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Handspring Treo 270 Leaked
Brian writes "Details of Treo 270 codenamed Atlanta, handspring's next communicator which incorporates a color display is leaked. PDA LIVE.com has the scoop and the photos!" I think this one's uglier than its predecessor, but it's got color and claims similar battery life, so if you're looking for a very wide phone, this could be it.
It is ugly, but form follows function. I'm probably going to get one.
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What's up with all the new fancy-schmanzy pda's? I still use my old casio SF-7500, and let me tell you, that's more pda power than anyone can handle!
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64 KB(!) allows me to store tons of information in the memo section, it even have a built-in calculator too..
Actually, I was quite shocked that it survived y2k, since I bought a looong while ago, but it did, and it works excellent for reminding me of stuff I need to remember
this is one of the steps towards the future where every person constantly carries a computer with them. Infact, I bet it'll oneday be illegal not to.
* There still is an external antenna
* the keyboard is still sized for 7 year olds
* I still can not lookup agenda while talking on the phone...
The gadget value is quite high. The usage value is far less than (bluetooth connected) pda + phone.
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It has multiple colors, extended battery life and a nice wide formfactor...
Now the only question left is does it vibrate?
Handspring Treo 270 Leaked
Maybe someone should have taken it to the restroom beforehand.
Where does the school board find them and why do they keep sending them to ME?
People must accept that when you have an LCD screen, there is always a chance of leakage.
Companies have been promising a all-in-one product for a long time but we still see people carrying an organizer, a laptop, a cellphone , a MP3 player and a pager !
Sometimes it makes me think the EM radiation combined from all the devices must be going over the safe threshold!
Also ever notice how the all in one product is never the first on the market? Just look at portable Music players. First they sold us cdmans; then they sold us MP3 players ; now they are trying to sell us the combined product and for cheaper than both the original products?
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http://www.handspring.com/products/communicators/i ndex.jhtml?prod_cat_name=Communicators
-ted
Do I have to do a handspring to get one?
What OS do you want to abuse today?
Sony should come out with a laptop with a pop-out cell phone that allows web access on the laptop, and a regular cell phone that you can carry with you. Heck - you could even sync the information with the phone when you re-dock it, or place video calls with the laptop (since Sony seems to like putting digital cameras on their laptops).
Hey, it beats carrying around both a phone and a Palm. Too bad I'd have to switch to Cingular to use it around here :(
VisorCentral has also picked up the story (complete with pictures):
http://visorcentral.com/content/Stories/1448-1.htm
FCC also has info including the users manual
Nice pic here
Voice and "twitch" interfaces will be the norm.
It's called ubiquitous computing, and it will herald a new era in personal technology.
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I'd highly recommend checking out the I300 before purchasing a Treo.
There is a PDF on the FCC's website with lots of pretty pictures.
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Is it water-proof? How much is the coldest operating temperature?
There is some need for handhelds that can work under -30 Celsius
(normal temperature in some parts in Russia in winter) and be waterproof.
What can you suggest?
It's too ugly to be left out in the open and too big to fit in your pocket...
Too expensive to be a PDA and too limited to be a laptop replacement...
I think in the short-medium term, it will still be multiple devices that take off i.e. having PDA, ,mobiles, laptops, protable music-players rather than all-in-one units. However, there will be more connectivity between devices.
Bluetooth seemed to be a part of the solution but problems (i.e. cost, compatibility, power consumption,availability) have limited its impact.
Here, read the actual things submitted to the FCC here including internal photos, a manual for the 270, etc., etc. Or you can just go to Visorcentral (www.visorcentral.com) and read their writeup on it. But the FCC's page is more informative, IMO.
Mark
Does anybody other than me have semi-oily skin? When I use my cell phone for an extended period of time, that oil gets onto the screen of the cell phone since it rests against my face. Now what happens when you use one of these PDA phones? Are they designed for this not to happen? I would hate to have to wipe the touchscreen after using the phone... "No! I don't want to call China!"
Anyway, if anyone has experience with these phones please clue me in. Thanks.
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His point is totally correct. That the per minute costs of cellular calls and the current absence (or one-network availability of gprs services means that you treat each data call as a luxury. I had a nokia 9010 - sure you could surf the web - it really worked - except who hangs around at 25p(40cents?) per minute?
I submit that you're a minority. Ultimately I think we'll have voice-recognition technologies in our handhelds and some sort of on-demand backwards connection to our `laptops'. Both laptop and PDA/phone/etc will be `mere' peripherals to whatever our central processing and storgage system is. Yes, laptops will get smaller and smaller, but they're forever going to be constrained by screen size and (to a lesser extent) power. I don't think we'll ever see a laptop with a 17" screen that fits in your pocket. Unless you've got hellacious pockets, of course.
Peripherals, unlike central systems, map well to to specialized uses. My PP just died, and I'm seriously considering the Treo. It means that I'd carry one peripheral rather than three (pager, phone, PDA). For me (and many others) that's a big win.
With any luck, the Treo will last three years, which is all I expect from a computer anyway. Even if you happen to be right and fully integrated laptops take over, it isn't gonna happen in the next three years. Thus again, the Treo is the right answer even for the mid-term.
In the short term, it means better integration between phone lists, email, notes, etc. And to me, that's more than worth the three year cost per year. At the end of three years . . . well, we'll see what's out there.
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This is a list of what my next PDA will have to have to get me to upgrade from my IIIc: -colour screen, outside useable (epaper?) -phone, plus vibrate mode -storagecard-capapble -mp3player -either bluetooth or wireless ethernet capable. It's that or bust...I don't NEED to get every generation which progressively includes these functions. My IIIc serves me fine, and cost me enough when it first came out. I'll only upgrade when what I want is out there...and I suspect many with palm III's or Handspring will too.
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it suck's
I cant sync it with my linux box
it uses old mcore like cpu (non arm/mips)
and it looks silly
get a
Nokia 7650
or take alook at how GUI should be done (looks nice like java swing done right)
symbian interface
and see it on a small phone
look for p800 photo's
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I picked up a Kyocera QCP6035 phone for CHEAP ($100 at Best Buy) a month ago. They're discontinued now, I think, but CompUSA still has em for $150, and they're practically free with a new account with all the rebates they throw at you. It's an 8MB PalmOS 3.5 PDA and SprintPCS phone combo, and it's BEAUTIFUL. Great battery life (for now), great reception over my older Samsung and Sanyo Sprint phones, and the best part: the built in net connection.
:)
The phone comes with Sprint's dialup service built in, and doesn't cost any more than normal airtime. For a poor college kid like me the cost is silly low and I can do AIM, SSH, VNC, web/email, IRC, and never have to go into the office ever again
The IRsync capability as well as being able to use it as a modem is nice. Biggest downside is the serial cradle it comes with, but I think they have a USB one you can buy now.
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Yes you can: use jpilot. KDE's PIM supposedly syncs with Palm devices, too, though I haven't tried it out yet.
And it still feels faster than comparable units running other OSes and faster chips. Amazing what quality programming can do, huh?
Sure, it won't play my MP3s. That bums me out. And I wish it had the resolution of Sony's units. But the cost difference between implementing those features is substantial enough, and the Treo is already expensive enough, that I'll be happy to forego those advantages when the CDMA version of the Treo ships.
The visor Prism is $299. The visor pro is $229. The current Treo is $399, or $299 with a trade up.
Both have rechargable batteries, 16 MB memory, and an expansion slot. And the prism has color when the current Treo 180 does not.
Guess what the expansion slot fits? A Visorphone which is free with activation.
So basically I'm paying $170 or an old PDA for a keyboard on my new PDA. I used to think this thing was cool, but when I got a visorphone for my existing Visor Deluxe (ohhhhh its coming soon!) I got over that real quick.
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Jesus, what a bunch of mean comments. Ugly--too big--not as capable as a VAIO--too limited in too many ways--
Well, I disagree. I'm a happy user of a Handspring Visor for the last year or so, and it's been a wonderful tool as an organizer, news reader (via Avantgo daily updates), entertainment package (with a nice Freecell version and Mille Bournes clone), and document reader (I keep the NCI Cancernet PDQ database on it, and I've also read a few novels on it using iSilo).
These are great little devices but I've been waiting for internet connectivity before getting a new one. I would have gotten a Treo 180 but I figure that if I'm going to have to recharge anyhow (for any wireless device) I might as well wait for color. This new model fits the bill perfectly.
Additionally, I really like the enhanced calculator that Handspring has in their devices as well as the Citytime application for resetting times when traveling. I am among the few people out here who still don't have a cell phone, and this will even let me join the 1990s with a handy device.
Size? My Visor Platinum is significantly larger than the 270 and it is invisible and unnoticed in my pocket when I carry it. I don't go to work without it.
Capability? The 270 should be able to satisfy every use I have found for the Visor, but it has twice the memory and a nicer display. Those card games and documents will be easier to see on a good display.
You want to edit Word documents, write up your departmental expenditures with Excel, watch videos, listen to MP3s--forget it with a device like this. But I challenge anyone to produce any device with a form factor as friendly as my Visor or a Pocket PC that won't drive you nuts while doing those things. You want those capabilities--you must get a laptop. No pocket device form factor will make such jobs possible, without something crazy like accurate speech recognition or a virtual keyboard interface.
For guys like me, this Treo 270 is exactly what we want. The only real gripe I have is that I would like a nice telnet/ssh client built-in so that I could do my remote administration.
I just got my Kyocera last week. It was like $150 at Amazon, but there was a $100 mail-in rebate, and I had an Amazon gift certificate, so it wound up being free.
Same phone goes for $600CAN at the local mall.
Anyway, the thing is a PalmPilot that makes phonecalls and has net access. The integration of the addressbook to the phone is near-perfect, and it has real buttons on the front for dialing numbers not in the address book.
Using handsfree on the phone while taking notes on it just rocks. And all the Palm software I've tried on it works just perfect.
The only things that would make it better would be a standard Palm access port on the bottom (for connecting to pyrometers, etc) and an integral GPS.
Highly, highly recommended.
BTW, you have any links to good SmartPhone user sites?
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This is competition for SonyEricsson's P800 ? I think not. Compare the two operating systems, the operator support, the vendor support on that OS.
The standalone PDA is dead, long live the Smart Phone.
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You just described the latest iPaq, with the addition of a GPRS sleeve, that is.
They're calling it Atlanta.
So I'm guessing it will be big, slow, and poorly designed. It will contain few notable features, and will be generally unaesthetic. While the device will be able to withstand blistering heat, the moment the tempeture gets a degree below freezing, the whole thing will shut down until help can arrive from a more northern device. While it will be connected to the information superhighway, it will be unable to handle traffic of any volume, and will utterly lack alternative methods of connectivity. While it will claim to have a better display, most users will still find that it choses to view things in black and white.
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Handspring Treo 270 Leaked
This is why I'll only buy a genuine Palm or even a quality Sony Clie. I can't believe they'd build a palm so cheap that it leaks.... that stuffs gotta be pretty poisonous too.
I'll have something intelligent to add one of these days...
It just goes to show: they just don't build them like they used to. What good is the damn handheld if it leaks battery acid all over you? I think I'll pass on this one.
I read the article and it didn't say what leaked, the LCD? the battery?
I've had a palm for years and I've looked inside, there's no reservoir for any liquid inside...
So it's a Cellphone, Pager, PDA, e-mail client, AND a canteen?
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However I decided to wait for now for two reasons. One is that Handspring recently announced that they will be supporting CDMA (logical considering Qualcomm just invested $10 Million in them). Thus I expect a CDMA Treo will come out some time this year.
The other reason I am waiting is that Sprint PCS is about to roll out their new 3G Network this summer. Among other things, this will offer data speeds up to 10 times faster than the current network can. In fact, Wired is running a story today on the demo roadshow that Sprint is running right now to show off applications of their new network.
Sprint isn't showing any new handsets for it yet, but one will presume they are forthcoming. In fact, I'm guessing thats why the price on the QCP-6035 has dropped so preciptously (from like $300 to $100 or so) in the last couple of months---I'm guessing Kyocera has a successor model waiting in the wings.
Hence I wait.
I'm not moaning about your spelling, but you don't need an apostrophe every time there's an s. The apostrophe is to denote posession (Joe's car) or contraction (he is -> he's.) Sucks is the present tense, third person conjugation of 'to suck.' No need for an apostrophe there. Photos is the plural of photo. No need for one there, either.
Sorry, it's a major peeve.
There should be a moratorium on the use of the apostrophe.
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The idea of carrying only one device instead of two (PDA+Phone) is appealing. But the the Treo is just about the only modern PDA out there that doesnt have an expansion card. Also, it is still running Palm OS v3.5 when all the new ones are on v4.1.
The keyboard is too small that I find using the graffiti is faster for me
To convince me from diching my Palm Vx, the new device must have:
1) OS 4.1 or better
2) Color
3) Phone
4) Expansion card
5) Useable keyboard
the treo is close, but no cigar. Sony's NR70 is right there, now if only they add the phone.
the other "handheld"
they are both pieces of crap they dont come with a modem, ethernet, or b/w camera