Bokks Linux Based AV Component

Here is an article about a new linux based AV stereo componenent. This one is from Bokks and it has a lot going for it: Plays your MP3s, MPEGs, VOBs, and soon Divx. Has standard audio and video ports, a sleek form factor, and what looks to be a sexxy interface. Its ethernet interface can take input from NFS or Samba, or the net. The only downside I see is that it has no DVD drive for built in ripping, and it has only a 20G drive. But at $400, this is pushing the line of reasonable for this type of device. Should be available in Feb.

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[Anonymous Coward]

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[propstoalldeadhomiez]

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[Fucky the troll]

FUCK LINUX!!!

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[Anonymous Coward]

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[Fecal Troll Matter]

I currently have linux installed only as a backup in the event of catastrophic Windows failure. To me linux is only good for the unix shell, the rest of it is an interminable miasma of gui's, buggy configuration tools, and tooth-gnashing frustation. I spent several solid days doing nothing but debugging a mandrake-linux 8.0 distro recently. Despite this i accomplished virtually nothing, and every time i would think i had one bug dealt with, up popped another. As of now i'm considering installing a unix-shell based command line ONLY OS to learn and expose myself to some of that, any other use of linux is to me ridiculous. Windows, particularly XP, can do everything better. Linux is for socially-retarded tech geeks with no life outside of computer-land who pride themselves on their enthusiasm in endlessly debugging their systems. Even though i still use Win98, my system is tweaked and tuned, boots very fast, can do everything i want it to, and crashes rarely (believe it or not). None of this can be said of linux, at least in my humble experience. So go ahead and trash me, you linux devotees...

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[Fucky the troll]

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Does anyone here think Graham Norton is a horny little bastard?
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[Anonymous Coward]

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[The WIPO Troll]

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See? They're taking over. bastards.

Ah well. I've got Evolution on DVD so I don't care.

Does anyone here think Graham Norton is a horny little bastard?
Anyway, I hope you're all feeling well this evening, I really do. I'd hate to think of some of you feeling horrible this evening. For example, your girlfriend/boyfriend has dumped you, your parents have just died of some nasty disease, or you've just had your nads/tits crushed between a couple of breeze blocks.

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[Fucky the troll]

That's some nice trolling there, Mr. WIPO.

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See? They're taking over. bastards.

Ah well. I've got Evolution on DVD so I don't care.

Does anyone here think Graham Norton is a horny little bastard?
Anyway, I hope you're all feeling well this evening, I really do. I'd hate to think of some of you feeling horrible this evening. For example, your girlfriend/boyfriend has dumped you, your parents have just died of some nasty disease, or you've just had your nads/tits crushed between a couple of breeze blocks.

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[grahagre]

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[goatman.cx]

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[Anonymous Coward]

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Expandable hard drive?

[mjed]

Will they be putting out a bigger, optional hard drive? 20 gigs isn't too much when yuo consider the average file size of mp3s and mpegs.

Re:Expandable hard drive?

[sketerpot]

20 gigs is nice at first. When you get to thinking what you could do with a horrendous hard drive, then is when the 20 gigs suddenly seems very small.

It's about time

[sketerpot]

Hopefully in the future stereos will move away from plain uncompressed stuff and towards things like MP3s. It will be nice to be able to fit a huge bunch of music on a single CD, called "Peter's Favorite Music" in my case, that you can play on good audio hardware, not just old Sound Blaster speakers.

Re:It's about time

[Anonymous Coward]

get an audio i/o cable to connect your computer to your stereo. if the problem is you want to use a spare computer, not your workstation, and the extra one has nonstandard audio out, whore yourself to CmdrTaco for a new one.

Re:It's about time

[Jester998]

"...you can play on good audio hardware, not just old Sound Blaster speakers."

That's easy... go to Radio Shack and buy a 1/8" to RCA audio cable, plug the 1/8" plug into the output of your sound card, and hook up the RCA jacks into the auxiliary input of your stereo (assuming it supports it). Switch the stereo to use the aux. input (as opposed to CD, AM/FM, etc), and you're good to go.

This is the setup I have and it works awesome.... just make sure you keep your speakers far enough away from the monitor. ;)

- Jester

Re:It's about time

[Anonymous Coward]

CD's and DVD's aren't "uncompressed", they just have less compression then MP3's. And I don't think we'll ever see MP3's replace the "modern stuff" due to the lack of sound quality inherit in them. At least I pray they don't...

Re:It's about time

[Anonymous Coward]

Compression is a short-term band aid meant for $1500 one gig drives and times when 24 meg of ram as a lot. Let's instead hope for a day when storage and networks permit the common use of 96 khz 24 bit recordings. MP3's are the computer equivalent of eight track tapes.

Re:It's about time

[SuperLiquidSex]

Yeah, since we got incredible amounts of space and ram now, well shit lets right an os in visual basic, after all assembly is just a bandaid for them old computers.
If you feel the quality of mp3 is lacking perhaps you should stop getting songs of napster or wherever and rip your own using r3mix.net s guidelines.

Re:It's about time

[Tet]

Hopefully in the future stereos will move away from plain uncompressed stuff and towards things like MP3s.

Lets hope not. Some of us actually care about sound quality. As a friend of mine said, high fidelity and lossy compression can't exist in the same sentence. There's plenty of scope for lossless compression in the future, but lossless compression works by removing redundancy, which in turn narrows the scope for error correction. It's always a trade off, and IMHO, we should be aiming somewhere in the middle -- modest lossless compression, while still retaining a degree of error correction.

Re:It's about time

[Phork]

you do know that is possible to use speakers other than cheap computer speakers on your computer, right? These days alot of companies even sell nice speakers meant for computers. Personally, i have one of my computers hooked up to a nice set of amplified of altec lansing speakers meant for a dvd player. And i have my other hooked to my stereo reciver playing through a very nice set of infiniti speakers.

Just Imagine...

[Salsaman]

...a Beowulf cluster of these...

ooops ;-)

Not First Post

[Anonymous Coward]

This is not the first post so you may ignore it.

BTW, MSIE is shit!

266 Mhz + DivX?

[ajna]

Will a 266 Mhz x86 processor be able to play DivX smoothly? I ask because my 333 Mhz laptop has trouble keeping audio sync...

Re:266 Mhz + DivX?

[jpyeron]

it has a MPEG hardware decoder, so depending on how well the software divx (i dont know anything about divx) is written to take advantage.

-jp

Re:266 Mhz + DivX?

[zmooc]

Well I can play most (not all) divx's without problems on my celeron 300; mplayer uses 40-50% cputime. That is with software scaling to 1280x960. So I guess this box won't have too much trouble with it...and when it does it can use framedrop (and so can you on your laptop).

Re:266 Mhz + DivX?

[ajna]

Thanks for the reply. In my quick scan of the article (which seemed very movie-pirate oriented, btw... hmm) I didn't see the mention of the hardware decoder. Having one would help, though.

Re:266 Mhz + DivX?

[Anonymous Coward]

I've been burned by enough companies to recognize that you should never ever take a company's word on "future capabilities" - they tend to lie. Companies say what they will to sell you something and with rare exception (Apple OS X is a notable one) try to sink you for some sizable fee to get what they promised, or require you to make some signifigant investment to get it. I'm not sympathetic to companies who decide to "be honest" with their customers after the customer has been screwed.

Re:266 Mhz + DivX?

[Anonymous Coward]

Isn't it 'cause DivX is crap? I have P800 which can't sync either. Of course, the real problem with that box is the crappy video card.....

Re:266 Mhz + DivX?

[morcheeba]

DivX seems to work well on my 266MHz PII laptop... I don't know if my MPEG decoder card is helping. Some other things that might make a big difference: cache size, processor multimedia instructions (such as MMX), video card bandwidth (PCI vs. AGP), and DRAM memory bandwidth (My laptop does 528 MB/sec, my desktop does 2100 MB/sec)

Re:266 Mhz + DivX?

[reverius]

I seriously doubt a hardware decoder would help DivX at all, because DivX is not exactly MPEG compliant. It's kinda... rogue. That's about the best way to describe it (it's a hacked-up Microsoft MPEG-4 codec). My bet is that the software has no support for hardware decoding anyway.

On another note, 266 mhz is probably enough to decode DivX movies fine. I was doing it in Linux on a 400 mhz Celeron 6 months ago, with about 40% cpu usage...

You -definitely- need hardware video overlay, though.

Re:266 Mhz + DivX?

[Cheetah86]

Of course... when a divx is playing, the cpu will be completely devoted to decoding it. On your laptop, the processor also has the os running and all those apps on it.

P.S. My 333mhz desktop can watch divxes just fine with no lag.

Hackability

[MentlFlos]

This should be very easy to throw a larger drive into. Unless of course they did some of the whacky stuff TiVO did.. but even then it wouldn't be too bad.

Take this device and throw a 120gig WD drive in there. Or why not even take the existing HD out and put one of those little ram-disk things in there (you know what I mean, like the kind in the i-opener). Then you can have it be totally silent and just play movies off the file server hiding in the basement with 500gig of space. (What? You don't have one yet? :) Of course that may require a little more hacking because the little info we have says that it will play all those formats from the HD.

Having ethernet on it sure opens lots of neato doors.

The only down side that I can see is that it dosen't support the TiVO like recording functionality. You need to record your stuff somewhere else, then this just plays it. I see that as my only reason not to buy one.

Goatse.cx guy, dude with a loose anus, dead at 31

[WeatherTroll]

I just heard some sad news on talk radio - the goatse.cx guy was found dead in his home this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work and/or aren't a troll, there's no denying his contributions to Slashdot culture. Truly a Slashdot icon.

Ogg?

[NewbieSpaz]

No Ogg Vorbis support though. .ogg's have better compression than mp3's and is OSS. If they get it to work on there, it'd make it even more attractive...

Re:Ogg?

[ikeleib]

Stop whining and write a fixed point CODEC!

That is the single thing that keeps vorbis from being included in various appliance devices.

Coders of the world: Write a CODEC that can decode on a 74Mhz ARM 720T using less than 30KB of data space.

Re:Ogg?

[Anonymous Coward]

I wrote one, but my gf was so pissed I stayed up all night writing it, she deleted it when I fell asleep. I don't feel like doing it over since that would be too boring. If you want, send hate mail to my gf.

Re:Ogg?

[volsung]

A fixed point codec is an issue for portable players, which run on very limited hardware. This is a stereo AV component that contains a 266 MHz x86 CPU. (I play Ogg files on my 200 MHz Pentium all the time without any problems.) If this thing will play movies, then this box has the specs to run ogg123 directly without any optimization at all.

Re:Ogg?

[ikeleib]

This is true. However, if portable players (which are cheaper) begin supporting it, then larger players will also probably start supporting it.

Got a screwdriver and an inadequacy complex...

[Cheese Metal Rulez!!]

I'm certain someone will have posted a similar comment by the time I hit submit but...

BEGIN WHINE:

Can you replace the drive with because...
Multiple choice:
a)My mp3 collection is HUGE, I mean it's SO much bigger than yours you should be turning green with envy.
b)You can only fit hours of on this drive according to my calculations which I will now list in order to invite ridicule on my crap math skills.
c)the clever sales person told me you have to have at least 80GB of memory these days and he wouldn't lie to me he was really clevar.

END WHINE.

That should save everyone else lots of typing.

Re:Got a screwdriver and an inadequacy complex...

[Cheetah86]

a)My mp3 collection is HUGE, I mean it's SO much bigger than yours you should be turning green with envy.

Hey, its not the size of your mp3 collection, but how you use it!

not reasonable

[seann]

ATI AIW TV edition. 100$
motherboard, 100$
lots of ram, 50$
40gig harddrive
150$
duron 850 processor
80$
Total: 480$
..
Canadian.
thats alot cheaper than mr. 400$ american.

Re:not reasonable

[FallLine]

So that's about 288 USD parts, if we accept your quoted prices as being market. But you're ignoring ethernet and probably a few other things (e.g., wireless remote). Plus labor to assemble it and install software. Plus support. Plus software development for their UI. Plus profit (god forbid anyone take a little risk and expect that). Sounds like a pretty good deal to me.

Re:not reasonable

[milkmandan9]

It's reasonable if you factor in:

• The small VCResque formfactor
• The fact that it's designed to work out-of-the-box right from the start--no incompatibilities or driver problems
• The amount of time it would take you to set up all your hardware and software to get this thing running

It is unreasonable if you're willing to spend the time to put something like this together--but that's how it goes for pretty much everything these days. If you do it yourself, then you're going to save cash.

The point is that not everybody has the tools (remember, Joe Average is the target audience and he's not going to know how to assemble said box or even come close to getting all the required software running--even with Ye Olde Simple MS Product) nor the time (Joe Average again--even if he had the tools to get this job done, I'd sure he'd rather spend it at his kids' T-ball game) to assemble this thing.

True--it doesn't make sense for your the "technical elite," but that's not who it's marketed to. This is a product just like a Dell computer or an internet appliance--it's got some cool technology bits but it's sold as a package so that Mr. and Mrs. Average don't have to get their hands dirty with the details. I'm sure there are a fair number of geeks that will be interested in this product based solely on its technical merits, but the intended audience is not someone who could do this on their own--that person has already done it, and for half the price.

Re:not reasonable

[Anonymous Coward]

how do you build computers without powersupplies, cables, cases, etc? Does teh ATI AIV function as the sound card as well? how much would it cost to build a beowulf cluster of these? why is there no gritz shielding included in the list?

Re:not reasonable

[seann]

is this not news for NERDS?
Every good nerd has his wholesale friend, and the motherboard had onboard audio/lan.

Re:not reasonable

[hetz]

Umm, you forgot something: there is a special chip that DECODES MPEG-1 & MPEG-2 streams. Want to try MPEG-2 playback on Pentium 266? be my guest

Re:not reasonable

[pbryan]

ATI AIW TV edition, 100$
motherboard, 100$
lots of ram, 50$
40gig harddrive, 150$
duron 850 processor, 80$

Not paying heating bills because your collection of computers keep your home toasty warm ... priceless. There are things money can't buy, for everything else there's an innovative hacker.

Re:not reasonable

[Fucky the troll]

labor? that's like a couple of hours max (including installation of Win98SE with a good speed CD drive) which is fuck all. Sure, if you go by major dealer rates it's a lot, but anyone can build their own machine really. You, sir, are a fucking retard.

Re:not reasonable

[FallLine]

Well I am not a nerd, nor do I reguard it as something to be proud of. That said, whether it has built in LAN or not is practically irrelevant. If you're an employed nerd, you might realize that your time is actually worth something. If I have to spend a couple hours putting this thing together to match its quality, then I've lost a significant amount of money.

Re:not reasonable

[FallLine]

labor? that's like a couple of hours max (including installation of Win98SE with a good speed CD drive) which is fuck all. Sure, if you go by major dealer rates it's a lot, but anyone can build their own machine really. You, sir, are a fucking retard

hahaha nice troll. While it is true that I can build my own machine like this and write my own software, it takes both time and money. While the money required to purchase the parts is significantly less than the amount they're charging for it, I would lose much more of my money by spending time putting it all together.

Your time clearly is worth nothing. Troll for the Troll.

Re:not reasonable

[swb]

Lots of people just say build a PC, but what software on the PC lets you run the thing with a remote control and has a built-in set of menus for timer-recording and other features without fscking around with a keyboard (even a wireless one is too much if *manditory*).

PCs seem to be able to all the multimedia stuff independantly but they lack a common, simple IR-compatible way of tying it all together.

If you can make all the bits work together, that's got be worth something.

Re:not reasonable

[ahaning]

Not a good deal unless you're going to mount it on the wall!

Case: $75 (needs a power supply. ~$47 shipped)

After all, one of the nicer things will be that this product is smaller and quieter than your normal PC. And you don't have to mess around with different drivers and such to make sure that it works to your satisfaction. They've (presumably) already gone to the trouble.

However, it is odd that they didn't go with a PPC of some sort, given that they're not limited by the kernel (maybe other A/V software doesn't run well on the PPCs? Nah.(?)).

Oh well, the dancing penguin is nice.

Re:not reasonable

[seann]

admited
I forgot about power supplybut I assume you'll make one anyways (30$, plus a 5$ book)

cables come with motherboard/ati card
motherboard as onboard video/sound/networking/amr (A7SVM
SiS 730s, 4pci AGP, ATA100, onboard audio + video + lan, MATX $119.00)
etc, etc..
Beowulf = price*(N) where N is the amount you wish.

Re:not reasonable

[seann]

it was a duron 800.
and the ATI tv card has built in mpg decoding

Re:not reasonable

[seann]

I can't belive this is rated as troll.
Next thing you know when somebody yells at dell for over pricing a PC for nerds, they'll will be called a troll.

Re:not reasonable

[Fucky the troll]

Of course my time is worth nothing. I don't get paid for putting together PCs, I do it for fun. I get paid for selling little boys to people like yourself.

Hope you have a great day with Timmy. He's got a real tight mouth with no teeth.

Re:not reasonable

[Anonymous Coward]

Yeah, and with a Sledgehammer you will get it into the same size as the Bokks (pocket book size). Maybe it won't be that portable with cables and all those loose parts falling out all the time and MTBF would be pretty bad to.

Taco-snotting AV Components!

[The WIPO Troll]

THE OFFICIAL TACO-SNOTTING FAQ

By The WIPO Troll, $Revision: 1.11 $

Why have I been receiving emails from CmdrTaco, in which he seems to be speaking in some kind of code language?

Whenever Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda gets bored (and who wouldn't, running a site like Slashdot all day), he roams through the Slashdot database, penis in hand, looking for people who might enjoy engaging in homosexual orgies with him. How he determines this is anyone's guess; but if you have a homosexual-sounding nickname, or a nick with the letter P in it, you're in trouble.

So this time, he found you. Lucky you.

CmdrTaco's code language is relatively easy to decipher. He prefers to speak in thinly-veiled sexual innuendo to evade the watchful (but relatively stupid) eye of Slashdot's parent corporation, VA Software. CmdrTaco's "Commander" is, of course, his penis -- a small, withered little thing that lives in his pants that only comes out in the presence of other men or at the beck and call of CmdrTaco's own right hand. His "Taco bells" are the shriveled testes that droop beneath his Commander, and his "Taco sauce" is his, well, jizz. It should be more than obvious to you now what he means when he asks you to "ring his Taco bells" or "taste his gourmet Taco sauce."

Lastly, there is a practice he refers to as "Taco-snotting" and the more shocking "circle-snot."

Good Lord. What is "Taco-snotting?"

"Taco-snotting" is the term used by CmdrTaco to refer to the practice of sucking the penis of a homosexual man (or unwilling heterosexual; CmdrTaco is rumored to prefer rape), then blowing the semen out his nose onto his partner's (victim's) face and body. A long, bubbly stream of milky-white semen is left on CmdrTaco's face, dribbling out of his nose and down his cheek: hence the term, "Taco-snotting."

A "circle-snot" is a Taco-snotting circle-jerk, another practice common among the Slashdot crew. CmdrTaco, CowboiKneel, and Homos get together and Taco-snot each other with their gooey, sticky cum -- spooging their jizz-snot all over each other's faces and pasty, white bodies, until they're covered head to toe with each other's man juice. This can go on for hours. For the homosexual penetration that follows this lengthy foreplay, Roblowme is usually there to provide plenty of anal lubricant; he owns a limo service and has ample supplies of motor oil and axle grease ready to go.

To complete this perverted orgy, fellow geeks Michael, Timothy, and Jamie will usually join in, dressed in tight leather mock-S.S. uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves. The whole group then proceeds to snot each other's spunk and whip each other's pudgy asses with riding crops and chains until their pale, white geek bodies are exhausted and soaked in stinking sweat from the hours of passionate, homosexual revelry.

Ewwwwww. So, can I stop receiving these emails?

Hopefully.

You most likely forgot to uncheck the "Willing to Taco-snot" checkbox in your account preferences. CmdrTaco has probably already got the hots for your wad, and he's probably already been lurking outside your bathroom window for weeks with a camera, some tissues and lube. There's no escaping a geek in heat, so it's probably too late for you, but you can possibly rectify this situation. To remove yourself from CmdrTaco's sights, log into your Slashdot account, go to your user page, click on Messages, and uncheck the box next to "Willing to Taco-snot." Maybe he'll ignore you. Probably not.

I can't stop receiving these emails from CmdrTaco!?

If you indulge him in a Taco-snot or two, he might leave you alone. You might also want to look into mail filtering, restraining orders, or purchasing a heavy, blunt object capable of warding off rampaging homosexual geeks in heat. Trust me, when they charge... oh, the humanity. If he gets you, and you let him Taco-snot you, you will most likely end up tied up in his basement to be used as his sex slave for the rest of your life (or until he accidentally drowns you in spunk in a circle-snot).

Have you ever been Taco-Snotted?

Unfortunately, yes. I first met CmdrTaco at an Open Source Convention. He invited me back to his room for a game of Quake and some "gourmet Tacos," but when I got there, he jumped me and tied me to his bed, stripping me. After taking his "Commander" out of his pants, Mr. Taco made me suck the withered thing six times. He then performed his vile Taco-snotting ritual on me three times over the next two hours, bringing me to orgasm after sweaty, mind-numbing orgasm... then he snotted my own milky-white jizz back onto my face, into my mouth, then again on my exposed belly.

CmdrTaco invited several of his Open Source (or rather, "Open Sauce" -- man sauce) buddies over to continue the twisted snotfest. Linux Torvalds raped my ass with his "monolithic kernel," and Anal Cox used his "network stack" in a multitude of unspeakable ways on and in every orifice in my defenseless body. Michael was there in his leather Nazi uniform, caning my ass with a bamboo pole and ranting about "all those Censorware freaks out to get him."

How did you finally escape, you ask? After about 16 hours of countless homosexual atrocities perpetrated against my restrained body, they all finally went to sleep on top of me, sweat-soaked and exhausted. I was left there, covered in bubbly, translucent jizz-snot, chained to the bed, with half a dozen fat, pasty-white fags lying around and on top of me. Fortunately the spooge coating my flesh worked wonderfully as a lubricant; I was able to squirm my way out of the handcuffs and slip out the back door. I'm just glad I survived the ordeal. These geeks had a lot of built-up spunk in their wads -- I could've easily been drowned!

That's horrible. Does "Taco-snotting" have anything to do with CmdrTaco's "special taco"?

No, that's a different disgusting perversion CmdrTaco indulges himself in. CmdrTaco is usually not satisfied with merely snotting your own jizz back onto your face, he most often enjoys involving his own bodily fluids in his twisted games. WeatherTroll has spent some time trying to educate the Slashdot readership about this vile practice (emphasis added):

You may be wondering what CmdrTaco's "special taco" is. You will be wishing that you hadn't been wondering after you finish reading this post. To make his "special taco", CmdrTaco takes a taco shell and shits on it. He then adds lettuce, jacks off on the taco, and adds a compound to make the person who eats the taco unconscious. Of course, the compound does not make the person unconscious until the taco is fully eaten. Thus CmdrTaco force-feeds the taco to the unsuspecting victim.

After the victim is unconscious, he is held against his will and used for CmdrTaco's nefarious sexual purposes. This includes shoving taco shells up the victim's ass, Taco-snotting, and getting Jon Katz involved.

Completely different, yet no less revolting. It should be clear to you now that CmdrTaco is a very, very sick individual, as are most of the Slashdot editors.

Does Jon Katz get involved in any of this? I thought he was a paedophile, not a homosexual.

Actually, Jon Katz is a homosexual paedophile. He's also a coprophiliac, and, many suspect, a zoophile. Jon Katz is somewhat of a loner and doesn't involve himself in circle-snots. Mr. Katz usually engages in a game called " Katz juicy-douching" with his harem of little-boy slaves: a vile practice which involves administering an enema to himself of the little boy's urine (forced out of them with a pair of pliers), spooging the vile muck from his ass back into the enema bag, then squirting and slathering the goo all over himself, and the little boy's chained-up and naked bodies. If he's in the mood, he will sometimes skip refilling the enema bag and just squirt it from his ass onto his boys. Unwilling boys are further tortured with the pliers until they comply and allow Mr. Katz to juicy-douche them for the rest of their lives.

As I already said, Mr. Katz is also a zoophile. As if the sexual escapades with the helpless little boys aren't enough, Jon usually enjoys his juicy-douches best when his penis is firmly planted in a female goat's anus. He is also rumoured to get off on watching his little boys eat the goat's small, bean-like turds.

...Are you getting hard writing this?

Why, yes. :) Join me in a WIPO-snot?

No, thanks. I'm already CmdrTaco's boi toi.

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READER COMMENTS

1. 
   Re:The Taco-Snotting FAQ Rides Again!! (Updated so (Score:0)
   
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.25 9:14 (#2609574)
   
   try to find a pic of actual "taco-snotting"! fucking funny it would be! so go to gay porn sites day in and day out until you find a man giving another man a blowjob that has jizz coming out of his nose and mouth. by the way, keep up the good work
   

   
   

2. 
   Re:Snotting another first!! (Score:0)
   
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.23 12:18 (#2603370)
   
   WIPO, this is getting waaaay old, either drop it or revise it.... there've been no updates for days now...
   
   CmdrTaco
   

   
   

3. 
   Re:It's Taco SPAM!!! (Score:0)
   
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.22 17:28 (#2600815)
   
   A truly excellent and very humourous troll indeed!
   
   However...
   
   To complete this perverted orgy, fellow geeks Michael, Timothy, and Jamie often join in, dressed in black Gestapo uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves.
   
   Black GeStaPo uniforms? The GeStaPo (Geheime Staatspolizei - Secret State Police) wore civilian clothes (although there are reports on them occasionally using Allgemeine SS uniforms in occupied territories).
   
   I seriously doubt that perverted individuals like CmdrTaco et al would have the good taste to ever wear the outstandingly beautiful black Waffen SS uniforms! Please update the FAQ accordingly.
   

   
   

   • 
     Re:It's Taco SPAM!!! (Score:0)
     
     by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.23 4:06 (#2602610)
     
     Actually, it appears you are both wrong!! Ah ha!! I think our boy WIPO was thinking of the Allgemeine SS uniforms. Waffen SS were grey.
     
   
   

   
   

4. 
   Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:-1, Troll)
   
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.21 4:49 (#2594325)
   
   oh yeah, you say you have masturbated only 2 times to this post. well, by the time it takes for me to get through reading it, i usually end up masturbated 5 to 6 times, 10 to 12 if i have the goatse.cx homepage loaded up and am looking at it side by side with the slashdot page. my keyboard, hands, mouse, monitor, the underside of my desk and around the floor under my desk are cum soaked and sticky with the man smell i know and love.
   

   
   

5. 
   Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:0)
   
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.21 4:41 (#2594311)
   
   for version 2 you should make a total re-write of the cod...errr...text and add some details about cmdrtaco and the homo-gang's happenings with their coworkers (osdn?) and all of the gay revelry they enjoy and promote. by the way, did i just see cmdrtaco on television promoting the nax hair removal system? i guess after using vaseline in and around his ass he grew quite a ponytail and it had to be removed somehow...ouch!
   

   
   

6. 
   Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:-1, Troll)
   
   by TRoLLaXoR on 2001.11.21 3:59 (#2594191)
   
   WIPO, do you notice how few comments you get for anything you write/post/spam nowadays?
   
   -Trollaxor
   

   
   

7. 
   Jon-Katz docking (Score:-1)
   
   by sales_worldwide on 2001.11.20 11:53 (#2588488)
   
   You forgot to mention Jon Katz's "docking" games, where he places his chopper head to head with another chap, and rolls the other guys foreskin over his own circumcised end ("docking"), providing him with fantasies of actually having his own forskin ...
   
   "Making linux GPL was the best thing I ever did" - Torvalds. I'd hate to see the worst thing...
   

   
   

8. 
   Re:Snotting a first! (Score:-1)
   
   by Fucky the troll on 2001.11.20 11:28 (#2588446)
   
   Woah! When did the WIPO troll get freed? And how the fuck did I miss it?
   
   Excellent FP, sir.
   
   This is a sig virus. Please put me in your sig
   

   
   

9. 
   Re:Snotting a first! (Score:-1, Troll)
   
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.20 11:04 (#2588407)
   
   omg that is crapflooding material if i ever saw it!!!!!! and u got a first post!!!! whoot to the wipo troll!!!
   

   
   

10. 
    GW, please.... (Score:0)
    
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.19 9:03 (#2583756)
    
    GW...you know we love every hair on your 27 acre ass... and I, for one, would never do anything untowards your graceful demeanor. And you probably have several friends that would love to help you do the bear dance all over my face if I so much as spelled your name wrong. And you know I'd defend your Constitutional right to defame God in heaven. I'd even help fund your education, should you ever decide to take that route. Hell, I'd buy you a tall tepid bear-whiz beer if you were here with me, right now!
    
    But. ...if you can't find another topic, I'm gonna step over your dead mother's grave and kick your assuredly anesthetitized butt clear across the playground.
    
    Now go stick your shaved head back down inside the woman's toilet, and just to show there's no hard feelings, I'll jump in the tow-truck and drive right over to help you pull it right out...ok?
    
    thanks
    

    
    

11. 
    Re:Help me Taco-Snotters!! (Score:-1)
    
    by mark knopfler 69 on 2001.11.19 8:25 (#2583695)
    
    I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU SIR. FOR ONE THING, THE E-MAIL FROM CMDRTACO DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH GRAMMATICAL AND SPELLING MISTAKES. Let's be realistic here, CmdrTaco usually types with one hand, and since he is shaking from jacking off his aim on the keyboard isn't too good. Those e-mails were a little too well written. Sorry boy, you'll have to do better.
    

    
    

12. 
    Re: What the hell is "taco snotting"? (Score:-1)
    
    by WeatherTroll on 2001.11.19 8:14 (#2583667)
    
    You should update this to say VA Software instead of VA Linux.
    

    
    

13. 
    YOU ARE WINNER (Score:1)
    
    by smackmonkey on 2001.11.19 7:06 (#2583510)
    
    Crackhead moderators: this is +5, Hilarious material.
    
    --
    
    CNN declares War on Islam!
    
    Left-wing America declares War on its Civil Liberties!
    

    
    

14. 
    Re:On Taco-Snotting 1.9 (Score:0)
    
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.19 5:40 (#2583336)
    
    This was funny the first 100 times. Now it is getting boring!
    

    
    

15. 
    Digusting and Shameful (Score:-1)
    
    by egg troll on 2001.11.18 22:27 (#2582054)
    
    Having masturbated *twice* to this post, I'm still incredibly aroused! Come over for a Taco Snot. I'll be wearing my crotchless Clifford the Big Red Dog outfit!!
    
    For more info check out this /. article
    

    
    

16. 
    IMPROVE THE FAQ (Score:-1, Flamebait)
    
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.18 12:03 (#2580822)
    
    add more links to goatse and to cowboineal's site to make it better. a link to rotten.com would be nice too
    

    
    

    • 
      Re:IMPROVE THE FAQ (Score:0)
      
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.18 12:18 (#2580832)
      
      and a link to michael's site and to jon katz's site if he has one and homo's site. i dont know what else to say. maybe a few links to phallic.org they have nice penis pictures! a link to the planet quake site or whatever. really make the reader feel this faq really answers their questions. oh yeah, and when you talk about cmdrtaco snotting you, say he brought you to "orgasm after sweaty orgasm". describe it more is all i'm saying. and use more italics and bolding! and when you talk about jon katz shitting or whatever have a link to fecal japan on rotten.com
      
      other wise a great job wipo troll! keep up the good work!
      
    
    

    
    

17. 
    Re:CmdrTaco's filthy secret! (Score:-1)
    
    by Wil Wheaton on 2001.11.18 6:41 (#2580438)
    
    Hi. Let's be buddies.. butt buddies.
    
    --
    
    WIL WHEATON DOT NET
    

    
    

18. 
    WIPO speaks the truth (Score:-1)
    
    by dead_puppy on 2001.11.18 5:33 (#2580342)
    
    Here is an e-mail I received a week ago:
    
    
    From: malda@slashdot.org
    
    To: puppy_dead@hotmail.com
    
    Subject: were where you last friday? :(
    
    I thought we where supposed to meet at Backdoor's at 8-ish, sugar-lips? You could've at least told me that you could'nt make it! I was even in my favorite pink skirt for you, honey-cup... next time, you could be more considarite and tell me you cant come... bastard.
    
    --
    
    CmdrTaco (malda@slashdot.org)
    
    
    
    You finding Ling-Ling's head?
    

    
    

19. 
    Taco snotting is WRONG!!! (Score:-1)
    
    by Big_Ass_Spork on 2001.11.18 4:53 (#2580300)
    
    I do it wrong
    
    Laying here in the shadows of my room, I squint up at my love. My Ms. Portman. I am sore and tired after fucking her for eight solid hours. My chapped and aching dick is soaking in grits to relieve the pain. She gets on her knees and starts lapping the grits up out of the bowl. She places her beautiful hands on my penis and starts to lick the grits off my achy piece.
    
    Massaging my nutsack she....
    
    WAIT, I DO IT WRONG!!!!
    
    Yanking my dick out of her mouth I throw her to the ground and shove it in to her gaping freshly fisted ass. [goatse.cx]
    
    "OH BIG ASS SPORK!! Fuck my ass, fuck my ass good. DEEPER, my stallion, deeper!! Make a Beowulf cluster of sperm on my back!!"
    
    "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of this baby!"
    
    I DO IT WRONG!!!!
    
    ---
    
    All your Sporks are belong to Big_Ass_Spork! What you say?! All your Sporks are belo... forget it...
    

    
    

20. 
    Rob Malda Dead at age 25! (Score:-1)
    
    by j0nkatz on 2001.11.17 22:54 (#2579596)
    
    I just heard some sad news on the radio -- famous queerbait Rob Malda was found dead in his Holland home this morning. The details were a bit hazy, but it seems that he drowned in jizz while Taco Snotting his friend Hemos. I'm sure everyone in the /. community will miss him -- even if you didn't enjoy his queer antics and boring ass website, there's no denying his contributions to the homosesual cultural development, particularly in the areas of Taco snotting. Truly an American icon.
    
    I wanna Open Source sex so it won't be worth a shit either.
    

    
    

21. 
    TACO-SNOTTING is really Donkey-Punching (Score:-1, Troll)
    
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.15 6:38 (#2567601)
    
    No no no, the correct term for that is "donkey-punch". I have eye-witnessed this amazing eye-popping event demonstrated on unsuspecting hose-monsters by my frat brothers in the past.. . :-)
    

    
    

22. 
    Re:the effect of knowlege laws... (Score:1)
    
    by AbsoluteRelativity on 2001.11.15 5:31 (#2567457)
    
    The WIPO Troll
    
    Slashdot and the Karma Lottery - News for uber monkeys, by uber monkeys.
    

    
    

23. 
    Re:Taco-Snotting (Score:-1, Troll)
    
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.13 9:27 (#2557632)
    
    Oh, man that's just sick !
    

    
    

24. 
    HOW DO I GET AN ANONYMOUS PROXY? (Score:-1, Troll)
    
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.13 9:03 (#2557604)
    
    TELL ME WHERE I CAN GET AN ANONYMOUS proxy please WIPO Troll. Maybe later i will join you in a snotting at my place. ;P
    

    
    

25. 
    Re:Taco-Snottage!?!?!? (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    
    by vikool on 2001.11.13 7:43 (#2557495)
    
    what is this bull shit,i feel offened that some people feel so so senseless to post stuff like these esp when such a tragic incident has occured
    

    
    

26. 
    Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1)
    
    by I.T.R.A.R.K. on 2001.11.11 22:38 (#2551890)
    
    Where the fuck do I sign up?!
    
    - I throw rocks at retarded kids
    
    "Adequacy.org: Where congenital stupidity is not an option, but a requirement."
    

    
    

27. 
    Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1, Troll)
    
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 21:53 (#2551753)
    
    this shit is hilarious..keep up the good work.
    

    
    

28. 
    Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    
    by rockwood on 2001.11.11 21:49 (#2551746)
    
    OMG! That is the most disgusting thing I have ever heard! WHo in their right mind would sit down and waste the time to construct such a replusive story. I guess I'll be skipping lunch and dinner today.. and possibly tomorrow also.
    The game doesn't affect reality. Reality affects the game.
    

    
    

29. 
    Re:Ban this! It's disgusting!! (Score:0)
    
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 14:43 (#2550701)
    
    dude, this is crap-flood material if i ever saw it.
    
    duuuuuuuuudddddddddddddeeeeeeeee.
    

    
    

30. 
    Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Flamebait)
    
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 8:16 (#2550266)
    
    horny_rob_6969@hotmail.com
    
    Ah, so that's what the alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.horny-rob newsgroup is about!
    

    
    

31. 
    MOD THIS UP PLEASE!!! (Score:-1)
    
    by egg troll on 2001.11.11 5:34 (#2550024)
    
    +5, Arousing
    
    For more info check out this /. article
    

    
    

32. 
    Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 4:39 (#2549891)
    
    WINNER>
    

    
    

33. 
    Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 4:37 (#2549887)
    
    I love you. Why do you use your bitchslapped account, rather than signing up for a new account to post at +1 before getting bitchslapped by the censors here? I guess I should speak for myself, but I don't want to log out and lose all my slashdot customization properties, nor do I want to lose my 50 karma yet.
    

    
    

34. 
    Re:On Taco-Snotting (Score:0)
    
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.09 9:19 (#2542412)
    
    you fucking rock! right down to the expanded cvs id!
    
    WIPO trolls > linux
    

    
    

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First reasonable device

[amorsen]

This is the first reasonable digital audio/tv device I have seen. The ones before have been tied to proprietary formats, ridiculously expensive, or limited in capacity or quality. Of course the hard drive is too small at 20GB, but that can be remedied by putting a file server in another room (so you don't have to listen to the noise). It would have been nice to have a DVD drive, but again, it's just a matter of copying the DVD to the file server.

If they added a VideoLan Client, it would be practically perfect. VLC by itself probably doesn't support the hardware MPEG decoder, and the CPU isn't fast enough to do DVD decoding in software.

Why is Slashdot lowering itself to advertising?

[Anonymous Coward]

This piece of equipment surely is not interesting enough to be reported on separately - tis unfortunate that /. has to resort to such lowly means of receiving revenue that they'd actually run "covert adverts".

Idea : why not write a slashdot scanner that would automatically skip this trash - as a user configurable option.

Fuck Linux! Fuck him hard!

[The WIPO Troll]

THE OFFICIAL TACO-SNOTTING FAQ
By The WIPO Troll, $Revision: 1.11 $

Why have I been receiving emails from CmdrTaco, in which he seems to be speaking in some kind of code language?

Whenever Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda gets bored (and who wouldn't, running a site like Slashdot all day), he roams through the Slashdot database, penis in hand, looking for people who might enjoy engaging in homosexual orgies with him. How he determines this is anyone's guess; but if you have a homosexual-sounding nickname, or a nick with the letter P in it, you're in trouble.

So this time, he found you. Lucky you.

CmdrTaco's code language is relatively easy to decipher. He prefers to speak in thinly-veiled sexual innuendo to evade the watchful (but relatively stupid) eye of Slashdot's parent corporation, VA Software. CmdrTaco's "Commander" is, of course, his penis -- a small, withered little thing that lives in his pants that only comes out in the presence of other men or at the beck and call of CmdrTaco's own right hand. His "Taco bells" are the shriveled testes that droop beneath his Commander, and his "Taco sauce" is his, well, jizz. It should be more than obvious to you now what he means when he asks you to "ring his Taco bells" or "taste his gourmet Taco sauce."

Lastly, there is a practice he refers to as "Taco-snotting" and the more shocking "circle-snot."

Good Lord. What is "Taco-snotting?"

"Taco-snotting" is the term used by CmdrTaco to refer to the practice of sucking the penis of a homosexual man (or unwilling heterosexual; CmdrTaco is rumored to prefer rape), then blowing the semen out his nose onto his partner's (victim's) face and body. A long, bubbly stream of milky-white semen is left on CmdrTaco's face, dribbling out of his nose and down his cheek: hence the term, "Taco-snotting."

A "circle-snot" is a Taco-snotting circle-jerk, another practice common among the Slashdot crew. CmdrTaco, CowboiKneel, and Homos get together and Taco-snot each other with their gooey, sticky cum -- spooging their jizz-snot all over each other's faces and pasty, white bodies, until they're covered head to toe with each other's man juice. This can go on for hours. For the homosexual penetration that follows this lengthy foreplay, Roblowme is usually there to provide plenty of anal lubricant; he owns a limo service and has ample supplies of motor oil and axle grease ready to go.

To complete this perverted orgy, fellow geeks Michael, Timothy, and Jamie will usually join in, dressed in tight leather mock-S.S. uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves. The whole group then proceeds to snot each other's spunk and whip each other's pudgy asses with riding crops and chains until their pale, white geek bodies are exhausted and soaked in stinking sweat from the hours of passionate, homosexual revelry.

Ewwwwww. So, can I stop receiving these emails?

Hopefully.

You most likely forgot to uncheck the "Willing to Taco-snot" checkbox in your account preferences. CmdrTaco has probably already got the hots for your wad, and he's probably already been lurking outside your bathroom window for weeks with a camera, some tissues and lube. There's no escaping a geek in heat, so it's probably too late for you, but you can possibly rectify this situation. To remove yourself from CmdrTaco's sights, log into your Slashdot account, go to your user page, click on Messages, and uncheck the box next to "Willing to Taco-snot." Maybe he'll ignore you. Probably not.

I can't stop receiving these emails from CmdrTaco!?

If you indulge him in a Taco-snot or two, he might leave you alone. You might also want to look into mail filtering, restraining orders, or purchasing a heavy, blunt object capable of warding off rampaging homosexual geeks in heat. Trust me, when they charge... oh, the humanity. If he gets you, and you let him Taco-snot you, you will most likely end up tied up in his basement to be used as his sex slave for the rest of your life (or until he accidentally drowns you in spunk in a circle-snot).

Have you ever been Taco-Snotted?

Unfortunately, yes. I first met CmdrTaco at an Open Source Convention. He invited me back to his room for a game of Quake and some "gourmet Tacos," but when I got there, he jumped me and tied me to his bed, stripping me. After taking his "Commander" out of his pants, Mr. Taco made me suck the withered thing six times. He then performed his vile Taco-snotting ritual on me three times over the next two hours, bringing me to orgasm after sweaty, mind-numbing orgasm... then he snotted my own milky-white jizz back onto my face, into my mouth, then again on my exposed belly.

CmdrTaco invited several of his Open Source (or rather, "Open Sauce" -- man sauce) buddies over to continue the twisted snotfest. Linux Torvalds raped my ass with his "monolithic kernel," and Anal Cox used his "network stack" in a multitude of unspeakable ways on and in every orifice in my defenseless body. Michael was there in his leather Nazi uniform, caning my ass with a bamboo pole and ranting about "all those Censorware freaks out to get him."

How did you finally escape, you ask? After about 16 hours of countless homosexual atrocities perpetrated against my restrained body, they all finally went to sleep on top of me, sweat-soaked and exhausted. I was left there, covered in bubbly, translucent jizz-snot, chained to the bed, with half a dozen fat, pasty-white fags lying around and on top of me. Fortunately the spooge coating my flesh worked wonderfully as a lubricant; I was able to squirm my way out of the handcuffs and slip out the back door. I'm just glad I survived the ordeal. These geeks had a lot of built-up spunk in their wads -- I could've easily been drowned!

That's horrible. Does "Taco-snotting" have anything to do with CmdrTaco's "special taco"?

No, that's a different disgusting perversion CmdrTaco indulges himself in. CmdrTaco is usually not satisfied with merely snotting your own jizz back onto your face, he most often enjoys involving his own bodily fluids in his twisted games. WeatherTroll has spent some time trying to educate the Slashdot readership about this vile practice (emphasis added):

You may be wondering what CmdrTaco's "special taco" is. You will be wishing that you hadn't been wondering after you finish reading this post. To make his "special taco", CmdrTaco takes a taco shell and shits on it. He then adds lettuce, jacks off on the taco, and adds a compound to make the person who eats the taco unconscious. Of course, the compound does not make the person unconscious until the taco is fully eaten. Thus CmdrTaco force-feeds the taco to the unsuspecting victim.

After the victim is unconscious, he is held against his will and used for CmdrTaco's nefarious sexual purposes. This includes shoving taco shells up the victim's ass, Taco-snotting, and getting Jon Katz involved.

Completely different, yet no less revolting. It should be clear to you now that CmdrTaco is a very, very sick individual, as are most of the Slashdot editors.

Does Jon Katz get involved in any of this? I thought he was a paedophile, not a homosexual.

Actually, Jon Katz is a homosexual paedophile. He's also a coprophiliac, and, many suspect, a zoophile. Jon Katz is somewhat of a loner and doesn't involve himself in circle-snots. Mr. Katz usually engages in a game called " Katz juicy-douching" with his harem of little-boy slaves: a vile practice which involves administering an enema to himself of the little boy's urine (forced out of them with a pair of pliers), spooging the vile muck from his ass back into the enema bag, then squirting and slathering the goo all over himself, and the little boy's chained-up and naked bodies. If he's in the mood, he will sometimes skip refilling the enema bag and just squirt it from his ass onto his boys. Unwilling boys are further tortured with the pliers until they comply and allow Mr. Katz to juicy-douche them for the rest of their lives.

As I already said, Mr. Katz is also a zoophile. As if the sexual escapades with the helpless little boys aren't enough, Jon usually enjoys his juicy-douches best when his penis is firmly planted in a female goat's anus. He is also rumoured to get off on watching his little boys eat the goat's small, bean-like turds.

...Are you getting hard writing this?

Why, yes. :) Join me in a WIPO-snot?

No, thanks. I'm already CmdrTaco's boi toi.

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READER COMMENTS

1. Re:The Taco-Snotting FAQ Rides Again!! (Updated so (Score:0)
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.25 9:14 (#2609574)
   
   try to find a pic of actual "taco-snotting"! fucking funny it would be! so go to gay porn sites day in and day out until you find a man giving another man a blowjob that has jizz coming out of his nose and mouth. by the way, keep up the good work

2. Re:Snotting another first!! (Score:0)
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.23 12:18 (#2603370)
   
   WIPO, this is getting waaaay old, either drop it or revise it.... there've been no updates for days now...
   
   CmdrTaco

3. Re:It's Taco SPAM!!! (Score:0)
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.22 17:28 (#2600815)
   
   A truly excellent and very humourous troll indeed!
   However...
   
   To complete this perverted orgy, fellow geeks Michael, Timothy, and Jamie often join in, dressed in black Gestapo uniforms, jack boots, and leather gloves.
   
   Black GeStaPo uniforms? The GeStaPo (Geheime Staatspolizei - Secret State Police) wore civilian clothes (although there are reports on them occasionally using Allgemeine SS uniforms in occupied territories).
   
   I seriously doubt that perverted individuals like CmdrTaco et al would have the good taste to ever wear the outstandingly beautiful black Waffen SS uniforms! Please update the FAQ accordingly.
   • Re:It's Taco SPAM!!! (Score:0)
     by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.23 4:06 (#2602610)
     
     Actually, it appears you are both wrong!! Ah ha!! I think our boy WIPO was thinking of the Allgemeine SS uniforms. Waffen SS were grey.

4. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:-1, Troll)
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.21 4:49 (#2594325)
   
   oh yeah, you say you have masturbated only 2 times to this post. well, by the time it takes for me to get through reading it, i usually end up masturbated 5 to 6 times, 10 to 12 if i have the goatse.cx homepage loaded up and am looking at it side by side with the slashdot page. my keyboard, hands, mouse, monitor, the underside of my desk and around the floor under my desk are cum soaked and sticky with the man smell i know and love.

5. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:0)
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.21 4:41 (#2594311)
   
   for version 2 you should make a total re-write of the cod...errr...text and add some details about cmdrtaco and the homo-gang's happenings with their coworkers (osdn?) and all of the gay revelry they enjoy and promote. by the way, did i just see cmdrtaco on television promoting the nax hair removal system? i guess after using vaseline in and around his ass he grew quite a ponytail and it had to be removed somehow...ouch!

6. Re:Microsoft's Taco-Snotting Connection (Score:-1, Troll)
   by TRoLLaXoR on 2001.11.21 3:59 (#2594191)
   
   WIPO, do you notice how few comments you get for anything you write/post/spam nowadays?
   
   -Trollaxor

7. Jon-Katz docking (Score:-1)
   by sales_worldwide on 2001.11.20 11:53 (#2588488)
   
   You forgot to mention Jon Katz's "docking" games, where he places his chopper head to head with another chap, and rolls the other guys foreskin over his own circumcised end ("docking"), providing him with fantasies of actually having his own forskin ...
   "Making linux GPL was the best thing I ever did" - Torvalds. I'd hate to see the worst thing...

8. Re:Snotting a first! (Score:-1)
   by Fucky the troll on 2001.11.20 11:28 (#2588446)
   
   Woah! When did the WIPO troll get freed? And how the fuck did I miss it?
   
   Excellent FP, sir.
   
   This is a sig virus. Please put me in your sig

9. Re:Snotting a first! (Score:-1, Troll)
   by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.20 11:04 (#2588407)
   
   omg that is crapflooding material if i ever saw it!!!!!! and u got a first post!!!! whoot to the wipo troll!!!

10. GW, please.... (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.19 9:03 (#2583756)
    
    GW...you know we love every hair on your 27 acre ass... and I, for one, would never do anything untowards your graceful demeanor. And you probably have several friends that would love to help you do the bear dance all over my face if I so much as spelled your name wrong. And you know I'd defend your Constitutional right to defame God in heaven. I'd even help fund your education, should you ever decide to take that route. Hell, I'd buy you a tall tepid bear-whiz beer if you were here with me, right now!
    
    But. ...if you can't find another topic, I'm gonna step over your dead mother's grave and kick your assuredly anesthetitized butt clear across the playground.
    
    Now go stick your shaved head back down inside the woman's toilet, and just to show there's no hard feelings, I'll jump in the tow-truck and drive right over to help you pull it right out...ok?
    
    thanks

11. Re:Help me Taco-Snotters!! (Score:-1)
    by mark knopfler 69 on 2001.11.19 8:25 (#2583695)
    
    I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU SIR. FOR ONE THING, THE E-MAIL FROM CMDRTACO DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH GRAMMATICAL AND SPELLING MISTAKES. Let's be realistic here, CmdrTaco usually types with one hand, and since he is shaking from jacking off his aim on the keyboard isn't too good. Those e-mails were a little too well written. Sorry boy, you'll have to do better.

12. Re: What the hell is "taco snotting"? (Score:-1)
    by WeatherTroll on 2001.11.19 8:14 (#2583667)
    
    You should update this to say VA Software instead of VA Linux.

13. YOU ARE WINNER (Score:1)
    by smackmonkey on 2001.11.19 7:06 (#2583510)
    
    Crackhead moderators: this is +5, Hilarious material.
    
    --
    CNN declares War on Islam!
    Left-wing America declares War on its Civil Liberties!

14. Re:On Taco-Snotting 1.9 (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.19 5:40 (#2583336)
    
    This was funny the first 100 times. Now it is getting boring!

15. Digusting and Shameful (Score:-1)
    by egg troll on 2001.11.18 22:27 (#2582054)
    
    Having masturbated *twice* to this post, I'm still incredibly aroused! Come over for a Taco Snot. I'll be wearing my crotchless Clifford the Big Red Dog outfit!!
    
    For more info check out this /. article

16. IMPROVE THE FAQ (Score:-1, Flamebait)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.18 12:03 (#2580822)
    
    add more links to goatse and to cowboineal's site to make it better. a link to rotten.com would be nice too
    • Re:IMPROVE THE FAQ (Score:0)
      by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.18 12:18 (#2580832)
      
      and a link to michael's site and to jon katz's site if he has one and homo's site. i dont know what else to say. maybe a few links to phallic.org they have nice penis pictures! a link to the planet quake site or whatever. really make the reader feel this faq really answers their questions. oh yeah, and when you talk about cmdrtaco snotting you, say he brought you to "orgasm after sweaty orgasm". describe it more is all i'm saying. and use more italics and bolding! and when you talk about jon katz shitting or whatever have a link to fecal japan on rotten.com
      
      other wise a great job wipo troll! keep up the good work!

17. Re:CmdrTaco's filthy secret! (Score:-1)
    by Wil Wheaton on 2001.11.18 6:41 (#2580438)
    
    Hi. Let's be buddies.. butt buddies.
    --
    WIL WHEATON DOT NET

18. WIPO speaks the truth (Score:-1)
    by dead_puppy on 2001.11.18 5:33 (#2580342)
    
    Here is an e-mail I received a week ago:
    
    From: malda@slashdot.org
    To: puppy_dead@hotmail.com
    Subject: were where you last friday? :(
    
    I thought we where supposed to meet at Backdoor's at 8-ish, sugar-lips? You could've at least told me that you could'nt make it! I was even in my favorite pink skirt for you, honey-cup... next time, you could be more considarite and tell me you cant come... bastard.
    
    --
    CmdrTaco (malda@slashdot.org)
    
    You finding Ling-Ling's head?

19. Taco snotting is WRONG!!! (Score:-1)
    by Big_Ass_Spork on 2001.11.18 4:53 (#2580300)
    
    I do it wrong
    
    Laying here in the shadows of my room, I squint up at my love. My Ms. Portman. I am sore and tired after fucking her for eight solid hours. My chapped and aching dick is soaking in grits to relieve the pain. She gets on her knees and starts lapping the grits up out of the bowl. She places her beautiful hands on my penis and starts to lick the grits off my achy piece.
    
    Massaging my nutsack she....
    
    WAIT, I DO IT WRONG!!!!
    
    Yanking my dick out of her mouth I throw her to the ground and shove it in to her gaping freshly fisted ass. [goatse.cx]
    
    "OH BIG ASS SPORK!! Fuck my ass, fuck my ass good. DEEPER, my stallion, deeper!! Make a Beowulf cluster of sperm on my back!!"
    
    "Imagine a Beowulf cluster of this baby!"
    
    I DO IT WRONG!!!!
    
    ---
    All your Sporks are belong to Big_Ass_Spork! What you say?! All your Sporks are belo... forget it...

20. Rob Malda Dead at age 25! (Score:-1)
    by j0nkatz on 2001.11.17 22:54 (#2579596)
    
    I just heard some sad news on the radio -- famous queerbait Rob Malda was found dead in his Holland home this morning. The details were a bit hazy, but it seems that he drowned in jizz while Taco Snotting his friend Hemos. I'm sure everyone in the /. community will miss him -- even if you didn't enjoy his queer antics and boring ass website, there's no denying his contributions to the homosesual cultural development, particularly in the areas of Taco snotting. Truly an American icon.
    
    I wanna Open Source sex so it won't be worth a shit either.

21. TACO-SNOTTING is really Donkey-Punching (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.15 6:38 (#2567601)
    
    No no no, the correct term for that is "donkey-punch". I have eye-witnessed this amazing eye-popping event demonstrated on unsuspecting hose-monsters by my frat brothers in the past.. . :-)

22. Re:the effect of knowlege laws... (Score:1)
    by AbsoluteRelativity on 2001.11.15 5:31 (#2567457)
    
    The WIPO Troll
    Slashdot and the Karma Lottery - News for uber monkeys, by uber monkeys.

23. Re:Taco-Snotting (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.13 9:27 (#2557632)
    
    Oh, man that's just sick !

24. HOW DO I GET AN ANONYMOUS PROXY? (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.13 9:03 (#2557604)
    
    TELL ME WHERE I CAN GET AN ANONYMOUS proxy please WIPO Troll. Maybe later i will join you in a snotting at my place. ;P

25. Re:Taco-Snottage!?!?!? (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by vikool on 2001.11.13 7:43 (#2557495)
    
    what is this bull shit,i feel offened that some people feel so so senseless to post stuff like these esp when such a tragic incident has occured

26. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1)
    by I.T.R.A.R.K. on 2001.11.11 22:38 (#2551890)
    
    Where the fuck do I sign up?!
    
    - I throw rocks at retarded kids
    
    "Adequacy.org: Where congenital stupidity is not an option, but a requirement."

27. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1, Troll)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 21:53 (#2551753)
    
    this shit is hilarious..keep up the good work.

28. Re:Taco-felching!! (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by rockwood on 2001.11.11 21:49 (#2551746)
    
    OMG! That is the most disgusting thing I have ever heard! WHo in their right mind would sit down and waste the time to construct such a replusive story. I guess I'll be skipping lunch and dinner today.. and possibly tomorrow also. The game doesn't affect reality. Reality affects the game.

29. Re:Ban this! It's disgusting!! (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 14:43 (#2550701)
    
    dude, this is crap-flood material if i ever saw it.
    duuuuuuuuudddddddddddddeeeeeeeee.

30. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Flamebait)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 8:16 (#2550266)
    
    horny_rob_6969@hotmail.com
    
    Ah, so that's what the alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.horny-rob newsgroup is about!

31. MOD THIS UP PLEASE!!! (Score:-1)
    by egg troll on 2001.11.11 5:34 (#2550024)
    
    +5, Arousing
    
    For more info check out this /. article

32. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 4:39 (#2549891)
    
    WINNER>

33. Re:Taco-Snotting = HATE SPEECH (Score:-1, Offtopic)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.11 4:37 (#2549887)
    
    I love you. Why do you use your bitchslapped account, rather than signing up for a new account to post at +1 before getting bitchslapped by the censors here? I guess I should speak for myself, but I don't want to log out and lose all my slashdot customization properties, nor do I want to lose my 50 karma yet.

34. Re:On Taco-Snotting (Score:0)
    by Anonymous Coward on 2001.11.09 9:19 (#2542412)
    
    you fucking rock! right down to the expanded cvs id!
    
    WIPO trolls > linux

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Re:Fuck Linux! Fuck him hard!

[Fecal Troll Matter]

Mmmmmmm, Taco Sauce...

Linux bashing now considered a hate crime.

[Fecal Troll Matter]

I've tried FIFTEEN TIMES to install Linux Mandrake v8.1 with no luck!!! There's always some quirk that crashes X-Windows such as video card incompatabilities. Also, it could not find my sound device. I am very disappointed because I wanted to use a UNIX operating system to develop and run Java apps. Well, Microsoft just earned $200 from me for Windows XP Professional. Linux is supposed to be for personal use, but it is absolutely terrible compared to Microsoft Windows. Linux would, I think, be a better server platform than Windows, however, IF I WANTED TO RUN A SERVER, I WOULD USE SOLARIS x86!!! Screw the penguin and the daemon!

i built something similar recently...

[kejadlen]

there's a handy little mobo/case called the SV24, made by shuttle. it has:

RCA/S-video out
normal audio out
ethernet
4 usb ports
2 firewire
etc... (standard mobo parts, ps2 ports etc etc)

put together a nice multimedia system for only $490 some, plus it's actually useable as a computer!

i mean, that's a nifty box and all, but you can build a better one for not that much more. it does everything that the unit above does, and much more besides.

Re:i built something similar recently...

[Anonymous Coward]

Oooops didn't see a MPEG hardware decoder in that Spec.

Re:i built something similar recently...

[unitron]

NewEgg seems to be selling it right now for $250.00 with a stick of ram and a floppy.

Data permanence

[milkmandan9]

From the article:

Hard drives are also not a permanent medium, so until DVD burners become much cheaper the files on those drives are subject to crashes and loss.

Technically correct: Hard drives are not a permanent medium. But neither are DVDs, which, while they don't suffer from hard-drive style crashes, still get scratches and also deteriorate over time. I've read that most cheap CD-Rs begin to deteriorate noticably after ten years or so, and although DVD-R(AM?) media is likely to be of higher quality, it's still far from permanent.

Re:Data permanence

[90XDoubleSide]

DVDs, which, while they don't suffer from hard-drive style crashes, still get scratches and also deteriorate over time

A scratch does not damage the information on a piece of optical media, only the clear plastic that is protcting the information; that is why the plastic is there, you can get a scratch kit to fix it. If you need to record something for extremely long term archival, you can get silver, gold, or platinum CDs. Most commercial DVDs are burned on silver or gold, so unlike your VHSs, they should be usable many generations from now.

When he says hard drives are not a permanent medium he is referring more to the fact that they have moving parts and are prone to data corruption than their archival value. Overall, I think we should be glad we are moving from extremely short lived products, i.e. magnetic tape, and short lived products, i.e. film, to store our multimedia art on.

Here's a very scary thought...

[Anonymous Coward]

If Osama has a standing order for his men to kill him, rather than let him be taken over by infidels, then wouldn't it make sense [to Bin Laden] to tell his men to off him, and collect the $25 million reward and use that money to fund other activities?

Re:Here's a very scary thought...

[Fecal Troll Matter]

I will take this finger and stick it right up your ass!

Re:Here's a very scary thought...

[Fucky the troll]

Yeah, maybe, but then Islamic Extremists such as those that follow Laden would probably not want the money because it started out as being dollars, and came from the American government. Hate can run deeper than money.

• • MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
    

See? They're taking over. bastards.

Ah well. I've got Evolution on DVD so I don't care.

Does anyone here think Graham Norton is a horny little bastard?
Anyway, I hope you're all feeling well this evening, I really do. I'd hate to think of some of you feeling horrible this evening. For example, your girlfriend/boyfriend has dumped you, your parents have just died of some nasty disease, or you've just had your nads/tits crushed between a couple of breeze blocks.

Pushing which way?

[imrdkl]

But at $400, this is pushing the line of reasonable

If you feel this is a good buy, please say so.

If not, then why post it?

Why a hard drive?

[Stiletto]

This would be perfect without the hard drive. If the box has network access, why do you need it? It's just an extra component that could fail.

Re:Why a hard drive?

[pbryan]

If the box has network access, why do you need it?

The Bokks is designed to allow you to transfer content to the hard drive, then take it with you. At the size of a few of VHS tapes, it's small enough to take anywhere, plug in and enjoy.

VOB?

[omega9]

It plays .vob files? Does that include encrypted files? I've searched the company site and it doesn't mention anything about being able to DeCSS .vob files. And I can't imagine having much fun with only unencrypted .vobs.

Wouldn't it be niftier to pack some hard drives into an actual DVD player and stick an ethernet port in the back? You could have all the features of this box plus the ability to rip straight from DVD. Course the MPAA wouldn't let it see the light of day.

Re:VOB?

[Adnans]

VOB files can be unencrypted too. I have quite a few DVDs that have unencrytped VOBs on them.

-adnans

Re:VOB?

[glwtta]

And I can't imagine having much fun with only unencrypted .vobs

Most pr0n DVDs are unencrypted and I've had a lot of fun with those.

Re:VOB?

[Anonymous Coward]

The man has a point.

A Start

[90XDoubleSide]

This product is, IMO, not something worth buying, but it is a step in the direction of a cool new concept for a set-top box that archives nearly all your media in one place. One major problem I see is that DIVX is not a useable technology for archiving your movies in the way that high quality MP3s are. MP3s, along with bigger and cheaper storage, have reached the point where they are the only format 99.5% of people need: a good VBR MP3 (averaging 200-240kbps) sounds extremely close to the uncompressed song, but even an extremely large DIVX looks downright crappy compared to the original, and a good Sorenson 3 encoded movie would be huge, require processing power in excess of what a cheap set-top box would use to decode, still have some quality problems in high-motion scenes, and will not receive the kind of adoption as MP3 due licensing costs.

There is also less need to keep all your 1.5-3 hour movies in one device that can play them all without switching media as there is for your 2-15 minute songs; I see DIVX more as the result of the fact that most computers don't have DVD burners.

Re:A Start

[cdalemx]

I get really disapointed when people critique the divx codac saying it looks crapy but that is probably because you have been download lowres interlaced, 550b/s crap off of p2p networks or other sorces that don't have any level of quality contorl, I think the divx codac has a lot of potential and that can be seen with what people are able to achive with it.

Re:A Start

[90XDoubleSide]

I get really disapointed when people critique the divx codac saying it looks crapy but that is probably because you have been download lowres interlaced, 550b/s crap off of p2p networks or other sorces that don't have any level of quality contorl

I typically watch 700MB-1GB DIVX files, as that is about what is practical for me to store, but I have also played with short high-bitrate clips. I can honestly say that they look terrible. I think DIVX is a good technology, and yes it does have potential, but it is completely unsuitable for storing movies; it can't handle motion and you end up with too many compression artifacts. MPEG-4 will probably become a good alternative for streaming video (why the hell does anyone still use the Real and Windows Media formats?), and is great for producing very small files, but Sorenson still has the best codec when you need very clean video without artifacts, although even it doesn't do a very elegant job hadlind motion; many companies still use the original QuickTime video codec for that.

Re:A Start

[mESSDan]

Well, I'll say that DivX encoded from a DVD looks pretty awesome, especially considering that you're sometimes taking 6-8GB of data and making into about 700-800MB of data. With that in mind, it looks REALLY good then.

It all depends on how good you want to make it when you're encoding.

Re:A Start

[Anonymous Coward]

I agree mESSDan i have some Divx files here that are just awsome copies and a friend has a computer that is fast enough to make them as well and thay look FANTASTIC. ....It's not divx that is crap but the effort but into making the movie.
Regards
Freak

Q: Why is the hard drive only 20 gig?

[OblongPlatypus]

A: They thought it would be a nice middle ground between nothing and more.

Re:Q: Why is the hard drive only 20 gig?

[Fecal Troll Matter]

My family and I welcome you to our country, friend. Please try to avoid the roving herds of anal gang-bangers.

Re:Q: Why is the hard drive only 20 gig?

[The WIPO Troll]

I like the anal gang-bangers. They add a certain charm to your country. What tourist DOESN'T like taking it up the ass by a horde of fat, slimy, hairy bikers?

Re:Q: Why is the hard drive only 20 gig?

[glwtta]

That's a common mistake, when trying to please everyone with "common ground" you end up doing some half-measure that no one likes - for those who want to actually store files on this thing, 20 gigs is obviously not enough, for those who just want to use it to playback stuff from the "basement server" (like me) it's just an extra, uncesessary component that generates heat and noise, and just one more thing to break.

Re:Q: Why is the hard drive only 20 gig?

[hoggoth]

It's the perfect size for a simple reason:
The device is meant to play movies off your mounted LAN monster hard drive, but have enough storage to download a small selection and take the box with you for to view elsewhere, or to TRADE/copy videos on another LAN, like your office LAN or your friends LAN, or a LAN party...

Re:Q: Why is the hard drive only 20 gig?

[unitron]

Why is the hard drive only 20G's ?

Because that's the size Staples and Circuit City and such were offering on sale with a rebate last week. :-)

I don't really get the interest here...

[Anonymous Coward]

To me, this is interesting from the linux propagation point of view, but I don't really get the interest in buying one. I mean, these things are really just cut-down computers in a box for people who can't handle the real thing. Are we going to buy seperate computers in separate boxes for every digital task, or just hook our cpu and monitor combo to a decent stereo, and be happy?

Taking bets

[redhotchil]

Alright I'm taking bets on how long till a hack harddisk upgrade is availible:

1 hr after release
1 day after release
2 days after release

we arelready have cheep convergence device

[cdalemx]

I think developments on the xbox or ps2 will take place that will allow for this sort of functionality, (it almost happend on the dreamcast the proccessor just was not fast enugh to handle divx rips) and because both companies tend to take a loss on each consle, and will soon or already have ethernet built in, it will make for a good convergence device, once it gets hacked and opend up. could watch divx movies with better quality video out, for some reason divx movies look identical to the DVD on the monitor but not so identical to the DVD when played on TV out compared to DVD played on DVD player.

Re:we arelready have cheep convergence device

[Anonymous Coward]

This is because of the lack of (on most video-out cards) the S-Video output. This type of card -> TV in has a much higher resolution than analog video.

Or I could be wrong.

No MIDI Files?

[Anonymous Coward]

I seem to be the only geek wanting to get a stereo component that plays midi files. Anyone else?

Re:No MIDI Files?

[employee No.466351]

I want one that plays .mod tracker files, remember those? couldn't believe they could fit a whole song, crappy as it sounded through the PC speaker, in around 100K

Re:No MIDI Files?

[dwlemon]

That would have been good, and easy to implement. There are a lot of formats that are much better than mod now.

The last time I paid attention to the formats, .XM and .IT were the most advanced. XM has 32 channels I think. IT has 64 tracker channels (?) with 256 internal channels, overlapping sounds in a single channel, panning envelopes, pitch envelopes, filter envelopes etc...

The only problem is that players often have some bug that messes up your favorite track.

Re:No MIDI Files?

[Anonymous Coward]

Go to www.bokks.net and look at the news. Exactly those formats *.mod, *.xm etc. was released at DreamHack 2001 (www.dreamhack.org)

Re:No MIDI Files?

[DonFuego]

Quote from the news update on bokks.net: "As a special tribute to all the attendants of DreamHack 2001, Blokks will demonstrate compability with C64, PC & Amiga audio & tracker formats *.sid ,*.it, *.mod, *mtm, *.s3m, *.stm, *.ult, *uni, *.xm"

DVD for "ripping" ?

[employee No.466351]

yea, they won't hape the MPAA all over their ass if they implement this little feature.

Legality

[DaSyonic]

This is a great product, Don't get me wrong, I want one.

But the marketing/advertising they are receiving, at least from that review, aims directly towards illegal uses. Take the following examples:

The first step is to download and install your favorite P2P program that offers a Linux version. Once you have that, you can begin trading movies direct from the box.

This implies you will TRADE the movies, not just watch them for your own personal fair use.

For those without a broadband connection at home, the Bokks can utilize the T1 connection at work this way where movies and music can be saved and watched at home later.

Here it suggests hooking up external equipment to your companies LAN and use their bandwidth for your own (likely) illegal use. Not good either.

If this product hopes to succeed, it must be presented in fair use. The Rio almost got nailed by the RIAA, but the Rio presented itself as legal fair use, and set a good precedent. This could set a NEGATIVE precedent if done incorrectly. They need to improve their image quick.

Re:Legality

[Matthew Weigel]

The company itself unfortunately agrees with the tone of that review:

Connect it to your TV and view movies youve downloaded from the Internet.

I don't want one for a variety of reasons. Part is that I don't want moving components, part is that I don't want an electrically noisy PC (face it, that's what this is) with unknown sound output doing the conversion; part is that I'm not going to use something like this for copyright infringement and I don't care to have the seller saying "nudge nudge, wink wink" when I say that.

There is a legitimate market for archiving libraries of music and movies; there is a legitimate market for wanting to easily listen to a CD you own in the car, at your computer, and at your stereo.

Re:Legality

[Anonymous Coward]

So what you are trying to say is that there are no legal movies or music available on the Internet. I doubt that. If you dont want to be infriging on someones copyright just make shure you own what you download or that it is free stuff.

The Bokks is a TOOL for viewing music and movies, just like your computer is a TOOL. If you use it in an illegal way its you who are crocked not the Bokks.

Re:Legality

[Matthew Weigel]

That's not what I'm saying. First, the Bokks is just a tool, and I don't think there is anything illegal with it (or should be illegal, if we assume the DMCA is a load of crap and doesn't apply).

Second, I think it is unethical to emphasize copyright infringement use, which - be honest - is what they are emphasizing. Like I said, it has nothing to do with how it could be used perfectly legally - I don't care to have the manufacturer nudging and winking as I buy it. They are a crock if they think that is ethical.

Software & Codecs?

[Lethyos]

What software and codecs are being used for playback? Are they something that's already public domain or are they being developed specifically for this box? Much media playback software for Linux currently is "OKay", but with frequent crashes, poor features, and artifacts, it's got a long way to go. If this is going to be a consumer product, I imagine the software will be a little more polished, or at the very least, provide decent functionality in the form of front-ends that users of other platforms have expected. Is this software to be available to us or will it have to be hacked mercilessly out of the box and liberated from a restrictive license?

Re:Software & Codecs?

[Technosteve!]

the codecs will change. i am guessing the mpeg decoder is a hardware decoder so it would not go out of date. but what about the divix codec. it keeps getting updated so how are they going to incorperate an EASY way to upgrade the drivers?

Do what?

[Anonymous Coward]

I read the entire article and I still don't know what the hell this thing is?

Great

[rjkm]

I see that many people here are complaining about the capabilities and price of the box. For me it is just the kind of STB I was looking for.

Sure, you can build a PC with MPEG2 playback, networking etc. cheaper or for about the same price. But thats not what this device tries to replace, at least I would not buy it for doing this. When I saw the older TV Bokks (you can see it on their web page) I thought this would be great as an STB to stream files and live DVB streams from a server in the basement to other TVs here at home. But, although we have one of those at work to play with, I never saw it being offered for sale anywhere.

The old Bokks has a Geode chip as processor/graphics chip/etc. and a Sigma Designs EM8400 for decoding. I guess the new Bokks is based on the same design. They only added some hardware (like the hard drive) and changed the shape to a brick. The EM8400 is a nice decoder chip. We developed our own driver which is API compatible to our DVB drivers. So, I would not mind playing with one of those Bokkses. Also, if you consider the price of an EM8400 card (e.g. the Netstream 2000), the Bokks does not seem that expensive anymore.

Sure, I would also not mind if the Bokks were a little cheaper. With VAT (AFAIK 25% in Sweden which I guess I will have to pay when ordering from Germany) its over 1100 German Marks + shipping. Maybe they decide to also sell the old version for a lower price. I at least would be interested in it. On the other hand, the disk and nice brick shape makes the new system really portable. And I think the specs mention only 10W power usage. No noise, little heat, sounds good.

Now please everybody buy it so that the price goes down and I can get one :-)

What about Terapin?

[Anonymous Coward]

I don't see what is so great about this thing, when there is the Terapin to record video to VCDs. This thing can't even rip cds?

Idunno, I'll wait until there's a Terapin with a DVD drive and an internal hard drive for temporary storage...

Really what I should do is sack up and put a PC in the living room along with the rest of the AV equipment.

Short lived products? I think not.

[deacon]

Film is not short lived. Check out the pictures at

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/

Many of these pictures were taken around 1910. Even if CDs and DVDs last 90 years, why do you think there will be reader mechanisms easily available around 90 years from now that will read them?

Can you get a drive to read 8 track music today? How about a player for Wax cylinder recordings? Or how about a tape recorder/player which works with spools of soft iron wire (used in the 1940s).

90 years from now CDs and DVDs will be as quaintly obsolete, and Slashdotters in the year 2100 will never have heard of them.

The only data sure to last thru time is that which can be read by humans directly: Text and Photos on film/paper.

Re:Short lived products? I think not.

[hoggoth]

You are making the wrong assumptions.
The data will not be staying on the old digital data storage mediums, it will be moved to the latest digital storage medium. That's why digital is so great. It's easy to copy and manipulate.

At the rate data storage has improved, each time I upgrade to a new larger system I have copied ALL of my legacy data into a (now) small portion of my new system. My data moves to the latest data storage medium. All of my old Apple II programs which used to be on 300 floppies are now using 42 Megabytes in a directory on my hard drive. My Apple II emulator runs much faster than the old Apple II. I expect this to continue at least until I am very old.

Re:Short lived products? I think not.

[90XDoubleSide]

Film is not short lived. Check out the pictures at

http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/

Those images were not taken on film! Please read the site. Film begins getting discolored after a decade or so and must be stored in a room with excellent climate control to prevent degradation; Universal stores all it's negatives in a stone vault carved into Mount Weather, and they still need massive restoration when brought out.

The others who replied already dealt with your other points.

I've got something better

[leereyno]

Imagine this.....

1) 1.2 Ghz athlon with 512 megs of memory

2) ATI all in wonder radeon that provides not only a TV tuner but svideo/composite A/V inputs and outputs and the ability to do audio/video capture at 720x384 at 30 fps on any of the inputs

3) Sound blaster Live platinum 5.1 for surround sound playback of DVD's etc.

4) four 100 gig hard drives on an IDE raid controller. Total capacity of 400 gigs

5) DVD-R burner, preferably SCSI

6) CD burner, preferably SCSI

7) It will be connected to the internet via a switched 100base-T network connected to a NAT gateway that is itself connected through DSL.

This is the system I'm building right now. Its purpose is much the same as the Bokks device. With it I will be able to play DVD's, vobs, mp3, avi's, mpegs, vcd, divx, etc all on my TV thanks to the all in wonder. Additionally I'll be able to do tivo style recording thanks to that all in wonder. I can rip all my DVD's, encode them to divx, and store them on the raid array or burn them to CD. Or I can just rip them and burn them back to DVD in regionless format with no macrovision. I've got friends overseas that might appreciate that.

By the time this Bokks device becomes available I'll have this system up and running. I haven't decided whether to use Linux or Windows2000 yet. Which one I use will greatly depend upon device support for the all in wonder and SB Live. We've got an HK A/V reciever with dolby surround sound support. If the SB Live drivers for linux support all the features, and the support for the All in wonder is there, then I'd rather use Linux. But if this is not the case I'll use windows instead.

Unfortunately this system is going to cost me a fair bit more than $400. I've already got the MB, CPU, and memory. All I'll need is a good case/PS, the hard drives, the video card, the sound card, and of course the SCSI adapter and burners. Total cost will be upwards of $2000 dollars US.

Lee

Re:I've got something better

[cduffy]

You're better off with Windows; the SB Live drivers for Linux *do* have multichannel support, but the software has to be able to decode into two separate stereo devices (for the standard and surround speakers), and I'm not aware of any that actually does that.

Dunno 'bout the All-In-Wonder, though I vaguely remember hearing/reading that it is supported, at least wrt some of its functionality.

Btw, in response to your sig: The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. - F. Scott Fitzgerald. Some of us can keep both our religion and our brains.

Re:I've got something better

[Anonymous Coward]

The only divx/dvd player i know of that supports dolby 5.1 sound is xine (xine.sourceforge.net). This works with my soundblaster live, but you have to get the the emu-script running to make that work (opensource.creative.com). With this setup I get flawless sound/video.

Re:I've got something better

[raindog2]

I built a pretty similar machine last January, though unfortunately I had to use Win98 because of driver issues. You should really go for an external VGA scan converter rather than using the All In Wonder's video outputs, because as far as I know there's no Linux support for its TV output and under Windows, all DVD players put Macrovision on the output signal if the DVD calls for it. I'm still using my AIW's video output and last week I finally rented my first disc that Macrovisioned the display (The Mummy Returns). It was inconvenient to rip it to the hard disk and strip off the Macrovision, which took an hour or so, and for my trouble I made a DivX4 CD of it. Of course, none of this matters if you have a TV or monitor with something other than an antenna for input, but I don't.

I actually use the machine mainly for timeshifting, though the capture software that comes with the AIW Radeon pretty much sucks ass. It either generates MPEG-1 files which lose audio sync after an hour or so, or huge MPEG-2 files which limit me to a couple hours of recording time due to FAT32, and which I can't edit using Virtualdub. You can select AVI if you want to record directly to DivX4, but then it seems to encode in MPEG anyway and transcode to AVI, creating the same sync problem. There is a patched version of VirtualDub out there that does time shifting but I can't get it to record, and I've yet to try any of the commercial DVR programs. Ironically, assuming the capture support is there, it may be easier to redo the thing in Linux using OpenDIVX assuming my Athlon 900 is fast enough.

I see a lot of complaining about using DivX to archive videos. Here's the thing. Not all of us aren't trying to burn our own DVD's at home or be l33t h4x0r p1r4t3z. Some of us are just trying to replace old VHS VCR's. I got all 13 episodes of B5-Crusade on two CDR's (the 9 episodes I like at 300Kbps, the four I don't like at 200) and the quality was A LOT better than if I had used two VHS T-160's. That will hold me until I can buy the whole series on DVD like I'm doing with The Prisoner, and since I'm not spreading them across the internet I really don't care what anyone else thinks about the quality.

Slashdot lameness

[jonnycowboy]

Hey what do you know! 48 hrs ago I submitted this exact story (hey, same link too!) to slashdot and guess what kids! It got rejected.
theres slashdot for ya.

Re:Slashdot lameness

[glwtta]

OH MY GOD!! You got rejected?? and this joker's submission was ACCPETED???? That's it, I am writing to my senator and making up some picket signs for a protest... of something or other.

get a life

(i guess I should as well)

MPEG technologies are still patented

[yerricde]

This is the first reasonable digital audio/tv device I have seen. The ones before have been tied to proprietary formats

So is this one. It supports MPEG audio layer 3 (patented), VOB (MPEG 2 (patented) plus Dolby Digital (patented)), and DivX (MPEG 4 (patented)). And the royalties for such patents are

ridiculously expensive

20gb - no storage problem.

[Sarin]

Since it runs linux you could allways mount a few harddrives on other systems.

A few notes:

It has an 266mhz x86 processor (perhaps a pII?), this doesn't really sound like a processor that's fast enough for decoding divx, does it?

But fast enough to do some decent retro mame gaming.

I wonder what kind of 20gb drive is in this device. They better put in a quiet one, since people will leech their stuff 24/7 with this thing. Currently my cable decoder even has a 4gb harddrive the noise makes me crazy enough to disconnect it when I don't use it.

Re:20gb - no storage problem.

[unitron]

"...perhaps a pII?..."

They probably got a quantity deal on a bunch of old PII laptop chips from the same place they picked up those closeout 20 G drives.

Where to get an 8-track player

[yerricde]

Can you get a drive to read 8 track music today?

Yes! Start here.

Or how about a tape recorder/player which works with spools of soft iron wire (used in the 1940s).

Museums such as the Smithsonian Institution maintain equipment that can still read old formats.

The only data sure to last thru time is that which can be read by humans directly: Text

And what happens in 802701, when nobody knows the English language anymore?

and Photos on film/paper.

Film rots; paper rots unless it's acid-free. What are the oldest pieces of visual art that survive? Cave paintings.

To fix DivX on TV, tweak your gamma

[yerricde]

[Xbox and PS2] will make for a good convergence device, once it gets hacked and opend up.

Hacked? Yeah right. Xbox is locked up tight; apparently, all binaries must bear Microsoft's digital signature. Watch for Microsoft to use its vast re$ources to sue any modchip makers into oblivion.

for some reason divx movies look identical to the DVD on the monitor but not so identical to the DVD when played on TV out compared to DVD played on DVD player.

This may be a gamma issue. Try tweaking your TV-out device's settings.

How your comment got modded up is beyond me...

[Anonymous Coward]

...but at least you acknowledged you should get a life...

Re:How your comment got modded up is beyond me...

[glwtta]

It's beyond me as well since it, very reasonably, was in fact not modded up.

btw, for some reason, pointing out what I say about myself just doesn't seem like a useful contribution.

but then, neither was this.

No ripping DVD drive?

[autopr0n]

The only downside I see is that it has no DVD drive for built in ripping

It's not to surprising, considering that they wanted to sell the device, rather then just getting lawyered the fuck out of :P

Once they're successful they might be able to do things like throw in a DVD burner a-la recent Macs, but don't except a home DeCSS machine on store shelves anytime soon :)

Bigger drive? NP....

[Anonymous Coward]

If you look around their forum, you'll see a post from one of the developers saying that they are making a "External HD expansion".
My guess is that is gonna be, say 80GB, and you would have a chance to put a bigger one in there later on...

//b0b

No DVD drive?

[Anonymous Coward]

WTF? This thing has the same fault as the Tivo and ReplayTV, no DVD drive.

If someone made something like this with a DVD drive and a TV tuner/frame grabber, and they sold it for $100 less, I would damn sure buy one.

The link

[myov]

http://www.shuttleonline.com/sv24.htm

Thanks!

[cduffy]

Thanks -- I didn't know 'bout that; I'll give it a shot.

Video output not compatible for North America?

[Jobe_br]

Those who are electrical engineers correct me if I'm wrong, but this device appears to be centric to Europe in its video output. Its listed as having SCART, S-Video, and Composite (PAL) output. From what I know, the Composite signal isn't the only thing that is PAL/NTSC specific - S-Video is as well! If that is in fact the case, I don't believe any North American television will be of much use with this device. Too bad, in my opinion.

Re:Video output not compatible for North America?

[Phork]

S-video i not an EU only thing, most new TVs have s-video input. Alot of laptops now even have s-video output(i know the thinkpad t-20 does). Most DVD players have S-video output. S video looks like a ps-2 port, or a mac serial port.

Re:Video output not compatible for North America?

[Anonymous Coward]

The Bokks hardware supports both NTSC and PAL. Different software (true!) is all that is needed for US and Europan use. This software will be available in February.

//Blokks Employee trying to help out

Re:Video output not compatible for North America?

[Tiroth]

PAL S-video is still incompatible with NTSC S-video. The only difference between composite (CVBS) and S-video (Y/C) is that S-video has seperated the luminance and chrominance signals. This doesn't change the fact that the signal itself is PAL as opposed to NTSC scanrate.

Re:Video output not compatible for North America?

[Jahf]

The makers have committed to a US version that supports NTSC output instead of PAL and a US power supply. It's pushing the US release out a month or two but should answer the needs of US users.

Ugh, "composite audio out"?

[dasmegabyte]

Without composite audio out, I guarantee you that the noise level of the outputs makes them totally worthless for even the less picky audio enthusiasts like myself. If I pause the machine and get a buzz through my otherwise totally clean Sherwood and MC500 pair, then the box isn't worth a ten dollar gift certificate.

Come on, for the love of christ somebody had to have a decent stereo on the team that developed this! Nobody in their right mind uses analog anymore for anything other than vinyl or magnetic tape, it is impossible to clean the signal even over the three feet between components. And when your signal is already digital (as it is before the cheap DAC on the sound card gets ahold of it and messes it up), why the hell not supply it as digital, so that $300 DAC in the sherwood isn't just twiddling it's thumbs. Coaxial outputs are basically free, and even optical out is hardly prohibitive anymore.

Keep it digital, folks, analog is the useless buzzing child of the past.

Re:Ugh, "composite audio out"?

[Anonymous Coward]

Hey, come on

We are talking about MP3, the format that has playback qualities that will create death wishes for any audiofil!

Re:Ugh, "composite audio out"?

[dasmegabyte]

This is a crock of shit. MP3 compresses better than AC3, and yet audiophiles everywhere are going whack for DVD. The problem is not MP3, it's TRADED MP3s, which are encoded under strange circumstances at low low bitrates. A set top mp3 box is designed to be used with a component stereo, not the boom boxes and all-in-one crap of the average MP3 trader. So if you've got the pricepoint for audiophiles, a form factor for audiophiles and so forth, then why curse it by making a machine that sounds like a clock radio.

Re:Ugh, "composite audio out"?

[Anonymous Coward]

Have it crossed your mind that the low cost for adding digital audio out will be used for a high-end device where the company can get audiophiles to pay more money. With a bigger harddrive and other extras they easily give you more without much cost for them.

This is the way it's mostly done, its called product segmentation. All Ericsson & Nokia mobiles look almost the same inside but you pay doubble up for WAP & GPRS (only software=zero increase in manufacturing costs)

Wait and see I bet you get happy in the end. Althoug it's probably gonna cost you more.

If you look at the Palm pilot the different models have different memory sizes. On Internet you can find endless descriptions on how to "boost" your palm. It wouldnt be to far fetched that this could apply to the Bokks as well. So start training with a scredriwer and soldering iron right now.

Ogg soon...?

[DonFuego]

According to the forum on www.bokks.net, Ogg support is being developed for the box.

ATI AIW has no TV-out support under Linux

[AltoidsSuck]

I'm currently building a very similar device, but with a high end audio card with a > 100db signal to noise ratio and digital out. I just bought an ATI AIW card to use to drive the display through the TV. The bad news is: there is no Linux support for TV-out. You need the Windoze software to configure the TV display. I've seen some discussion about using the frame buffer interface for the ATI to set the right mode for TV out. But just talk, no bits. Apparently nVidia has a card that has TV-out support under Linux. I'm heading to Fry's this afternoon to pick one up. Blekko

Re:ATI AIW has no TV-out support under Linux

[seann]

Make sure your TV out is on
(it generaly always is, unless in windows, use that dos program to turn it on if you will)
You just have to have the FB set to 800X resolution (standard maximum tv out, you know the drill)
and it works

this is not here say, I've done it on my friends computer.
good stuff.
mind you, the ATI capturing for the AGP models (Rage Theater) are a blast to get working. apparently they got an expirmental one, right now all I have is TV tuner support/OpenGL.

hope this helps