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The Lone Gunmen Aren't Dead?
A reader writes: "With the series finale of The X-Files rapidly approaching, the official site has recently been updated with a brief description and a few images from the final episode. Normally, this would not be a notable occurance - except for the fact that one of the images, which are said to be from the final episode, is of The Lone Gunmen!"
If they're not dead, then they could bring the series back! I hope they do, that was one of the best shows on TV. They could give it the X-Files' timeslot too.
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With the series finale of The X-Files rapidly approaching
Christ, is that _still_ on?
--saint
I think I remember reading that this episode will be Mulder on trial. As such, it's likely they'll appear in some flashbacks. This doesn't mean they aren't dead.
Well, You really "The Lone-Gunmen are dead"ed that one, didn't you???!!!
Shall I even watch the last episode? Why don't you just post it's contents in slashdot subjects over the next 29.25 hours?
Marques Johansson
But does anyone really care enough about X-Files past season 4-5? I dont.
It should have died then. And I expect Carter & Co to bring out a cheesy finale where Mulder discovers he is an alien himself and charged with enslaving mankind.
from what i've read, several dead characters are goign to be itn eh last episode, though they are only mulders memories or delusions
bart
Not that I have cared about the X-files for a few years now.. But the fact that there is a picture of them in the last episoed means nothing.. There could just be a flashback that contains them or maybe they bill pull a Voyager and go back in time using an alien ship to make sure they don't die.. For most, I think the show jumped the shark when the movie was made.
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keep in mind that both deep throat and mulder's father appeared posthumously in dream sequences in the third season, and scully's father appeared posthumously in a dream sequence in the second season. there's probably more, but it's been too long since i've watched the show, and i don't remember others. there's also been some occurences of people appearing in flashback sequences after they've died. that's how deep throat got into the fourth season. not to mention shapeshifters taking the forms of dead people. that happened a few times. most notably at the beginning of season 4.
then again, "killing" characters only to have them turn out to still be alive has happend more that its share of times. mulder, krycek and the smoking man have all died and come back a few times.
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"Yes, it's true," he told me, "We're not really dead. Tell everyone not to worry. See, we're just actors. All that stuff you see on the TV show? It's not real. It's just make-believe. You know, stories?"
Honestly, even if they were killed off in the series, they could always be brought back in flashbacks, time-warps, cloning experiments, dream sequences, etc. etc.
You don't have to un-write what was written or disrupt continuity in order to have dead characters come back...
You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!
Seriously, the series could take place before they died or just say polymorphic transexual hyperbolic aliens impersonated the Lone Gunman during their deaths.
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Not to be sarcastic, but is the submitter of the original story not familiar with a narrative device called a flashback? Just because they're in a picture of the episode, does not mean they're still alive.
If they died to begin with, that is - I really have no idea, I have stopped watching a few seasons ago when it just got too convoluted. But I was disappointed to hear that they potentially bit the dust when that was reported, I always liked them, so hopefully that they are indeed alive. I'm definitely going to see the next XFiles movie, and they'd make a good addition to it.
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Are rumours of what characters appear on the XFiles what Slashdot is all about? I mean, "News for Nerds" and all, but if I want analysis of publicity pictures of a television show I can go to any number of other rumour sites. I come here for some nifty Science, Computing, and Social news, along with some often interesting talking on the boards.
Oh well, it's just my two cents.
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Just tell everyone "This all happend before they died".
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I really don't think they are still alive, they were buried in the ground at the end of the episode they died in. In all likely hood it will be flash backs of Mulder where we see them. Just my opinion.
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He is on trial for laughing at a fat man getting mugged, by an alien.
Imagine how hard it would be to include an image of the Lone Gunmen from a previous X-Files episode! Since that's so difficult, clearly it must mean that they're bringing them back to life!
rooooar
This article on Salon talks about how bad a job Chris Carter's done in wrapping up loose ends.
I'm inclined to agree. Out of these last few episodes, there hasn't been nearly so much exposition on the "mythology" as I would have liked or expected.
-carl
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Are they dead? Aren't they?
/. sent by Chris Carter?
Should I be wailing in misery for being spoiled? Have I been spoiled?
Is chrisd really a mole for
And will the Truth be revealed as something to do with CowboyNeal?
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Spoiler Warning:
Captain Kirk is killed on Star Trek 6 (The Undiscovered Country) - I saw it on the previews.
Geeze. First you guys spoil it for everyone by blabbling about the Lone Gunmen are dead before half the people here get a chance to see the episode, and now you are doing it again, blabbing about how the Lone Gunmen _aren't_ before the show is even on the air.
If Slashdot keeps on blaring all these spoilers on the front page, I don't think I'll ever be able to enjoy watching the X-Files again.
Ideology is for ideots.
Is it:
(Lone Gunmen Are Dead) + (Lone Gunmen Aren't Dead)
Which nets out to be zero.
Or should it be:
(Lone Gunmen Are Dead) + ABS(Lone Gunmen Aren't Dead)
Which equals 2*(Lone Gunmen are Dead) = twice spoiled.
And then, what happens if this spoiler is wrong?
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Nice try, chrisd. Sure we all see that the story appears to be posted by Hemos, but I smell a conspiracy... ;)
This could very well be a dream or a flashback sequence. Or they could be clones! (sorry, still in Star Wars mode)
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*First* Slashdot ruins the show for loads of people by saying the Lone Gunmen are dead. *Then*, after all the backlash, Slashdot ruins the show *again* by revealing that they aren't!
Geez... you think they'd learn!
First you spoil the surprise of them dying, and now you spoil the surprise of them coming back?!
Thank you, Slashdot.
btw, ironically, you just Lone-Gunmanned the Lone Gunmen...AGAIN!
..as long as you're in reruns.
If I had to guess, I'd say it's probably a vision or flashback of somesort.
Dead people have appeared before.
Flashbacks, hallucinaions, imagination, video, flashbacks...
Why in the name of Hell was my comment rated off-topic?
I thought the meta-moderating system was meant to weed out these rogue moderators?
Keep in mind we never saw them dead. All we saw were some closed coffins being buried. They probably just went underground and the funeral was a cover. The guys have probably been hanging out with Mulder, eating pizza and watching porn videos.
Hey, it's TV. No ever actually dies on a TV show, especially on a science fiction one...
Trickster Coyote
It must be true - I saw it on TV.
Ideology is for ideots.
No, on 9/11 the world was not attacked by mysterious aliens. Aliens and the paranormal have fascinated people for ages, and some things do not change, buildings or no buildings.
Remember this?
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heh sorta like when titanic came out. "The ship sinks"
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Nothing to be alarmed about here, folks.
Next you're going to go and tell us that Spider-Man is some nerdy photographer and Batman is a millionaire playboy. I mean, really.
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Damn the Emperor!
The Lone Gunman aren't dead, their publication was just temporarily shut down due to DMCA violations.
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OMG!!! This time Darth Neal will finish them off.
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Hemos, try as you may, you can't use this story to make up for Slashdot's (or chrisd's) horrible "The Lone Gunmen Are Dead" headline. Because your typically-intellectual readers are well aware of the possibilities of flashbacks, dream sequences, and other such plot devices, there are other explanations than what seems to be your "See... chrisd wasn't correct in saying the Lone Gunmen are dead! California needn't be pissed off at us anymore!"
::Colz Grigor // It was appropriate that in his review of Attack of the Clones, Taco used "lone gunmen" as a verb... Long live CmdrTaco!
Maybe the best possible solution would be for Slashdot to stick to computer-related stuff and avoid the "Entertainment" subject altogether? Though I must say I'm pretty pleased with simply exlcuding every story posted by chrisd.
> Who/What are you? JonKatz?
Boy, that's a low blow!
> No, on 9/11 the world was not attacked
> by mysterious aliens. Aliens and the
> paranormal have fascinated people for
> ages, and some things do not change,
> buildings or no buildings.
True, but the way in which that traditionally niche fascination became, via the X-Files, a mainstream pre-occupation was a reflection of the times.
What I'm saying is that the times have now changed, drastically so. It is, of course, a touchy subject and I'm not really surprised my original post was unfairly moderated down, but if we want to get the full picture and, in this case, a clearer picture of what the X-Files really meant to our culture, we have to factor the major shifts that have happened since it's first airing.
Well-written though it undoubtedly is, if The X-Files were to launch today, post 9/11, it would have seemed naive and, well, off-topic, and would never have made it to a 2nd series.
"The Lone Gunman Are Dead"
* * *
"The Lone Gunmen Aren't Dead"
Gee people....if yer gonna spoil episodes, at least get your facts straight. :-)
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Or is it? Executive producer Frank Spotnitz says the two-hour finale "puts all the pieces together in as straightforward a manner as possible. We give a very definite answer about what's going to happen to the world. But then we pose the question: Can fate be changed? That's the heart of the [episode]." Appropriately, David Duchovny returns to the role of Fox Mulder, who reappears after a yearlong absence and reunites with Scully (Gillian Anderson). Mulder is charged with murder, and Spotnitz says that the resulting military tribunal "creates the framework that allows us to explain what Mulder's been doing for the last nine years." Expect a lot of flashbacks, as well as the reemergence of some infamous characters.
A second X-Files movie is contemplated after the series ends. "It's not like [the characters'] lives come to an end at the end of the TV series," Spotnitz says. "But I think they've all taken a journey and ended up at a place that feels like completion." Gen. Suveg: William Devane. Toothpick Man: Alan Dale. Skinner: Mitch Pileggi.
Well, there goes that surprise from tomorrow's show.
Hey! Thanks for ruining the ending of the episode... AGAIN! How many spoilers about the Lone Gunmen are we going to have, anyway?
Don't trust a bull's horn, a doberman's tooth, a runaway horse or me.
Can we all stop the "Anakin is Luke's father????" jokes? They've been old for a few years now.
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Check out the info on the xfiles page, tvguide.com, tv.yahoo.com, just about anything and you will learn Mulder comes up before a military tribunal to defend himself and his work. Now, would that make an interesting series finale, two hours of interview, or do you think they will spread that out with FLASHBACKS and RECOLLECTIONS of what Mulder has found? Just a thought.
A: You're doing it again.
B: What's that?
A: That talking thing....stop it.
You've apparently learned nothing from the last time you revealed something about the X-Files in advance.
And don't try to explain yourselves by saying it's not a spoiler, just a rumor. For some people, rumors are too much.
I stopped visiting Star Trek boards because some people just couldn't keep themselves from accidentally revealing small details about the next movie. Those small details weren't clearly spoilers either, but eventually details pile up to form a bigger picture... One I don't want to have yet!!
Will I have to stop visiting Slashdot too? Hope not...
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There show does need another shot, but not before they bring Freakylinks back!
why'd you have to go lone gunmen that episode for us.
What a shame too. Those guys were great.
In the picture, Langly is wearing the exact same shirt that he was wearing in the episode where they died. Of course, it's very possible that he just doesn't wash his clothes all that often, especially after being "dead" for a while.
Its called a flashback. You know, one of those sequences showing something that has occurred at a previous point in time.
I'm not an X-Files fan. But one of the dudes that plays the lone gunmen is a vancouver actor. He was on a local show by the name of Urban Rush. And he said that he would be in the final episode.
Chris Carter mentions something in TV Guide about a lot of characters "coming back" for Mulder's trial, which is the plot of the last episode. It sounds like quite a few characters are going to turn out to be alive. I certainly wouldn't be surprised if we end up finding out that guys like X and The Cigarette Smoking Man are back, and I know that some characters that were definitely dead just a few episodes a go will be alive for the last episode.
And I don't mean flashbacks or anything like that, either. Some of these characters have just been alive all along and either faked their deaths or were resurrected somehow.
In one of the last episodes, we were led to believe they died (and were BURRIED) after the poison oozed from the dude. If they are still alive, well, it's classic X-Files. If it's a flashback, well, it's classic X-Files. give it a freakin' rest.
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The first rule of the Lone Gunmen is, you don't talk about the Lone Gunmen.
The second rule of the Lone Gunmen is, You Do Not Talk about the Lone Gunmen!
Im getting really tired of Slashdot spoiling it in the headlines.
"Derp de derp."
First you go and give away that they're dead before I get a chance to see it, and then you give away that they're still alive before I get a chance to see it. You guys really hate me, don't you?
--Dan
Sorry man, but Homer Simpson gave them new life. "Who'd have thunk that Darth Vader was Luke Skywalkers father?"
If the Simpsons made a reference to it, it's still open to being quoted.
"Derp de derp."
Careful viewers would have noticed in the preview after last weeks episode that they had a quick image of Alex Krychek.
He was killed quite dead last season with a bullet to the head in an FBI garage. I don't think they allowed him to crawl away like the Smoking Man did after only being shot in the chest (and hence allowed for his return at the end of season 5).
So most likely these are flashback images from Mulder or other cast members.
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- AC
But they could be appearing in a flashback. Oops, this is probably a spoiler =)
How is it a spoiler? Anything on the official site can't be that big a secret, IMO.
There should be a moratorium on the use of the apostrophe.
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News for Nerds or Stuff that Matters? You know, it seems more and more stories on slashdot don't fall into either catagory. Maybe I'm just not "nerdy" enough?
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Kevin Spacey is Kayser Soze and the narrator IS Tyler Durden...
/.)
You guys are doing a good track record for the "Let's not ruin the ending of the bloody series for everybody" bit... especially since some people have been waiting all season for this...
(Honestly, if I were paying attention to this show, I wouldn't go anywhere NEAR the show's website for fear of ruining it... thanks,
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I submitted this story about two weeks ago but with a link to a scifi.com/scifiwire article where they said something along the lines of "it was unclear whether the Lone Gunmen would return alive or in some kind of flashback."
All dressed in grey/black, I think the middle one usually wears a brown shirt..., and the left one wearing a "... lives" t-shirt...
maybe it's a visit from the afterlife =P
After the Lone Gunmen fiasco, you would think that Slashdot has learned its lesson about spoilers. Hell, the new term "Lone Gunmen," meaning "giving SPOILERS", has even fairly popular on Slashdot. But no, now Slashdot is trying to "Lone Gunmen" the Lone Gunmen once again.
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Shouldn't this be a slashback?
Isn't that an oxymoron? Or are the creators of the X-files grammatically challenged just like the Slashdot editors?
[For the dense, I'm refering to the use of the adjective lone in connection with the plural word gunmen]
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I don't remember who said it; but during one of their season specials where they talk about happenings up until the current show, one of the writers (creators, actors?) said, "No one ever really dies in the X-Files." This was when a picture of Deep Throat getting shot came up.
IMHO, to the X-Files fanaticists, it should be no surprise to see the Lone Gunmen still alive.
Good d'oh to you all.
We'll find out tomorrow, but the explanation for this could be as simple as an error on the website, a dream sequence featuring the lone gunmen, or even a flashback. Of course, it's always possible they didn't really die, or that they got resurrected (happens all the time on the show :). As in soap operas, nothing is guaranteed permanent.
Jesus Christ... You are aware that nothing changed for most of the world? Just for Americans...
Go ahead, turn this into a jingoistic thread about how much you love your country, and you have all of the popular entertainment. You're still a jack-ass, and you're still off topic.
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A secret isn't the same thing as a spoiler. And some people avoid official sites of tv series and movies because they might contain spoilers.
those are the same clothes they wore in the episode where they died
the shirt says joey lives (joey ramone)
Great, spoil the Loan Gunman being dead, then spoil them not being dead! I should just stop reading slashdot 'till the end of the series.
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Think about it. They could fit right in on 3rd Rock from the Sun.
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Mulder is on trial, and they show clips from their previous cases - doesn't sound to promising.
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Thanks a lot! Next you'll be telling me that Bambi's mother dies or something!
One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
It could be a good lead-in to their next show: The Undead Lone Gunmen.
One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
How do we even know Smoking Man is dead? We saw Krycheck push his wheelchair down a flight of stairs, and he was unconscious at the bottom, but Krycheck didn't even check for a pulse before walking away.
That that is is that that that that is not is not.
and what?
you would rather have galavanted around with The (Q)ueer?
one bonus of that scenario: you'd get to spend eternity pillaging and tormenting unlimited species for one reason: because you can.
True, this is.
... as Gillian Anderson herself confirmed on Letterman a few weeks ago.
The question: was it before or after she made out with David Letterman?!
Thanks guys! First you spoiled the final season by telling me that the Lone Gunmen die, then, before I've even had a chance to see that friggin' episode, you tell me "er..no, not really", thus spoiling the final episode!
no one could have predicted the use of planes as missles.
After having watched the last episode, the Line Gunmen are dead, it was just visions Mulder was having, or perhaps the dead visiting him. Wasn't really sure which. Knowing the X-Files, probably the latter!
The lone gunmen are dead. In order not to be seen as un-american, Chris Carter dropped them. In this current environment of jingoism and self worhip in the wake of 9-11, as we all grieve and try to heal our wounded souls, three geeks fighting government conspiracies are not politically correct. The first episode of their show was about government forces intending to crash a plan into the WTC, and blame it on terrorists, in order to bring back the military-industrial complex's cold war era profitability. Having seen that made 9-11 surreal! I could not believe that it actually had happened.To avoid giving conspiracy nuts ideas, Carter kicked our favorite conspiracy uncoverors to the curb. He doesn't want to be called to congress for the next round of Mcarthyite hearings when opportunistic politicians try to claim that there are pro-terrorist people in Hollywood.
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Dude, this is the X-Files, they don't need any reason to bring dead characters back.
True, since the Final Ep has already shown in the US we now know that they were some of the 'dead' characters to come back in a halucination/waking dream to Mulder to give him advice. But the final Ep several times reminds us that super soldiers can't really be killed except with magnatite from certain meteors. And that Mulder's sister was cloned multiple times allowing for multiple deaths during the series of his sister, though we are told she actually dies in the 80's.
The only thing good about that is that you get to see your least favourite characters die repeatedly.
Of course we also know they did bring back CSM from the 'presumed dead' to actually and pretty much beyond doubt kill him since they show him melting in a bomb blast, and since he is in a cave where super-soldiers can't enter, we know they can't use that excuse for bringing him back. But it still leaves cloning.
I hope they bring TLG back for the second film, it just would be the X-Files without them. As for CSM, let's hope that he is well and truly dead this time, though I hope to see the actor appear in other venues since he was a very good bad guy without being campy.
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The Lone Gonemen and several other peeps were in the series finale as Mulder's visions.
I liked how the finale brought a lot of things together, but the finale still left entirely too much unanswered, as if to say, "the X-Files will be back." But it won't.
I'm not one of those people that goes around saying this sucked, that sucked, but this series finale was a complete waste of two hours for me.
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I watched the last X-Files show (unfortunately). They are dead. Through out the whole show Molder (sp?) sees and talks with ghosts of the people who have died. They are dead.
At the next eco-hypocrisy-meeting, count the private jets used to get to the meeting. Should be interesting to see that
It had this explanation for the black oil. Life on Earth was seeded by meteorites from Mars. Well, this is an old idea, called Panspermia. You don't have to be a conspiracy nut to give it consideration.
The Mars inoculation of life on Earth came with an "Alien Virus". Excuse me? If the inoculant for all life on Earth came from from Mars, and the virus is also from Mars, how is it any more alien than any other life on Earth?
As for CSM, let's hope that he is well and truly dead this time, though I hope to see the actor appear in other venues since he was a very good bad guy without being campy.
He (the actor, William B. Davis) was also a very good speaker when he came to the University of Lethbridge. Spoke on a variety of interesting subjects, most of them X-Files related somehow or another, was quite amusing, I took one of the arrow posters off the wall and had him sign it. Probably in the landfill now, but he was still pretty cool.
Factoid: He's actually an ex-smoker. When he appeared on the first episode of the X-Files, the producers asked him if he wanted real cigarettes or the fake herbal ones. He figured he was cured of his addiction, and went for the real ones. After finding himself getting itchy for them when he got home, he decided that it was no more real ones for him, despite the fact that the herbal ones are truly putrid.
--Dan