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Memoirs Found in a Bathtub

Brooks Talley writes: "Stanislaw Lem's Memoirs Found in a Bathtub is vaguely reminiscent of Heller's Catch-22 and positively reminiscent of Kafka's The Castle. If you like dystopian works that expose the inherent absurdity of authoritarian bureaucracies, MFiaB is a book for you. I really can't recommend this alternately funny, sad, astonishing, silly, and disturbing book highly enough." Read on for the rest of Brooks' review. Memoirs Found in a Bathtub author Stainislaw Lem pages 200 publisher Harvest Books rating 9 reviewer Brooks Talley ISBN 0156585855 summary A dizzying voyage into the world of a paranoid bureaucracy

I have some history with Lem's work. Years back, I went on a serious Stanislaw Lem bender. I read and loved pretty much all of his stuff. So it came as a surprise to me to run across Memoirs Found in a Bathtub (hereafter MFiaB). It was published in 1971, so it was certainly out and available when I was reading Lem left and right; I must have just missed it somehow.

And in a way I'm happy that I left accidentally left my future self this treat. MFiaB is a fantastic piece of work. I won't give away any spoilers that happen after the first ten pages or so. The setup alone, though, is pretty representative of what you're in for if you pick up this book.

MFiaB is perhaps the most overtly political thing I've read from Lem, which is saying a lot: Lem specializes in parables and satire that expose the absurdity of modern life in general and politics in particular. MFiaB tells the first-person story of a man who lives in "the Building." The Building is an entirely self-contained society that the book explains was built when the United States and Russia both relocated their critical governmental functions to isolated bunkers after the appearance of a paper-eating bacteria destroyed civilization as we know it.

It seems that the Building is at war with the Anti-Building, and it's a fierce war between two incredible bureaucracies. Everyone is a potential spy, most people could be double agents, triple agents aren't uncommon, and the recent appearance of quadruple, quintuple, sextuple and even septuple agents has really increased the confusion and paranoia level. Of course, agents aren't just working for the Building or anti-Building -- the various departments and fiefdoms within the Building itself spy on each other and attempt to unmask each others' agents.

The story is told in the first-person by a cadet of some sort in the Building. His name is never mentioned in the book, a parallel to Kafka's The Castle where the protagonist is referred to only as "K." As with The Castle, our protagonist is sometimes very sympathetic and sometimes very frustrating; it's clear who we're following, but I was never quite clear what to think of the fellow.

In marked contrast to The Castle, though, our protagonist in MFiaB starts out by receiving a Mission. A Secret Mission, from the Commander in Chief himself. Or maybe it was the Chief Commander - or maybe someone else entirely. Problem is, his superiors won't tell him what the mission is, let alone the proper chain of command to clarify it. Through accidental subterfuge and persistence, he finally corners someone into providing his mission briefing, however some part of the officialdom steals it back before he can read more than the first somewhat disturbing page. (According to the one page he has time to read, phase one of his mission involves cornering his superiors and forcing them to provide the mission briefing.) However, it's possible that pursuing the ambiguity of the mission is his mission, so he's duty-bound to get on about it. Besides, he really doesn't know what else to do.

It goes on from there. A serious reflection of cold-war paranoia and partisanship, MFiaB is an exploration of how a closed, bureaucratic, paranoid society can become dependent on its own closed, bureaucratic, paranoid ways to the point where any attempt to introduce sanity is an act of treason.

While the book centers on the claustrophobic / claustrophilic society in the Building, it's not at all abstract and detached -- there are several fairly violent scenes, and at least one suicide. Not to mention numerous arrests, betrayals which might actually be assistance, and other more ambiguous but just as disturbing events. MFiaB really succeeds in bringing home the mental-health effects of constant vigilance and its inevitable descent into paranoia. Again like Catch-22 or The Castle, MFiaB succeeds as a comedy, a tragedy, a farce, and a cautionary tale. I found myself reading some sentences a couple of times and getting completely different feelings from them each time.

If you haven't read Lem before, this may or may not be a good place to start. MFiaB is dense, and dizzying. If you've got a penchant for traditional literature, MFiaB is probably an excellent introduction to Lem. The use of language, neologisms, and wordplay is amazing, the more so because the book is translated from Lem's native Polish.

If you're looking for a lighter and quicker read that is still representative of Lem at his best, I'd probably recommend the also-excellent Futurological Congress. For short story fans, Tales of Prix the Pilot is an good choice. If you're willing to put some energy into it, though, MFiaB is certainly well worth the investment of time and energy, and really puts all of Lem's formidable skills to use in service of a great story. Highly recommended.

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217 comments

  1. Uh... wha? by Raster+Burn · · Score: 3, Funny

    Like I've always said, if it isn't a dystopian work that exposes the inherent absurdity of authoritarian bureaucracies, it isn't worth reading.

    1. Re:Uh... wha? by Jim+Florentine · · Score: 0, Troll

      Like I've always said, if it's a gobble-toothed schvoogie behind the keyboard fisting and gloating a white woman's triangle with his derf, it's not worth reading.

    2. Re:Uh... wha? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A little too verbose. But in case anyone wants to know, dystopian is something that relates to dystopia which is basically the opposite of utopia. A society that sucks (filled with terror and the like). And authoritarian bureaucracy is like one of those middle eastern countries that don't allow women to vote, dress like the hot sexy bitches they are, see their second cousin w/o 2 male escorts, etc, etc. Nothing like turning a book review into a political comment :)

  2. Jon Katz by Jacer · · Score: 0

    amazing!!!! after I realized he didn't post the review of it, i bothered reading it!

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  3. Thank you! by Codex+The+Sloth · · Score: 1

    Finally, a decent slashdot book review.

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    1. Re:Thank you! by unicron · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but it's no Brave New World.

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    2. Re:Thank you! by anonymous_wombat · · Score: 1

      I vaguely remember enjoying this book when I read it 25 years ago. Perhaps book reviews on more recent works would be more useful.

    3. Re:Thank you! by jyoull · · Score: 1

      Well, It's new to me, so my thanks to the reviewer.

    4. Re:Thank you! by anonymous_wombat · · Score: 1

      If you like science fiction old and new, check out the Internet Top 100 SF/Fantasy List They have lists of both novels and short stories. No reviews, just the results of polls over the internet.

    5. Re:Thank you! by retromad · · Score: 1

      Great review! I look forward to reading this one. For more Kafkaesque reading try Great Apes by Will self(reading this now and its very twisted) allyoursmurfarebelongtosmurf

  4. Solaris by KoopaTroopa · · Score: 1

    Is this the same Stanislaw Lem that wrote Solaris, that Steven Soderburgh is about to/in the process of remaking?

    I must find out more about this Lem fellow. Does he have many other noteworthy pieces?

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    1. Re:Solaris by tbmaddux · · Score: 4, Informative
      Is this the same Stanislaw Lem that wrote Solaris... ?

      Yes, it is the same author. "Solaris" is generally thought of as his best novel. I was always particularly fond of "Memoirs Found in a Bathtub;" it was one of the first I'd read, and I was pleased to see it reviewed here.

      Other notable Lem works (IMHO of course) are "Fiasco" (a novel) and "The Star Diaries" (series of short stories). Lem would also write other fascinating truly future-science works of fiction, such as reviews of books that don't exist (e.g. "One Human Minute").

      One note of caution is that many of his oldest works are coming out in recent translations, and they're not as good.

      Vitrifax is a very good website dedicated to his work.

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    2. Re:Solaris by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, it is the same Lem.

      See
      this link for the bibliography. Everything he has
      written is noteworthy (unlike Asimov, Simak and other
      great sci-fi writes who also produced a lot of junk)

    3. Re:Solaris by Eryq · · Score: 2

      Yes, that's him.

      If you've never read Lem before, a real good place to start -- complete mindless fun -- is "Cyberiad". It's a series of fables set in a distant past/future concerning a society of robots... in particular, two inventors who constantly try to outdo each other.

      You will no doubt come across snippets that you have seen before in /. sigs.

      MFiaB, tho, is one of my all-time favorites. :-)

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    4. Re:Solaris by happy+monday · · Score: 1

      i didn't enjoy MFIB or the futurological congress, they seemed to go on interminably and i found them frustrating, but i have loved some of lem's other books. HIS MASTER'S VOICE is a good one, scientists pick up coded signals from space and start decoding them, uncovering fantastic new scientific principles, but, to the reader's chagrin, and typically of lem, we never find out throughout the whole book where the signals are coming from or who is sending them. another entertaining one is PEACE ON EARTH, about a guy with a split personality on the moon (Lem makes a connection between the Lunar Excursion Module and his name).

    5. Re:Solaris by ccp · · Score: 1

      Cyberiad is also a favourite of mine. I still remember some bits and chuckle, after 30 or so years.

    6. Re:Solaris by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is this the same Stanislaw Lem that wrote Solaris

      No. But he did write SunOS.

    7. Re:Solaris by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cyberiad is NOT mindless, though it may seem that way to those uninitiated in Eastern European irony.

    8. Re:Solaris by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn him for not porting Solaris 9 to Intel!
      and Sun's stopped distributing StarOffice 5, too.
      C'mon Stan, throw the Sun users a bone!

    9. Re:Solaris by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that Steven Soderburgh is about to/in the process of remaking
      I do not know about this one but Andrej Tarkovskij made great movie Solaris. He made also Stalker acc. Strugackij brothers. But be prepared: those movies are like painted pictures with very long shots and lot of symbols. Not everybody can swalow that, but if you can I recommend it. For me Lem/Tarkovskij Solaris and Clarke/Kubrick Oddysey - although very different - are best scifi movies.

      I must find out more about this Lem fellow
      Please, do. For summer easy reading I would recommend also all Lem's short stories spread in several books... ;-)

    10. Re:Solaris by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try "Eden" or "The Cyberiad", both of which are great works by Lem.

    11. Re:Solaris by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The original Solaris movie by Tarkovsky would be hard to beat though!

    12. Re:Solaris by sakusha · · Score: 2

      I must protest, Cyberiad is a quite sophisticated tale, not mindless fun at all. It's not like His Master's Voice, but it does deal with sophisticated allegories. And it is a work of poetry, even the translatied version keeps the amazing wordplay intact.

      I'm personally more fond of some of Lem's experiments with the writing format. One Human Minute is a review of nonexistent books, it's hilarious. Imaginary Magnitude is a book containing prefaces of nonexistent books. Of course, it has a prefix itself. I will never forget the first line of the preface, "I have often thought the art of writing prefaces deserved more attention."

      Anyway, the SF world to me divides into two poles, represented by Lem and Phil Dick. In fact there was a widely known dispute between Lem and Dick. Lem lashed out at Dick because he thought Dick was dragging SF ideals through the mud. He thought Dick was too lowbrow, too much drugs and puke and mental illness and dystopianism. A lot of writers came to Dick's defense and finally convinced Lem that he was more like Dick than he cared to admit. Someone once called Lem the most intelligent man that ever lived, and that's diametrically opposed to the speed-freak paranoid California PKD we all know and love. To me, they're just two different routes that brought about cyberpunk. Couldn't have done it if either Lem or PKD weren't there first.

    13. Re:Solaris by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i'd recommend "chain of chance"...

    14. Re:Solaris by mpsmps · · Score: 1

      If you like Cyberiad, you'll probably like "Mortal Engines" even better. Same type of story, even more mindful.

      Mike

    15. Re:Solaris by DEBEDb · · Score: 1
      But be prepared: those movies are like painted pictures with very long shots and lot of symbols


      Stalker actually has a lot of dialogue, kind
      of like a play (well, there are only 3
      characters), so even if you are not the one
      to appreciate the Tarkovsky's visuals, you can
      ponder the philosophy of the dialogue.


      For summer easy reading I would recommend also all Lem's short stories spread in several books


      A lot of them, if translated well, are hysterically funny.

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  5. My personal vector by ch-chuck · · Score: 2, Interesting

    to Lem's work was thru reading Hofstadter & Dennett's Mind's I. Obviously SciFi worthy of leading edge philosophical musings.

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    1. Re:My personal vector by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey... me too! The Mind's I is a fantastic collection that has pointed me to nearly all of my favorite authors, with Borges and Lem at the top of that list. If Stanislaw Lem thinks it's worth writing, I think it's worth reading.

      And don't be scared off by reviews that caution that a given book is dense or difficult to read, as is often said about Solaris, for example. Relax and go with it... it'll all become clear at the end.

  6. Wow, he really nails home this point :) by dmarien · · Score: 1

    the recent appearance of quadruple, quintuple, sextuple and even septuple agents has really increased the confusion and paranoia level

    I think this is excellent proof of the following statement...

    If you haven't read Lem before, this may or may not be a good place to start. MFiaB is dense, and dizzying.

    I'm not sure if I would pick up this book. I prefer my reading to be casual and entertaining if not intriguing. I wouldn't want to have to keep scrap paper /w me at all times just trying to keep track of which side the secret agents were really on!

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  7. Sci Fi Novel from WHO? by Vengie · · Score: 2, Funny
    From the amazon review....
    "It is as if Jorge Luis Borges, Kafka, Kurt Vonnegut Jr., and Orwell got together to write a sci-fi novel..."

    Now, call me old fashioned, but I'm more of a RH/Pohl/Asimov/Smith fan.

    If Borges, Kafka, Vonnegut and Orwell got together to write a scifi novel, we'd have a surrealist oppressive society trying to decide how paranoid to be about it's own growing internal facism.


    And it would really, really suck.

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    1. Re:Sci Fi Novel from WHO? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OK, so you haven't heard of Lem.

      Maybe sci fi book sectionsin American libraries are different to those in the UK, because there was no way I could have failed to notice him growing up (in the 80's and 90's at that).

      Most decent Barnes & Nobles seem to have a few of his books.
      Go educate yourself - this is far from his only novel in the genre.

    2. Re:Sci Fi Novel from WHO? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha ha... when I get an account I'll mod you up!

    3. Re:Sci Fi Novel from WHO? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      your post was much better than anything any other those authors have written...

      no, no. on second thought, you're insignificant little addition to the vast sea of human stupidity was worse than anything any of those authors have ever written. i'd rather read a vonnegut credit card receipt than re-read your comment.

    4. Re:Sci Fi Novel from WHO? by Vengie · · Score: 1

      I wasn't referring to Lem. I was referring to the crappy amazon.com review, in which they throw together a bizarre amalgamation of diverse (and oftentimes contradictory) writers and put them in a genre which they had little or no (or inverse) contact with. As A Sci-Fi fan, I was a little taken aback.

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    5. Re:Sci Fi Novel from WHO? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which it really, really Does....

    6. Re:Sci Fi Novel from WHO? by pyramid+termite · · Score: 2

      If Borges, Kafka, Vonnegut and Orwell got together to write a scifi novel, we'd have a surrealist oppressive society trying to decide how paranoid to be about it's own growing internal facism.

      That's fairly close to what Lem's Memoirs is ...

      And it would really, really suck.

      Except that it DOESN'T suck.

    7. Re:Sci Fi Novel from WHO? by aminorex · · Score: 2

      > we'd have a surrealist oppressive society trying to
      > decide how paranoid to be about it's own growing
      > internal facism.

      Wow, just the the U.S. today! And yes, it sucks.

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  8. Isn't this the RPG Paranoia? by MagikSlinger · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wonder if the RPG was inspired by this book?

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  9. Reminds me of a Phillip K Dick book... by shoppa · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I went on a Lem reading kick myself 15 or so years ago.

    Around the same time I read a Phillip K Dick book whose title I cannot recall but whose premise sounds similar, with a couple mind-bending twists. In it the two forces are going forward and backwards in time, reading (and maybe changing) a history book about the war they're fighting. Anyone remember this?

    1. Re:Reminds me of a Phillip K Dick book... by mark_lybarger · · Score: 1

      so you claim there really are books out there other than "TechnologyX and how to implement it properly"?!? wow, i've gotta expand into other isles of the book store/library...

    2. Re:Reminds me of a Phillip K Dick book... by Lil'wombat · · Score: 2, Informative
      The book you are thinking of is Now wait for Last Year a review of which can be found here.

      A Scanner Darkly is my all time favorite PHD novel, I can't recommend it highly enough.

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    3. Re:Reminds me of a Phillip K Dick book... by dgoodman · · Score: 2

      Now Wait for Last Year

    4. Re:Reminds me of a Phillip K Dick book... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He was a real wiener. . . .

  10. prefer non-fiction by tcd004 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    for uncovering the absurdity of bureauocracies and the marketplace. Try reading Liar's Poker, by Michael Lewis, or Fast Food Nation by Eric Schlosser. You get the benefit of learning something about reality.

    Don't get me wrong, nothing brightens my day more than an Orwellian dystopia where people are reduced to robotic flesh and emotions have been run through an authoraritarian meat grinder--I just like my gloom and doom with a dose of reality.

    Funny, This inteview with Tom Cruise was found in a Bathtub too.

    tcd004

    1. Re:prefer non-fiction by 3Bees · · Score: 1
      Don't get me wrong, nothing brightens my day more than an Orwellian dystopia where people are reduced to robotic flesh and emotions have been run through an authoraritarian meat grinder

      I think that you misunderstand the nature of this book. While parts of it definately have a dystopian nature, that is just one of the many facets. This excellent novel is also a wonderful philosophical discourse that explained the central ideas behind Post-Modernism to me better than a stack of formal treatises (how Post-Modern is that!!). What's more, the protagonist himself does not go on a dystopian style quest against/with the structures of the Building as is characteristic of most Dystopian novels. As is typical of many Eastern European and Slavic novels, he seems to be unaware of many of the greatest absurdities in his life while dwelling (absurdly dwelling you might say) on others.

      I'm not arguing against non-fiction, or for fiction, or whatever; but this has got to be one of the greatest novels of all time. The contradiction that "Gloom and Doom" never enter into the story and are integral to it is just one of the many pleasures that this tomb holds.

      Imediatly after reading this novel (several years ago) I was surprised to notice that I was keeping all of my notes and hand-outs for the semester in a Yellow Folder! :-)

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    2. Re:prefer non-fiction by tcd004 · · Score: 1

      Dammit. Now you've convinced me to go read it.

      =)

      tcd004

    3. Re:prefer non-fiction by gravious · · Score: 1

      now that, is funny

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  11. Informative by WellHungYungWun · · Score: 0

    It seems as if the book would appeal to some, but I prefer the feeble mindedness of MAD magazine and whatever else. Like another poster said, I prefer to enjoy my reading, not be plauged by it.

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    1. Re:Informative by mccalli · · Score: 1
      ...I prefer to enjoy my reading, not be plauged by it.

      Inconceivable!

      Cheers,
      Ian

  12. Authors name spelled wrong?!?! by dmarien · · Score: 0

    See Amazon

    Did the /. poster spell his name wrong or did Amazon?

    Either way, someone fucked up bad!

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  13. Hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Sounds like that old pen-and-paper RPG, Paranoia.

    Hmm... why isn't there a computer game version of Paranoia?

    Greg Costikyan I'm talking to you...

  14. Lem at his best by blamanj · · Score: 5, Informative

    While nearly everything Lem writes is worthy, the one I keep going back to is The Cyberiad (with obligatory Amazon pointer).

    It is like an Odyssey (either Homer's or James Joyce's) for the cybernetic age.

    1. Re:Lem at his best by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cheers. Cyberiad is my favorite Lem.

  15. Babel fish mania by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The Cyberiad," Will Wright's favorite book, is amazingly great, and the translation from Polish preserves (or reconstructs) a huge number of puns. However, "Solaris" is double-translated from Polish to French to English, so I hestitate to read the thing. I wonder if they'll release a new translation to go with the movie.

  16. I tried... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I tried to read this book, but the pages were too soggy.

  17. Crystal Blue Paranoia by elocutio · · Score: 1

    Perhaps some would argue that this is not necessarily "News for Nerds," but it's certainly stuff that matters.

    When one thinks of the ways that the world has changed since World War II, how many of the changes that occurred came about through reasons of war and political machinery, it is staggering to realize that we really are in a "new world," where the new military-industrial complex is cloaked by bureaucracy and the old, corrupt political machines are replaced by the new, corrupt rhetoricians and wordsmiths. If Politicians, Priests, and Poets are the only real leaders, then the paradigm that separates them has changed.

    Remembering Kafka's writings from college was really disturbing and revealing--nearly illuminating. Franz Kafka was one of the few brave souls of his period to declare through his writings that humankind had lost its rightful place in the world, and as a result, humans would become increasingly isolated, alienated, and cynical. I believe that the world is increasingly cynical and apathetic, and in many ways, our own private and public attitudes feed the modern conspiracy theorists and doomsayers. I don't think that the world is "All Doom and Gloom," but I shudder to think of being conquered by ideas rather than by guns. That's real bondage.

    1. Re:Crystal Blue Paranoia by neocon · · Score: 1

      I shudder to think of being conquered by ideas rather than by guns.

      Or, in other words: `I finally have to admit that I'm not actually being opressed -- in fact as a citizen of the US I live in the most free, most democratic, and most prosperous society on earth. But if I think really hard, maybe I can come up with a weird theory in which the very lack of oppression I am experiencing is itself a form of oppression, `the real bondage', if you will.'

      I guess I'm not buying it.

    2. Re:Crystal Blue Paranoia by stand · · Score: 1

      Perhaps some would argue that this is not necessarily "News for Nerds," but it's certainly stuff that matters.

      How's this for you? Lem is the guy that coined the term robot.

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    3. Re:Crystal Blue Paranoia by bsartist · · Score: 2

      Lem is the guy that coined the term robot.

      Nope. The term "robot" was coined by the Czech writer Josef Capek, and popularized in his brother Karel's play, titled "Rossum's Universal Robots." It's derived from the Czech word robota, which means "drudgery" or "servitude."

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    4. Re:Crystal Blue Paranoia by kfg · · Score: 1

      Actually, that would be Switzerland, but the US, as a Republic, is an * improvement * on democracy, which, on the whole, does not result in a great deal of freedom.

      Athens was, at least for those with suffrage, a true democracy, hence the English word 'ostracize.'

      Such a thing is common under democracy, and forbiden under American Republicanism.

      KFG

    5. Re:Crystal Blue Paranoia by neocon · · Score: 1

      Yes, you are correct. Ironically, a democratic republic, as opposed to a direct democracy is much more democratic -- which is to say that it better weighs the opinions of more of the population than direct voting would.

      On any sort of large scale, direct democracy is subject to domination by regional cliques, overrepresentation of those with the most free time, and so forth.

    6. Re:Crystal Blue Paranoia by IndependentVik · · Score: 1

      On any sort of large scale, direct democracy is subject to domination by regional cliques, overrepresentation of those with the most free time . . .

      That happens in the US too. AARP anyone?

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    7. Re:Crystal Blue Paranoia by neocon · · Score: 1

      Perhaps it does. It is certainly less effective a tactic then it would be in a direct democracy -- look at the AARP's endorsements in past elections.

  18. BTW, that's PIRX the Pilot by ch-chuck · · Score: 2

    Not Prix, altho it's a common mistake, I guess because so many pilots are.

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  19. Re:Uh... wha?::::Important Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who the f$ck is Brooks Talley. No e-mail address
    and no Slashdot UserID suggests he is FAKE like
    most of the submitted stories in the last few days.

    Thanks. Enjoying some superb Amerikan grown
    marijuana.

  20. about Stanislaw Lem by grouchomarxist · · Score: 4, Informative

    Stanislaw Lem has a homepage here. He's 80 years old, but he is still writing. During WW II he lived through the Soviet and German occupations. His bio is here.

    1. Re:about Stanislaw Lem by e40 · · Score: 2

      Does anyone else think Lem as a young man (seen in the right photo here) looks like George Clooney? Weird.

    2. Re:about Stanislaw Lem by e40 · · Score: 2

      Let me be the first to point out that the parent poster is an idiot.... or just plain funny. You be the judge.

  21. Dystopian by zoombat · · Score: 3, Informative
    For all you other non-philologers out there:
    From Dictionary.com:

    Dystopian adj. Of or relating to an imaginary place or state in which the condition of life is extremely bad, as from deprivation, oppression, or terror.

    1. Re:Dystopian by kungfooswade · · Score: 1

      Ahh... So in geek terms, which I liken to my former job, it's when they take away the coffee maker change your permissions and cutoff your cell phone all before you get to work on a Monday morning. Then after you have gotten to work and you make it to the head/open source library you notice brown stains all over the rim cause your boss, who's a closet alcoholic, was in just before you leaving you to clean behind him so you can relieve yourself all while your idiot sys-admin is yelling at you because now he has screwed up the permissions and wants you to fix it. Right......right.... dystopian....

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      At midnight, all the butchers And the cafeteria crew Go out and chop up all the cows For beef & guinness stew...
  22. Not recommended if utopia is not your bag ... by Uncle+Oswald · · Score: 2, Interesting

    First off - Lem is one of the greatest science-fiction authors in our time. I often refer to his works as "serious science-fiction", the reason being that most of his novels come absolutely realistic. (I am not talking about Pirx here ... :-)

    MFiaB however was the first of Lem's books I didn't finish - and I have read nearly all of them. The unlogical behavior of the characters sometimes made me scream - "How could ANYONE be so STUUPID?!?"

    But anyways - if your looking for decent science-fiction (far away from Star Trek and sorts that is) - read Lem. And Lem. And Lem.

    "Fiasko" might be a little hard at first, but boy, just too incredible ...

    1. Re:Not recommended if utopia is not your bag ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I also enjoyed Fiasco(fiasko) and Eden wasn't
      bad either.

  23. Slashdot's Mistake by dmarien · · Score: 1

    In the green header of the book review the Author's name is spelled: Stainislaw, whereas the rest of the review refers to Stanislaw.

    Amazon spells his name, Stanislaw.

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  24. Roccoco Paranoid Alienation? by Quirk · · Score: 1

    Let's not forget Mervyn Peake's Gormenghast Trilogy. Kafa was the cartographer of the post industrial, paranoid, alienated, disenfranchised; and, Stanislaw Lem and Gold are latecomers, fun to read but just picking up the thread where the master left off. Strange Kafka wanted all his works burnt because he felt them deficient.

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    "Academicians are more likely to share each other's toothbrush than each other's nomenclature."
    Cohen
    1. Re:Roccoco Paranoid Alienation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No one can describe the alienation they feel because they are just toooooooo depressed by it all, no matter how inspired.

  25. Its STANISLAW NOT STAINISLAW by Dusabre · · Score: 1

    STANISLAW as in STAN not STAIN

    1. Re:Its STANISLAW NOT STAINISLAW by Bob+McCown · · Score: 1
      STANISLAW as in STAN not STAIN

      Might be Stainislaw, it depends.

  26. Lem website: Vitrifax by tbmaddux · · Score: 1

    For those who are interested in the author, Vitrifax is a very good website dedicated to Lem.

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    Can't you see that everyone is buying station wagons?
  27. My own off-topic review: Dr. Strangelove by Rahga · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    "Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb" is a brilliant movie that proves that Kubrick's work slowly went downhill with subsequent project, as finally witnessed in "Eyes Wide Shut", where a man investigates fidelity, gets interested in a common whore, and beats a dead horse with a sledghammer..... but that's another matter.

    The comic brilliance of this movie can be summed up with this scene, when Mandrake needed to place a call from an army base that could save the world but can't find anything but a payphone:
    ------------------
    Mandrake: Colonel...that Coca Cola machine. I want you to shoot the lock off it. There may be some change in there.
    Guano: That's private property.
    Mandrake: Colonel! Can you possibly imagine what is going to happen to you, your frame outlook way of life and everything, when they learn that you have obstructed a telephone call to the President of the United States? Can you imagine?! Shoot it off! Shoot! With a gun! That's what the bullets are for you twit!!
    Guano: Okay. I'm gonna get your money for ya. But if you don't get the President of the United States on that phone, you know what's gonna happen to you?
    Mandrake: What?!
    Guano: You're gonna have to answer to the Coca Cola company.
    ----------------
    Ahhhhh. I love that scene.

    2000 billion thumbs up.

  28. Lem style by plexxer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I find Lem's writings to shine when he focuses on human interactions within closed enviroments (Hospitial of the Transfiguration, Solaris). Don't get me wrong, I like the Tales of Pirx the Pirate, but then not quite as engrossing as stories of people 'trapped'.

    --
    The government's moral compass is controlled by GPS.
    In times of crises, they alter it to suit their needs.
    1. Re:Lem style by richieb · · Score: 2
      like the Tales of Pirx the Pirate

      That's "Pirx the Pilot".

      Actually have you read them all? There are several that set up the same situation - a small group of people isolated from the world, forced to deal with an unusual situation.

      The Pirx stories start lighweight, but eventually get much deeper. In fact the novel "Fiasco" is sort of the last Pirx story.

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  29. Lem by tps12 · · Score: 1

    Hey, this sounds great, I must have missed that one as well. Stanislaw Lem fans might be interested to note that they're coming out with a movie based on Solaris, another book of his. It's being directed by the guy who did Erin Brockavitch though, so don't get too excited.

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  30. The Man In The High Castle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think...

    1. Re:The Man In The High Castle by Theodore+Logan · · Score: 2
      Yeah, probably. Although most of PKD's books deal with similar issues as does this one.

      I have not read this particular Lem book, but am surprised at how obviously stoled from Kafkas "The Trial" (not "The Castle!") many parts of this story seems (i.e. the protagonist is never called by his name (although Josef K. is once in the first sentence of "The Trial"), it is set in an overly bureaucratic society, and, most of all, whereas K. stumbles throughout the book to find out what he is accused of, the main character in MFiaB does the same, only he has to find out what his mission is.

      If you ask me, Lem has always been highly overrated anyway.

      And speaking of PKD and dubbel, triple and quadruple agents, check out his "A Scanner Darkly" where the protagonist is an agent spying on himself, making him an infinitle agent. Beat that!

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      "If you think education is expensive, try ignorance" - Derek Bok

    2. Re:The Man In The High Castle by brooks_talley · · Score: 2

      I'll stand by my comparison of MFiaB to The Castle, especially because I read them back to back (I had read The Castle years ago, and after reading MFiaB I picked it up again). There are certainly similarities to The Trial, too; thanks for the impetus to read that one again. I'll pick it up and report back to this thread in a week or two. I'll also grab "A Scanner Darkly"; I've been re-reading a bunch of PKD recently but have't ever read that one.

      As far as MFiaB and The Castle, there are numerous parallels in plot setup, sylistic devices, and plot advancement, especially (sort of spoilerish) the ironic breakthrough that finally allows the protagonist to get out of the trap (or, to at least change the nature of the trap).

      If you've read the more recent (1998, I think) english translation of The Castle, you'll know what I mean. The older "translation" included all sorts of edits by Kafka's original posthumous agent, Max Brod, including the criminal truncation of the book before the actual end. It's possible that the parallels between MFiaB and The Castle weren't as clear in the botched english version which was all we had until 1998.

      I don't think Lem or anyone ever claimed that MFiaB was completely original with no reference intended to Kafka's work. I saw it as clearly a homage and intentional adaptation of a great work to a different time. Nothing wrong with that, in my book.

      Anyways, I can completely sympathize with thinking Lem is overrated, though I can't imagine feeling that way myself. However, I do feel that way about Joyce and a few other writers people consider classic, which gets me into all sorts of trouble with Lit. types. To each their own.

      Cheers
      -b

    3. Re:The Man In The High Castle by Theodore+Logan · · Score: 2
      I'll also grab "A Scanner Darkly"; I've been re-reading a bunch of PKD recently but have't ever read that one.

      Good idea. It's by many considered his best. I'm not sure I agree with them completely, but it's no doubt PKD at his finest.

      If you've read the more recent (1998, I think) english translation of The Castle, you'll know what I mean. The older "translation" included all sorts of edits by Kafka's original posthumous agent, Max Brod, including the criminal truncation of the book before the actual end. It's possible that the parallels between MFiaB and The Castle weren't as clear in the botched english version which was all we had until 1998.

      I have never read Kafka in English, mind you, but thanks anyway. However, given the fact that "The Castle" was largely unfinished at the time of Kafkas death, I think it unfair to blame Brod for "botchering" it. Rather, I think one should acknowledge that the more recent translation is of superior quality and let that be the end of it.

      I don't think Lem or anyone ever claimed that MFiaB was completely original with no reference intended to Kafka's work. I saw it as clearly a homage and intentional adaptation of a great work to a different time. Nothing wrong with that, in my book.

      Neither do I. My problem with this book, which I once again should admit I have not read, is that it does not appear to adapt it to different conditions at all. Whereas Joyce, speaking of him, takes a greek epic, squeezes it down to a days length, and puts it, of all places, in Dublin, Lem seems to take a story about a little man in a modern overly bureaucratic society and put him in a... modern overly bureaucratic society? And keep most of the story, on top of that. I'll be the first to admit that the difference between plagiarism and homage is a subtle one, but I am sure my point comes across nonetheless.

      Anyways, I can completely sympathize with thinking Lem is overrated, though I can't imagine feeling that way myself. However, I do feel that way about Joyce and a few other writers people consider classic, which gets me into all sorts of trouble with Lit. types.

      With Joyce people might be able to agree with you that reading him is a less than pleasant experience, but there's no denying his impact on Western litterature, even his staunchest critics will grant him that. With Lem that is not the case, which is why the comparison is a little unfair. Getting into trouble with Lit. types is not something to be ashamed of, however. My experience is that they like what they're told to like.

      To each their own.

      This summarizes nicely. I can't agree with you more here.

      Theo

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      "If you think education is expensive, try ignorance" - Derek Bok

  31. News for ? by asv108 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    How this book review relevant to anything normally discussed on Slashdot?

    1. Re:News for ? by spreer · · Score: 1

      Its science fiction. Many nerds enjoy science fiction.

    2. Re:News for ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If we told you that, we'd have to kill you.

    3. Re:News for ? by Xarin · · Score: 5, Funny

      From the following summary:

      In marked contrast to The Castle, though, our protagonist in MFiaB starts out by receiving a Mission. A Secret Mission, from the Commander in Chief himself. Or maybe it was the Chief Commander - or maybe someone else entirely. Problem is, his superiors won't tell him what the mission is, let alone the proper chain of command to clarify it. Through accidental subterfuge and persistence, he finally corners someone into providing his mission briefing, however some part of the officialdom steals it back before he can read more than the first somewhat disturbing page. (According to the one page he has time to read, phase one of his mission involves cornering his superiors and forcing them to provide the mission briefing.) However, it's possible that pursuing the ambiguity of the mission is his mission, so he's duty-bound to get on about it. Besides, he really doesn't know what else to do.

      It sounds like every software project I have worked on. Especially since most software projects are "a comedy, a tragedy, a farce, and a cautionary tale". That should be enough to make it relevent.

    4. Re:News for ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      asv108 wrote: How this book review relevant to anything normally discussed on Slashdot?

      Please define "normal" in the context of /.

    5. Re:News for ? by synshyne · · Score: 1

      your not a true /.er if you dont like discussing science fiction even if its just a book review. Why complain about what is news and what isnt, sit back and enjoy something once in a while. BTW I will be makin a trip up to my fav. book store to get MFiaB..I dont have it yet...thanks for reminding me everyone. We need more book reviews so I know what I am missing out on!!hahaha

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      -Alicia
  32. i cannot believe this by Edmund+Blackadder · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There already is a movie based on solaris it is russian, by tcharkovsky(sp?) and i have always menat to see it when i have 4 hours free.

    anyway it is quite amazing sodenbourgh (sp?) decided to do a remake on that, it doesnt look like hollywood type novel.

    But of course one thing typical of hollywood is to remake foreign classics.

    anyway i hope its good and not as melodramatic as erin brochovitch.

    1. Re:i cannot believe this by brooks_talley · · Score: 2

      I'm curious about the Soderbergh Solaris movie myself.

      However, I'm hopeful. Even though Brockovitch was hopelessly self-righteous and melodramatic, Soderbergh's other work is pretty good, especially for a mainstream hollywood director.

      And, don't forget that Soderbergh's second movie (after Sex, Lies, and Videotape) was Kafka, a loose adaptation of the Castle, the book that MFiaB is an (even looser) adaptation of.

      So Soderbergh's clearly got good taste in reading material, and he's got enough commercial success that hopefully the hollywood studio system won't interfere with him too much.

      We'll see...

      Cheers
      -b

    2. Re:i cannot believe this by vidarh · · Score: 4, Interesting
      The russian version is an absolutely fantastic movie, and is highly recommended viewing, though a bit long for some. I watched the movie years before reading the book, and upon reading the book, the images from the movie seemed to med to match perfectly with how everything was described in the book, which is something that happens all to rarely.

      Solaris is one of perhaps 2-3 science fiction movies from the former Soviet block that are worth watching, and it's easily one of my top 10 favorite science fiction movies ever...

    3. Re:i cannot believe this by DEBEDb · · Score: 2, Informative
      Solaris is one of perhaps 2-3 science fiction movies from the former Soviet block that are worth watching


      Another one of the 2-3 is Stalker, by the
      same director. :)

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      Considered harmful.
    4. Re:i cannot believe this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      See this if possible. It starts a little slow and they mess with the timeline a bit but once the film gets onto Solaris it rocks.

    5. Re:i cannot believe this by Chente · · Score: 1

      I came to it from the other direction, and read the book before seeing the movie. As often happens in these cases, the movie left me very disappointed...partly because the images I had formed in my imagination were completely different from those in the film...and I missed the philosophy and the subtle, dry humor in the accounts of the early history of the exploration of Solaris that were in the book.

      However, one thing that the movie got exactly right was the plight and the pathos of poor Rheya...one of the most poignant characters in all science fiction, she's like a ghost come back to haunt herself. Blade Runner slightly touches on her plight with the character of Rachel, but only fleetingly and timidly; it never engages the emotions as they are engaged in the book and movie versions of Solaris.

      Humm...now you're making me want to go reread Solaris, and then watch the movie :-)

      Vince

      chente@attbi.com

    6. Re:i cannot believe this by DEBEDb · · Score: 1
      the movie left me very disappointed...partly because the images I had formed in my imagination were completely different from those in the film


      This is a frequent source of disappointment. But isn't it actually better? You got your own images,
      and now you got another vision from the director.


      A film can be an illustration, and it's nice,
      (like LOTR, say) but when the filmmaker is a real
      artist he reinterprets the original work with his
      own vision. You then get 2 for the price of 1,
      as it were.

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  33. MS rewrite by YanceyAI · · Score: 2
    Our protagonist in MFiaB starts out by receiving a Mission...Problem is, his superiors won't tell him what the mission is, let alone the proper chain of command to clarify it. Through accidental subterfuge and persistence, he finally corners someone into providing his mission briefing, however some part of the officialdom steals it back before he can read more than the first somewhat disturbing page.

    REWRITE:

    Our protagonist in MS starts out by receiving a Mission to update some code...Problem is, his superiors won't show him the rest of the code, let alone the proper chain of command to clarify it. Through accidental subterfuge and persistence, he finally corners someone into providing him with the code, however some part of the officialdom steals it back before he can read more than the first somewhat disturbing line./B)

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    Can I bum a sig?
  34. Figuratively Speaking by WellHungYungWun · · Score: 0

    Great, I'm as happy as a puppy with 2 peters.

    --
    "On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero."
  35. neologism by glitchvern · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Neologism \Ne*ol"o*gism\, n. [Cf. F. n['e]ologisme.]
    1. The introduction of new words, or the use of old words in a new sense.
    --Mrs. Browning.
    [1913 Webster]

    2. A new word, phrase, or expression.
    [1913 Webster]

    3. A new doctrine; specifically, rationalism.
    [1913 Webster]

    That's my new word for the day.

  36. Soderbergh also did Kafka by SEGV · · Score: 1

    Check IMDB further, and you'll find that Steven Soderbergh also did a movie called Kafka. And, one of his early shorter films was apparently a rather disturbing Kafkaesque film (I haven't seen it).

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    Software Developer
  37. ⓘ ⓐ ⓖⓡⓔⓔ post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    with this post.

    freebsd would have been a better sol'n. Instead you ruined everything with LiNUX.

  38. Soderbergh also did Kafka by SEGV · · Score: 1

    Check out his movie Kafka.

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  39. (Was:Isn't this the RPG Paranoia?) by GolemK6 · · Score: 1

    It sure sounds like it to me. Fantastic game, although after playing "The Yellow Clearance Black Box Blues", all other adventures seemed bland and lifeless by comparison.

    The Computer Is Your Friend!

  40. And in the next episode... by n9hmg · · Score: 3, Informative

    We review Stranger in a Strange Land, followed by The Book of Kells, then the Res Gestae, then The Rosetta Stone.... Come on! This book bored me to near-death 21 years ago. It was a long grinding-down of the soul, like Catcher in the Rye.
    I appreciate the effort of the review, and all, but by now, anybody likely to be on /.(literate, intelligent, older than 12 years) should have already been exposed to it.

    1. Re:And in the next episode... by faboo · · Score: 1

      Personally, I've never heard of the book, nor the author. I should qualify that by explaining that I'm 19 and entering my 3rd year of college. I also went to a public highschool, which seems to explain a lot of my litarary inadequicies.
      So, while I lack any sort of income at the moment, I'll probably pick it up if I see it.

  41. Re:Why nobody reads sci-fi by ImaLamer · · Score: 2

    This book review provides a perfect example of why my friends, family, and wife would never be interested in reading science fiction. "Paper-eating bacteria?" "Quadruple agents?" Not only does the plot lack believability, it sounds ridiculous to boot. It's really no wonder why this sort of fiction has no mass appeal: it's pure, unadulterated tripe, thrown together by some hack who could never make it as a real writer. Fans will say that it is "insightful" or some such nonsense, but at the end of the day, every minute you spend reading a book like "Memiors Found in a Bathtub" is a minute wasted.

    There is this that eats CD layers!

  42. Re:Lem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fans should also know that there already was a movie made based on his book solaris.

  43. Re:The BOOKS by red_gnom · · Score: 2, Informative

    One of his best books is also "The Futurological Congress".

    There are many more:

    Stanislaw Lem

    The writing of Stanislaw Lem

  44. Re:Cyberiad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just finished the Cyberiad -- Loved it!
    But it's not "complete mindless fun" as each fun story is full of commentary about modern life in cold war poland (some are more overt than others). I don't have a lot of time to read and had to go a few days in between chapters -- I found that the stories have a definite aftertaste, in other words they take on different flavors as you think about the events Lem creates.

  45. Re:Uh... wha?::::Important Question by brooks_talley · · Score: 1

    Um, no. You can email me at brooks at ipolis dot net if you want to. Dunno why it didn't get linked.

    Cheers
    -b

  46. Exactly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Interesting, yes.

    News... not after 3 decades.

    So is "Stuff that matters" a seperate category of Slashdot?(I always thought that it was just a phase amplifing "News for Nerds.")

  47. Which Lem book... by ceswiedler · · Score: 2

    Which book of his has a character whose brain has been cut in half, and the narrator is the left side of that brain? I remember that the guy has control of his speech and the right side of his body, and eventually communicates with the other side of his brain through tapping Morse code on his left hand.

    Now I remember..."Peace on Earth". Interesting read. The Cyberiad is also excellent.

    1. Re:Which Lem book... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Peace on Earth" is one of the last if not the last of Lem's books. It pretty much sums up Lem earlier writings. Many of his favorites ideas come again, but still it's a good book.

      Masi

  48. talley's tally by witort · · Score: 2, Funny

    I really can't recommend this [...] book highly enough.
    rating: 9

    Whoa, talk about Kafkaesque!

  49. OH MY GOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where do you people keep coming from? ANYTHING the editors [sic] feel is remotely interesting is fair game for slashdot. As it happens, Sci-fi book reviews are TOTALLY normal.

  50. tracking the sides by mbaudis · · Score: 1
    I wouldn't want to have to keep scrap paper /w me at all times just trying to keep track of which side the secret agents were really on!

    piece of paper wouldn't help you at all; no figure in the book knows it's own side...


    seriously, i read about 20 books by lem (probably many more than published in the us?); he greatly shaped my sense for irony and positive sarcasm. his style is for me on one side connected with the strugazki brothers (sci-fi), on the other side there are duerrenmatt and kafka (paranoia, institutions, labyrinth).


    in general, the comments in this thread by people who have read some of his books are in line with some of my experiences.

    1. Re:Tracking the sides by cicho · · Score: 1

      "Memoirs" _is_ a Mobius strip. It's an amazing book.

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      "Only the small secrets need to be protected. The big ones are kept secret by public incredulity." - Marshall McLuhan
    2. Re:tracking the sides by xigxag · · Score: 2

      Furthermore, there's really no point in trying to keep score. Think of Alice's Wonderland -- there's a steady tone of giddy whimsy underlying the whole affair. Nothing quite adds up add the end, nor is it meant to. It's a send-up of an espionage mystery but one which never gets solved.

      To my recollection, the best bit in the novel is Lem's parody of the canonical "spy seduced by spy babe" scene. It's a little cheesy but a great deal of fun.

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      There are two kinds of people: 1) those who start arrays with one and 1) those who start them with zero.
  51. Slashdot-22 by delcielo · · Score: 2

    CmdrTaco: "Help him. Help him."
    CowboyNeal: "Help who?."
    CmdrTaco: "Help the bombadier."
    CowboyNeal: "I'm the bombadier."
    CmdrTaco: "Then help HIM."

    CowboyNeal crawls back to find JonKatz lying injured on the floor. He's dying(or irrelevant) but he doesn't know it yet.

    JonKatz: "I'm cold."
    CowboyNeal, holding his innards in place: "You're gonna be okay kid."

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  52. well now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this is my press release and i am standing by it, so when all the uproar subsides you can then BLOW ME.

  53. Contributing to the problem? by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    (* dystopian works that expose the inherent absurdity of authoritarian bureaucracies *)

    The last thing geeks need to hear is complaints about how stupid bureaucracies and PHB's are. Many of us are already aware and frustrated by such.

    What we really need is either a practical book on how to *fix* those problems, or a book on how to *tolerate* and live comfortably with bureaucracies and PHB mentality so that we don't keep having urges to rage against the machine and end up getting fired or demoted.

    1. Re:Contributing to the problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a science-fiction novel DUMBASS.

    2. Re:Contributing to the problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My preferred coping system has always been walking out... sometimes for a couple minutes, sometimes a couple hours (crisis be damned), once was forever. ...better than going postal.

    3. Re:Contributing to the problem? by TRACK-YOUR-POSITION · · Score: 2
      What we really need is either a practical book on how to *fix* those problems, or a book on how to *tolerate* and live comfortably with bureaucracies and PHB mentality so that we don't keep having urges to rage against the machine and end up getting fired or demoted.

      The problem with all bureaucracies is their necessary assumption that all human activity can be regulated with a narrow set of rules that could fit in a book. Providing a book claiming to fix that set of rules only makes the problem all the worse.

      What's truly needed is a practical book on eliminating all bureaucracy, all formal social order, without replacing it with a new one. Lacking that, no solution to leading a tolerable existance within organized society can be published--the Machine is really adaptive when it comes to crushing people's dreams. We're all on our own, and your fellow geek getting upset and disturbing the social order can only help.

    4. Re:Contributing to the problem? by DEBEDb · · Score: 1
      a book on how to *tolerate* and live comfortably with bureaucracies and PHB mentality


      Read some Robert Anton Wilson. :)

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  54. Political Climate by PsychoTicOne · · Score: 1

    I am surprised nobody has mentioned the circumstances ounder which this book has been written. At the time, the Soviet Union was still intact and very much influential in Poland. A huge body of Lem's work is thinly veiled satire critisizing totalitarian givernments in general and USSR in particular (USA also got a fair beating at his hands). When you compare Lem to Orwell, keep in mind that Lem was writing in the face of potential immediate persecution. He walked a fine line, balancing satire, obscuring his ideas from censors but not general public and using his popularity with readers as a deterrent to his arrest. That takes guts.

    MFIAB is fabulous, and so is everything else Lem has written. Pick it up, you won't regret it.

    1. Re:Political Climate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very well said. Milan Kundera (The Unbearable Lightness of Being, The Book of Laughter and Forgetting) wrote in a similar climate, and I think there are similarities between Lem and Kundera. Both are brilliant. Both write stories that are sad, funny, clever, touching, and above all, entirely relevant. Both are well worth reading.

    2. Re:Political Climate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Personal courage != superior literature.
      Also keep in mind that orwell was a world
      war ii vet and knew whereof he spoke , havinf experienced some degree of difficulty in the service of the US.
      I find your comments somewhat abrupt and unsavory.

  55. My favorite part by chiph · · Score: 1

    ... that reflects the typical goverment employee-for-life is the fat man who decrypted the message - "There is no answer".

    The Cyberiad is also very good - sort of a cybernetic Grimm's fairy tales. I think it was the second sally where the two constructors built the multimortal polypolice beast with laser eyes that was used to kidnap King Korodulan. Along with a green gig with a lantern on the left side for a diversion.

    The translation of that book was outstanding - all the terms, rhymes, puns, and alliterations came through very well.

    Chip H.

  56. hear hear! by IndependentVik · · Score: 1

    You're perfectly right. I mean, it's not like the United States would ever hold one of her own citizens in captivity without formally charging said citizen with a crime or allowing said citizen to speak to a lawyer. And even were such a thing to happen the government would surely at least guarantee that said citizen would eventually get a trial by jury.

    Oh, wait . . .

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    I'd suggest you don't use Slashdot as your only news source, or you will suffer permanent brain damage.
    1. Re:hear hear! by neocon · · Score: 1

      Or rather, `it's not like those with an axe to grind would carefully ignore the facts and instead spread their own version of events'.

      Let's look at the facts of Mr. al-Muhajir's case, shall we? Mr. al-Muhajir was picked up on other charges, and has had a lawyer at every stage of the process. Even as we speak, he is contesting his transfer to military jurisdiction in a Manhattan courtroom. As with any judicial procedure, he has the right to contest the ruling that he is a combatant, and appeal as often as he may wish, to the Supreme Court if he deems it necessary.

      In his appeals, the main precedent which will be referenced is Ex Parte Quirin, an extremely similar case from 1943, in which the US Supreme Court upheld the precedent, stretching back to the earliest days of our republic, that persons entering the US to commit acts of war in the service of a foreign power are subject to military jurisdiction. In particular, the court ruled in Quirin that

      Citizenship in the United States of an enemy belligerent does not relieve him from the consequences of a belligerency which is unlawful because in violation of the law of war. Citizens who associate themselves with the military arm of the enemy government, and with its aid, [317 U.S. 1, 38] guidance and direction enter this country bent on hostile acts are enemy belligerents within the meaning of the Hague Convention and the law of war. Cf. Gates v. Goodloe, 101 U.S. 612, 615, 617 S., 618.
      and
      petitioners here, upon the conceded facts, were plainly within those boundaries, and were held in good faith for trial by military commission, charged with being enemies who, with the purpose of destroying war materials and utilities, entered or after entry remained in our territory without uniform-an offense against the law of war. We hold only that those particular acts constitute an offense against the law of war which the Constitution authorizes to be tried by military commission.

      So, if you wish to make an argument that the law should be changed from what it has been since the birth of our nation, go ahead -- but don't try to convince us that the law is being changed by this case.

    2. Re:hear hear! by IndependentVik · · Score: 1

      Ok, if I'm wrong about this I'd seriously like to be corrected, but everything I'd read had indicated that there were no formal charges brought up on the man and that he had simply been thrown in a military prison. You're saying that he was "picked up on other charges". Do you have a reference for that?

      "Officials said the plot had not advanced beyond the discussion stage, and he has not been charged with any crime."source

      "Our interest is not in trying him and punishing him," Rumsfeld said. "Our interest is in finding out what he knows." [same source]

      I had also heard that he was without a lawyer during initial interrogations whereas you say he's had one along. Again, if you had a source for this, I'd be very interested.

      As for the Supreme Court precedence, I'll have to concede you're obviously more well-versed in the law than I am. However, I would most humbly suggest that the Supreme Court has had a history of supporting wrong-headed decisions and the simple fact that it supported the suspension of constitutional rights in the past does not make this suspension morally right.

      In addition, the problem with the ruling you cite is that it presupposes the guilt of the defendant. Hell, if the guy's guilty, I'd be the first to shoot him--just pass me the revolver. The problem is that you don't know he's guilty. What if they put you on trial tomorrow and said, "You're under military juridstiction b/c we know you colluded with an enemy government regarding an act of war against the United States."

      Sure, you'd be free to appeal to a court to try and get a standard federal trial, but you and I both know that a judge who looks like he's soft on terrorism is not going to be a very popular judge.

      That, my friend, that is the real danger. What's to stop the government from drumming up phony "enemy of the state" charges against law-abiding (but dissenting) US citizens and then throwing them in military tribunals? The fact that Bush says Padilla is "a bad guy", that just isn't enough for me.

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    3. Re:hear hear! by neocon · · Score: 1

      OK, let's go through the procedure that protects us from the valid concern in your last paragraph, and then we'll look at sources. Were this simply a case of `anyone declared an enemy of the state can be turned over to the military', you would be quite right to object, but that is not the case.

      Long standing precedent, going back to before the war of 1812, and with corresponding cases in the Civil War and the Second World War makes clear that military law is the proper jurisdiction for trying cases of an individual entering the US in the service of a hostile power in order to commit acts of law. As cited above, Ex Parte Quirin upholds the established precedent that such cases are a matter for military justice even if the suspect is a US citizen, but also leaves room for civilian court appeals of the decision that a case falls in this category.

      Mr. al-Muhajir, ne Padilla, is filing just such an appeal right now.here in New York. If the court rules that there is not valid evidence to classify him as an enemy combatant, he will be remanded to a civilian court. At that point, the DOJ can either seek to bring other charges, or release him.

      So this is not something which can happen lightly. In addition to the direct order from the president which is needed to classify a suspect as an enemy combatant, the whole process is subject to judicial review in the normal federal courts.

      Now, on to sources. Here are some more articles on the matter:

      • this piece from Newsday
      • suggests that Mr. al-Muhajir was held on a material witness warrant before being charged.
      • this piece from the Baltimore Sun discusses some of the precedents in the case, and what the government's options are, as does this piece from National Review.
      • this piece from USA Today has some more discussion of the case.
    4. Re:hear hear! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When did congress declare war?

    5. Re:hear hear! by IndependentVik · · Score: 1

      Well thought out, but there's still a section or two I have to question. Though, you're probably tired of listening to me by now :)

      Long standing precedent . . . makes clear that military law is the proper jurisdiction for trying cases of an individual entering the US in the service of a hostile power in order to commit acts of law.

      I repeat my previous objection: Yes, it's fine to put men under military law if they are, in fact, "in the service of a hostile power" but how do we know they are? Wouldn't you have to have a trial first to determine this? If not, then you're presupposing guilt. It's backwards logic to say that we consider you a terrorist, we'll hold you indefinitely, and somewhere along the line we'll give you a fair trial. After all, we've already considered him guilty enough of the charge to suspend his rights--why bother having a trial at all?

      It seems to me that the burden of proof should be on the government and not the defendant. Instead, as I understand it, all the president has to say is "enemy combatant" and the suspect falls under military law. Held up by the Supreme Court or not, that doesn't strike me as due process.

      I agree with you that it is an involved process, that the defendant has the ability to appeal his status as an enemy combatant, as well he should, but it's the ease with which "enemy combatant" is assigned in the first place that I find disturbing. What if (and I doubt this, but it's possible) there's no evidence against him at all? How would we know about any evidence if he was held for an indefinite time and then later had a secret military trial? Yes, some facts will be brought to light by dint of his pending appeal but it's backwards for a suspect to have to file an appeal for his own rights. This brings me to my next point: secrecy.

      From Newsday: "Although Justice Department officials wouldn't confirm it, Padilla likely was arrested on a material witness warrant."

      From USA Today: "It was unclear late Monday whether Al Muhajir had a lawyer."

      Why wouldn't the DOJ confirm? Why don't we know if he had a lawyer during his one month internment before Bush declared him an enemy combatant? What is the government trying to hide? I don't need to hear all the evidence against the man, as it would probably violate national security, but why can we not know for certain of the charges against him or whether he had a lawyer?

      I appreciate your sources--they were most informative.

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    6. Re:hear hear! by neocon · · Score: 1

      This is not relevant. The earliest precedents of this case go back to the undeclared hostilities between the US and France in the early nineteenth century, and it has never been a requirement that the US be in a state of declared war to detain people arrested while entering the US to commit an act of war in the service of a foreign power.

      Nor could it be otherwise -- or are you suggesting that had we shot down one or more Japanese pilots during the attack on Pearl Harbor we would have had to release them because we had not yet declared war at the time of the attack?

    7. Re:hear hear! by neocon · · Score: 1

      I repeat my previous objection: Yes, it's fine to put men under military law if they are, in fact, "in the service of a hostile power" but how do we know they are? Wouldn't you have to have a trial first to determine this? If not, then you're presupposing guilt. It's backwards logic to say that we consider you a terrorist, we'll hold you indefinitely, and somewhere along the line we'll give you a fair trial. After all, we've already considered him guilty enough of the charge to suspend his rights--why bother having a trial at all?

      It is certainly the case that Mr. al-Muhajir is entitled to a hearing in a civilian court to decide whether there is sufficient evidence to hold him as an enemy combatant. He is getting that hearing even as we speak -- his lawyers filed a motion to overturn the use of military jurisdiction in his case last week, and it began to be heard this week. To this point, the standing precedent (remember, the administration is not staking out a new position here) is that the nature of acts of war is such that actions to prevent them may need to occur before the judicial review process kicks in (as in the case which Ex Parte Quirin grew out of, where several German agents, one a US citizen entered the country in order to commit attacks, but were arrested before any attacks had been committed).

      I would certainly like to see the procedure here fleshed out a little better -- it is an area of law which we as a nation have had the good fortune not to have to visit very often. The current hearing in New York, and subsequent appeals will certainly help clear some of this up.

    8. Re:hear hear! by neocon · · Score: 1

      As a side note, I wouldn't assume that the government is `hiding something' because not all details were available as the linked articles went to press -- all of those came out within 48 hours after Mr. al-Muhajir's transfer to military jurisdiction, which is really the first time the case became interesting to the media. Much more information has been available in later reports.

    9. Re:hear hear! by Boronx · · Score: 1
      All you're suggesting is that there is already precedent for the abuse of civil rights. If your interpretation of the law is correct, anyone can who re-enters the country can be arrested for indeterminate periods by executive fiat.

      The Bush administration is violating his fourth ammendment rights and will continue to do so until let him meet with his lawyer *and* either charge him with a crime followed by a speedy trial, or show compelling evidence to a judge why he should be considered a military prisoner and not a criminal suspect.

      It's also pretty clear that we shouldn't be trouncing on our constitutional rights because due process for some Nazi saboteurs was violated 55 years ago. By the same logic it would be good idea to incarcerate all the Muslims, since the courts never shut down the Japanese internment camps.

    10. Re:hear hear! by Boronx · · Score: 1

      Who are these people that don't want to stand up for their constitional rights? How come so many staunch U.S. patriots are willing to run like chicken littles at the first test of the strength of the Constitution? My God, when we've lost the bill of rights, what do we have left? The damage the Bush is doing to the 4th ammendment is every bit as damaging as what the terrorists are attempting to do.

    11. Re:hear hear! by neocon · · Score: 1

      All you're suggesting is that there is already precedent for the abuse of civil rights. If your interpretation of the law is correct, anyone can who re-enters the country can be arrested for indeterminate periods by executive fiat.

      Subject, of course, to judicial review, in which the executive would have to show that they have sufficient evidence to consider the suspect to be a combatant and in the service of a hostile power. Mr. al-Muhajir is getting that judicial review in a Manhattan courtroom right now, and may appeal that court's decision all the way up to the Supreme Court, if he is unhappy with it.

      The Bush administration is violating his fourth ammendment rights and will continue to do so until let him meet with his lawyer *and* either charge him with a crime followed by a speedy trial, or show compelling evidence to a judge why he should be considered a military prisoner and not a criminal suspect.

      Under the precedent which has existed in this nation since the dawn of the nineteenth century, and has been upheld a number of times, the current situation is not in violation of the fourth ammendment. Should a current court decide otherwise, Mr. al-Muhajir will, of course, be immediately remanded to the DOJ, who may then release him or press criminal charges.

      So, again, the administration is not setting new precedent here. If you think that this power should be removed from the executive, who have held it since the nation's founding, you should argue so, and you should be following the current hearings in Manhattan very closely.

    12. Re:hear hear! by neocon · · Score: 1

      The Bush administration isn't doing any damage to the fourth ammendment -- they are exercising a power which has existed under the constitution since the earliest days of our republic. If you think that power should be withdrawn, argue that. Don't try to claim that this is a new invention, though.

      If you want my opinion of who is doing damage to our constitutional rights, I'll tell you -- it is those who shout `civil rights violation' at every opportunity, without looking into the details or legal precedent in the case, and thus sap all the power of such claims when they really are needed.

      How seriously do you think people will take search and seizure rights in this country if people keep shouting that it is a violation of their rights to have their bag scanned when they board a plane? How seriously do you think people take your claims about the fourth ammendment if you can't bother to acquaint yourself with the legal precedent in the area?

    13. Re:hear hear! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If this is what it takes to stop further suicide attacks then so be it.
      How are you going to justify your refusal to take ALL possible precautions to the familes of people killed in the next attack ?

    14. Re:hear hear! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      4th amendment exists only because we are able to protect ourselves and our way of life from external hostile elements.

      In another words, failure to take necessary steps to protect ourselves will result in destruction of America.
      You are naive.

    15. Re:hear hear! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you don't like Bush then say it out loud without wrapping it in half-baked constitutional arguments.

    16. Re:hear hear! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Im allways amazed by the extent to which Amerikkkans will got to justify the disappearance
      of their own civil liberties.

      1- The propagande is exceptionally effective in the
      US.

      2- The founding fathers of the USA are turning in their graves.

    17. Re:hear hear! by DEBEDb · · Score: 1
      My God, when we've lost the bill of rights, what do we have left?


      Hundreds of cable and satellite channels,
      comfortable modern housing, McDs and shopping malls? This is enough for most people, obviously.

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  57. Ummmmmmm, no by kfg · · Score: 1

    That would be like a tyranical theocracy.

    And authoritarian bureaucracy is like the EPA, the IRS or your local town planning board.

    KFG

  58. Lem Advice by MEK · · Score: 2

    Cyberiad is one of his funniest books. It is the story (mainly) of two robot constructors (robots who construct all sorts of amazing things). It's rather like an Arabian Night for Robots. The translation, by Michael Kandel (despite the shared initials, no relation) is superb. When browsing Lem on the shelves, pay attention to the translator, if the translator is Kandel (who now writes his own SF) pay special attention. Unfortunately, the translation for Solaris (which was not made directly from the Polish original, but from a French or German translation) is deadly.

    MEK

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  59. Used to be one with every copy of Linux by Valdrax · · Score: 2

    It used to be installed as part of the bsd-games package on Red Hat and other Linux distros. I'm very disappointed to find out and report that it was removed from the package in 1998 with version 2.2 because of a lack of a clear license. As far as I can tell, it was freely published the Jan/Feb 1997 edition of "SpaceGamer/FantasyGamer." It was probably meant to be public domain. It was simple, but a lot of fun.

    If you want to find it, get it from the Debian archives here.

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  60. Online "How The World Was Saved" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.cyberiad.info/english/dziela/cyberiada/ cyberiadapl.htm
    After this short story, you will want to read everything he wrote.

  61. Introductions to Lem by jpack · · Score: 1

    I do think that MFiaB is a great book, but I would definitely not recommend it as an introduction to Lem. It's really quite a trip and takes a lot of patience to get through. The paper-eating blight history and archeological view is a great quick start but it gets somewhat hard to follow after that.

    As others have said the Cyberiad may be the place to start, although I think the Chain of Chance is especially good to introduce people that aren't normally inclined to SF.

    Another thing that's great about Lem is how easy it is to find used copies for cheap. Used Book Central has MFiaB for $2!.

  62. The Ruling Triumverate of SciFi by Mittermeyer · · Score: 2

    Unlike the holy trinity usually espoused (Heinlein, Asimov,Clarke), the real ruling triumverate of scifi is Lem, PKD and Cordwainer Smith.

    There have been plenty of posts on the first two so I'll just expound on the latter. CS was the man who wrote the Army's Psychological Warfare book (real name Col. Paul Linebarger). He already had a career as a Chinese studies professor, and was given a Chinese name by Sun Yat Sen. Obviously he had a full career outside of scifi but chose to write it as a hobby.

    His stories revolved around a future government called the Instrumentality. No one messes with the Instrumentality- they are so way more dangerous then any other scifi government it's not funny.

    The Instrumentality has been so successful at making people 'happy', using a slave race of bio-engineered ehanced humanoids from animal stock for economic activity and defending humanity that everyone is stagnating. So a lot of the main timeline stories have to do with the Rebirth, in which disease, accidental death, and misery is intentionally reintroduced and the slave races are treated right.

    He also had non-Instrumentality stories, including two bizarre communist science stories, and War No. 81-Q in which wars are settled by fighting robotic zeppelins on TV (this was written in 1928!).

    Most of his stuff was short stories, but he did write a novel called Norstrilia, about a boy from a superwealthy planet selling a crucial drug found on no other planet, who buys Earth. All of it.

    Norstrilia and Dune came out the same year. Norstrilia is better.

    Vance, LeGuin and Silverberg come close, but everyone else is an acne-pocked teenager compared to these folks.

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    1. Re:The Ruling Triumverate of SciFi by richieb · · Score: 2
      the real ruling triumverate of scifi is Lem, PKD and Cordwainer Smith

      It's kind of funny, because Lem thinks that most of Western SF is pure crap. The only writer he likes is Philip K. Dick. In Lem's book "Microworlds" he even has an essay titled: Philip K. Dick: A Visionary among Charlatans.

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    2. Re:The Ruling Triumverate of SciFi by DEBEDb · · Score: 1
      because Lem thinks that most of Western SF is pure crap


      But most of it (just like most of any other
      mass-produced lit. or music or whatever) is
      crap.

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  63. not an intro indeed - begin w/Solaris/Eden/Pirx/.. by BACbKA · · Score: 1

    Agreed. I think it is definitely not a "typical Lem" book. I would recommend "Solaris", "Eden", "Cyberiad" or "Pirx..." for a more typical Lem start.

    Back in 1980s in Russia I was stunned by "Eden" - how did the authorities let this book out when it so obviously denounces the Soviet-style total information control? Great book indeed...

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  64. Lem is simply the best.... by Chente · · Score: 1

    Thanks so much for reviewing this, I've been thinking of rereading Lem's work...as well as looking into Phillip K. Dick again.

    I recently reread Lem's "The Futurological Congress" and was struck with how horrifyingly funny it is when read in the context the post Sept. 11 world. Lem's description of standard hotel emergency (anti-terrorism) gear is a hoot.

    "Some of the hotel furnishings puzzled me---the ten-foot crowbar propped up in a corner of the jade and jasper bathroom, for example, or the khaki camouflage cape in the closet, or the sack of hardtack under the bed. Over the tub, next to the towels, hung an enormous spool of standard Alpine rope, and on the door was a card I first noticed when I went to triple-lock the super-yale. It read: "This Room Guaranteed BOMB-FREE. From the Management."

    The thing that is most striking to me about Lem is how incredibly creative the man is. He tosses off more ideas per chapter (or short story) than one finds in most trilogies (or dare I say it...in the entire life's output of many science fiction writers). Miraculous stuff.

    Vince

    chente@attbi.com

  65. The Star Diaries by Mittermeyer · · Score: 2

    While Solaris is great stuff and the Cyberiad is the funniest scifi novel in existence, I think the masterwork is The Star Diaries, a collection of very loosely connected stories (called Voyages) about humanity's arrogance, stupidity, and how these are universal attributes.

    Lem's hero, Ijon Tichy (kind of an interstellar Candide), gets farther and farther from Earth and runs into more and more bizarre planets. On one voyage he is Earth's representative to being admitted to the galactic UN, but humanity is barred because we evolved from garbage and a germ-laden cough, and another planet takes bioengineering to it's illogical extreme.

    Any one of these stories could have been a novel in a moneygrubber's hands, but Lem keeps the ideas flowing thickly and densely (in Rucker's sense of the word). The Star Diaries is an intense read.

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    1. Re:The Star Diaries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jack Vance: The Demon Princes.
      More literate and accessible at the same time.
      Jack Vance is the complete scope not, just
      the "jump on the existentialism" train of
      thought writer.

    2. Re:The Star Diaries by richieb · · Score: 2
      I agree 100%. "The Star Diaries" is the first book I read by Lem when I was 12. I've re-read it many times and each time I find more stuff in it that's great. I'm not sure whether all the Ijon Tichy stories were ever published as a single volume though...

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  66. Re:Why nobody reads sci-fi by Chente · · Score: 1

    laughing...

    Then please, by all means...DO NOT READ SCIENCE FICTION! And please...comment on what you have not and will never read with authority and conviciton. That always impresses people.
    :-)

    Vince

    chente@attbi.com

  67. Re:The Ruling Triumvirate of SciFi by Rui+del-Negro · · Score: 2

    Personally I can't stand PKD. Some of his ideas are interesting, but I don't like the style of writing. I think he might be medically insane.

    Heinlein is competent, but all his books seem to follow more or less the same patterns (the hero is usually filthy rich, there's always some battle in court, etc.). Somewhat like Hollywood cinema, they're always extraordinary stories about extraordinary people. Personally I prefer extraordinary stories about ordinary people.

    Silverberg has one good book (The Labyrinth) and the rest (the ones I've read, at least) are painfully bad.

    Another author I like is John Varley. He usually has interesting, original ideas, and writes quite well. But in some of his books I have a feeling he just got lost and couldn't come up with an ending that made any sense.

    Lem is definitely one of my favourite authors, and I'd recommend him to anyone who likes SF (and most people who don't as well). Memoirs is not a good place to start, though. Most of his books are much "lighter" and easier to read. I wouldn't recommend Memoirs (or His Master's Voice, or even Solaris) to someone who doesn't know any of his work.

    Fiasco is a more or less conventional novel, where Lem's usual cynicism is woven into the story in a way that won't put off the casual readers.

    Futurological Congress, Star Diaries and Memoirs of a Space Traveler are very funny books, and a good introduction to Lem's habit of creating new words to give a shape to new concepts. The same applies to a lot of his short stories. The Invasion from Aldebaran is brilliant.

    Return from the Stars is (like Solaris) more about people than it is about the world, and will probably appeal to people who don't like SF, as well as to those who do.

    Here are links to a couple of sites dedicated to Lem's work:

    http://www.k26.com/solaris

    http://www.cyberiad.info/english/main.htm

    RMN
    ~~~

  68. Re:Why nobody reads sci-fi by ImaLamer · · Score: 2

    don't reply to my comments like that!

    i never wrote that drivel

    :)

    hava niceday

  69. SciFI as politics by Mittermeyer · · Score: 2

    Many people dismiss scifi as fantasy or power trips or sterile egghead thought games, which certainly it can be. But scifi is really more political then anything else. That facet is built into the very nature of the beast, as scifi is all about What Are The Consequences of This Technology/ Colonization/ Biochanges, etc. etc.

    Lem wrote Memoirs and used the US CIA as backdrop, but really he was talking about the communist police state, and tweaked it right under their noses. Plenty of Lem's other works are political, but more about smashing the humanocentric world view then anything else.

    Lem's spiritual scifi predecessor Karel Capek (the man who adapted the Czech word robot to it's current meaning) had a savagely funny book called War With The Newts that was a scathing indictment of the pre-WWII environment.

    Asimov's Foundation series is very very political.

    Star Trek has been political from day one.

    The Dune series is nothing but politics- it may be CHOAM instead of GE/Microsoft, but the people are the same.

    In general well-written histories can do the job better then scifi, but scifi can get you out of a mental rut and open your mind to other possible consequences that history just cannot deal with. A history book cannot tell you about what the DMCA or Homeland Defense can turn into like Fairenheit 451 or 1984 can.

    In fact, speaking of 1984, scifi dystopias might even deter such evils from occuring and create history (or at least terminate them from happening). The reverse can be true though, a lot of British paranoia about the German WWI fleet was frothed up by the 1900s functional equivalent of a scifi/Clancy novel.

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  70. no way! by IndependentVik · · Score: 1

    Ok, this has to be a troll. I mean, a homepage on geocities?

    ;)

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    1. Re:no way! by synshyne · · Score: 1

      hehe ummm yeh...i'm too cheap to pay for one in my own name...so call me what you will i really dont care! I dont even work on the lame thing...its just there for sh*ts and giggles...hahahah

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  71. some thoughts on Memoirs Found in a Bathtub by Avumede · · Score: 1

    This is one of my favorite books. On the surface, it's a parody of spys and "military intelligence". Deeper down, it's really about the meaning of life. Replace "what is the mission" with "what is the meaning of life" and you see the parallels.

    In another level, it's a great book for programmers. It often has the kind of problems programmers love to solve. You're looking to find out what is going on, and you have a certain number of clues. But every conclusion you draw from those clues violates a subset of them. There is seemingly nothing you can think of that would explain all of them. But are all of the clues important, perhaps some are mere coincidence? These are thoughts that every programmer has had while debugging a particularly nasty problem. It's fun in a way, and maddening in the way. It's what makes this book so special.

    If you like that sort of thing, you might want to also checkout Lem's "The Investigation" and also "The Chain of Chance" for some deep mysteries.

  72. Sounds like by kaoshin · · Score: 1

    Kafka's The Trial. I haven't read The Castle tho.

  73. Philip K Dick was a Dick? by theolein · · Score: 2

    Reading Philip K Dick's letter to the FBI about Lem says legions about Philip K Dick, the FBI and the level of intelligence in the intelligence community.

    1. Re:Philip K Dick was a Dick? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Writers like dick should be castrated.
      Harlan Ellison for example.

  74. Tracking the sides by Chris+Johnson · · Score: 2
    Write it on a Mobius strip.

    In invisible ink! :D

  75. Lem and Strugatski by nicospoul · · Score: 1

    For those who like Lems work, let me suggest also two less-known but very good and very similar in their writings sci-fi novelists. Arkadi & Boris Strugatski. .I think that their novel "Definitely Maybe" are in many ways similar to the "Memoirs Found..." novel. The same questioning about the validity of the known social systems, the same claustrophobic feeling plus an excellent plot, to good to be described in a few worlds.

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  76. Lem and Dick by pyramid+termite · · Score: 2

    It's kind of interesting that you mention Lem and Dick, their opposing viewpoints and their being on "opposite poles" as they're my two favorite SF writers. It may be something a lot like the radical right and the radical left moving so far to the extremes that they meet. A good case can be made for Lem being the most intelligent SF writer - but I wouldn't call Dick unintelligent by contrast. I would call him perhaps the most empathic SF writer - there's a deep sense of existential compassion in much of his work. It's true that he was a screwed up human being, but I don't know how he could have avoided being so, having seen the reality that he saw. And as much as I like Gibson and Sterling and Stephenson, I've yet to read anything from them that was as brilliant or compassionate as Lem and Dick. People who haven't read these two aren't really familiar with the best that SF has to offer. I just wish there were people to follow them, although William Vollman's mainstream work is similar, in a much more disturbing way ...

  77. Mission... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Umm, Kafka's K does have a mission: he is the new surveyor, his functions are best known to himself. That is the hilarity of the situation.
    BTW, the movie is very well done,check it out
    if you can find it.

  78. No One beats Jack Vance, Period. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let the shit hit the fan.

  79. Re:The BOOKS by cicho · · Score: 1

    Glad you mentioned "The Futurological Congress" because, if one disregards the bland title, it's not only one of the funniest and most incisive things Lem wrote, it's also a blueprint for "The Matrix", except Lem based the concept on psychoactives, not rebel computers. (And published the novel around 1973.)

    This does spoil The Matrix for me, because while the jumpin' and kickin' is cool, the conceptual content of the movie is just Lem - severely watered down.

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    "Only the small secrets need to be protected. The big ones are kept secret by public incredulity." - Marshall McLuhan
  80. More recent books by richieb · · Score: 2
    Actually Lem has stopped writing fiction. He has published several books (in Polish) that are collection of essays on science and technology. BTW, he doesn't like the Internet.

    Here is a short review of one of these books I wrote last year:

    Bomba Megabitowa S. Lem. Another book by Lem in Polish. The title means "The Megabit Bomb". It's about the information explosion, Internet etc. It's hard to summarize this book. Lem feel pretty negative about the current Internet growth and the freedom that is gives people. He feels that this tends to bring out the worst in people. From his comments on computer viruses and hackers I'm guessing he is stuck using Windows. He thinks that the it's biotechnology and deeper understanding of evolution that will result in new ways of computing. He believes that AI is possible in principle, but not any time soon, as we don't really understand how human reason/conscioussness works (this has become my own view also).

    I don't agree with his opinions on the Net, but I think his predictions on biotech are more on the money. In fact he compares evolution to a large, massively parallel computation.

    --
    ...richie - It is a good day to code.
  81. my favourites by danny · · Score: 2
    My favorite Lem novels are probably The Cyberiad, His Master's Voice (an alien contact novel, but hardly your standard one), and The Futurological Congress .

    Danny.

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    I have written over 900 book reviews
  82. More Reviews by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would like to comment on this review, but I am too busy writing my own reviews of a couple of other new book releases, the Bhagavad-Gita and the Art of War.

  83. Remniscent of Catch-22?!? by tlambert · · Score: 1

    Catch-22 was first published in 1964. Memoirs was first published in 1961.

    Though I rather doubt that Heller reads Polish, so he would have had to wait until 1971, which was when the first English version was published. 8-).

    -- Terry

  84. Re:Memoirs Found In The Toilet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    dibona is a bona.

  85. Cyberiad (Re:Lem at his best) by po8 · · Score: 2

    Forget categories like "Stanislaw Lem" or "Science Fiction": The Cyberiad is unquestionably one of the all-time great works of literature.

  86. If you like MFIAB... by po8 · · Score: 2

    ...you may also like the fantasy-role-playing game Paranoia: a classic with a somewhat similar setting and feel. The well-written rulebook begins this way...

  87. Paranoia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This sounds an AWFUL lot like West End Games' PARANOIA game. (Or considering publishing dates, the other way around.)

  88. PWP SUKS0R! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Thank you very much! Now I'm browsing at level 0, and I'll never read about goatse, sex with farm animals, dolphins or geese or any interesting troll article again!

    YUO = LAMER

  89. Return From The Stars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I strongly recommend to anyone who feels out-of-sync with the world they live in (or with the "Homeland Security State") to read Lem's _Return From The Stars_.