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How to Make a Starship Enterprise out of a 3.5" Floppy

Wow, there is absolutely nothing good to post in the bin today, so you get to enjoy this little gem: Here are some simple instructions for making an Enterpris from a 3.5" floppy disk. Remember those? Before CDRWs cost next to nothing? Thanks to Ant for digging this one up. Update Removed the link when the original content was removed.

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  1. Haha by captainclever · · Score: 4, Funny

    An honest post if ever i saw one.

    That's about all floppy disks are good for anyway :)

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    1. Re:Haha by websaber · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Mayby the reason there's nothing to post is because people have stopped submitting stories. What's the use, they are always rejected anyway? 90% of posted stories are from the editorial staff. It's their right for creating such a amazing site but don't be suprised if people stop submitting/

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    2. Re:Haha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Not true! Floppies contain little pieces of soft paper that are *great* for wiping glasses (and you just know you are not a real nerd if you don't wear glasses!).

  2. umm... by caino59 · · Score: 4, Funny

    something about this is just wrong.

    yes somewhow, it seems to be sickly intriguing.

    damn.

    i must be a geek.

    1. Re:umm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
      something about this is just wrong.

      Not only is it wrong, it's downright illegal and violates the DMCA to do this. You're circumventing a copy write-protection device (the plastic case and tab). Nyuk nyuk nyuk. I'm here all week, try the veal.

  3. Light and sound... by Crasoum · · Score: 4, Funny

    The enterprise may go at light speed.

    But the grinding of the server's harddrives as we slashdot them only travels at the speed of sound
    Cheers

  4. Mirror! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hey you two people who actually got to see the page, rip that thing out of your web cache and share it please.

    1. Re:Mirror! by manonthespoon · · Score: 2

      This is what you see when you visit there site...

      "Due to the people at slashdot.org linking to this site without asking the owners or the hosters, asciipr0n.com is offline until further notice. Maybe you guys should start mirroring the sites you link to..."

      I feel so awful, since I didn't link to the site...

      Oh wait...

  5. Meh.. by fadeaway · · Score: 5, Funny

    Call me when we can make a Death Star out of a roll of CAT 5.

    1. Re:Meh.. by Fulkkari · · Score: 5, Funny
      Call me when we can make a Death Star out of a roll of CAT 5.

      You should have told earlier. I already used all of my CAT 5 when building C-3PO.

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  6. Just in case... by c_g_hills · · Score: 5, Informative

    the site is slashdotted, I have put up a mirror at

    chaz6.com/enterprise/

    1. Re:Just in case... by brejc8 · · Score: 4, Informative

      And I collected these mirrors.

    2. Re:Just in case... by Otter · · Score: 4, Informative

      ..and the original page now says, in its entirety, "SLASHDOT SUCKS" so you may want to rely on the mirrors!

    3. Re:Just in case... by greggish · · Score: 2, Funny

      Considering the steady decline in the quality and quantity of posts here, the answer is probably... Alot less than it used to.

    4. Re:Just in case... by duckpoopy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What a bunch of babies. Perhaps they don't want google to link to them either.

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    5. Re:Just in case... by b1t+r0t · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well it's not our fault that they don't know to use 16-color GIFs instead of JPGs when it's all a bunch of flood-filled line art! I mean, FURRFU!

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    6. Re:Just in case... by Trolling4Dollars · · Score: 5, Insightful
      WHY DID THEY PUT IT ON THE INTERNET IF THEY ONLY WANTED A FEW PEOPLE TO SEE IT?

      This is just idiotic. You have to realize that not everyone who puts up a website expects to have that kind of traffic. Nor should they. The other aspect to this is the folks who put up a website that may have some appeal on Slashdot, but don't really realize that. Maybe they are hosting it on an NT4 Workstation running Personal Web Services. Should they be expected to be able to withstand the onslaught of a Slashdotting? Do we ask the people who put flyers on cars in parking lots to publish on four color glossies? Would we expect them to? No. This is no different. Slashdot needs to consider these things. They should first ASK a site if it's OK to post their URL. Slashdot should then offer sites that WANT Slashdot exposure, but may not have the bandwidth or hardware to support a Slashdotting, the option of caching their site. All of this could be done very easily if the folks at Slashdot were to create an internal Slashdot site for themselves where they just point and click for this to be an automatic process.

      And for all you idiots who keep ripping on CmdrTaco for not being a "journalist"... get a fucking clue. Slashdot has NOTHING to do with journalism. It's basically a very advanced blog. That's it. They can't be held to any journalistic standards or accountability ebcause they are not a news source. That would be like asking a company who puts out a newsletter to fact check everything before it goes out to the staff. NO COMPANY truly does this. So to all you people who cry about journalistic integrity: get fucked.

    7. Re:Just in case... by geekoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you advertise a garge sale, and I write about in in my column, and 10,000 people show up, is it my fault? no.

      If you can't have enough sense to create a webpage that detects a spike in visits, and handles it approprietly, then tough tits.

      Should CNN mirrors sites it talks about?

      what happens to reporting if people have to ask before they can report something. If you are driving a hot pink cadilac, do I have to ask you before I point and laugh at you with my friends?

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  7. Nothing good to post??? by Alsee · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow, there is absolutely nothing good to post in the bin today

    It's not like that's ever stopped them before. Heck, they could always post a dupe.

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    1. Re:Nothing good to post??? by sqlrob · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why post a dupe? There's lot's of good stuff out there, like the new evil bit in TCP/IP.

    2. Re:Nothing good to post??? by nullard · · Score: 5, Interesting
      From the submit story page: grousing about rejected submissions is Offtopic and usually gets moderated that way.

      From the story: Wow, there is absolutely nothing good to post in the bin today

      It can't be offtopic now.

      There was something good in the bin:
      * 2003-04-04 17:19:21 Oregon Law Would Jail War Protesters as Terrorists (yro,usa) (rejected)

      Since it's a slow news day, you might want to read that article in my journal:

      Oregon is considering a law that would label protestors who disrupt traffic as terrorists. They would face 25 to life. So much for freedom of assembly. According to the article even the police union is opposed to this one.

      read more
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    3. Re:Nothing good to post??? by ChadN · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There are existing laws to deal with the trespass and obstruction, and existing civil and probably criminal penalties to deal with the damages caused to others by your actions. I don't support people shutting down freeways (I think it is generally counter-productive for any cause seeking to win people over), but those people are not necessarily terrorists. Whoever introduced this bill should be bitch-slapped, and not re-elected.

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    4. Re:Nothing good to post??? by Ponty · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is way offtopic, but I'll bite.

      We're going on and on as a country about just how crappy it is to live in other countries, with just cause.

      But when did we get so damned coddled as a country that stopping our SUVs from getting through a street is the worst thing that can happen to us? I've been listening to some of the counter-protestors on my campus, and they seem to be the most thin-skinned reactionaries I have ever met. I'm not an avid anti-war person (though I oppose it), but I'd be embarrassed to be associated with group of people who can't think of anything more threatening to their daily lives than the possibility of blocked traffic.

      The notion that the blocking of traffic endangers people through the blocking of emergency services is specious. Plenty of things block traffic a lot more often than protests do -- road work, parades, weather. Are those terrorism?

    5. Re:Nothing good to post??? by rossifer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Wow, it's pretty much strawman central at your place isn't it?

      Only in a military dominated dictatorship does the minority make the rules. The United States is a Democratic Republic.

      Actually, we're not. As you may or may not have learned in 9th grade civics, the US is a Constitutionally Limited Republic, precisely to prevent the majority from making rules that screw over an unpopular minority.

      We have a process in which to 'listen to the damn people.' It's called elections.

      In your little world, I'm sure that's how change always happens. However, that's only one way in which the populace can effect change. Remember little things like the Boston Tea Party? That involved disrupting the operations of a major shipping port. Perhaps another tiny little non-electon event called the American Revolution? At some point, the populace may wake up and find that their "representatives" are not. The votes in the houses of government already bought and paid for by corporate interests successfully buying legislation to keep money exactly where it is and out of your pockets.

      When the choice presented at election time is between two individuals who have already sold their integrity to the highest bidder, other means of expressing dissatisfaction are needed.

      That's different from shutting down a city or country until the government does what you want.

      Your inability to get a super double latte caffiene injection at the Starbucks of your choice and having to go around three blocks does not constitute "shutting down a city". Hyperbole won't help your argument any more than the strawmen you've been erecting.

      However, it [the minority] does not have the right to cause mass violence or economic hardship.

      That's a couple of rather disparate items to be throwing into the same list. I mean, it's almost as if you're equating your personal inconvenience with violence. Do you know anything about the protests you're objecting to? The only time I've heard of there being violence is when some group of your "correct thinking" friends picks a fight with them. You'd do better to object to the cost of those lattes that you're unable to get from your favorite chain shop than the protestors preventing you from getting there.

      The "American Way" that you so jingoistically claim to defend *is* the first amendment, where protest, including protests that block traffic and shut down freeways is very much a part of. At some point, my only remaining observation to a nimrod like yourself is that if you really want a police state where those annoying people complaining about things below your radar don't get to interfere with your day-to-day life, why don't you move to China where they've already got all of that?

      Personally, I'd prefer the US moved the other way, i.e. get rid of Tom Ridge and his neo-police state Homeland Defense organization. Put more limitations on the police in reaction to new technologies instead of less. But there isn't anyone on the ballot who represents that view, is there? So I guess that exhausts all of my options according to you...

      Regards,
      Ross

  8. You've reached the end of the internet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    And it is an USS Enterprise from reusable media. Nothing else to see, go on now...

    Really, go outside or read a book.

  9. DVDs? by maukdaddy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now, what in the hell could be made from a DVD? Borg ship perhaps?

    With some duct tape and an old towel MacGyver could make a gun!

    1. Re:DVDs? by Benm78 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      A 10-pack of CDR's in jewel cases resebles a cube quite well.. Finish the surfaces with some scrap PCB's and you'll have a fine desktop cube ;)

  10. Wait a minute by The+Analog+Kid · · Score: 5, Funny

    I just saw this on a message board, before it actually got to Slashdot. This is odd. Well once you get good at that then try this

    1. Re:Wait a minute by JanneM · · Score: 5, Funny

      Of course, it won't work the way it is described. The fly won't flap its wings as long as the feet have contact with something. You need to glue it on its stomach, with enough free space below to allow the legs to hang freely.

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    2. Re:Wait a minute by copper22 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Jeff Goldblum still has nightmares about this kind of thing.

    3. Re:Wait a minute by tinrobot · · Score: 4, Funny

      Someone who's actually done research on housefly powered airplanes... Welcome to Slashdot.

    4. Re:Wait a minute by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Someone who's actually done research on housefly powered airplanes

      No wonder slashdotters never get real dates :-)

    5. Re:Wait a minute by JanneM · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They jump.

      I'm serious. The wings are hardwired to work only when there is no touch sensing on the feet, so to get up in the air, they do a small jump. Once they clear the surface, the wings start. Conversely, to land, they need only touch a surface with the feet, and the wings stop.

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  11. Lovely! by trublaha · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wicked. No longer will my flatmate's tape-reel millenium falcon and punchcard x-wing dominate the living room.

  12. What are Mac useers supposed to do? by FosterKanig · · Score: 5, Funny

    For the first ever, I am mad that my Macs don't have floppy drives. Now how am I supposed to waste five minutes of my day?
    Oh, right. I forgot.
    Masturbate!

    1. Re:What are Mac useers supposed to do? by hexdcml · · Score: 3, Funny

      man, 5 minutes? my mac can do it in 2 ;)

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    2. Re:What are Mac useers supposed to do? by mister_jpeg · · Score: 2, Funny


      stupid useers.

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  13. Be honest now... by sdo1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    How many of you grabbed a floppy and ripped it apart within 1 minute of reading that page? Admit it. You know you did.

    -S

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    1. Re:Be honest now... by Griim · · Score: 2, Funny

      As such, I am missing the little wing tips from the model

      "Captain, the nacells have been sheerd off from the force of the [TECH]!"

  14. Truly... by jptxs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    this is "stuff that matters"!

    It's exactly the antidote to a morning of reading the news from around the world...

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  15. woohoo by croddy · · Score: 5, Funny
  16. News for Nerds ... by DaneelGiskard · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... Stuff that matters.

    Uh...

  17. It doesn't work on all floppys by f0x+0f+y0rk · · Score: 2, Informative

    I made one as soon as I read the post... only to discover that the top didn't fit. If anyone else encounters this problem, just try folding the thin end of the floppy cover thingy (does it have a name?) in half.

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  18. Re:You know it's a really slow day when... by JanneM · · Score: 5, Funny

    yep. It was different in our day. We had no fancy networking; we'd _walk_ through a snowstorm to hand over floppies with the new slashdot content to each other. We had no shoes and it was always a head wind both ways. Just try telling the youngsters here; they refuse to believe you.

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  19. Slashdotted? Retaliation! by BlackHawk · · Score: 4, Funny


    <body>
    <center><h6>SLASHDOT SUCKS</h6></center>
    </body>
    </html>

    OK, this was an amusing method of dealing with the Slashdot Effect.

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  20. Great! by mivok · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now make 3 of these, and with the remaining plastic bit, you can make a borg cube to annoy your nice little fleet.
    Its still not a patch on putting cd's in the microwave and making pieces of art out of the interestingly patterned results.

    (I would make a comment about shoving the enterprise in the microwave and ion storms here, but thats going a bit too far)

  21. Main asciipr0n.com site... by Vengie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Now reads "Due to the people at slashdot.org linking to this site without asking the owners or the hosters, asciipr0n.com is offline until further notice. Maybe you guys should start mirroring the sites you link to..."
    Ouch!
    And the link from the article just reads "Slashdot Sucks"
    Thats what i get for reading articles i guess.

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  22. Competely offline now.... by LinuxGeek · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Due to the people at slashdot.org linking to this site without asking the owners or the hosters, asciipr0n.com is offline until further notice. Maybe you guys should start mirroring the sites you link to...


    I think they really, really, really didn't like finding out about the ./ effect completely unannounced. Can't say I blame them either. Smaller sites can end up with huge bandwidth bills in just a day and people have been asking for story mirrors for years now.
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  23. Re:Slashdot uses it's power unresponsibly by drone2113622 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, would have been nice if I (the hoster of asciipr0n.com) would have gotten some notice before being effectively DDoSed.

  24. Re:Slashdot uses it's power unresponsibly by interstellar_donkey · · Score: 2, Funny

    I too find it woefully irresponsable that small websites that can't handle traffic don't inform slashdot when they are shutting down right after slashdot links to them. It harms slashdot and all of their users. A little warning would be nice.

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  25. Missing a Step by telly333 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Important!

    Shouldnt the first step should be "back up your data"? Be forewarned - I lost a year of important financial statements by trying this stupid little "trick".....

    Seriously though, looks like all the Mac and (soon)Dell users are SOL on this one.

    Escape Pod out of a USB Pen Drive anyone?

  26. NCC-1701-D out of a floppy by Treeluvinhippy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Some additional instructions so you can make the U.S.S Enterprise 1701-D.

    Well first don't remove the media from the medal disk thingie.

    When the ship is assembled the media will cover the nacelles so just trim the saucer into an off-center oval with the metal disk thingie to one side.

    If done somewhat correctly the saucer section will now be in somewhat accurate proportions to the hull.

    As soon as I remeber where I put my camera, I will post some pics.

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  27. Re:LOL by drone2113622 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There's a difference in people coming to a site and people swamping somebody's bandwidth for what really amounts to nothing. If slashdot wants to mirror it, I don't care, just don't rape my bandwidth.

  28. Re:Slashdot uses it's power unresponsibly by Fastolfe · · Score: 3, Informative

    you have to anticipate getting linked from major news sites.

    Most major news sites will ask you before posting an article with a link to your site. I know this, because I've gotten asked by major news sites several times. (The exception to this rule was MSNBC, but go figure.)

    Site owners budget their hardware and network capacity to handle the traffic they expect (or empirically determine). If they can afford to budget for a traffic spike of three orders of magnitude, they may do that. But the "little guys" obviously do not necessarily have the funds to do that.

    With sufficient warning, the site owners might have been able to make arrangements in advance of the posting so their site could have survived.

    A mirror sounds like a perfect idea, and wouldn't even suffer the artificial problems presented in the FAQ if you did it right. All you need is Apache configured to be a caching HTTP proxy and a regular web server at the same time. Using the ProxyPass and ProxyPassReverse directives, it would appear to users like any other mirror, except it'd be using HTTP caching rules to specify what can and cannot be mirrored/cached. So long as sites are using good cache-control policies, they'd never get Slashdotted...

    Slashdot editors are just lazy.

  29. Re:LOL by Fastolfe · · Score: 4, Informative

    and the whole point is that people come and see it.

    Yes, and when the level of traffic spikes one day because of a Slashdot posting, and it makes your server and/or network link unable to service those requests, people will be unable to come and see it.

    put up a password site and only let in those that you want in.

    Or use an Apache::Throttle-type technique and limit the traffic to what your server and bandwidth is capable of. In this situation, they more or less did that (by hand), just by blocking the content that was being requested by the Slashdot readers. The rest of the site is up to service requests for "real" visitors.

    slashdot should mirror the pages - but that in itself is nearly as retarded as the first complaint.

    How is that retarded? It allows their article to remain available to Slashdot readers in the event the origin server is no longer able to serve it. Do you want an article with lots of interesting comments about a topic, or do you want an article with a bunch of comments saying "slashdotted!" A mirror would solve this problem. (A mirror can be created that doesn't suffer from the artificial problems discussed in the FAQ by combining a caching HTTP proxy with a web site front-end. To users it would appear as a mirror, but the server would treat it as a proxy, so it'd always be following HTTP caching rules and the site owner couldn't/wouldn't ever have grounds to complain.)

  30. Re:slashdot cache by Fastolfe · · Score: 4, Informative

    the fact is when a site is slashdotted nobody sees the ads

    The "we don't wanna cache" reasons given in the FAQ are mostly artificial. There's no technological reason behind their decision not to mirror sites.

    HTTP is designed such that resources can be cached. If they were to exploit that HTTP caching functionality and stick a mirror-like front-end on it, they could effectively cache most of the content and even preserve the ad-serving functionality of the target. (Assuming they had their cache-control headers set up properly.) To the site owner, they'd see a handful of their pages requested by the proxy, and a bazillion requests for their advertising (since that probably wouldn't be marked as cacheable). This is HTTP at work.

    Something like this has been suggested for a while, and nobody's ever really explained why this isn't workable. IMO, the Slashdot editors are just lazy/insufficiently staffed. (For the record, most major news sites will inform you when they're about to link to you.)

  31. Re:WHAAAAA! by drone2113622 · · Score: 2

    Ok, I'll go lease some rackspace in a nice multi-homed colo house and pay out the ass for bandwidth just so I can throw money away because of being put on slashdot. That sounds like a jolly time, jackass.

  32. Re:This page cannot be viewed without written cons by drone2113622 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The difference is two or three hundred views per day versus twenty thousand views in half an hour.

  33. Re:This page cannot be viewed without written cons by drone2113622 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You'd be proud until you saw the bandwidth bill. I don't give a shit if people look at it, I'd just like some common decency when sites that have a very very high readership, like slashdot, post a link to a site that's on a machine of mine. I highly doubt cnn.com would just blindly link to an external site knowing that the link would hit that site with boatloads of unexpected traffic. You're crazy to suggest that everybody that's ever put anything on the internet has taken into consideration getting a hundred thousand hits in one day, and that they should just smile and foot the bill for the bandwidth, happy as a damn lark.

  34. Sites slashdotted.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Due to the people at slashdot.org linking to this site without asking the owners or the hosters, asciipr0n.com is offline until further notice. Maybe you guys should start mirroring the sites you link to...

    1. Re:Sites slashdotted.. by Pharmboy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Maybe you guys should start mirroring the sites you link to...

      Which raises an interesting question: Should /. 'ask' permission to link? That seems to be what they are implying. I undertstand their frustration, but since when does any news agency (or quazi-news) ever ASK to point toward content? Anyone have an example?

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    2. Re:Sites slashdotted.. by circusnews · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Unless I am linking to another news site, or one I otherwise know can handle the load I do ask before I post a news link, and I have only a small fraction of the traffic ./ has. What good does it do my news site if the story I link to dies after 20 people click on it?

      Any slashcode people reading this, think about adding an automatic mirror, or at least a link to the google catch if avalible.

    3. Re:Sites slashdotted.. by Pharmboy · · Score: 3, Insightful
      You are right, its an interesting read. I did notice that the author disagrees completely with you tho...

      I don't belive that people should have to get permission to link to another site, in general. If you put something on the Web without putting a password on it or whatever, you're explicitly allowing others to link to it -- at least in my opinion.

      ...but not to worry. It is the proverbial 'Does the tree make a sound in the woods' question, every answer is right and wrong :) good read, wish you hadnt posted as AC so more would see it linked here.

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    4. Re:Sites slashdotted.. by PlazMatiC · · Score: 2, Informative

      I don't belive that people should have to get permission to link to another site, in general. If you put something on the Web without putting a password on it or whatever, you're explicitly allowing others to link to it -- at least in my opinion.

      To an extent, I agree with him.
      However, Slashdot linking to someone in an article is far different to an average netzien linking from their blog. I think that given the amount of power Slashdot and similar sites wield, courtesy would suggest that they make sure they're not going to majorly inconvenience the owner of the site they're planning on linking to.

      wish you hadnt posted as AC

      Likewise .. I posted from my work PC, and didn't realise I hadn't logged in first. ;)

  35. Re:ERm? by polin8 · · Score: 5, Funny

    A significantly improved model of Cat.

    The new CAT-5 never claws your drapes, and eats DOG-1 for breakfast.

  36. Slashdot so naughty. by IIOIOOIOO · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A lot. Slashdot will never provide mirrors of the sites that they crush though. Why? Certainly not because of all of the technical issues listed in the FAQ... not even because of laziness. The simple reason is money. With a single post on slashdot being able to rapidly crush the allotted bandwidth of a midsize site, can you imagine the cost if Slashdot had to pay for all that bandwidth themselves? Furthermore, Slashdot can ONLY make money by collecting ad revenues for content links, without ever having to generate/host any content themselves. I.E. 1) Some guy put's a funny thing on the internet for his small loyal band of friends/admirers to laugh at. 2) Slashdot posts it, in order to generate more pageloads on their site for viewing the story and comments on the story. 3) The burden/cost of serving the content is born by the third party, who is often times noncommercial, and in some cases bears an EXTREME cost for exceeding his allotted bandwidth. 4) Slashdot makes money, the person who provides the content to allow them to do so loses out. 5) I imagine it's only a matter of time before the first person decides to do the research and find an approach which would allow suit for damages. In summary, Slashdot's business model as a .COM instead of a .ORG is grossly abusive. Think of it as a grand version of those people who build a porn site entirely from offsite image links. Were I a webmaster with anything accessible to the public, I would definitely reconfigure my server to redirect anyone with a referer from Slashdot to a very tiny ascii picture of my wang. Of course, this doesn't mean I'll stop reading :)

    1. Re:Slashdot so naughty. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      > I would definitely reconfigure my server to redirect anyone with a referer from Slashdot to a very tiny ascii picture of my wang.

      That would be actual size, right?

    2. Re:Slashdot so naughty. by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The other reason is legal. If /. started mirroring sites you're bound to have some guy saying 'site down since /. is mirroring without permission, followed by the cease and disist'.

      You can't please everyone. BTW no body expects to be /.ed, but nor should the expect that it won't be.

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    3. Re:Slashdot so naughty. by Hard_Code · · Score: 4, Funny

      "I would definitely reconfigure my server to redirect anyone with a referer from Slashdot to a very tiny ascii picture of my wang."

      You mean, like this?

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  37. Re:ERm? by tijnbraun · · Score: 2, Informative
  38. Re:ERm? by Smurf · · Score: 2, Insightful
    What are CAT 5's?
    A few of the non-assholes here already answered your question. But in the future, you may want to have TechWeb's TechEncyclopedia handy for simple definitions related to basic technology/computers/communications concepts.
  39. The anatomy of a Slashdotting by Leeji · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Thanks for this mirror. When I saw how light the page was, I wondered how the site could have been slashdotted. Well, this is how:

    1. Page weight (HTML + Graphics): 43kb = 0.043 Mb)
    2. Slashdot serves 50,000,000 pages per month according to the Slashdot FAQ
    3. 50,000,000 pages per month = 138,888 pages per hour (assuming peak hours get 1/12 of the the daily traffic.)
    4. This page got slashdotted in about 1 hour.
    5. If every /. page view during that hour clicked through, this site served 0.043Mb * 138,888 = 5972 Mb.

    This is still waaay under the bandwidth caps of most hosting accounts, but is probably more than anybody wants to serve in an hour. You've still got the rest of the month to go!

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  40. What is up with /.'ed webmasters? by smoondog · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't get it. These guys put up a site, /. links to it, the site goes down do to heavy traffic. Perhaps they shouldn't have put the site up in the first place? The web is a *public* place folks. If they wanted to prevent it, they should've password protected it.

    Anyways, I think it is funny that these guys act like /. has prevented viewing of important stuff.

    -Sean

    1. Re:What is up with /.'ed webmasters? by mcspock · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sure, it's a public place. Like a public park. It's nice to walk down to a public park, play on the swings, etc.

      Imagine going down to your neighborhood park and finding 500,000 people jumping up and down. Sure, it's a public place, but it wasn't designed for that. It was designed for 50 or 100 people to hang out for a bit, and move on.

      If you think about it a bit more though, this is like someone's back yard. This guy has to pay for bandwidth. He's got a sign saying "sure, come in, sit down for a bit". It's not public, it's private, and he's being generous in letting people use it, but that generocity is abused when slashdot decides to pour people all over his site.

      Last example. Think of public marches. The roads are owned by the people, and it's perfectly acceptable for 50,000 people to march through downtown seattle, with streets closed down. BUT, before they can do that, they have to ask permission and obtain a permit from the city. It's simple consideration for others before taking for yourself.

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    2. Re:What is up with /.'ed webmasters? by smoondog · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you think about it a bit more though, this is like someone's back yard. This guy has to pay for bandwidth.

      The problem is that the web isn't someone's backyard. It is something quite different. 1) It takes very little effort for someone to visit the site and 2) the concept of linking is very different and enables this activity so easily a website should expect this.

      I do think however, that there could be a way to opt out. Perhaps something equivalent to the robots.txt file? Either the linking body or the web server could control how clients connect, particularly with respect to linked referrals.

      -Sean

    3. Re:What is up with /.'ed webmasters? by smoondog · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I know this is a unique concept to you, the ignorant end-surfer

      (Looks like the social skills of /. are pretty much the same as they always were) Anyways, my point stands. You put something online, you get lots of traffic, you better be able to deal with the consequences.

      There is a responsibility associated with putting something online. You should be able to deal with such issues as lots of traffic, being sued, slander, etc. If you can't, don't put it online. Some people seem to think that because they are in high school, their entire world should function like they are in high school. The internet is the real world, and webmasters should treat it as such.

      -Sean

    4. Re:What is up with /.'ed webmasters? by Nkwe · · Score: 2, Informative

      Reality is that it's the Internet. Unless you put controls on your site, you don't have any control or say over who can access it when, or how often. If you choose to host on a metered service and you don't have a budget for spikes, then it is your responsibility to meter your website. Have your web server stop serving pages after you have meet your budget. You signed the contract with your ISP, it is your responsibility. If your web site isn't really public, then put a password on it.

  41. Links are what the internet is about by nano-second · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sorry but thems the breaks. You don't have to ask to link to someone's page. If you put up something in public space, people are free to link to it. I thought most services just refused access to your page if you went over your bandwidth anyways.

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  42. you are SO asking for it... by Jedi+Alec · · Score: 5, Funny

    If one more IRC fuck-stick uses /me again I'm gonna hunt them down and bitch-slap them.

    /me hands btlzu2 a trout

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  43. Not work safe by babbage · · Score: 3, Funny

    If you're tempted to do something like this at work, be aware that your cow-orkers may make fun of you over this. Be ready to defend your Trekliness if fighting breaks out. And by all means, if you do respond to any teasing for your devotion to all things Trek, please make sure that your cow-orkers know who to forward the mail to. The world will thank you :-)

  44. mirror by Monkey · · Score: 2, Informative

    Here's a link to how to make it on this Geoshitties page.

  45. Re:Coasters? by Alien+Being · · Score: 2, Funny

    Set the oven for 'warp' factor 9.

  46. Slashdot Effect is named that for a reason. by MisterSquid · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The difference between CNN linking to a site and /. linking to a site is that there is no such thing as the "CNN Effect" while the "Slashdot Effect" is such a well-known phenomenon it has been written up by a university physicist.

    We're not talking an occasional spike in traffic: everytime /. links to an article, that site is hit and hit hard. With the current linking policy (i.e. none), /. inadvertently becomes a DoS portal with us slashdrones the zombified clients.

    /. should have taken care of this a long time ago.

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  47. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  48. We need a "post to journal" feature by Mustang+Matt · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've suggested this but Taco Shot it down.
    I personally think every story posted should go into a users journal.

    That way people can develop fan clubs and post good info all day long instead of being shot down by the editors.

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  49. Re:slashdot cache by Fastolfe · · Score: 2, Informative

    mirroring a site qualifies as republishing that site, which is generally considered a violation of copyright law.

    If you're publishing a document through HTTP, you are implicitly agreeing to allow your document to be redistributed as the HTTP specification designed. If your web site is providing a document, and providing cache-control headers that indicate that document will not change in the next 5 minutes, you are implicitly allowing for servers acting as caching HTTP proxies to cache that document and serve it up to clients that request it, until that 5 minutes expires and the proxy has to re-request (or just re-validate) it.

    If your "mirror" acts as a caching HTTP proxy, in that it's following the HTTP caching specifications, there are no legal issues whatsoever.

    If someone wishes to defeat the mechanism, all they have to do is express a "no-cache" cache-control header, and the "mirror" ceases to function as a caching proxy.

    if you don't want anybody to see your website, what the heck are you doing publishing a website to begin with?

    They do want people to see their site. When Slashdot readers bring it down due to the large volume of requests, nobody can see their site. In order to restore service, they have to somehow mitigate the damage, which I believe these guys did by taking the page down. Their site recovered.

    I fail to see why Slashdot should be held responsible

    I look at the situation differently than you do. I'm not holding Slashdot "responsible" so much as I'd like to see Slashdot be a little more courteous towards those that they link to, and towards the readership who might like to read the articles Slashdot is linking to.

    The mirror/cache idea is meant to combat the availability issue. I'm not trying to save the site owner so much as I'm pushing for a way that Slashdot readers can still have access to the articles. The result is the same, but my motive is a little more selfish.

  50. Re:CmdrTaco by anubi · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Ummm. Its Sunday Morning. Who's around to talk to?

    So CmdrTaco picks a sleepy Sunday Morning to /. a site. Well, it is disseminating information to individuals; each had to click on it to get it. All CmdrTaco did was to bring the link into public view. Kinda the same thing businesses pay advertising agencies big bux for. If the site admin does not want the publicity, no biggie, but blame CmdrTaco for it?? nah. Not in my book. Not at all.

    Its well known in the /. community that /. is extremely current; that is that things often get on the system within hours, if not minutes, of its occurrence, often beating out other well-known news agencies, as the very people involved in making the news are often /.'ers themselves.

    Well, its a public site. The sysadmin has the option of closing his site if he's getting far more traffic than he wants. No biggie. Just bookmark the site and visit later when the hordes are gone. Sports venues do this all the time when traffic exceeds capacity. Its called "sold out".

    You usually put stuff on the net if you want to expose it publically. I think CmdrTaco did them a service by exposing it to /.'ers. I can not find /.'ing a site any more offensive than storming a Burger King with several busloads of kids during a summer outing. ( Yes, I've done that. )

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  51. Re:ERm? by bluephone · · Score: 2

    How can you have a userID number below 150k and not know what Cat5 is? :)

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  52. Re:Sigh...Slashdot Editors strike again by RumpledElf · · Score: 2, Funny

    This happens all the time. While slashdot itself doesn't mirror, ever noticed that several readers may mirror the article/whatever so *we* still get to read it while the original site owner is off trying to sell their children to pay for the bandwidth bill. Mirroring by proxy, basically.

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  53. Slashdot should embrace P2P by Enrico+Pulatzo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Everyone's griping about the whole mirroring situation and lack of a policy.

    This story presented a good way for ISOs to be distributed.

    Everyone and their grandma is looking for a way to "legitimize" P2P sharing without involving music.

    Why doesn't slashdot start a P2P mirror. Simple gzip the page that's cool to look at, and host it via bittorrent or kazaa. Bandwidth gets shared among the slashdot community, and no site gets hit too hard (except google, which will invaribly be linked to by people who insist on posting google cache links in nearly every discussion ;) Sound good?

  54. Pfft. That's nothing... by ilumits · · Score: 2, Funny

    I just made a Klingon battle cruiser out of an old Zip® disk. Picture below:

















    Woops. I guess it's cloaked.