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The Lone Gunmen Aren't Dead?
A reader writes: "With the series finale of The X-Files rapidly approaching, the official site has recently been updated with a brief description and a few images from the final episode. Normally, this would not be a notable occurance - except for the fact that one of the images, which are said to be from the final episode, is of The Lone Gunmen!"
With the series finale of The X-Files rapidly approaching
Christ, is that _still_ on?
--saint
Well, You really "The Lone-Gunmen are dead"ed that one, didn't you???!!!
Shall I even watch the last episode? Why don't you just post it's contents in slashdot subjects over the next 29.25 hours?
Marques Johansson
keep in mind that both deep throat and mulder's father appeared posthumously in dream sequences in the third season, and scully's father appeared posthumously in a dream sequence in the second season. there's probably more, but it's been too long since i've watched the show, and i don't remember others. there's also been some occurences of people appearing in flashback sequences after they've died. that's how deep throat got into the fourth season. not to mention shapeshifters taking the forms of dead people. that happened a few times. most notably at the beginning of season 4.
then again, "killing" characters only to have them turn out to still be alive has happend more that its share of times. mulder, krycek and the smoking man have all died and come back a few times.
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"Yes, it's true," he told me, "We're not really dead. Tell everyone not to worry. See, we're just actors. All that stuff you see on the TV show? It's not real. It's just make-believe. You know, stories?"
Honestly, even if they were killed off in the series, they could always be brought back in flashbacks, time-warps, cloning experiments, dream sequences, etc. etc.
You don't have to un-write what was written or disrupt continuity in order to have dead characters come back...
You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!
TV Guide confirms this -- It's going to be a trial of Mulder, which will involve several flashbacks.
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Not to be sarcastic, but is the submitter of the original story not familiar with a narrative device called a flashback? Just because they're in a picture of the episode, does not mean they're still alive.
If they died to begin with, that is - I really have no idea, I have stopped watching a few seasons ago when it just got too convoluted. But I was disappointed to hear that they potentially bit the dust when that was reported, I always liked them, so hopefully that they are indeed alive. I'm definitely going to see the next XFiles movie, and they'd make a good addition to it.
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Are rumours of what characters appear on the XFiles what Slashdot is all about? I mean, "News for Nerds" and all, but if I want analysis of publicity pictures of a television show I can go to any number of other rumour sites. I come here for some nifty Science, Computing, and Social news, along with some often interesting talking on the boards.
Oh well, it's just my two cents.
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He is on trial for laughing at a fat man getting mugged, by an alien.
Imagine how hard it would be to include an image of the Lone Gunmen from a previous X-Files episode! Since that's so difficult, clearly it must mean that they're bringing them back to life!
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This article on Salon talks about how bad a job Chris Carter's done in wrapping up loose ends.
I'm inclined to agree. Out of these last few episodes, there hasn't been nearly so much exposition on the "mythology" as I would have liked or expected.
-carl
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Spoiler Warning:
Captain Kirk is killed on Star Trek 6 (The Undiscovered Country) - I saw it on the previews.
Geeze. First you guys spoil it for everyone by blabbling about the Lone Gunmen are dead before half the people here get a chance to see the episode, and now you are doing it again, blabbing about how the Lone Gunmen _aren't_ before the show is even on the air.
If Slashdot keeps on blaring all these spoilers on the front page, I don't think I'll ever be able to enjoy watching the X-Files again.
Ideology is for ideots.
Is it:
(Lone Gunmen Are Dead) + (Lone Gunmen Aren't Dead)
Which nets out to be zero.
Or should it be:
(Lone Gunmen Are Dead) + ABS(Lone Gunmen Aren't Dead)
Which equals 2*(Lone Gunmen are Dead) = twice spoiled.
And then, what happens if this spoiler is wrong?
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This could very well be a dream or a flashback sequence. Or they could be clones! (sorry, still in Star Wars mode)
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*First* Slashdot ruins the show for loads of people by saying the Lone Gunmen are dead. *Then*, after all the backlash, Slashdot ruins the show *again* by revealing that they aren't!
Geez... you think they'd learn!
I particularly liked that the super-intelligent chimps were housed at the "Boulle Primate Research Center". Pierre Boulle, was the author of the novel that was eventually made into the movie Planet of the Apes. He wrote the novel that was made into Bridge over the River Kwai as well.
Keep in mind we never saw them dead. All we saw were some closed coffins being buried. They probably just went underground and the funeral was a cover. The guys have probably been hanging out with Mulder, eating pizza and watching porn videos.
Hey, it's TV. No ever actually dies on a TV show, especially on a science fiction one...
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It must be true - I saw it on TV.
Ideology is for ideots.
Remember this?
"'Tis great confidence in a friend to tell him your faults, greater to tell him his." --Poor Richard's Almanac
Next you're going to go and tell us that Spider-Man is some nerdy photographer and Batman is a millionaire playboy. I mean, really.
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The Lone Gunman aren't dead, their publication was just temporarily shut down due to DMCA violations.
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Hemos, try as you may, you can't use this story to make up for Slashdot's (or chrisd's) horrible "The Lone Gunmen Are Dead" headline. Because your typically-intellectual readers are well aware of the possibilities of flashbacks, dream sequences, and other such plot devices, there are other explanations than what seems to be your "See... chrisd wasn't correct in saying the Lone Gunmen are dead! California needn't be pissed off at us anymore!"
::Colz Grigor // It was appropriate that in his review of Attack of the Clones, Taco used "lone gunmen" as a verb... Long live CmdrTaco!
Maybe the best possible solution would be for Slashdot to stick to computer-related stuff and avoid the "Entertainment" subject altogether? Though I must say I'm pretty pleased with simply exlcuding every story posted by chrisd.
Or is it? Executive producer Frank Spotnitz says the two-hour finale "puts all the pieces together in as straightforward a manner as possible. We give a very definite answer about what's going to happen to the world. But then we pose the question: Can fate be changed? That's the heart of the [episode]." Appropriately, David Duchovny returns to the role of Fox Mulder, who reappears after a yearlong absence and reunites with Scully (Gillian Anderson). Mulder is charged with murder, and Spotnitz says that the resulting military tribunal "creates the framework that allows us to explain what Mulder's been doing for the last nine years." Expect a lot of flashbacks, as well as the reemergence of some infamous characters.
A second X-Files movie is contemplated after the series ends. "It's not like [the characters'] lives come to an end at the end of the TV series," Spotnitz says. "But I think they've all taken a journey and ended up at a place that feels like completion." Gen. Suveg: William Devane. Toothpick Man: Alan Dale. Skinner: Mitch Pileggi.
Well, there goes that surprise from tomorrow's show.
Hey! Thanks for ruining the ending of the episode... AGAIN! How many spoilers about the Lone Gunmen are we going to have, anyway?
Don't trust a bull's horn, a doberman's tooth, a runaway horse or me.
Can we all stop the "Anakin is Luke's father????" jokes? They've been old for a few years now.
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You've apparently learned nothing from the last time you revealed something about the X-Files in advance.
And don't try to explain yourselves by saying it's not a spoiler, just a rumor. For some people, rumors are too much.
I stopped visiting Star Trek boards because some people just couldn't keep themselves from accidentally revealing small details about the next movie. Those small details weren't clearly spoilers either, but eventually details pile up to form a bigger picture... One I don't want to have yet!!
Will I have to stop visiting Slashdot too? Hope not...
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Its called a flashback. You know, one of those sequences showing something that has occurred at a previous point in time.
I'm not an X-Files fan. But one of the dudes that plays the lone gunmen is a vancouver actor. He was on a local show by the name of Urban Rush. And he said that he would be in the final episode.
Chris Carter mentions something in TV Guide about a lot of characters "coming back" for Mulder's trial, which is the plot of the last episode. It sounds like quite a few characters are going to turn out to be alive. I certainly wouldn't be surprised if we end up finding out that guys like X and The Cigarette Smoking Man are back, and I know that some characters that were definitely dead just a few episodes a go will be alive for the last episode.
And I don't mean flashbacks or anything like that, either. Some of these characters have just been alive all along and either faked their deaths or were resurrected somehow.
Im getting really tired of Slashdot spoiling it in the headlines.
"Derp de derp."
First you go and give away that they're dead before I get a chance to see it, and then you give away that they're still alive before I get a chance to see it. You guys really hate me, don't you?
--Dan
Sorry man, but Homer Simpson gave them new life. "Who'd have thunk that Darth Vader was Luke Skywalkers father?"
If the Simpsons made a reference to it, it's still open to being quoted.
"Derp de derp."
Heh itd also be ironic if the death of the Lone Gunman was a government coverup.
"Derp de derp."
Careful viewers would have noticed in the preview after last weeks episode that they had a quick image of Alex Krychek.
He was killed quite dead last season with a bullet to the head in an FBI garage. I don't think they allowed him to crawl away like the Smoking Man did after only being shot in the chest (and hence allowed for his return at the end of season 5).
So most likely these are flashback images from Mulder or other cast members.
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Or pull a 'Dallas', have someone wake up and say 'oh, it was all just a bad dream'.
I'd rather have it end in a Newhart way. Maybe Scully wakes up after falling asleep waiting to meet the director in the pilot episode. Instead of waiting around, she takes off her badge and leaves. Roll credits.
At the end of the series finale on Newhart, Bob wakes up next to his wife from The Bob Newart Show. The whole series had been a dream.
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Kevin Spacey is Kayser Soze and the narrator IS Tyler Durden...
/.)
You guys are doing a good track record for the "Let's not ruin the ending of the bloody series for everybody" bit... especially since some people have been waiting all season for this...
(Honestly, if I were paying attention to this show, I wouldn't go anywhere NEAR the show's website for fear of ruining it... thanks,
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Isn't that an oxymoron? Or are the creators of the X-files grammatically challenged just like the Slashdot editors?
[For the dense, I'm refering to the use of the adjective lone in connection with the plural word gunmen]
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Oh, they'll be brought back to life, but with really serious issues, because they were in Heaaaaaa-ven... ;)
Thanks a lot! Next you'll be telling me that Bambi's mother dies or something!
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Ah, you misread what I said.
I was referring to an earlier episode in 1997 (Redux 2) where, at the end of the episode, the CSM is shot in the chest through a window. Indeed, his corpse was not found at that point.
He then showed up near the end of Season 5, thus showing he is quite resilient to bullets.
- AC
After having watched the last episode, the Line Gunmen are dead, it was just visions Mulder was having, or perhaps the dead visiting him. Wasn't really sure which. Knowing the X-Files, probably the latter!
Dude, this is the X-Files, they don't need any reason to bring dead characters back.
True, since the Final Ep has already shown in the US we now know that they were some of the 'dead' characters to come back in a halucination/waking dream to Mulder to give him advice. But the final Ep several times reminds us that super soldiers can't really be killed except with magnatite from certain meteors. And that Mulder's sister was cloned multiple times allowing for multiple deaths during the series of his sister, though we are told she actually dies in the 80's.
The only thing good about that is that you get to see your least favourite characters die repeatedly.
Of course we also know they did bring back CSM from the 'presumed dead' to actually and pretty much beyond doubt kill him since they show him melting in a bomb blast, and since he is in a cave where super-soldiers can't enter, we know they can't use that excuse for bringing him back. But it still leaves cloning.
I hope they bring TLG back for the second film, it just would be the X-Files without them. As for CSM, let's hope that he is well and truly dead this time, though I hope to see the actor appear in other venues since he was a very good bad guy without being campy.
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I watched the last X-Files show (unfortunately). They are dead. Through out the whole show Molder (sp?) sees and talks with ghosts of the people who have died. They are dead.
At the next eco-hypocrisy-meeting, count the private jets used to get to the meeting. Should be interesting to see that
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It had this explanation for the black oil. Life on Earth was seeded by meteorites from Mars. Well, this is an old idea, called Panspermia. You don't have to be a conspiracy nut to give it consideration.
The Mars inoculation of life on Earth came with an "Alien Virus". Excuse me? If the inoculant for all life on Earth came from from Mars, and the virus is also from Mars, how is it any more alien than any other life on Earth?
As for CSM, let's hope that he is well and truly dead this time, though I hope to see the actor appear in other venues since he was a very good bad guy without being campy.
He (the actor, William B. Davis) was also a very good speaker when he came to the University of Lethbridge. Spoke on a variety of interesting subjects, most of them X-Files related somehow or another, was quite amusing, I took one of the arrow posters off the wall and had him sign it. Probably in the landfill now, but he was still pretty cool.
Factoid: He's actually an ex-smoker. When he appeared on the first episode of the X-Files, the producers asked him if he wanted real cigarettes or the fake herbal ones. He figured he was cured of his addiction, and went for the real ones. After finding himself getting itchy for them when he got home, he decided that it was no more real ones for him, despite the fact that the herbal ones are truly putrid.
--Dan