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A Few Hardware Bits
Zygo writes "Most people seemed to like the hardware bites so here's another edition:
A small HD @ GideonTech, the VapoChill PE @ [H]ard|OCP, a big GPU cooler @ OCAddiction, PSU Relay Timer guide @ Virtual-Hideout, a water cooling kit on OverClocker Café, Heat spreaders on OCIA , and to end a PSU at Exteme Overclocking"
Looks like a bunch of articles from the most well-known hardware sites. They wouldn't be too hard to find, and IMHO they're not very newsworthy.
NEXT: Dell sells computers.
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Looks like you're using the "infinite monkeys and typewriters" scheme to generate Ask Slashdots again...
Hmm.. versus the "space is a vacuum" scheme of generating posts?
I dunno about the details of VapoChill, but in principle a refrigerator could have its 'hot end' glowing red, thereby increasing heat transfer rate. Remember that the refrigerator only moves the heat around, it doesn't eliminate it. The hot end must be cooled somehow. But unlike the processor, its temperature is not limited by the silicon.
Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
Perhaps they should have named the story: A Few Hardware Sites in the Arena, from the slashdot-effect-as-a-benchmark dept.
And after only 10 posts the Overclocker Cafe was already kicked out of the ring! Whos next? Stay tuned!
keep it simple.
WTF? That thing only reduced the tempreture by half a centigrade!
I think what slashdot needs to do is create an "over-clocking" topic. This way for those of us like myself, we can simple block this new "over-clocking" topic, but still see nifty news in the hardware topic.
just my 2 cents
Sunny Dubey
I was watching TechTV the other night and they mentioned that only XP and XP Pro will support HyperThreading. True? Seems W2K would work too.
Nah, I hate to see electronics head for the landfill as much as the other guy. I picked up the PC Power and Cooling PSU they reviewed last time. It's doing a fine job and is quiet. Actually the loudest fan in the case is that tiny little stock AMD CPU fan, what a racket! Seems to keep the CPU cool enough (XP2600/333), but I'd like to know where I can get a quieter fan for the stock HS.
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
There are a few cheaper models which don't come with a power adapter, expecting to be powered off the USB bus. The thing is, they report their peak load demand to the system's USB power manager, which is the hard drive spinup wattage. This is higher than most USB power busses can deliver, and the result is a current over limit warning and the inability to use the drive.
The fun comes in, because several of these use nonstandard power jacks (and in at least one case, the model hasn't an external power jack at all). You'll be left modifying the case yourself, trying to find the nonstandard power adapter, or trying to find one of the cheaper USB 2.0 cards without limit protection.
Is it "bit" or "bite"? It doesn't make much of a difference, it's just that one's past tense and one's not. "I'll bite your new improved video card." "I bit your new improved video card back when it was good."
Cyde Weys Musings - Scrutinizing the inscrutable
I can think of 3 reasons to OC.
1) Buy older/cheaper hardware and make it more useful. Ie, people with P3 Tualitans running at 1.8 ghz. That's a noticable boost.
2) People who want to be past the cutting edge. These are the ones who buy a new 3.06 and O/C it - just to be ahead of the curve. This could have real advantages. If you encoded a lot of video/audio, did a lot of rendering, other such CPU intensive tasks.
Mostly, though, 2 goes hand in hand with 3:
3) To show off.
Personally, I don't O/C CPUs. I'd rather have my new 2.53 cpu last for 5-10 years (like the P100 I'm using as a router) than have it run at 2.8ghz for a year or two.
If my board would allow me, I'd even underclock the fsb by 10mhz or so to run cooler and last longer.
That said, I'm squeezing the last bit of life out of my older 1st gen Radeon card with a 25% overclock (as per item #1)
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!!!!
IMHO, this is not a story that I want to see on Slashdot. There are already 343,225,988,332,112 hardware sites (most seemingly run by 13-year-old computer prodigies that have a rough time spelling), ALL of which carry the same collection of heat sink and other "enthusiast" hardware reviews. Use of Slashdot's bandwith for such redundancy is unnecessary, unless it's all part of an evil scheme to take out all 343,225,988,332,112 sites by slashdotting...leaving Slashdot to take over... If this is the case however, I'd like to note that I'd rather read about ESR (!!!) than the latest in static-lump-of-copper-with-a-noisy-ass-fan-on-top technology.
-JT
The kid who wrote that 'review' tips his hand at the very end, as despite being good for nothing in an actual sense, these 'spreaders' offer a whole new 'look' for your computer. You know, that grey box that site under the desk all the time.
Oh, while I'm thinking about it, watch out for my review of those fancy new red-anodized muffin tins which, although offering nothing actually beneficial to the production of muffins, does provide a whole new look to the inside of your oven. Hurray!
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Inventor of the term 'pardon my French'.
Rather than wasting all that time and money, and opening up your PSU, you could just do this.
:) ) Make sure the "coil" voltage is 5 or 12 volts.
Buy a relay, one that is rated to switch the amps you need on the switching side at 120volts (or 240 if you are from a third world country
Simply wire the coil side to your power supply's +5 or +12 and ground, and run the hot side of the power to the pump through the switching side.
Now, was that difficult? If you want it to delay when you turn it off, use a 5V relay and get a 1farad 5V super capacitor (the kind they use for CMOS memory backup) and wire it in parallel with the coil side, noting polarity. This will hold the relay closed for quite a while when the power is turned off (up to a minute or two), assuming the coil on the relay has sufficiently high ohmage.
Total cost: About $4 in parts, and 10 minutes reading about ohm's law if you don't already know it.
I've had enough abrasive sigs. Kittens are cute and fuzzy.
Anyone have experience with and/or links to tests regarding the noise level in VapoChill and water cooling kit systems?
I put an Iceberg I in my kids' Athlon XP 1900+ in the first part of September. It worked great for almost three months and then the heat exchanger (radiator) sprung a leak and fried my GeForce3 video card. I wrote that off since I was planning on upgrading it soon anyway. I also considered myself to be extremely lucky to have only lost something so easily replaced.
However, what burns me is the response I have received (or, lack thereof) from exoticpc.com (where I bought the fscking thing). BTW, their website is not working for me in Mozilla right now, but Konqeror seems to work.
I originally emailed them telling them about the radiator leak and asked for a refund. They did reply the next day saying that they would not return my money. But, I was told that they would give me a new reservoir since I had apparently screwed mine in too tightly and ruined it -- which is not the case, the reservoir is not leaking.
They apparently didn't bother to even read my complaint. I made it clear that the problem was with the radiator, not the reservoir. Here is my original message:
and, their reply:At any rate, I then replied to their mail asking for a replacement heat exchanger or radiator or whatever you call it. It has been ten days since I replied to their mail and I have not received any response. I just sent off another email to exoticpc.com hoping that it will elicit a response. (in case this post doesn'tThanks for reading. I feel a little better now.
This is probably one of the more practical uses of liquid cooling - the small-box desktop computer.
I use this box to run QNX, and use the stock motherboard VESA graphics. Putting in a heat-generating high end graphics board might create problems.
I don't know what kids review these power supply units, but wouldn't it be nice to see some kind of output graph to actually prove the delivered power is stable? I've seen this done for Enermax units and that is why I bought one. Seeing someone prove they can use a multimeter doesn't impress me, nor does it strengthen my faith in a product that powers expensive and sensitive electronics.
I'd call it moderate overclocking when people make sure the system is stable, even if they do overclock. This happens quite often, but of course it doesn't half the hype.
Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
arch ? What would be a great article, is a little background and some information on it and the changes that will be coming, if such info can be had without an NDA violation...
errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
OK Am I the only one that is thinging about water cooling with external connectors so the ratiator/fan assembly can go somewhere else? I was thinging a couple diversion valves and and car radiator/fan attached with some Pex one outside the house and one in the attic/basement to get the heat and more importantly noise away from the user. This seems a lot cheaper than my current cat5 KVM extentions and a long run for the speaker wires (ok it could just be one but I havent gotten around to a speaker set that takes coax spdif in) But I could get the only moving part in the PC down to the local hard drives and i could ditch those and netboot if I went to GigE to the server.
No sir I dont like it.
IN SOVIET RUSSIA,
Dell sells NeXT computers!!
Free as in mason.
the article on overclocker cafe talks about a system that mounts into the case with strong magnets.
so, let me get this straight: you want to put MAGNETS next to HARD DRIVES?!?!
doesn't seem like a good idea to me...
weylin
67.5% Slashdot Pure I guess I need to work on that....
Did anyone else read that as 'A Few Hardware Blts'? Maybe I've been coding too long...
--Dan
Hey Strat. I'm sorry bro, but your 2.53 is going to be obsolete in way less than 5-10 years. I mean, 10 years? Are you even remotely serious? That's just ludicrous.
Also, just a quick note to all of you peeps that didn't like the hardware news bits post. Check the top of this site, it does say "News for Nersds".
Obsolete, maybe, but if he can still use it to play GTA3 in 10 years rather than having a melted wad of silicon on an equally melted motherboard, it's better.
Y2K Compliant since the late 1890s
The best equipment for your work is, of course, the most expensive.
However, your neighbor is always wasting money that should be yours
by judging things by their price.
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