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Build Your Own Submarine
Nerobro writes "There's a group of geeks out there who are bound and determined to build their own submarines. In fact, there's a large group who have been successful. The most interesting is Cartsen Standfuss's CSSX-1. There is a mailing list, owners group and sizeable archive of information at psubs.org."
they don't build their own coffins too.
This is more dangerous than home built aircraft.
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The back of Popular Science has had Advertisments for plans for your own submarine,helicopter,airplane,etc... for decades. My neighbor growing up made the mini-sub in his garage.
No not a wear a wetsuit and you get an air-bubble type a full dry submarine capable of diving I believe he took it down to 60 feet... didn't have the guts to go lower than what you can safely escape from..
Nothing new here.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
I'm travelling to the US. This should make me feel 'secure'.
If you keep throwing chairs, one day you'll break windows....
..as long as it's yellow
Nerds should have this thing flying, uhh I mean floatin, errr boyancy? through the water.
http://www.hispanicvista.com/html/000908am.html
so they can say what's long, hard, and full of nerd seamen? our submarine.
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I dream of making a miniature remote controlled submarine. I have dreamed of putting torpedoes on it, too. It's a whole new way of fishing! Torpedo-Fried Algae/Fish/Dirt/Water/etc!
Surface, surface!
Sorry, Captain, the trim panel is trying to lend me money and the buoyancy controls are telling me where to buy a firewall.....thunk
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Nice project. I'd like to see more of the Deep Flight type submersibles though, rather than these ballast-based beasts.
...who will they tell it to?
Peter Madsen successfully operated his homegrown 1-man submarine in the harbour of Copenhagen last fall. It has been submerged for 1½ hour, and gone to a depth of 10 m.
That came on the heels of an accident where his submarine was heavily damaged by crashing into a bridge. Don't blame Peter though - it was carried on a truck! (danish)
During the test this fall the only problem was paranoid police boarding the sub (danish) to assure that Peter was not an activist intending to disrupt the EU summit.
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you can purchase your very own working second-hand submarine for a mere £40,000. aphex twin (music artist) has one.
"1,000 miles on the clock. only one careful owner, an old ladie who used it to pop down to the shops to pick up her groceries"
The most interesting is Cartsen Standfuss's CSSX-1.
Translation from Babelfish:
Hello of people, we look forward much you to our homepage to welcome to be allowed. Since, as can see it, our project takes slowly forms, we did not want to withhold it from anybody and you here on these sides from now on up to date will hold. Much fun... the Euronauten
The small cruiser is awake sank 1901 due to a Kollison during a fleet maneuver. Those is awake on request national office for soil care of monuments of the Mecklenburg Vorpommern only once with the data base was theoretically determined. Then regained by that private Wracksuchkutter Viney Peglar 1996 by means of Sidescan sonar before ruegen in the Baltic Sea only few hundred meters apart from the calculated position. The trunk of the Wrackes is not still very well received - superstructures. (source of photo: Kroschel Evers the German fleet 1848-1945)
Yes, hello of people. We also try to keep our data base theoretically determined. And we really appreciate that you look forward to welcome to allow us to your homepage. Much fun!
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Am I the only one here who is reminded of Hagbard Celine's Leif Eriksson submarine from Robert Anton Wilson's novels? :)
Now if those guys could build that...
After all, we can't have that information falling into the wrong hands...
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The jocks will be building ASDIC and depth charges. Prepare to experience the true meaning of "ping".
When I am king, you will be first against the wall.
Håkan Lans standing in front of his submarine, that is now placed in Swedens Technical Museum
Looks like the next round of Darwin Awards should be intetresting.
"Sic Semper Tyrannosaurus Rex."
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can't wait to see the first test. it will go down, but will it come back up??
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There are two basic design approaches to submarines. Ambient pressure designs and 1 atmosphere designs. They both have advantages and disadvantages and selecting the proper type depends on your criteria. Primarily the deciding criteria is cost and depth:
Ambient
Cost: $1,000 - $20,000
Max Depth: 0-160 feet
1 Atmosphere
Cost: $10,000 - $500,000
Max Depth: 0-1000+ feet
http://www.psubs.org/faq.html
Why do I have such a sinking feeling about their endeavour?
Theres a niche, but probably lucrative market for these things if they know where to look.
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a yellow submarine, a yellow submarine,
we all live in a yellow submarine,
and it's G-P-L'd.
This has to be stopped !
terrorists could capture one and...and...
think of the children !
Should we nominate them as a group or each individual independently?
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Without being disrespectful to the Free Submarines Foundation, I would like to mention the existence of this Open Source Submarines webpage.
Apparently, the Open Source developmentmodel is very suitable for building submarines. I cheer at this development. However, I still prefer free as in Willy submarines.
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I would much rather make a model destroyer, or anti-sub sea-king chopper... depth charges have been used for fishing for years because of their disrupting effects on fish's swim bladders (i.e. expanding bait, fishing with grenades), I could shoot more fish then you, and blow the crap out of your pathetic shitty submarine! What do you say about that smart guy?
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Ack! What the hell is with those stoopid ads? They are worse then pop ups (well on par with them, much worse since mozilla blocks them for me). I feel like ripping the nuts of the bastard that made them and shoving them down the throats of the idiots that uses the hosting service that puts them on their pages.
Other than that, the concept looks pretty cool, since I can't read german.
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Okay, it was just a small one. And it didn't go very deep. And it wasn't supposed to sink. YES, OKAY, DAMNIT I built a ROWING BOAT and it SANK on its MAIDEN VOYAGE!!!! ARE YOU HAPPY NOW!!???
Um, can we have some warning when a link is posted to a non-english site? It might sound annoyingly american or whatever but I'm sure it catches Koreans, etc. by surprise and annoys them to....
Just a "(German site)" is all I'm asking for next to the link.
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Impressive as the linked submarine is, it's just like a military boat: a steel cylinder. As useful as such a thing may be as a weapons platform, I can't imagine anybody riding in the thing for pleasure.
My own fantasy of a personal submarine comes from the Nautilus in 20000 Leagues Under the Sea. The most important feature: a glassed in drawing room, furnished with overstuffed chairs and oriental rugs, from which I can survey the unfolding panorama of the sea as I smoke seaweed cigars and sup on lobster tails whilst I plot my revenge on humanity.
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In other news today, Microsoft has already announced an ultra realistic sim version of building your own submarine, which allows you to actually take your craft into the water and suffocate OR drown to death.
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OK, so we need another pointer to http://www.ussubs.com/lead.html if you want to see a "plush sub". Plus they even offer underwater habitats, and cite a submarine as the safest place to be in these days of international terrorism. But I can't see much evidence of their actually having sold any of these neat selling points.
The living have better things to do than to continue hating the dead.
In America, everyone's a terrorist til proven otherwise :)
Now then, if someone would be so kind as to post their GPS coordinates we can begin our plans of dropping smart bombs!
Universities like Virginia Tech have been building these things for years.
If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem
With that many people working on submarine projects, two things come to mind immediately: how many of these guys really understand what they're doing? And... where on god's green earth do they get their money???
I can easily understand building a better bicycle frame, but a pressure hull? I don't *think* so...
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Geeks already built a submarine, the dot com business model. Oh yeah, it wouldn't resurface.
The web site of the guy in the article is at http://www.stanleysubmarines.com. It's worth a look. His sub costs virtually nothing to operate and it has done a dive to over 700 feet! It also doesn't need any special licensing or qualifications to operate.
Now that's cool
I built my own submarine. It was great - one that Jared would even be proud of. It was huge. A somewhat hard, by pliable exterior, with plenty of cool stuff on the inside.
Now though, I just have the submarines built for me. I even save those little stamps and get my ninth sub free.
... or your own underwater coffin, your choice on the title.
Ignore the "p2p is theft" trolls, they're just uninformed
And the ex-soviet empire is dying to sell their old diesel subs for almost nil.
So rise up, all ye lost ones, as one, we'll claw the clouds.
If the Germans figure out how to attach their potato bazookas to their home made subs we're all screwed.
Trolling is a art,
Structural failure leading to implosion!
Even at just 100 meters depth, you don't get much warning of a hull failure. One buckled plate becomes a total breach in about 1 second.
Deeper than 100 meters, I'm told that the water entering a breached hull hits you rather like a steam-hammer with most unpleasant results.
These things are great so long as you keep positive pressure (the difference between tin-can and crushed tin-can). However, keeping that pressure is probably defined as a 'blood-difficult' thing.
An automatic buyancy system is a great thing to have in an emergency unless the only thing it drags back to the surface is submariner soup
Fair play to this guy for having a go; he's definately got guts. I seem to remember that Germans used to be rather good at building these things.
As for homebuilt aircraft, barring structural failure, in an emergency you tend to have one major thing on your side: Time
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I spent 6 years on or working on fast attack subs. We had controls called Subsafe. This meant every part contributing to water tight integrity was tracked from the start of manufacture to installation.
Subsafe parts were quite expensive...but you were 100% pretty confident you weren't getting some cheap Taiwanese knockoff parts.
Where are these guys getting their stuff, the hardware store down the street? Enough said. Would I even think of going down in one of these boats? No...not ever.
Look at the lessons the Navy learned, Scorpion, Thresher. How are these things powered...batteries? Have you ever heard of the Bonefish
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This reminds me of that Get a Life! episode except that these seem way more expensive than $19.99.
If you've got $78 million, you can get this fancy number.
If you only have a measly $682,000, then maybe this guy is more your speed...and you can attach him to your yacht for greater range from shore to explore!
And for you Geo Metro fans, there's the el cheapo compacto.
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If you built it with an ambient-pressure based life support system (that is, air pressure in the cabin increases to match pressure outside the hull), that might work- the glass wouldn't have to withstand a pressure differential. You'd be limited to a bit over a hundred feet dive, though, and just as with SCUBA, you'd have to be careful coming up. See the Psubs site for more info.
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Das unterseeboat ist nicht fuer gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Ist easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowenfusen und poppencorken mit spitzensparken. Ist nicht fuer gewerken bei das dumpkopfen. Das rubbernecken sichtseeren keepen das cotten-pickenen hans in das pockets muss; relaxen und watchen das blinkenlichten.
If your bitterest enemies are people who hack the heads off civilians, then I would say you're doing something right.
Anyone know a source for a used 45 foot periscope?
This must be stopped! The terrorist could build their own sub and with some estes rockets, they could have a water going launching platform for weapons of mass destruction. We must stop this now! Will somebody please think of the unborn baby whales
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Why would they use glass instead of something like "lexan." Lexan is somewhat of a clear plastic-type material, often used as "bulletproof glass." I've heard that local lumber yards also use them as shields, since a 2-3" piece can stop a speeding log from caving in one's head. Should be able to survive water pressure,etc as well?
Concrete Submarines
This isn't so crazy, on the discovery channel or tlc a while back they had a special about a group of people who were recreating one of the early wooden subs that managed to stay submerged for several hours and sink some other ships or something.
IIRC, the group managed to get the thing built right at the deadline, the were racing against the clock for some reason such as the weather or because of their permit or something like that. And they got all the leaks fixed at the last minute or so, but then they discovered that the amount of carbon dioxide from exhaling quickly poisened the air in the ship for the one guy that was rowing.
Please note that 100 meters is roughly 300 ft or so. These depths were "challenge" even for WWII submersibles, and those beast were after all advanced.
If I'm not much mistaken, German type VII (the thing that Joe Sixpack associates with u-boat) u-boats were rated up to 90 meters. After that, it wass "off the warranty".
I would think twice before going below 10 meters (30 ft), for escape could get very tricky, if not impossible.
You talk like building a pressure hull is like levitation. All it really needs is to be air-tight, and strong enough for the pressures involved. Pick strong materials, do proper welds, design a hatch that seals when pushed on from the outside, thats it. No magic here.
1. Make sure you're one of those people who seem to have just a little _too_ much spare time on your hands.
2. Call up the bank just to say "Hi" and ask them if there's a few million bucks to spare on your savings account.
3. Did you write your will yet?
4. Get "Submarines for Dummies" and the highly acclaimed SAMS "Build your own submarine in 24 hours".
5. Buy a nice tube and tons of electronics which you may get a need for.
6. Start building!
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They say looks can deceive, but _come on_!
I wonder if the russians would paint it for me.. or put a big window on the side.. maybe a sliding glass door...
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That is why all submarines are designed with large safety factors. A submarine with an operational limit of 100 meters will be tested to 300 meter and have calculated crush depth of ~600meters or more.
Viewports are normally the weakest part of a submarines pressure barrier. But they just burst open, they will turn a milky color, the start to star crack, then after about six hour they will burst. OF course you notice the viewport (window) turning a milky color and return to the surface ASAP.
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Two points here: 1) the diameter of the cylinder dramatically effects the crush depth. 2) They have been vast improvements in steel working, producing steel that is many many many times strong that steel in 1945.
I would think twice before going below 10 meters (30 ft), for escape could get very tricky, if not impossible.
Small subs carry bail out gas, if the people in the sub have to leave the vessel they will pressurize the sub so it the same pressure as the outside water, then they can easily open the hatch and return to the surface. Some submarines allow you to do this and go scuba diving (up to a certain depth) then return to the submarine (of course it's flooded so you've gotta have some way of emptying it, either high pressure air or a pump).
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It appears that nauticalniche.com are selling underwater Gulfstream IV aircraft!
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I looked at the interior shots of the integrity60 submarine and thought to myslef "Gosh, this submarine interior looks just like a Gulfstream business jet!" Not to mention the "Exit" sign above the near left window
Here are some more Gulfstream links for comparison
Gulfstream IV
Gulfstream IVSP
Notice the location of the interior fittings such as lights/window surrounds.
Another thing with small-submarines is that as you descend, vast ammounts of condensation form inside the hull as underwater air-conditioners/scrubbers are a little too large for something this size. Wouldn't this make the nice shag-pile carpet a little soggy?
I wonder if the rest of the sub is for real or just a ruse?
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WHO is wearing parachutes in aircraft these days?
I'm 48, and I know lots of pilots, none of them wear parachutes while flying their aircraft.
I've never seen the passangers or crew of commercial aircraft wear parachutes.
And I don't recall any news stories of any non-military pilots ever using a parachute in an emergency.
So, just who is wearing parachutes in aircraft?
"If the people in the sub have to leave the vessel they will pressurize the sub so it the same pressure as the outside water, then they can easily open the hatch and return to the surface."
The technique for escaping a submarine in an emergency is to flood the compartment you are in so that you can open the hatch and swim out (breathing out to the surface to avoid lung-rupture).
For safety, submarine hatches (much like ship deck-hatches) are outward openers to avoid accidental flooding (water-pressure holds them shut). Thats why on a military submarine they are so fanatical about torpedo-loading with repeated tube-cock checks etc.
To pressurize a sub to match water pressure with air would be extremely dangerous if done in a hurry and the air would become poisonous; to breathe under pressure at depth (Deephabs) you have to be slowly pressurised with exotic gases. Note that regular submarines only increase pressure a little when submerged.
Lets say for the sake of argument that the submarine is pressurised to match outside pressure 1/1 with exotic gases and you and some others open the *bottom* hatch at 200meters to excape....
Immediately you let go of the sub you find yourself ascending at an incredible rate, gas rushing from your mouth, nose ears and eye sockets and your lungs searing. Finally you arrive at the surface travelling at such a rate that you are thrown several feet in the air. Somehow your lungs/arteries didn't rupture during the ascent but you now die in 20-30seconds from the massive nitrogen boil-off in your veins as you suffer from an incredible case of 'bends'
No two ways about it, submarines are still extremely dangerous.
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They also have a process where the pressuruise the WHOLE sub (or sections of it) then open a hatch on the bottom. Since the pressure is the same and the air won't go down, the water won't flood in. I know movies are usually "bad science' but they used something like this in "The Abyss" and "Deep Blue Sea". It's also done in real life.
Good parts are nice to have. When you can't afford them, it IS possible to inspect and prove the parts yourself and make them redundant. The lessons you cite are useful to anyone that wants to look. One of those lessons might be that procedures and regulations are no substitute for free enterprise and competition. If that were true, there would have been no Soviet accidents, but it's not and their service was more dangerous than ours.
It bothers me to see Americans with a "no can do" attitude. This country was founded by people who needed little more than an axe and a rifle. Taken to it's extreem, this attitude would lead to stringent requirements for everything that only one or two companies could meet. The result would look more like the former Soviet Union than the USA.
People out there building their own submarines and other stuff for themselves are the people that make this country work. They consider the problem and build experience to solve other problems that come up. We should be ashamed an worried when these nuts quit what they do.
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'Course it was only big enough to carry one passenger.
I don't think the hamster even bothered to look out.
And, yes, he was nice and dry when the sub resurfaced. Probably didn't even notice what was going on. He did poop in it, though.
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Have a lovely song and animation about submarines, and how you should buy me one.
I get the impression that with submarines, the closer you can get to one big hunk of metal for your hull, the better.
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But if you practice in a lake that's only 30' deep, and you have an openable hatch...
I guess all those movies they showed me on semaphore will finally come in handy! And to think, I never thought I would be able to start a war :P
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