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Hitchhiker's Guide DVD to be released on January 28

hitchhacker writes "It looks like The BBC series version of 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' is being released on DVD January 28, 2002. 'disc set contains all six episodes from the classic BBC sci-fi comedy as well 10 minutes of additional footage which was cut to acheive the 30 minute run time. Also included are a few additional features - making of, deleted scenes, interviews and more.'" CD: Word has it that this is a region 2 dvd.

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  1. Region 2? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative
    1. Re:Region 2? by Halcyon-X · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately it won't work on my PlayStation 2 or Toshiba DVD player... :/

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    2. Re:Region 2? by Amanset · · Score: 4, Informative

      Then check out DVD Region X for the PS2. Older versions came with a special memory card, newer versions just take up space on a standard memory card. You boot from a special disc, then it prompts you to choose your region. You select it, the disc tray opens, you replace the disc, push in the tray and then select the DVD in the browser.

      It is simple and it works. I use it all the time to view R1 DVDs with my R2 PS2. Your TV has to be capable of outputting the PAL source though, which is one area where Europe has an advantage. Our TVs these days are almost always PAL/NTSC compatible, whereas US TVs rarely have PAL compatibility.

      You have to get an NTSC version of DVD Region X. I know it exists, but I don't know where you buy it. The PAL version is widely available and is made by Datel Electronics.

      Finally, you can plug in codes from the website, if you update your PS2 DVD driver version.

    3. Re:Region 2? by AntiNorm · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Again I ask this: why are they region protecting DVDs of things that haven't been in any international theaters for a loooong time anyway? The MPAA is demonstrating quite clearly here that their argument for region protection (skew releases so a particular region can't have it on DVD when it is still showing in the theaters) is a lie, and that their real reason for having region coding is different.

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    4. Re:Region 2? by phaze3000 · · Score: 2

      Except that the US PS2 can't play PAL DVDs; PAL is of a higher resolution than NTSC, and the US version of the console doesn't have a big enough screen buffer apparently. Rather pissed off my mate who imported.. :)

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    5. Re:Region 2? by b1t+r0t · · Score: 2

      I was recently lucky enough to find the Laserdisc set last month for $25 at an antiques store I check about twice a year. (They usually go for $50 or so on ebay.) Region codes? What region codes? And it's the NTSC version, and supposedly includes those same deleted scenes, too.

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  2. And how do regions... by fintler · · Score: 2, Insightful

    affect the average /. reader? All of our dvd players ignore region codes ;P

    1. Re:And how do regions... by Schnapple · · Score: 1

      Well region 2 will - it's PAL instead of NTSC, so regionless player or no your TV has to be up to snuff.

    2. Re:And how do regions... by fintler · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      bleh...mod this down...it's just too much of an annoying attempt at a joke :P

    3. Re:And how do regions... by SkulkCU · · Score: 5, Funny


      Well, if you can't even view it outside of a single DVD region, it's not much of a guide to the galaxy, now is it?

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    4. Re:And how do regions... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not all players automatically output PAL on zone 2 DVDs. My Pioneer does, however, my other player (an Apex) autoconverts to NTSC output. YMMV.

      Regardless, there's nothing to keep you from using css-cat to rip the DVDs then convert them to NTSC SVCDs with TMPGEnc. If it was originally shot on film and not video, you can convert to NTSCFilm and use Goldwave to do the 25/23.976 length conversion on the audio like with the Buffy DVDs.

    5. Re:And how do regions... by fintler · · Score: 1

      hahah....redundant first post :D

    6. Re:And how do regions... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bleh...mod THIS down...it's just too much off topic :P

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    7. Re:And how do regions... by really? · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not always true; Japan is also region 2 but NTSC.

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    8. Re:And how do regions... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow an Anonymous Coward that was on topic and insightful

    9. Re:And how do regions... by andy+landy · · Score: 1

      Okay, I'm not an expert, but I was under the impression that DVDs were neither PAL or NTSC, they're just encoded MPEG-2. Surely it's the function of the DVD player to output the correct analogue signal. If you buy a DVD player in the US, surely it outputs all DVDs as NTSC (assuming you've modified it to play multi-region). I'm pretty sure all players in the UK output PAL, irrespective of the DVD.

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    10. Re:And how do regions... by phaze3000 · · Score: 2

      Yes, except a BBC DVD released in Europe isn't going to be a Japanese NTSC DVD now, is it..

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    11. Re:And how do regions... by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 2

      Most players in the UK output PAL (not all - especially the japanese models that are dual PAL/NTSC) but the scan rate is matched to the DVD. A region 1 dvd only runs at 50fps, so it outputs PAL/50 rather than PAL/60. Sometimes you'll find especially with older TVs that they can't handle the lower scan rate and don't work.

      My own player uses NTSC by default (all the menus are in black & white if you view it through the tuner), but using an RGB cable fixes that.

    12. Re:And how do regions... by grambo · · Score: 1

      That must be the best comment I've ever read.
      (wish I had a mind like that)

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    13. Re:And how do regions... by really? · · Score: 1

      true. But, I have yet to find any DVD player that doesn't do the PAL->NTSC "translation" on the fly. There could well be some that don't, but I haven't seen any

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    14. Re:And how do regions... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ummm... Try the PS2..
      I have no worries anyway- I use a TV to VGA translator, which renders PAL, NTSC and Composite straight onto my monitor, has a twitcher which allows me to switch audio and video between the PC, DVD and TV. I have a reasonable screen - but anyone know where to get a 28 inch wide screen LCD monitor? With nice high res- to play games, DVD's, watch TV as well as code and model in 3ds?

    15. Re:And how do regions... by phaze3000 · · Score: 2

      I'm pretty sure the Samsung 909 player doesn't. There are definately others.

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  3. This I gotta see by eric434 · · Score: 2

    I remeber seeing this on video ages ago. My favorite were the Vogons- proof that men in rubber suits look like men in rubber suits even when they're shouting "Resistance is Useless." IMHO one of the world's greatest B movies ever made... Combined with *an interview with Douglas Adams* and whatnot, it'll be worth every penny of the ~US$40... I just hope ThinkGeek manages to import it, or I can find it on eBay... :D

    And it's too bad they're doing reigon crap for this. Don't they know that H2G2 is an international phenomenon with millions of fans? Or are they going to release a special 'americanized' version? >:(

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    1. Re:This I gotta see by inquisitor · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The disc, like most BBC DVDs, will probably be dual region 2 and 4; so the Australians will be able to see it.

      Different companies have different rights areas; the BBC will want to release a R1 version for NTSCers out there, but it's not such a high priority for a company which is resoundingly Region 2. Also, BBC discs are released by Fox in the States, who won't want their area treaded upon. Complain to them.

      Maybe also the rights to HHGTTG are owned by someone else; "Monty Python's Flying Circus" and "The Avengers" are owned by A&E, for example.

      Now you get all the problems we have every time something cool is released in the States that we can't get; e.g. "Almost Famous" bootleg cut, Monty Python series box sets, Criterion "Life of Brian" and so on. That's why a lot of British people (including me, and most of uk.media.dvd) have their players modded. You should too, even if it's just a DVD-ROM drive and DVD player software (or a H+ hardware card.) Enjoy a whole new world!

    2. Re:This I gotta see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the rights to HHGTTG in the US are owned by Paramount. That would explain why Adams was never able to get the movie version project off the ground, interstudio rivalry

  4. Remember the movie? by YouAreFatMan · · Score: 5, Funny

    I remember, the first 10 minutes were the worst. The next 10 minutes, they were the worst. The next 10 minutes after that were even more horrible. After that, it went into a bit of a decline...

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    1. Re:Remember the movie? by Roto-Rooter+Man · · Score: 0, Funny

      I remember, alright. The "10 deleted minutes" were the best ones!

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    2. Re:Remember the movie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      What movie?

      You mean the BBC Series of 6 30 minute programs which was cut horribly into a US TV "Made for TV Movie"? Damnit, it was a series, not a movie!

    3. Re:Remember the movie? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I've seen the tapes of the original BBC version.

      Believe me, it's not the U.S. cut that's at fault.

  5. HGTTG Saved My Life by Agamous+Child · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I was a 5th Grader who had read a few things, you know read some books on cool stuff, had a z80 computer, the basic programming guide for the rest of us, etc. but I had little interest in school, I was a beach-bum loser. This friend of my Mom, he hands me this dog-earred paper-back book with a black cover and a little green sphere man sticking his tongue out at me... the guy, Dennis, tells me "Hey read this, you WILL like it." I was like, "sure, whatever".. I read the first few pages, and I couldn't stop reading.. I can honestly say I have about 4 copies of almost every other DA book, mostly first edition hardcovers. Big deal, everyone does? The thing was, this guy who gave me the book, pretty much the same day said to me that I should go to school more often, and I should really (in his words) "do something with your life." Maybe it was the book, maybe it was DA, maybe it was nothing, but certainly, it tied together and I started to go to school... I saw all of the HGTTG episodes on local PBS here in the states, and they are hilarious... I highly suggest them. They gave me a great cast to play out the rest of the books in my head with.. uh.. anyway.. I like them.. ALOT.

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    1. Re:HGTTG Saved My Life by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And now you post to Slashdot on a Saturday night. Congratulations. You've come so far. ;-P

    2. Re:HGTTG Saved My Life by Agamous+Child · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      bait.

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  6. Whooohooo!!! by lcorc79 · · Score: 1

    Dying to get my hands on this baby ... I treasure the books, and treasure my MP3's of the original radio series. Adams was a truly great writer and he is missed. I just hope the series (which I have never seen and haven't even read that much about) lives up to the material.

    My favorite was the poor, pathetic depressed robot. Some days I take after him just a wee bit too much :)

    42!!!!

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    1. Re:Whooohooo!!! by choco · · Score: 2, Informative

      >My favorite was the poor, pathetic depressed robot. Some days I take after him just a wee bit too much :)

      According to DNA, Marvin (the Robot) was heavily based on a real person - the script writer Andrew Marshall. "2point4 Children" (UK TV series) is probably his best known work.

      You can see the rest listed at imdb.com

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  7. Regarding the PAL vs. NTSC by eric434 · · Score: 1

    I believe that it's possible to get DVD playing software to do both, and I'm *sure* there are PAL -> NTSC converters availible. And if that fails, you can have a professional do it; I once had a European tape converted for around $30. Check your local camera shops; I know that Seattle residents can try Omega Photo.

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    1. Re:Regarding the PAL vs. NTSC by Markus+Landgren · · Score: 1

      Any decent DVD player (all Pioneers, and probably 90% of the rest of them) will be able to convert between PAL and NTSC (the 90% figure is a wild guess, but it SHOULD be 90%+ since the electronics to do this cost less than the cardboard box the player comes in). However, in the Pioneer case and many others, this results in a 50 Hz "almost NTSC" signal from PAL, or a 60 Hz "almost PAL" signal from NTSC. The frequency stays, but the color system is converted.

      When trying to watch this slightly off-standard signal on a pre-1970 TV, the picture will get squeezed or stretched vertically. However, when you watch it on a modern $100+ TV, the picture will come out just right.

    2. Re:Regarding the PAL vs. NTSC by uglyduckling · · Score: 4, Informative
      DVDs don't need PAL to NTSC convertors. The whole point is that they don't conform to any type of picture standard other than aspect ratio. It's the job of the DVD player to render the picture in PAL, NTSC, SECAM, SVGA or whatever standard you care to mention. The aspect ratio obviously depends on the physical screen, but can be corrected by adding black bars at the top or sides of the picture or by stretching if the view prefers.

      This is why there is so much dicussion about the region coding - because there is no reason why any DVD cannot be played anywhere in the world, the 'region coding' has been added because the film industry has got very used to controlling when and where a product can be distributed by choosing what picture standard to release it in. By delaying PAL releases they have been able to release films later in UK cinemas without the cinema release clashing with tape sales and therefore decreases losses if the film is a flop.

      I would guess that the BBC have decided to delay marketing this new DVD in the US, and so are pragmatically taking advantage of the region coding to see how it does over here first.

      The only time a PAL/NTSC convertor might be useful is if a foreign DVD player were imported in order to play DVDs from another region, which at 100 dollars/pounds, it's quite a viable thing to do. Of course, here in the UK many off-the-shelf players will play any region.....

    3. Re:Regarding the PAL vs. NTSC by Markus+Landgren · · Score: 4, Informative

      DVDs don't need PAL to NTSC convertors. The whole point is that they don't conform to any type of picture standard other than aspect ratio.

      ...and of course frame rate. Even though the signal on the DVD is neither in NTSC nor PAL formats, the DVDs are made for either NTSC or PAL. The fact that the frame rate is the only thing that really separates the two types makes it an even bigger scandal that some players can't output both NTSC and PAL from any type of disc.

    4. Re:Regarding the PAL vs. NTSC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Not just the frame rate, but also the number of lines in the picture. But that's not really NTSC versus PAL, more like M versus N, since the former are just a method of encoding color in a video signal (composite or s-video), and the latter designate specific signal timing flavours.

      what you refor to as NTSC is like 640x480, while PAL is more like 768x576 (if you use square pixels, that is)

    5. Re:Regarding the PAL vs. NTSC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, the resolution is 720x480 for NTSC and 720x576 for PAL. Pixels are always non-square. The players must figure out how to scale things correctly to fit the current display.

    6. Re:Regarding the PAL vs. NTSC by gorilla · · Score: 2

      Frame rate is probably the easiest thing to automatically convert. You simply either duplicate or delete frames as required.

  8. Douglas Adams by fiftyfly · · Score: 0

    May he RIP

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  9. Region 2 DVD??? by tswinzig · · Score: 3, Funny

    Beg pardon? Surely you mean region 42?

    (No, and don't call me Shirley.)

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    1. Re:Region 2 DVD??? by root_42 · · Score: 2

      > Beg pardon? Surely you mean region 42?

      No, but obviously sector ZZ-9 Plural Z Alpha.

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  10. extras by Transient0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    the list of extras is impressive, but it would have been really nice to see:

    1. text of the original novels.
    2. audio if the original radio show.

    The mini-series was alright, entertaining at least. The radio show on the other hand was brilliant.

    1. Re:extras by benjymous · · Score: 1

      I doubt the BBC would be allowed to include the text of the novels, as they don't hold the copyright to them.

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    2. Re:extras by Howie · · Score: 2

      audio if the original radio show.

      Indeed! I had the original radio shows on tape for a long time (taped from the radio), but the tapes have slowly been either chewed by tape decks or lost. The radio show had a significantly different plot in places... I prefer it.

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    3. Re:extras by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just FYI, You can find decent MP3s of the show on the net.

    4. Re:extras by ewhac · · Score: 4, Interesting

      ...it would have been really nice to see:
      1. text of the original novels.

      There is no "authoratative" version of the story. Douglas Adams kept making small changes to it every time it was published in a new medium. Even different BBC radio broadcasts were slightly different. I remember reading somewhere that he did this deliberately just to mess with the fans' heads, but I can't locate the reference. I daresay he would have insisted the DVD go out with yet another minor tweak to the story line.

      Here's a quote from the Introduction to The Original Hitchhiker Radio Scripts:

      "The people who heard the show on BBC World Service will have heard a slightly different version from the original BBC Radio 4 transmission. Those people who heard the BBC transcription service disc will have heard another version, and those who heard the commercial records will have heard another version again. Those people who saw the television show will have seen another different version, and those people who have read the books will have come across yet another different version."
      -- Geoffrey Perkins

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    5. Re:extras by Migelikor1 · · Score: 2

      You can get the text of almost any book at Project Gutenberg (http://promo.net/pg/). It's an organization dedicated to transferring as much literature as possible into a plain vanilla text format.

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    6. Re:extras by Kanon · · Score: 1

      You can buy the radio show on cd. It's well worth it.

    7. Re:extras by Zeinfeld · · Score: 2
      There is no "authoratative" version of the story. Douglas Adams kept making small changes to it every time it was published in a new medium. Even different BBC radio broadcasts were slightly different. I remember reading somewhere that he did this deliberately just to mess with the fans' heads, but I can't locate the reference

      When he spoke at Oxford he said it was because he got bored writing the same story over again.

      One change in the radio series was the change of the name of the worst poet from Niel Milne-Johnson (Adam's ex-roommate who wrote poetry) to Alice Jennings. His friend thought that being known for writing poetry worse than Vogon would be bad for his career.

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    8. Re:extras by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Not there. But the text for all his books is out there on the net. Or at least, it has been: I downloaded them all. And I've since proofread and corrected them all, and have lovely formatted ASCII texts of them all :]

      If it was legal, I'd offer to upload these somewhere, or distribute them, but as it's unlikely to be I'll stick to posting as an AC...

    9. Re:extras by nosferatu-man · · Score: 2

      You of course meant Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings, right?

      Peace,
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    10. Re:extras by Phexro · · Score: 2

      you can buy the radio shows on cd from the online BBC shop, where they have an entire hhgttg department.

    11. Re:extras by tomknight · · Score: 2
      Well, it was repeated on Radio 4 last September... I wish I'd recorded it, but I missed the first episode...

      You can always buy the series from the BBC - but I'd spend the money on the Lord of The Rings CD set instead. The radio series of that was, well, superlative. It too is being rebroadcast (Radio 4, Sat 2.30-3.30pm, GMT of course).

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  11. why on earth? by neurojab · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Why would the the BBC region encode a circa 1990(?) miniseries? The purpose of region encoding is to ensure that a movie leaving US markets can be "staged" into foriegn markets, forcing DVD sales to be after film sales to avoid home viewing cutting into theater reciepts. Region encoding old TV material serves no purpose other than to simultaneously reduce sales and annoy customers. Why would the BBC want to stop sales of this DVD to the US? The math is simple...more sales means more money when there are no greater revenue streams to cut into. If the people at the BBC are half as smart as their accents make them seem, this DVD will be region-free ;)

    1. Re:why on earth? by forged · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The purpose of region encoding is to ensure that a movie leaving US markets can be "staged" into foriegn markets

      You're forgetting that other countries produce film material, too. The region coding in this case is to ensure EU marget gets served first before anyone else can get it.

      Region encoding [...] serves no purpose other than to simultaneously reduce sales and annoy customers.

      I couldn't agree more with this statement.
      Now imagine that this would be the case for you almost every time a movie comes out on DVD. Annoying, eh?

      Why would the BBC want to stop sales of this DVD to the US? The math is simple...more sales means more money ...

      Your point is also valid viewed in the other perspective. Why would the US firms possibly want EU and other zones to wait sometimes 6 months or 1 year, to get the material on DVD ? See all the points above.. Makes no sense to me.

    2. Re:why on earth? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      The BBC may have sold the rights to Hitchikers for non-UK/Europe regions back in the 80s, which may stop them doing an R1 release currently.

    3. Re:why on earth? by MattXonn · · Score: 1
      The purpose of region encoding is to ensure that a movie leaving US markets can be "staged" into foriegn markets, forcing DVD sales to be after film sales to avoid home viewing cutting into theater reciepts.


      Different companies sometimes have the distribution rights in different markets. This is another use of region encoding.

    4. Re:why on earth? by Ronin+SpoilSpot · · Score: 1

      That is what they would want you to think.
      The reason for regions is not so much to prevent movies originating in the USA from reaching foreign viewers on DVD before the movies get there as much as prevent the foreigners from buing the US version much cheaper than the blatant overpriced region n+1 version (or is it the other way around? DVDs sold in countires with lower personal income must be sold cheaper, so the americans could reimport them cheaper?).

      That is, it is a marketing ploy to AVOID a global market.

      /RS

    5. Re:why on earth? by lcorc79 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The region coding in this case is to ensure EU marget gets served first before anyone else can get it.

      Granted, the original post was somewhat American-centric. However, I think his point still holds. This is not a film being released first to theatres and then to DVD/VHS, it is an old series finally making it to DVD. The "staging" he mentioned was referring to selling all the theatre tickets you can first, THEN selling all the rentals/DVDs/etc. The regions allow them to do this in all the various markets (even though the film isn't released to the theatres at the same time in various markets).

      Now imagine that this would be the case for you almost every time a movie comes out on DVD. Annoying, eh?

      Well, I agree that it's annoying, but as much as I hate to admit it I can sort of see the logic for Region encoding for films . I still don't like it, but I see the logic. Again, we weren't talking about movies here though -- just an old TV series. You had a point mentioning that the same holds true in when other countries are forced to wait when a US region DVD comes out -- but in most cases those are for films. The logic of region-encoding an old TV series simply escapes me -- no matter what region it's from.

      Ah well, I still say ... 42.

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    6. Re:why on earth? by benjymous · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The whole "why region TV shows" issue is something that confuses me too. Recently I bought 2 BBC DVD box sets, Fawlty Towers, and The Blue Planet (a documentary series about the sea)

      Now Blue Planet is region 0 (i.e. will play on any player), but Fawlty Towers is region 2.

      The only possible answer I could think of was that Blue Planet was a joint BBC / Discovery Channel production, and the Discovery Channel wanted to sell it outside Europe

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    7. Re:why on earth? by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 1

      Or maybe it is the difference between a documentary and a pop tv series? Most international distributors would get fussy with a pop tv series being region 0, whereas they probably couldn't care much about your 'marginal' DVDs such as documentaries and pr0n.

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    8. Re:why on earth? by benjymous · · Score: 1

      Though oddly, Walking with Dinosaurs is region 2+4

      Maybe they just roll dice, or something

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    9. Re:why on earth? by iwankhard · · Score: 1

      Because the advertising and distribution cost for having an American version of the dvd may not seem like a worthwhile investment to the non-advertsing state run institution of the BBC.

      Its the same with many BBC dvds. They have high quality material, released on dvds with region 2 encoding, and they probably realize that not enough americans will buy them to make a profit.

    10. Re:why on earth? by Hitch · · Score: 1

      I think that americans are unfairly thought of as either a) the cause of the problem for the rest of the world or b) don't care about this problem for the rest of the world. Most of us who are aware of the problem are quite irritated with the idea of regional encoding. I don't know anyone at all who says "regional encoding? no, that's a good idea". I've personally been quite vocal about disliking the whole concept. and so yes, every time a movie is released in the US before somewhere else (which is almost always) I imagine the frustration of others. and I can imagine it quite well, as the shoe is on the other foot more than you might think. Harry Potter, for instance, was released in England first. There are still a considerable number of BOOKS (Terry pratchett) that have only been published in europe. If I want them, I have to pay at least $10 more per book for what is , in the US, a six dollar paperback. I'm very frustrated. gave up and bought some of them from england a while ago, but the extra $30 is too much. had to buy the "The Last Hero" special edition version for what I would normally have considered way too much...anyway, I just want to point out that it works both ways more often than you think and that we're not all a bunch of insensitive clods who don't care about y'all.

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    11. Re:why on earth? by Chrimble · · Score: 2

      The "Heart of Darkness" DVD (another old BBC series, from approximately the same era as the H2G2 show - around the early 80s) is region 0.

      I've not checked my other BBC DVDs to see if this is an exception or not. 8)

      Anyway, if it is a Region 2, why not buy a multi region DVD player like we have to in Europe to watch Region 1 DVDs?

      On a slightly different note, I've recently noticed a significant increase in the number of region 0 DVDs being released, so maybe there is (at least) a little hope for the future.

      Not that this helps here, of course!

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    12. Re:why on earth? by Zeinfeld · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Well, I agree that it's annoying, but as much as I hate to admit it I can sort of see the logic for Region encoding for films . I still don't like it, but I see the logic.

      The purpose of region encoding, from start to finish was to support differential pricing. The story about movie releases is a smokescreen. If the industry execs. stated that the purpose of zone encoding was to allow them to maintain DVD prices in Europe that were double those in the US they would end up in jail.

      In fact they may still end up with a huge fine. The EU commission is investigating the DVD zone encoding scam and unlike the US regulators they are not easily bought off with Enron sized campaign contributions.

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    13. Re:why on earth? by LordNimon · · Score: 1

      Multi-region players are much more expensive and harder to find+ in the U.S. In addition, many of them are really just hacked single-region DVD players.

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    14. Re:why on earth? by neurojab · · Score: 1

      Good point! I never thought of that... That only applies, however, if they're planning to release a region 1 DVD as well... Wouldn't it be cool if the EU was able to pressure the DVD consortium into allowing the manufacture of region-free or region switchable DVD players? The DVD consortium is backed by deep pockets in Hollywood, so it's unlikely that a one-time fine will convince them... and a tax on regioned DVDs would only increase prices and hurt consumers even more. What are the other options at the EU's disposal? They would need to hurt those behind the region scam in an ongoing financial way... passing export taxes on Alan Rickman? Putting sugar in Tom Cruise's gas tank? More ideas?

    15. Re:why on earth? by Zeinfeld · · Score: 3, Informative
      The DVD consortium is backed by deep pockets in Hollywood, so it's unlikely that a one-time fine will convince them... and a tax on regioned DVDs

      The EU commission can fine a company up to approximately a years revenues from the products whose price was manipulated. So for the DVD scam the fine would be in the billions or tens of billions.

      The EU commission has imposed fines of that scale in the past - they fined IBM 1 billion for anti-trust practices back in the 80s. There would be no way the studios could avoid paying since their assets in Europe (including copyrights) could be siezed to pay the fine.

      The EU can also prohibit the sale of region locked DVD players, mandating all players sold in the EU to be multi-zone (with the exception of those for public audiences). This has already happened in New Zealand.

      Ultimately the studios are in a weak position. They have a US corporate, Enronesque view of regulation.

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    16. Re:why on earth? by wallsg · · Score: 1

      The purpose of region encoding, from start to finish was to support differential pricing. The story about movie releases is a smokescreen.

      Finally! At least someone gets it.

      Too bad my unused moderator points expired a couple of days ago.

    17. Re:why on earth? by gorilla · · Score: 2
      even though the film isn't released to the theatres at the same time in various markets

      This is become less true all the time. Big films are now almost always released simultatinously in all the major markets.

    18. Re:why on earth? by poiuyt23 · · Score: 1

      More exactly it is a ploy to eploit the global market at the multinational level while keeping those beneath that level out in the cold. Also a set up for a second offense for bootleggers who import films - now they are breaking the DMCA by reverse engineering the encoding process...

  12. Region two? by ottffssent · · Score: 2

    Gosh, I guess that means I just won't be able to play it here in the US, with my US-bought DVD-ROM drive, huh?

    1. Re:Region two? by tunah · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, finally the region coding is effective. They've managed to stop you buying a copy to play at home (they frown on 'fair use'), and forced you to download a DVD rip from kazaa.

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    2. Re:Region two? by forged · · Score: 2, Funny

      Heh. For once you guys in the US are suffering the consequences of this stupid region coding which was forced into the DVD standard. Now see how it feels to be on the other side of the atlantic for a change.

      It's so often us (outside the US) which suffer from region coding, since virtually everything comes on region 1 before other regions, when at all.

      rotfl :->

    3. Re:Region two? by ottffssent · · Score: 2

      Was I really that droll? My post was intended to be funny. I can watch (and copy) DVDs from any region, with or without CSS. I can strip macrovision, compress to MPEG4, and archive any video DVD I've come across. I can do all this on commodity hardware I assembled myself, under a free OS, using free software in a lonely shack in North Dakota powered with solar panels I bought as government surplus with cash in Missouri.*

      * That too, was an attempt at humor. Please laugh, or at least chuckle or grin.

    4. Re:Region two? by forged · · Score: 1

      No hard feelings were meant either... Everybody can rip DVDs and make DivX, but that defeats the purpose of having DVDs (collector items), right..? :)

    5. Re:Region two? by cheezehead · · Score: 1

      Hah! Finally the real reason behind region coding becomes clear! All the time we thought it was a conspiracy by the movie industry, but now it's clear that the US government is behind this! Can't have American minds poisoned with this Euro-commie garbage ("Hitchhiking" is bad, and "Red Dwarf" must be a Russian guy)! The people who understand anything about region coding are beyond salvation, they have been exposed to too much information already.

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    6. Re:Region two? by cheezehead · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but there are two types of players that could solve the region problem (I'm not talking about DivX, or ripping or whatever, I don't know anything about that).

      First, you can get a "codeless" DVD player. These things ignore the region coding. They're a little expensive , though. But (!), the movie industry doesn't like these things, so they started releasing DVD's with a slightly modified region 1 code. Some of these DVD's will not play on a codeless player!

      I'm not endorsing any vendors, but doing a search on Google with "codeless DVD" gives several links to places where you can buy these players. Usually they sell solutions for the PAL/NTSC (often built into the codeless players) and 110V/220V issue too.

      Second, you can get a "multi-region" player. It just recognizes the region code, and adjusts itself as needed. A friend of mine has one of these. I think they can play any region DVD. Alas, they are also substantially more expensive than regular players.

      A Google search for "multi-region DVD" also results in several links, however, the companies selling these seem to be mainly in the UK or Australia.

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    7. Re:Region two? by Monsieur_F · · Score: 1

      The biggest problem with that zones is that having a Zone2 DVD does not mean that we will enjoy subtitles in French, German, Spanish, etc...

      So, there is _no benefit at all_ for the consumer, only a limit for them.

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    8. Re:Region two? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i don't know, but here in europe, it's mostly the cheapest dvd players that are codefree...

    9. Re:Region two? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i don't know, but here in europe, it's mostly the cheapest dvd players that are codefree...

      You mean it's possible to buy players that aren't code free? Where can you buy them, and why wouldn't anyone want to?

    10. Re:Region two? by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 2

      Codeless players aren't expensive - mine was one of the cheapest ones available about a year ago (REC R800C - £180). And it easily plays RCE 'protected' DVDs too.

    11. Re:Region two? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why did you make me an enemy? Are you the one you clicked my worse than Goatse masturbating with shit link?

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  13. I loves the books.... by Teancom · · Score: 2

    liked the radio broadcasts (kazaa rules!) and turned the BBC crap off after about 1 and 1/2 hours. That drek is unwatchable. This coming from someone who likes Red Dwarf! The special effects are worse than cheesy, the acting wasn't, the costumes were rotten and they seemed to change stuff simply for the sake of changing it. All in all, to say I was dissapointed would be an understatement... Save your money and spend it on that new Holy Grail dvd....

    1. Re:I loves the books.... by oddsheep · · Score: 1

      liked the radio broadcasts (kazaa rules!) and turned the BBC crap off after about 1 and 1/2 hours.

      Both Radio and TV Series are BBC produced.

      The special effects are worse than cheesy, the acting wasn't, the costumes were rotten and they seemed to change stuff simply for the sake of changing it.

      Any person raised on a diet of BBC's Doctor Who throughout the late 70 - 80s automatically suspended their disbelief of special effects/costume standards in return for an amused acceptance coupled with enjoyment.

      As for 'changing stuff', Douglas Adams did this plenty of times in the transistion from Radio to Books to Television. The early books are far closer to the TV than the radio in many parts.

    2. Re:I loves the books.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By DA's own admission, the TV series was not all it could have been. This may be due in no small part to the producer(?), Alan JW Bell, who has worked on a number of BBC projects (like the now terminally unfunny Last of the Summer Wine). Apprently DA and Bell did not see eye to eye on a number of issues.

      I first got into HHGTTG in about 1979 when I heard it on the radio as a nine year old. Liking Doctor Who I could relate to the wonderfully lo-fi TV show so, to be honest, the cruddy effects actually enhance my experience (maybe it's nostalgia kicking in...)

      I'm not sure what you mean by lack of acting, given that the only important differences in cast were Ford Prefect (David Dixon on TV, Geoff McGivern on Radio) and Trillian (Sandra Dickinson on TV, Susan Sheridan on radio - who also happens to do the voices for Budgie, the helicopter). I do admit, though that Zaphod's second head was a bit of a mistake...

      DA also mentioned at various times that by necessity, the TV show had to be slightly different to other versions. Lots of the radio shows had a lot of quite funny verbal gags, and of course this transferred well to the books. TV is not quite so good in that respect and of course, some material had to be made more visual. Real favourites of mine are the Rob Lord guide graphics, some of which are stowed away to be used as desktop backgrounds when the mood takes me and Marvin. What more can you say?

  14. Why Region Encode? by Sloppy · · Score: 2

    For some reason, it just seems bizarre that BBC would region-code something. I thought they were legit.

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    1. Re:Why Region Encode? by forged · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You're meant to wait until the region 1 DVD is released.

    2. Re:Why Region Encode? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If is is ever released at all...

      Example: Peter Jackson's film "Brain Dead" (Dead Alive). Produced in New Zealand over 10 years ago but only available as a Region 1 NTSC DVD =(.

    3. Re:Why Region Encode? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      0r hax0r th3 r3g10n c0d3

    4. Re:Why Region Encode? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "Brain Dead"...only available as a Region 1

      It's called targetting the audience. ;-)

  15. Typical response by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Word has it that this is a region 2 dvd

    OMIGOD!!!1!1!1!! it wont play in my DVD player!!1!! Teh man si Kepping me dwon!!!!!!!!11!!

  16. Re:Don't you check noticeboard in Alpha Centauri by AtomicBomb · · Score: 1

    I have checked my copy Hitchhiker's Guide to Galaxy -- Chapter 3:

    There's no point in acting all surprised about it. All the DVD zoning and global domination plans have been on display in your local RIAA office in Alpha Centauri for n f*cking years, so you've had plenty of time to lodge any formal complaint and it's far too late to start making a fuss about it now.

    btw, did anyone release a Hitchhiker's Guide to Galaxy for PDA? It feels my imagination of the guide book.

  17. And how much will it cost? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    42 of course.

  18. Re:Don't you check noticeboard in Alpha Centauri by Schnapple · · Score: 1

    Just fire up the text adventure game on your PDA using a Frotz interpeter - next best thing

  19. Region codes cut both ways... by JScarpace · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Hitchhiker's DVD may only be region 2 for now, but on the other side of the coin, the March release of the Star Trek: The Next Generation season 1 box set will be region 1 (U.S.) only.

    How about a trade? We get the BBC to release the six episodes of HHG in region 1 over here, and we'll give them 26 episodes of ST:TNG for region 2 in return. I think we'd come out better on the deal, but hopefully the Brits will be too busy watching the ST:TNG episodes to notice. :-)

    1. Re:Region codes cut both ways... by dstone · · Score: 2, Funny

      You're reading /. and you're conforming to DVD Region Controls? Intruder! Intruder!

    2. Re:Region codes cut both ways... by Amanset · · Score: 3, Informative

      Sorry, but we get it as well on March 4th.

    3. Re:Region codes cut both ways... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This may be the first time US citizens have felt regions... In Europe almost all DVD's are released ~3 months later than in USA... NOW it cuts both ways.

      "Star Trek: The Next Generation season 1 box set will be region 1 (U.S.) only."
      Sorry, that's not true. Startrek TNG is also scheduled in Europe to be released around March.

  20. Hardly worth waiting for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
    On DVD ? what for ?

    I have owned the BBC series on VHS for years and the tapes slowly gather dust.

    The production is cheap and outdated, moves far too slowly, has very few entertaining spots, and the acting is not that great either.

    The original radio sketches were far better.

    Oh yes, and Trillian is blonde.

    1. Re:Hardly worth waiting for by (outer-limits) · · Score: 1

      Mod this as redundant, if you must but, I agree with what he said. The radio series was brilliant, and Zaphod's second head on the TV series was so bad I could have done better. Still, no one else has made a better version of it yet.

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  21. better than PBS! by julez · · Score: 1

    I'm so happy to hear this! Now I can finally retire the old VHS tape I have of the series that my dad taped off a PBS marathon. It was starting to wear thin.

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  22. available on shopBBC by hazem · · Score: 1

    It's available for purchase on ShopBBC:

    http://www.bbcshop.com/bbc_shop/default.asp?shop =b bc&dept_id=101

    They do state that in fact this is a region 2 DVD. I imagine if enough Americans wrote the BBC to complain, they would change this. That's a lot of revenue to give up!

    1. Re:available on shopBBC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      But that site also says that the "Blue Planet" DVD is Region 2, when in fact I have a copy sitting in my hand, and the box and the disc both say Region 0.

      Americans - you will be able to get this for your players.

    2. Re:available on shopBBC by hazem · · Score: 1

      Americans - you will be able to get this for your players.

      My guess is that it will become available under a different distributor in the US.

      But, we're Americans, and we want it NOW! (That's what it means to be an American, non?)

    3. Re:available on shopBBC by AgTiger · · Score: 2

      I just wrote a feedback to BBCShop explaining that where I grew up, I had access to the TV series via a PBS station. That's what got me started on the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. I also mentioned that I had purchased this on VHS a long time ago, but the tape has long since died from age and tape wear. :-(

      I explained I was really looking forward to purchasing a DVD of one of my favourite (spelling intentional, when in Rome...) series, but was vastly disappointed to learn that they had chosen to encode it for Europe (region 2) only.

      I wonder what kind of response I'll get...

      If I get one in a timely fashion, I'll follow up my own post and place the information in this thread.

      If you go to write, don't forget to site the ISBN number for this product, specifically: ISBN: BBCDVD1092

    4. Re:available on shopBBC by vrmlknight · · Score: 1

      Do not listen to this Anonymous Coward he is trying to get to you to buy it and wast your money please dont fall for it BTW why is he/she moddded up?

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  23. So help a brother out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i have WinDVD and a DVD-ROM player (which win2k ID's as region 1). what do I need to watch this damn thing? I saw Region Killer's page, but it doesn't support WinDVD or FreeDVD, only PowerDVD.

    1. Re:So help a brother out by Chuckaluphagus · · Score: 3, Informative

      For the software side of things, I use DVD Genie, which works with a number of different players, including WinDVD.

      However, you also need to have a DVD-ROM drive that is region-agnostic. You can check this with DVD Genie, one of the tabs in the program allows for this. If the drive is RPC-1(Region Protection Control, I think), your drive doesn't care what region encoding the disc has, and all you need is DVD Genie. Most drives are RPC-2, though, meaning that it will allow for a certain number of discs from different regions to be played before it "locks" on the final one, usually the fifth switch. Many can be changed to RPC-1 by installing different firmware(I did this with the drives on both my desktop and my notebook.). The best place I know to find region-free firmware is The Firmware Page.

      Good luck to you.

  24. Available only through a PBS pledge drive by Torgo's+Pizza · · Score: 1, Funny

    Knowing our luck, it'll only be available through a pledge drive. Sigh... wonder if it comes with a canvas tote bag?

  25. Oh fuck you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You don't expect me to read all that shit do you?

    1. Re:Oh fuck you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fuck, I did not put my sig

      -Metrollica

      By the way, you must be the one who did this

  26. If only Douglas Adams had lived to see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...these DVDs, including the 10 mins. of cut footage!

    Also, if he'd only lived to see the leader of the free world being assaulted by a pretzel! How pathetic and bizarre, yet hilarious...it would appeal to his twisted, brilliant sense of humor.

    Of course, Adams would have known that there is more to the story than meets the eye...

    1. Re:If only Douglas Adams had lived to see... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shhhh... you'll panic the herd.

      Dubya might as well be the leader of the free world. The dark circle of interests which control him will never be seen anyway, and he's as good a strawman as any. Just think of him as a symbol. He's the map, not the place.

      Of course, for "free world" read "those places not currently on the shit-list of many major corporations".

    2. Re:If only Douglas Adams had lived to see... by Atheilen · · Score: 1

      I'm just reading The Ultimate Hitchiker's Guide and I love Douglas Adams's sense of humour! He'd love the pretzel thing. I want to see those DVD's.

  27. 42nd post! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ha ha ha ha ha!

  28. Is this Region 2 business any more than rumour? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's the source of this information? IMHO the BBC are very unlikely to release this disc region encoded. Typically they like to release stuff in Region 0 (certainly the odd one or two BBC DVD's I've got are R0).

    The only reason I can think of (and it's extremely unlikely) is if they've got a deal with the people doing the movies. But that seems so unlikely that I don't think anyone has anything to worry about. I will eat my hat if this thing comes out region-encoded, people.

  29. Somerset! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Visit somerset, the weired and wonderful somerset!

  30. Region 2, Region 1, Region 4 ??? by LordBhaal · · Score: 0



    This is why I like my DVD player so much. Changable DVD regions. Not Region Free, but I can set it to be Region 4 for all the rentals, Region 1 for the bulk of my collection, and Region 2 for Buffy (which seems to get better DVD collections in the UK, and I was in the UK at the time, so...)

    Does NTSC/PAL playback, and switchable voltage too.

    Pity it won't read DVD-R's.

    1. Re:Region 2, Region 1, Region 4 ??? by vrmlknight · · Score: 1

      what player do you have?

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  31. BBC DVD region coding by e6003 · · Score: 5, Informative

    BBC DVD releases are usually regions 2 and 4. The reason for this (more specifically, no region 1) is because BBC Worldwide handles the marketing of BBC video releases in the UK and Australia/NZ. However for the US it sub-licences the rights and BBC video releases are issued by Warner, who decide their own release schedule. It's because of this contract that the discs employ region coding to "prevent" them being played in the US. Although you can import the release and use a region-free player, remember you will need a PAL (or dual-standard) TV set and these are AFAIK less common in the US than they are in Europe! This applies even if using a computer DVD drive to play the disc, unless you just want to view it on your monitor.

    1. Re:BBC DVD region coding by Chuckaluphagus · · Score: 1

      The computers I've seen that have a video-out(Composite or S-Video) usually allow for the output to TV to be set to either NTSC or PAL.

    2. Re:BBC DVD region coding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Most modern European TV's can handle both PAL-50Hz, PAL-60Hz and NTSC pretty easily. I get quite a bit of Region 1 anime imported from the US and they all play great on my chipped Pioneer DV444K.

      As far as I'm aware, if your dvd player can output in plain RGB and your TV can support 60Hz RGB input, then you should be able to watch any format video on it.

      I realise thats a bit of a problem in the US where most TV's have only [video + L audio + R audio] inputs. If only you all had the all encompassing SCART connector on all your TV's!!!

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    3. Re:BBC DVD region coding by stefanb · · Score: 1
      [Y]ou will need a PAL (or dual-standard) TV set.

      Nope. Although the resolution and frame rate do depend on the source material, the actual encoding of the frames is completly independend of any (old) analog standards--it's MPEG 2 video.

      As with game consoles, it might be advatageous to have a DVD/TV combo that can reproduce the original resolution and frame rate, but for most TV material, the conversion doesn't really degrade the image too much.

    4. Re:BBC DVD region coding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you play a DVD on your computer the TV format will be irrelevant. If your video card has TV out set the format to whatever you like and this will be what you get...

    5. Re:BBC DVD region coding by Keith+Mickunas · · Score: 1

      Nope, its still PAL. The framerate and resolution are in PAL, its just compressed using MPEG 2. Without a converter, whether its in the DVD player, TV, or a separate box, the image will be squished.

    6. Re:BBC DVD region coding by stefanb · · Score: 1
      OK, just to be pedantic: as I said, and you rightly repeated, the framerate and resolution will usually be those of the source material.

      However, since the DVD standard has quite a number of allowable framerate/resolution combinations available, all DVD players I've ever heard about will scanrate and resolution-convert the image to fit the output standard.

      So, it might help to have the "proper" output format and TV for a certain DVD, but it's not necessary.

    7. Re:BBC DVD region coding by Chelloveck · · Score: 2

      I know that I, for one, am really looking forward to seeing HHGttG dubbed into American, just like the Region 1 releases of "Walking With Dinosaurs" and "The Planets". Enough of those stuffy British accents, I say!

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    8. Re:BBC DVD region coding by joekool · · Score: 1

      reigons 4...and 2? 42? surly this is no coincidince!

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  32. Serves you right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Serves you right to be hit by the region coding this way.

    Not being able to play Region 1 DVDs deprives us of thousands of movies -- some of which will never be R2 released!

    I certainly hope that BBC will not release a R1 version of this or of any other of their brilliant series like Black Adder and Fawlty Towers until the region coding gets abolished.

    1. Re:Serves you right by LordNightwalker · · Score: 2, Interesting

      AFAIK, there is a region 1 version of Blackadder, and it's better than the region 2 version... Has more extras. One or two out of the series episodes and some historical stuff about the UK concerning the eras in which the four seasons of Blackadder are set... Stuff they didn't feel were necessary for the European release because they assume that the whole of Europe knows Brittish history, or so it seems...

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  33. Go get the Mega-Adams.tar by thrysoee · · Score: 4, Informative
    I made the obvious Google and found this treat:
    The Douglas Adams media archive is presented here by the wi2600.org groups for your enjoyment. This allso is to serve as a tribute to Mr. Adams's great, but suddely shortened carrer. Those who have not heard his voice, and those who know it well, will both enjoy having this material available. We will miss him! For convienience, you may download the "Mega-Adams.tar" which is a simple tarball of the entire Adams collection.
    Go get your copy of the Mega-Adams.tar, enjoy!
  34. Re:Good job! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's called Comunism.

  35. Re:Good job! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's spelt Communism shit for brains.

    -Metrollica

  36. And note the ad for Mad Max by (outer-limits) · · Score: 1
    This version has the original Aussie soundtrack. For you non Aussies, a chance to catch up on some strine.

    That is how it sounds when we say Australian!

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    1. Re:And note the ad for Mad Max by checkitout · · Score: 1

      This version has the original Aussie soundtrack.

      Yeah, i can't believe it took them THIS long to finally release the australian soundtrack to the Us market. I don't know if other areas have been in a similar situation. The mere idea that we would need it to be overdubbed in the first place, is rather frustrating...even if it was originally released in pre-"Crocodile Dundee" days and many Americans had never heard an Australian accent before.

  37. Babelfish Technology by Nathdot · · Score: 3, Funny

    Thanks to new Babelfish technology there will be no multi-language versions of the HHGTTG DVD.

    Just insert the DVD and let the fish do the rest.

    :)

    1. Re:Babelfish Technology by oddsheep · · Score: 1

      Is the DVD placed in a same place as the fish? Not sure the human form could deal with this...

  38. I'd get this but... by edo-01 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    ... it's terrible. Even allowing for the early 80's BBC sci-fi show "look", ie; shot on betacam under lighting that looks like it was lifted from a bus station.

    The sum total of Ed Bye's "direction" seems to have been to just stick the camera in the middle of the set and make the actors run through long scenes in one (often awkward and badly timed) take. It's like watching a stageplay that hasn't been rehearsed, only a stageplay wouldn't have been lit with 40,000 flourescent tubes. Even worse is that they changed Trillian from a no-nonsense scientist type into a squeaking brainless gangster-moll. I'm not sure who was behind that decision but her performence alone is bad enough to make you want to shove a fork in your eye. There's a few points that are kinda ok, like the sequence on the Vogon ship, but overall it's a mess.

    I grew up with and love the radio series and the books. I really want to see this as a show/movie done right, and I only hope that DA's death won't derail the plans for the movie.

    1. Re:I'd get this but... by Kanon · · Score: 1

      Don't be shy. Tell us what you really think :)

      If I were you I'd never, ever watch Blake's 7. :)

    2. Re:I'd get this but... by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I grew up with and love the radio series and the books.

      The added advantage with the radio series is that it is made available on region free media, ie CD and audio-tape.

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    3. Re:I'd get this but... by option8 · · Score: 2

      am i the only one that purchased the series on VHS because of the content and not the production quality?

      seriously, it's bad. laughable. almost as if it was done intentionally to make the humo(u)r have to carry the series, which it did. admirably.

      anyhow, don't make a big fuss about how awful the directing or photography was. if you were a fan of Dr. Who, you'd think HHGttG was a Bergman film by comparison...

  39. Off-Topic: The Whale by ewhac · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is easily one of my most favorite of Adams' explanations on where he got an idea. This is a quote from The Original Hitchhiker Radio Scripts:

    "Ah yes, the whale. Well, this came about as a result of watching an episode of a dangerously insane TV detective show called Cannon in which people got shot the whole time for incredibly little reason. They would just happen to be walking across the street, and they would simply get killed, regardless of what their own plans for the rest of the day might have been.

    "I began to find the sheer arbitrariness of this rather upsetting, not just because characters were getting killed, but because nobody ever seemed to care about it one way or another. Anybody who might have cared about any of these people -- family, friends, even the postman -- was kept firmly offstage. There was never any, 'Good night sweet Prince,' or, 'She should have died hereafter,' or even, 'Look you bastard, I was meant to be playing squash with this guy tonight,' just bang, clear them out of the way, on to the next. They were merely, excuse me, Cannonfodder.

    "I thought I'd have a go at this. I'd write in a character whose sole function was to be killed for the sake of a small detail in the plot, and then damn well make the audience care about it, even if none of the other characters in the story did. I suppose I must have succeeded because I received quite a number of letters saying how cruel and callous this section was -- letters I certainly would not have received if I had simply mentioned the whale's fate incidentally and passed on. I probably wouldn't have received them if it had been a human either."
    -- Douglas N. Adams

    Schwab

  40. Licensing fees? by acb · · Score: 2

    Perhaps making it viewable in non-domestic regions could be construed as making it available to non-domestic markets, making the BBC liable for additional licensing fees, royalties to actors, or what have you. Or perhaps locking out other regions gives the BBC the option of licensing it through another distributor for overseas markets.

  41. Patience, Region 1'ers, Patience by Masem · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Using "The Prisoner" and "Dr. Who" as previous examples of BBC releases, we'll probably see a Region 1 DVD in about 6 months. Both of the forementioned series (in the case of DW, various installments) were out in the UK and other Region 2 before Region 1, typically between 4 to 8 months.

    Given that we also have MP, Blackadder, and Faulty Towers now out on R1 DVD sets, I very much doubt BBC is *stupid* enough to not put out a HHGTTG R1 DVD.

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    1. Re:Patience, Region 1'ers, Patience by lunadude · · Score: 1

      Most of the titles (region 1) are released by A&E. I wonder if HHGTTG will be an A&E or BBC release.

    2. Re:Patience, Region 1'ers, Patience by mccalli · · Score: 2
      Using "The Prisoner" and "Dr. Who" as previous examples of BBC releases...

      The Prisoner was by Polygram, currently owned by Carlton TV. It was a commercial TV series, not from the BBC.

      Cheers,
      Ian

    3. Re:Patience, Region 1'ers, Patience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Using "The Prisoner" and "Dr. Who" as previous examples of BBC releases, we'll probably see a Region 1 DVD in about 6 months. Both of the forementioned series (in the case of DW, various installments) were out in the UK and other Region 2 before Region 1, typically between 4 to 8 months.

      The Prisoner was an ITC production, not BBC, and you don't want it used as the model for a US HGTTG release. The British one comes in a nice 5-disc set, for 60 (about $85). The American one has the episodes out of order, and comes in five 2-disc sets for $40 each.

  42. tv series by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    everyone slagging off the tv series is only doing so because they heard the radio series first and the tv show didn't meet expectations. well i grew up watching the tv series and it kicks ass!!

  43. Because the BBC is a big pile of arse. by mjwise · · Score: 1

    If it's any consolation to you, Doctor Who DVD releases are also region-encoded, and the only three that are even available in the US are from 1970, 1977, and 1983 respectively! Why do they region encode them? Guess so we don't get to see the British DVD releases before we're allowed to!! Oh, wait, they're already out over here on VHS anyway. Well, I'm sure region encoding Dr. Who serves some purpose, but I haven't figured it out yet.

    And remember, this is the same BBC that let Lionheart Television/BBC Worldwide mismanage Doctor Who into television oblivion in the US. They priced it low for years, making it attractive for PBS affiliates looking for a low-cost show, and then jacked up the price quite a bit, thinking stations would keep buying. Wrong. There's a reason you don't see it on your local PBS affiliate any more. It's too damned expensive. And the price never went back down even though Dr. Who's existence on US TV is nearly nonexistant.

    1. Re:Because the BBC is a big pile of arse. by Zeinfeld · · Score: 2
      a reason you don't see it on your local PBS affiliate any more. It's too damned expensive. And the price never went back down even though Dr. Who's existence on US TV is nearly nonexistant.

      The BBC now has its own TV channel in the US - BBC America. When ATT called me up to try to get me to switch to digital cable they led their pitch with BBC America. Of course I have had Dish TV for that purpose for years (with PVR).

      Dr Who has appeared on BBC America in the past and given the number of episodes they have and the time to fill it is likely to appear again. The price that PBS was paying was ludicrously low, in many cases $50 an episode, the BBC can make a much better return by marketting its product itself.

      The other reason that the prices of BBC programs have been going up is that the actors have renegotiated their deal on repeat fees to include foreign markets. The BBC persuaded Equity that it will eventually turn BBC America into a 'must carry' cable channel which would give it a revenue equivalent to that of CNN. So Equity was prepared to take a lower up front pay raise in return for repeat fees on the US network.

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  44. PG scans only public domain works by yerricde · · Score: 2

    You can get the text of almost any book at Project Gutenberg (http://promo.net/pg/)

    Yeah, but they won't take anything first published on or after 1923 because of the Bono Act. You'll have to request it in one of the alt.binaries.e-book groups.

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  45. Re: Project Gutenberg by The+Smith · · Score: 1

    Er... have you ever actually visited Project Gutenberg? It only offers books which have fallen into the public domain, which means, in practice, books older than about 1923. You certainly won't find any Douglas Adams books there.

  46. Secure Video Path; telecine by yerricde · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The computers I've seen that have a video-out(Composite or S-Video) usually allow for the output to TV to be set to either NTSC or PAL.

    Yes, but they also allow apps (such as DVD player) to override such a setting. Otherwise, the drivers probably won't get Microsoft's signature. I haven't read anything important about this exact issue, but if MS Secure Audio Path is any indication of the direction Microsoft is heading for the operating system that will come with your next PC...

    Besides, the telecine method is different. With a 50Hz video technology like PAL, they just speed the 24Hz film up 4% and draw each film frame into two video fields. In 60Hz formats such as NTSC or PAL-M, they draw each frame for three fields, then two, then three, then two... I doubt that most DVD players can convert NTSC telecine to PAL telecine or vice versa, so they just output the format that most closely matches the encoded frame-rate.

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  47. Foreign Black Adder fans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    the whole of Europe knows Brittish history

    The non-British people I know watch Black Adder or Monty Python all seem to be anglophiles to some extent and know British history and cultural mannerisms surprisingly well.

  48. why bother by BiggyP · · Score: 2, Insightful

    whats the point? doesn't everyone realise that the TV series was absoloutely dreadful next to the radio4 dramatisation and of course the books, and all the hardware you need for that is a cassete player and imagination.

  49. Damn... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just bought the box set on VHS with a Christmas voucher.

    Ho-Hum

  50. Region encoding... by Raleel · · Score: 2

    Oh geez...why. I cannot figure it out...there isn't even a sound business reason.

    Note to whoever: Release it region 1 in a timely fashion (i.e. like how about at the same time) and I would buy this. Release it late, it will get ripped and distributed all over the net, and I won't feel particularly guilty about copying it. You will never be able to prove that you lost money from me, because you will have to prove that I would have bought a region 2 dvd player and your flic.

    You know what? Pretty much goes the same for over seas. I don't think that other countries should be deprived of our cinema just because you are staging releases all over.

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  51. Big deal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Word has it that this is a region 2 dvd.

    That's fine. I'm sure it'll be on Gnutella and Morpheus a few hours after release.
  52. Does anyone has a pocket version? by GdoL · · Score: 1

    Can I get a pocket version of the series? I really wanted do get it to show some pals form andromeda.

    Much appreciated.

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  53. divx by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny


    Region? Last time I looked, divx ;) doesn't use them...

  54. It's only fair by Paul+Boven · · Score: 3, Interesting

    After all, it's the Americans and especially their movie-industry that came up with this insane region-system. And the main reason they got away with it is that their domestic audience would get the releases first anyway. So I think it's only fair that some Americans get to experience what it is like to be on the 'wrong' side of the region system, and I hope it happens more often. Who knows, they might even learn something from it. I mean, you can only get shafted by the big corporations so often in return for brown-nosing them, somebody is going to get the hint, right?

    I'm not trolling, I'm just bitter.

  55. This is terrible!!! by toupsie · · Score: 3, Funny

    Holy Zarqoun's Knees! You mean I won't be able to use this on my Region 1 DVD player? Belgium!

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  56. Multi-region players ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    In the UK, multi-region players are quite common (or the manufacturer doesn't state it's multi-region in the instructions, but you can find a "remote hack" [sequence of buttons on the remote to permanently set multi-region] on the Net for these).

    Of course, we poor folks in the UK *need* multi-region because the stupid region system heavily penalises UK DVD users (we get the UK releases 3-6 months after the US, they cost more in the UK and they often have less features). About half my DVD collection is now Region 1 because of this (and yes, I have a UK multi-region DVD player).

    I must say I'm amused to see the rare reverse of this - everyone up in arms about there not being a Region 1 HGTTG DVD, whilst we Brits are up in arms about *thousands* of Region 1 DVDs not getting a UK release (or being "butchered" by the time they do get a UK release).

    Solution: More US folks should buy a multi-region DVD player - after all, we have to in the UK to get a decent catalogue of discs (i.e. from the US).

    Just to rub salt into the wounds, I suspect syndication is the reason that we're about to get a 3-DVD box set of Futurama Season 1 in the UK (probably Region 2 only), possibly years before the US do !

  57. Re: Region Encoding by t_allardyce · · Score: 1

    Suggest we start a massive flame on region encoding. May i start by saying:

    "grow up america, we sit here quietly waiting for your region 1 dvds to be changed, and when it happens to you you start complaining. It was _your_ country if i remember correctly that started this whole scam with your capitalist pig-dog corporations. If i could be bothered, i would go hi-jack a plane and bomb something. However, i am lazy, so you are all safe."

    when my communist regieme comes to power, all media will be made free, and the dogs will be taken out and shot.

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  58. Typical of humans... by peccary · · Score: 2
    ... not to know the difference between a robot and an
    • android
    .
  59. You're too kind by John+Guilt · · Score: 1

    Really; the acting was worse too (the actors were probably tired of yet another go 'round, or mostly had done "Dr Who"'s and assumed that that was how bad you were supposed to be on camera).

    If I'd seen it first, I think I would have stayed away from the series in all of its forms (as it was, I heard bootleg BBC tapes first, and still [coincidentally, of course] think they're best).

  60. I've seen this. by JimPooley · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's a two DVD set, where DVD 1 contains the six episodes of the TV series in their longest cut available, coming to 3hrs and 20 mins. The DVD includes "Production Notes" which come up like subitles and are snippets of information about the scene you're watching.
    The second DVD is stuffed to the gills with extras, some of which have never been seen before.
    It's a tremendous package and an essential purchase for all Hitch-Hiker fans.

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  61. Re:Oh fuck you - worse that goatse.cx - dont click by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    christ...

  62. Region matters not... by KC7GR · · Score: 1

    ...with the right DVD player. ;-)

    Even if this does turn out to be an R2 DVD, I'll order it anyway. Owners of Pioneer's DVL-909 or DV-505 players should definitely think about it as well, because there's a wonderful little mod you can do at this link:

    http://www.home-cinema.de/DVD_codefree/pioneer.h tm

    This will, assuming you have the same firmware version as illustrated in the photos, render your player region-switchable via the remote. I did it to mine, and it worked fine.

    WARNING! Do NOT attempt the mod unless you have the proper tools, including an anti-static work surface, temperature-controlled and grounded soldering station, AND the skill to use the above. It's pretty easy to screw your player up beyond any hope of home-hacking if you don't know what you're doing.

    Another link:

    http://www.codefreedvd.com/dvd_dvdplayers.htm

    ...has all kinds of info about region-independent DVD players and lots of other goodies.

    Enjoy! I'll be looking forward to this one for sure.

    --

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    Blue Feather Technologies

  63. Region 2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does this actually effect people over there in the states?

    I know here in the UK, nearly every DVD player sold has a region hack already built into the firmware, so its just a few taps on the remote. Ones that don't are sold pre-chipped.

    Even the big stores now know that people just don't want single region players, and are well briefed on which can be swapped to multi region easily.

    It this the same situation over there?

  64. You can get the anthology for just $15 Re:extras by Chalex · · Score: 1

    After hearing my computer science teacher and older geeks joke about this book, i decided that it was time to read it... So just in case you STILL don't own a copy, the 5-book trilogy is only $15 in one volume. Here's the amazon link.

  65. Towel Day by mgandhi2 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Remember, May 25th is Towel Day in honor of Douglas Adams. On this day, you can carry a towel with you everywhere you go. If your boss rips into you during the day, just cover your head with the towel. If you spill your coffee, you can always use the towel to wipe it up.

    "Normality, I repeat, we have reached normality. Anything you can't cope with is therefore your own problem."

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  66. typical by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Slashdot (to MPAA): You fucking fascists. We hate you.
    MPAA: But look at these shiny colors!
    Slashdot: Oooh! How much?

  67. Suck me, MPAA by Legion303 · · Score: 1, Troll
    Region 2, you say? Guess I'll have to download the DVD rip.

    -Legion

  68. No way... by MosesJones · · Score: 2


    StarTrek for HHGG ? I think not. On the oneside we have one of the funniest and best scripted Sci-Fi programmes of all time, on the otherside we have a very large budget and bipeds...

    HHGG is the question as well as the answer :-)

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  69. Its up on Amazon.co.uk.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Already available for pre-order!
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005O CT S/

  70. Re:Don't you check noticeboard in Alpha Centauri by datajosh · · Score: 1
    btw, did anyone release a Hitchhiker's Guide to Galaxy for PDA? It feels my imagination of the guide book.

    The books can be found in PDF format if you look around the web enough. But h2g2 itself hasn't been put onto a PDA yet that I'm aware of, but that would be cool. The closest thing there is right now is the WAP version of h2g2 at mobile.h2g2.com. Maybe there's still hope for the real life version of the Guide Douglas Adams was planning.

  71. REGION 1 RELEASE - APRIL 2002 by AgTiger · · Score: 2

    I got my reply from the BBC regarding region 1 releases.

    From: Laura Palmer address_removed@bbc.co.uk
    Subject: RE: This is feedback the BBC Web Shop
    Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:04:37 -0000

    "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" will be released on DVD in North
    America in late April.

  72. Well, it is PAL by Jammer@CMH · · Score: 1

    Region coding it is a little silly, but it would keep it from being sold in the US, or Japan, or other NTCS countries. European DVDs are encoded in PAL, rather than NTSC, so a UK region 0 disk still won't play on most US TV sets without a PAL to NTSC converter, or a DVD player with an inboard (software) converter.