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Comments · 251
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Re:I run several Windows ClustersFour Hours! what took them so long?
They got the cables crossed. (I'm referencing the Foxtrot comic, 5th one down, but didn't want to hotlink...)
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Re:speed
Bastoe prison in Norway is more "picturesque":
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Re:Don't all search engines do this?
If you can run Java ME apps and display Chinese characters it should run fine, but I've only tested it on my own phones (Nokia 6300 & 2610) so I can't guarantee anything. You might also want to try out http://folk.uio.no/einarro/Chinese/mphrasier.html, which is a similar program by someone else that seems to be more advanced than my own one - I can't get it to run on my phone, but it might work on yours.
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Re:Let the market decide
Interesting, I just finished reading that book this morning before seeing your post. For those who'd like version to read offline, here is a pdf version.
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Re:Is this really the answer?
Actually I meant 40:97 bits 0-3.
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Re:which kernel option to disable in menuconfig?
Nevermind. I was able to get rid of this vulnerability by compiling/running this as a normal user:
http://www.ping.uio.no/~mortehu/disable-vmsplice-if-exploitable.c
It worked fine on Ubuntu and Gentoo -
Making your system secure
Most likely this will not be needed by most here, but those who do not know how to re-compile (the kernel), here a solution:
1) See that gcc is installed
2) Download http://www.ping.uio.no/~mortehu/disable-vmsplice-if-exploitable.c
3) run `gcc disable-vmsplice-if-exploitable.c -o disable-vmsplice-if-exploitable`
4) run `./disable-vmsplice-if-exploitable` -
Re:yea but how do we disable it till its fixed?
I don't know how to disable it in the kernel configure, but I found this link from bugs.debian.org which actually works: http://www.ping.uio.no/~mortehu/disable-vmsplice-if-exploitable.c
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Live patch available from Debian
FYI, there's a live patch available as a link[1] in the Debian bug tracker which modifies the exploit to patch the vmsplice() call with a RET as the first instruction. Run it at boot and you'll be fine, unless an attacker can jump to the next instruction instead...
[1] http://www.ping.uio.no/~mortehu/disable-vmsplice-if-exploitable.c -
Re:No!4 supergroups? Wait, did Journey break up? Who stopped believing! Toni Soprano?
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No!
4 supergroups? Wait, did Journey break up? Who stopped believing!
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Re:And the debate continues
Given that the drilling process heats the ice cores as well as introducing fluid and forcing them through other chemical and physical changes it immediately makes any atmospheric measurements taken from them null and void. http://folk.uio.no/tomvs/esef/ESEF3VO2.htm
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Re:Distribution is irrellevant.I would like to point out that you started by saying that copyright does not cover distribution, but that you now say that it
/does/ cover distribution so long as it follows after copying. I disagree with the former, not so much with the latter (although that might also be technically wrong for all I know).
To quote para 2 of my country's copyright law (Get. It. Here.):2. Subject to the limitations laid down in this Act, copyright shall confer the exclusive
right to dispose of a literary, scientific or artistic work by producing permanent or temporary
copies thereof and by making it available to the public, be it in the original or an altered form,
in translation or adaptation, in another literary or artistic form, or by other technical means.
The work is made available to the public when
a) copies of the work are offered for sale, rental or lending, or otherwise distributed to the
public,
b) copies of the work are displayed publicly without the use of technical aids, or
c) the work is performed publicly.
As public performance is also included broadcasting or other transmission by wire or
wireless means to the public, hereunder when the work is made available in such a way that
the individual can choose the time and place of access to the work.
(my apologies if the formatting is off.)
The above seems to amply cover putting copyrighted works in a publicly accessible directory thereby making it available to the general public, by calling such activity "performing" and making it illegal.
Please note that the English translation of the law is not legally official. It should be more than good enough for a layman's debate though. Also note that the above isn't the full extent of Norwegian copyright law. It goes on to para 61. -
Re:Yup.
And for those of you who don't know, TGGWS is just BS. Start to finish, pure crap. Just about every scientist in it has said that they were misrepresented, the director is known for being a fabricator. It's the "Dinosaurs lived with adam and eve" version of science. Utter shit. And you are below contempt for spreading it. See:
http://flet.org/node/20
http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/about_bas/news/news_story.php?id=178
http://folk.uio.no/nathan/web/statement.html
http://www.royalsoc.ac.uk/news.asp?id=6089
http://environment.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,,2119695,00.html
http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/climate_change/article2368999.ece
and TONS of others. The data are misrepresented, words taken out of context etc etc. Wall to wall shit from someone with a vested interest in spreading FUD. I know some of you still don't think global climate change happens, and some of you think the earth is flat too, but the HUGE SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS is that the climate is changing, to some degree it's man made and we need to do something about it. -
Re:Heretics?
Oh? Really? Well, here are some responses then.
From New analysis counters claims that solar activity is linked to global warming:
The data shows that even though the sun's activity has been decreasing since 1985, global temperatures have continued to rise at an accelerating rate.
The solar hypothesis was championed publicly in March by the controversial Channel 4 documentary The Great Global Warming Swindle. [...] "The temperature record is simply not consistent with any of the solar forcings that people are talking about," said lead author Mike Lockwood at the Rutherford Appleton Laboratory in Oxfordshire.
"They changed direction in 1985, the climate did not
... [the temperature] increase should be slowing down but in fact it is speeding up." [...] Nir Shaviv, an astrophysicist at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and a proponent of the solar hypothesis, has tried to rescue the idea by invoking a time lag between changes in the sun and its effect on the Earth's climate. But Prof Lockwood dismissed this as "disingenuous"."Nobody has invoked that kind of lag before. It's only been invoked now as a way out," he said. Even if the lag were 50 years then he believes we would begin to see the rise in global temperatures slowing down.
When asked to comment on this later finding, the show's producer, Martin Durkin, refused.
A statement from the British Antarctic Survey says:
Much of the programme was based around a diagram, shown several times, that purported to be world temperature for the last 120 years. This showed a curve, labelled "NASA", extending to the year 2003. The curve was produced by NASA nearly twenty years ago. Although it showed data only until 1987, it had been stretched and relabelled to suggest it showed the temperature record to 2003. The resulting distortion excludes the significant warming that has occurred since 1987. Other figures similarly misrepresented the current state of knowledge, especially as regards the influence of the Sun on climate, and the strength of the recent climate warming
Further evidence is presented here that the show intentionally mislabelled and distorted data. In addition to the "NASA" distortion above (which the producer admitted was "a fluff") there are others:
Other graphs used in the film contained known errors, notably the graph of sunspot activity. Mr Durkin used data on solar cycle lengths which were first published in 1991 despite a corrected version being available - but again the corrected version would not have supported his argument. Mr Durkin also used a schematic graph of temperatures over the past 1,000 years that was at least 16 years old, which gave the impression that today's temperatures are cooler than during the medieval warm period. If he had used a more recent, and widely available, composite graph it would have shown average temperatures far exceed the past 1,000 years.
The 1991 data comes from Friis-Christensen who has tried, several times, to prove the solar theory, but each time the theories have been debunked. For example, the journal Eos noted that Friis-Christensen's 1991 theories were based on "incorrect handling of the physical data". Later work seems to suffer from the same problems. Regardless, Friis-Christensen released a statement noting his concerns with usage of data, stating:
We have concerns regarding the use of a graph featured in the documentary titled 'Temp & Solar Activity 400 Years'. Firstly, we ha
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Yes. Tragedy of the Anticommons
This is a well known phenomenon, referred to as the Tragedy of the Anticommons. Yochai Benkler describes how multiple patent holders delayed the development of radio until the U.S. government intervened:
By 1916, the ideal transmitter based on technology available at the time required licenses of patents held by Marconi, AT&T, General Electric (GE), and a few individuals. No licenses were in fact granted. The industry had reached stalemate. When the United States joined the war, however, the navy moved quickly to break the stalemate, effectively creating a compulsory cross-licensing scheme for war production . .
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Obligatory...
Obligatory...
http://folk.uio.no/hpv/linuxtoons/linux-detergent. jpg
And yes, it is a real photo! -
Re:that dilbert comic about OS's comes to mind:
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Re:And during the next elections...
Yeah... You have no idea how envious Norwegians get of people who make more than themselves, especially if it is not deserved. Not long ago there was a huge uproar over one of the politicians getting a personal trainer covered by her party. And socialism here isn't a fringe group, they pretty much _are_ the government. It's only the shade that differs.
Also note that we have a history of implementing pretty radical IT related legislature, like the data protection laws which puts great restrictions on what companies can keep of (especially unrelated) information, privacy, requirements on how studies are performed, notification when data is accessed, etc. -
Asinine
System and method for generating web sites in an arbitrary object framework
Abstract
A system and method for generating computer applications in an arbitrary object framework. The method separates content, form, and function of the computer application so that each may be accessed or modified separately. The method includes creating arbitrary objects, managing the arbitrary objects throughout their life cycle in an object library, and deploying the arbitrary objects in a design framework for use in complex computer applications.
This patent is from Oct 01 1999. XML was introduced in 1996, OOP has been around since 1965, I've had re-usuable code objects in TurboPascal, Basic, C++... yeah pretty much every decent language released in the last 15 years. So WTF?? How can one company say they own USING pre-existing technologies?
... oh yeah, it's for the interwebs! Funny that their patent is the exact time of the dot-com bubble. This smacks of "Hey, lets take something we already have and patent it for use on the net... we can make bank!".
I thought any patent based on prior art was invalid, regardless of where the "new" one is implemented, am I wrong?
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Re:The current law in Norway is pretty reasonable:
In case anybody is in need of an English translation of the current Norwegian copyright law: http://www.ub.uio.no/ujur/ulovdata/lov-19610512-0
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Re:Linux+ATI=No Go
And you are not entitled to watch a movie on your tv that you play from your computer? Windows has been doing that for 10 years.
http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=309
http://folk.uio.no/henger/htpc/ati-pal-tvout.jpg
Or even tuxracer (proprietary driver FREEZES my machine but I have to install it cause I want to use the tv)
If you google around you'll see many people that wanted to run linux on a machine that initially had windows installed, to curse at the ati incompetence. -
Re:Networks & ISP's
The Norwegian backbone (NIX) is operated by a non-profit organization.
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Yeah, dirt-easy...
You do that and you have no video, perhaps no 3d also
,https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.c
o m/drivers/linux/linux_8.33.6.html#183417or no xv on tv-out http://folk.uio.no/henger/htpc/ati-pal-tvout.jpg
http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=309
system FREEZES on 3d,
--locked-userpages={on|off}
Enable/disable locked user pages. Disable this option if the system
hangs when running fgl_glxgears.
User page lock is no longer available on AGP system now
The decision not to include the fglrx crapware is indeed the right one
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Re:This shouldn't be your first Rails review, ...Lighten up on the Ruby-specific buzzwords, please! "how to use models in migrations", "integration testing as a DSL", "great YAML tricks for use in fixtures", huh???? It's nice that the book taught you how to do those things, whatever they are, but maybe a review should relate these things to more normal (non-Ruby) programmers
Most of those _are_ 'normal' terms.
Models are a fundamental part of the MVC design pattern (which originated in 1979, so it isn't exactly a rails buzzword!), integration testing is part of general software testing, usually used in combination with unit testing, and YAML is a markup language (sort of). They aren't Ruby or Rails specific.
Don't assume you know all the 'normal' terms simply because you don't consider yourself a newby. You sound like one of those programers who think they know it all... boy are those a pain to work with. They're almost always the ones that know the least.
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Re:True of false?
I dunno.
This essay http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/free_for_all.peter_wayn er/13.html
falls well short of saying RMS is a Marxist. He prominently espouses Green Party candidates on his political notes page, and some Socialist ideas; hanging a "Marxist" label on the fellow seems and exercise in hanging a label.
My strictly personal take, having read bits and pieces of Marx, is that, like Ayn Rand, his ideas hold together well enough within the laboratory of his writings, but have had problematic implementations in history. Marx, in particluar (at the risk of getting tagged 'flamebait') partially cribbed some old ideas filed under "The Kingdom of Heaven" that really don't work unless consumed in their entirety. ;) -
Stallman...
is known for being a very unreasonable man in the sense that George Bernard Shaw used the word when he said, "The Reasonable man adapts to nature. The unreasonable man seeks to adapt nature to himself. Therefore it is only through the actions of unreasonable men that civilization advances." -Free For All http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/free_for_all.peter_way
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Re:"And Ode to GPLv2"
Personally, Linus's attitude to the GPLv3 has never made a lick of sense to me. He (and the others on the LKML who drew up that position paper) seemed downright Republican in their determinedness to misrepresent the opposing point of view, their reliance on statements which, on examination, seem increasingly bizarre ("... the FSF's attempts at drafting and re-drafting these provisions have shown them to be a nasty minefield which keeps ensnaring innocent and beneficial uses of encryption and DRM technologies
..." [emph. mine]), and their use of loaded language ("pick and choose soup" is a great way of criticizing freedom of choice when no other logical objection can be raised :-).
That's why I believe that this story, and the post you link to above, represent the first few of what The Meaning of Liff defines as glenties. I'll reproduce the definition below:
GLENTIES (pl.n.)
Series of small steps by which someone who has made a serious tactical error in a conversion or argument moves from complete disagreement to wholehearted agreement. -
Re:It's perhaps time people understood
Norway adheres to the Berne convention (or did last time I looked anyway) and if you take a picture of another person here, that person has a copyright on the picture. So does the person that took the picture, apparantly, but the person in the picture can veto any publication etc.
In Norwegian here:
http://lovdata.no/all/hl-19610512-002.html#45c
In English (but unoffical I expect):
http://www.ub.uio.no/ujur/ulovdata/lov-19610512-00 2-eng.pdf
(para 45c)
Of course, there is a lot of leeway for the media to use pictures that are in the public interest etc. even if the copyright holder might object, but the basic law is quite clear. -
It's a difference movie!Unless there's a whole lot more going on than the article says, based on what it's talking about, and the example images, it's nothing but a difference movie.
(you look at changes from one frame to the next, and make a movie of those changes).
There's nothing new about this -- scientists have been using it for years (if not decades) for instruments that they don't have enough data to fully calibrate (eg, those on spacecraft, where they might not be able to focus on fixed targets to calibrate it in its environment). It's also useful to tell when only small portions of the image are changing, or it's changing very slightly in relation to the whole image.
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Re:I thought Europe had better protections
Well, the thing is that whenever someone from the other side of the pond starts comparing the US with Europe they have a tendency to cherry-pick countries. If you're making comparisons don't pick the country that much of the rest of Europe considers as bad as the US.
Why not instead pick Norway as an example, just because I'm familiar with it. Probably has one of the most modern data protection laws around. http://www.jus.uio.no/iri/forskning/lib/papers/dp_ norway/dp_norway.html Neither was the iTunes thing really unusual.
Europe is not a single country, not even a federation. -
Re:Theo
Well OpenBSD only exists because deRaadt couldn't play nice with the NetBSD team. See section 18.3. His inability to keep a civil tongue in his head is legendary: that might be excused as charmingly idealistic in a 20 year old, but its embarassing as a balding rocker with a pony tail in a man pushing 40.
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Translation
Here is the record meteorite
METEORITE: This shining object was visible over great parts of North Troms and Finnmark Tuesday night.
PHOTO: Peter BruvoldSeven minutes later it crashed into North Troms
OLE-THOMAS STEIRO ANDERSEN Friday 9th of June, 10:30am
Updated 03:47am(Dagbladet.no): Reisadalen in North Troms was Tuesday night hit by an astronomic sensation. Short after 02:00am several Tromsø citizens observed heavy light flicker from an object on the night sky. The meteorite moved over the sky and left a trail of smoke before it hit a high barren plateau in Reisadalen in North Troms.
- I saw a flash like the one in a camera, but much more powerful. The object went in a line and down in the horizon, says farmer Peter Bruvold to Dagbladet.no. He guesses that there went about seven minutes before the enormous blast could be heard all over the area.
GROUND ZERO: The map shows the direction of the sound signals observed by NORSAR's station in Karasjok.
Illustration: NORSARIt was a reasonable powerful blast. The earth shook and the curtains waved. My first thought was that it must have been a dynamite explosion nearby. When I heard the sound of falling stones, I thought it was a avalanche of stones, says Wenche Offerdal to the newspaper Nordlys . She is one of the many Troms citizens who had their houses shaken Tuesday night.
Big pieces of stone have been shaken out of the cliff on the presumed ground zero. Many of the surrounding trees broke right off.
- International attention
The earthquake station in Karasjok registered both seismic and sonic waves from the crash. It is yet to early to say anything about the meteorites dimensions, but from the readings made so far astronomer Knut Jørgen Røed Ødegaard at Institute for Theoretical Astrophysics thinks that the stone could have weighted up to a ton. In that case it is over 10 times as big as the biggest meteorite ever observed in Norway. The old record is from 1904, when a 90 kilo meteorite hit Finnmark.- This is extremely exciting. You can imagine something this good, but when it happens it is unbelievable says Røed Ødegaard to Dagbladet.no.
- If it is as big as I think it can be, it will not last long before the world's press comes to North-Troms. This will create attention internationally, says Ødegaard.
There has been found 13 meteorites in Norway, last time in Gloppen municipality in Nordfjord in 2001. A meteorite contains stone or nickel and enters the earth's atmosphere with a speed of 100,000 km/h. The stone gets heated by air resistance, and when the surface vapourises, it gets visible as a powerful flashes.
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Re:Is this real?
Yes, it's real. The impact also showed up on seismic recorders http://www.astro.uio.no/ita/nyheter/ildkule06/ild
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Definition of Abilene
In case anyone was wondering...
ABILENE (adj.)
The Meaning of Liff .
Descriptive of the pleasing coolness on the reverse side of the pillow. -
Re:How did it get there?
2256 meters after 200,000,000 years gives a sinking speed of *11 microns per year*.
From this page, it says that the Snorre field is located approx 140km west of the coast. The ocean depth is at around 300-300m, but the reservoir is some 2500m down. It also says that the reservoir differs from most of the other fields in the North Sea in that the rock consists of fossil riverbeds from a time (triassic period) when the North Sea was dry land containing big rivers.
I'm guessing it doesn't really matter how much it has moved, since things were probably very different then anyways. -
You can use C++ libraries from OCaml
You may want to check out OCaml. You can use C++ libraries from it using something like SWIG (and the libraries of other languages too, using something like Pycaml for Python, and there's an interface for Perl too).
Here's a nice comparisong of a ray tracer written in C++ and one written in Ocaml.
And here are many more comparisons and information on why OCaml is so great. :)
Oh, by the way, OCaml is much safer than C++, infinitely more elegant, faster to develop in and more readable. -
The Norwegian Økokrim went after DVD-JonWho's the doochebag that went after DVD Jon?
Økokrim, The Norwegian National Authority for Investigation and Prosecution of Economic and Environmental Crime did, after they got a call from Espen Tøndel in the law firm Simonsen & Musæus (link leads to Simonsen and Føyen; are they the same firm now?).
Mr. Tøndel is MPAA's attorney in Norway.
The Økokrim decided to prosecute, the chief prosecutor was Inger Marie Sunde (University of Oslo; she is no longer listed on Økokrim's web pages)
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Re:The root problem is For Profit health care
The main problem is that demand does not change as price goes up; people are willing to pay an infinite amount in order to receive certain kinds of health care, because the only alternative is death or intolerable suffering.
Actually, the research shows that there is a demand curve for health care, although it is less elastic than other industries. You aren't either "sick" or "well", we are all "sick" in some way as that we are all aging and have potential health problems, but we all have different opportunity costs for being sick, plus we all have different needs for treatments, including time-to-treatment ("it is annoying to be sick, but I can make it for another day or two if it will save me money"), ability to handle side effects, lifestyle, life views, etc.
See
The biggest problem in medicine is not that there is a demand curve, but that typical health insurance plans eradicate the individual's view of the demand curve through subsidization. Health costs go up with unregulated subsidization. Thus we have seen the need for regulation of individual health care use (HMO's, requirements for generic use, etc.) to try to arrive back at the demand curve. Unfortunately, these regulations are typically costly and gamed by voters through public choice theory for government-provided health care.
Good info one health care demand curve elasticity can be found here. Also this Powerpoint goes into a lot of details of health economics and demand curves. -
Re:Project Gutenberg
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/
allows for fairly easy conversion from guttenberg text to a number of other formats
(manual tweaking/markup required though)
you find a few output samples here
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#books
including the markup used, (a few markup samples also here)
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#markup
the markup for War and Peace:
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/sample/syntax/war_and_p eace.leo_tolstoy.s2.html
output
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#wap
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/war_and_peace.leo_tolst oy/
more complicated sample documents are also provided,
(LaTeX generated and used for pdf conversion)
primarily Linux / Unix software though. -
Re:Project Gutenberg
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/
allows for fairly easy conversion from guttenberg text to a number of other formats
(manual tweaking/markup required though)
you find a few output samples here
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#books
including the markup used, (a few markup samples also here)
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#markup
the markup for War and Peace:
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/sample/syntax/war_and_p eace.leo_tolstoy.s2.html
output
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#wap
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/war_and_peace.leo_tolst oy/
more complicated sample documents are also provided,
(LaTeX generated and used for pdf conversion)
primarily Linux / Unix software though. -
Re:Project Gutenberg
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/
allows for fairly easy conversion from guttenberg text to a number of other formats
(manual tweaking/markup required though)
you find a few output samples here
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#books
including the markup used, (a few markup samples also here)
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#markup
the markup for War and Peace:
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/sample/syntax/war_and_p eace.leo_tolstoy.s2.html
output
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#wap
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/war_and_peace.leo_tolst oy/
more complicated sample documents are also provided,
(LaTeX generated and used for pdf conversion)
primarily Linux / Unix software though. -
Re:Project Gutenberg
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/
allows for fairly easy conversion from guttenberg text to a number of other formats
(manual tweaking/markup required though)
you find a few output samples here
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#books
including the markup used, (a few markup samples also here)
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#markup
the markup for War and Peace:
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/sample/syntax/war_and_p eace.leo_tolstoy.s2.html
output
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#wap
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/war_and_peace.leo_tolst oy/
more complicated sample documents are also provided,
(LaTeX generated and used for pdf conversion)
primarily Linux / Unix software though. -
Re:Project Gutenberg
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/
allows for fairly easy conversion from guttenberg text to a number of other formats
(manual tweaking/markup required though)
you find a few output samples here
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#books
including the markup used, (a few markup samples also here)
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#markup
the markup for War and Peace:
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/sample/syntax/war_and_p eace.leo_tolstoy.s2.html
output
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#wap
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/war_and_peace.leo_tolst oy/
more complicated sample documents are also provided,
(LaTeX generated and used for pdf conversion)
primarily Linux / Unix software though. -
Re:Project Gutenberg
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/
allows for fairly easy conversion from guttenberg text to a number of other formats
(manual tweaking/markup required though)
you find a few output samples here
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#books
including the markup used, (a few markup samples also here)
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#markup
the markup for War and Peace:
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/sample/syntax/war_and_p eace.leo_tolstoy.s2.html
output
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#wap
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/war_and_peace.leo_tolst oy/
more complicated sample documents are also provided,
(LaTeX generated and used for pdf conversion)
primarily Linux / Unix software though. -
Re:Project Gutenberg
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/
allows for fairly easy conversion from guttenberg text to a number of other formats
(manual tweaking/markup required though)
you find a few output samples here
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#books
including the markup used, (a few markup samples also here)
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#markup
the markup for War and Peace:
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/sample/syntax/war_and_p eace.leo_tolstoy.s2.html
output
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#wap
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/war_and_peace.leo_tolst oy/
more complicated sample documents are also provided,
(LaTeX generated and used for pdf conversion)
primarily Linux / Unix software though. -
Re:Yikes, How long ...
War and Peace is online as a pdf (and in other formats)
(and has been for quite a while), rather nicely formatted too.
Check your own download times, no doubt they will vary :-p ;-) :-)
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/war_and_peace.leo_tolst oy/portrait
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/war_and_peace.leo_tolst oy/landscape
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#wap
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#books
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/ -
Re:Yikes, How long ...
War and Peace is online as a pdf (and in other formats)
(and has been for quite a while), rather nicely formatted too.
Check your own download times, no doubt they will vary :-p ;-) :-)
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/war_and_peace.leo_tolst oy/portrait
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/war_and_peace.leo_tolst oy/landscape
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#wap
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#books
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/ -
Re:Yikes, How long ...
War and Peace is online as a pdf (and in other formats)
(and has been for quite a while), rather nicely formatted too.
Check your own download times, no doubt they will vary :-p ;-) :-)
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/war_and_peace.leo_tolst oy/portrait
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/war_and_peace.leo_tolst oy/landscape
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#wap
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#books
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/ -
Re:Yikes, How long ...
War and Peace is online as a pdf (and in other formats)
(and has been for quite a while), rather nicely formatted too.
Check your own download times, no doubt they will vary :-p ;-) :-)
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/war_and_peace.leo_tolst oy/portrait
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/war_and_peace.leo_tolst oy/landscape
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#wap
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/SiSU/2#books
http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/