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NEC Announces 61-inch Monitor
return 42 writes: "NEC will start selling 61-inch monitors next month. No pricing yet (if you have to ask, you can't afford it)." I'll promise to return it if NEC sends me one for review. Honest. Cross my heart. Update Chrisd sent us a related note, here's a 63" that got stolen. One of a kind of kind souvenir baby!
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Did you actually read the article? That is .99 mm, not .99 inches -- pretty
darn good.
It helps to carry a clipboard; make notes from time to time on it. You can go anywhere and get away with anything if you have some sort of uniform and look serious.
...that degause button...you may fry your knuts and cook the cat in one fell swoop!
If 7-11 can sell a 64-ounce big gulp, then it figures that things like this will follow. It's the Ford Excursion of monitors; a pixel-guzzling sport-utility-display.
Get 1200 red light bulbs, 1200 green light bulbs, 1200 blue light bulbs, a DAC, 4000 feet of 12 guage wire, and a 220 volt three phase power source.
Step one. Mount light bulbs in RGB clusters and wire them.
Step two. Use DAC to convert analog VGA signal to digital light bulb switch.
Step three. Connect to computer and power source.
Max resolution: about 35 x 35 Min resolution: about 35 x 35
I got 10 to 1 saying it shows up on eBay within 24 hours.
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What is the advantage of this monstrosity over a tabletop projector that costs a fraction as much and can probably use a bigger screen?
I'd be willing to put up with a small margin for the benefit of an arbitrarily large, relatively inexpensive display.
>something. Nevermind.
. . . If I put it at the other end of my office, I could work at my usual resolution without my glasses . . .
hawk
so, if you watch a regular movie converted (or even displayed?) in pal it will be 4 percent shorter? Jeez, if only I knew that earlier... anything that would have made "Sister Act II" 10 minutes shorter would be worth a LOT of money to me.
Well.. Maybe Samsung can catch the thieves when they send in their warranty registration card?
> Not with a 0.99 dot pitch :)
:)
> Nice resolution though, 1300x768. Good for corporate presentations. And Quake III.
As the photo on the link clearly shows, this seems to be a monitor directed towards presentations, boards and stuff. You don't want a huge resolution. 1300x768 is a reasonably big resolution, and the dot pitch, at a fair distance as it was designed for, doesn't strike me as that a huge (and bad) dot pitch.
However, it has too little resolution to substitute a blackboard, but just think of an arquitect with one of these babies with a sensor screen... GREAT!
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And they'll get all the sales from the suits who exclaim, "I need the biggest monitor you can get for the board room!" They may be compensating for small PC's.
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I want icons as big as my head!
I want people to run away screaming as a rocket fills the entire screen in Quake3!
I want to be able to sit back half-a county away and still be able to read the text on the screen!
*Dances away to the tune of "Frank's 2000 Inch TV"*
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Pioneer has been selling a professional model 60" display with d-sub and bnc rgbhv inputs for at least 18 months. This display is only 1" bigger.
To your execu-weenie 'nerve center' where you take future customers so they can ooooh and aaaaahhhh over your help desk process. Hang them on the wall so the customers can see them while they walk down the hall.
...but all the eskimo words for snow are, technically, obscenities... :)
I also find the resolution, 1365x768 as mentioned everywhere, a bit odd...
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It's not a problem, just make sure you purchase the letterbox versions of your applications...
But at least it'll look good in the ads...
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Your message was fascinating. Please tell me more. By the way, do you think we could display a 61 inch picture of a hamster on one of these fine screens?
Hamsters are at least as feathery as penguins. HamLix
I still want to play Half-Life on the billboard sized "monitor" along 101 in the bay area (not far from SFO).
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Reading the spec of this beast, it looks like the resolution and pitch really stink. You'd be better off using a traditional projector if you didn't need such a rectangular format.
> These features include: a cinema mode "2-3 Pull
> Down" function for high vision 1080i
Isn't it 3-2 pull down? It has been a while since I worked in the MPEG encoding/Movie/Video world, but I remember it being 3-2 pull down.
(3-2 pull down is the process of converting a 24 FPS movie back and forth to 30 FPS NTSC video, using a ratio of 3 movie frames=2 video frames).
2-3 pull would be pull up.
So is "God damn it! I really fucking want one!"
How the heck does a 63" screen get stolen? I mean you are hardly going to be able to work out of the show room with one of those under your jacket - hmm, I can just imagine it ;-)
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To support the PX-61XM1's monitor, NEC teamed up with nVIDIA Corporation
to develop a new chip, which makes full display of the wide XGA (1,360
by 768 pixels) and VGA (848 by 480 pixels) possible and enables CAD/CAM
detailed material to be displayed accurately without image stretch
oh puh-leeze, what about just using X and creating a custom mode line? Since when one needs a new chip to drive a non-standard resolution...
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Nice monitor. I'm sure we'll all have them in our houses someday. In the meantime, I'm really happy with my RCA 52" projection TV/monitor. It only does 600x800, but that's usually good enough when you're sitting on the couch. And of course DirectTV and DVDs look fantastic too. Upgradeable to HDTV.
How the hell did they sneak it out of the hall? They certainly didn't stuff it under their jacket! It'd take two hands to carry the thing!
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That does not mean that you can copy anything you want. It means that it will not display any copy protected content.
There is nothing so silly as other peoples traditions, and nothing so sacred as our own.
Nice resolution though, 1300x768. Good for corporate presentations. And Quake III.
Waterproof one of these bad boys, put it at one end of your back yard, install some speakers on poles and bingo! Mini-Drive-In!
Yeah, with these new screens, we will soon be able to have real-size p0rn ! If only they added some holography...
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Now would be a good time for someone to start selling computer desks that this monitor could fit in.
Seriously, I'd like to get a better resolution than that spec so I could use today's apps and just push all the toolbars/palettes around AND have a great canvas size.
Of course I could just go multi-mon, but that's not as cool as this TekWar-like monitor.
Besides the resolution, i'm a little bummed that a plasma display should have such a low contrast rato. 60:1 isn't all that impressive.
-jcr
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sitting in the first row of a movie theater?
What I would like to see is a tileable display module (zero-width margins), with hardware to distribute the video to various combinations of tiles.
Then you could construct a custom display of whatever size and shape you like.
You could also maintain the display by replacing individual tiles (instead of replacing the whole display).
Anyone heard of such a scheme in industry?
Pop-up ads the size of lunchboxes....
on the bright side.. my wrist would get a good workout scrolling and scrolling....
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sorry, a 0.99 dot pitch is not acceptable. comon here... this is really just a television screen, not a monitor. slashdot, dont waste my time.
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...for the price you're paying, a screen resolution of 1365x768 which is 61", you could make do with a *lot* cheaper LCD projector shining output on a wall or whiteboard. At least for CAD/CAM work, that's what I'd do (assuming walking in front of the projector is an avoidable issue.)
--LP
Risin' above the city, blocking out the noonday sun
It dwarfs the mighty redwoods and it towers over everyone
I still remember when that delivery truck came down our block
What a lucky guy, I hear he got the last one in stock
And the neighbors are just green
They say, "That's the biggest screen we've ever seen!"
It's Frank's 2000" TV
Everybody come and see
Frank's 2000" TV
There's Frank's remote control, you can look at it but don't touch it, please
'Cause Frank's the one in charge and he decides what everybody sees
The picture's crystal clear and everything is magnified
Robert DeNiro's mole has got to be ten feet wide
Everybody in the town
Can hear those 90,000 watts of Dolby Sound
And I'm mighty proud to say
Now I can watch "The Simpsons" from 30 blocks away
On Frank's 2000" TV
Everybody come and see
Frank's 2000" TV
Everybody come and see
I'm gonna get one of my own real soon
It's like having a drive-in movie in your own living room
Whoa, hey now, hey no na na na now
Hey now, Hey now na na now
Frank's 2000" TV
Everybody come and see
You won't believe it
Frank's 2000" TV
Everybody come and see
Frank's 2000" TV
Get a 2-year warranty on parts and labor
Frank's 2000" TV
Frank's 2000" TV
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True. The spec sheet linked to in the press release puts it a nice 660 W. Whoa. I also find the resolution, 1365x768 as mentioned everywhere, a bit odd...
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but for those of us that are long sighted putting one on the wall across the room could be very comfortable ...
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Duh , in case you didn't notice the person holding the camera was sitting about as far away as this monitor was designed for , quit thinking this is a monitor for a single person
very easily when it's noticed that someone is trying to download the drivers.
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Wonder what the black market value of a 63", hand built, one of three in the world, display is?
I bet the mafia stole the display and gave it to a hacker who they pay to encrypt their email!
I feel like an eskimo talking about snow, because I can come up with thousands of ways to say "I want one of those!!!"
You want one of these?
The write-up says the resolution is only 1365x768 which seems all wrong... I routinely run 1600x1200 on my mouldy old trinitron. Hmmm -T
Wrong.
As we have both projectors and plasma screens in the office, and it's my job to take care of them, I know the difference. For the people complaining about resolution: You have to be kidding. All you need is 1356x768. You know what that is? 16:9 resolution, for displaying DVD-like and HDTV like video. Exactly what you would use in a presentation. Make the resolution higher, and the crowd that was brough into see something can't read what is on the screen. On top of that, you need a hella-powerful video processor on-board, which will spike up the cost of the unit, and when we bought our 50" model, it was 26K plus change. It's meant as a videoconferencing or powerpoint display, or as a huge television.
Second, why not use a projector? The answer is lumens. A top-model projector can't be properly used in a fully-lit room. Incandescent lights kill the projector's power. A plasma screen, however, can be used outside in direct sunlight, and people can still see it. The other issue is intropolation. A projector may function at a higher resolution, but anything over 1280x1024 is intropolated, and you lost picture qulaity as it dithers the pixels. You get resolution and size, and you sacrifice quality. A plasma screen runs at it's set resolutions, and is clearer than any display on the planet.
At first glance, the 1365x768 pixel dimensions might seem a little arbitrary or strange. (When was the last time you saw a display with an odd horizontal pixel count?)
Things get clearer when you realize that 1365x768 works out to a 16:9 aspect ratio, which is the standard for widescreen TV (and fairly close to the aspect ratio of most widescreen movies). It seems likely that the designers chose a nice "round" vertical pixel count (768), and simply multiplied it by 16/9 to get the 1365 that we now have.
Thing is, how "round" is 768, really? I mean, sure it's a nice multiple of 2^8, but consider:
High definition TV (US standard) has a vertical pixel count of 480, 720, or 1080. DVD has a vertical pixel count of 480. None of these will scale cleanly to 768. To get decent (but not great) picture quality, you'll have to do some fairly sophisticated bilinear or bicubic resampling, or -- in the case of a 720p signal -- be willing to tolerate a small black border in order to get as sharp a picture as possible.
I'm wondering why the designers didn't choose, say, 720, 960, or 1080 as the vertical pixel count instead. Any of these choices would have made for optimal image quality in at least one format. But as it stands, the display is a "jack of all trades, master of none" -- and needlessly so, at that.
Anyone care to enlighten me on this design decision?
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My dream of life-size pr0n can now be fulfilled...
Seriously, though, if you need a 61" display just get a projector. This will only find use in places where projectors aren't practical (kiosks and the like).
"...makes it ideal for mid-sized conference room...", yeah right. All of my company's conference rooms have projectors, and I'm damn sure they were a lot cheaper.
Pretty monitor, of course, but the price is going to be otherworldly.
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A monitor is perhaps one of the few areas in life where it's not the size that matters (well, so long as it's not tiny), but what you can do with it. In this case, you have a huge monitor, but can't do jack for resolution with it. And that's what I really need: a pixel as big as a frickin' beachball.
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what kind of refresh rates plasma displays are capable of?
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That's easily fixed. Just buy four of them and arrange them in a square... ;)
Ok, I have to admit, seeing pr0n stars in almost life size would be kinda cool. However, it would suck to see the goatsecx image on that.
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We have a "Legally Blind" employee. I got him a Gateway Destination (the 32" thing), and he thinks I'm a hero.
And no, the 640x480 resolution does not bother him - it's just what he needs.
Will I retire or break 10K?
I guess they wanted to compete with the LCD projectors in peeing competition.
Can anyone see any use to this beast that a projector couldn't fulfill?
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This looks like a nice display. And, who wouldn't like to have a big TV that was only 3" deep? But, if I'm gonna get into something in this price range, it better do EVERYTHING I want. Unfortunately, with a resolution of 1,365 by 768, it doesn't even measure up to current HDTV broadcasts (1920 x 1080). There are HDTV tuners that can downconvert to 720p, which should look pretty good on this display. And, DVD movies upconverted to 1365x768 would be great.. But, one more generation of these things should get it to HDTV resolutions, and probably lower the prices a few thousand dollars.
They're small.
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running even at 1635x768 on a 61" would seemingly be worse than what, 800x600 on a 19-21"??? if i'm going to have a screen that's physically big, it had BETTER be able to let me run lots and lots of programs without minimizing...forget VIRTUAL desktops, i want to see all of them at once!
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Okay it may be great for corporate presentations but how far away do you have to sit to work at it! Amiga DE: Coming Very Soon
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The specs say it's resolution is 1365(H) x 768(V) pixels. I guess I wish something that size could be used at a higher resolution if desired.
This ain't for Californians. Plasma displays' power consumption...
Um, can it do 640 by 480?
The main problem is that I had to get a license from the Atomic Energy Commision to switch it on...
- - - If the sun is a star, why can't I see it at night?
So let me get this straight someone nabbed the display from the NAB confrence?
Now all I need is a wall big enough to put both on...
Hey I can dream can't I??
Resolution is everything, and these monitors don't have as much resolution as a 19 inch monitor you can buy for $350.
So what if it is large. If you get close, it's grainy.
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2-3 Pulldown or 3-2 Pulldown doesn't care. 2 movie frames = 3 video frames isn't the way the pulldown works. Just do the math, this will get you 36 fps not 30 fps or 60 hfps.
It is called 2-3 or 3-2 pulldown because you make 3 half video frames out of every even movie frame and 2 half video frames out of every odd movie frame. As you see it doesn't really matter if you do a 2-3 pulldown or a 3-2 pulldown. PAL uses another way of converting a movie to PAL. As PAL has only 50 fields per second, it simply speeds up the movie by 4% and makes two half fields out of every movie frame.
Jan
Yes, movies converted to PAL are 4 percent shorter and the audio has a slightly higher pitch. Commercial tv stations sometimes use other convertions techniques that make the film a bit longer,for obvious reasons ,but normally pal movies are 4 percent shorter than the cinema version. NTSC movies have the right length but are always are little bit jerky because of the pulldown process.
Jan
As I unpack my spanky new 61" with a fork lift and lovingly set it upon the concrete foundation I had to have installed, I wonder... Can the world be an more wonderful? No.
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...
I make my connections and give the monitor a once over to relish in this historical moment.
I depress the power button, my heart is beating fast....
The lights dim and go out.
The breaker box blows.
I am in the dark.
The world could not be more wonderful... I love this.
The phone rings.
I answer.
Not only have I blown my power, but half the grid is down.
Life is good.
robp
I believe it was sony. They came out with a large plasma display like this 1 or 2 years ago. Great for board room meetings / impressing clients. Not so good because (at least the old version) has a life span on the order of only a year or so.
a 61 inch screen is nice and all, but i'd rather see them work on somethin more productive and enhanced. ohhh 61 inch ya, let me see somethin new and inovative.
If that were the case, I would no longer need the 61" monitor for, uhhh..., presentations. I could preoccupy my time other ways. ;)
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At 12 inches away, all the pr0n stars seem to be life-sized, and it feels like you're finally getting that lesbian orgy you've always wanted.
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You need some of these. Get a large array of true RGB LEDs and you're set. Of course the cost would probably be super expensive since I think they are still around $8/each in large volumes and you'd also have to build all the hadrware to control them.
Tokyo electronics company, NEC, released a huge 61-inch plasma monitor today. NEC spokesman, Keiichiro "Ketchup" Fujiwara, says it will alleviate much tension and feelings of inferiority among the workers at NEC. "We have long felt our NASDAQ symbol, NIPNY, is a racial slur and it has caused many employees to feel unmotivated," said Fujiwara. Then, while destroying an intricate model of New York City, he added, "This new monitor will force people to look at us differently, like Gojira rising from the deep to destroy Mosura." [ed: "Gojira" and "Mosura" are known in the western hemisphere as "Godzilla" and "Mothra", respectively]
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It'll go perfectly with my cordless mouse I can use from three meters away, I love it, one step closer to using my computer from the couch.
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As far as the people whining about dot pitch, you're a dumbass if you want to sit a foot away from this thing. That's not what it's made for.
Advantages over a projector? Very wide viewable angle, and it's not a reflected picture like a projector is, so the picture doesn't wash out in ambient light.
Advantages over a projection TV? They are very thin, only 5-6 inches thick, so you can hang them on walls like a picture. Just don't use those little plastic anchors, mount it into the studs, please. They are a lot lighter than a CRT the same size, but they are a tad expensive, so you don't want it falling off the wall.
For the /. crowd, a 32-inch plasma that Fujitsu just released might be a touch more realistic. Those go for about $3000. Imagine cleaning off your desk and hanging that on the wall in front of you. It would be great until someone walked down the hall and started whining about the dot pitch....
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[T]he jumbo-sized plasma monitor is aimed to meet the growing demand coming from the business and educational sectors And you thought schools would have a hard time keeping their computers from walking away...
Projectors are a much cheaper way to run Quake. Now if they could get the same kind of resolution in dots per inch with that thing that normal CRTs do, and computers get so fast that you can run quake at a great frame rate, that would be cool.
The display is perfectly designed for a five-foot wide laptop!
Bring that on the plane.....
What were you expecting?
... part of the monitor?
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61 inch? how long would it take to get your mouse pointer from one side to the other??
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