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Campzone 2: The Return

rutger21 writes: "CampZone 2 is a large outdoor computer-event in the Netherlands. A field will be transformed into a high-tech campground with full service, including a 100Mbit network and Internet access for everyone. During 11 days, CampZone will be the home for up to 1200 computer enthusiasts from around the world. The main focus of the event is multiplayer gaming, but there will also be other activities, such as paintball." Are there any recurring high-tech temporary communities on this scale in North America? The nearest thing I can think of is Burning Man, and the comparison isn't all that close, especially when it comes to bandwidth.

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  1. Are Apple's OS X updates poisoned? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    Are Apple's OS X updates poisoned?

    OSX Runs on BSD: This is very important information for the Linux community, because it reveals another very serious security problem in the BSD kernel.

    According to the BugTraq mailing list, a hacker named Russell Harding has posted full instructions online for how to fool Apple's SoftwareUpdate feature to allowing a hacker to install a backdoor on any Mac running OS X. A security mailing list has alerted Apple Computer OS X users to a program that could let a hacker piggyback malicious code on downloads from the company's SoftwareUpdate service.

    The exploit takes advantage of SoftwareUpdate, Apple's software updating mechanism in OS X, which checks weekly for new updates from the company. According to Harding, who claims to have discovered the exploit, the feature downloads updates over the Web with no authentication and installs them on a system. So far, there are no patches available for this problem.

    "Apple takes all security notifications seriously and is actively investigating this report," a company representative said.

    Harding stressed that the exploit is a simple one if using several well-known techniques, including domain-name service (DNS) spoofing and DNS cache poisoning.

    DNS spoofing is an attack where an individual seeks out a numerical IP (Internet Protocol) address (for example, 1.2.3.4) corresponding to a specific Internet address (for example, www.cnet.com), but an attacker's computer intercepts the request. The attacker then sends back a false IP address that corresponds to a hostile server.

    DNS cache poisoning has similar results, but instead of intercepting a request for an IP address, the attacker uses a variety of techniques to replace the valid address in an official DNS server with an address pointing to the attacker's computer.

    When SoftwareUpdate runs normally, a person's computer connects via HTTP to an Apple.com page and sends a simple request for an XML document containing the latest inventory of OS X software. The Apple.com site returns the document, which the person's computer then cross-checks against what it has installed.

    After the check, OS X sends a list of software that needs to be updated to another page on Apple.com. If an update for the software is available, the SoftwareUpdate server responds with the location of the software, its size, and a brief description. If not, the server sends a blank page with the information, "No Updates."

    On his Web site, Harding provides two programs that he says have been customized for carrying such an attack. One program listens for DNS queries for updates, and when it receives them replies with spoofed packets rerouting them to the attacker's computer.

    The second program, which is downloaded onto a victim's Mac and masquerades as a security update, contains a copy of the encrypted communications program, Secure Shell.

    Automatic updates of software--particularly operating system software--is a growing trend. Several Linux ( news - web sites) companies offer this feature for their distributions of the open-source operating system, and Microsoft recently launched a similar service called Microsoft Software Update Services.

    ZDNet U.K.'s Matt Loney reported from London. News.com's Robert Lemos contributed to this report.

    Troll 195 of 196 from the annals of the Troll Library .

    1. Re:Are Apple's OS X updates poisoned? by L.Torvalds · · Score: -1

      My eMac died 2 days after I got it. So fuck Mac, and fuck AC first posts.

    2. Re:Are Apple's OS X updates poisoned? by Fecal+Troll+Matter · · Score: -1

      Fuck the stupid nigger at McDonald's that took 15 minutes to correctly understand '2 chocolate, 4 oatmeal'(cookies).
      I think they take those fucking cookies right out of an Entemann's box and slap into a McD's baggie, anyway.

  2. In. by N8Magic · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    First.

    Before everyone.

    1. Re:In. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Just missed it! BAH!

  3. ATTENTION ALL NEGROES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Please leave the country immediately, you are no longer welcome here. Please take the beaners and chinks with you.

    Thank you.

    [ and now, the ebonics version ]

    Yall bes be steppin les you wan ussa poppa cap in yo black ass. Get up on out ahere and bring dem messicans and china mans wichall.

    Word.

    1. Re:ATTENTION ALL NEGROES by SkullRape · · Score: -1

      You forgot to include ugly chicks in that.

    2. Re:ATTENTION ALL NEGROES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
      The american dream: watching all the niggers swimming back to Africa with a Jew under each arm!

      Fuck you and your censorship!
      Fuck your 20 second rule!
      Fuck your 2 post a day
      Just plain fuck you!

    3. Re:ATTENTION ALL NEGROES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      I am the original author of that, and it gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling seeing one of my old trolls reposted.

      Thanks bunches, mister AC. You've made my day.

      --
      SweetAndSourJesus

    4. Re:ATTENTION ALL NEGROES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Lou: You know I went to the McDonald's in Shelbyville on friday night.

      Wiggum: The McWhat?

      Lou: McDonald's restaurant. I never heard of it, either, but they have over two thousand locations in this state alone.

      Eddie: Must've sprung up overnight.

      Lou: You know the funniest thing, though? It's the little differences.

      Wiggum: Example?

      Lou: Well, at McDonad's you can buy a Krusty Burger with Cheese, right, but they don't call it a Krusty Burger with Cheese.

      Wiggum: Get out! Well, what do they call it?

      Lou: A Quarter Pounder with Cheese.

      Wiggum: Quarter Pounder with Cheese? Well, I can picture the cheese, but, uh, do they have Krusty Partially Gelatinated Non-Dairy Gum Based Beverages?

      Lou: Mmm hmm, they call em shakes.

      Eddie: Hmph, shakes. You don't know what you're getting.

      Wiggum: Well, I know what I'm getting. Some donuts. Help me out of the booth, boys.

      --
      another fine AC post from SweetAndSourJesus

    5. Re:ATTENTION ALL NEGROES by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Hey, man. This one was for you!

      I'm just passing along the message.

  4. nothing says the great outdoors by papasui · · Score: 3, Funny

    Like 1200 geeks with 3rd degree sunburns and sunglasses to protect them from the glare of their monitor.

    1. Re:nothing says the great outdoors by Sokie · · Score: 2

      How about 1200 geeks with no ready, immediate access to showers?

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      ------
      Where are the slash-groupies? I distinctly remember being promised slash-groupies!
    2. Re:nothing says the great outdoors by discstickers · · Score: 2

      Even if they were there, would they use them?

      --
      I have a shitty sig!
    3. Re:nothing says the great outdoors by realgone · · Score: 2

      ...like the smell of marshmallows roasting over a Mac PowerBook 5300.

    4. Re:nothing says the great outdoors by H3XA · · Score: 1

      no showers is normal..... but a high chance of a sun tan? Surely that would be bag for their "nerd" image.

      Make a small fortune selling zinc cream and other high strenght sun preotection lotions to protect that white pasty skin....

      - HeXa

    5. Re:nothing says the great outdoors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sunburns? In the Netherlands?

      It has been raining here almost continuously since the middle of june. I'd be more worried about my equipment being washed away in a freak flood if I went to Campzone then getting a sunburn.

      Actually that is not true. The thing the people there _should_ worry about is massive police interest in what is guaranteed to be a hotspot for illegal copying.

    6. Re:nothing says the great outdoors by Qrlx · · Score: 2

      If you try to take your powerbook 5300 on the plane, you are no better than that shoe-bomber guy

    7. Re:nothing says the great outdoors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apparently they're 1200 modem gamers since anyone with broadband would just PLAY A FSCKING INTERNET GAME!!! Geez people, ever hear of the Internet? There's no reason to go to some shitty smelly campsite to play LAN games with a bunch of shitty smelly nerds. That's what the Internet is for. You can hide behind your computer and play thousands of miles away where you can't smell them.

    8. Re:nothing says the great outdoors by Koos · · Score: 2
      Sunburns?

      We already had a week of sun this year. That was the summer. Today the weather forecast is that it will rain less then yesterday.

      HIP'97 had a week of good weather. Hal2001 had rain.

    9. Re:nothing says the great outdoors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      we are talking The Netherlands here, I expect there to be almost no sun or the very minimal, but don't geeks use SPF 100 suncream anyway (for the nice pale colour)

  5. I attended something like this a while ago by Emad+el-Haraty · · Score: -1
    With my boyfriend. Well, not quite on as large a scale, but right after the Gay Pride parade happenings in San Francisco a few years ago, he showed me this really cool bar called Chaps. So all these hot men were there, dressed up in leather cowboy garb, and there were also a couple of computers running Linux in the corner.

    We played Quake III for hours! It was a blast. My boyfriend, Sean, even showed me how what Nethack was all about. How kewl! Anyway, I had a great time and it was a kewl LAN party ^_^. I hope this is more of the same going on in the Netherlands.

    1. Re:I attended something like this a while ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Right. Further proof that Linux is gay.

    2. Re:I attended something like this a while ago by angelkey · · Score: 0

      That's not a LAN party, that's a MAN party. I want no part of your male area network.

      --
      "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell, 1984
  6. so what if.... by sheol · · Score: 1

    what happens if it rains? will there be tents? some sci-fi rain-repelling force field?

    1. Re:so what if.... by Lord_Slepnir · · Score: 3, Informative
      From the FAQ:

      Q: Is it a problem when it raines?

      A: No, fortunally not. Ofcourse you'll have to make sure your tent is waterproof. Should a problem occur with your tent -like an unexpected leak- please report this to the Field Admin. They can try to keep you tent dry with plastic and possibly help you with moving your equipment to another location. Last year we had a few showers and a thunderstorm, but thanks to our emergencyplans this did not lead to any problems.

    2. Re:so what if.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you never heard of dikes? ;-)

  7. Sorry, couldn't resist... by Nailer · · Score: 3, Funny

    Fucking campers :)

    1. Re:Sorry, couldn't resist... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Considering the geeky audience, I don't think that they are "fucking" at all.

  8. Slashdot is dying. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll



    Friends, *nix'ers, countrymen, lend me your ears;
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    The evil that sites do lives after them;
    The good is oft interred with their code;
    So let it be with Slashdot. The noble Taco
    Hath told you Slashdot was ambitious:
    If it were so, it was a grievous fault,
    And grievously hath Slashdot answer'd it.
    Here, under leave of Taco and the rest -
    For Taco is an honourable man;
    So are they all, all honourable men -
    Come I to speak in Slashdot's funeral.
    It was my friend, faithful and just to me:
    But Taco says it was ambitious;
    And Taco is an honourable man.
    It hath brought many lusers home to Linux
    Whose egos did the general karmas fill:
    Did this in Slashdot seem ambitious?
    When that the poor have cried, Slashdot hath wept:
    Ambition should be made of sterner stuff:
    Yet Taco says he was ambitious;
    And Taco is an honourable man.

  9. I am your father by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Yeah you reading this bitch. Punk ass bitch I'm your father like whoa. Please supply the following:
    One (1) stop sign
    Thirteen (13) lbs. of important medical information.
    One (1) example of white trash fun on the farm.
    You shall then receive enlightenment in the form of my foot up your ass. OH yeah mod me down campzone 2 sucks linux sucks YOU SUCK

  10. Massive LAN games in Australia by dezwart · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Considering that multiplayer gaming competitions with a cash prize have started to take off here in Australia, it's about time a national computer gaming convention happened.

    All we need is a big cheap warehouse in one of our main cities. Pity our population isn't big enough to support something like this.

    Hell, our telecommunications and public transport infrastructure is barely adequate for the meagre population we have. But I digress.

    Perhaps having some sort of extreme gaming event would get people from overseas interested.

    We host enough international sporting events, why not have an international multiplayer gaming event here?

    1. Re:Massive LAN games in Australia by jquirke · · Score: 2

      Actually I think it would be feasible in Melbourne or Sydney - their populations are reasonable on an International scale...

      The broadband telecommunications infrastructure in urban Melbourne/Sydney is actually quite good - it's just that it has a lack of accessibility to the average customer.

      The Melbourne Exhibition Centre has successfully hosted large geek events before - there is a 3500 person LAN planned for next year apparently. So I disagree with your comments about population and transport and to a certain extent infrastructure.

      --JQuirke

    2. Re:Massive LAN games in Australia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pity our population isn't big enough to support something like this.

      Australia has 20,000,000 inhabitants. That's more than the 16,000,000 people in the Netherlands. Find another excuse ;-)

      why not have an international multiplayer gaming event here?

      Maybe because it is so bloody far away from everything else?

    3. Re:Massive LAN games in Australia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check out valhalla.net.au ~600 people at the last lan

  11. Dear Persian man by BlackTriangle · · Score: -1

    How did you get a name like Emad el-Haraty? Doesn't sound very Iranian to me.

  12. You're from "MustFuq" by BlackTriangle · · Score: -1

    And you're an Arab from Aryan Iran . Right.

  13. +5+5 INFORMATIVE LINUX IS GAY! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Please see subject line. Oh I wish I lived in the land of dixie where the watermelon is freeeeee
    Oh i wish I had a giant toaster floating in the seaaaaaaaaa
    Oh i wish that there was no more, filthy stinking hippy whores
    Oh give me the pizza so I can throw it like the throwing stars of ninja lore right through the head of a kitten have you seen my kittens they are missing i think i ate one of them but the other 12 are gone where did they go? Please help me out here people. I think I placed one in the eblafra sir. Drop to the times now Hi how are u

  14. Burning Man? I think not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is no net access at Burning Man. Maybe individuals have set up something, but since Black Rock City is out of range of any cell phone towers, it would be difficult. And if anyone has set such a thing up, it has not been made available to others.

    There was something last year called PlayaNet, which was sort of an intranet between several sites in the city. But it was restricted to inside of Black Rock City only.

    So, no, Burning Man may have temporary community, and there may be some techie types there, but there is no connection to the web at large. OTOH, maybe that's the way it should be.

  15. MOD ME DOWN BITCHES & YOU DIE NOW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The moderation system is now sure to place me at +5 Informative. I have foreseen it. Now, since you are my bitches, you must do one of two things. Mod me up even higher to my rightful place as supreme spiritual leader of slashdot or there will be popped tarts withdrawn from every major grocery outlet in the area. You know what is the truth about flowers? They are out to take away your soul. Oomgrytiua peika rablando eekihidi. Word...

  16. What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    What the hell are you talking about? His user bio clearly says that he's from Iraq. Can't you find something better to do than committing hate crimes against Emad? Your homophobia isn't appreciated here.

  17. smelly geeks by avandesande · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    finally those geeks will have an excuse for being smelly and unwashed...

    --
    love is just extroverted narcissism
    1. Re:smelly geeks by Cardhore · · Score: 3, Funny

      At my college, all computer science labs have recently installed safety showers, like in the chem labs.

    2. Re:smelly geeks by H3XA · · Score: 1

      at first I was worried about where they would take a dump.... then I rembered "adult diapers"

      Is there a Pizza Hut close by?

      - HeXa

  18. Low Tech Campouts by Greg+Lindahl · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't know about high tech campouts, but there certainly are large LOW tech campouts, like the Pennsic War: 10,000+ people camping a bit north of Pittsburgh, reacreating the fun parts of the Middle Ages. Porta-potties, tents, Renaissance dance every night...

    1. Re:Low Tech Campouts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but I hear there's some/one/whatnot people there who want to bring in computers and a link to the 'net so people can e-mail and whatnot after a hard day of whacking each other with sticks. I remember reading of the difficulties of setting up such an endeavor somewhere (Sadly, I can't recall where. :/ Go go gadget google!).. Quite interesting, actually. :)

    2. Re:Low Tech Campouts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And only two weeks to go before I head out for land grab...

    3. Re:Low Tech Campouts by isorox · · Score: 1

      Go go gadget google

      I like that, thanks :)

    4. Re:Low Tech Campouts by AceCaseOR · · Score: 1

      I'm an SCA Member (sort of), and considering some of the people who are anal retentive when it comes to historical accuracy at the campsite, I could see some beating with sticks going on off the field. ^_^

      --
      Zagreus sits inside your head, Zagreus lives among the dead, Zagreus sees you in your bed and eats you in your sleep.
  19. More like... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    More like 1200 geeks cruushing teh childrn. How come doenst' any one hear thinked fo the childrn? Y r u sooo mene to tem all u teh thia mooshia.

    Ice cream does not have bones. It is futile, hairy pencil.

  20. DEAR MODERATORS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    pls eet fuk thx.

    WOW has this site gone to total shit in an amazing hurry. Fuckin' fascists.

    1. Re:DEAR MODERATORS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      To Whom It May Concern:
      I am intrigued by your ideas and wish to subscribe to your newsletter. I must however point out that you need to expand a little more to get more readership levels in this part of the world. Also, I think your views of the Slashdot are spot-on and this site will cease to exist rather soon.
      Cheers,
      Corky Pissant (it's french)

  21. oh my god by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    ...imagine a beowulf cluster of ugly white campers.. shit.

  22. Actually, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    His homophobia is obviously appreciated here. Have you ever even read any of the posts on this site? You have got to be some kind of turd burglar desperately in need of a good cockpunching.

    1. Re:Actually, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Hetrophobe Alert!

    2. Re:Actually, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Wow you are a mutant. What the hell is wrong with you? We'd all be better off if you ingested large quantities of pasgettios sir boss sir man.

    3. Re:Actually, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Someone reply to this, and someone reply to the reply, until this page is made wider due to replies being indented so much. Thank you.

    4. Re:Actually, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Reply to me.

    5. Re:Actually, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1

      Reply to me. Thanks.

    6. Re:Actually, by Luke-Jr · · Score: 0

      Why?

      --
      Luke-Jr
    7. Re:Actually, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      yes sir, i'll be glad too! too bad slashcode prevents that. Oh well, i'll play along.

    8. Re:Actually, by ghitz9 · · Score: 0

      OK I will too!

    9. Re:Actually, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everyone else is doing it.

    10. Re:Actually, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BTW the original post is an ingenious troll ;) .. wakey-wakey ..

  23. millionmanlan by oliveloaf · · Score: 1, Informative

    There was an event a month or two ago called millionmanlan here in louisville and in los angeles, something like 2500 gamers in both locations. lanwar.org has info about it.

  24. ATTENTION NERDS ATTENDING THIS FESTIVAL AND OTHERS by Cardhore · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Don't drink Mountiain Dew! Mountain Dew is a highly addictive substance that has adverse health consequences. Mountain Dew is designed to be addicting and dehydrating. Mountain Dew's ingredients include caffeine, a highly addictive substance which also inhibits development, and sodium, which causes the drinker to become thirstier proportionally to the amount of soda consumed. Additionally, the beverage is lubracated so that it can be consumed more rapidly, and, recently, the can's aperture has been enlarged for the same reason (wide mouth can). Someone should start a Target Market for big soda!

    Note: this is not offtopic, troll, flamebait. This is important information and certainly is "news for nerds" and even "stuff that matters".

  25. Been to Canada Much? by quantumparadox · · Score: 1

    Last weeks 6th Fragapalooza was attended by around 1000 (1100 signed up and I'm not sure the actual number). Of course its all indoors in a nice air-conditioned conference center, but it used to be held in an aircraft hanger. Intel provided a massive switched backbone that was awesome. Its held in Canada so I can see why so many people know nothing about it.

    Also next month around 1000 people are signed up to attend Fragmart in Richmond B.C. Canada.

    1. Re: Been to Canada Much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

      When I want to see dumb monkeys, I go to the zoo.

    2. Re: Been to Canada Much? by CodeMunch · · Score: 1
      nice air-conditioned conference center

      HEhehehe you musn't have been there. It was 30C inside the building for 3 of the 4 days and 36C outside. There were a few systems having a bit o' heating problems (the silicon and pink fleshy ones too). BUT it was a shit-load-o'-fun.

    3. Re: Been to Canada Much? by WEFUNK · · Score: 2

      Also, for those living in the other side of Canada and the Northeastern US, there's the 300 person Smackdown LAN party held each year (March) in London, Ontario (about halfway between Toronto and Detroit and a few hours from Buffalo). Just hope the WWE doesn't take out any of their WWF frustration out on their familiar sounding name.

      --
      My next sig will be ready soon, but friends can beat the rush!
    4. Re: Been to Canada Much? by BagOBones · · Score: 1

      Yep I was there this year and had a great time.. There was A/C but I don't think it could keep up with the unusually high out side temp, the 1000 CPUs and 1000 Geeks emitting heat and it may have been turned off at some time do the the HUGE power drain of this years record turn out.

      I'll be back next year.. It was way too fun. And the prizes are kick ass too.

      --
      EA David Gardner -"... but the consumers have proven that actually what they want is fun."
  26. Buy some Bandwidth by batboy78 · · Score: 1

    Since Worldcom is going under now is the time to buy some backbone access, then hold the worlds largest multiplayer game tournament. Can't wait for a public aution, I could use a couple of server cabinets.

    1. Re:Buy some Bandwidth by __aawavt7683 · · Score: 1

      Kinda off-topic, but as for company auctions from things like the .com bust, how does one get items from such things? I googled, came across things like the excite@home.. apparently their auction will be at corporate headquarters, likely a long way from me, so things like that are out.. do any auction things online? is there a web list someplace of such going out of business auctions or anything? what're people's experiences with things like price, quality, and .. "newness" of computers that can be gained from such auctions? :-)

      -DrkShadow

    2. Re:Buy some Bandwidth by BagOBones · · Score: 1

      At public tech auctions I have found that Joe looser will pay anything for something he thinks is a deal, so expect someone to bid WAY to high on things like desktops and printers... But the REAL equipment, such as LARGE UPS units and switches will ususaly only be bid on by the techs.. who know what its worth and off then are as cheep as you are, so a few deals can be had.

      --
      EA David Gardner -"... but the consumers have proven that actually what they want is fun."
    3. Re:Buy some Bandwidth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DoveBid has done a number of dead .com auctions, and they webcast them. I've never used them, so I don't know if they are worth the effort, but I have browsed their equiptment and they have a bunch of stuff.

  27. Women & Open-Source Software by Bitter+Old+Man · · Score: -1

    I feel it is my duty to point out an interesting parallel I've found between two second-class societal entities: Women and open-source software. At first glance, one might think of the two as being not at all likely to be associated with each other, but a more thorough understanding demands a closer look.

    Women have, throughout almost the entire length of history, been treated as second-class citizens. This is only fitting, as their physical and mental capabilties are both substantially below those of their male counterparts. Women are like open-source software hippies: They accomplish nothing and then complain about the second-class treatment they receive. Their achievements are limited, unremarkable, and in almost every instance, able to be completely surpassed by those of their male counterparts.

    Take sports, for example: Why are there no women in the American NFL, NBA, NHL, or MLB? Feminists will shout loudly that it's because they're not allowed, but this is not true; the real reason is that there are no women skilled enough to compete against the highly competitive and infinitely more capable men. Even the strongest, bulkiest woman will crumple under the weight of a 350-pound linebacker colossus.

    This brings me to another important observation: Women produce much less testosterone than men, and so, without artificial supplements, are doomed to weakness and incapability. They have barely any muscle to speak of; most women over 175 pounds are simply fat, whereas men are perfectly capable of achieving in excess of 250 pounds of pure, woman-crushing muscle.

    Take scientific progress: Who invented the television? The automobile? The airplane? The light bulb? The steam engine? The automatic penis enlarger? Atomic energy? The Periodic Table of the Elements? Penicillin? Men, all men. What have women accomplished? Nothing. Nada.

    Take intelligence. The great geniuses in history: Einstein. Picasso. Heisenberg. DaVinci. Hitler. Shakespeare. Fermat. Himmler. All men. Can you name even ONE female genius? Of course you can't, because none exist; there is no such thing as a female who doesn't live by riding the coattails of her smarter and more capable male counterpart.

    Take the penis: Who has the penis? The man does, not the woman. The woman has a mere hole where the penis should be. No wonder women feel so subordinate and inferior: All the whining and excuses of the Feminist Left is merely a result of an extended case of penis envy.

    But enough about women. How could all the evidence I've demonstrated possibly tie into the open-source software movement? A valid question!

    The OSS proponent's incessant superiority complex, even when deep-down, he knows he is in last place, smacks of similarity with the woman's complaints of being in second place even when she knows she is nothing but an inferior, penis-lacking clone of her male counterpart.

    Ever wonder why geeks hate Microsoft so much? It's because they're jealous; they know they can never even dream of accomplishing what Microsoft has. Microsoft is the OSS movement's Emmanuel Goldstein - the scapegoat for all that is wrong with OSS.

    Ever wonder why women hate men so much? Now you understand.

    I'm quite aware that the glimpse I've presented at how open-source software's never-ending and always-failing attempt to gain respect in the world is so similar to women's similar attempts to make up for their missing Y chromosome will be upsetting to many readers, but reality is not always cozy. Although women, like open-source software projects, are dramatically inferior, we men can comfort them by looking down on them with pity, holding doors for them (as they are too weak to do it themselves), and letting them suck on our penises, because they do want our cum, even when they say they don't.

    Regards,

    Bitter Old Man, Ph. D.

  28. Paintball? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Goodness, I sure hope that the paintball is live, and not some Quake mod, heh.

    1. Re:Paintball? by H3XA · · Score: 1

      I can imagine that now.... geeks dropping dead from the physical stress on their bodies from excercise - hope the paramedics are on standby.

      and the ones that do live will be yelling "I fragged you" or "Where is the Quad damage?" or "Map change!!!" or "farking aimbot cheater!!!"......

      - HeXa

    2. Re:Paintball? by Innomi · · Score: 1

      paintball IS a geeks game. Even when you're out of shape, and you play, it doesnt affect you untill the next day, when walking is a struggle. :P

  29. Tech at Music Events: Bonnaroo by DaedalusLogic · · Score: 2

    I went to Bonnaroo music festival back in late June and kept thinking how cool would it be to hook up a little wireless community with all the attendees. Would be a great way to swap audio with show tapers. There were dozens of bands there so no one group could cover them all. It was out in the middle of the country so getting a connection to the larger net would be tough. The other thing was the radio traffic through the weekend was ridiculous. 75,000 people and only one cellular tower... and all the little FRS radios were in use, all channels and privacy codes possible. The "tech" companies there included only Gateway and XBox... but I think the development of a network community at large scale festivals could be a really nice way to enhance the experience. Also the sponsorship of the infrastructure needed would be another way to help fund the event. Anyone have any thoughts on bringing tech to more traditional gatherings?

    1. Re:Tech at Music Events: Bonnaroo by dsb3 · · Score: 2

      Uhhhhhh. Wireless. Would that be shared 11mbps across the festival? Swap audio? yeah, right.

      --

      Slashdot? Oh, I just read it for the articles.
  30. Repeat Story! by Glint · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    This has been posted before at about the same time last year!

    Don't the /. editors ever check for these sort of things?

    1. Re:Repeat Story! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since its the 6th one I bet they did it the year before and the year before that and the year before that and the year before that and the year before that. Pity they dont tell us about them BEFORE they happen though.

  31. Quit Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    For help in quiting, check out
    Quit Slashdot.

  32. Where does it say their is paintball? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    From the rules page, it says that paintball guns are specifically NOT allowed.

    Maybe if I bitch and moan about /. editors not looking past the first page of links that are submitted I'll get modded up.

    1. Re:Where does it say their is paintball? by Ly0n · · Score: 1

      it says on the site. (probably only on the dutch pages... HE, its a dutch event :) ) btw, it i not hosted on the same terrain, but at a nearby specialised Paintball company/store/whatever

  33. bad mix... by skydude_20 · · Score: 2, Funny

    the main focus of the event is multiplayer gaming, but there will also be other activities, such as paintball

    mixing huge lan parties with paintball... just imagine after slaughtering people in Quake they all come after you and unload with paintballs, ooo the pain... then again, great way to deal with the cheaters...

    --
    Jesus saves souls and redeems them for valuable cash prizes
  34. there's nothing like a gathering of geeks. by herrd0kt0r · · Score: 2, Funny

    nothin like a bunch of smart people to advance change. so much could be accomplished from needs that would be brought about by such a large outdoor gathering of socially and unsanitary people! for example:

    - quick and easy means of networking a large number of computers
    - streamlined troubleshooting scripts for large-scale multiplayer gaming problems
    - novel ways of conserving toilet paper, including the world's first overlocked toilet, which flushes with 25GPF force effectively enabling the hidden bidet feature, thus doing away with the need for toilet paper
    - world's first toilet-cooled CPU
    - overclocked sticks of deodorant which push out 50ccs of gel deodorant with a single twist
    - overclocked deodorant spray designed to expel the contents of the entire can with a single press of the button, leading to the formation of a large, flammable cloud and subsequent auto-ignition of said cloud from CPU heat, which incinerates odorants and sterilizes users' armpits
    - finally, the invention of new jackoff techniques designed for speed and efficiency. a truly necessary technique for a world full of gov't surveillance and prying eyes.

    GO GEEKS!
    GO FORTH AND BRING CHANGE UNTO THE WORLD!

  35. Odd. by saintlupus · · Score: 1

    Are there any recurring high-tech temporary communities on this scale in North America?

    I can't think of any. Then again, when I'm out camping or hiking, I want to get the hell _away_ from the computers I spend all my working time with. It's tough to appreciate being outdoors when your eyes are still focused on the panel of your laptop.

    --saint

    1. Re:Odd. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn straight. I just don't understand the point of an outdoors gathering, where the main aim is to focus on a 13" screen for hours at a time.

      I reckon they should confiscate all PCs on entry, and force 'em to go rock climing or rafting or something.

  36. Linux Conspiracy by poopbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    It has come to my attention that the entire Linux community is a hotbed of so called 'alternative sexuality,' which includes anything from hedonistic orgies to homosexuality to pedophilia.

    What better way of demonstrating this than by looking at the hidden messages contained within the names of some of Linux's most outspoken advocates:
    • Linus Torvalds is an anagram of slit anus or VD 'L,' clearly referring to himself by the first initial.
    • Richard M. Stallman, spokespervert for the Gaysex's Not Unusual 'movement' is an anagram of mans cram thrill ad.
    • Alan Cox is barely an anagram of anal cox which is just so filthy and unchristian it unnerves me.


    I'm sure that Eric S. Raymond, composer of the satanic homosexual propaganda diatribe The Cathedral and the Bizarre, is probably an anagram of something queer, but we don't need to look that far as we know he's always shoving a gun up some poor little boy's rectum. Update: Eric S. Raymond is actually an anagram for secondary rim and cord in my arse. It just goes to show you that he is indeed queer.

    Update the Second: It is also documented that Evil Sicko Gaymond is responsible for a nauseating piece of code called Fetchmail, which is obviously sinister sodomite slang for 'Felch Male' -- a disgusting practise. For those not in the know, 'felching' is the act performed by two perverts wherein one sucks their own post-coital ejaculate out of the other's rectum. In fact, it appears that the dirty Linux faggots set out to undermine the good Republican institution of e-mail, turning it into 'e-male.'

    As far as Richard 'Master' Stallman goes, that filthy fudge-packer was actually quoted on leftist commie propaganda site Salon.com as saying the following: 'I've been resistant to the pressure to conform in any circumstance,' he says. 'It's about being able to question conventional wisdom,' he asserts. 'I believe in love, but not monogamy,' he says plainly.

    And this isn't a made up troll bullshit either! He actually stated this tripe, which makes it obvious that he is trying to politely say that he's a flaming homo slut!

    Speaking about 'flaming,' who better to point out as a filthy chutney ferret than Slashdot's very own self-confessed pederast Jon Katz. Although an obvious deviant anagram cannot be found from his name, he has already confessed, nay boasted of the homosexual perversion of corrupting the innocence of young children. To quote from the article linked:

    'I've got a rare kidney disease,' I told her. 'I have to go to the bathroom a lot. You can come with me if you want, but it takes a while. Is that okay with you? Do you want a note from my doctor?'

    Is this why you were touching your penis in the cinema, Jon? And letting the other boys touch it too?

    We should also point out that Jon Katz refers to himself as 'Slashdot's resident Gasbag.' Is there any more doubt? For those fortunate few who aren't aware of the list of homosexual terminology found inside the Linux 'Sauce Code,' a 'Gasbag' is a pervert who gains sexual gratification from having a thin straw inserted into his urethra (or to use the common parlance, 'piss-pipe'), then his homosexual lover blows firmly down the straw to inflate his scrotum. This is, of course, when he's not busy violating the dignity and copyright of posters to Slashdot by gathering together their postings and publishing them en masse to further his twisted and manipulative journalistic agenda.

    Sick, disgusting antichristian perverts, the lot of them.

    In addition, many of the Linux distributions (a 'distribution' is the most common way to spread the faggots' wares) are run by faggot groups. The Slackware distro is named after the 'Slack-wear' fags wear to allow easy access to the anus for sexual purposes. Furthermore, Slackware is a close anagram of claw arse, a reference to the homosexual practise of anal fisting. The Mandrake product is run by a group of French faggot satanists, and is named after the faggot nickname for the vibrator. It was also chosen because it is an anagram for dark amen and ram naked, which is what they do.

    Another 'distro,' (abbrieviated as such because it sounds a bit like 'Disco,' which is where homosexuals preyed on young boys in the 1970s), is Debian, an anagram of in a bed, which could be considered innocent enough (after all, a bed is both where we sleep and pray), until we realise what other names Debian uses to describe their foul wares. 'Woody' is obvious enough, being a term for the erect male penis, glistening with pre-cum. But far sicker is the phrase 'Frozen Potato' that they use. This filthy term, again found in the secret homosexual 'Sauce Code,' refers to the solo homosexual practice of defecating into a clear polythene bag, shaping the turd into a crude approximation of the male phallus, then leaving it in the freezer overnight until it becomes solid. The practitioner then proceeds to push the frozen 'potato' up his own rectum, squeezing it in and out until his tight young balls erupt in a screaming orgasm.

    And Red Hat is secret homo slang for the tip of a penis that is soaked in blood from a freshly violated underage ringpiece.

    The fags have even invented special tools to aid their faggotry! For example, the 'supermount' tool was devised to allow deeper penetration, which is good for fags because it gives more pressure on the prostate gland. 'Automount' is used, on the other hand, because Linux users are all fat and gay, and need to mount each other automatically.

    The depths of their depravity can be seen in their use of 'mount points.' These are, plainly speaking, the different points of penetration. The main one is obviously /anus, but there are others. Militant fags even say 'there is no /opt mount point' because for these dirty perverts faggotry is not optional but a way of life.

    More evidence is in the fact that Linux users say how much they love `man`, even going so far as to say that all new Linux users (who are in fact just innocent heterosexuals indoctrinated by the gay propaganda) should try out `man`. In no other system do users boast of their frequent recourse to a man.

    Other areas of the system also show Linux's inherit gayness. For example, people are often told of the 'FAQ,' but how many innocent heterosexual Windows users know what this actually means. The answer is shocking: Faggot Anal Quest: the voyage of discovery for newly converted fags!

    Even the title 'Slashdot' originally referred to a homosexual practice. Slashdot of course refers to the popular gay practice of blood-letting. The Slashbots, of course are those super-zealous homosexuals who take this perversion to its extreme by ripping open their anuses, as seen on the site most popular with Slashdot users, the depraved work of Satan, http://www.eff.org/.

    The editors of Slashdot also have homosexual names: 'Hemos' is obvious in itself, being one vowel away from 'Homos.' But even more sickening is 'Commander Taco' which sounds a bit like 'Commode in Taco,' filthy gay slang for a pair of spreadeagled buttocks that are caked with excrement. (The best form of lubrication, they insist.) Sometimes, these 'Taco Commodes' have special 'Salsa Sauce' (blood from a ruptured rectum) and 'Cheese' (rancid flakes of penis discharge) toppings. And to make it even worse, Slashdot runs on Apache!

    The Apache server, whose use among fags is as prevalent as AIDS, is named after homosexual activity -- as everyone knows, popular faggot band, the Village People, featured an Apache Indian, and it is for him that this gay program is named.

    And that's not forgetting the use of patches in the Linux fag world -- patches are used to make the anus accessible for repeated anal sex even after its rupture by a session of fisting.

    To summarise: Linux is gay. 'Slash -- Dot' is the graphical description of the space between a young boy's scrotum and anus. And BeOS is for hermaphrodites and disabled 'stumpers.'

    FEEDBACK
    What worries me is how much you know about what gay people do. I'm scared I actually read this whole thing. I think this post is a good example of the negative effects of Internet usage on people. This person obviously has no social life anymore and had to result to writing something as stupid as this. And actually take the time to do it too. Although... I think it was satire.. blah.. it's early. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    Well, the only reason I know all about this is because I had the misfortune to read the Linux 'Sauce code' once. Although publicised as the computer code needed to get Linux up and running on a computer (and haven't you always been worried about the phrase 'Monolithic Kernel'?), this foul document is actually a detailed and graphic description of every conceivable degrading perversion known to the human race, as well as a few of the major animal species. It has shocked and disturbed me, to the point of needing to shock and disturb the common man to warn them of the impending homo-calypse which threatens to engulf our planet.
    You must work for the government. Trying to post the most obscene stuff in hopes that slashdot won't be able to continue or something, due to legal woes. If i ever see your ugly face, i'm going to stick my fireplace poker up your ass, after it's nice and hot, to weld shut that nasty gaping hole of yours. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    Doesn't it give you a hard-on to imagine your thick strong poker ramming it's way up my most sacred of sphincters? You're beyond help, my friend, as the only thing you can imagine is the foul penetrative violation of another man. Are you sure you're not Eric Raymond? The government, being populated by limp-wristed liberals, could never stem the sickening tide of homosexual child molesting Linux advocacy. Hell, they've given NAMBLA free reign for years!
    you really should post this logged in. i wish i could remember jebus's password, cuz i'd give it to you. -- mighty jebus, Slashdot


    Thank you for your kind words of support. However, this document shall only ever be posted anonymously. This is because the 'Open Sauce' movement is a sham, proposing homoerotic cults of hero worshipping in the name of freedom. I speak for the common man. For any man who prefers the warm, enveloping velvet folds of a woman's vagina to the tight puckered ringpiece of a child. These men, being common, decent folk, don't have a say in the political hypocrisy that is Slashdot culture. I am the unknown liberator.
    ROLF LAMO i hate linux FAGGOTS -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    We shouldn't hate them, we should pity them for the misguided fools they are... Fanatical Linux zeal-outs need to be herded into camps for re-education and subsequent rehabilitation into normal heterosexual society. This re-education shall be achieved by forcing them to watch repeats of Baywatch until the very mention of Pamela Anderson causes them to fill their pants with healthy heterosexual jism.
    Actually, that's not at all how scrotal inflation works. I understand it involves injecting sterile saline solution into the scrotum. I've never tried this, but you can read how to do it safely in case you're interested. (Before you moderate this down, ask yourself honestly -- who are the real crazies -- people who do scrotal inflation, or people who pay $1000+ for a game console?) -- double_h, Slashdot


    Well, it just goes to show that even the holy Linux 'sauce code' is riddled with bugs that need fixing. (The irony of Jon Katz not even being able to inflate his scrotum correctly has not been lost on me.) The Linux pervert elite already acknowledge this, with their queer slogan: 'Given enough arms, all rectums are shallow.' And anyway, the PS2 sucks major cock and isn't worth the money. Intellivision forever!
    dude did u used to post on msnbc's nt bulletin board now that u are doing anti-gay posts u also need to start in with anti-black stuff too c u in church -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    For one thing, whilst Linux is a cavalcade of queer propaganda masquerading as the future of computing, NT is used by people who think nothing better of encasing their genitals in quick setting plaster then going to see a really dirty porno film, enjoying the restriction enforced onto them. Remember, a wasted arousal is a sin in the eyes of the Catholic church. Clearly, the only god-fearing Christian operating system in existence is CP/M -- The Christian Program Monitor. All computer users should immediately ask their local pastor to install this fine OS onto their systems. It is the only route to salvation.

    Secondly, this message is for every man. Computers know no colour. Not only that, but one of the finest websites in the world is maintained by a Black Man . Now fuck off you racist donkey felcher.
    And don't forget that slashdot was written in Perl, which is just too close to 'Pearl Necklace' for comfort.... oh wait; that's something all you heterosexuals do.... I can't help but wonder how much faster the trolls could do First-Posts on this site if it were redone in PHP... I could hand-type dynamic HTML pages faster than Perl can do them. -- phee, Slashdot


    Although there is nothing unholy about the fine heterosexual act of ejaculating between a woman's breasts, squirting one's load up towards her neck and chin area, it should be noted that Perl (standing for Pansies Entering Rectums Locally) is also close to 'Pearl Monocle,' 'Pearl Nosering,' and the ubiquitous 'Pearl Enema.'

    One scary thing about Perl is that it contains hidden homosexual messages. Take the following code: LWP::Simple -- It looks innocuous enough, doesn't it? But look at the line closely: There are two colons next to each other! As Larry 'Balls to the' Wall would openly admit in the Perl Documentation, Perl was designed from the ground up to indoctrinate it's programmers into performing unnatural sexual acts -- having two colons so closely together is clearly a reference to the perverse sickening act of 'colon kissing,' whereby two homosexual queers spread their buttocks wide, pressing their filthy torn sphincters together. They then share small round objects like marbles or golfballs by passing them from one rectum to another using muscle contraction alone. This is also referred to in programming 'circles' as 'Parameter Passing.'

    And PHP stands for Perverted Homosexual Penetration. Didn't you know?
    Thank you for your valuable input on this. I am sure you will be never forgotten. BTW: Did I mention that this could be useful in terraforming Mars? Mars rulaa. -- Eimernase, Slashdot


    Well, I don't know about terraforming Mars, but I do know that homosexual Linux Advocates have been probing Uranus for years.
    That's inspiring. Keep up the good work, AC. May God in his wisdom grant you the strength to bring the plain honest truth to this community, and make it pure again. Yours, Cerberus. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    *sniff* That brings a tear to my eye. Thank you once more for your kind support. I have taken faith in the knowledge that I am doing the Good Lord's work, but it is encouraging to know that I am helping out the common man here.

    However, I should be cautious about revealing your name 'Cerberus' on such a filthy den of depravity as Slashdot. It is a well known fact that the 'Kerberos' documentation from Microsoft is a detailed manual describing, in intimate, exacting detail, how to sexually penetrate a variety of unwilling canine animals; be they domesticated, wild, or mythical. Slashdot posters have taken great pleasure in illegally spreading this documentation far and wide, treating it as an 'extension' to the Linux 'Sauce Code,' for the sake of 'interoperability.' (The slang term they use for nonconsensual intercourse -- their favourite kind.)

    In fact, sick twisted Linux deviants are known to have LAN parties, (Love of Anal Naughtiness, needless to say.), wherein they entice a stray dog, known as the 'Samba Mount,' into their homes. Up to four of these filth-sodden blasphemers against nature take turns to plunge their erect, throbbing, uncircumcised members, conkers-deep, into the rectum, mouth, and other fleshy orifices of the poor animal. Eventually, the 'Samba Mount' collapses due to 'overload,' and needs to be 'rebooted.' (i.e., kicked out into the street, and left to fend for itself.) Many Linux users boast about their 'uptime' in such situations.
    Inspiring stuff! If only all trolls were this quality! -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    If only indeed. You can help our brave cause by moderating this message up as often as possible. I recommend '+1, Underrated,' as that will protect your precious Karma in Metamoderation. Only then can we break through the glass ceiling of Homosexual Slashdot Culture. Is it any wonder that the new version of Slashcode has been christened 'Bender'???

    If we can get just one of these postings up to at least '+1,' then it will be archived forever! Others will learn of our struggle, and join with us in our battle for freedom!
    It's pathetic you've spent so much time writing this. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    I am compelled to document the foulness and carnal depravity that is Linux, in order that we may prepare ourselves for the great holy war that is to follow. It is my solemn duty to peel back the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wire brush of enlightenment.
    As with any great open-source project, you need someone asking this question, so I'll do it. When the hell is version 2.0 going to be ready?!?! -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    I could make an arrogant, childish comment along the lines of 'Every time someone asks for 2.0, I won't release it for another 24 hours,' but the truth of the matter is that I'm quite nervous of releasing a 'number two,' as I can guarantee some filthy shit-slurping Linux pervert would want to suck it straight out of my anus before I've even had chance to wipe.
    I desperately want to suck your monolithic kernel, you sexy hunk, you. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    I sincerely hope you're Natalie Portman.
    Dude, nothing on slashdot larger than 3 paragraphs is worth reading. Try to distill the message, whatever it was, and maybe I'll read it. As it is, I have to much open source software to write to waste even 10 seconds of precious time. 10 seconds is all its gonna take M$ to whoop Linux's ass. Vigilence is the price of Free (as in libre -- from the fine, frou frou French language) Software. Hack on fellow geeks, and remember: Friday is Bouillabaisse day except for heathens who do not believe that Jesus died for their sins. Those godless, oil drench, bearded sexist clowns can pull grits from their pantaloons (another fine, fine French word) and eat that. Anyway, try to keep your message focused and concise. For concision is the soul of derision. Way. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    What the fuck?
    I've read your gay conspiracy post version 1.3.0 and I must say I'm impressed. In particular, I appreciate how you have managed to squeeze in a healthy dose of the latent homosexuality you gay-bashing homos tend to be full of. Thank you again. -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    Well bugger me!
    ooooh honey. how insecure are you!!! wann a little massage from deare bruci. love you -- Anonymous Coward, Slashdot


    Fuck right off!

    IMPORTANT: This message needs to be heard (Not HURD, which is an acronym for 'Huge Unclean Rectal Dilator') across the whole community, so it has been released into the Public Domain. You know, that licence that we all had before those homoerotic crypto-fascists came out with the GPL (Gay Penetration License) that is no more than an excuse to see who's got the biggest feces-encrusted cock. I would have put this up on Freshmeat, but that name is known to be a euphemism for the tight rump of a young boy.

    Come to think of it, the whole concept of 'Source Control' unnerves me, because it sounds a bit like 'Sauce Control,' which is a description of the homosexual practice of holding the base of the cock shaft tightly upon the point of ejaculation, thus causing a build up of semenal fluid that is only released upon entry into an incision made into the base of the receiver's scrotum. And 'Open Sauce' is the act of ejaculating into another mans face or perhaps a biscuit to be shared later. Obviously, 'Closed Sauce' is the only Christian thing to do, as evidenced by the fact that it is what Cathedrals are all about.

    Contributors: (although not to the eternal game of 'soggy biscuit' that open 'sauce' development has become) Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, phee, Anonymous Coward, mighty jebus, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, double_h, Anonymous Coward, Eimernase, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward, Anonymous Coward. Further contributions are welcome.

    Current changes: This version sent to FreeWIPO by 'Bring BackATV' as plain text. Reformatted everything, added all links back in (that we could match from the previous version), many new ones (Slashbot bait links). Even more spelling fixed. Who wrote this thing, CmdrTaco himself?

    Previous changes: Yet more changes added. Spelling fixed. Feedback added. Explanation of 'distro' system. 'Mount Point' syntax described. More filth regarding `man` and Slashdot. Yet more fucking spelling fixed. 'Fetchmail' uncovered further. More Slashbot baiting. Apache exposed. Distribution licence at foot of document.

    - posted by poopbot: crapflooding since 7/8/02

    0EemRNDT0q Post #330
  37. Travel to .nl, and then pay? by p24t · · Score: 1

    I dunno, sounds like fun, but then again, that's why I'm going to Quakecon next month. We're running a full 100mbit LAN with internet access in a 1500 seat Bring-Your-Own-Computer area, and of course 2 tournaments with big cash prizes. Not going to have paintball, but then again its only 3 days for the event. (a little easier if you can only come on the weekend.) Get to see some of the cool displays from id Software, ATI, and whoever else is there this year. Last year, something like 3000 people showed up, to play, compete, or just to hang out.

    Not to mention, I'd rather have my computer inside. Just one of those things. Concrete floor, A/C, etc.

    But if I could go, I'd be there.

    p24t
    p24t-at-quakecon.org

  38. Fragapalooza in Western Canada by CodeMunch · · Score: 2
    Fragapalooza sponsored this year by Voodoo (check out the goods they gave away) with Intel (processors galore), Shaw (net access), etc... I'm not affiliated with any of those companies but they did a helluva job to make it a good time.

    It happens yearly (incidentally, last weekend). 4 days of non-stop gaming, contests & silliness. Lots of case mods (my fav was the labatts blue fridge system). A buddy of mine won a can of SPAM for the best "Ghetto mod" PC - a beat up gateway with duct-tape keeping the cover on.

    3 & 4AM Sunday MOHAA: funnies included 'nade dancing, an orgy, an unsuccessful congo line (some dumbass kept dropping nades) and a human pyramid.

    Official tourney's were were 5v5 Counterstrike (blech!), 4v4 RA3, and an Xbox Halo tourney. See the site for the give-a-way goodies & details.

    It was loads of fun and I'll definitely be back next year. We even had a guy from Washington state (but the guy arrived with a fried HDD). And wow...chicks...and 1 in a skipping contest, no less...*droool*

    1. Re:Fragapalooza in Western Canada by BagOBones · · Score: 1

      I attended this year. It was great.. I have stopped by a few times in the past but never had the time to attend.. 1111 people registered this year, it was a blast.
      Only problem was that more people attended this year that ever before and there was some power problems because of the number of people.
      Man there where some great prizes up for grabs.. from both offical and private gaming contests.. Even some cool door prizes.

      --
      EA David Gardner -"... but the consumers have proven that actually what they want is fun."
  39. What is it with the Netherlands? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There seems to be a lot of smart people there. A lot of programmers seem to be Dutch (Blender), etc...

    Something in the pot, perhaps? I dunno!

    1. Re:What is it with the Netherlands? by H3XA · · Score: 2, Funny

      apparently it is something to do with the fact that outside is too damn cold to do anything and beer is expensive..... so they stay home and use the computer.

      - HeXa

    2. Re:What is it with the Netherlands? by jvhaarst · · Score: 1

      Expensive beer ?
      In the country that makes Heineken and Grolsch ?
      How about a sixpack of Heineken for $4 ?

      Nah, live is cheap around here.

    3. Re:What is it with the Netherlands? by Ly0n · · Score: 1

      no.

      we are just all nerds.

    4. Re:What is it with the Netherlands? by H3XA · · Score: 1

      That was what I read years ago when someone reviews one of the "demo scene" group members. Think it was the guy who ended working on "Magic Carpet" for Bullfrog.

      ???

      - HeXa

  40. Burningman by Red+Storm · · Score: 3, Informative

    Dunno... the technology available up there is pretty amazing.... 6mbit satelite pipe... many 802.11b networks (with a relatively low noise floor too!) pirate radio to your heart's content, and plya information kiosk's running freeBSD... But the best technology up there is leaving your computer behind and hanging out with a bunch of other techies and freaks and hacking what's available to make something really cool.

    --
    ---- Fight to protect your right to keep and arm bears! ummmm... ya I think that's right....
  41. Where's the 80211x by adewolf · · Score: 2

    What no wireless networking? Alex DeWolf

    --
    "The Brady Bunch is back...working homicide"
    1. Re:Where's the 80211x by Huogo · · Score: 2, Funny

      11 mbps/1200 people = 0.009167 Mbps/person = 9kb per person. No thanks.

    2. Re:Where's the 80211x by op00to · · Score: 1

      There's a few problems with your calculation, buddy. First, IF it were possible to have all 1200 people grouped together, not everyone would be using as much bandwidth as possible at once. Also, it is pretty much impossible to cover the physical space required for 1,200 computers with one access point, so you're damn tootin' that they'd have more than one. With correct network design, you could easily give everyone a fair slice of bandwidth.

  42. WELBY NEWS HOUR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The Welby News Hour
    * * * * * * * * * *

    Sacramento's most hidden/elusive, hydrocodone addicted jobless heavy is back in motherfuck'en business. I got so much shit on my plate it's unbelievable.

    First off, let me tell you I always disliked Slashdot for the simple fact it's so deplorably propaganda ridden that the task of finding an objective viewpoint is as perceivably difficult to human as the task of burying shit on a tin roof is to a cat. Second, I have categorically unraveled one of the greatest mysteries of the cosmos; I now know that my soul transcends because how else could someone be designed to suffer this much? I drove past a young man with earings and short hair and felt the longing so fimilar to myself. Incidentially, he was throwing a foot ball.

    After hitting my old man up for some money (ain't unemployment totally depressing) I filled a Vicodin script (yes, people. I am reduced to Vicodin. Recollect the feeling of reward and happiness when I used to eat Norcos, Oxycodone 40 mg extended release and Methadose tablets in mass quantity -- compare it to this modest drug consumption and you have an unmatched feeling of barren, the mechanics for a real bad state of mind) and of course popped a few right before my meal arrives, never AFTER dinner. For the young ones out there busy dissecting Grandma's privacy for a few T3's, always take the pills in the following manner: Do not drink massive amounts of water before taking the pills; Always take the pills with an anti-histamine and/or 60 milligrams of dextromethorphan; Always take the pills with a tranquilizer such as Valium; And, lastly, take the pills before eating a meal, not after, for the better effect.

    Another item of interest is the great feeling of sadness I'm in posession of. I feel overwhelmed when I become aware of the mental link with people in similar emotional predicaments. My friends, I wish you nothing but the best ... I'm very close to ending the tired road because there is no God who could make every cell in my body cry out for justice. I want to never hear again the cruel words of the ignorant that are mass-broadcasted to all the stupid, vulnerable dip shits of this country. I want to never experience again dope withdrawl, the meaningless activities necessary for my long term survival, being called a drug addict, having to witness the defects of certain legions who continue feeding (consciously?) the stereotypes they claim to be burdened by, never having to bear the thought of being alone without a lover ......

    So it occurs to me while sitting at my table -- why am I fucking lying down taking this bull shit? We need to get active, people... The more of us that stand up, the better off we are. We can't let things go on the way they are; we need to at least make our voice heard. In this case, silence is worse than even the most inflammatory statements.

    This concludes the first instillment of the news hour. More to come, soon. I'm going to be doing some reviews and depositions that will make people think. I like the idea of re-taking a wholly inept website -- power to the people.

    Vibrantly Yours,
    "Welby"

  43. The only thing worse by Mordant · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    than being forced to spend 11 days outdoors in the company of a bunch of dirty, nerdy hippies is being forced to spend 11 days outdoors in the company of a bunch of dirty, nerdy, EURO-hippies.

    I mean, Europeans only bathe, like, 1/month as it is; can you imagine the foetid odor which will cling, napalm-like, to every man, woman and child for miles - oops, sorry, *kilometers* - downwind of the place?

  44. Burning Man by Uncle+Gropey · · Score: 1

    OK It's definately a cool event, but it is reserved for a particular political leaning. I would say that the closest thing we have in the good ol' US is held in Mesquite TX every year. I'm too drunk to remember the name for sure but it might be QuakeCon.

    1. Re:Burning Man by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Political leaning? It's designed for all political alignments to come together.

  45. tsk, that's smalltime :) by whizzter · · Score: 5, Informative

    in scandinavia we have a long tradition of large parties

    dreamhack in sweden had 5000 attenders last winter
    the gathering usually has about the same amount aswell, taking place in norway

    lanparties isn't for nerds at all tho imho.
    even if dreamhack and tg has roots in the demoscene
    they are looked down upon nowadays as just another commercial event.

    there are 2 other alternatives among the bigger events that still has some sort of respect
    them being assembly in finland
    and theparty in denmark
    with stronger roots and better connection to the demoscene still today,
    thus being accepted even by most hardcore people

    there are a bunch of events all around europe aswell,
    but for the really big stuff,

    welcome to scandinavia

    /jonas

    1. Re:tsk, that's smalltime :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll
      For fucks sake man, if you're gonna post on Slashdot, at least take care to use proper fucking English when doing so:
      • Capitalize the first word of every sentence.
      • If you use an abbreviation, you should put it in CAPS .. for example, it's "IMHO" not "imho".
      • Capitalize the first word of every name .. for example, "Sweden" not "sweden".
      • Do not merge words together. It's "as well", not "aswell" (and you used that wrong, too). It's "demo scene" not "demoscene".
      • Don't add your own linebreaks <br>, Slashdot will wrap your lines for you if you let it.
      • Know the difference between "has" and "have" .. for example, "events that still have some sort of respect". Note, HAVE not HAS!
      • Do not write out decimal numbers when they're lesser than twenty or so .. for example, write "two", not "2".
      I probably missed a few things, but mark my words, if you don't want to be frowned upon by me and others who will consider you a fuckwit for not taking care to learn English properly before trying to use it in a public forum, you better improve.

      By the way, some of the points you make in your posting need correcting:
      • LAN parties sure as hell are mostly for enthusiasts (I will not use the word "nerd", it means something else than what you meant in your ill-worded posting) - most "normal" do not consider spending three+ days in front of their computers a fun activity, especially when this includes being depraved of sleep and regular meals.
      • When you say "looked down upon", you are referring to the attitudes of the elitist "hard-core" scener fucks who consider gamers the scum of the earth. In the gaming community (which is about 20 times the size of the scener community), DreamHack is certainly not looked down upon.
      • While we're on the subject of commercial events, take a look at the Assembly homepage. Note the massive sponsor graphics on top. And those are no small companies. Assembly is way more of a commercial event than DH, though DH still attracts more people.
      Posting this AC to avoid soiling my inbox with flames...
    2. Re:tsk, that's smalltime :) by whizzter · · Score: 1

      First off, I know that i'm not good at grammars but i'll try to get them correct so that you can take my points seriously.
      (I didn't notice that the posts were html the first time I posted, so that made me a bit paranoid about the usage of br tags.)
      Anyhow, back to the topic
      Gamers pays for my prizemoney and my salary, so i don't have anything agains't them.
      Secondly i've been to Dreamhack three times and Assembly once, I certainly hope that you've visited both aswell and had some experience with the way things really are instead of judging by their webpages.
      Another thing that would make Assembly more commercial is that they have 24h broadcasts from the event on a cable channel in Helsinki

      But the real issue i have with Dreamhack is the attitude and intent of the organisers
      I won prizes in the compos at Dreamhack in 98 and 99, both times i got some hardware that was donated by some sponsors(and selling an ISDN-router isn't especially easy). They've improved on this point and a friend of mine who won best of show last year got about 1600 euros.

      But by putting this in contrast to Assembly you start wondering how much money they keep for themselves. This year the first prize in the democompo alone is 5000 euros, and the sums have been along the same amounts for some years now.
      This could be understandable if the organising Dreamhack was more expensive, but i personally have a very hard way seeing why.
      1: Dreamhack has been arranged in Jonkoping and Borlange, Assembly is arranged in Helsinki that is the capital of Finland. Looking at that i have a hard time beliving that the rent is more expensive for Dreamhack,Martin Ojes who is the main organiser of Dreamhack has been complaining about the rent in a discussion.
      2: Dreamhack has more attenders than Assembly, this should give a bigger profit, so you start wondering where the money goes.

      So either they keep the money or just plain suck at handling them.

      Some other things that makes you wonder about how things really are is:
      1: Dreamhack set out to be a BIG event from the first time they arranged it, by getting big premises and announcing to be the biggest one in sweden. Assembly on the other hand was first held in 92, they also intended to make a big event but it wasn't for the money back then as with Dreamhack.
      2: Dreamhack just copied the competition rules from Assembly or TheParty atleast one year(maybe more?). this shows that they themselves don't have a clue
      3: In 99, the guards openly said that Finnish people weren't allowed inside. This was due to a couple of them behaving really badly in 98. But not allowing any Finnish people inside? That almost feels rac*****. The few Finnish people that actually came back in 99 promised that they wouldn't even come back to 'this s***hole'.
      4: And a last point that's not very objective is that most people(sceners and gamers) does seem to have more fun and are more social at Assembly due to various events and other happenings. The Dreamhack organisers 'just' gives people places at tables and a network and events they've copied from other parties, they simply don't have the soul that gives a good feeling and a great party

      If you consider all that i'm sure you can understand my standpoint about Dreamhack, The organisers of The Gathering are closely tied to the ones at Dreamhack and i've heard some but not as bad stories about TG.

      - Jonas Lund (AKA Whizzter of Woorlic&TPOLM)

    3. Re:tsk, that's smalltime :) by Corpset · · Score: 1

      Yes, when complaining about unimportant shit that really has no relevance on this topic, you should go on as an AC. After all, it just adds some insight to the people that went and got an account to keep themselves from getting associated with people like you.

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  46. Quake con by chevelleSS · · Score: 1

    The Quake con held in Texas is the biggest multiplayer LAN event that I know of. The event has nearly doubled in size every year since its inception

  47. Paintball and Geeks by Stiletto · · Score: 3, Interesting


    This is not the first time I've seen a strange correlation between paintballers and computer geeks.

    As an avid paintballer myself (off and on for ~8years), I love the sport. It has a slight touch of "war-like" without much possibility of getting seriously injured (if done safely). So does that mean geeks like me tend to be war-like wimps? Too much pent up frustration? The need to take competativeness to the next level?

    I've never given it much thought actually....

    1. Re:Paintball and Geeks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not about being wimps, have you seen the paperwork involved to actually shoot someone in the head? It can take YEARS to work through.

    2. Re:Paintball and Geeks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pheraps you have psychological disorders or some serious issues. Go see a shrink. Paintball is the opposite of "war-like". In fact, some military people play this sport to distract their mind away from the "war-like" atmosphere that they are living on a daily basis.

    3. Re:Paintball and Geeks by Stiletto · · Score: 1


      You lack basic reading comprehension skills. Please repeat your third-grade level education and re-read my post. Thank you.

    4. Re:Paintball and Geeks by MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM · · Score: -1

      Thanks for the compliment! I'm currently first-grade.

  48. When I first glanced at the subject... by Mr.+Buckaroo · · Score: 0

    I thought it was talking about Everquest 2

  49. The Camp 2002, Denmark by mutende · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In Denmark, The Camp 2002 - a "do IT yourself" summer camp for nerds - started just yesterday and will last until next saturday.

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    Unselfish actions pay back better
    1. Re:The Camp 2002, Denmark by Mika_Lindman · · Score: 1

      I do it myself every day. Sometimes twice a day. My friend has a girlfriend, and he says he does it himself only few times a month, so I quess this camp is aimed for those with girlfriends ?

  50. what about the Rainbow? by malus · · Score: 1

    although fully of hippies and homeless, the rainbow gathering might qualify...

  51. CPL - Cyberathlete Professional League by eagl · · Score: 2

    The CPL holds an annual event with lots of cash and hardware prizes, game tournaments, you name it.

    http://www..thecpl.com/

    Many hardware or gaming review sites (especially the overclocker and FPS sites) should have links up now as there is a CPL event going on this weekend.

  52. Re:Burning Man? I think not by AceCaseOR · · Score: 1

    Actually, on an episode of "The Screen Savers" they did a thing about Burning Man, and apparently it's really wired, complete with Internet access. Seriously. If I could find the story, I'd post it to the list (if someone else would find it, that would help too).

    The story would be somewhere at The Screen Savers website

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  53. Multiplayer gaming includes... by Jake96 · · Score: 1

    "The main focus of the event is multiplayer gaming, but there will also be other activities, such as paintball."

    Isn't paintball a multiplayer game? Would be boring in single-player mode...

  54. Other gigantic lan parties across North America. by elrog · · Score: 1

    The first event that pops into my mind as quite possibly the biggest lan party in North America is the Million Man Lan. It spans two cities with 2500 people housed in each city.

    5000 > 1200.

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    A person who won't think has no advantage over one who can't think. --Paul Lutus
  55. Great Outdoors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think I'll pass on this one -- and any other outdoor LAN parties for that matter. Moisture + extreme, fluctuating temps = dead computers.

    Don't they have convention centers in europe?

  56. DO WE HAVE THAT IN AMERICA?!!! by richardmilhousnixon · · Score: 1

    "...a high-tech campground with full service, including a 100Mbit network and Internet access for everyone...home for up to 1200 computer enthusiasts...and other activities, such as paintball"

    Do we have that in North America? Sure, It's called COLLEGE!

    It's similar CampZone 2, but indoors...with beer.

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    -- sometimes AND gates turn me on.
    1. Re:DO WE HAVE THAT IN AMERICA?!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes you've got beer, we have got:

      - beer
      - weed
      - six flags (rollercoaster capital of europe)
      - fun!!!!!

  57. Field Day by ChicoLance · · Score: 1
    One of the oldest geek-outs has been the Amateur (Ham) Radio Field Day. Thousands of amatuers gather on hilltops each June, setup their radios, antennas, solar panels, generators, laptops, and barbeques to see how many other people you can contact in a 24-hour period. Radios can be busy at 4am trying to "network" with people with a minimum of equipment.

    Digital modes (i.e. PSK-31) are becomming more popular. Who said you couldn't try to play Quake against the group on the next mountain over.

    With more and more levels of technologies when using computers these days, it's neat to see radios work from coast-to-coast with little more than a wire strung between trees. Geek campouts at its most basic.

  58. beer was cheap by Trepidity · · Score: 2

    But soft drinks seemed ridiculously expensive last time I was there. I'm used to buying a 0,5-L bottle for EUR 0.50 in both the U.S. and Greece, and it was 2-3x that in Holland...

    1. Re:beer was cheap by Spruitje · · Score: 2


      But soft drinks seemed ridiculously expensive last time I was there. I'm used to buying a 0,5-L bottle for EUR 0.50 in both the U.S. and Greece, and it was 2-3x that in Holland...


      Heheh.
      That's why i'm always buying 1.5 liter bottles.
      They are cheaper and you can buy them at every super market.
      A bottle of coca cola cost something like ? 1,10.

    2. Re:beer was cheap by Quazion · · Score: 1

      Holland is full of tourist traps ;-)

      Never forgot your Dutch guide when touring the Netherlands :)

    3. Re:beer was cheap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm ... soft drinks are expensive, beer is cheap.

      Methinks there's an obvious answer here...

  59. This is not what computers are for by orthogonal · · Score: 1

    Uh, I use my computer so that I don't have to interact face to face with people.

    Much less smell their unwashed bodies out camping.

    Geeks are so much more presentable in ASCII.

  60. FUADEC is around the same time in Amsterdam by CaptainTVK · · Score: 1

    This could prove interesting! FUADEC (Freeciv Users and Developers European Convention) is planned for the sat 3th of aug in Amsterdam. A bit of competition never hurts ;)

    1. Re:FUADEC is around the same time in Amsterdam by Quazion · · Score: 2

      I am going to the FUADEC :)

      There will be held a FreeCiv Tournament also,
      more info at FUADEC

      Quazion.

  61. Lots off in .nl by dimmu · · Score: 1

    The Netherlands have a lot of these outdoor events and other huge-bandwidth lanparty's.

    Outdoor events include Megabit, Campzone, NE2000, WAN and ofcourse HAL2001/HIP1997 (and so)

    We had Takeover last year with Gigabit Internet Connectivity (which had about 350 mbit of traffic on it).

    So if you truly want to have some fun come on to .nl ;)

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    -- Cliff Albert
  62. Not even close to TG02 (4.5k) by eb4x · · Score: 1

    That's not even close toTG02 try multiplying it by 4 and you're getting somewhere. TG02 had over 4,500 participants. And this is in a tiny little country with a total population of 4.7 million.

    I'm surprised these types of LANs aren't held more often in the US. Or in Australia for that matter. I read a post previously wishing something about Australia and Sydney hosting a big LAN like Campzone2. You're telling me that a small country like Norway can have 4,500 participants at a LAN, and you don't think you can locate more than 1,200 gamers in a town like Sydney?

    There's gotta be atleast 5 million in that city alone.

    So what if it takes an hour of driving? I drive 4.5hrs just go get to TG02, it might take a while but damnit I'm going there!

    1. Re:Not even close to TG02 (4.5k) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I drove for 10 hours to get to TG02 and it was worth it big time.

  63. Huh? by budalite · · Score: 1

    Yeah, and next year they're gonna do a wireless telephone users convention.

  64. Hmm car restrictions? by riflemann · · Score: 1
    From the FAQ:

    Q: Can I bring a beamer?
    A: Bringing your beamer is possible. Make sure you are not causing inconvenience to other visitors.

    But will my Mercedes cause inconvenience?

    (OKOK - 'Beamer' in Dutch actually is a video projector)

    1. Re:Hmm car restrictions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I live in Gemany and had to think about that one too!

  65. Oooh ooh, one good reason for going! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The best part of the regulations:

    b. Using soft drugs
    Consuming soft drugs is allowed, as long you don't cause any inconvenience to other visitors. Obviously, each visitor is responsible for his own actions and therefore should comply with the legally allowed amount that a person may carry according Dutch Law.

    Legal weed at a LAN party - get signing up guys :)

  66. that's still a little expensive by Trepidity · · Score: 2

    A 2-L bottle of coca cola costs around 0,90 - 1,00 in the US...

  67. Relax with me by klerck+II · · Score: -1

    Emad.. your name sounds so sexy. I didn't get to see your hometown, Mustfuq, yet, but I'll probably do so soon.

    I was wondering if you your relationship with Sean is an open one. If so, maybe we could meet and you know, do something together. While I wouldn't want to do the chocholate-cream thing, I'd love to have regular gay sex with you.

    Please respond ASAP because my dick is sick of masturbating ^_^;;;;;

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  68. I only thought 600 were there! by supergumby · · Score: 1

    I was there too and can attest to the inferno in the conference center. My CPU was running at 70C for four days!

    I can't believe that I snagged 20GB of porno there. I would have got more but I ran out of space.