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Lego Mindstorms In Space

ribbiting writes: "A father-son team have won the "Ultimate Builder Competition" (Lego Mindstorms) with their entry named "Jitter". The robot will fly to the ISS in November. It fits (whole) into a approx. 1'x1'x1' box and weighs less than 3 lbs. It's main mission is to collect small, flying debris. It can interact with the station walls and crew and supposedly has some light "mischief" programmed in as well (sneaking up on people, dancing). The story can be found here, de.news.yahoo.com, it's in German (sorry)." We mentioned the contest a few months ago. Altavista gives a semi-readable machine translation.

228 comments

  1. Sneaking up on people? by FortKnox · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is "Sneaking up on people" such a good idea in something as stressful as a space station?

    I give it two months before an astronaut "accidentally" blasts it out an airlock...

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    1. Re:Sneaking up on people? by mutt+lynch · · Score: 1

      I couldn't see a Lego robot being any more annoying than having Tito ride along with the Russians. Besides, I'm sure NASA would remove the mischief subroutines from the program.

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    2. Re:Sneaking up on people? by Jantastic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "Is "Sneaking up on people" such a good idea in something as stressful as a space station?"

      Yes. I think the element of surprise, especially from a 'toy', might be appreciated if you're living in a confined space for some time.

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    3. Re:Sneaking up on people? by Cheeko · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Also the rebot has the nice ability of being turned off and back on again. Tito would have been a bit tougher to turn back on again if they turned him off ;) Problem I could see however is if the robot starts to come apart and then there are all these lego blocks floating around inside the station.

    4. Re:Sneaking up on people? by Chundra · · Score: 3, Funny

      Agreed. But I hear the Russians are still really into "ABC-123". They couldn't afford to pay Michael so they settled for Tito.

    5. Re:Sneaking up on people? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What ever happened to Tito Jackson?

    6. Re:Sneaking up on people? by malfunct · · Score: 1

      In that case they just need to collect the parts and follow the instructions to put the bot back together again, legos are easy to fix :)

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    7. Re:Sneaking up on people? by freq · · Score: 1

      HA HA hA hA hA~!

      i bout fell outta my chair on that one. somebody mod that one up.

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    8. Re:Sneaking up on people? by Griim · · Score: 1

      Why oh why are we programming the robots to do this at this stage? Why not also make a database of all the ways to kill a human, and store it in the robot for "safe keeping" too?

    9. Re:Sneaking up on people? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      glue.

  2. Beer-Maid-o-Tron by Mr.+Eradicator · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now if they could mod that robot so it would fetch a beer on voice command, that would be sweet.

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    1. Re:Beer-Maid-o-Tron by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To quote Opus (or was it Milo):
      In space it's never Miller Time.

    2. Re:Beer-Maid-o-Tron by The0racle · · Score: 1

      Just give it a wedding ring.

  3. Other Possibilities by tino_sup · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It might be interesting to have this type of device do some mundane house keeping tasks. Another possibility is a mobile alarm clock that looks for people if it has not been turned off, and wakes them up.

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    1. Re:Other Possibilities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If there were mundane house keeping tasks that could be done by a robot or something, don't you think NASA would already have implemented it? I don't think Lego Mindstorms are the answer here.

    2. Re:Other Possibilities by drinkypoo · · Score: 1
      If there were mundane house keeping tasks that could be done by a robot or something, don't you think NASA would already have implemented it? I don't think Lego Mindstorms are the answer here.

      But that's exactly what this mindstorms robot is for; It cruises around sweeping up debis and sucking it via vaccuum into a hopper inside its "korpus", heh heh. Or so I gleaned from the article once it had been piped through babelfish.

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    3. Re:Other Possibilities by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny

      Another possibility is a mobile alarm clock that looks for people if it has not been turned off, and wakes them up.

      Why do I get this mental picture of a relentless, unstoppable robotic alarm clock (with an Austrian accent) that's going to come find you and wake you up, no matter where you are?

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    4. Re:Other Possibilities by Foochar · · Score: 1

      No No No, thats the reverse alarm clock. The one that puts you to sleep no matter where you are.

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    5. Re:Other Possibilities by BombTechnician · · Score: 0

      i can honestly say that if a lego robot was trying to wake me up....... it would cease to function. one backhand would be more than enough.

      "hey man, you seen the alarm bot?"
      "yeah..... theres some of him over there in the corner, under the bed.... some pieces on the dresser..... take your pick man."

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    6. Re:Other Possibilities by maxpublic · · Score: 1

      How long would such a robot last? I flail in the general direction of my alarm clock until I hit the snooze button; if the robot doesn't 'snooze' I can guarrantee you it'd be flung hard into a wall the first time it hunted me down and sounded the alarm.

      Max

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    7. Re:Other Possibilities by Dr.+Manhattan · · Score: 1
      Why do I get this mental picture of a relentless, unstoppable robotic alarm clock (with an Austrian accent) that's going to come find you and wake you up, no matter where you are?

      It can't be snoozed. It can't be unplugged. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fatigue. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are up!

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    8. Re:Other Possibilities by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      And when it says "Are you Sarah Conner? This is your wake-up call.", reply "Sorry, wrong number."

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  4. I would like to build by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the Megamaid out of Lego mindstorm kits. You could probably do it too.

  5. Let me guess... by Masem · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...it also sings 'Daisy, Daisy' if you start taking it apart?

    Or is that a DMCA violation? :-)

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    1. Re:Let me guess... by mestreBimba · · Score: 5, Funny

      No it says
      "Dave, what are you doing Dave?"

      "Will I dream?"

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    2. Re:Let me guess... by Looge+Over+All! · · Score: 0

      Since when did actually getting a joke deserve "5 Funny"?

    3. Re:Let me guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Uuumm... in what way is this joke different from it's parent? I guess at least four moderators got the original joke, and those who didn't modded this up.

      Stupid stupid stupid.

  6. Robot in space? by Popoi · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can see it now..

    "Open the pod bay doors Jitter."

    1. Re:Robot in space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm sorry Dennis (Tito), I can't do that.

    2. Re:Robot in space? by spacerobot · · Score: 1

      Hi, forget the machine translation. It was very funny to read it. (perhaps for you, to read my english ;-) ) Just let me explain the functions of Jitter. First of all, the Jitter will be transported by a russian rocket to the ISS in November. May be in December one of the astronouts will unpack the robot an switch it on. Then, described by a storybook, they will test the functions. This will take about 15-20 minutes. This is nothing else like any other industry experiments. Now the technical description of Jitter: - 2 Mindstorm computers, OS is Lejos - Programminglanguage JAVA , 6 Threads on 2 processors, intracommunication via infrared - 2 Impulsdrives (I don't know a better name) for X/Y- and X/Z-axis. If jitter touch a ISS-Wall one Mindstorm (because it has the biggest mass in the robot) will be accelerated for a short moment in perpendicular to the wall (wow what a sentence). In other words if the robot thouch a wall it will "jitter" for a moment and push himself away from the wall. - 3 aceleration sensors (X/Y/Z-axis) will notice all accelerations and one Mindstorm will compute the spacevector. This given by an IR-Message to the other Mindstorm for balancecontrol. - 3 Motors with wheels (X/YZ-axis again) can give a rotationimpuls (remember physics ;-)) to turn the robot in space. This will be used for balance the robot, or turn the frontside in flight direction after touch a wall. - 2 Lightsensors to ballance the robot in direction to cabinlight. - 1 lightsensor (together with a infrared transmitter) to find somethin what's moving around. - 2 touchsensors to communicate with the astronouts - 1 touchsensor which triggers the "catchmechanism" - 1 motor for the catchmechnism - 2 motors for the drives The software gives Jitter some additional "features" like playing a song (sounds realy bad like a mobil) and ..." One word to, why spend people hundreds of hours to build a Lego-Robot? My son and me found, it's very exciting to design a robot who realy is be able to operate under microgravity. It was also absolute greate to see the other 9 robots of the final-competition and the real genious ideas in it. And (some may not understand)for my son and me it will be one of the events in our life, we will rember, when our Jitter, we build in many nights, will work in space.

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  7. Question? by merlin_jim · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Did anyone understand the part about "It moves primarily through a cam in a cage. On contact with the wall, it applies through moving disc cam in cage, to the opposite axis"

    I understand that this says basically that it moves away from walls when it contacts them, but I can't figure out for the life of me what a "disc cam in cage" is, or how this would help it push off of the wall?

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    1. Re:Question? by Tha_Zanthrax · · Score: 1

      Of course this weird sentence is caused by the translation.
      My guess is that the robot move in a imaginary cage/cube (much like communication satalites).

    2. Re:Question? by MadCow42 · · Score: 2

      I believe that by 'disc cam in cage', they mean some sort of gyro device. By spinning a mass (within a cage for safety), you can rotate the robot the other direction.

      This type of device (although not a Lego one...) is used to orient many things in space, including the Hubble space telescope.

      As for pushing off walls... you got me there. Anyone have photo links to this thing?

      MadCow

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    3. Re:Question? by merlin_jim · · Score: 2

      A gyro! Of course!!! Thanks everyone!

      As for the moving away from walls part, I think it means orienting away from the wall it just touched...

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    4. Re:Question? by Christopher+Thomas · · Score: 2

      I understand that this says basically that it moves away from walls when it contacts them, but I can't figure out for the life of me what a "disc cam in cage" is, or how this would help it push off of the wall?

      Pure speculation, as I haven't seen pictures of the thing either, but - if the "cam" is a heavy disc mounted on an off-center axis, turning it would change where the center of mass of the robot was. This would push the surrounding "cage" (and the rest of the robot) in the opposite direction. If you just want translation instead of rotation, you'd use two off-center cams and spin them in opposite directions (pure mass shift, no net application of torque).

      If you had a setup like this, you could rig it to "jitter" (push the cage in one direction when the cams' center of mass goes in the other) whenever it touched a wall, to push off of the surface.

      No idea if this is what they did, though.

    5. Re:Question? by Dunall · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I used to be a satellite controller for the Military and our communications satellites used gyro's to adjust positioning. During the day if a small adjustment was needed it would suddenly 'kick' the gyros which would cause just enough movement (very little actually) to slightly face the satellite more towards what we wanted it pointed towards. We used an earth sensor and a sun sensor in conjunction to keep the bird pointed precisely at the earth. (And to align the solar arrays.) This gyro kick happened several times a day and was almost always an automatic response to it's sensors, though we could initiate it manually if we wanted to.

      I suppose if you were to spin up a series of gyro's at once you could produce enough movement to make it a lot more noticable.

    6. Re:Question? by Null_Packet · · Score: 1

      Basically the 'cam' is something like a spinning disc that controls its spin on the different axises (sp?).

      So in other words, if it hits a wall and starts to spin, the cam/disc will spin in the opposite direction to stop its rotation.

    7. Re:Question? by u.hertlein · · Score: 1

      I believe that by 'disc cam in cage', they mean some sort of gyro device. By spinning a mass (within a cage for safety), you can rotate the robot the other direction.

      It's not a gyro which can (AFAIR) only be used to control rotation about an axis but not movement.

      Here is another article (also in german, but maybe it translates better). They're saying that movement is done by impulse by a constantly rotating camshaft that's mounted inside a cage. Whenever the robot hits a wall the cage moves w.r.t. to the camshaft (and the camshaft hits the cage I suspect).

      What I could imagine is that the camshaft pushes the cage and thereby pushes the robot away from the wall it just hit.

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    8. Re:Question? by SEWilco · · Score: 1
      That's much more elegant than what I thought -- that a spinning off-center disc was constantly wriggling it, so it would simply tend to bounce off a wall.

      But spinning in the opposite direction fits the mention of orientation to the lighting. And reaction to a wall impact will make motors be active only briefly, which will make batteries last a reasonable time.

  8. Oh really.. by Dolly_Llama · · Score: 5, Funny
    It's main mission is to collect small, flying debris.

    You mean small flying debris, like loose 1x3 Lego Blocks?

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    1. Re:Oh really.. by thejake316 · · Score: 1

      They better bring along some ants that are trained to pick up lego blocks and tiny screws. And a carbon rod.

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    2. Re:Oh really.. by satanami69 · · Score: 1

      It's just going to be used to sort tiny screws in space. Ants are too hazardous.

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  9. This is truly nifty. by trilucid · · Score: 1


    All right, this *is* cool. Although now I'm faced with a somewhat difficult problem... those danged Legos are so lightweight, my erector set components are just too outdated to fly into space :).

    Oh well, I suppose my Super-Erector-TVStationChaging-FloorSweeping-Bathr oomScrubbing-TeethBrushing autonomous PC 6300 8086-driven bot will just have to stay earth-bound for now...

    1. Re:This is truly nifty. by lonenut · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Hey cockgrabber.

      Its 'LEGO Bricks' not 'LEGO'

      A LEGO brick
      2 LEGO bricks
      Some LEGO bricks
      Big fucking pile of LEGO bricks

      OK?

      Thankyou.

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      BTW: '2 pieces of LEGO' is a poor example. Nobody says '2 pieces of pies', they say '2 pieces of pie'.

    2. Re:This is truly nifty. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just as long as it doesn't brush your teeth with the same scrubber it uses for the bathroom....

      I'd look into why your teeth are so bleachedwhite *smile*

    3. Re:This is truly nifty. by lonenut · · Score: 1

      Methinks you missed the smartass nature of my reply. Go to dictionary.com and look up facetious, parody, and sarcastic. Learn something today.

      Your german sucks too.

  10. weight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It fits (whole) into a approx. 1'x1'x1' box and weighs less than 3 lbs.

    Won't it weigh 0 lb in space? Surely you meant to give its mass in slugs.

    1. Re:weight? by 13013dobbs · · Score: 0, Insightful

      That is how much it weighs on Earth. They need to keep these things light because the more weight you have to lift the more fuel you need. It may not seem like much, but it all does add up.

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    2. Re:weight? by ruebarb · · Score: 1

      I think weight has more to do with launching it into space...when every pound costs thousands of dollars to transport, what seems miniscule suddenly becomes very important.

      By putting a weight limit on it, they were able to restrict people building monsterous devices that couldn't be transported or rebuilt cheaply.

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    3. Re:weight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah. Due to budget cuts back in the 70's, many of the astronauts were 'dumped'. That's a technical term meaning "administered a strict regimen of prune juice and exlax for the week prior to launch".

    4. Re:weight? by FortKnox · · Score: 1

      Isn't like 1lb over $1,000.00 of fuel? anyone got stats on this??

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    5. Re:weight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to this it takes $10,000USD to lift 1 lb into space.

    6. Re:weight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um...weight is important for *take off*. In space it is meaningless, yes, but getting off the ground is the hard part.

    7. Re:weight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Most of the fuel is not used for lift, but used to reach orbital velocity according to the formula:

      E = 1/2 * m * v^2

      joules = 1/2 * (0.0685*slug) * (1.60934/3.6*mph)^2

    8. Re:weight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unbelievable site!

    9. Re:weight? by eAndroid · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Won't it weigh 0 lb in space? Surely you meant to give its mass in slugs.

      Slugs? Isn't that an archaic unit of measure? Surely you meant to ask for its mass in Newtons.

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    10. Re:weight? by Jantastic · · Score: 1

      I think his point has something to do with saying something about the m(ass) [kg/lbs-whatever] which is considered relatively constant compared to some large object (earth, moon), and the weight, which is a varying force, which you could consider 0[Newton], if you choose appropriate objects, -viewpoints and comparable movement (nearly same orbit).

      Like mobile Lego in a space station, or you and the earth when you jump, looking from the space station and earth resp.

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    11. Re:weight? by Joseph+Vigneau · · Score: 1
      >Won't it weigh 0 lb in space? Surely you meant to give its mass in slugs.


      Slugs? Isn't that an archaic unit of measure? Surely you meant to ask for its mass in Newtons.


      Newtons? Isn't that a unit of force? Surely you meant to ask for its mass in grams.

    12. Re:weight? by AaronStJ · · Score: 2, Informative

      Slugs? Isn't that an archaic unit of measure? Surely you meant to ask for its mass in Newtons

      Good Lord no. First of all, the SI until for mass is the (kilo)gram, the newton is a measure of weight. Second, the slug, which IIRC weighs one pound in earth gravity, is a perfectly acceptable unit of mass. At least, as acceptable as imperial units get

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    13. Re:weight? by nuetrino · · Score: 1

      It will have some weight in LEO. Not much, but certainly more than 0.

    14. Re:weight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      wow, when is the U.S. gonna get its head out of it's ass and abandon the imperial system. slugs, miles, ounces, gallons... what a waste of time and neurons.

      hello? metric?

    15. Re:weight? by treellama · · Score: 1
      It will?

      LEO is still free fall isn't it?

    16. Re:weight? by sharkey · · Score: 1

      Surely you meant to give its mass in slugs.

      Well, what is the mass of one slug? My garden has slugs of quite diverse sizes, and I doubt all of them have identical mass.

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    17. Re:weight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right on.
      ACFM - ACs for metric.
      E==mCC by the way..

    18. Re:weight? by Bob+Uhl · · Score: 2

      Thanks to units (a great little prog, even if it does believe that the metre is a fundamental unit), I am happy to report that the 3 lb toy masses all of .0932 slugs.

    19. Re:weight? by Nos. · · Score: 2
      Mass and weight are two related but very different aspects of an item. On Earth they are the same, but in 0g, weight = 0, while mass remains the same.

      So for example, if you weigh 220lbs (equivalent to a mass of 100Kg) on Earth, and we're to travel to a moon or plaent with .5g, your weight would be 110lbs, while your mass would stay at 100Kg.

    20. Re:weight? by eAndroid · · Score: 0, Troll

      Dammit, you're right. I meant just the opposite.

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    21. Re:weight? by 13013dobbs · · Score: 0

      I understand what the posters point was. :) But, no one cares what it weighs in space; at least not as much as they care about what it weighs on Earth.

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    22. Re:weight? by eAndroid · · Score: 1

      How acceptable do imperial unites get? They've been rejected by the British already and they invented the units. I don't mean to beat a dead dog but dammit if the US is so advanced and whatnot why do they hold on so fiercely to something so outdated?

      It's probably all part of a large conspiracy by the British back at the Boston Tea Party.

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    23. Re:weight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can suck on my 10 INCH cock at 80 MILES PER HOUR, until you extract exactly 1/2 GALLON from my two 5 POUND balls. Then i will shove a four FOOT salami up your cavernous 80 CUBIC INCH ass. The friction might generate up to 130 degrees FARENHEIT (sp?) of heat, so you should have a few OUNCES of vaseline ready. It'll hurt, so you'll probably run around for a few YARDS and scream like a little girl, fortunately though we'll be doing this in a few ACRES of woods.

    24. Re:weight? by rossdee · · Score: 1

      If it was in orbit on its own (ie not in the spacecraft or station) then it could have zero gravity.

      The Space station has mass, and as such its environment is called microgravity rather than zero gravity.

      Of course te affect is just barely meadureable.

    25. Re:weight? by chrisatslashdot · · Score: 1

      [1 lbm(pound mass)]/[32.2 ft/2^2]=1 slug

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    26. Re:weight? by ashp · · Score: 1

      It depends. African or European?

      [Ow, don't hurt me!]

    27. Re:weight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is no such thing as zero gravity. The gravitational effect is just so minute in the depths of free space that for all intents and purposes, gravity is null.

    28. Re:weight? by sharkey · · Score: 2

      Tell me, what is the average ground-speed of an unsalted slug?

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    29. Re:weight? by uigrad_2000 · · Score: 1
      Second, the slug, which IIRC weighs one pound in earth gravity, is a perfectly acceptable unit of mass.

      I hope you don't live in the U.S. Every respectable U.S. geek should know that a slug of matter weighs 32.8 pounds at sea level.

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    30. Re:weight? by theancient2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have never, ever heard of this unit of measure called a "slug." Wouldn't NASA use the metric system, anyway? I was under the impression that the scientific community in the U.S. often uses metric measurements, so they can communicate with the rest of the world. (After all, there's no point in doing research if the rest of the planet can't understand your results.) (Isn't Joules actually a metric unit? It's been a while since high school physics...)

    31. Re:weight? by uberdave · · Score: 1
      BZZZT What consolation prize do we have for our contestant, Vanna?


      An object's "weight" (force due to gravity) when it is in orbit is considerable. The force due to gravity is F=Gm1m2/r^2 where G is the universal gravitational constant, m1 and m2 are two masses, an r is the distance between them. This becomes


      F2/F1=(Gm1m2/(re+oa)^2)/(Gm1m2/re^2)

      where F2 is the force in orbit, F1 is the force at the earth's surface, re is the earth's radius, and oa is the orbital altitude. A little bit of algebra gives us


      F2=F1*(re^2/(re+oa)^2


      Plugging in the earth's radius and the space station's average altitude...


      F2=0.89*F1


      In other words, an object in earth orbit at the altitude of the space station weighs approximately 90% of what it weighs on the earth's surface.


      However, the acceleration due to gravity is matched by the centripital acceleration, and so there is no unbalanced force, and thus "weightlessness".

    32. Re:weight? by DoomHaven · · Score: 1

      A "slug" is an Imperial derived unit used to measure mass, as opposed to weight. Mass is the amount of material a piece of matter consists. Weight is the amount of gravitational pull exerted on said mass. To find the mass, in slugs, of an object with weight, W (measured in lbs), you would take:

      F = m * a

      substitue Earth's acceleration due to gravity, 32.2f/s^2, or g, for a:

      F = m * g

      and solve for m:

      m = F / g

      Better?

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    33. Re:weight? by DoomHaven · · Score: 1

      Oops, I should have clarified something: Weight is the amount of gravitational *force* exerted on said mass. So F = W, and the equation is:

      m = W / g

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    34. Re:weight? by Tattva · · Score: 1

      It is still in Earth's gravitational field (a tiny bit less than 1 G,) so in that sense it still has weight. It just falls a lot.

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    35. Re:weight? by fodi · · Score: 1

      I pressed F1 and F2. Now what?

    36. Re:weight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Real engineers don't use Imperial units. (Except for the engineers at Locheed... and look where it got them! Anybody remember the Mars Climate Orbiter?)

    37. Re:weight? by Afrosheen · · Score: 1

      Laden or unladen?

    38. Re:weight? by GospelHead821 · · Score: 1

      Alas, being an engineering student in the USA, I am forced to use Imperial units as far as some of the questions in the textbooks actually force you to use them (unless you want to convert to SI, solve, then convert back, just for the fun of it). Although from what I understand it, even if the SI unit for pressure is (Pa)scals, the global scientific/engineering community still fully recognizes (atm)ospheres, mmHg (milimetres mercury), and psi (pounds per square inch). I find this incredibly annoying, because it makes it so that I have to work with 3 or 4 different versions of the ideal gass constant.

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    39. Re:weight? by sharkey · · Score: 2

      Wouldn't a laden slug be a snail?

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    40. Re:weight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mixing units like that is very bad form.

    41. Re:weight? by JJorda · · Score: 1

      [1 lbm(pound mass)]/[32.2 ft/2^2]=1 slug

      nono, [1 lbf(pound force]/[32.2 ft/2^2]=1 slug
      [1 lbm(pound mass)]*[32.2]=1 slug

    42. Re:weight? by JJorda · · Score: 1

      ...the global scientific/engineering community still fully recognizes (atm)ospheres, mmHg (milimetres mercury), and psi (pounds per square inch).

      Actually, mmHg is still metric(millimeters isn't an imperial unit). You're thinking of inHg, or inches of mercury.

    43. Re:weight? by GospelHead821 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, mm is a SI friendly unit, but the use of mercury is totally arbitrary. I'd rather use a Pascal anyday, even though most of SI was initially based on water. (ie: a gram is the mass of distilled water in 1 cubic centimetre...or was it the other way around?) Although yes, inHg is much worse than mmHg. Regardless, I'd rather just leave mercury _out_ of the picture.

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    44. Re:weight? by ThatComputerGuy · · Score: 1

      Could be like that craaazy "dark matter" stuff from Futurama. "Every pound of it weighs 10,000 pounds!"

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    45. Re:weight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      do you mean the Mars Core Detonator?

    46. Re:weight? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not very good at spelling, and I don't care!


      A shame, since the ability to communicate your thoughts and ideas effectively can be one of your greatest advantages. S'allright, I'm sure that MSCE you're working on will do you just as much good.

    47. Re:weight? by arkanes · · Score: 1

      Not if it's a bin Laden. Then it's a worm.

    48. Re:weight? by abrett · · Score: 1

      Without meaning to be pedantic, on Earth weight and mass are most definitely NOT the same. Whilst the terms are often used interchangeably in common parlance, they actually refer to completely different properties. It's a bit like me saying "At 60mph, 2 hrs and 120 miles are the same". All that can be said is that a mass of 100kg weighs 220lbs on Earth, just as one can say that 120 miles is travelled in 2hrs at 60mph.

    49. Re:weight? by abrett · · Score: 1

      African or European?

    50. Re:weight? by sharkey · · Score: 2

      Then stick a big hook in him, and he'll catch a B-52.

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  11. A shuttle spy? by uigrad_2000 · · Score: 1

    I can see the implications already. If this was in a movie (cough, cough, red planet, hmpgh) it would be accidently bumped into "military mode" at some point in the mission. I'd at least run all programs on the bot through a disassembler before letting it come with me to space.

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  12. Are they sending it up pre-assembled? by albamuth · · Score: 5, Funny
    It would make more sense if they sent it all up like all LEGO kits come (minus the excessive packaging).I imagine astronauts hanging (floating) around, scratching their heads over cartoony instructions:


    "Dimitri, I need a 1 x 6 block. Nyet, a block, not plank!"

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  13. Movie Scenarios by Alien54 · · Score: 4, Informative
    Why to I think of multiple Hollywood plot lines with these things?

    And to think that Halloween is just around the corner. If you have enough of them, do they try to "collect" larger floating particles [smile]?

    Side Note, Intertran is also decent as an online translator.

    and here's a nice list of various robot competitions

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    1. Re:Movie Scenarios by James+Skarzinskas · · Score: 1

      Yeah, give Hollywood any news on this plot, and sure enough, a film with regards to the blood-thirsty LEGO(r) beast will be out. Then JonKatz will give a completely obvious and cliche review about it; which of course we could have all picked up just by watching a commercial.. uhh.. nevermind. /me goes to turn JonKatz off of authors list :P

    2. Re:Movie Scenarios by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exodus 21:7 God recommends acquiring slaves from the nations around you.

      You know what, this really pisses me off.
      Every line in the bible can be interpretted in different ways. You're proud you can make it negative to impress your nerd friends? Think of something more creative for your sig, dork.

    3. Re:Movie Scenarios by Kartoffel · · Score: 1
      Exodus 21:7 in the King James version is:

      And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out[1] as the menservants do.

      Exodus 21 is all about rules for keeping slaves and indentured servants. However, there is nothing in there that suggests where to get the slaves. It's simply rules for keeping slaves. Nothing advocating stealing them from neighboring lands.

      [1] The phrase "go out" appears several times in Exodus 21. It means a slave or servant gaining freedom. For example, in Exodus 21:2

      If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing.

    4. Re:Movie Scenarios by Kartoffel · · Score: 1

      Maybe he got it a different version of the old testament, but I just checked the good old King James Bible and it doesn't make any recommendations on where to get slaves. Exodus 21 only has rules for keeping slaves and servants.

  14. uh by British · · Score: 1

    Okay, what's a valid referrer? I tried going to babelfish.altavista.com, then the mentinoed link, and it still didn't like it.

    1. Re:uh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bablefish don't eat slashdotted sites, perhaps?
      They consume brainwaves and spread disbelief in the God area and related matters.
      How's that for a anti-terrorism policy, by the way?

  15. Check your links, please. by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Informative
    You cannot use the babelfish link, because babelfish checks referers.

    It seems to me that even mentioning babelfish is redundant these days. The people who don't know it exist tend not to be the slashdot type. But maybe I'm just being an elitist.

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    1. Re:Check your links, please. by Kartoffel · · Score: 1
      So turn referring off, if you can.

      Some of my favorite browsers can do that, others can't. How frustrating.

    2. Re:Check your links, please. by FFFish · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What is "the slashdot type"? A generally underinformed, overopinionated, social outcast with far too much interest in programming languages and far too little interest in things like face-to-face human interaction?

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    3. Re:Check your links, please. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1
      What is "the slashdot type"? A generally underinformed, overopinionated, social outcast with far too much interest in programming languages and far too little interest in things like face-to-face human interaction?

      Well, you said it, I didn't. Humor aside, I was actually just thinking of the tech-savvy.

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    4. Re:Check your links, please. by onepoint · · Score: 1

      >>What is "the slashdot type"? A generally underinformed, overopinionated, social outcast with far too much interest in programming languages and far too little interest in things like face-to-face human interaction?

      >
      Yes, that "slashdot type" might be all that, but to an advertiser he's/she's worth a lot more. >

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    5. Re:Check your links, please. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      d00d, being an e1337ist is Co0l d0n't appolgiz3!

    6. Re:Check your links, please. by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      What is "the slashdot type"?

      A technogeek who mistakenly believes that an understanding of leading edge computer and telecommunications techology translates also means understanding of other technological and social issues.

  16. Google translation by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you have trouble with Alta Vista's translation, or just want an alternative translation, you might also try Google's Translation.

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    1. Re:Google translation by killmenow · · Score: 2, Funny

      you might also try Google's Translation
      Eef unly eet voud trunsleet eentu Bork! Bork! Bork!
  17. Excellent Upgrade: by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Collects random lego bricks and then builds another 'Jitter' from the parts!

    1. Re:Excellent Upgrade: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      thankyou for referring to LEGO as LEGO.

      we'll let you pass.

      the LEGO(r) marketing team.

    2. Re:Excellent Upgrade: by lonenut · · Score: 0, Troll

      He didn't, he correctly refered to them as 'LEGO bricks'.

      You still fail.

      The Shut-the-fuck-up corrections squad.

    3. Re:Excellent Upgrade: by bill_kress · · Score: 1

      Hmm, What an awesom idea--what would it take to make a viral lego robot? Is anyone working on this yet?

    4. Re:Excellent Upgrade: by killmenow · · Score: 1

      I can see it now...

      The Day of the Jitters...

    5. Re:Excellent Upgrade: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only after a couple generations they will have evolved out the off switch.
      See Mechanism by John T. Sladek

  18. your sig: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Why do they hate us?"

    Because you're a karma whore.

  19. Every Mom will want one by T1girl · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... to fly around the house and pick up all those little Lego(s)left lying around on the floor, the ones she's always stepping on in the dark when checking on the kids at night.

    1. Re:Every Mom will want one by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...the problem of arranging for the house to be in zero-G is left as an excercise for the student...

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  20. Re:ok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    are you some kind of illiterate retard?

    its LEGO not LEGOS.

    a piece of LEGO
    2 pieces of LEGO
    some LEGO
    LEGO up my ass

    ok?

    thankyou.

    the LEGO(r) marketing team.

  21. Glue? by krugdm · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wonder if all the bricks for Jitter will need to be glued together to keep him from 'accidentally' coming apart?

  22. Spam at ./ - finally. by rocksh · · Score: 0, Troll

    It seems there is nothing credible in this report... And who is michael anyway?

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  23. Also from the Lego Department by ardmhacha · · Score: 3, Redundant

    In the New York Times today there is an article about a guy who built a robot out of Lego which can solve the Rubik's Cube.

    It uses a lego-cam linked to a computer with color recognition software and a rubiks solving program, but all the mechanical bits to physically manipulate the cube are Lego.

    Stumped by Rubik's Cube? Let the Lego Robot Solve It

    1. Re:Also from the Lego Department by Cheeko · · Score: 1

      And this was posted a week or two ago.....old news

    2. Re:Also from the Lego Department by jeff67 · · Score: 1

      Try over a month ago:
      http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/09/07/0133 24 8&mode=thread
      But NYT just reported on it today.

    3. Re:Also from the Lego Department by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about a -1, Redundant? Jeez, moderators should be required to *read* slashdot. Check the other replies to the parent to see why.

  24. Re:Translated via a silly Machine by big_hairy_mama · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Impulse drive", eh? These mindstorms are more advanced than I thought...

  25. Indeed, by jon323456 · · Score: 1

    "The two Tueftler live in the control center in Moscow will see the start of their robot to the acid test in the universe (uba)"

    An excellent translation.

  26. Fun Toys in Space by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Funny

    If I was going to take something fun into space, it would be one of those battery-powered traveller fans -- just the thing for flying around the inside of Alpha or the shuttle. (Outside it would be rather pointless, of course. :^) Could be useful for collecting loose potato chips too!

    Reversing the battery will change the fan from a pusher into a puller prop.

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    1. Re:Fun Toys in Space by McSpew · · Score: 2

      Could be useful for collecting loose potato chips too!

      <Simpsons Reference>
      Oh, come on. All you need for collecting loose potato chips in space is a hungry, hungry Homer!
      </Simpsons Reference>

  27. "space station IIS" by PHAEDRU5 · · Score: 2, Funny

    "IIS"? Am I the only one wondering what son of Nimda will do to this thing? Should I be buying space station repellent?

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  28. Re:Why "Lego?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I disagree with your translation. There is an implied vigorous, twitching connotation as well.

  29. ISS is modular... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    But this is crazy! I thought the Canadarm had a few more years of useful life left.

    Hmmm... Lego-based IIS components wouldn't be a bad way to go, I think. Just fire up a case of pieces and have the crew build whatever they need!

    1. Re:ISS is modular... by freakonaleash881 · · Score: 2, Funny
      Hmmm... Lego-based IIS components wouldn't...

      It was reported today on the geek news forum Slashdot that a joint venture between software giant Microsoft and beloved toy maker LEGO to create a new web server out of LEGO bricks.

      Hey, maybe it would help the stability of IIS =P

      To all moderators on crack - It's supposed to be funny. Laugh.

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    2. Re:ISS is modular... by thunderbird46 · · Score: 1

      Imagine Slashdot running on a Beowulf cluster of Mindstorms... :D

  30. Re:ok by lonenut · · Score: 0, Troll

    Hey illiterate fuckhead.

    Its 'LEGO Bricks' not 'LEGO'

    A LEGO brick
    2 LEGO bricks
    Some LEGO bricks
    Many, many LEGO bricks up your ass

    OK?

    Thankyou.

    The Shut-the-fuck-up corrections squad.

    BTW: '2 pieces of LEGO' is a poor example. Nobody says '2 pieces of pies', they say '2 pieces of pie'.

  31. Re:ok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Translation: I don't like Lego any more. I'm a fucking crotchety old man. Nobody should like them. Blaaah Blaah BLaah.

  32. Just how robust is LEGO? by plalonde2 · · Score: 4, Funny
    I guess my biggest worry is when it breaks... little bricks everywhere, and no more robot to pick them up.

    I assume they'll glue it together before sending it up. At least that will avoid the self-modifying trojan LEGO monster issue...

    1. Re:Just how robust is LEGO? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They bring two. Then they pick up the pieces of eachother.

  33. Re:ok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course those of us who are grown up with children still find stuff like this interesting. My son is a little too young right now, but I am sure that soon he'll be asking me to get out some LEGO blocks and play with him. So, if you don't find this story interesting, don't read it. Simple enough.

  34. Re:ok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So i do you have a peice of lincoln log i can use?

    when you where young along and playing with lego, did you also trade baseball card and make model car?

    When you try and say there is no plural of lego you just show you had no friends as a whipper snap cuase everyone called them legos...

    Did you read the box of "LEGO bricks" when ever you wished you had a friend to play legos with?

  35. Just to be safe... by edashofy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just to be safe, in case the robot gets out of hand, I think we should ship Sigourney Weaver up there with it.

    1. Re:Just to be safe... by nion · · Score: 1

      And keep Bruce Willis on standby in case he has to save the world?

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    2. Re:Just to be safe... by wdavies · · Score: 1

      actually I'd prefer to send Paul Reiser if its ok with you :)

      Winton

    3. Re:Just to be safe... by Galvatron · · Score: 1

      Who cares if the robot goes out of control? Just get her the Hell up there!

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    4. Re:Just to be safe... by 4thAce · · Score: 1

      Well, Keir Dullea would be more in keeping with the movie motif, wouldn't you think? Plus if the station encounters a floating monolith he'll know what needs to be done then.

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  36. Re:ok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, here in the USA, it *is* "Legos".
    I (a Brit) have had numerous arguments with my colleagues about this.
    (And color vs. colour, neigbour vs. neighbor, labour vs. labor, Meccano vs. Erector Set).

    Just accept that different cultures have different spelling/brand names/idioms..

  37. Strength by Spankophile · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wonder how well it will all hold together during the launch.

    Half of the crap I build in lego falls apart when I bring it anywhere to show someone. I can't imaging making something that would withstand the rumbling/g-forces etc. of take-off.

  38. Re:ok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hehe. that sounds like ERECTION set. ehhehe.

  39. Pictures? by automatic_jack · · Score: 1

    Are there pictures of it anywhere? I can't imagine what this thing looks like.

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    1. Re:Pictures? by Ozan · · Score: 1

      It was on german television a few weeks ago.

      It has two big propellers on the side which can be panned and a picker arm at the front.

      Looks like a dragonfly at first sight.

    2. Re:Pictures? by Ozan · · Score: 1

      Here is another report about this contest with a picture of the jitter. Looks cute, huh? Sorry for that other post with the false desription, seems i have mistaken it for s.th. else.

  40. Wow by ryanwright · · Score: 4, Funny

    It can interact with the station walls and crew and supposedly has some light "mischief" programmed in as well (sneaking up on people, dancing).

    Can you imagine a Beowulf cluster of...
    Oh, nevermind...

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    1. Re:Wow by Courier · · Score: 1

      yeah a real world version of the hamster dance in space.. great...

  41. nNext in the news IIS station having orbital by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    problems. Wonder if the cam flinging bot will 1, hold itself together without having to be glued, and 2, the net affect on the orbiting controls. My guess on 2 will be yes much less annoying that large mass astronauts banging around, and on 1, well can't wait to see if this bot will be able to pick up pieces of itself.

  42. Re:ok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ehehe

  43. Re:ok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you still read whinny the poo books and have gi joe sheets on your bed?

    bwahahaha...

  44. Re:ok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you read the box of "LEGO bricks" when ever you wished you had a friend to play legos with?

    lego is danish.
    legos is a fantasy similar to latin for the illlliterated

  45. translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Of 124 participants in the competition also the slogan "Lego Mindstorms the last ten met goes space" to the final in Munich.

    all your base are belong to us?

  46. Re:ok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You read whiny smells poo books and had gi you sheets on your bed?
    bwahahaha... You many funny 2.

  47. Careful what you wish for by BluePenguin · · Score: 2, Funny
    If you build a lego robot to pick up loose parts, it might enhance itself with those parts.

    "We will adapt, Resistance is Futile..."

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    1. Re:Careful what you wish for by togofspookware · · Score: 1

      Like Cartman's Trapper Keeper! Yeah!

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  48. Re:Translated via a silly Machine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They certainly are if your only exposure to "impulse drive" is Star Trek.

    People versed in physics, though, have known about that term for a long time.

  49. courtesy of the fish... by vrmlguy · · Score: 1
    I was having trouble with the link, so here's the text...
    Lego robot Jiiter sweeps in the space station EATS

    (tecChannel.de) Konrad and Bastian black brook won with its " model " jitter " the Ultimate builder " Competition of Lego Mindstorms. The small robot from Lego sections and technique will fly in November to the space station IIS. Of 124 users in the competition also the slogan " Lego Mindstorms " the last ten met goes space to the final in Munich. In presence of jury protector and astronaut Ulf Merbold were explained to father and son black brook as the winner. The winner model jitter is in EATS flying around sections to in-collect, at least is programmed it apart from other functions for it. Special prices went to the muscle coach for astronaut the one sechskoepfiges team out of Austria/Germany and Switzerland built.

    With jitters the crew gets an aid to the hand, which, if it in weightlessness works satisfactorily, freely in-collects flying particles in the space station. Additionally communicate jitter with tones and light signal on its finds or contacts with the cab wall. Jitter is based on the salesusual Lego Mindstorm sections. Hitachi H8 micro CONTROLLER, programmable chips, which are likewise standard, form the heart. Progarmmiert became jitter of Konrad black brook in Java (TinyVM). If jitter is switched on in the IIS under weightlessness, it must be brought into a calm orientation position. The Z-axis should show thereby direction passenger lighting, one permanent guideline assistance of jitters. Afterwards the robot turns some 360 degrees of roles around its control parameters to initialize and can with easy thrust in travel be brought. Jitter operates with impulse drive. But permanently a cam disk in a cage is propelled. With contact with the external wall the cage shifts. Depending upon impact direction such an impulse is produced into the opposite direction. Otherwise is the robot with light -, contact and rotation sensors equipped it on its course to lead and steer are. Jitter function it is to be in-collected flying around sections, which it sweeps with a broom from Lego hoses into a chamber in its korpus. If jitter pushes against a wall, the chamber closes automatically, so that the past charge is not again scattered. Jitter reacted additionally over the contact sensors on caper flaxnesses and flips and is programmed, about on all kinds of nonsense Anschleichen and frightening, dancing and continuous rotating. Additionally it reacts to sign movements, which it analyses with its infrared sensors.

    One of the functions for the Mindstorm technical designers was it to accommodate their robots into a crate of 30x30x30 centimeter. Jitter can be transported, which did not succeed to all models, therein in a piece. Additionally the models may not be heavier than 1400 gram. For Bastian black brook, which had taken over the mechanical construction, was that the most difficult function. It has jitters taken and again (differently) assembled that it in the meantime know each section in the sleep, said so often apart it during the award of the prize in Siemens (Frankfurt: 723610.F , message ) - forum Munich. The two Tueftler live in the control center in Moscow will see the start of their robot to the acid test in the universe (uba)

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  50. Sorry... can't... resist... by theConstruct · · Score: 1

    From the Google translation:
    Jitter works with impulse drive.

    Oh, that's right. Zefram Cochrane isn't (wasn't? won't be?) German...

  51. Re:Why "Lego?" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    cyborg_monkey, just how much time do you spend on slashdot per day? You're here an awful lot my friend. Every single story has multiple insightful comments by yourself. Bravo.

  52. Re:weight? [metric version] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can suck on my 25.4 cm cock at 128.7 km/h, until you extract exactly 1.89 litres from my two 2.27 kg balls. Then i will shove a 1.22 meter salami up your cavernous 1311 cm^3 ass. The friction might generate up to 54.4 degrees C of heat, so you should have a few ml of vaseline ready. It'll hurt, so you'll probably run around for a few meters and scream like a little girl, fortunately though we'll be doing this in a few hectares (hectometer^2) of woods.

  53. Lego "Alive" edition. by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can just imagine astronauts desperate for fun being forced to cannabalize the thing.

  54. Wow! by G-funk · · Score: 3, Funny

    The robot will fly to the ISS in November. It fits (whole) into a approx. 1'x1'x1' box and weighs less than 3 lbs.

    Wow. These guys could sure cut some costs at nasa. Nasa can't fly to the ISS without rockets as tall as buildings, weighing tonnes, and costing billions!

    *rimshot*

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  55. Re:Google translation - by Yoda by uberdave · · Score: 1

    "Otherwise is the robot with light -, contact and rotation sensors equipped it on its course to lead and steer are." Sounds like something Yoda would say.

  56. Re:ok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who cares what european freaks think about it, america rules the earth and theres nothing you rotten toothed bastards can do about it.

  57. Re:ok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I never said i had such things, i was was asking if you still do seeing as you still enjoy other lame childish crap such as playing with legoS.

  58. Mostly-readable Human Translation by plaisted · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's not perfect, but I do a far better job then Babelfish or Google. Still not quite sure what "impulseantrieb" means though. We'll go with "momentum drive." Some of the words that I wasn't sure of I've enclosed in ?question marks?.

    Lego Robot "Jitter" Sweeps in the IIS Space Station

    Konrad and Bastian Schwarzenbach have won the "Ultimate Builder Competition" from Lego Mindstorms with their model "Jitter." The small robot, made from Lego and Technic pieces will fly to the IIS Space Station in November.

    Out of 124 participants in the "Lego Mindstorms goes Space" contest, the last ten met in Munich for the finals. In the presence of Jury Schirmherr and Astronaut Ulf Merbold, father and son were declared the winners. The winning model Jitter will gather pieces that are flying around in the IIS--at least it's programmed to do that along with other functions. A special prize went to the astronaut muscle trainer that a six-person team from Austria, Germany, and Switzerland had built.

    With Jitter the crew will get a helper at hand that, if it keeps itself safe in weightlessness, gathers pieces floating around the space station. In addition, Jitter communicates its findings or contact with a cabin wall through tones and light signals. Jitter is based on the commercially available Lego Mindstorm pieces. Hitachi H8 Microcontrollers, which are off-the-shelf programmable chips, constitute the heart of the robot.

    Jitter was programmed in Java (TinyVM) by Konrad Schwarzenback

    When Jitter is turned on in zero gravity on the IIS, it must be brought to rest with the Z-axis pointing towards the Cabin lighting, which serves as a permanent guidance point. The robot will then perform a few 360 degree rolls to initialize its steering parameters, and can be brought on-line with a light push.

    [The following paragraph is the most techical and worst translated. Sorry.]
    Jitter works with a momentum drive. A cam disc ?rotates? permanently inside the robot's housing. When it comes in contact with a wall, the housing gets displaced. According to the direction of the collision, an impulse in the opposite direction is generated.

    In addition, the robot is outfitted with light, touch, and rotation sensors that turn it and guide it on its course. Jitters mission is to gather floating pieces with a broom made of Lego-tubes and sweep them into its body. When Jitter hits a wall, the compartment closes automatically, so that the gathered pieces aren't scattered all over again. Jitter also reacts through the touch sensors to petting and patting and is programmed for all sorts of nonsense such as sneaking up and scaring someone, dancing, and prolonged rotations. In addition it reacts to ?wink motions? that it picks up with it's infrared sensors.

    One of the tasks for the Mindstorm builders was to fit their robot in a 30x30x30 centimeter box. Jitter, in contrast to some of the entries, can be transported in the box in one piece. In addition the models could be no heavier than 1400 grams. For Bastian Schwarzenbach, who undertook the mechanical construction, this was the hardest task. He took Jitter apart and rebuilt it (differently) so many times, that by now he knows every piece by heart, he said during the prize presentation at Siemen's Munich ?Forum?. Both of the hobbyists will get to watch the start of their robot live in the Moscow control center.

    1. Re:Mostly-readable Human Translation by Ozan · · Score: 1
      [The following paragraph is the most techical and worst translated. Sorry.] Jitter works with a momentum drive. A cam disc ?rotates? permanently inside the robot's housing. When it comes in contact with a wall, the housing gets displaced. According to the direction of the collision, an impulse in the opposite direction is generated

      Well I'm a native german speaker and your translation is very accurate. But I don't understand this principle either. As anyone knows you need either a solid underground to apply a force to or accelererated substances for movement. But just displacing the housing of that camshaft? Reminds me of moving an office chair while sitting on it just by alternating quick and slow movements but for this a solid surface with some friction is needed.

    2. Re:Mostly-readable Human Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It sounds to me like it works on some sort of gyroscopic principle. Resistance on the axis of the spinning object creates an "impulse" perpendicular to the force(if my highschool physics serves me), and so pushes it off in another direction. Maybe that's why it's the z-axis (the axis of the gyroscope/"cam") needs to be lined up first...so it can find it's reference axis. If this continues, I guess it would make a full round of the ISS, collecting bits of whatever as it goes.

      Or maybe I should wait for an article in english before I decide to talk out of my ass.

    3. Re:Mostly-readable Human Translation by robot_guy · · Score: 2, Informative
      Got it ! I bet I've figured out how it works.

      Imagine it has a heavy spinning disc inside like a gyroscope but offset a bit or not quite round (the cam disc). This would cause the robot to vibrate a bit (kind of executing a small circle) in the 2D plane of the disc (probably why it's called jitter...). When it touches a solid object these small movements (they are probably quite fast) would just shove it away from the obstacle. I bet with an another disc in a different plane to push against to adjust it's orientation it would be quite maneuverable

    4. Re:Mostly-readable Human Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it's lego, wouldn't itshake itself apart?

    5. Re:Mostly-readable Human Translation by Kyro · · Score: 1

      Thanks for that! it was really helpful ! :)

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    6. Re:Mostly-readable Human Translation by spacerobot · · Score: 1

      Hi, I am Konrad Schwarzbach, thanks for the translation it is much better then the bablefish. Sorr even my englisch isnt much better. My son end me build that robot, and we would like to anwer your questions. I can send a picture of Jitter, but it somthing about 500KB.

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  59. Re:Translated via a silly Machine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I know that - it was a joke.

  60. Babelfish pukes Slashdot news at 11! by MousePotato · · Score: 1
    This was funny...
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  61. Bon appetit by demon-cw · · Score: 1
    I especially like the part of the "babelfish" translation where it confuses ISS with the german word essen which means to eat...
    Et voila: EATS
    Even this one is wrong! More precisely it would have been EAT!!

    Anyway very funny.

  62. And it's next step in evolution by GeekLife.com · · Score: 2

    There's something a bit scary about this thing hunting relentlessly around for raw materials that it could easily use to enlarge itself.

    I give it an escape and 3 years till it's the size of the moon.

  63. are there buttons in space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    if it "interacts" with the walls, does that not mean it could accidentally (or maybe not...) press the "self destruct" or "open door" button?

  64. Pics? by claud9999 · · Score: 1

    Anyone have any pictures of this robot?

    1. Re:Pics? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hi, I am Konrad Schwarzbach, thanks for the translation it is much better then the bablefish. Sorr even my englisch isnt much better. My son end me build that robot, and we would like to anwer your questions. Till 10/28/01 we are pretty buisy because we must build two complete identical copies of Jitter, this must be in Moskow till 11/01/01. I can send you a picture of Jitter, but it's somthing about 500KB. spacerobot

  65. But the real question... by sirgoran · · Score: 1

    Since it collects small flying objects.

    Will it fetch beer?

    Just wondering.

    HAL! Get me a cold one!

    Goran

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  66. Information about Jitter .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hi, I am Konrad Schwarzbach, the bablefish translation is realy bad/funny/nonsens. Sorry even my englisch isnt much better. My son and me build the Jitter, and we can answer your questions. Till 10/28/01 we are pretty buisy because we must build two complete identical copies of Jitter, both must be in Moskow till 11/01/01. I can send you pictures of Jitter, but it's something about 500KB each. nickname spacerobot