The people are represented at the bottom; the Corporations at the top.
Hmm, try something like this instead, maybe? (Warning, contains icky Flash!)