Domain: wuala.com
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Wuala
There's Wuala, which is essentially Dropbox with client-side encryption. It used to be free for personal use, but now plans start at 1 EUR per month. Also, the encrypted data is stored in Europe, which is nice. http://www.wuala.com
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Re:It's a pity
I just found Wuala as an alternative. I'm not sure what kind of integration you are looking for but the interface is quite nice. They have packages for Ubuntu among other distributions, as well as an Android client. You get 5G of free storage and my favorite part is that they do client-side encryption unlike most cloud providers.
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Re:It's a pity
I just found Wuala as an alternative. I'm not sure what kind of integration you are looking for but the interface is quite nice. They have packages for Ubuntu among other distributions, as well as an Android client. You get 5G of free storage and my favorite part is that they do client-side encryption unlike most cloud providers.
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Wuala
I've been using the free service from Wuala for a couple months. I'm not sure exactly how many files I have, but well over 100, but only about 600 MB total. I've had one issue where it reported a problem with not being able to sync a file. It recovered in about one minute without any intervention from me. 500 GB is $55/month. Servers are homed in Switzerland, Germany, and France.
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Wuala has been doing this for some time
Wuala, http://www.wuala.com/ has been doing the client side encryption for quite some time. They also offer lower pieces than Lockbox, including a free tier.
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Re:I like the idea
Just because you mentioned Switzerland, Wuala is a Swiss secure storage mob. Servers in Switzerland, Germany and France. Good focus on client-side encryption.
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Re:Why?
Also Jungle Disk and Wuala. The list goes on...
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Re:spideroak
So does Wuala: https://www.wuala.com/
I wonder why the poster didn't try searching the web for a phrase like "encrypted Dropbox alternative". -
Re:Wuala + Dropbox
Agreed, that is something that they're rightfully getting bugged about over and over. So far I think the only thing they've said is that auditing would be a solution: https://forum.wuala.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1207#p4894
Fraunhofer's comments on cloud storage (includes Wuala):
http://wualablog.blogspot.se/2012/05/fraunhofer-study-on-cloud-storage.htmlMy trust comes from the things that are documented and that they're
... European. You'll find them (incl. the Cryptree paper) here: http://wualablog.blogspot.se/2011/05/wualas-encryption-revisited.html(As to how much I trust them: That's where I back up my Bitcoin wallet)
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Re:Wuala + Dropbox
Wuala - http://wuala.com/
Very interesting. But one thing bothers me: I can't find an external audit or some other assurance that they actually do what they claim to do and that their crypto is any good. There's allegedly a paper out describing the crypto, but I can't find it.
Is there any 3rd party verification of their claims?
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Wuala + Dropbox
Wuala - http://wuala.com/
Like Dropbox, but with actual security - i.e, client side encryption. You can also share information with groups of others etc.
LastPass - http://lastpass.com/
Solves all password problems, and all you have to make sure is that the master password is accessible after your death. Like, in your will.
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Re:shareholders
I will tell you what will destroy Facebook: A FB-like Dropbox-frontend. Something that allows you to share whatever you want to share, blurring the boundary between local and cloud by making "the cloud" just a directory on your device.
Wuala works a bit like that, with a somewhat clumsy UI though. Your files are also accessible from Wuala's web servers and you can start "groups" with members who can comment on the group, members, files (through Wuala's file system integration on Windows)... It's not really being used actively though, which is a shame - and the UI needs to be fixed.
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Re:Google Drive
Wuala claims to encrypt your files locally:
All files are directly encrypted on your desktop. Your password never leaves your computer. Not even we as the provider can access your files or your password.
I'm giving it a try at the moment and so far it seems to work. If has both a sync and a backup option. It offers clients for Windows, Mac, Linux, iOS, Android. It's not open source and there currently seems to be no API. It's still in beta, so there's hope an API might eventually be added later on.
If you sign up with this referral, you'll start with 3GB instead of 2GB for the free account.
Disclosure: I'll receive additional 250MB storage space per account creation through that referral, up to a max of 5GB, as you can read here.
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Re:Google Drive
Wuala claims to encrypt your files locally:
All files are directly encrypted on your desktop. Your password never leaves your computer. Not even we as the provider can access your files or your password.
I'm giving it a try at the moment and so far it seems to work. If has both a sync and a backup option. It offers clients for Windows, Mac, Linux, iOS, Android. It's not open source and there currently seems to be no API. It's still in beta, so there's hope an API might eventually be added later on.
If you sign up with this referral, you'll start with 3GB instead of 2GB for the free account.
Disclosure: I'll receive additional 250MB storage space per account creation through that referral, up to a max of 5GB, as you can read here.
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Re:Google Drive
Wuala claims to encrypt your files locally:
All files are directly encrypted on your desktop. Your password never leaves your computer. Not even we as the provider can access your files or your password.
I'm giving it a try at the moment and so far it seems to work. If has both a sync and a backup option. It offers clients for Windows, Mac, Linux, iOS, Android. It's not open source and there currently seems to be no API. It's still in beta, so there's hope an API might eventually be added later on.
If you sign up with this referral, you'll start with 3GB instead of 2GB for the free account.
Disclosure: I'll receive additional 250MB storage space per account creation through that referral, up to a max of 5GB, as you can read here.
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Re:Privacy?
- If you're looking for privacy, don't store sensitive data in the cloud.
- If you have to, avoid companies which have an obvious interest in your connections, your data, and your profile.
- If you need strong transparent client-side encryption, you can either use a TrueCrypt container (like olsmeister mentioned), or use an alternative provider which offers this feature: for example, SpiderOak or Wuala. Dropbox, as you mentioned is not secure, because they hold your keys.
- Avoid the US and US-based companies for storage of sensitive data. The Patriot Act requires Google to give the DHS access to their servers, even if they are physically located in the EU. Wuala is operated by LaCie, a Swiss company; they guarantee that customer data will always be stored on their servers, which are located in the EU or Switzerland.
I'm not affiliated with either SpiderOak or LaCie, but we've researched possible cloud storage services last month, and settled on Wuala. So far, no problems.
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Re:ERROR
Yes. All software using cryptography relies on the encryption methods not having been compromised
... ;)Wuala employs the 256 bit AES, 2048 bit RSA and SHA-256 algorithms for encryption, signatures and integrity checks.
http://wuala.com/en/learn/technology
(But I agree I would be much happier if they just opened up the source)
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Re:ERROR
Wuala works the same way. In addition to that, and with direct relevance to the main topic in this story, they also guarantee that all data will be stored in Switzerland and the EU. This is an important factor for some companies (like ours).
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Re:ERROR
Based in Europe, and uses client-side encryption. They can't peek at your data even if they wanted to.
"It's like Dropbox, but actually usable!"
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Just delete it!
If there's some personal data you're missing at some point, just ask Google or the NSA
... But seriously, I've never made backups and not even bothered to copy over stuff from old PCs to newer ones when I upgraded (I keep old hard drives in a closet just in case there's something old I'm missing, but I never really do). The only personal stuff I keep safe is images on my iPhone (backed up on the PC) and email (safe-ish on the server at work). If I needed more space, I'd go with Wuala due to its relative safety (redundant storage, client side encryption) - but it's only free for 2GB or so nowdays. But ask yourself: do you really need all that data? I don't think so. -
Re:Is it safe? Is it secret?
Don't assume. It works just fine.
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Re:Is it safe? Is it secret?
You're looking for http://wuala.com/
It's also a "cloud drive", but client-side encrypted (bye bye Dropbox) as well as hosted in Europe.
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Re:New service?
I wonder how successful would be a company providing data storage service like Dropbox, but with guaranteed data security.
There are several companies like that: http://www.wuala.com/ , https://spideroak.com/ , http://www.swissdisk.com/. They are doing OK, I believe, but don't have the hype of Dropbox. They don't have to say they guarantee the security because only the user has the keys (which is the best guarantee possible).
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Wuala
Although offtopic, because not DIY, the answer, for now, for me, is "Wuala". http://www.wuala.com/ High quality java software, all content fully encrypted, sophisticated neatly designed access rights management (cryptree). It's not open source, but otherwise really close to perfect. I am in no way associated with the company (originally "Caleido", now merged into "Lacie").
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Re:Hosted Alternatives
Kinda like this? It's called Wuala. YMMV
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ownCloud or Wuala
On the open-source front, the only option I know is ownCloud. It provides the software to build your 'Cloud' storage, but you must provide your own hardware.
On the other side, you can try Wuala. It is not Open Source, but it encrypts all your files before uploading them. There are clients for almost every platform.
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Wuala
Wuala uses end-to-end encryption, ie. the data is encrypted and decrypted on the client. The employees can't access your data since they don't have the encryption key. This means you lose your data if you lose the key. It also means you can't access all your data in a convenient web interface -- though you can mark individual folders as being shared on the web (which obviously means trusting the server operators with the encryption key for that folder). I think it's a much more trustworthy model than Dropbox, and the Linux integration works well for me. Too bad it's not open source; IMO they should at least open-source the client component, for security and trust reasons if nothing else.
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Use Wuala
Use an old 100GB machine to donate 100GB to Wuala, then you get most of that back in guaranteed, online storage (encrypted and distributed as a bonus). Sweet. http://www.wuala.com/
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Link to Video of Press conference
I captured and converted it to mp4 format for anybody that wants to view it.
http://www.wuala.com/danathar/public
file is nasa.mp4 (it's the only one on that page)
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Re:Doubt it
Facebook's selling point was its exclusivity - you originally joined Facebook because only college kids were on it, and no one else. You stayed on it for the clean interface.
Hardly. Facebook's selling point was and still is that it enforces lack of privacy for other people you are interested in and for yourself, when you see a benefit in it (or an illusion thereof). Diaspora's selling point seems to be a lot of privacy and minimum exposure for yourself, which does not sound like it'll be a strong selling point for a "social network". To put it differently, Facebook is for stalking people who don't care (enough) about privacy. Diaspora only has people who care about privacy, so what's there to look at?
For me, the best alternative to Facebook would be something that works in exactly the same way from the user's point of view but without providing arbitrary access to the service provider and 3rd parties, like Facebook according to rumors. A good basis for implementing something like this would be wuala, it has all the access levels (public, private, friends only) and security mesures required, as well as redundancy. It would only require a frontend that collects new stuff from your friends' shares and posts to your appropriate share. -
Re:Take it a step further...
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Re:Separate them
No shit. I happen to think that sucks and I welcome people trying to circumvent it. So far most of the suggestions seem to be "don't do that," which is not very constructive when you do, in fact, want to do that. For instance, suggesting someone NOT keep a journal (wherever) because it might be discovered is not a very good suggestion when that someone wants to write down personal thoughts (who cares for what reason).
Now, if your employer has locked down internet access particularly tightly, accessing private storage might be difficult. But otherwise, I can't imagine this being impossibly hard. Off the top of my head, there's Wuala, which is a cloud storage service like Dropbox, but all of the data is stored encrypted. Dropbox also encrypts, but only during transmission, so man-in-the-middle attacks (e.g. by the employer) are difficult; however, the data is stored in the clear on the Dropbox servers, so it's possible somebody else could gain access to it -- the Dropbox admins, LEO, possibly your next-of-kin in case of your demise. Wuala OTOH stores stuff encrypted on their servers, so without the key phrase nobody can read it. (Or at least that's what they claim! Big honking caveat there.) They have a Java webstart thing you can use to access your stuff from any computer that can execute Java webstart things, which might or might not be true for an office PC. If you can use that, I think it'd be a fairly safe way to store private data; although you'd still need to create the file locally before storing it on the platform.
I'm not affiliated with Wuala in any way, incidently, but if you want to sign up you're welcome to use my referral link to give both of use increased storage. There are a few other services that work similarly, Wuala is just the first one I found that did end-to-end encryption. E.g. SpiderOak Online Storage sounds similar. I also tried to use Dropbox along with encfs for end-to-end encryption but it's just not that convenient.
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Online backup?
If online backup is an option, why not try http://www.wuala.com/ ?
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Re:Sad Joke...
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Vint Cerf Talk at RIT
Here is a recent talk by Vint Cerf about the early days of the Internet and it's future.
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Wuala might work too
I know this is late and all but wuala might suite someones needs: http://www.wuala.com/ It's a distributed file system. Pros: - Owned by LaCie - Uses distributed P2P technology to store data fragments (your data is encrypted and distributed). - Ability to "trade storage space" (donate your hdd space and bandwidth for more "distributed storage"). - Multiplatform Cons: - Java application on your desktop
:-( Check out their features: http://www.wuala.com/en/learn/features ...and a google tech talk they gave about their technology: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xKZ4KGkQY8 -
Wuala might work too
I know this is late and all but wuala might suite someones needs: http://www.wuala.com/ It's a distributed file system. Pros: - Owned by LaCie - Uses distributed P2P technology to store data fragments (your data is encrypted and distributed). - Ability to "trade storage space" (donate your hdd space and bandwidth for more "distributed storage"). - Multiplatform Cons: - Java application on your desktop
:-( Check out their features: http://www.wuala.com/en/learn/features ...and a google tech talk they gave about their technology: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xKZ4KGkQY8 -
Re:Any prediction over ten years is null and voidHe did say that, but it was taken out of context:
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Re:Rotate the backups!
Hmm, try one of these:
http://www.wuala.com/
http://www.rsync.net/ -
Anyone ever used Wuala before
This this is quite neat. Cross platform (Java Web Start), secure and free . You can donate local storage to gain more remote storage.