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The Nokia 7650 Cell Phone w/ Integrated Camera
Unstrung writes "Nokia has just started shipping, in Europe, its first mobile phone with a digital camera onboard, unleashing on the unsuspecting continent a device with roughly the same mischief-making potential as the office photocopier - but in a package you can take to the bar on a Friday night." It's 640x480, and doesn't look clunky. In short, me want.
The hypocracy in doing this is incredible. For a site that routinely condems companies that attempt such heavy-handed tactics shows that Slashdot is almost as morally bankrupt as VA/Systems soon will be. I would expect such tactics from the Church of Scientology or a Fortune 500 company. I guess Slashdot has learned: "If you can't beat them, join them!"
To make matters extra special, Jamie updated Slashdot's Slashcode, yet didn't release details of this exploit to other sites running Slashcode. Guess its only important for Slashdot to look out for number one!
Is the imminent collapse of their parent company causing them all this stress? Or maybe its years of using that substandard open source software. Whatever the case, this is one of the slimiest things Slashdot has done since the First Troll Post Investigation.
For those wondering the code in question can be found here.
Thank you for your time,
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they already have them in japan. who would have thought?
Now that it's got a camera, and a screen, how long until it can digitally send that phone along with the voice and give you a video phone? I've been promised one for decades now.
I'm sure it would have a thousand useful applications but this with alcohol could end civilisation as we know it.
This idea was invented by Shampoo.
Has he even seen his fiance in the past 24 hours?
How many stories has he posted in that time, compared to his average daily post count?
Just curious.
Whoever stated that signature sizes should be limited to one hundred and twenty characters can just go ahead and kiss my
i have only a nokia 7160, and have not been very impressed with it. the phone is not very well built, the battery will fall off if you look at it funny, the microphone sucks.
i would much rather have a motorola, or any of the cool Japanese ones before i buy another nokia again.
Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
If you are looking for a really small camera, be sure to check the SMaL Ultra Pocket. It is the size of a credit card and 6mm thick.
You can find it as the "Fuji Eyeplate" or as the "Logitech Pocket Digital".
I've got mine and its really cool.
Fh
It probably won't be here soon, because the US doesn't really have GPRS or MMS ( MultiMedia Messaging System).
There is no "-1 offended" or "-1 you don't agree with me" mod options for a reason.
Okay, call me naive, but there might actually be uses for this phone that aren't sick and/or twisted.
I mean, how often have I wanted to describe something to someone else, but just can't seem to get the right words? Assuming this is integrated well enough, just snap a picture and send it along... it's often not worth it to dig out the digital camera, snap a shot, hook it up to the PC, grab the pic, scale it, e-mail it, wait for the other person to get it, etc, etc...
The key of course, would be wide-spread acceptance of this technology, combined with some sort of open standard so that you can avoid a "Let me send this picture... oh you have a Nokia? I have a Sprint... darn..." problem.
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"We will stop those deceitful American Bolsheviks", Ettrich said to the cheering crowd in front of the Brandenburg Gate, in no doubt referring to the GNOME project.
you know what? - i dont want.
i always look terrible in photographs etc, amd many other people feel the same way. This is really useless. Text messaging is great here in europe, but this wont be so successful.
Nice blowjob pics on that site.
THANK YOU! I love watching that kinda thing.
And thanks for no goatse too.
check it out... http://www.infosync.no/news/2002/n/2016.html
a 3rd party company already hacked it to record video off the ccd..
Thanks, that was much better than boring digital cameras.
look, this is the way all phones are going to be, due to MMS (multi media messaging) which allows you to send messages a "slide show" format, with pictures and music and text. shipping a MMS phone without a camera is just stupid, its like a car with no tires.
this is a GSM 900/1800 phone so it will only work in europe, and Nokia is VERY slow to make their GSM products use the 1900 band with NA uses.
the better alternative is the Sony Ericsson P800 wich is a world phone, and a camera and uses a newer version of the Symbian OS. Includes BlueTooth, and dang(Sony Memory Stick "Duo")
anywho, 7650=garbage P800=great
No word on how the software works, and what features are available for automatically uploading photos as you take them.
I'd like this to automatically beam photos to a server or to my mailbox, as I shoot them. Sort of like iphoto/idisk, but not requiring me to keep my photos on someone else's server. Just an easy way to batch download them later, so I don't have to carry around flash cards.
640x480 is a bummer though. This is too expensive for a "toy" camera, and too low-res to replace the Nikon digital camera I'd take on vacation.
Also with flash cards large enough to store hundreds of high-quality photos, and IP-over-cell-phone costing a zillion per KB, it's hard to see how this would ever be worth it without a revolution in cell phone pricing.
if they put it in a StarTac style flip-phone, i'm there.
WTF? how the hell is that a troll? man, lay off the fucking crack pipe already!
You'd think US vendors would wake up and smell the profits. If I could transmit small bits of data using a pocket device, and not have to pay a lot to do so, I'd use the service a lot. And most people would use it more than I would.
But instead, vendors are chasing UHF and Ham operators off the air to free up the bandwidth to do 3G networks. Which still won't provide enough spectrum to provide a video phone to everybody who wants one. Not to mention consumer resistence to buying the necessary expensive hardware. Which will go maybe 15 minutes before the battery runs down. Unless it melts first.
Oh well.
Dude... did you even click the link?
Last year Nokia originally scheduled this for a Q1 (March) release where as now it will be September before the shops see stock (6 months late!)
Why don't nokia just give a release date and stick to it?
The funny thing is the same thing happened when trying to get my 7110 when I had to wait several months after they were supposed to be available (and I was one of the first 150 in the UK to get one).
On the 7110 the then 'next big thing' WAP was the most unusable bug infested piece of crap and they sent me two new phones over the next few months before it would even start to connect reliably.
I'm dying to get one of the new 7650's but with a new OS, GUI and camera features I wonder whether as an early adopter I face receiving a irritatingly crippled piece of hardware just so nokia can be first to market.
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interesting possibilities, especially for those in long distance relationships...
I mean, how often have I wanted to describe something to someone else, but just can't seem to get the right words? Assuming this is integrated well enough, just snap a picture and send it along... it's often not worth it to dig out the digital camera, snap a shot, hook it up to the PC, grab the pic, scale it, e-mail it, wait for the other person to get it, etc, etc...
I didn't even think about that, but that about makes it very useful.
Imagine talking to some chick you've never seen before and want to know what she looks like; hey flash your phone!
But seriously, it would be really convenient, as most people already keep cell phones on them all the time. I wouldn't mind have a camera -in- the phone.
can you imagine; a walking army armed with cameras *and* the ability to deliver the picture instantaneously to the place where you don't want it most. this is scary people -- forget Big Brother Survallence (sp?) -- this is the scariest of all, you never know where ppl are looking / taking pictures;
picking your nose in the car on the highway? ha! forget it.
forgot to zip up after going to the bathroom b/c you are hung-over? watch it haunt you
smiled at the bank teller when depositing a check? wait for the divorce...
this is going to be a scary world. before you know it, *you* will be in one of thoes mock-up internet chain letter "caught on camera cheating? priceless" emails
My life in the land of the rising sun.
A review with lots of great pictures can be found here.
Corporate Espionage will never be the same
Those Upskirt Web Sites will have a new, subtle way of sneaking a photo
When you are lost and asking a friend for directions, you could simply take a picture of where you really are to help them out.
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That's what I think is cool about this phone. It's got J2ME onboard and runs it really really fast (having seen it demoed at JavaOne).
I believe this is the first mobile phone to come out which has a digital camera that doesn't require an add- on.
I've been eyeing this phone for almost a year-- no, make that I had been eyeing it for almost a year, until I realized that I'd never be able to afford it in a million years.
That said, a phone with a truly integrated digital camera is an extremely powerful concept: how often we find ourselves without a camera during crucial events, yet people tend to carry their mobile phones with them everywhere they go. In other words, with the 7650, you wouldn't have to worry about not being able to take that candid shot at least once in a while!
The first thing I asked myself after reading about putting a camera in a cellphone is "Why would people want to send out photos of their ears?"
I loved the 7650 when it first arrived at Nokia's website, but since then I acquired a Sony Cybershot and a Sony Clié. Know what? I can take pictures whenever I want, and if I need to post them, All I need to do is remove the Memory Stick from the Camera, stick it in the Clié, and dial my ISP (thanks heaven for TDMA mobile phones with data services).
;)
With a stantard TCP/IP connection, I can FTP, mail-attach or post the pictures, edit HTML files to comment the images, you name it.
Not so integrated? OK, but overall, I have much more quality and flexibility. The 7650 took to long to arrive.
Of course, when in deep geek mode, the best thing to do is start ICQ and tease your friends about the beer. People hate the "I'm at the bar, where are you?" line
[]'s Carlos Cardoso - Becoming a brazilian ProBlogger, typo by typo
Is it just me or do all these tiny cameras that would be great for taking pictures where you arent supposed all lack a flash? You almost cant tak a picture indoors without one and thats whats been keeping me from getting any of these spycams. Would it be that cost prohibitive to just add one and double the places you can take pictures? This is something a lot of people seem to overlook about these gadgets. You cant take pictures in a dark bar without a flash!
A more informative review
...picture phones are being plastered all over TV advertisements.
VodaFone are marketing a service called PXT (like txt messages, but pictures, haha). It uses the Sony Ericsson T68i mobile, but apart from that seems pretty similar.
Granted, I don't think any of these are of sufficient quality to grace the pages of National Geographic magazine anytime soon, but they do seem pretty useful for a quick "hey, look at this!". I only hope that carriers can agree on an decent interoperability protocol, and don't charge high data rates for transmitting pictures, which would really shoot this in the foot.
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I got a 7650 this afternoon from work (whee me make MMS-messages, me get nice phone :) ) and I've gotta say that this thing just rocks.
I saw the phone on a mobile communications fair a few months ago and it was slow and buggy but the final version seems to be fast and reliable, no glitches yet... just came back from the bar where I snapped a nice bunch of photos which I can later use to embarass my friends ;)
The screen is big (176x208), bright and clear, at least the same level as a good PDA. :)
The phone can hold almost a hundred pics with the default quality setting which seems adequate, I only managed to snap a bit over 40 pics this evening although I had the phone in my hand to use / show to the curious for nearly the whole evening. Btw, gotta love the polyphonic ringtones, no more crappy beep-beep sounds, the midi tunes on this baby sound really really nice! I guess I'll have to grab the starwars theme midi or something to use as a ringtone, just to hear how good it sounds compared to the oldskool-phones
On the whole, the 7650 is a really nice gadget when disregarding the hefty price tag (about 800EUR in Finland) and the weight (154g). It sure as hell kicks the SonyEricsson T68i:s ass big time in speed, image quality, usability and of course in overall coolness.
A definite must-have for any gagdet freak with enough dough.
Can't wait til Hantro publishes their MPEG-4 player/encoder for this baby.
Surveillance society here we come! Guess Mr. Brin was right after all.
Matrix style dropdown keypad...
Keep your eye on this phone ... since it runs Symbian I have seen it (in the lab, in the US) run everything from MAME to an in-house MP3 player. Definitely a cool phone. Let Nokia know that you want this phone in the US.
In Hong Kong, it is about US$320.e sc.jsp?Pr odID=DP9N7650
:-)
http://www.orangehk.com/eng/eshop/prod_d
I have a chance to play with it for a while, and this thing is cool albeit too bulky and heavy. However, I am amazed on the battery life of this phone, I could play around with the camera, talking on the phone, sending emails and MMS all day without seeing the battery indicator dropped one mark.
One thing I found interesting was when you have the Keypad slide down, set the phone to silent mode, then pretend you are talking on the phone; because of the camera's position, no one will be suspicious of you taking pictures of them!
This is actually cool (and somewhat worrisome). I did an experiment and found that one could managed to sneak into some perfect positions and took pictures of anyone without them knowing it. (And of course those are friends that won't mind me doing this experimentally and I did told them later about what I have done
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Sic? What sic?
I'll bet the feds are chomping at the bit for the terrorists to go get a few of these babies. Not only can we listen in on their calls, but now we can "see" where they are, and who is around them.
;-)
Smile for the CIA/NSA/FBI/MIB!
My cousin has had a phone with a camera that she got from Japan for at least 18 months... I wonder if a local provider can hook it up to the cellular network here... It also has a cool programmable ring tone that has a music staff and a bunch of different musical instruments... I bet that Nokia isn't a MIDI machine ;)
Here are the Full Specifications as well as a link to the official 7650 page at Nokia.
I love the trend of making devices kill batteries at an even faster rate.
Heroscape, it's like legos combined with anachronistic wargames.
Fine, they added a camera to a phone. What I want to know is, with the mumbo-jumbo of different technologies we have deployed in the US, and lots of competing wireless telcos doing different things, will this phone easily integrate with all or most of them, a few of them, or (as I fear) none at all? Perhaps a more general question would be how can a non-industry insider keep up with the basic technology used in cell phones so that I would not have even bothered to ask this question?
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
Thanks for the link. I noticed further down the page that Nokia 7650 has a built-in Sound Recorder. Is there any info on what format this records in and whether or not you can attach those files to an e-mail sent wirelessly? Could you attach both sound and pictures?
I don't know anything about J2ME, the version of Java for mobile devices that the 7650 uses, but might it be possible to hack the camera into recording video, too?
He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.
Hmm... :-(
I think I'll just wait for Sony/Ericsson to finish their P800.
Seems very promising.
Nice size, good screen and it's gui seems to work pretty well.
But, as usual when it comes to cool gadgets, it will probably be out of my pricerange.
And they *have* to release it in other colours than baby-blue. x-p *brrr*
/.Mattsson - My native language is not English, so please don't whine over linguistic errors. (That's lame anyway...)
Ok, so if I can take this camera to the bar (as suggested) and it has a camera built in, somebody PLEASE, PLEASE write BeerGoggles 1.0 -- code that will determine whether or not that beautiful gal smiling at me across the bar is still going to look good after I lose my buzz.
in Japan for quite awhile now. Why not in the US? Oh yeah, there was a slashdot article about that a few days ago. For the latest and greatest in cell phone technology go where I go. http://www.nokia.co.jp
duh.
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Unfortunately the Nokia phone only supports the two frequency bands used in Europe (800MHz and 1800MHz). In North America GSM is using the 1900MHz band, so this phone will NOT work in the US.
/Daniel
The Sony-Ericsson P800 phone is a so called tripple-band phone, supporting 800/1800/1900. This means it will work in Europe and the US with any GSM network.
Free your mind!
What are wrong with these cell phone manufactuers? I've e-mailed, snailmailed for all these feature requests to Nokia to no avail.
So, here, if any cell-phone manufactuers are listening, are my upmost feature requests for phones:
- Sync with my PC: Okay, those Nokia OS menu's aren't that bad. But, it would be really really nice if I could sync it with my PC and edit my address book, prefrences, settings, voice mail options etc.
- A better alert system: Maybe I haven't looked hard enough on my nokia phone, but I can't find away to have personal alerts. I'm really bad with times, and I don't wear a watch. Actually, I hate watches. And there are many people who use the phone instead of watches. I've been going to community college, and I can easily loose track of the time. I wanted my phone to vibrate 5 or 10 minutes before my class started so I can depart from socializing with friends to my classroom.
- Website Control: Well, this might not be for the cell-phone makers, but the service providers (Cellular, ATT etc.). It would be nice if I could check my voice mail online, or check my SMS messages (or send them!), or sign up for additional services?
.wav can't be that difficult.
Well, I probably have more. But there you go. That's three easy things they could work on instead of a "Digital Camera". God, what a collossal waste of time!Instead of clicking those little buttons with your hand while staring into a small little screen, how about dragging and dropping icons for your phone, or downloading voice tones and uploading them to your phone?
Think of how cool I will look! "How does he know he has to be in class all the time?!"
Voice mail Messages ->
Cory Doctorow was talking about the Journalism 3.0 talk at the Emerging Technologies conference sometime back, and mentioned something insanely significant:
Eventually, when a major event happens, the first imagery of it won't be from government-released photos or even freelance photographers. It'll be anyone in the area with their cell phones, sending images of the disaster/situation off to their friends. Dozens upon dozens of individual, low quality but zero-hour latency images, sent over data networks to remote archives.
That's the future of journalism -- or at least part of it.
Yours Truly,
Dan Kaminsky, CISSP
DoxPara Research
http://www.doxpara.com
This could be really handy if someone were to try to mug you. Just turn the phone on them as they chase you saying smile, you're live at the local precinct!
Or as you stand there in the shop you can say do you prefer this one or this one? I like this idea better than the inevitable bar shots... Or, Officer see how erratic he/she drives! Will it be useable in court as evidence? Practical joke (expensive) you tape a taperecorder to it and throw it off the roof of your office building...
Maybe there are some situations where it might be useful to take a pic and send it to your friends, but there are also situations where you don't want to send a picture. If the guy on the on the other end of the line knows that you could send him a picture if you wanted to, and you don't send him the pic - well, what will he think of you? If your boss calls you and you tell him you are at a customers place while you are in a bar for a drink with some friends, do you really want to send him a picture of the bar?
I'd imagine browsing the images on the phone's display would really hinder the cellphone's available battery power.
"But the cars are all flashing me, bright lights are passing me, I feel life passing me by" - Stiff Little Fingers
1) LED Flashlight - doesn't need to be terribly bright, but bright enough to be useful. On a high density cell phone battery, you'd be able to run for hours w/o running out. (My bike light, plenty bright, burns for weeks on a AA)
2) Infrared universal remote control - Push a "magic button" and you have a programmable, universal remote control. Make an easy overlay-based system so you just key in the manufacturer and model number (SMS style) and you have an instant Remote Control!
You could even base it on a DSP, and just download the codes from your phone company, rather than keep all that crap on your phone! That way it could always be up to date.
THIS WOULD BE FREAKIN' AWESOME!
-Ben
I have no problem with your religion until you decide it's reason to deprive others of the truth.
I can finally ditch my Samsung A300 and go back to a Nokia phone.. does any one know how much this phone would retail for on contract? I really like the look of it.. and to own a proper next gen phone would be cool :)
"Hey! Unless this is a nude love-in, get the hell off my property!!"
Go check their website, dude. Nokia DOES sync. They've got almost a dozen different softwares. I did it with my 7160, I do it with my 3320, and if you manage to find the right cable you can do it with all the recent models.
[]'s Carlos Cardoso - Becoming a brazilian ProBlogger, typo by typo
There is an open standard for picture/video type messaging - it's called MMS (Multimedia Messaging Service) and is supported by the 7650 and Ericsson T68i. This really only applies to the GSM world, but maybe it will extend out to CDMA etc as it is based on IETF/W3C standards such as SMTP, MIME, SMIL, etc (with a little WAP to present messages on handsets).
For more information on MMS, see http://www.nokia.com/mms/
Ok, can anyone think of a use for this? lets see:
:)
:)
- From the bar/club/party - thats just going to be sad, and i'm not trying to troll here
- Help im being mugged - Not that its much help, since the police probably don't have a nokia to see you with and the mugger will have all the more reason to run off with it when he sees how expensive it is lol
- Hey, I miss you - More like, "hey, i miss you honey... whos that guy with his arm around you!?!"
Maybe nokia should concentrate on making phones that dont crash
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You can use MMS (basically an easy to use form of email with media attachments) to send pictures to your mailbox, or anyone else's of course. The 7650 is one of the first MMS phones, but the article mentioned it had problems sending to a T68 phone - clearly the phones still have some MMS interop problems despite lots of testing by the MMS-IOP interop group.
To try something close to MMS on a Palm device, download Pixer from www.electricpocket.com - it gives a good idea of how MMS will work when it's rolled out later this year (at least in Europe).
...we're getting closer to real-time video conferencing over a cell phone (lemme count the number of Sci-Fi movies I've seen this in :)...now only if my signal didn't always suck :)
You mean like this?
But you have to able to read Japanese.
I think I would actually wait for the nokia 6610, and update to the Nokia 6510, which in itself was an update on the 8310 which I currently own (suppose I could wait for the 8410).
No camera though, but then again I would prefer to use the money saved to buy a separate digital camera.
My only complaint is that it's rather heavy and bulky. You could put it in your jeans pocket but you wouldn't have much room for anything else.
Personally, I'm not going to buy one as I like my phones small and light, I already have a Cannon Digital IXUS v for photos and my Palm Vx suits most of my needs. I'm not really in the need of something that does everything in one quite yet ...
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This Post about the Simputer article made me think.
Would a phone with picture taking capabilities be useful for emergency medicine? Maybe a team of surgeons could plan for a specific surgury while a patient is in transit. Maybe they already do this. (Fortunately I've never had to ride in an ambulance)
OK, there is the band issue. That brings up another question, I thought I had seen a US advertisement that some cell phone offering required a tripple band (or perhaps a tripple mode) phone. If we don't use 1800 mhz, what were they talking about? But even if the phone is on the right band, does that mean that the protocols used to pass these pictures from one phone to another would pass cleanly through the clular network? It seems to me (a complete outsider) that what one can build into a celular phone is greatly limited by the underlying network, unless there is a well defined low level protocol that this information can travel on top of. I'm trying to understand the basics of celular communication at a level that would allow things like this camera phone, as well as services like GM's On-Star and phones incorporating GPS devices to play well with other equipment.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
Very mischief-making device indeed.
KLAATU, BORADA, NIh*ahem*
Tripple band and tripple mode are two different things. In Europe we generally don't have multi-mode phones because the only network available is GSM. Eventually UMTS will become available, but the current downturn in the economy has put the brakes on that development.
UMTS is the new WCDMA-based 3G network in Europe, with many similarities to the Japanese 3G network (which is already operational).
In the US you have multiple networks: AMPS, D-AMPS, GSM, CDMA-2000. A tripple-mode phone probably supports AMPS, D-AMPS and CDMA-2000.
The SMS and MMS "protocols" are well specified, making it possible to pass data between different handsets. Both SMS and MMS were developed for GSM networks as far as I know. I don't know if they are available in other networks, and if they can cross network boundaries.
Free your mind!
Daniel is on the money, with the exception that the UMTS breaks are on. =)
I'm a SW development manager at a very large data/telecom equipment provider (think top 5) and the UMTS market is going on hot and heavy for those vendors that are still in the wireless market. In fact it is one of the only areas that is experiencing some internal expansion given the current status of the sector overall.
To answer some of your questions, there are well defined sets of standards (typically ITU-T for Europe) for the underlying protocols between the mobile, the radio, and the core networks which eventually connect to a PSTN. Vendors strive to both define and comply to these standards. In a multivendor network there are seemingly endless interoperability tests that occur prior to bringing the network online. Once the network becomes available, the operator will typically push a preferred selection of mobiles that have been proven to work in their network.
If you're interested in some of the details, I'd suggest browsing around the ITU-T website. They publish the standards that outline GSM, GPRS and UMTS technologies. In particular the H-series covers Audio visual and Multimedia systems, unfortunately the standards cost $$$.
Check it out here: http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/
In the old days, when you had a breaking news event, you'd have a rider on a motorbike waiting at the venue, once the pixman has the pictures taken of the said event, he hand it over to the rider where he'd rush it back to HQ and the photolab would have it out intime for the evening edition..
Now, with digital cameras, photos are taken, uploaded into a laptop, photoshopped by the pixman and Telnet-ed via cell networks into a pix server at HQ.
Now i see how we can just take teh pix and skop the laptop alltogather.
Sometimes I wish I was a plumber, then I'd know how to deal with other people's shit.
Well I agree with you, partly...
The problem with both these phones is that they are 1st generation camphones, which means they are just to get the markets ready for these sort of products. Both of them are big and heavy. Both of them have crappy plastic lens in the camera (corners of the picture are distorted and out of focus. So as for myself, you wont find me carrying one around...
As for differences between these two? Well the p800 is closer to a PDA, but still short of real PDA. While 7650 is closer to a phone, but still too big. They BOTH have Bluetooth, while only p800 has Memory Stick slot (although Sony's Memory Stick pricing s*cks big time!)
And as for sending these MMS messages? As long as the price of GPRS is at rip-off x Euro / MB rate, I see no future for it. Gimme a flat rate GPRS, and I'll reconsider...
If all else fails, pull the plug and get out...
The Life is out there...
This is distinctly different from old cameras. Film and digital cameras typically store their pictures on local storage media. Consider that you are witnessing police/criminal/etc. brutality, and manage to snap a picture. On a conventional camera, you would most probably have to give up the film/memory card at gunpoint. If you have a camera phone, the pics are already on a remote server, possibly on another continent.
Obviously, after camera phones become more commonplace, you will be barred from taking phones to places where there might be something suspicious going on, either by participants or authorities (countries with a bad human rights record, demonstrations, bars and restaurants, parties, etc.)
Currently the problem is that some users tend not to put their phone in a silent mode even when attending a wedding or a classical concert. Later on phone users have also to be educated on where they're allowed to take photos.
The difference in this is that a ringing phone in a concert just makes you look stupid. A camera phone in certain situations may actually kill you.