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Atari 2600 Hacks

olclops writes "Check out this guy's projects. He's an Atari 2600 programmer who's created, among other things, a cartridge that uses the 2600's sound generators to turn your atari into a full polyphonic synthesizer! The demos sound insane. Imagine being able to play console-perfect pitfall music from an atari hooked up to an amp. His other games look cool, too. Apparently, he'll be at the Classic Gaming Expo next weekend."

107 comments

  1. What could be geekier? by Kwikymart · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is pretty geeky. What could be geekier? Well, for one, hooking it up to this

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    1. Re:What could be geekier? by HFXPro · · Score: 1

      In it he states you can't see the drive headers move to high frequencies because our inferior human eyes can't pick this movement up. I'm thinking it could be more of a problem dealing with mechanical responce time or more precisely physics. The coil energizes one way and then the other before the head can even start to move. So the head just kind of stays in place.

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  2. good timing by roll_w.it · · Score: 1

    "This site is temporarily down for Network Maintenance."

  3. The New Old School Band by eric434 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Introducing the New Old School Band, with Lenny on the Atari with Synthcart, Joey on a Commodore 64 hacked to do guitar, Danny with the Drumsticks on the Apple IIes...

    On another note, if we put together a beowulf cluster of these, would we have a symphony? "Slashdot Symphony in AC Major..."

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    1. Re:The New Old School Band by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There was a band like that called Information Society.

    2. Re:The New Old School Band by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While InSoc has tons of geek cred, they used actual instruments designed for music. The gear list is somewhere on the site.

      I'm the only person in the world who actually likes 'Mirrorshades'.

    3. Re:The New Old School Band by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 2

      No you're not, although I like "How Long" more.

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  4. Why? by Kaz+Riprock · · Score: 2, Insightful

    For some things, "Because you can." just really isn't a good answer.

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    1. Re:Why? by freaq · · Score: 1

      when it comes to music, 'because you can' is a perfectly acceptable response. the facile example is bach's toccatta in Dm. it was written with the intent of humiliating organists, but quite a few have risen to the occassion over the centuries.

      i don't normally quote users outside of a thread, but...
      "Never ask a geek why, just nod your head and slowly back away." - Rob Malda
      (User #1 Info)

      also, the musical style is very similar to something i enjoy immensely.

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    2. Re:Why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I believe a famous climber said he was climbing Mount Everest, "because it was there."
      I think "why" isn't as important as just accomplishing the goals you set for yourself.
      Now what have you done lately?

    3. Re:Why? by hazyshadeofwinter · · Score: 1

      If you hafta ask, you'll never understand...

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    4. Re:Why? by dimator · · Score: 2

      For those who hack, no explanation is necessary.
      For those who don't, no explanation is possible.

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  5. Holy crap batman by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    60 versions of pong. Long live atari.

  6. He's an Atari 2600 programmer ... by BxT · · Score: 5, Funny


    Now there's something that looks good on the 'ol resume. :)

    1. Re:He's an Atari 2600 programmer ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would he need a resume? He's selling these videos like hotcakes!

      "I sold out of the first batch..."

      ++Anonymous "Pee Wee" Coward

    2. Re:He's an Atari 2600 programmer ... by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 2

      Tell me about it. :(

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  7. Demos are not JUST 2600s... by Tokerat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...do I hear some reverb in there? Dont' expect your polyphonic synth to sound like anything but an original atari 2600.

    Still, old sound chips do have many unique qualities. I'd love one of these. Now if only he'd sodder MIDI into one...

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    1. Re:Demos are not JUST 2600s... by Kobal · · Score: 1

      It sounds a bit like there is light post-processing, though it may only be the encoding. But the chorus-like effect probably comes from using two of these, as the file name hints at. On the other hand, you can get good results even with simple analog synths with minimal input, especially through using low frequency oscillations.

    2. Re:Demos are not JUST 2600s... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's "solder" you dolt.

      - G. M.

    3. Re:Demos are not JUST 2600s... by ctar · · Score: 1

      The demos are labeled..The first 2 say 'These are from the Atari ONLY' and the others say 'Yes, I am using reverb' etc...

    4. Re:Demos are not JUST 2600s... by Kobal · · Score: 1

      Not for the last one, unfortunately... The very first one sounds real good, anyway.

    5. Re:Demos are not JUST 2600s... by Tokerat · · Score: 2

      I clicked on the links from the story. They said it was supposed to be "just" the 2600.

      So in essence I didn't RTFA, but in my defense, the links provided should have been the "pure" links....

      It's a minor detail, I still think it's cool. What's the point of having a synth you cant' drown in effects anyways? :-D

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  8. very cool by faeryman · · Score: 1

    The synth carts are very cool things. If you can find one for sale, I'd reccomend picking it up. My brother bought one and ran it on a black/silver 2600 (?) iirc, but sadly he had to sale all his game systems so it's gone.

    A very interesting hack though. To think it runs in just 128 bytes in the RAM!

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    1. Re:very cool by faeryman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh yeah..I don't mean that only this particular 'game' runs in 128 bytes (I assume all the 2600 games did), but rather that it's so small by today's standards but can support something useable. I think it's really cool when people make projects on old systems like this since it's such a difference from computers with a gig of RAM.

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    2. Re:very cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the black and silver atari is an atari 7800, a newer console that can run old 2600 carts.

  9. Can we really trust this? by Kaz+Riprock · · Score: 3, Funny
    Feedback from a satisfied synthcart user:
    "man, i wanted to tell you that my girlfriend is having trouble pulling me away from the damn atari...hte synth cart is the coolest thing ever."
    Yeah...right...like anyone who is jammin' on his atari deck like it's a mixer has a girlfriend. And even if he did, would he be worth trying to pull away from his killer 4 note mix?
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    1. Re:Can we really trust this? by MADCOWbeserk · · Score: 1

      Very true, I don't play video games at all, no consoles in my apartment. Hence, I usually have a girlfriend.

      Although right after my /.karma topped out, my girlfriend dumped me, then I had the longest dry spell I have had in years. Maybe I shouldn't have spent so much time reading /., or maybe I shouldn't have slept with that bartender. I am still holding out for a hot rich girl, with a convertible.

  10. This is great! by httpamphibio.us · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's really interesting that in the last couple years lo-fi synthesis and reworking of old systems has made more progress than hardware synthesis (I'm aware of all the advances in software such as Scanned, Fourier, etc but none of them have made it to hardware yet. We've seen C64 SID chips make a comeback in the form of the SIDstation, and two great Gameboy synthesizers, Nanoloop, and Little Sound DJ all three of which are incredibly useful and have interesting and unique sounds. The kind of DIY synthesizers we'll find in 10 years is going to be fascinating.

    I hope the guy that is manufacturing the carts doesn't get overly slashdotted so I can get mine! :)

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    1. Re:This is great! by OneFix · · Score: 4, Interesting

      We've seen C64 SID chips make a comeback in the form of the SIDstation

      But, the terible part about this is that to make one of these, 2 C= 64's have to "die". Last I checked, noone was making the chip and since noone is making the C=64 now, this is sadly causing the destruction of the last "good" C-64's.

      I truly think the SIDstation is kewl, but I'ld actually like to see them start making new chips for this purpose. Or, better yet, break the C=64 down to a single chip (more than do-able) and turn it into a PDA...imagine all of the applications for a handheld C= 64...this way they would also have some processing power with that SID chip...

    2. Re:This is great! by hazyshadeofwinter · · Score: 1

      I've toyed with the idea of building a ReBirth/TB-303 style pattern sequencer + realtime controls prog in C64 assembly. Unfortunately, my 6502 skillz are the opposite of 1337, ie non-existent. And I don't have a hardware C64 anyway. Wouldn't want one as my sole musical instrument, but it would work OK for bleepy-squelchy techno noises...

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    3. Re:This is great! by OneFix · · Score: 2

      Dunno if this helps, but there's a SID Chip emulator for the PeeCee called SIDPLAY. It only approximates the SID, which is really an impossible process, as the SID is a hybrid Analog/Digital Chip.

      I vaugely remembered hearing discussions about a C64 on a ISA/PCI card, but don't know if it's real or if one can even be found today.

    4. Re:This is great! by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 1

      I would just like to point out that "no one" is actually two words, not one. I realize that many Slashdotters are not native to the English language.

    5. Re:This is great! by antibryce · · Score: 1

      No C64's "die" in the creation of the Sidstation. Elektron bought up every available sidchip on the market awhile ago. They stopped being made years ago, but warehouses still had boxes and boxes of them.

    6. Re:This is great! by chragaku · · Score: 1

      I believe Elektron has stated that they only use virgin SID chips in the SIDstation. In fact, since SIDs are no long produced, Elektron's supply last year had dwindled to approximately 20 virgin chips, meaning only 20 more SIDstations could be sold. They later found another small batch of chips to continue production with, but these finds are never large; only 100-200 chips at a time. Therefore, future availability of the SIDstation is always in doubt.

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    7. Re:This is great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here is a card that will work in your PC and Give you up to 4 Chips.
      No C64 units are harmed inthe making of these units AFAIK.

      http://www.hardsid.com

      Check out the quatro.

    8. Re:This is great! by OneFix · · Score: 2

      Kewl, it's $149, but you're getting what is pretty much "SID Surround" (Can I TM that now) :)

      Plus it says you get a free SID chip with every purchase...

      Are they actually making the new chips or just buying up old stock? I see the cards have a C= logo on them...so they're probably old stock. From reading that, it seems that you are only getting a card that can take 4 SID chips...not a card with 4 SID chips...and that's why they are giving a "Free SID Chip with every card"...

      I wonder how difficult it would be for ppl to start making new SID chips...it sounds like there might be a market for em...

  11. Wow! by skidgetron · · Score: 1

    This is some amazing stuff, if anybody has anymore links to things like this, post em.

    1. Re:Wow! by Kris_J · · Score: 2

      Okay - Cuttle Cart. Play any 2600 ROM on real hardware by encoding it as audio and playing it into the cart. A complete collection of Atari 2600 ROMs is six or seven 99-track CDs. That includes a large number of unreleased prototypes, modern releases and hacks.

    2. Re:Wow! by Paul+Slocum · · Score: 1

      The Cuttle Cart was used in the development of most of my 2600 projects. It allows you to go from source code to having the program running on a real Atari in a matter of seconds. It's a great tool and it's too bad he's not making them anymore. The Cuttle Cart is based on the Supercharger. -Paul

  12. take a second look by sc00p18 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The gory details of my thought processes:

    Ooh, new article. Yay.

    Reads title: Atari 2600 hacks

    Damnit Taco, not another webserver running on strange hardware!

    Oh wait, no, this may actually be cool.

    1. Re:take a second look by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you suck Slashdot cock! I see.

  13. Re:FIRST FUCKING POST! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    And the sad thing is, I got first post while simultaneously fucking your sister in her mouth. Then the bitch started whining because I wouldn't pay her the $5 for her crack, so I punched her in the face and broke her fucking jaw. Then I raped your mothers ass and pulled out and came in her mouth, and made the bitch swallow it, then I punched her in the stomach until she threw up my cum so I shit on the vomit and put it in the blender with your dog's intestines and a load of my shit. Then I made your dad drink it and then he threw up so I smeared the mess on my dick and made him lick it off. Then I fucked him up the ass and just as I was cumming I reached around and slit his throat, so his quivering body was shaking on my spurting cock while his blood dripped all over my balls.

    I did this all while your daugther watched.

    And I still got first post before you did.

    Actually, I didn't get fp but I did do everything else so what's it really matter?

  14. Loius Armstron, jazz pioneer, dead at 71 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Louis Armstrong, trumpet player and Jazz pioneer, died yesterday morning in his Los Angeles home. He was 71. Armstrong's last performance was at James Madison University's Convocation Center on March 24, 2001, where he played to a standing room only 5,000. Armstrong was helped off the stage by his wife of 20 years, and he later told a reporter for the campus newspaper "I don't know how much longer I can do this. This may be one of my last shows." His final song was his biggest hit, Hello Dolly! He is survived by his wife, 3 children and 6 grandchildren.

    1. Re:Loius Armstron, jazz pioneer, dead at 71 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      over 2 hours later and no one has a clue????

  15. yes but... by stud9920 · · Score: 1

    Were the demo mp3s encoded ON the atari ?

    1. Re:yes but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're hilarious! Not :-(

    2. Re:yes but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damnit, Jim, I'm an outdated game console, not a 21st-century toaster!

    3. Re:yes but... by Lisias · · Score: 0
      Were the demo mp3s encoded ON the atari ?

      No, by God's sake!

      The guy attached a Intellevision on the homemade 2600's audio-out to encode the sound, and used a Odissey2 as terminal console to type the MP3's tags.

      8-)

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    4. Re:yes but... by fabiolrs · · Score: 1

      ***Apontando para a assinatura***

      hahahahahahahaha

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  16. At least pick good music by jvmatthe · · Score: 3, Insightful
    ...console-perfect pitfall music...
    Yeesh. That's a terrible choice. The 'music' in Pitfall consisted mostly of Pitfall Harry doing a Tarzan yodel over on a vine, right? Maybe there was some bit of music when you started the game, but it was minimal.

    If you want to talk real Atari 2600 music, then at least pick something cool like California Games ('Louie, Louie' and 'Wipeout') or BMX Airmaster. Heck, even Pressure Cooker had a catchy freakin' tune that puts Pitfall to shame.

    If by Pitfall you really mean Pitfall II, then that wasn't really the Atari 2600 doing all the sound. That was a special chip on the cartridge (similar to the hack done with Ballblazer on the Atari 7800) that was handlin the cool music. It was awesome, that I'll admit, but it really isn't the 2600 doing the work and the emulators that support it had to add specific support for that particular cartridge to make the music work correctly.

    1. Re:At least pick good music by olclops · · Score: 1

      Dammit! The death music in Pitfall is hands down the peak of the craft. I'd love to be able to play that any time I wanted, without the cumbersomeness of actually playing Pitfall and dying.

  17. for those interested by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The SID chip from the Commodore 64 was recently put into a separate synth named the Sidstation. It's not a hack but it's a hack gone professional - aka. an innovative product. Elektron, the people who make it, are the most impressive audio hardware manufacturer's around right now, IMO. I can only wait to see what they do next.

  18. Strange place to find it... by OneFix · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I haven't seen mention of the relatively new song found on Andrew W.K.'s I Get Wet warning: the album has caused some controversy over the artist's bloodied face on the cover. The track is called "Ready To Die" and it features an intro done on what sounds like a PSX...it sounds similar to the chocobo music in the Final Fantasy series and the whole album is a very interesting mix of synth, guitar, and piano.

    1. Re:Strange place to find it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm only saying this because I care, and sometimes your friends don't want to upset you so they're not being honest, but it has to be said... You have truly awful taste in music.

    2. Re:Strange place to find it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Apparently this guy's fans are awfully proud of that fact, as is shown by this review from the linked Amazon site...

      Are you ready for complex, thought-provoking rock?, July 29, 2002 Reviewer: kwakerjak (see more about me) from Reinholds, PA United States

      If so, you are in the wrong place, mister. Andrew W.K.'s first blip on the music scene's radar came in early 2001, when he became a darling of the British music press by not being Radiohead. For those who simply need a break from confusing concept albums that don't always sound like rock, Andrew W.K. is a lifesaver: his music is loud and catchy, and his lyrics are defiantly stupid, almost as if he were trying to get people to stop thinking while listening to his music.

    3. Re:Strange place to find it... by OneFix · · Score: 1

      And just why do you think that? What is your taste in music? Is it because his songs don't always have "deep meaning"? If you don't like this guys music, then I'm sure you don't like Action or Comedy movies...how many video games have you played in the recent past? I think I'm making my point. For some of us, not all of our music has to have "deep meaning"...And, unlike some other current, artists this guy actually has talent. The album has 272 reviews on Amazon and still has a 4 1/2 star rating!!!

      But, then again, why do you think you have to berate other people's taste in music???

  19. Is this really relevant? by electricmonk · · Score: 0, Troll
    I mean, I understand the need to support some people who refuse to give up on their legacy hardware, but is this really necessary?

    Just because someone now found a way to hack into an Atari 2600 doesn't mean it belongs on the front page of Slashdot. Shit, they don't even use those for commercial applications. I doubt they can even run a webserver! So why would this guy spend so many years and man-hours trying to hack the 2600 when there are much more productive things to do, like audit Linux code for security holes that hackers could exploit? At least he'd be doing something constructive instead of purely malicious hacking.

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    1. Re:Is this really relevant? by Kobal · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't call it malicious hacking. That's art while code auditing is drudge work...

  20. i like it... by mattbland · · Score: 4, Insightful

    and from the majority of comments on here i can see that most of you don't. you don't see the point. he ddi this for his own enjoyment. to make a machine to something it wasn't designed to. to push the bounderies.

    most of the comments on this story have been trolls, or sad people on about why does this belong here. it belongs because it's cool.

    slashdot may be news for nerds and stuff that matters, but stuff appears on slashdot also because of it's encentric appeal or sheer coolness. don't forget it.

    btw, i had a 2600 with star raiders back in the early eighties. it came with one of those 'keyboard' pads, which i tried to plug into my spectrum and monitor the outputs so that i could use it with a game i was writing. i got nothing out of it that the machine could read, so i'm actaully glad that someone used them for something else apart from the one or two games that needed them.

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    1. Re:i like it... by Fat+Casper · · Score: 2
      ...i can see that most of you don't. you don't see the point. he ddi this for his own enjoyment.

      And he sells them. Enough people think he's on to something that it's a paying proposition. He sells enough that in April he dropped the prices. I'm surprised the trolls haven't been complaining about /. using the front page for advertising, even though that's not at all what the story's about. It's impressive as hell, and the fact that it's totally useless doesn't really matter.

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  22. Sound insane... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Well, I think the demos might sound insane because they've had a big amount of reverb put on them.

    They don't sound much more impressive than C64 demos (and probably less so, in fact), they just have nice postproduction!

  23. GRONK PISSHA PI-GRONK GRONK PISSHA! by herrd0kt0r · · Score: 3, Funny

    aww JEAH! old sk00l ghetto synth in da hizzaus!

    as mentioned above, the sidstation uses SID chips from the commodore 64 to generate all sorts of crazeh beeps and gronks-- the site also has a ton of demos as well.

    for all you crazeh c64 SID toon fans, be sure to check out the High Voltage SID Collection! tons of great SID toons from your childhood, including, but not limited to:

    - Contra! bew bew bee boop ba boodaboop!
    - Commando! chikkachikkabowgronk!
    - Ultima IV! ba blinng! ba da bling! ba da bling. ba da blonng...
    - and who could forget the cutting edge voice synth of Neuromancer? SSSHOMM SHINNGS MMEEEVVERR CHANNNSGE!

    you'll need the SIDPlay plugin to listen to these things with winamp. don't forget you can move the slider doohickey to choose from multiple tracks within each SID toon! WOOHOO!

  24. Off Topic? by paganizer · · Score: 2, Informative

    My Brother, who is an Insane Genius©, Has been using Atari systems, mainly the 800's and the Mega ST, since around '87 I think; He's got them hacked all to hell, built a scanner head into a printer, Parallel processing with random mutated code, good stuff like that.

    These machines are incredible for their era, which is not surprising considering they pretty much lost all the best talent in the company to Amiga.

    Enjoy Freenet & Frost while you can.

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  25. Result of profound research by Dexter77 · · Score: 1

    Finally after 26 years of profound research someone has found useful utilization for the Atari 2600!!!

  26. Underuse of Technology by LordDragonstar · · Score: 2

    It really makes me think of how underused most technology is before we discard it and "upgrade" to the next better thing.

    I think we need more people like this who innovate new ideas into old technology and use it in ways it was never thought of to be used in, even if it is just for a hobby or personal employment. (Did I just say we need more hackers?)

    Also, check the songs he made with TWO ataris, wild.
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    1. Re:Underuse of Technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's rare to find a talented hacker AND a talented musician. Most other DJs sound like shit this guy is really good... I've been playing his demos for the past hour in a loop and I still dig it.

  27. Sorry to disappoint you but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it sounds like crap!

    1. Re:Sorry to disappoint you but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. It sounds like crap, eggs, sausage and crap. Crappity, crap, wonderful crap!

      I don't like crap.

  28. c64 works without sid, too by muzzy · · Score: 1

    you can take sid out of c64 without breaking it, so the c64 will still be usable, just without sounds.

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  29. Aphex Twin anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So that's where Richard D James gets his sounds from... and I thought it was a Roland... pah!

  30. Looks interesting. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But I'll pass on the multicart. Looks like it wouldn't pass the FCC on radiated emissions.

    This guy should have gotten some PCBs made so he could avoid the mess.

  31. well.. back then they were what.. 10$ a game ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and now 35$, but only one per person ? i really should start to write games for the bbc micro again, maybe some crazy collectors will buy them for 35$ a pice too.

  32. Synthcart Beat Programming Contest by TheAlchemist · · Score: 2, Informative
    Paul did a great job with the Synthcart. We held a Synthcart Beat Contest back in February where users could submit beats that would be included on the final version of the cart. You can listen to all the submissions, at the buttom of the page. Many of them are quite good considering the instrument. :)

    Len Charest even created a web-based Synthcart Beat Data Generator for the contest to assist people in generating the beatdata.h file necessary to recompile the beats binary that you could then run on an Atari 2600 to listen to your creations.

  33. Doom for the 2600 by wackybrit · · Score: 1

    I can't believe no-one has mentioned the port of Doom for the Atari 2600 yet!

    1. Re:Doom for the 2600 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it wasnt mentioned because

      1. its fake
      2. its old

    2. Re:Doom for the 2600 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you have a foot odor problem? I've heard that many Chinese people have very stinky feet.

  34. Sound Quality And Commercial Use by Spaztek · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Amazing. Absolutely amazing.
    However i would have a few questions. First, what is the root device acting as the synthesizer. I believe that Atari was only capable of creating monophonic sounds from its own synthisizer. It is not possible to force and old synthesizer to create something it was not designed to do. Howver what i think that this guy did was create a synthesizer in a box, and used some good electronic engineering techniques to use the same electrical lines as the sound and control input/output, circumventing any microprocessing from the 2600 root board. Also i do question what type of sound quality the machine produces. If the lines inside the 2600 (soldered on a circuit board) are in good condition then he could transfer CD quality music through them. However impedance differences might create problems using noncommercial sound equipment. I applaud the man for creating a device that does indeed hack the Atari 2600, but maybe its not as cool as we thought

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    1. Re:Sound Quality And Commercial Use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yet another post about how smart you are... yet not smart enough to read the web page or download the audio tracks. There are links in the slashdot stories for a reason.

  35. And if you really like that kind of music... by Winjer2k · · Score: 1

    ...grab a copy of the album, "Nintendo Teenage Riot" by Alec Empire of Atari Teenage Riot fame. He made the entire album on a Game Boy.

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  36. Sorry, I meant to say Nintendo Teenage Robots by Winjer2k · · Score: 1

    >:(

    Yeah

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  37. Kitaro & the 2600 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This guy should team up with Kitaro.

  38. Re:Sad news ... Stephen King dead at 54 by JoeMirando · · Score: 1

    I haven't heard anything about this anywhere else... Has anyone confirmed this?

  39. Someone hacked my Atari 2600 once... by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 2

    I was right in the middle of playing Pitfall, when suddenly I noticed the game start to slow down.

    I scratched my head in wonderment until I notice Pitfall Harry stop in his tracks, give me the finger, and a crudely-drawn voice bubble appeared above his head with the words "1 0wnz0r j00R VCS, fagit!!!"

    Right away I knew I had been hacked, so I immediately lifted the phone cradle off my modem. Fortunately, it was only a 300 baud connection, so the culprit only made of with a K or so of the Pitfall! ROM that was inserted into the cartridge slot at the time. And simply cycling the power on the console wiped any malicious code he might have entered directly into the 2k of onboard RAM...

    Phew! Close calls...

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  40. What about those sticks? by Synistyr · · Score: 1

    Now what would really be impressive if he used those old thumb-buster joysticks to control the music!

    See how long you can DJ for before your hands fall off!

  41. Re:FIRST FUCKING POST! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dude! With such wholesome family values, you really should be a congressman.

  42. Synthcart by Paul+Slocum · · Score: 2, Informative

    Wow! Slashdotted. And my page survived too. Now I just have to bowl and 300 and get on the gong show. :o)

    Programming the Atari 2600 is pretty unusual. I had never programmed anything else like it. The 128 bytes of RAM and crazy cycle dependency is really satisfying to conquer. For in-depth info on Atari 2600 programming, check out The Dig.

    I've always had fun getting music out of devices that weren't really intended for it. One day I whipped together a really simple music program on the 2600 and it sounded so neat that I just kept adding features.

    The Synthcart does just use the Atari 2600's built in sound circuits. The only modification I did to my Atari was to get the audio before it goes to the RF modulator, but this was just for convenience. The 2600 has two independent oscillators. It's basically got 8 different waveforms, 4 bit volume control, and 5 bit pitch. The biggest limitation is the pitch since it's just divided down from the system clock, so you don't end up with many in-tune notes.

    There are a lot of other great Atari 2600 homebrew authors out there doing some neat stuff. You'll find most of their works on Hozer Video and you can find info on works in progress on Atariage.

    See you at CGE!

    -Paul

  43. Re: If ya like tha SID chip: by Amizell · · Score: 1

    ...you gotta check out QuadraSID. It's a VSTi for Cubase. Emulates 4 SID chips simultaneously for a total of 12 voices per instance of the VSTi. This is definitely one of my favorite virtual instruments. The sounds bring back fond memories of C64 Tetris - best soundtrack for a game EVER, even today. It was 40 minutes long for chrissake! :)

    alex

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  44. YOU spoke TOO soon.... by vortexau · · Score: 1

    "...and since noone is making the C=64 now, this is sad..."

    You spoke TOO soon! Check out the CommodoreOne, a re-creation of the famous C64, through the use of modern components.
    (PS- Jeri, the lady making it, is a fine-looking female!)

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    1. Re:YOU spoke TOO soon.... by OneFix · · Score: 1

      While that's a kewl project, there only seem to be 3 resellers (all in Europe)...And then, if you follow that link to the go64 article, you'll realise that the "MonsterSID" is a digital chip, therefore it suffers the same problem as all SID Chip emulators (no analog). The whole thing looks like nothing but a hardware emulation of the C64...I'm not saying that's bad (Coleco emulated the 2600 with their adapter module)...however, "pet projects" don't count...

      Kewl project though...(and yes, she does look good)

    2. Re:YOU spoke TOO soon.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "the "MonsterSID" is a digital chip, therefore it suffers the same problem as all SID Chip emulators (no analog)."

      The actual synthesis in the SID is digital. Most (if not all) of the analog conditioning, save the DAC, takes place outside the chip in a C=64.