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Black Hole Sans Donut Puzzles Astronomers
Anonymous Squonk writes: "This time, a telescope made news by not finding something. According to this Honolulu Star-Bulletin article, a black hole was found that did not contain the expected 'donut' of warm matter swirling around it. This discovery (or lack of discovery) may lead scientists to rethink what they know about the core of active galaxies."
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A speech...
I spread his buns and pressed my face forward. Jeez, what a stink! With his uncle away, this guy had obviously slobbed out, and hadn't showered or anything in at least several days. I was smelling the funky, festering remains of a good number of craps. With any other guy, I swear, I would have thrown up on the spot. But, I was completely fixated on the stench emanating from his hole.
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For the briefest time, I came up for air. And then I returned to his ass, thrusting my tongue deeply into his stinking butthole. I frenched with a passion I had never experienced before (nor since). He squirmed, forcing my tongue in further. Both us grunted and groaned like pigs in heat. Animals consumed by savage lust.
Neither of us would last much longer.
I violently swung him around and took the whole of his length in one motion. I was gagging frantically, the pressure threatening to blow the snot out of my nose. He mercilessly thrashed my head backwards and forwards into his crotch. I offered not the least resistance to his brutal rape my mouth. And then he started cumming, in spasm after spasm of salty, warm jock sperm. I swallowed for dear life, but it was too much, as rivulets of spunk-slime ran out of my mouth, down my chin and onto the floor.
My balls tightened like a vice and, arching my back, I felt lightning electrify my whole body, as load after load of cum shot out of my cock.
Manstink pervaded the air as we gave ourselves, without reservation, to the primal ecstasy and lust of the moment.
And then it was over. I sagged on my knees, as he collapsed, semi-comatose, backward on the desk. Completely drained, both of us experienced the post-orgasmic, emptiness-of-thought that connects you directly with joy of living.
I recovered first, and started turning my mind to how I could extricate myself from the situation with the least risk of unpleasantness. These incidents have a way a way of bringing out the worst in some straight guys.
But, as it turned out, I need not have worried.
As I was stuffing my dick back into my pants, ogling this stud with his naked legs dangling over the side of the desk, his cock still dripping cum, he half-opened his eyes and murmured, "That was awesome, man."
"Glad to be of service. I enjoyed it a lot. But, now, I gotta make a move. I'm running way late."
"Sure, man. Thanks," he muttered before returning to his coma.
"I do, however, have one favor to ask."
"Yeah...whassat?" he whispered in his half-sleep.
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For a moment, he opened his eyes, and exclaimed, "What, you mean those skanky things?"
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He looked down at his briefs crumpled on the floor, and then back at me, and lazily responded, "Man, there yours. Take 'em. It was worth it," a slight grin on his face.
I reached down, grabbed the treasure, and announced, "Well, I'm outta here."
He looked up at me for the last time and said, "Y'all come back."
"Sure thing."
And I was gone.
Postscript:
Well, I did go back there a few weeks later. But, his uncle told me that Jason, his nephew, had moved out West to live with his divorced mother.
So, I never did see him again.
But, to this day, I jack off regularly with his dirty briefs over my face. The crotchstink has long since dissipated, but I'm still able to extract some juice from his piss stains and skidmarks.
A month rarely goes by without me casting my mind back to my experience with Jason. It was a pivotal point in my life. From then on, I gave myself to sex with wild abandon, holding back nothing. My lust staggers my partners, and I enjoy explaining to them the role of Jason in my sexual coming of age. Believe me, many others, aside from myself, have appreciated the erotic pleasure of those briefs.
Peace.
The article doesn't say, but perhaps the reason they are puzzled is because this black hole is thought to be far less massive than Thorne's hypothetical "Gargantua". Nonetheless, the lack of a so-called "doughnut" is not necessarily in conflict with current theory.
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Is actually here: http://astra.hi.gemini.edu/gallery/science/m87/
>>This discovery (or lack of discovery) may lead scientists to rethink what they know about the core of active galaxies."
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ermz, isn't this the essential part of science? Every astrophysic I know is among the first to admit that the current theories are still based on several large assumptions, and can are turned over every once in a while. This makes it one of the most exciting parts of science since there still is lots of new things to find out and do. So next time, replace the word may with should or will.
I intend to live forever, so far so good.
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If its a very big black hole, its a really big Donut and they just need to zoom out a bit.
Just a theory
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Or has almost every astrophysics-related story I've seen lately included something like "this discovery will force scientists to rethink everything they know about [insert specialty here]?"
Is this a requirement for continued research funding? Or is our understanding of astrophysics in general so incomplete that none of our theories form a coherent system that can stand the addition of even one more observation?
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It's not really surprising that some black holes don't match the canonical form. They draw the matter in the torus from the surrounding galaxy, so any galaxies with unusual properties would affect the black hole. The article doesn't give many details about the M87 galaxy or how much research has been conducted on it, and since noone bothered to look for a black hole torus in it before, there may be other related phenomena yet to be discovered.
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Stop posting this science crap... if I wanted that I would watch the Discovery Channel or something, not read /.!
werd.
- Wobbly suns mean planets are orbiting around them, even though they cant be seen. Maybe they just wobble once in awhile. I know I do.
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The universe keeps getting older, because we know exactly how light behaves over time and space. What happens when we invent yet larger and/or more powerful telescopes? Will galaxies continue to be found which are further and further away?
- The moon must only be about 5-10 thousand years old, since it only had a half-inch or so of dust on it, uniformly and consistently.
I'm no physicist, and probably should just be reading this thread from afar, but I cant help wondering about these "inconsistencies".Please dont lecture me about the scientific process, I do respect the work and effort of those who would know answers to these sorts of questions, but once again they must revise their theories, it seems.
Perhaps cosmological inference is simply faith.
I think they're confusing real life with TV again - this happened in StarGate on TV last night.
All you need to do is cause an energy surge to make the wormhole jump from one gate to another, simple. job done. no more black hole.
If you see 'theory + astronomy + black hole' this does not automatically mean theory==relativity.
RTFA
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It is so massive that its event horizon is far enough away from the center so that the tidal forces are not enough to produce the large, flattened disk of hot spiraling matter
The 'flattened disk' you refer to is the accretion disk that is easily seen in M87. For example, the X-ray spectrum would be completely different if there was no disk.
The 'doughnut' or torus is a cloud of cool matter, that is feeding the disk. It is about just as 'flat' as a real doughnut. Generally the torus of an average active galaxy is far enough from the black hole to make all relativistic effects insignificant. Relativity is very important at the inner edge of the accretion disk, where the disk meets the event horizon. However, this is literally light-years from the torus.
Now, the astronomers can not see the torus. This means that the matter fed to the black hole is almost finished, and should not be able to power such a bright accretion disk. I believe this is the 'problem'.
Either the accreted matter comes from some unknown source, and/or some mechanism makes the accretion disk brighter than expected. Thus theoretical problems are more probably related to galaxy evolution and/or accretion disks. These are both rather ill-understood issues when compared to general relativity.
What has a black hole got to do with System Administration and Network Security?
Am I missing something here?
And, surely, it's "doughnut"?
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Then there was the whole 'dark matter' brouhaha. It seems to me that Astronomers need to formulate some new models of space and time, to account for all these anomolies, Perhaps professor Stephen Hawking holds the key to this...
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Maybe it's an anti-blackhole. Kewl.
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Statements like "this will change how scientists think about x" really shows how self centered our species are. I find the scientists' reaction far more interesting than the fact there is no donut around the blackhole.
Maybe it's shy :p or it let his neighbor borrow his donut.
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No one told me about any doughnut theory therefore I'm not very troubled...
What are the precepts of this theory anyway? That because we see some matter spinning along a plane in an accretion disk there must be other matter doing about the same thing outside it?
Or is this one not even an actual theory but a failure of matter to behave the same as a simulation.
Anyway M87 is an elliptical galaxy, those typically have stars orbiting around there center every witch way not along a flat plane like out spiral galaxy. Why to we expect to see a plane of accretion around the center? because the Black hole MUST have had some angular momentum and transfers it to surrounding matter via tidal and gravitational force? because water always swirls down the drain? Why can't there be an elliptical acceleration area around a black hole that is 3D and not flat?
Earlier today it was announced that the astronomers forget to turn the telescope on. Commented one astronomer, "We never really thought about that, I mean, black holes are supposed to be black, right?"
When will they stop fooling around with this kind of lame stuff, and give me hyperspace or warpdrives. I'm getting restless!
About this blasted hole, I keep reading stuff like:7 )
"Hubble Space Telescope observations have shown that at its heart is a black hole, containing the mass of about three billion stars compressed into a region approximately the size of our Solar system." (http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=642
size of our solar system? we could use the mean distance of Pluto to the Sun: 5 913 520 000 km ~ 6e9 km
size of a star? the Sun is supposed to be just below average, let's just use its size. radius : (695 000 km)/2 ~ 3.5e5
volume of the Sun: 1.8e17 km3
volume of the solar system: 9e38 km3
you can fit 5e12 (5000 billion) of our Suns into one of our solar systems.
The mass of three billion stars 'compressed' into the volume of our solar system would hardly reach black hole densities.
What did they really mean?
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Maybe they were right with the initial theory and someone simply forgot to take the lense cap off - doh!
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A black hole without a donut...? I'm not impressed. The other day I saw something much stranger: a donut without a hole.
The real issue here is that (see asteroid story above) we take a lot of conjecture, logic, and current semi-proven / popular theories, release them to the press when they aren't yet finished, and call them probable. Just because I base my outcome on six facts which I am 80% certain are right does not in any way make my result probable. What is .8^6 again? Finished calculating? Not so impressive.
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damn... I see all sorts of moderations happening to posts, but, never for the life of me figured I'd get an 'offtopic' for that post considering it is directly on topic...
mod it down... matters not in the big picture.
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Homer Simpson will be pretty upset when he finds out about this :-) At least he still has his beer http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/10/09/224125 6&mode=thread
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Didn't these guys get essentially the same result four months ago?
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0106381
The biggest clue they had was not only the lack of the donut, but the lack of police cars in the vicinity.
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