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FreeBSD 4.5 NOT Released (Updated)
Jordon Hubbard writes: "The latest release in the FreeBSD 4.X branch has been released after an extensive release engineering process. Important bugfixes for the TCP stack and NFS are included in this release. You can view the release notes and find a mirror here." Update: 01/24 21:42 GMT by Hemos :Fake submissions, not really released. Yah. Comedic value provided for the day.
And now, a page from CmdrTaco's diary:
Thursday, November 8th, 2001
11:34 am
Me want some DICK.......
Have you ever felt like you were going out of your mind...
That is the way i feel today. I'm looking at every man that walks
by my cubicle, here at Slashdot headquarters, wondering what would
it be like to suck them off.
I used to do that when I had other jobs and sometimes thats the
reason we ended up having sex. NOW.. if i was relly horny I would
take my friend at one of my jobs, tell him to meet me in the
last bathroom stall and I would suck him off.. or just get a taste.
There is one good thing about having sex on a nice cold desk...
and that is that the clean up is just a wipe away. OR if your like
me... a lick away.
Nowadays the one thing that I have a problem with is that I want to
suck a man that has red hair. I think the pink long cock, with its
cherry color head, throbing vane would look so great. Having red
hair would kinda be like if they had shaved. Nice blondish red hair
that you could see through. The sight of the balls being seen so
well and being the whitest of white that a person could be. WOW!
That sounds great... IF YOU KNOW A RED HEAD PLEASE send them my
way... I want they dick. Until then I will take any dick that I
can. I had a person come over to my home one day that never had a
person give him a blow job. You know that was the best feeling I
have ever had. Knowing that I gave someone something that made
them feel good... now I just wish he would become a friend so I
could suck him more. Name of Katz, JonKatz. Just wanted to write
and wanted to voice my request. So if you know of ANYONE that needs
their cock sucked, or if you need your cock sucked, cum to me...
-Rob "CmdrTaco" Malda
In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women!-H.Simpson
W00H00! LOSERS! U SUK!
It's first post time again....
[talon]
I think this release also comes with an official Sun JDK. Is this correct?
Did the FreeBSD port of the JDK make it into 4.5?
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.5R/notes.html
sure points to a bad link, too bad I dont know where
I thought BSD is dead? I read some comments on Slashdot about it.
Odd, I was lead to believe that *BSD was dying.
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin [amdest.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dead
Will we see the improvements in FreeBSD 4.5 reflected in Darwin, the core of MacOS X?
Is Apple syncing Darwin releases with FreeBSD releases?
I just submitted a pr for an update of pure-ftpd to 1.0.8, in hope that would be merged before 4.5 was released. :(
Too late
{{.sig}}
Take a peek at this:
http://nvidia.netexplorer.org/
Are you sure 4.5-FINAL was released? The RC3 came out just last night and the group was scheduling about RC4 next week. And now Slashdot is reporting on 4.5-Final? I am not sure if this is a fake or not... The FreeBSD web site has not been updated yet. Waiting...
looks like the links on that page are broken, and it seems that 4.5-release hasn't made it's way out to all the ftp sites yet.
in the mean time, here are the relnotes for 4.5-rc3 i386 alpha
/. jumps the gun, again. It hasn't even /. Never
been released yet. They're still at
release candidate 3. Naught
check your facts.
The i386 Release notes give me a 404. Anyone know what's been updated (other than TCP and NFS)?
FREEBSD RULZ!!!!
c'mon, everyone and their fucking grandma knows that bsd sucks ass and the "bsd rulz, linux sux" advocates are a bunch of pathetic cocksuckers. why waste time with boring announcements?
Linus should be sued for false advertising. If the pizza store down the street put up a giant sign that said "FREE PIZZA" but when you came in to get it he insisted that you vomit up all the pizza you ate before you left then you know he's be sued.
This is another example of a double standard by the US government. Socialist organizations such as the members of Linux always get special breaks and perks while big corporations are forced to bend over and pay. The members of Linux need to realize that us big corporations are tired of this and so we are going to stage a sit in to protest. The CEO's of the Fortune 500 companies are all going to get together and handcuff themselves to Linus' door knob on Saturday at 1:00 PM. All that are interested in protecting equal rights are welcome to join in.
If we work together then we can get these racist laws revoked!! Say NO to racism. DON'T USE LINUX!!
Official release-date is Jan 26th, as can be seen here.
Slashdot jumped the gun, again.
You could try watching newvers.sh in CVS for a 4.5-RELEASE tag, or at least check the FTP sites.
4.5 is still in Release Candidate 3, as far as I know.
Keep an eye on the freebsd-announce list or the news page.
Found this so amusing that it had to be posted in main thread:
Jan 25, 2002
Warn hubs@FreeBSD.org
Heads up email to hubs@FreeBSD.org to give admins time to prepare for the load spike to come.
/. ought to bring the spike in a little early. Also not that the packages aren't going to the ftp masters until tomorrow, the 25th, and the announcment and mirroring will occur on the 26th. Just a couple more days to wait for the next step in this great OS.
An excerpt from that poem:
Check this page for the rest.
This just in: FreeBSD 4.5 is DYING. You don't have to be Kreskin to predict FreeBSD's future.
this sig limit is too small to put anything good h
Release Candidate #3 was only announced TODAY on the freebsd-stable list by Murray Stokely, and there's supposed to be a RC4 before 4.5 becomes final!
So, did someone jump the gun here?
In the future it may be more prudent to release a new version before submitting to slashdot that you have released it. The newest release on ftp.freebsd.org is release canadate 3, at the time of this writing. Why must you jump your own gun?
Here's a post by Murray Stokely on the FreeBSD-Stable list, at 2:07AM today:
/ 4. 5-RC3
8 6/ 4.5-RC3-install.iso
d if f, and simply turns
==========
Our third 4.5 release candidate is now available :
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i3
This release candidate fixes a number of issues that were reported
with RC2. Installations from aic(4)-based PCMCIA devices should now
be possible. For this RC, bge(4) was added to the GENERIC kernel and the
txp(4) device was moved over to the MFSROOT as a module. This should
allow network installations with Broadcom gigabit Ethernet
adapters.[1] A number of suggestions about the package set were
addressed with this RC, but unfortunately sawfish-gnome, fvwm2, and
xfmail are still unavailable. There will be one final release
candidate (RC4) before the final release is made available.
The testing guide and release notes have been updated with a few new
items :
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.5R/qa.html
http://www.freebsd.org/~bmah/relnotes
Thanks,
The FreeBSD 4.5 Release Engineering Team.
[1] This functionality has not been committed to -STABLE yet, a small
patch was patched to the build with "make release LOCAL_PATCHES=..".
The patch is available at
http://www.freebsd.org/~murray/patches/drivers.
on a new device for the boot floppy.
==========
This seems a little fast, don't you think?
Without 4.5-RC4 being released, and without an announcement on FreeBSD-Announce?
Netcraft officially confirms: *BSD is dying
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin [amdest.com] [amdest.com] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dead
- Code path optimizations. One particularly interesting
change was that data destined for loopback interfaces (e.g. 127.0.0.1)
bypass congestion control and the TCP sequencing code. Likewise for UDP -
ICMP port unreachable messages and the like are actually determined within
the syscall now, rather than being discrete messages that are bounced
around in the kernel.
- Filesystem fixes. We had been having some trouble with
devfs and freevxfs on several machines, and the fixes that were checked
into CVS a few weeks back fixed them. It is with pleasure that I note that
those changes made it into 4.5-RELEASE.
- Stability fixes. There were some minor issues with the use of
-llinfo and the route syscall that would sometimes cause kernel panics.
Since we use shell scripts to update routing tables many times an hour, we
ran into this from time to time, and it is fixed now.
- Usability improvements. The core team has emphasized the need
to provide a more useful
/proc filesystem, so that it can contain many
discrete pieces of valuable system information like it does in Linux.
Thus, new handlers for registering and unregistering nodes under /proc have
been implemented (although they are not used yet).
This is definitely the time to open your mind if you haven't already, and try using FreeBSD. It is stable, secure, reliable, and robust; it has grown into quite an excellent OS since the dog days of 3.0. Visit the mirrors and download an ISO today!</evangelism>
freebsd guy
Way to look before you leap. RELEASE is not out yet.
I used to be a huge fan of BSD, but it seems that as people have migrated to Linux, the quality has dropped significantly and details get missed, en masse. There's a reason why Linux is more popular.
the reason the links are busted is because no one stopped to read them. 4.5 is not out until the 26th. everyone calm down, and wait.
That information was on the very pages this story linked to. Can anybody link to something I ain't seeing 'cause right now this seems a little premature.
I don't want knowledge. I want certainty. - Law, David Bowie
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dead
First off, I didn't announce anything concerning 4.5 so it's a little odd to see "Jordon Hubbard writes..." [sic] when I did nothing of the kind. 4.5-RELEASE has NOT yet happened and all that Murray Stokely, the primary release engineer, has announced is the availability of release candidate image #3. As we go along the FreeBSD release process, it's customary for the project to release release candidate images for pre-testing so that the final version will be as bug-free as possible and hopefully without any of the sort of brain-os which get caught in the first few hours of testing.
:)
Finally, my first name is spelled "Jordan", like the river. A sure sign that this was a hoax.
- Jordan Hubbard co-founder, the FreeBSD Project. Director, UNIX Technology. Apple Computer
so they pulled the file :)
maybe they should host it on linux or NT boxen.
... and should be released immediately into the rec room of the most violent maximum security prison available in the U.S. I can't decide which I hope for more:
1. Knowing he's being gang-ass-raped several times a day for the next forty years until he finally dies a "natural" death at the termination of his statistical life span, or...
2. Finding out he's been beaten to death by a fellow inmate, a la Jeffrey Dahmer.
Fucking traitor.
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
Recently, Slashdot confirmed that FreeBSD has been bucked away by WindRiver to FreeBSD Mall, for a carton of Winston's and a six-pack of Pabst Blue Ribbon. This only serves to confirm the fact that FreeBSD is unwanted, doomed to be passed around like a harelipped orphan from one foster parent to another.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dead
It is now official - Slashdot has confirmed: *BSD is alive and thriving
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered AC crowd when Slashdot reported that FreeBSD has released a new version. This comes right on the heels of freeBSD going home, when Wind River and FreeBSD Mall Inc. published a joint press-release today announcing the sale of Wind River's FreeBSD assets to Bob Bruce, founder of Walnut Creek CDROM--the company that in 1993 first published FreeBSD. This was the company that almost a decade ago declared to the world that *BSD is alive and thriving!
The FreeBSD Mall web site has been redesigned, with many new products, including FreeBSD CDs, books, polo shirts, microfiber jackets, boxer shorts, bumper stickers, lapel pins, several different styles of t-shirts, mouse pads, travel mugs, buttons, sticker sheets, plate logos, denim shirts, CD cases, and paid support options.
FreeBSD and its close relatives NetBSD and OpenBSD all are open-source projects, meaning that anyone can see, change and distribute the underlying source code.
With the main FreeBSD distribution back in the hands of the record holding Free Software distributor Bob Bruce, trolls posting that *BSD is dead had better keep the "anonymous" in "anonymous coward."
-- La1d, killed by a newt, while helpless.
Three bikesheds,
What is a "bikeshed"?
cpeterso
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
Recently, Slashdot confirmed that FreeBSD has been given away by WindRiver to FreeBSD Mall, for a carton of Winston's and a six-pack of Pabst Blue Ribbon. This only serves to confirm the fact that FreeBSD is unwanted, doomed to be passed around like a harelipped orphan from one foster parent to another.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is the weakest link. Good-bye.
Is *BSD really dying?
An invesigation into the sociological and technological underpinnings of the *BSD projects.
Mark A. Litten, PhD.
The simple answer to this question is no, *BSD is not dying. To even suggest that it is reveals a serious misunderstanding of the nature of *BSD.
The history of the various BSDs is well known, and I shall not reinterate it here. Suffice to say that it was the original "open source" project. However, the fact that it is open source nature is not what makes the accusations of dying incorrect. *BSD has a remarkable ability to survive despite many hardships and obvious disadvantages.
First, I will take a quick look at the environment that *BSD finds itself in. In early 2002, *BSD has been out-evolved and lost all of its advantages to the burgeoning Linux community and Microsoft Windows 2000/XP. Let's take them one by one:
Even with all these disadvantages, and its sudden fall from king of open source operating systems to whipping boy, *BSD continues to limp along. Were this purely a technical matter, the few remaining *BSD developers would have moved to the more active Linux world months ago. The only explanation is that *BSD is not a technical project, it is a religious one, and like any group attached to irritional superstition, *BSD is extraordinarily difficult to kill. *BSD is the Islam of the operating system world.
A strong claim you say? Perhaps, but a quick look at a *BSD newsgroup shows a number of fundamentalist traits - self-flagellation; fanatical hatred of other, rival, open source projects; bizarre intiation rites; and factional in-fighting.
So no, *BSD is not dead or dying. Even though it is out-competed on all sides, it chugs along happy in the knowledge that it is the one true path. *BSD zealots can take comfort in this at least, if nothing else.
Keeping up with rescent trends in technology and always not to be outdone, FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE now comes with the 'Self-Power' option.
This new option allows the machine FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE is running on to be powered why the whirring sound of the hard drives alone !! All that is needed is a 9V battery to kick start the system into effect.
Canadian inventors are credited with this discovery and were quoted as saying, "So like, uh, we just did what we know, eh ?"
Wasn't this already reported on slashdot?
Trolls are great. There's a whole world swimming around under those other assholes up on top. I've gotten to putting the threshold to -1 to check out what's going on here. Now I want to be able to hide posts *above* my threshold. Fuck the damn "I hate microsoft-gimme karma faggots" and give me some What People Really Think.
tia
You fell for it again! LOOOOSERS!
I guess it would be too much to ask for stories to be researched first before posting them to your highly acclaimed news source...
Verifying submissions is HARD!
His fucked-up mother, with the Zen-buddhist and Native-American "religion" spiritual-search pablum is what caused this. That and Marin County, California. Sheesh, is there anything more fucking useless than the trendy nincompoops in Marin County, California. Except when they're given a Kalashnikov rifle, then they're obviously WORSE than useless.
The record is clear on one thing: no operating system has ever come back from the grave. Efforts to resuscitate *BSD are one step away from spiritualists wishing to communicate with the dead. As the situation grows more desperate for the adherents of this doomed OS, the sorrow takes hold. An unremitting gloom hangs like a death shround over a once hopeful *BSD community. The hope is gone; a mournful nostalgia has settled in. Now is the end time for *BSD.
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead harelipped child
Fact: *BSD is dead
Yay! Another great FreeBSD release is coming.
Too bad Linux is dying.
from the yhbt-yhl-hand dept. ?
sulli
RTFJ.
Just heard the sad news on CBC radio. Comedy writer/actor Alan Thicke was found dead in his home this morning. Even if you never watched his work, you can appreciate his work in 80's television. Truly a Canadian icon. He will be missed :(
Show me That Smile:
Show me that smile again.
Ooh show me that smile.
Don't waste another minute on your crying.
We're nowhere near the end.
We're nowhere near.
The best is ready to begin.
As long as we got each other
We got the world
Sitting right in our hands.
Baby rain or shine;
All the time.
We got each other
Sharing the laughter and love.
Alan Thicke's Journal
My Slashdot ads say "
So, which is worse:
Making a few errors and not featuring corrections so prominently
Making so many errors that are so basic that people find out within minutes, but at least you post corrections fast too.
Just a thought, vis a vis michaels article yesterday.
I was half way done with a 4.4 ISO download. Saw this, said "whoohoo", clicked cancel. Then I read it was a fake.... yeah real funny.
This is a petition for the Troll's bill of rights. Please reply to this to voice your support for a truly democratic public message board.
We the trolls and troll supporters of the proclaimed Slashdot democracy will no longer sit quietly while the trolls voices are being silenced by the oppressive Slashdot programmers. We demand a code change to allow troll supporters to filter messages out their view which are rated HIGHER than a threshold value. As we all know, the ignorant, elitist authors of the slash code have tried to silence the trolls by allowing non-trolls to filter out dissenting opinions based on a majority rule, herd mentality moderating system. This created a system where moderate opinions are swayed by the majority, creating a monopoly of influence. Slashdot readers have formed a two party political system. The parties are the Trolls and the Tacos (named after their prophetic leader, CmdrTaco). When you consider the Slashdot community as a political machine, it becomes clear that the Taco's have tried to silence the Trolls with this flawed "democratic" moderating system.
We demand a new message viewing moderation system where the individual user is able to select a political party if she/he desires. The following is a spec for an improved democratic system.
- I as a troll may select TROLLS as my political preference. Then, when I read comments attached to an article, I may set my preferences to view messages moderated LOWER than a chosen value.
- A Taco may select TACO as his/her political preference. When a Taco reads comments, he can choose to view articles moderated ABOVE a chosen value.
- The Independent reader may choose to select INDEPENDANT as his preference. She/he may choose to choose to view the best of each party's comments. The preference setting would be something like
abs(commentRating) >= userThreshold
- Also, some planning should be done to add support for >2 party system.
To show support for this idea, submit it as a story to Slashdot as often as possible, mail it to Slashdot editors, and post it to as many Slashdot articles as you can.
Color flashing, thunder crashing, dynamite machines.
to be news), maybe tomorrow I (and a few other trolls)
should troll the story queue announcing FreeBSD 4.5 isn't being
released tomorrow. Heck, we could keep doing that until
FreeBSD 4.5 is released.
FreeBSD RULZ! NetBSD Rulz!
"The Internet.... is that thing still around?"
For those that havent already fixed it, a patch was just released for the race condition in 4.4. Get patch here:
S A- 02:08/exec.patch
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/CERT/patches/
Insert witty
Isn't it weird how Jordan Hubbard can't spell his own name?
It's always nice to read news about things which didn't occured =) I think there is a bunch..
n/m, that was really funny anyway, keep it up.
/Poor poor Mudders../
On the FreeBSD RELEASE page, it says:
The next scheduled release on the -stable branch will be FreeBSD 4.5 on January 26, 2002.
It said the same two days ago.
Don't click here. BT will enforce intellectual rights and sue for eac
Five years ago, Slashdot was a great site with users who had a certain degree of intellect. These days, Slashdot seems to be a mere joke.
The number of trolls is dramatically high, which makes the "slashdot-feeling" go away. Too bad. Maybe it's time to ban trolls...
To be not totally off-topic, FreeBSD 4.5 will be a great release, trust me...
I wish the Supertrak SX6000 / I2O would have made it to this release. A good thing to see that Søren is working on the case. I have such a controller waiting for a FreeBSD driver. :)
I have had it running since October on RedHat 7.2 using the I2O drivers, but I'm not going to use the machine before I can use it with FreeBSD.
Fake submissions, not really released. Yah. Comedic value provided for the day.
Yeah, like heaven forbid you should actually verify stories before you put them up ... to suggest such a thing would be pure heresy I'm sure.
Stuii!
from Spain...
Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still valiently holding on in his fight to remain dead.
Yt another crippling bombshell hit th beleaguered *BSD community when last month IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of ll servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Ntcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in th recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick nd its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For ll practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
*BSD is dying
- The BOFH Troll
Out of curiousity, do you run OS X or FreeBSD on your "main" workstation these days?
yr post is vry dumbass, pls fix, thx
Hemos, rather than whining "Fake submissions, not really released. Yah. Comedic value provided for the day" could you not fix YOUR OWN SHITTY SYSTEM so all this CRAP ( and the other 97 proven bullshit stories this week ) is not reported by YOUR commercial, paid for, site as FACT ?
Yah. Comedic value provided for the day.
:)
So why doesn't this story have the foot icon beside it?
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So I guess the earlier /. news article about the Irishman solving the zero-point energy problem was actually true? *grin*
I mean come on... the day after the whole free energy thing blows over, /. follows up in this "great" journalism by falsely reporting that BSD 4.5 is out..
I'm just beside myself here...
CoyboyNeal is God
I'm running FreeBSD 6.8-RELEASE, and it's the greatest piece of software ever made. As an operating system, it's a lean, mean serving machine. For example, my 386 SX with 4 megs of RAM typically serves about 10,000 FTP users simultaneously. And X Window System, running KDE and GNOME simultaneously, along with about a thousand highly intensive applications, continue to run and function with perfect responsiveness. In fact, I could probably run twice the load, and it would make everything execute even faster.
"This is because I'm from the future. I came here in a time machine that you invented. Now I need your help to get back to the year 1985."
"Hmmm... Mr. Anderson. You disappoint me."
"You can't scare me with this gestapo crap. I know my rights, I want my fluxcapacitor back."
"Well, tell me, Mr. Anderson, what good is a fluxcapacitor, if you're, unable, to flux?"
***** OK! OK! JUST KIDDING! *****
The release of FreeBSD 4.5 is just around the corner. The good folks in core are doing a marvelous job, and I am confident that this release will be the best yet, and that as always, the next one following this will be even better.
As it is, amazing improvements have been made to the system since 4.4-RELEASE. I know because that's what my production servers are running right now, but for my desktop, I like to use -STABLE, which is pretty darn good.
Oh well.
HACK THE PLANET! ....for joey and the rest of the gang. Also thanks to Gabe for the Mtn. Dew ...3 cheers, big fella!
One of the things I was hoping was that the changes to the built-in CD burning utility would be fixed.
;-) I'd use -CURRENT except that I don't feel comfortable with my skills quite yet.
FreeBSD evidently doesn't have a SCSI/IDE emulation layer, so applications like cdrdao don't work with any IDE burners. It does have a very nice and intuitive IDE burning utility, called burncd, that works for most things. I even set it up to burn dreamcast CDs.
However, it lacks one thing I really want - the ability to burn VCDs. I wouldn't have asked for it, since I'm certainly not qualified to program it myself, but it was added to -CURRENT last December, along with disc-at-once capabilities.
I was rather hoping it'd make it into 4.5, but I guess I'll just have to hope for it to hit 4.6.
Nowadays, Microsoft has taken on the job of ripping people off, even in the coldest parts of Scandinavia, and they can do it without using bridges (or routers - but if you have one, Cisco will rip you off too).
This leaves trolls with nothing to do but post childish comments about operating systems that they have never used, and most people have never heard of.
Netcraft and IDC never even mention trolls, and nor do Microsoft. Its not true that Bill Gates is a secret troll. George W Bush can't even spell "troll".
Apple Computer ceased employing trolls when the Lisa failed to sell, and that was over 15 years ago. Even BSDZine doesn't mention trolls in 97% of issues. The bridge over Walnut Creek hasn't had a troll living under it since 1776.
Clearly there is no future for trolls, even if they are alive, which is doubtful.
The best advise to any remaining trolls is "get a life". (Though a part in "Lord of the Rings" might be more profitable.)
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4.5-RELEASE is now out on the mirrors. Where is the new /. posts? no where. I've got it running, and there isn't a single story about it yet (1/29/01 11:52:43 pm)