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Star Trek: Nemesis Trailer to Premiere Tonight
savagexp writes "Dark Horizons is reporting that the trailer for the next Star Trek movie will premiere tonight on Entertainment Tonight and via the official website tonight at 7:30 EST." Makes me wish I could stomach
ET, or at least had some real bandwidth. Hopefully it'll get placed in
front of some of the movies coming in the next few weeks (maybe MiB2?)
Maybe we'll get lucky and it'll be on apple's quicktime site. (http://www.apple.com/trailers/)
I guess I'll have to wait a while longer.
Scene:
Picard: Fire photon torpedo's
Yoda: Diverts torpedo's with a wave of his paw.
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The public premier was last weekend in Tulsa at the Sci-Fi Con. I've got a 3" DVD of it that was given away at Tulsa.
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... the first time I use my TiVo to fast forward through a show so I can watch the commercials.
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Wow... the IS a use for IPIX
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"I would say that 99 per cent of what my father has written about his own life is false." - L. Ron Hubbard Jr.
"Hopefully it'll get placed in front of some of the movies coming in the next few weeks (maybe MiB2?)" According to this post, it will indeed air in front of Men in Black II. And there's already a shot-by-shot breakdown online.
Hum...
So they have the blue screen of death in the 24 century still?!!!!! Sheech.
At least they wont need a planet this time to reactivate him!
A source of harm or ruin: Uncritical trust is my nemesis.
Sounds like the Slashdot effect
Retributive justice in its execution or outcome: To follow the proposed course of action is to invite nemesis.
i.e., clicking the link at the launch time is inviting Nemesis...
An opponent that cannot be beaten or overcome.
The unconscious attitude that rests, all the same, with Slashdot readers... that they will get to see the page even though thousands of others are all trying at the same time.
One that inflicts retribution or vengeance.
It will be in Quicktime no doubt and everyone will be seeking their Wine, so maybe that should be re-distribution (changing distro?) so that they have better Quicktime support in friendly RPM format (yes I'm getting tenuous now)
Nemesis Greek Mythology. The goddess of retributive justice or vengeance.
Godesses... Rather than cite any myself (OK, I always fancied a bit of Deanna Troi actually) I invite you to comment...
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Why does CmdrTaco want to eat a cute, cuddly alien?
If a tree falls on an anonymous coward yelling 'first post' in the forest, does anybody hear?
Forgot to add that trailer screenshots are already up right... here.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again:
/. is a community, but few communities hold a single viewpont on any given issue.
First, the site isn't anti-MPAA. Many of it's users are. The site is a news and discussion forum.
Second, not all Slashdot readers are Anti-MPAA. Some don't give a rat's ass about the issue. Some, like me, realize the issues and have come to an internal compromise. Some users haven't bought a movie ticket or DVD in years. You have to realize that there are many thousands of posters, and not all have the same opinions about issues.
Just remember,
Or maybe we will be even luckier and group of
In any case the original article says:
t'nera semordnilap
"Dark Horizons is reporting that the trailer for the next Star Trek movie will premiere tonight on Entertainment Tonight and via the official website tonight at 7:30 EST."
/. mentions EST, I find it 99.999% likely that the time is actually EDT, especially given that the US is on Daylight Savings time.
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Picard: Well put, Data. That is precisely why the Federation uses the Stardate time standard.
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Wil? You there? Does your employment contract with Paramount allow you to geek out on this topic?
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We're anti-MPAA, not anti-interesting movies.
If none of us liked movies, the MPAA couldn't piss us off.
"Derp de derp."
According to the offical T3 site the T3 teaser will be playing in front of Men in Black.
Great. They've been Slashdotted. I can just see Commander Data drumming his fingers on the console waiting for the hourglass to go away.
"Derp de derp."
STIII:TSFS was highly underrated. It didn't blow.
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Can't we just have a whole pile of jpegs and flick through them by hand?
Not everything that can be measured matters; Not everything that matters can be measured.
i think what they're saying is that the trailer premiers on Entertainment tonight (whenever that is on for you)...on the east coast it's at 7:30 PM EDT, on the west coast 7:30 PM PDT...
also (and here's where the confusion is), the trailer will premier on the internet at 7:30 PM PDT...in other words, you can watch it at 7:30 (local time) on ET...or wait till 7:30 PDT to see it on the internet...obviously, they can't release it on the internet in conjunction with the 7:30 PM EDT showing on ET, because then everyone on the west coast would just download it, and that would ruin the premier on ET on the west coase...
well, anyway, that's the way i understood it from their web site...
"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true." - Homer Simpson
that's for the internet version...the ET version will be at 7:30 local time (whenever ET is on in your time zone)...
"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true." - Homer Simpson
Plot: The Ribbon comes swooping by early 21st Century San Francisco and deposits a young Wesley Crusher in the famous rainbow-striped shirt at the corner of Haight and Ashbury. The story unfolds as he battles depression, overcome that the once-hip intersection is now dominated by a huge Starbucks, serving only Earl Grey, hot, and Mint Tea, hot, with a Ben and Jerry's across the street. He retreats to a small internet cafe and spends the next twenty years working on his blog, and occasionally visiting Gracie the whale at the Monterey Bay Aquarium, which for some reason has been moved ninety miles to the City. At the age of 37, Wesley's snatched out of the oncoming path of a hurtling Suliban-driven MUNI bus by a Traveler from another time, who does some weird magic with his hands and looks despondent, and suddenly they're both in a huge City in the far-distant future, where everything is destruction and decay, and all the citizens are dead. "This wasn't supposed to happen," says the Traveler. Roll credits
Picard: Fire photon torpedo's
Fire photon torpedo's what?
Yoda: Diverts torpedo's with a wave of his paw.
I think you've confused Yoda and Dogbert.
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Everywhere I turn, I hear about a different trailer being attached to Men In Black 2. First it was The Two Towers, then Terminator 3, and now this? Whatever happened to going to the movies to see the movie??
Actually the Federation has already done a strategic analysis of the military-industrial complex of the Empire.
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Synopsis: A band of gay space gnomes, aboard the U.S.S. Fellow Ship (get it, fellow, ship, heh heh) team up with the Lucasfilm Muppets(tm) to kill the one guy on the bridge of the Enterprise which nobody knows (and hence won't miss when he dies).
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I wish I could remember the exact quote, but Tim of Spaced has some line about "death, taxes and the enevitability that the next Star Trek movie will suck." (if a true Spaced freak can help me out, it's in series one, episode 5 "Chaos" where Tim and his 'boss' are in the comic shop talking.)
No need to scrape the paint off. There are actual real nude pix of her out there.
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Indeed...I copy/pasted/adjusted this message from another post I made a few weeks back. Some people don't get that /. is a community of individuals, not one voice.
Solaris trailer: After waiting about 6 minutes to download the whole thing, in small format, I saw a few seconds of nebulous moving pictures that could have been sent as an animated GIF at a fraction of the nuisance value. Just because something CAN be done with a fancier technology, doesn't mean it OUGHTA be.
Legend has it that every even-numbered Star Trek sequel sucks.
You got that backwards, surely.
No one of sound mind could rank The Search for Spock above the much-beloved Wrath of Khan.
Or the soul-shudderingly bad The Final Frontier above... well, anything on film, Star Trek or not!?!
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It seems the Trailers are becoming more of interest than the movies. I make it a point to get to the movie on time so I don't miss the trailers. My girlfriend could not understand how I could like the "Hulk" trailer, that should next to nothing about a movie that will not be out for a year. I thought it was cool
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Is it the Odd numbered ones that suck or even. I think it the Odd. =)
For awhile there, I thought Star Trek was doing a good job in starting to portray its female characters more realistically, downplaying the "sex object" angle in favor of smart, tough female characters like Kira Nerys, Jadzia Dax, and Kathryn Janeway. Then I guess someone must have gotten scared that they were losing the 16-25 male demographic, because then we got Seven of Nine and her sprayed-on catsuit, and the "decontamination gel" shower scene on Enterprise. Oh well, win some, lose some...
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OK, it wasn't a Lucas Star Wars movie trailer, but rather a Star Trek trailer. Nevertheless the point remains
I will continue to voice my irritation at this behavior so long as the slashdot editors continue to engage in the hypocracy of denouncing the behavior of these cartels with one breath, while promoting their products shamelessly with the next.
No slight against Star Trek or Wil intended, rather an expression of distaste of a more generalized problem.
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Let's look at the evidence:
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Throw in the word "senseless".
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I think what we're really all waiting for is the (anti-)climatic conflict between Storm Troopers (who can't shoot) and red shirts (who must die).
Generations - They could have done so much between the casts and didn't
Screw that - what made Generations so bad was a plot hole big enough to fly the entire Federtion fleet through all at once.
Let's see, distress call at station, Enterprise goes to help, bad guy abucts Geordi and blows up star, getting away. Eventually, they track him down, Picard goes to planet, fails to stop him, sucked into Nexus. While in Nexus, Picard can travel to ANY point in time? Does he go back to back in orbit, knowing where to use torpedos/phasers to destroy the launch site? Does he go back to just when the star explodes, so they can head STRAIGHT to the destination planet, beating the other ship? Or, even more intelligently, does he go back to when they first arrive at the station, so they can toss the bad guy in the brig, search the station, find the torpedo set to destroy the star, and prevent the whole thing?
OF COURSE NOT. We go back to just a couple minutes ago, with an overweight, horrible actor playing a previous Enterprise captain, at a time when they still have a really tough time defeating the enemy - never mind that they could be totally aware that, should they screw up, they'd go back into the Nexus to try again, and again, and again.
Why go back to that moment? It makes absolutely no sense, unless you're deliberately trying to make stopping the bad guy as DIFFICULT as possible.
Oh, and BTW, First Contact's huge plot hole? The Borg could simply have sent the probe back in time at some other place in the galaxy, not having alerted the federation to their plans, therefore, not having had any challenge to their assimilation. But then again, adding time travel instantly makes it insanely difficult to prevent plot holes, due to the way things can work out.
I thought Insurrection was the best of the three because of the comparative lack of plot holes.
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While in Nexus, Picard can travel to ANY point in time? Does he go back to back in orbit, knowing where to use torpedos/phasers to destroy the launch site? Does he go back to just when the star explodes, so they can head STRAIGHT to the destination planet, beating the other ship? Or, even more intelligently, does he go back to when they first arrive at the station, so they can toss the bad guy in the brig, search the station, find the torpedo set to destroy the star, and prevent the whole thing?
Perhaps he was afraid going back too far would cause problems in the timeline. Also, I'm wondering if there'd be an issue with two Picards and Kirk suddenly being aboard Enterprise. Although, I suppose the Picard returning from the Nexus must replace the already-existing Picard, since Kirk and he didn't run into himself on the planet's surface.
I thought the entire concept was cheesy, though, so what am I doing trying to defend it?
Oh, and BTW, First Contact's huge plot hole? The Borg could simply have sent the probe back in time at some other place in the galaxy, not having alerted the federation to their plans...
I got the impression the Borg were just planning a full-scale assault on Earth, and the time-travel idea was hatched after they realized they were going to get blown up. Remember, Picard was supposed to be watching the neutral zone. Had he not defied Starfleet orders, the Borg cube would probably have wiped out the fleet in short order, and then begun the process of assimilating Earth.
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Oh, time travel is so hackneyed, especially in the Trekverse. But more importantly, First Contact ruined the Borg. Well, OK, "I, Hugh" began the degeneration, but First Contact was the final nail in the coffin.
The original Borg was/were the only truly alien aliens in Trek. Their ships were ungraceful (for a reason). They violated bilateral symmetry. Their motives were so alien as to be impossible to even recognize as motives. They were implacable, nigh-omnipotent, and -- most important of all -- not like some subset of humanity with a bad nose. Indeed, they were a reasonable (sort of) extrapolation of Net technology, an honest answer to a what-if question, the best element of sci fi.
What made them stand out was their communal decemtralized mind... a true unified consciousness, something emergent from the individual entities contained in the Borg net. What did First Contact do? It fell for the cliche "hive mind", took a weak metaphor (social insects) and expanded it, somehow, into a concept even weaker. A Borg Queen? Please! The true Borg would have no truck with a queen, a king, a president, or anything that makes one part more significant/important than another.
Let's say it again, class: The true Borg are decentralized and distributed. A "Borg Queen" is the exact antithesis of what the Borg were.
Arrgh. It bothers me every time I think about it. Grrr.
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Since Enterprise is on UPN tonight at 8:00 (only half-hour following the "premiere", I'ld expect to be able to catch it a few times tonight...
So, you only need to catch it on ET if you absolutely must see it @7:30 rather than @8:00 or if you are one of those unlucky few without a UPN station.
Erm... that's a quote from what savagexp wrote, not from what CmdrTaco wrote. Remember... the stuff in quotes and italics was written by the article submitter... not the Slashdot editorial staff.
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Heh. I love it when people make assumptions to the extreme.
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No I would definitely mind if it happened that way. I don't think it would, though. The cause of the SSSCA proposal was that people were trading movies. People weren't trading movies just for shits and giggles, they were doing it to acquire the movies. Hence, demand for movies because they're popular. Had the movies not been popular enough to trade, no SSSCA.
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I dunno why I wrote all that, I think you're just pulling my leg. Heh. Fun stuff.
"Derp de derp."
Of course, we'll see 2/3 of the trailer in the multitude of peek-ahead snips that ET will show before actually showing 9/10 of the whole thing at the end of their show. This freaked-up show is so full of fluff, I have to wonder if they spend any more than 5 minutes preparing the actual content.
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I have to agree with you mostly, but I can suggest a real-life computing situation where a "queen" is necessary for operation of the collective.
Windows 2000 domains.
Any flaming aside, Windows 2k has something called FSMO ("fizzmo") roles. Short for "Flexible Single Master Operation", the roles correspond to tasks that only one machine in the entire enterprise can do. This is to avoid any sort of duplication/collision of effort for certain important roles. Now, unless you actively do anything, the first box you bring up handles all the tasks (Schema Master, Domain Naming Master, PDC Emulator, RID Master, and Infrastructure Master if you're curious). Any machine can take over any or all of the roles, but there must be only one box handling a role. However, aside from the FSMO roles, all domain controllers are logically equivalent in terms of importance to the domain.
So, how does this correlate to the Borg? Well, assuming that there are a number of roles to play that are essential to the operation of the collective and that destruction of the master would cause a disruption in the collective mind until regeneration (think of a lost token in tokenring) so you'd choose a protected unit. This would be the "queen". Ideally, however, the system would be such that any unit could take over any or all of the roles quickly in case of danger.
Of course, why she'd be all slinky and with a removable head is beyond me.
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Here in the heart of East Coast USA, the Wednesday edition of ET has come and gone, and no sign of the trailer. I guess I'll just have to wait til tomorrow morning when I'm back at work with my big fat pipe....
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Right... here.
I am staying in the office waiting for the Star Trek trailer, on the excuse that
1) 7pm the carpool is lifted, and
2) it's only a "half hour" wait, and
3) office connection is about 1.8x that of the DSL at home.
i am so glad there is no "pathetic loser" mod.
My life in the land of the rising sun.
I get a 403 Forbidden when trying to get to nemesis.startrek.com (The official site). I'm sure I'm not the only one. The trailer wasn't officially up at Apple's QuickTime trailers site, but I did find it nonetheless with common sense.
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It can be found here http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/star_trek
Well, I got the full screen version, and it said that it doesn't allow saving. So... I did a get info on the movie, and lo and behold, there is an entry called source which is a URL. I typed this into wget, and it is downloading. For those who want to save it, here is the akamai URL:
a / a1a1aaa2198c627970773d80669d84574a8d80d3cb12453c02 589f25382f668c9329e0375e81787e85abb28970c7aee1d900 465d736aa1c81ec4bb91e8bf063cc3f6ed037/star_trek_ne mesis_fs.l.mov.
http://a1536.g.akamai.net/5/1536/51/979a9ce9df5cd
Enjoy. BTW, if this goes 404, just follow the procedure that I use listed above.
You see? It's like I've always said. You can get more with a kind word and a 2x4 than you can with just a kind word.
No kidding. It's easy to hate M$ because Bill's evil AND they have shitty code. The MPAA may be clueless but the guys who actually make the movies really do seem to try to do a good job, even with a franchise as worn as Star Trek. Damn them for being so very excellent every now and then!
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Well, darn it, I did, too. Since there haven't been any new TNG episodes in a while, anytime they crank out a new movie with Picard's crew, it's a Good Thing. It just wasn't as strong a movie as First Contact, IMHO, is all. There were TNG episodes I liked that weren't as strong as the strongest ones, yet they were still good episodes, just not as strong.
There were problems with STV that started way before they went to the center of the galaxy. For instance, it looked like they were trying to shove Scotty and Uhura into a relationship, and that just doesn't make any sense to me. And don't get me started on Uhura's fandancing...
All my opinion, of course.
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