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World Solar Challenge Beginning

Stuart Bowden writes: "Today (Sunday at 8:00am Central Australian time) is the start of the 2001 World solar Challenge, a sort of alternative Cannonball Run in which the solar cars cost up to $10 million. Over the next five days or so thirty three solar powered cars will race 3000km across the Australia desert powered only by sunlight. The official site is at WSC and there is extra gossip, pictures and information at our site at the University of NSW. We'll be doing the web upgrades on the road by begging connections at roadside diners and the occasional satellite phone. The big problem is keeping up with solar cars that don't stop for fuel." Our previous story had more links.

102 comments

  1. fp by hyyx · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    worker bees can leave
    even drones can fly away
    the queen is their slave

    1. Re:fp by Anonymous+Pancake · · Score: -1

      do you know Tyler Durdan?

  2. My Experience With the Linux by egg+troll · · Score: -1

    I work as a consultant for several fortune 500 companies, and I think I can shed a little light on the climate of the open source community at the moment. I believe that part of the reason that open source based startups are failing left and right is not an issue of marketing as it's commonly believed but more of an issue of the underlying technology.

    I know that that's a strong statement to make, but I have evidence to back it up! At one of the major corps(5000+ employees) that I consult for, we wanted to integrate Linux into our server pool. The allure of not having to pay any restrictive licensing fees was too great to ignore. I reccomended the installation of several boxes running the new 2.4.9 kernel, and my hopes were high that it would perform up to snuff with the Windows 2k boxes which were(and still are!) doing an AMAZING job at their respective tasks of serving HTTP requests, DNS, and fileserving.

    I consider myself to be very technically inclined having programmed in VB for the last 8 years doing kernel level programming. I don't believe in C programming because contrary to popular belief, VB can go just as low level as C and the newest VB compiler generates code that's every bit as fast. I took it upon myself to configure the system from scratch and even used an optimised version of gcc 3.1 to increase the execution speed of the binaries. I integrated the 3 machines I had configured into the server pool, and I'd have to say the results were less than impressive... We all know that linux isn't even close to being ready for the desktop, but I had heard that it was supposed to perform decently as a "server" based operating system. The 3 machines all went into swap immediately, and it was obvious that they weren't going to be able to handle the load in this "enterprise" environment. After running for less than 24 hours, 2 of them had experienced kernel panics caused by Bind and Apache crashing! Granted, Apache is a volunteer based project written by weekend hackers in their spare time while Microsft's IIS has an actual professional full fledged development team devoted to it. Not to mention the fact that the Linux kernel itself lacks any support for any type of journaled filesystem, memory protection, SMP support, etc, but I thought that since Linux is based on such "old" technology that it would run with some level of stability. After several days of this type of behaviour, we decided to reinstall windows 2k on the boxes to make sure it wasn't a hardware problem that was causing things to go wrong. The machines instantly shaped up and were seamlessly reintegrated into the server pool with just one Win2K machine doing more work than all 3 of the Linux boxes.

    Needless to say, I won't be reccomending Linux/FSF to anymore of my clients. I'm dissappointed that they won't be able to leverege the free cost of Linux to their advantage, but in this case I suppose the old adage stands true that, "you get what you pay for." I would have also liked to have access to the source code of the applications that we're running on our mission critical systems; however, from the looks of it, the Microsoft "shared source" program seems to offer all of the same freedoms as the GPL.

    As things stand now, I can understand using Linux in academia to compile simple "Hello World" style programs and learn C programming, but I'm afraid that for anything more than a hobby OS, Windows 98/NT/2K are your only choices.

    thank you.

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    1. Re:My Experience With the Linux by BiffJerky · · Score: -1
      "I consider myself to be very technically inclined having programmed in VB for the last 8 years doing kernel level programming. "

      That is a classic!!! I will have to remember that one.

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  3. Interesting. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I love solar power! :)

  4. WONRG!!!! NOT FP :-( by Big_Ass_Spork · · Score: -1
    elenor.net

    I do it wrong

    Laying here in the shadows of my room, I squint up at my love. My Ms. Portman. I am sore and tired after fucking her for eight solid hours. My chapped and aching dick is soaking in grits to relieve the pain. She gets on her knees and starts lapping the grits up out of the bowl. She places her beautiful hands on my penis and starts to lick the grits off my achy piece.

    Massaging my nutsack she....

    WAIT, I DO IT WRONG!!!!

    Yanking my dick out of her mouth I throw her to the ground and shove it in to her gaping freshly fisted ass.

    "OH BIG ASS SPORK!! Fuck my ass, fuck my ass good. DEEPER, my stallion, deeper!! Make a Beowulf cluster of sperm on my back!!"

    "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of this baby!"

    I DO IT WRONG!!!!

  5. World Solar Challenge Beginning???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    World Solar Challenge Beginning
    [ Technology ]Posted by michael on 19:10 Saturday 17 November 2001


    But it's night time!!!

    1. Re:World Solar Challenge Beginning???? by zCyl · · Score: 1, Redundant

      But it's night time!!!

      Not in Australia, mate.

    2. Re:World Solar Challenge Beginning???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you Mr. Z-stating-the-bloody-obvious-Cyl

  6. Windows XP Crack Anywhere? by egg+troll · · Score: -1

    Does anyone know where I could find a crack for Windows XP? That activation requirement is as gay as a football bat. I'd also like to insert a rant how I'm justified in doing this because all software should be free!!

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    1. Re:Windows XP Crack Anywhere? by Anonymous+Pancake · · Score: -1

      try doing a search on kazaa

    2. Re:Windows XP Crack Anywhere? by I.T.R.A.R.K. · · Score: -1

      Just do what I did and download the corporate version. It comes without WPA!

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    3. Re:Windows XP Crack Anywhere? by ArchieBunker · · Score: -1

      you should have gotten the cracked version of xp corp a few months ago. no serial needed.

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    4. Re:Windows XP Crack Anywhere? by egg+troll · · Score: -1

      Shoulda coulda woulda. Know where I can find it now?

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    5. Re:Windows XP Crack Anywhere? by Pen1s+Goat+Guy · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Excuse me, but I do have to ask. Do you have any sort artistic rights tied to that "as gay as a football bat" thing? That's fucking funny.

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    6. Re:Windows XP Crack Anywhere? by dead_puppy · · Score: -1

      http://www.cracks.am/cracks/w4.html

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    7. Re:Windows XP Crack Anywhere? by egg+troll · · Score: -1

      Ahhhh! Excellent! In exchange for this link, allow me to present you with a gift: One night alone with Jon Katz, who is dressed in a crotchless Clifford the Big Red Dog outfit. Use him as you will.

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  7. Interesting. <-- WRONG by Big_Ass_Spork · · Score: -1

    ...whatever...

  8. Windows XP Crack Anywhere? -- FUCKING HIPPIE!! by Big_Ass_Spork · · Score: -1

    Buy it, you piece of shit!! Bill Gates is starving and needs your $100! Who are you to take food out of his mouth?

    WONRG!!!! NOT FP :-( (Score:-1)
    by Big_Ass_Spork on Saturday November 17, @11:12PM (#2580136)


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  9. Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    This is the most boring article i have ever seen on slashdot!

  10. No Kazaa :( by egg+troll · · Score: -1

    Unfortunately Kazaa and its like have been blocked by the firewall we have at work. :( Otherwise that is an excellent suggestion.

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  11. Hmm.. by glenkim · · Score: 1

    How does a gasoline powered car do against these solar powered cars in a 3000km race? In my opinion, this is more like a marathon than a race.

    1. Re:Hmm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A marathon kinda is a race isn't it?

    2. Re:Hmm.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's a kind of chocolate bar.

      Hmm..wouldn't that melt in the outback?

    3. Re:Hmm.. by Man+of+E · · Score: 2, Funny

      A gasoline powered car would run out of fuel :-)

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  12. The first rule of /. by Big_Ass_Spork · · Score: -1

    Don't talk about Tyler Durdan...

  13. Wow! <-- WRONG!! by Big_Ass_Spork · · Score: -1

    You obviously haven't been here long...

  14. Re:fp; Re:The first rule of /. by hyyx · · Score: 0

    We do not talk about Tyler DurdEn...

  15. Disappointing. by VA+Software · · Score: 3, Informative

    The World Solar Challenge is a race to motivate research and development into harnessing solar energy

    I haven't looked at all the teams yet, but so far they seem to be aiming to improve performance by improving aerodynamics and reducing weight, not by improving the efficiency of the electricity generation.

    One exception is the aurora team, but I can't find any technical details of the improvements they're claiming.

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    1. Re:Disappointing. by Joe+Decker · · Score: 1
      On this page, they indicate that they purchased 20-22% efficient "space-grade" GaAs cells from an existing supplier, so it sounds like they aren't doing their own geenration improvements, simply purchasing existing known improvements. (Fine by me, just explaining how I read this.)

      --j

    2. Re:Disappointing. by KingPrad · · Score: 2, Interesting
      The electrical systems of the car are commercial products and any possible tweaking would provide little or no benefit in performance.

      Race speeds of the top cars are above 50 MPH. At speeds up to 45 MPH air drag increases on a linear scale. Above 45 MPH air drag increases geometrically and quickly becomes the main factor in car performance. Teams rebuild their car body if they find a way to shave a few tenths off the drag coefficient.

      The new body on University of Missouri - Rolla's Solar Miner III (rebuilt after the sunRayce last summer) has a drag coefficient of about .09 compared to the previous body's stat of .12. As such, we should get an average speed of several miles per hour faster.

      Other major factors are vehicle weight (obviously), battery type, and solar array type. Lithium ion batteries have much higher retention than older lead-acid batteries that some teams still use and are lighter as well.

      The solar array varies from car to car depending on team budget. Teams with huge budgets have higher efficiency arrays and much more available power. More power does not translate into better performance, though, because over the long haul a more efficient body design with less parasitic power loss will perform much better even with less power.

      KingPrad

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    3. Re:Disappointing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      The team of my university (Delft, Netherlands) does use the triple junction solar cels. That should be the best there is, its still untested in space! Thanx to the European Space Agency and a very generous sponsor [~1M$] they finally could afford this. They even have a few square centimeters of cells that actually flew on Hubble! In addition to this they use Maximum Power Trackers that always load the cells and the battery at the optimum settings.

      It seams to pay off: they currently lead the race!

      Check it out at here [www.alpha-centauri.nl]

    4. Re:Disappointing. by dragonfly28 · · Score: 1

      I work at a chemistry department at the subject of photo-active molecule. Hence I have some background in converting solar energy to electricity. It is very difficult to get a higher effiency for the power-conversion (think max is like 30% at this moment) at a reasonable price. The currently used solar-cells are already mighty expensive

      So in increasing overall effiency should be focussed on lighter and more aerodynamic materials rather than on higher photo-conversion yield systems.

      There are some promessing molecule which can do a better job in light harvesting but these are still in experimental stages.
      The main focuss point in these systems is to transfer to energy for the cell to the 'motor'.
      for more info check to website of the chemistry department at the university lausanne-swiss.

    5. Re:Disappointing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a famous game quote came to mind when I read your post:

      "Information, the first principle of warfare, must form the foundation of all your efforts. Know, of course, thine enemy. But in knowing him do not forget above all to know thyself. The commander who embraces this totality of battle shall win even with the inferior force.

      -Spartan Battle Manual"

  16. Re:fp; Re:The first rule of /. by Big_Ass_Spork · · Score: -1

    Die now, bitch.

  17. First anti Rosie O�Donnel post by Anonymous+Pancake · · Score: -1

    Rosie O'Donnel is a fat piece of ham. Her show is completely useless to anyone who isn't loaded on high doses of anti-depressants (as Rosie herself is). Here is a list of reasons why her show blows.

    1) Rosie doesn't stop talking about her fucking kids. Nobody gives a fuck about your kids!

    2) Rosie is a fucking hypocrite. At one point she was ranting about the need for gun control, and then she told her bodyguard to buy a gun to protect her kids (after some wacko threatened her because of her gun control stance)

    3) Rosie is a dyke. But no man would ever want her anyway.

    4) Rosie is a media whore. Every show she is talking about how she loves her imac or AOL or xbox or whatever. Her show borders on being an infomercial.

    5) Rosie makes people thing it's ok to be fat. It's not. Get some exercise you fat dyke!

    1. Re:First anti Rosie O�Donnel post by I.T.R.A.R.K. · · Score: -1

      Preach on, brotha!

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  18. Ah the solar challange. by hool5400 · · Score: 1

    I live on the route, and if my calculations are correct they'de be caning (if 50-100km/h is considered caning) past me a couple of hundred meters away. It's such a bastard thing to be lazy. Maybe I take the coolness of it all for granted.

    But alas, i've seen it all before, and in two years time, i'll see it all again...

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    1. Re:Ah the solar challange. by hool5400 · · Score: 1

      Furthermore, I did tune the scanner in to pick up their communications. Alas the only ones I pick up is in Japanese, and i haven't spoken that for many lives.

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    2. Re:Ah the solar challange. by I.T.R.A.R.K. · · Score: -1

      Road spike strips are a beautiful thing.
      *hint*hint*

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  19. Re:Wow! -- WRONG!! by MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    I have been here long enough to grow a penis.


    MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

  20. Corporate Version? by egg+troll · · Score: -1

    I might have a copy of it here in front of me. Is there a way one can tell if its the corp version by looking at it, or browsing the CD?

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    1. Re:Corporate Version? by I.T.R.A.R.K. · · Score: -1
      During the installation, there will be a point where it will ask you if you want to Activate Windows. Then, after that is complete, it will ask you if you want to register with Microsoft to recieve spam, etc. In the Corporate edition, it will only ask you if you want to register. You won't be prompted for activation.
      And also, when you boot up, you won't see a timer in the taskbar notifying you that you have x number of days to activate Windows.

      From what I've heard, the corporate edition was made for large corps who bought multiple licences. That way they wouldn't have to activate 1000+ computers. That's a total pain in the ass. So MS made the Activation-free version for their benefit.

      - I throw rocks at retarded kids

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  21. Why the interest in Solar? by LibertarianCrackSmok · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why is everyone so interested in Solar power? Solar power is not gonna be the alternative fuel of the future, it just doesn't make enough power for pratical use. Fuel Cells and Hydrogen is the way to go. Go here for more info on fuel cells

    1. Re:Why the interest in Solar? by Man+of+E · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Competitions of the same type in fuel cells would be difficult to do because (a) fuel cells require tons of research and (b) they're prohivitively expensive. Also, people can basically design their own solar arrays for this type of race, which makes it pretty fun, and it would be hard to find an analogue for fuel cells. So it's not that everyone is interested just in Solar - in fact, lots of people are working on fuel cells as well. Right now, neither solar cells or fuel cells are really usable for full-scale practical use, but wait a few years and some organization will likely humor you with a fuel cell race.

      Of course, by that time you'll likely have read an article on portable nuclear power on Sciam earlier that day and wonder why everybody is so interested in fuel cells, when nuclear is clearly the way to go...

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    2. Re:Why the interest in Solar? by KingPrad · · Score: 1
      Because after the initial investment the power is free and the equipment will work for 20 years. In countries like Morocco with 300 days of sun per year solar power makes a lot of sense. It doesn't have to do a lot, either: run a few light bulbs, a tv, an appliance or two.

      Solar power isn't going to drive your car, but it will certainly power basic home services in many parts of the world.

      KingPrad

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    3. Re:Why the interest in Solar? by Ainis · · Score: 1

      Why is everyone so interested in Solar power? Solar power is not gonna be the alternative fuel of the future, it just doesn't make enough power for pratical use. Fuel Cells and Hydrogen is the way to go.

      Yeah, right. Who needs wind turbines, lead acid batteries are the way to go :-)

      You can't compare solar power with fuel cells. Fuel cells are great for storing and transporting power. They actually do not produce power, because it's powered by hydrogen, which has to be produced in the first place using some other power source like nuclear plant, solar cells, wind turbines, thermonuclear reactors etc. And there aren't enough natural sources of hydrogen.

    4. Re:Why the interest in Solar? by MobileC · · Score: 0

      And racing solar cars would be totally out of the question.

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    5. Re:Why the interest in Solar? by nomadic · · Score: 2

      Probably not for transportation, but I can definitely see solar power being good fuel for certain things.

    6. Re:Why the interest in Solar? by imrdkl · · Score: 1

      The question is not "why?", but rather "where?". Clearly, places that dont have alot of cars dont need alot of alternative fuel. Solar technology still has a ways to go, unless you want hot water, but at least some of the contestants in this race do attempt to improve the cell effeciency, I guess.

    7. Re:Why the interest in Solar? by mls · · Score: 1

      Exactly....


      The interaction of the Hydrogen and Oxygen that creates the power of the fuel cell would be irrellevant if not for a source of pure hydrogen.


      Until you find yourself a free source of pure hydrogen (good luck, I doubt one exists on this planet), you are going to be stuck splitting Hydrogen from water. More or less the converse of the same reaction that creates power in the fuel cell. Which, those that understand elementary physics would know, even if the process were super-efficient, you would need as much energy as is produced from the fuel cell, to split out the hydrogen in the first place. In reality, you would need more.

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    8. Re:Why the interest in Solar? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So use solar power to generate electricity to electrolyse sea water. You don't even need to use semiconductor solar cells - you can make a "solar chimney" - coat the desert in a plastic sheet, stick a chimney in the middle - convection currents form as the sun rises, turning a turbine in the chimney. Works fine, invented in the 80s. Every attempt to build them on an industrial scale either gets blocked by the oil companies, or environmentalists worried about screwing up the desert ecosystem.

    9. Re:Why the interest in Solar? by Tassach · · Score: 2
      Yeah, fuel cells are great, but where do you get the hydrogen? And once you get it, how do you distribute it? We currently don't have a really safe and efficient way to manufacture, store, and distribute free hydrogen in mass quantities.


      Using electrolisys of water to generate hydrogen is prohibitavely expensive -- how do you generate the electricty? Most current commercially-available fuel cells use a pre-processor to electochemically strip hydrogen from hydrocarbons. This is good because it is much more efficient than a traditional IC engine driving a generator, however it still has many of the same drawbacks -- it relies on a non-renewable resource and it emits greenhouse gasses (C02).


      IMHO the most practical short-term approach is to improve the techniques for generating methane from biomass. In order for this to work on a commercial basis, the cost of producing biomass-generated methane would need to be close to the price of tapping fossil methane sources. However, any commercial biomass technique is amost definately going to require the use of genetically-engineered microorganisms, which raises a bunch of other issues.

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  22. John Ashcroft confirms *BSD is dying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic



    Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin [amdest.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    Fact: *BSD is dead
    Further: HP/UX rulez

  23. Making Solar Cells a misallocation of resources. by agotterba · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I've learned a lot about solar cells with the team at my school, including why development of new cells can be a poor investment of resources.

    Solar cells have a theoretical maximum efficency of not more than 50%. Currently, triple junction GaAs cells will get you about 35% (pretty close to the limit). Such an array for a solar car (5m by 1.8 m) can cost in the neighborhood of 500,000 USD. Meanwhile, a 19% Si array can be had for 70,000, and a 13 - 14% array for 10,000. As you can see, the price of an array has something of an exponential relationship to the efficency. To inprove the maximum efficency, you have to have the money to play with some very expensive toys. Only a few companies can afford such equipment (such as Honda and Aurora) and no school that I know of has a suffcient budget. We can (and do) play with making cells, but to commit to designing them and trying various chemistries and encapsulations requires more money than we have. Our object is to make cells that at a given efficency are cheaper than the ones on the market.

    Meanwhile, the only things that slow you down are rolling resistance and aerodynamic drag. Cutting weight usually requires nothing more than a lot of thought into material selection and structural design (not hundreds of thousands of dollars).

    Aero is a little more interesting, as there are tradeoffs betweeen the effective efficency of your array and your aerdynamic drag (for example, a taller car can catch more sun in the mornings and evenings, but will have more drag). These tradeoffs are related to how fast you want to go, and the conditions of the specific race you are designing for (whether it is primarily from north to south or east to west effects how you handle these tradeoffs; a car sloped to a particular side doesn't help if that side never faces the sun).

    Also worth mentioning is that all the American college teams that I know are in the WSC just came off competing in the American Solar Challenge. Teams that did not have large budgets in that race competed in stock class, where they were only allowed to spend $10 per watt that they expected out of their array (limiting them to silicon cells) and lead acid batteries. I do not know if any of those teams went to WSC, but that would explain their use of lower power cells.

    Photovoltaic cell research is one of the mose exciting fields of renewable energy, but when it comes to racing cars, you're more likly to win by buying the best array you can afford, and improving the other aspects of your car.

  24. Solar vehicles... what they really are by mupi · · Score: 0
    Solar vehicles are essentially electric vehicles but they draw their power from the sun's energy. The cars are typically two meters wide by six meters long and sit very low to the ground. They take on the usual, aerodynamic shapes of either a teardrop or a penis and their average weight is only 600 lbs (without battery). The array, which consists of hundreds of solar cells and beer cans, takes up most of the car's top surface. All of the sun's energy is gathered by the solar array, which can be removed from the car for recharging and during masterbation. To propel the car, the sun's energy is converted into an electric current, through silicon erectile functions, which charges the battery, powering the motor. The solar cells collect enough energy to power a 2 to 10-hp electric dildo. Because the amounts of power are quite small, energy efficiency and rubbing frequency is crucial. Although, on a sunny day, solar vehicles can average speeds of 70-75 km/hr for distances of 200-300 kms and can heat certain sensitive body parts to 100 degrees.

    1. Re:Solar vehicles... what they really are by Big_Ass_Spork · · Score: -1

      and can heat certain sensitive body parts to 100 degrees.

      Ain't that the truth, sheesh!!

    2. Re:Solar vehicles... what they really are by jayant_techguy · · Score: 0

      One thing you missed on on was they are pretty expensive.
      Hey, imagine the critical fusion of hydrogen is attained at low cost and that is used to power a car then it will be capacle of moving the car speed of light, not to forget power it will give to all fields of life.

  25. ...Ashcroft confirms *BSD is dying <-- WRONG!!! by Big_Ass_Spork · · Score: -1
    Further: HP/UX rulez

    HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAA

    I do it wrong

    Laying here in the shadows of my room, I squint up at my love. My Ms. Portman. I am sore and tired after fucking her for eight solid hours. My chapped and aching dick is soaking in grits to relieve the pain. She gets on her knees and starts lapping the grits up out of the bowl. She places her beautiful hands on my penis and starts to lick the grits off my achy piece.

    Massaging my nutsack she....

    WAIT, I DO IT WRONG!!!!

    Yanking my dick out of her mouth I throw her to the ground and shove it in to her gaping freshly fisted ass.

    "OH BIG ASS SPORK!! Fuck my ass, fuck my ass good. DEEPER, my stallion, deeper!! Make a Beowulf cluster of sperm on my back!!"

    "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of this baby!"

    I DO IT WRONG!!!!



    Rosie O'Donnel is a fat piece of ham...
  26. Well by ArchieBunker · · Score: -1

    My 1984 XJ6 gets exactly 16 miles to the gallon and states the tires should be inflated to 33lbs for driving at speeds over 100mph. I guess it would get there about 4 days faster. Gotta love those twin fuel tanks. Nothing like being in the middle of nowhere and scaring the shit outta someone.

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  27. Just a tad expensive by xenocide2 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My roommate is President of the Solar Car team at Kansas State University. His team recently finished 5th overall at the 2k1 American Solar Challenge. Since he's president I get to hear all about these things. Very few actual solar panel manufacturers enter, but rather sponsor universities. Sponsorship is why the University of Michigan, near the auto industry capital of the USA, is taking their car, and why we cant afford to ship ours over there.

    As far as the actual electricity generation goes, I'd think its a bit beyond the capabilities of a group of freshman and sophmore (my roommate is a sophmore) undergrads to not only design a better grade solar array, but then manufacture it. Even if some kid did manage it, they couldn't afford the costs. I believe the cost of the current solar array is some 25k, which generates about 14 hp. That gets them up to about 75 mph max, but that eats of the batteries pretty fast.

    Most solar cars don't use the latest and most efficient solar array. If I recall correctly, the latest car from KSU, CATalyst, uses 14 percent efficienct solar panels. The most efficient are gallium-cyanide (or something like that) that are extremely expensive (like 500k or so). Of course there are a few things that can be done besides simply upgrading the solar array. I've heard of shaping the solar cells in inverted pyramids at the near molecular level will increase absorbtion, but the return is expected to be on the order of .1~1 percent. In contrast, redesigning the body of the car gave us about 35 percent less drag. In addition, the concept of "regenerative braking," using the kinetic energy of the car to run the engine in reverse and charge the batteries, greatly increases overall effiency. Essentially, research into solar panel mechanisms requires extensive knowledge in both electrical engineering and mechanical engineering, which few people have, and of those who DO have that exp, few of them would put up with a university salary.

    Yea, I can't spell efficiency, but who cares, I'm only a Computer Science major.

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    1. Re:Just a tad expensive by VA+Software · · Score: 1

      Yes, I wasn't really expecting huge technological leaps from the teams that weren't solar cell manufactures ... it just that for an event whose aim is to promote solar power, I did expect some discussion of the advances since last time somewhere. Your pyramid thing, for example; if it works, doesn't increase cost and doesn't decrease yield - if this year's car got 15% instead of 14% that might make a difference.

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    2. Re:Just a tad expensive by xenocide2 · · Score: 1

      The thing is, my understanding of it is that it does increase cost, because its a chemical treatment. And you could also think of it in oppertunity costs. Solar car has like 10 team members in all, not very many. With so few people you have to work on the more effective parts first.

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    3. Re:Just a tad expensive by jjsjeff · · Score: 1

      I guess I could verify some of this and add to it since I am the electrical team leader for Kansas State Univ.

      As far as the solar array price of $25K goes....well that's close but I think we did better on price than that. We probably had the best price to perfomance ratio on American Solar Challenge this summer (as far as the array goes). You might be wondering how we keep the cost so low, but still produce an array that makes a lot of power. We encapsulate our own cells. As far as the 14hp number that is equivalent to 10444 WATTS! Sorry to dissapoint all you people out there, but it is not that high. Our array makes somewhere between 100 Watts and 2500 Watts, but that's all I can say. :)

      No one really ever tells you the exact number the solar array makes anyway because it depends on the day, time, and whether or not you are on a rival team.

      On a personal note: Michigan and Rolla kick some Aussie butt!

      -Jeff

    4. Re:Just a tad expensive by JBowz15 · · Score: 2

      Does anyone have any idea why the University of Arizona's solar car, winner of the American Solar Challenge's stock class, is not entered in the Australian race?

    5. Re:Just a tad expensive by jjsjeff · · Score: 1

      They couldn't afford it. Just like we couldn't afford it.

  28. Learn to make money at home!!! by mupi · · Score: -1, Offtopic

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  29. P.S. by I.T.R.A.R.K. · · Score: -1
    Oops, I guess I should have answered your first question.
    No, there's no way to tell which edition it is. There are no splash screens or labels giving away which version you're using. It's the same 2600 build that everyone else gets, minus the activation.
    However, if you downloaded it off the net in the form of an iso file, then that's the corporate version. I've seen enough of them going around. To be honest, I don't think the retail version is floating around much at all. Everyone seems to want the one without activation. Heh, can you blame them?

    - I throw rocks at retarded kids

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    1. Re:P.S. by egg+troll · · Score: -1

      Thanks. I'm pretty sure I found it here at work. I'm going to take it home tomorrow and slap it onto my laptop and see how it goes. I'm not sure if I feel like putting it on my desktop and having to reinstall all my drivers for XP. Ugh its such a pain.

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    2. Re:P.S. by I.T.R.A.R.K. · · Score: -1
      Actually, my installation was clean as a whistle.
      Despite some of the horror stories, my installation ran beautifully, and my uptime has been great for a Windows box. Even after working on various graphic arts programs from day to day, it runs like I just rebooted it.
      In all honesty, I haven't booted up Linux since. I really have no reason to go back. Stability isn't much of an issue now.

      The worst that could happen is that you need to update some of your drivers. And that's about as difficult as visiting a website.

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      "Adequacy.org: Where congenital stupidity is not an option, but a requirement."

  30. Taco-Snotting Challenge Beginning! by George+WIPO+Bush · · Score: -1

    THE OFFICIAL TACO-SNOTTING FAQ
    By The WIPO Troll

    What is "Taco-snotting?"

    "Taco-snotting" is a term used by one Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda, owner of the popular technology website Slashdot, to refer to the practice of sucking off a homosexual man (or unwilling heterosexual; CmdrTaco doesn't care, and is rumored to actually prefer rape) and blowing the semen back out his nose onto his partner's (or victim's) face or body. Usually a long, bubbly stream of milky-white semen is left on CmdrTaco's face, dribbling out of his nose, down his cheek: hence the term, "Taco-snotting."

    Good Lord. Why have I been receiving emails from CmdrTaco asking me if he can Taco-snot me?

    I'm guessing you've received an email similar to the following:
    From: malda@slashdot.org
    To: wipotroll@hotmail.com
    Subject: Hey, baby - jion me in a taco-snott! :)

    Hey, baby!

    Ever done a taco-snotting with anothar fellow geek? Its more fun then trolling Slashdot, trust me! all that talk you troll with about homasexual incest and stuff got me all horny and hot for you! Is it serius? Please tell me that itt is! If you want to get with me and my Slashdot bois, drop me an emale!

    ps- Please replie to me at horny_rob_6969@hotmail.com. I'd rather the guys at VA Linux are not seen this. :) :)

    --
    CmdrTaco (malda@slashdot.org)
    You most likely forgot to uncheck the "Willing to Taco-snot" checkbox in your account preferences. Whenever CmdrTaco gets bored (and who wouldn't, running a site like Slashdot all day), he roams through the Slashdot database, penis in hand, looking for people who might enjoy being Taco-snotted. How he determines this is anyone's guess; but if you have a homosexual-sounding nickname, you're in trouble. So this time, he found you. Lucky you.
    CmdrTaco has probably already got the hots for your wad, and he's probably already been lurking outside your bathroom window for weeks with a camera, some tissues and lube. There's no escaping a geek in heat, so it's probably too late for you, but you can possibly rectify this situation. To remove yourself from CmdrTaco's sights, log into your Slashdot account, go to your user page, click on Messages, and uncheck the box next to "Willing to Taco-snot." Maybe he'll ignore you. Probably not.

    I can't stop receiving these emails from CmdrTaco!?

    Probably not. If you indulge him in a Taco-snot or two, he might leave you alone. You might also want to look into mail filtering, restraining orders, or purchasing a heavy, blunt object capable of warding off rampaging homosexual geeks in heat. Trust me, when they charge... oh, the humanity. If he gets you, and you let him Taco-snot you, he might end up tying you up in his basement to use you as his sex slave for the rest of your life (or until he accidentally drowns you in spunk in a vile practice known as a "circle-snot").

    What is a "Circle-snot"?

    A "circle-snot" is a Taco-snotting circle-jerk, another practice common among homosexual geeks. This is when CmdrTaco, CowboiKneel, and Homos get together and Taco-snot each other repeatedly with their gooey, hot, and sticky cum -- spooging their dicks all over each other's faces and pasty-white bodies until they're all covered head to toe with man juice. Roblowme usually provides plenty of extra lubricant; he owns a limo service and has ample supplies of motor oil and axle grease.
    To complete this perverted orgy, fellow geeks Michael, Timothy, and Jamie often join in, dressed in black Gestapo uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves. The whole group then proceeds to snot each other's spunk and whip each other's pudgy asses with riding crops and chains until their pasty-white geek bodies are sweaty and exhausted from all the passionate, homosexual revelry.

    Eww. Have you ever been Taco-Snotted?

    Unfortunately, yes. I first met CmdrTaco at an Open Source Convention. He invited me back to his room for a game of Quake, but when I got to there, he jumped me and tied me to his bed, stripping me. After taking his "Commander" out of his pants and made me suck him, he performed his vile Taco-snotting ritual on me three times over the next two hours, bringing me to orgasm, then snotting my own jizz back onto my face, in my mouth, then again on my belly.
    CmdrTaco invited several of his Open Source (or rather, "Open Sauce" -- man sauce) Convention buddies over to continue the snotfest. Linux Torvalds raped my ass with his "monolithic kernel," and Anal Cox used his "network stack" in a multitude of unspeakable ways on and in every orifice in my body.
    How did I finally escape? After about 16 hours of countless homosexual atrocities perpetrated against my helpless body, they all finally went to sleep, sweat-soaked and exhausted. I was left there, covered in geek jizz-snot, chained to the bed, with fat, pasty white fags lying around and on top of me. Fortunately the spooge coating my entire body worked wonderfully as a lubricant; I was able to squirm my way out of the handcuffs and slip out the back door. I'm just glad I survived the ordeal. These geeks had a lot of built-up spunk in their wads -- I could've easily been drowned!

    That's horrible. Does Jon Katz get involved in this? I thought he was a paedophile, not a homosexual.

    Actually, Jon Katz is a homosexual paedophile. He's also a coprophiliac, and, many suspect, a zoophile. Jon Katz is somewhat of a loner and doesn't involve himself in circle-snots. Mr. Katz usually engages in a game called "Katz juicy-douching" with his harem of little-boy slaves: a vile practice which involves administering an enema to himself of the little boy's urine (forced out of them with a pair of pliers), spooging the vile muck from his ass back into the enema bag, then squirting and slathering the goo all over himself, and the little boy's chained-up and naked bodies. Unwilling boys are further tortured with the pliers until they comply and allow Mr. Katz to juicy-douche them for the rest of their lives.
    As I already said, Mr. Katz is also a zoophile. As if the sexual escapades with the helpless little boys aren't enough, Jon usually enjoys his juicy-douches best when his penis is firmly planted in a female goat's anus. He is also rumoured to get off on watching his little boys eat the goat's small, bean-like turds.

    ...Are you getting hard writing this?

    Why, yes. :) Join me in a WIPO-snot? I promise I won't try and rape you or kidnap you and make you my sex slave or anything. I'm not like CmdrTaco or Mr. Katz; I only enjoy snotting on willing partners.

    What's that screaming I hear coming from your basement?

    Oh, that's just my little sister; I got her chained up down there. In fact, I just finished snotting all over her body. You should see her squirm when I spooge on her belly, lick it up, and snot it all over her face! She's such a feisty little 14 year-old bitch. Of course she's my sex slave, she's my sister. What else would she be good for? So, join me in a WIPO-snot?

    No, thanks. I'm already CmdrTaco's boi toi.

    ________________________________________
    READER COMMENTS

    1. TACO-SNOTTING is really Donkey-Punching (Score:-1, Troll)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.15 6:38 (#2567601)

      No no no, the correct term for that is "donkey-punch". I have eye-witnessed this amazing eye-popping event demonstrated on unsuspecting hose-monsters by my frat brothers in the past.. . :-)
    2. Re:the effect of knowlege laws... (Score:1)
      by AbsoluteRelativity on 2001.11.15 5:31 (#2567457)

      The WIPO Troll
      Slashdot and the Karma Lottery - News for uber monkeys, by uber monkeys.
    3. Re:Taco-Snotting (Score:-1, Troll)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.13 9:27 (#2557632)

      Oh, man that's just sick !
    4. HOW DO I GET AN ANONYMOUS PROXY? (Score:-1, Troll)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.13 9:03 (#2557604)

      TELL ME WHERE I CAN GET AN ANONYMOUS proxy please WIPO Troll. Maybe later i will join you in a snotting at my place. ;P
    5. Re:Taco-Snottage!?!?!? (Score:-1, Offtopic)
      by vikool on 2001.11.13 7:43 (#2557495)

      what is this bull shit,i feel offened that some people feel so so senseless to post stuff like these esp when such a tragic incident has occured
    6. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1)
      by I.T.R.A.R.K. on 2001.11.11 22:38 (#2551890)

      Where the fuck do I sign up?!

      - I throw rocks at retarded kids

      "Adequacy.org: Where congenital stupidity is not an option, but a requirement."
    7. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1, Troll)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 21:53 (#2551753)

      this shit is hilarious..keep up the good work.
    8. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1, Offtopic)
      by rockwood on 2001.11.11 21:49 (#2551746)

      OMG! That is the most disgusting thing I have ever heard! WHo in their right mind would sit down and waste the time to construct such a replusive story. I guess I'll be skipping lunch and dinner today.. and possibly tomorrow also. The game doesn't affect reality. Reality affects the game.
    9. Re:Ban this! It's disgusting!! (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 14:43 (#2550701)

      dude, this is crap-flood material if i ever saw it.
      duuuuuuuuudddddddddddddeeeeeeeee.
    10. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Flamebait)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 8:16 (#2550266)

      horny_rob_6969@hotmail.com

      Ah, so that's what the alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.horny-rob newsgroup is about!
    11. MOD THIS UP PLEASE!!! (Score:-1)
      by egg troll on 2001.11.11 5:34 (#2550024)

      +5, Arousing

      For more info check out this /. article
    12. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Offtopic)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 4:39 (#2549891)

      WINNER>
    13. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Offtopic)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 4:37 (#2549887)

      I love you. Why do you use your bitchslapped account, rather than signing up for a new account to post at +1 before getting bitchslapped by the censors here? I guess I should speak for myself, but I don't want to log out and lose all my slashdot customization properties, nor do I want to lose my 50 karma yet.
    14. Re:On Taco-Snotting (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.09 9:19 (#2542412)

      you fucking rock! right down to the expanded cvs id!

      WIPO trolls > linux

    ________________________________________

    $Id: tacosnotting.html,v 1.7 2001/11/16 03:10:48 wipo Exp $
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    Crapflooder Associates
    Slashdot.org

  31. Re:fp; Re:The first rule of /. by dead_puppy · · Score: -1

    Taco gets me a job as a fellatio boy, after that Taco's pushing a cock in my mouth and saying, the first step to eternal gayness is you have to suck dick. For a long time, though, Taco and I were best friends. Faggots and little boys are always asking, did I know about CmdrTaco.

    The gaunt shaft of Taco's cock pressed against the front of my teeth, Taco says, "We really aren't really gay."

    With my tongue I can feel the pustulating sores we got from large gay german lunix fags. Most epidemics of genital herpes is caused by pustulating sores that come in contact with mucous membranes of multiple homosexual partners. To have a Taco-snotting without herpes, you just lance and drain the sores into a cup. You lance a lot of sores. This allows the herpes to escape and slows down the spread of genital herpes to below the epidemic threshold.

    You lance the sores the wrong way and Taco's cock will shrivel up and die.

    "This isn't really gayness," Taco says. "We'll be legend. We won't get AIDS."

    I tongue the slender cock into my cheek and say, Taco, you're thinking of Liberace.

    The building we're standing on won't be here in ten minutes. You take a 98-percent stock drop of VA Lunix^H^H^H^H^HSoftware and add the stock drop to the fact that child-rapist ESR and Larry Augustin can't run a laundromat, yet alone a software company. You have a recipe for failure.

    I know this because Taco knows this.

    Mix the failure of LNUX with the current economic situation, and you have a nice case of FuckedCompany. A lot of folks take the failure of LNUX and add to that the fact that RMS hasn't showered in decades to attribute to the unpopularity of Slashdot. This is true. Some folks, they argue that it is the fancy-lad attitude of Linus Torvalds that is such a turn off to Slashdot. This is true, also.

    So Taco and I are on top of the VA Lunix^H^H^H^H^HSoftware Building with a cock stuck in my mouth, and we hear glass breaking. Look over the edge. It's CowboyNeal, jumping after a Twinkie that fell off the sill. This is the world's fattest man, and an ass this fat will always get his twinkie...



    Part Two of /Club to come soon...

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    root> man -k lunix heterosexuality hygiene
    nothing appropriate
    root>
  32. Duh! by egg+troll · · Score: -1

    I just realized this would've been a perfect "Ask Slashdot" question. I'm going to go submit it.

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  33. WIPO speaks the truth by dead_puppy · · Score: -1

    Here is an e-mail I received a week ago:


    From: malda@slashdot.org [mailto]
    To: puppy_dead@hotmail.com
    Subject: were where you last friday? :(


    I thought we where supposed to meet at Backdoor's at 8-ish, sugar-lips? You could've at least told me that you could'nt make it! I was even in my favorite pink skirt for you, honey-cup... next time, you could be more considarite and tell me you cant come... bastard.

    --
    CmdrTaco (malda@slashdot.org [mailto])

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    root> man -k lunix heterosexuality hygiene
    nothing appropriate
    root>
  34. ASK SLASHDOT - Microsoft, Christmas Cheer by egg+troll · · Score: -1

    I've got a copy of Windows XP. Unfortunately I didn't really *buy* it per se. Since Slashdot is known for its hatred of Microsoft and its promotion of free (as in love) software, I figured this is the ideal forum to pose my question: Where can I get a crack for Windows XP? Since most Slashdot readers use Windows and only give lip service to Linux, I believe that this question will help out the majority of your readership. Not only that, but it will be a major blow against Microsoft and it will continue the glorification of Communism that many Open Source visionaries have championed.

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  35. morpheus by ArchieBunker · · Score: -1

    its probably your best chance. make sure and do a virus scan first! i don't trust a lot of that shit.

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    Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
  36. don't mention it by dead_puppy · · Score: -1

    that link was free (as in AIDS)

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    root> man -k lunix heterosexuality hygiene
    nothing appropriate
    root>
  37. MY STUDY by mark+knopfler+69 · · Score: -1

    Through my painstaking yet thorough investigation, I have come up with 2 undeniable facts:

    1) The total number of articles posted on Slashdot during the weekend is the same as during the weekdays, if not more so, yet ...
    2) The total number of trolls and flamebaits goes down while the total number of "quality" posts increases

    This leads me to the following conclusion:

    "People who take Slashdot seriously are faggots with no social lives."

    From my study, I have deduced that "Trolls" and "Flamebaiters" enjoy the following benefits:

    1) Interaction/Intercourse with females
    2) Frequent alcohol use
    3) Potentially frequent recreational drug use
    4) Attendance to informal get-togethers with peers (sometimes called "parties")
    5) Ability to make social connections with others (sometimes called "friends")
    6) Not getting benefitee's ass kicked after school

    While those who take Slashdot seriously suffer from the following social stigmas:

    1) Pasty white skin
    2) Acne
    3) Premature ejaculation (more often than not, this ejaculation is made within a blow-up girlfriend, while the probability that a Slashdotter would get any "play" is measurable only by tiny quantum corrections)
    4) BO

    Conclusion: Trolling and flamebaiting Slashdot and the faggots who regularly post there is not only beneficial, but is necessary to draw the line between those who are faggoty geeks (+4, +5 Interesting/Insightful/Funny) to those who are "cool" (flamebaiters/trolls).

  38. The paradox of solar-powered cars by vlad_petric · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In order to be acceptable from a consumer's point of view, such a car would have to have batteries ... Even in a desert you still wouldn't want to be limited to day-only driving.

    Batteries on the other hand are very heavy. They account for more than 50% of the weight of a regular electric car. The energy required to move the batteries makes such a solar-powered car infeasible.

    As mentioned in another post, most of the teams only improved on aerodynamics & weight. So, I'm asking: what's the point of this competition ?

    The Raven.

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    The Raven

    1. Re:The paradox of solar-powered cars by xenocide2 · · Score: 1

      Just so you know, the solar cars all have batteries. Charge 'em up before ya race, and during the race you can put excess energy in the cells, in addition to the energy from braking.

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      I Browse at +4 Flamebait

      Open Source Sysadmin

  39. Taco-Snotting FAQ -- !!UPDATED!! by George+WIPO+Bush · · Score: -1

    THE OFFICIAL TACO-SNOTTING FAQ
    By The WIPO Troll, $Revision: 1.8 $

    What is "Taco-snotting?"

    "Taco-snotting" is a term used by one Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda, owner of the popular technology website Slashdot, to refer to the practice of sucking off a homosexual man (or unwilling heterosexual; CmdrTaco doesn't care, and is rumored to actually prefer rape) and blowing the semen back out his nose onto his partner's (or victim's) face or body. Usually a long, bubbly stream of milky-white semen is left on CmdrTaco's face, dribbling out of his nose, down his cheek: hence the term, "Taco-snotting."

    Good Lord. Why have I been receiving emails from CmdrTaco asking me if he can Taco-snot me?

    I'm guessing you've received an email similar to the following:
    From: malda@slashdot.org
    To: wipotroll@hotmail.com
    Subject: Hey, baby - jion me in a taco-snott! :)

    Hey, baby!

    Ever done a taco-snotting with anothar fellow geek? Its more fun then trolling Slashdot, trust me! all that talk you troll with about homasexual incest and stuff got me all horny and hot for you! Is it serius? Please tell me that itt is! If you want to get with me and my Slashdot bois, drop me an emale!

    ps- Please replie to me at horny_rob_6969@hotmail.com. I'd rather the guys at VA Linux are not seen this. :) :)

    --
    CmdrTaco (malda@slashdot.org)
    You most likely forgot to uncheck the "Willing to Taco-snot" checkbox in your account preferences. Whenever CmdrTaco gets bored (and who wouldn't, running a site like Slashdot all day), he roams through the Slashdot database, penis in hand, looking for people who might enjoy being Taco-snotted. How he determines this is anyone's guess; but if you have a homosexual-sounding nickname, you're in trouble. So this time, he found you. Lucky you.
    CmdrTaco has probably already got the hots for your wad, and he's probably already been lurking outside your bathroom window for weeks with a camera, some tissues and lube. There's no escaping a geek in heat, so it's probably too late for you, but you can possibly rectify this situation. To remove yourself from CmdrTaco's sights, log into your Slashdot account, go to your user page, click on Messages, and uncheck the box next to "Willing to Taco-snot." Maybe he'll ignore you. Probably not.

    I can't stop receiving these emails from CmdrTaco!?

    Probably not. If you indulge him in a Taco-snot or two, he might leave you alone. You might also want to look into mail filtering, restraining orders, or purchasing a heavy, blunt object capable of warding off rampaging homosexual geeks in heat. Trust me, when they charge... oh, the humanity. If he gets you, and you let him Taco-snot you, he might end up tying you up in his basement to use you as his sex slave for the rest of your life (or until he accidentally drowns you in spunk in a vile practice known as a "circle-snot").

    What is a "Circle-snot"?

    A "circle-snot" is a Taco-snotting circle-jerk, another practice common among homosexual geeks. This is when CmdrTaco, CowboiKneel, and Homos get together and Taco-snot each other repeatedly with their gooey, hot, and sticky cum -- spooging their dicks all over each other's faces and pasty-white bodies until they're all covered head to toe with man juice. Roblowme usually provides plenty of extra lubricant; he owns a limo service and has ample supplies of motor oil and axle grease.
    To complete this perverted orgy, fellow geeks Michael, Timothy, and Jamie often join in, dressed in black Gestapo uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves. The whole group then proceeds to snot each other's spunk and whip each other's pudgy asses with riding crops and chains until their pasty-white geek bodies are sweaty and exhausted from all the passionate, homosexual revelry.

    Eww. Have you ever been Taco-Snotted?

    Unfortunately, yes. I first met CmdrTaco at an Open Source Convention. He invited me back to his room for a game of Quake, but when I got to there, he jumped me and tied me to his bed, stripping me. After taking his "Commander" out of his pants and made me suck him, he performed his vile Taco-snotting ritual on me three times over the next two hours, bringing me to orgasm, then snotting my own jizz back onto my face, in my mouth, then again on my belly.
    CmdrTaco invited several of his Open Source (or rather, "Open Sauce" -- man sauce) Convention buddies over to continue the snotfest. Linux Torvalds raped my ass with his "monolithic kernel," and Anal Cox used his "network stack" in a multitude of unspeakable ways on and in every orifice in my body.
    How did I finally escape? After about 16 hours of countless homosexual atrocities perpetrated against my helpless body, they all finally went to sleep, sweat-soaked and exhausted. I was left there, covered in geek jizz-snot, chained to the bed, with fat, pasty white fags lying around and on top of me. Fortunately the spooge coating my entire body worked wonderfully as a lubricant; I was able to squirm my way out of the handcuffs and slip out the back door. I'm just glad I survived the ordeal. These geeks had a lot of built-up spunk in their wads -- I could've easily been drowned!

    That's horrible. Does "Taco-snotting" have anything to do with CmdrTaco's "special taco"?

    No, that's a different disgusting perversion CmdrTaco indulges himself in. CmdrTaco is usually not satisfied with merely snotting your own jizz back onto your face, he most often enjoys involving his own bodily fluids in his twisted games. WeatherTroll has spent some time trying to educate the Slashdot readership about this vile practice (emphasis added):
    You may be wondering what CmdrTaco's "special taco" is. You will be wishing that you hadn't been wondering after you finish reading this post. To make his "special taco", CmdrTaco takes a taco shell and shits on it. He then adds lettuce, jacks off on the taco, and adds a compound to make the person who eats the taco unconscious. Of course, the compound does not make the person unconscious until the taco is fully eaten. Thus CmdrTaco force-feeds the taco to the unsuspecting victim.
    After the victim is unconscious, he is held against his will and used for CmdrTaco's nefarious sexual purposes. This includes shoving taco shells up the victim's ass, Taco-snotting, and getting Jon Katz involved.
    Completely different, yet no less revolting. It should be clear to you now that CmdrTaco is a very, very sick individual, as are most of the Slashdot editors.

    Does Jon Katz get involved in any of this? I thought he was a paedophile, not a homosexual.

    Actually, Jon Katz is a homosexual paedophile. He's also a coprophiliac, and, many suspect, a zoophile. Jon Katz is somewhat of a loner and doesn't involve himself in circle-snots. Mr. Katz usually engages in a game called "Katz juicy-douching" with his harem of little-boy slaves: a vile practice which involves administering an enema to himself of the little boy's urine (forced out of them with a pair of pliers), spooging the vile muck from his ass back into the enema bag, then squirting and slathering the goo all over himself, and the little boy's chained-up and naked bodies. Unwilling boys are further tortured with the pliers until they comply and allow Mr. Katz to juicy-douche them for the rest of their lives.
    As I already said, Mr. Katz is also a zoophile. As if the sexual escapades with the helpless little boys aren't enough, Jon usually enjoys his juicy-douches best when his penis is firmly planted in a female goat's anus. He is also rumoured to get off on watching his little boys eat the goat's small, bean-like turds.

    ...Are you getting hard writing this?

    Why, yes. :) Join me in a WIPO-snot? I promise I won't try and rape you or kidnap you and make you my sex slave or anything. I'm not like CmdrTaco or Mr. Katz; I only enjoy snotting on willing partners.

    What's that screaming I hear coming from your basement?

    Oh, that's just my little sister; I got her chained up down there. In fact, I just finished snotting all over her body. You should see her squirm when I spooge on her belly, lick it up, and snot it all over her face! She's such a feisty little 14 year-old bitch. Of course she's my sex slave, she's my sister. What else would she be good for? So, join me in a WIPO-snot?

    No, thanks. I'm already CmdrTaco's boi toi.

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    READER COMMENTS

    1. Taco snotting is WRONG!!! (Score:-1)
      by Big_Ass_Spork on 2001.11.18 4:53 (#2580300)

      I do it wrong

      Laying here in the shadows of my room, I squint up at my love. My Ms. Portman. I am sore and tired after fucking her for eight solid hours. My chapped and aching dick is soaking in grits to relieve the pain. She gets on her knees and starts lapping the grits up out of the bowl. She places her beautiful hands on my penis and starts to lick the grits off my achy piece.

      Massaging my nutsack she....

      WAIT, I DO IT WRONG!!!!

      Yanking my dick out of her mouth I throw her to the ground and shove it in to her gaping freshly fisted ass. [goatse.cx]

      "OH BIG ASS SPORK!! Fuck my ass, fuck my ass good. DEEPER, my stallion, deeper!! Make a Beowulf cluster of sperm on my back!!"

      "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of this baby!"

      I DO IT WRONG!!!!

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    2. Rob Malda Dead at age 25! (Score:-1)
      by j0nkatz on 2001.11.17 22:54 (#2579596)

      I just heard some sad news on the radio -- famous queerbait Rob Malda was found dead in his Holland home this morning. The details were a bit hazy, but it seems that he drowned in jizz while Taco Snotting his friend Hemos. I'm sure everyone in the /. community will miss him -- even if you didn't enjoy his queer antics and boring ass website, there's no denying his contributions to the homosesual cultural development, particularly in the areas of Taco snotting. Truly an American icon.

      I wanna Open Source sex so it won't be worth a shit either.
    3. TACO-SNOTTING is really Donkey-Punching (Score:-1, Troll)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.15 6:38 (#2567601)

      No no no, the correct term for that is "donkey-punch". I have eye-witnessed this amazing eye-popping event demonstrated on unsuspecting hose-monsters by my frat brothers in the past.. . :-)
    4. Re:the effect of knowlege laws... (Score:1)
      by AbsoluteRelativity on 2001.11.15 5:31 (#2567457)

      The WIPO Troll
      Slashdot and the Karma Lottery - News for uber monkeys, by uber monkeys.
    5. Re:Taco-Snotting (Score:-1, Troll)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.13 9:27 (#2557632)

      Oh, man that's just sick !
    6. HOW DO I GET AN ANONYMOUS PROXY? (Score:-1, Troll)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.13 9:03 (#2557604)

      TELL ME WHERE I CAN GET AN ANONYMOUS proxy please WIPO Troll. Maybe later i will join you in a snotting at my place. ;P
    7. Re:Taco-Snottage!?!?!? (Score:-1, Offtopic)
      by vikool on 2001.11.13 7:43 (#2557495)

      what is this bull shit,i feel offened that some people feel so so senseless to post stuff like these esp when such a tragic incident has occured
    8. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1)
      by I.T.R.A.R.K. on 2001.11.11 22:38 (#2551890)

      Where the fuck do I sign up?!

      - I throw rocks at retarded kids

      "Adequacy.org: Where congenital stupidity is not an option, but a requirement."
    9. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1, Troll)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 21:53 (#2551753)

      this shit is hilarious..keep up the good work.
    10. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1, Offtopic)
      by rockwood on 2001.11.11 21:49 (#2551746)

      OMG! That is the most disgusting thing I have ever heard! WHo in their right mind would sit down and waste the time to construct such a replusive story. I guess I'll be skipping lunch and dinner today.. and possibly tomorrow also. The game doesn't affect reality. Reality affects the game.
    11. Re:Ban this! It's disgusting!! (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 14:43 (#2550701)

      dude, this is crap-flood material if i ever saw it.
      duuuuuuuuudddddddddddddeeeeeeeee.
    12. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Flamebait)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 8:16 (#2550266)

      horny_rob_6969@hotmail.com

      Ah, so that's what the alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.horny-rob newsgroup is about!
    13. MOD THIS UP PLEASE!!! (Score:-1)
      by egg troll on 2001.11.11 5:34 (#2550024)

      +5, Arousing

      For more info check out this /. article
    14. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Offtopic)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 4:39 (#2549891)

      WINNER>
    15. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Offtopic)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 4:37 (#2549887)

      I love you. Why do you use your bitchslapped account, rather than signing up for a new account to post at +1 before getting bitchslapped by the censors here? I guess I should speak for myself, but I don't want to log out and lose all my slashdot customization properties, nor do I want to lose my 50 karma yet.
    16. Re:On Taco-Snotting (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.09 9:19 (#2542412)

      you fucking rock! right down to the expanded cvs id!

      WIPO trolls > linux

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  40. WIPO speaks the truth <-- WRONG!!! by Big_Ass_Spork · · Score: -1

    I do it wrong

    Laying here in the shadows of my room, I squint up at my love. My Ms. Portman. I am sore and tired after fucking her for eight solid hours. My chapped and aching dick is soaking in grits to relieve the pain. She gets on her knees and starts lapping the grits up out of the bowl. She places her beautiful hands on my penis and starts to lick the grits off my achy piece.

    Massaging my nutsack she....

    WAIT, I DO IT WRONG!!!!

    Yanking my dick out of her mouth I throw her to the ground and shove it in to her gaping freshly fisted ass.

    "OH BIG ASS SPORK!! Fuck my ass, fuck my ass good. DEEPER, my stallion, deeper!! Make a Beowulf cluster of sperm on my back!!"

    "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of this baby!"

    I DO IT WRONG!!!!

    Rosie O'Donnel is a fat piece of ham...
  41. Why not a competition? by KingPrad · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The point of the competition is not the solar power aspect, but the engineering of the project as a whole, the balancing cost and performance. It gives college students hands-on experience building and designing, gives companies and universities media exposure, and is fun.

    Learning and fun have always been the reasons for any competition. What did you expect was the reason?

    KingPrad

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  42. Taco-Snotting FAQ -- !!UPDATED!! <-- RIGHTEEEOO by Big_Ass_Spork · · Score: -1

    I do it wrong

    Laying here in the shadows of my room, I squint up at my love. My Ms. Portman. I am sore and tired after fucking her for eight solid hours. My chapped and aching dick is soaking in grits to relieve the pain. She gets on her knees and starts lapping the grits up out of the bowl. She places her beautiful hands on my penis and starts to lick the grits off my achy piece.

    Massaging my nutsack she....

    WAIT, I DO IT WRONG!!!!

    Yanking my dick out of her mouth I throw her to the ground and shove it in to her gaping freshly fisted ass.

    "OH BIG ASS SPORK!! Fuck my ass, fuck my ass good. DEEPER, my stallion, deeper!! Make a Beowulf cluster of sperm on my back!!"

    "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of this baby!"

    I DO IT WRONG!!!!

    Rosie O'Donnel is a fat piece of ham...
  43. star wars episode v: the empire strikes back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    STAR WARS

    Episode V

    THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK

    Script adaptation by Lawrence Kasdan and Leigh Brackett from a story by George Lucas

    LUCASFILM LTD.

    A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far, away...

    It is a dark time for the Rebellion. Although the Death Star has been destroyed, Imperial troops have driven the Rebel forces from their hidden base and pursued them across the galaxy. Evading the dreaded Imperial Starfleet, a group of freedom fighters led by Luke Skywalker has established a new secret base on the remote ice world of Hoth. The evil lord Darth Vader, obsessed with finding young Skywalker, has dispatched thousands of remote probes into the far reaches of space...

    EXTERIOR: GALAXY -- PLANET HOTH

    A Star Destroyer moves through space, releasing Imperial probe robots from its underside. One of these probes zooms toward the planet Hoth and lands on its ice-covered surface. An explosion marks the point of impact.

    EXTERIOR: HOTH -- METEORITE CRATER -- SNOW PLAIN -- DAY

    A weird mechanical sound rises above the whining of the wind. A strange probe robot, with several extended sensors, emerges from the smoke-shrouded crater. The ominous mechanical probe floats across the snow plain and disappears into the distance.

    EXTERIOR: PLAIN OF HOTH -- DAY

    A small figure gallops across the windswept ice slope. The bundled rider is mounted on a large gray snow lizard, a Tauntaun. Curving plumes of snow rise from beneath the speeding paws of the two-legged beast. The rider gallops up a slope and reins his lizard to a stop. Pulling off his protective goggles, Luke Skywalker notices something in the sky. He takes a pair of electrobinoculars from his utility belt and through them sees smoke rising from where the probe robot has crashed. The wind whips at Luke's fur-lined cap and he activates a comlink transmitter. His Tauntaun shifts and moans nervously beneath him.

    LUKE: (into comlink) Echo Three to Echo Seven. Han, old buddy, do you read me? After a little static a familiar voice is heard.

    HAN: (over comlink) Loud and clear, kid. What's up?

    LUKE: (into comlink) Well, I finished my circle. I don't pick up any life readings.

    HAN: (over comlink) There isn't enough life on this ice cube to fill a space cruiser. The sensors are placed. I'm going back.

    LUKE: (into comlink) Right. I'll see you shortly. There's a meteorite that hit the ground near here. I want to check it out. It won't take long.

    Luke clicks off his transmitter and reins back on his nervous lizard. He pats the beast on the head to calm it.

    LUKE: Hey, steady girl. What's the matter? You smell something?

    Luke takes a small device from his belt and starts to adjust it when suddenly a large shadow falls over him from behind. He hears a monstrous howl and turns to see an eleven- foot-tall shape towering over him. It is a Wampa Ice Creature, lunging at him ferociously.

    LUKE: Aaargh!

    Luke grabs for his pistol, but is hit flat in the face by a huge white claw. He falls unconscious into the snow and in a moment the terrified screams of the Tauntaun are cut short by the horrible snap of a neck being broken. The Wampa Ice Creature grabs Luke by one ankle and drags him away across the frozen plain.

    EXTERIOR: HOTH -- REBEL BASE ENTRANCE -- DAY

    A stalwart figure rides his Tauntaun up to the entrance of an enormous ice cave.

    INTERIOR: HOTH -- REBEL BASE -- MAIN HANGAR DECK

    Rebel troopers rush about unloading supplies and otherwise securing their new base. The rider, Han Solo, swings off his lizard and pulls off his goggles. He walks into the main hangar deck toward the Millennium Falcon, which is parked among several fighters. Mechanics, R2 units, and various other droids hurry about. Han stops at the Millennium Falcon where his Wookiee copilot, Chewbacca, is welding on a central lifter. Chewie stops his work and lifts his face shield, growling an irritated greeting to his boss.

    HAN: Chewie!

    The Wookiee grumbles a reply.

    HAN: All right, don't lose your temper. I'll come right back and give you a hand.

    Chewbacca puts his mask back on and returns to his welding as Han leaves.

    INTERIOR: HOTH -- REBEL BASE -- COMMAND CENTER

    A makeshift command center has been set up in a blasted area of thick ice. The low-ceilinged room is a beehive of activity. Controllers, troops, and droids move about setting up electronic equipment and monitoring radar signals. General Rieekan straightens up from a console at Han's approach.

    RIEEKAN: Solo?

    HAN: No sign of life out there, General. The sensors are in place. You'll know if anything comes around.

    RIEEKAN: Commander Skywalker reported in yet?

    HAN: No. He's checking out a meteorite that hit near him.

    RIEEKAN: (indicates radar screen) With all the meteor activity in this system, it's going to be difficult to spot approaching ships.

    Taking a deep breath, Han blurts out what is on his mind.

    HAN: General, I've got to leave. I can't stay anymore.

    Princess Leia, standing at a console nearby, is dressed in a short white combat jacket and pants. Her hair is braided across her head in a Nordic fashion. She overhears their conversation and seems somewhat distressed.

    RIEEKAN: I'm sorry to hear that.

    HAN: Well, there's a price on my head. If I don't pay off Jabba the Hut, I'm a dead man.

    RIEEKAN: A death mark's not an easy thing to live with. You're a good fighter, Solo. I hate to lose you.

    HAN: Thank you, General.

    He turns to Leia as Rieekan moves away.

    HAN: (with feeling) Well, Your Highness, I guess this is it.

    LEIA: That's right.

    Leia is angry. Han sees she has no warmth to offer him. He shakes his head and adopts a sarcastic tone.

    HAN: (cooly) Well, don't get all mushy on me. So long, Princess.

    Han walks away into the quiet corridor adjoining the command center. Leia stews a moment, then hurries after him.

    INTERIOR: HOTH -- REBEL BASE -- ICE CORRIDOR

    LEIA: Han!

    Han stops in the corridor and turns to face Leia.

    HAN: Yes, Your Highnessness?

    LEIA: I thought you decided to stay.

    HAN: Well, the bounty hunter we ran into on Ord Mantell changed my mind.

    LEIA: Han, we need you!

    HAN: We?

    LEIA: Yes.

    HAN: Oh, what about you need?

    LEIA: (mystified) I need? I don't know what you're talking about.

    HAN: (shakes his head, fed up) You probably don't.

    LEIA: And what precisely am I supposed to know?

    HAN: Come on! You want me to stay because of the way you feel about me.

    LEIA: Yes. You're a great help to us. You're a natural leader...

    HAN: No! That's not it. Come on. Aahhh -- uh huh! Come on.

    Leia stares at him, understanding, then laughs.

    LEIA: You're imagining things.

    HAN: Am I? Then why are you following me? Afraid I was going to leave without giving you a goodbye kiss?

    LEIA: I'd just as soon kiss a Wookiee.

    HAN: I can arrange that. You could use a good kiss!

    Angrily, Han strides down the corridor as Leia stares after him.

  44. solar engineering, a balancing act by darkweb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    first, a shameful, kowtowing plug: http://solar42.umr.edu

    solar car design and raycing is (for us uni and high-school persons)is primarily an endevor of engineering. you can't always splurge on the 34% efficient space-grade cells. sometimes you have to determine that you don't have the money, and you'd rather have a decent car overall than a boffo solar array on a wooden crate. if an engineer works hard enough at it, and has the right insight at the right time, many good things can happen...independent of the almighty buck. at UMR we have pretty good funding (how much is for me to know, not you all ;) ), but when we design a car, we know that there are teams out there that have 3 times the funding that we do. So, rather than sacrifice our budget for the nifty "one-item" improvements, we spread costs out to balance improvements. I would say that batteries, solar cells, and the motor are the three big ticket items in a solar car. sacrificing the quality of the motor and battieries that you can purchase for a really high efficiency solar array is bad engineering. in this way, solar raycing is kind of like taoism, everything must be in balance

  45. go with LI+ by darkweb · · Score: 1

    Lithium ion technology is something that is still fairly new to consumer products, but it has been around in the "experimental implementation" field for a long while.
    the UMR Solar Miner III seen here can do close to 600 miles on a 68Kg LI+ battery pack, whereas a traditional lead-acid battery pack that would give us the same milage would be more than twice the weight

  46. where... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    ...the hell are the singing cats?

  47. Engineering challenge by DaoudaW · · Score: 1

    Bunches of comments are being posted regarding gasoline engines are faster, fuel cell are the future, solar is impractical, etc. Totally correct. Totally off-topic.

    These vehicles are not cars in any conventional sense of the word. They are an engineering challenge to see who can best balance weight, aerodynamics, PV efficiency and energy storage. They have to make strategic decisions. Last year the University of Missouri - Rolla team actually benefited from cloudy weather because they had a package that ran further on stored energy than the other cars. This actually slowed them down a bit compared to the other cars when it was sunny.

    I think its great to get a bunch of engineering students together in a friendly competition.

    1. Re:Engineering challenge by danjerdanjel · · Score: 1

      Actually (as I've pointed out before), the technology that is being used in these cars is being transferred into the mainstream. Things like Wheel Motors of efficiency ~96%, among other things, are making moden cars a lot more efficient.

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  48. i hearby... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...claim this story in the name of troolls.

    number of -1 posts: 45
    number of all other posts combined: 31

    w00t

  49. Because solar energy is free by burbilog · · Score: 1
    and you will never have to refill it.

    Modern solar cars used in such races can cruise at 90+ mph, max 130+ mph. Whoa. It's waaay more than enough for me! Give me sufficient night range (supercapacitors or whatever... 80-100 km on batteries will be enough... <rant>yep, 640k RAM IS enough if you do not use GUI crap</rant>) and such car will become my favorite transport.

    The main trouble is NOT the price of manufacturing such car. Mass production will bring the price down. But even if someone invents perpetuum mobile and bulds a car running for free, western public will never buy it unless it has air conditioning, xenon headlights, cup holders, dvd player and all these tech gizmos for $20k -- and solar car can't have ANY of these because its power and weight is very, very limited.

  50. What about the Drivers? by evilviper · · Score: 2
    The big problem is keeping up with solar cars that don't stop for fuel.


    Well it shouldn't be that hard. In most situations, the fuel outlasts the drivers.
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  51. They can not be used for regular transport. by spike+hay · · Score: 1

    A few problems with using solar cars for regular transport: 1. Solar Cars are expen$ive. You would have to shell out a couple hundred thousand dollars for a solar car. 2. They are not safe. Solar cars need to be so light that they would be way to weak to survive a crash. 3. They would be uncomfortable to drive. Most solar cars adopt a low profile for better aerodynamics. This makes it so the driver has to lie down. Also, it would only be a 1 seater. Solar cars are fun toys for universities, but they cannot provide regular transport. You could not design a solar car that would meet current safety restrictions.To meet current restrictions, it would have to have things like metal crumple zones. The solar panels needed to power something that heavy would be too large. With all of this, the clear answer for future automobiles is either hybrid gas/electric, or hydrogen fuel cells powered by hydrogen from clean nuclear power plants.

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  52. The Real challenge ... by Tim12s · · Score: 1

    ... is if they race 3000km across the UK.

  53. Today, yes. Tomorrow... by burbilog · · Score: 2, Insightful
    A few problems with using solar cars for regular transport: 1. Solar Cars are expen$ive. You would have to shell out a couple hundred thousand dollars for a solar car.

    Mass production will bring costs down.

    3. They would be uncomfortable to drive. Most solar cars adopt a low profile for better aerodynamics. This makes it so the driver has to lie down.

    Who knows? May be it's best position for the driver? Also when you lie down you can't get a whip spine trauma, can't fly through windshield, etc. It's a erognomics designer's task to make such posture comfortable.

    Also, it would only be a 1 seater.

    Why? If this thing can go 130 mph with one seat, it could go 100 mph with two seats, one behind another. Second seat will _not_ increase drag coefficient, only weight and vehicle length. Solar challenge rules limit solar cell area to the certain number, but you don't have to limit it when you build commuter vehicle. Second passenger compartment will increase vehicle power enough to compensate passenger's weight.

    To meet current restrictions, it would have to have things like metal crumple zones

    No. With weight about 200 kg and three wheels it will fall under "motorcycle" regulations in most countries, AFAIK at least in U.S. and Russia. Also it doesn't need _metal_ crumble zones for crash with another solar vehicle -- plastic crumble zones will do the trick for 200 kg cars. Your crumble zones in your car will never protect you in the crash against 18-wheeler, why mandate crumble zones against the same weight difference? Hell, there are tons of motorbikes rowing around the globe with NO airbags, crumble zones, seat belts and other measures, why these are not mandated to such ridiculous restrictions first?

    With all of this, the clear answer for future automobiles is either hybrid gas/electric, or hydrogen fuel cells powered by hydrogen from clean nuclear power plants.

    With hydrogen energy storage you'll depend on country economics and political situation in the world, like you do with petroleum. And with anti-nuclear craze you can't expect enough new power plants. We are still far, far away from building hydrogen supply stations everywhere, since we still do not have good hydrogen storage. And solar vehicle doesn't need these stations at all...

    It's possible to build usable solar car today. But public will never buy it because they want luxury and "safety" and they are willing to pay $$ for petroleum.

  54. Re:My Experience With the Dickheads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fuck these MSCEs are getting smarter and smarter! Did you go the whole hog or did you just attempt the upgrade exam?

    You are a consultant for fuck all.

  55. how about wind combo? by doubtless · · Score: 1

    any rules that prevent using the solar panels as wind sails as well? Dual powered car, with solar and wind, will probably be a little more promising.

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  56. Fuell cells do not generate power by root_42 · · Score: 2

    Ever thought about the problem where the Hydrogen for the fuel cell comes from? Fuell cells only store power. And you could use solar energy to produce the hydrogen through electrolysis.

    So the combination of the two together would be some real great renewable energy. Just think of it: Thousands of square miles of solar arrays in the Sahara, or some sunny place anyway, powering huge industrial style Hydrogen plants. Then the hydrogen for the fuel cells gets shipped into the whole world. That'd be cool, huh?

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    1. Re:Fuell cells do not generate power by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah, that would be cool! having that hydrogen supply would go a long way to solving our energy probelsm. we could put all the energy producing infrastructure somewhere sunny and barren like, say, the middle east. oh wait...

  57. a sort of alternative Cannonball Run? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does this mean the winner gets to fuck Catherine Bach?

  58. Mod this up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    QED