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pc-0x90 writes "In Canada, when engineers finish their undergraduate degree, they attend a ceremony referred to as Kipling. Alongside the formal ceremony are the kipling pranks. This year, the Software Engineers at McMaster University designed a life sized Pac-Man board, thus answering the question of whether or not software engineering is in fact engineering."

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  1. Life sized? by SN74S181 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What is the scale of PacMan in real life??

    1. Re:Life sized? by echucker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      According to those particular engineers, "life-sized" simply meant a convenient scale. In this case, it was the floor tiles, which appear to be roughly 12 by 18 inches.

    2. Re:Life sized? by wwwillem · · Score: 1

      Not talking about the Pac-Man floor, but about the web-site, if this is the level of web-page design students nowadays learn in university, well......

      It demonstrates the horrible side of today's megapixel camera's: people even think that you should post those 'greater than life' (ehhh, 'bigger than my window') pictures on a website.

      Hey guys, ever heard about thumbnails? Probably not, because as far as I noticed, there were no girls around.....

      --
      Browsers shouldn't have a back button!! It's all about going forward...
    3. Re:Life sized? by ohhmyhead · · Score: 1

      most people who are interested in doing anything remotely interesting, unique, or even practical with the design of a webpage will have taken a class or (more likely) taught themselves long before they reach college. it's just the way of the current culture.

      --
      porting code from csound to supercollider in high heels.
    4. Re:Life sized? by vrmlknight · · Score: 1

      i dunno how big are ghosts?

      --
      This must be Thursday, I never could get the hang of Thursdays.
  2. That's a let down by donscarletti · · Score: 5, Funny

    What I really wanted to see was the space distorters making it possible to wrap around to the other side after crossing the outer border.

    --
    When Argumentum ad Hominem falls short, try Argumentum ad Matrem
    1. Re:That's a let down by Dark+Nexus · · Score: 1

      I think that'd probably be engineering physics, not software engineering.

      Maybe with some electrical engineers to actually build them after Eng Phys figures it out.

      --
      Dark Nexus
      "Sanity is calming, but madness is more interesting."
  3. The music still haunts me by peterjhill2002 · · Score: 1

    I was hoping for something more 3-D, but it is still cool. Who get's to play the ghosts? They can put some red bull cans where the super-dots are and have alot of fun, well maybe not alot of fun, but at least some.

  4. Mmm Punk Rock Pac Man by Orcspit · · Score: 1

    Gotta love the 80's teenage radicle Pac Man.

    1. Re:Mmm Punk Rock Pac Man by Orcspit · · Score: 1

      errr...umm...Radical. Spelling is our friend.

    2. Re:Mmm Punk Rock Pac Man by gilesjuk · · Score: 2, Interesting

      AKA Puc Man in Japan. They renamed it to Pac in the western world due to the typeface used on the cabinet. The black outline of the typeface made it very easy to change the P to an F with a carefully placed strip of black sticky tape :)

  5. Obligatory Quote by mikeophile · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pac Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive music."

    1. Re:Obligatory Quote by meowsqueak · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's common courtesy to acknowledge the source of a quote, rather than try and pass it off as your own - in this case Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989.

      The main point about this quote is that it was made some time before the 'raves' of the 1990's became popular, and in hindsight is therefore interesting and somewhat amusing. Although I suspect Wilson realised the irony at the time.

    2. Re:Obligatory Quote by mikeophile · · Score: 1

      I didn't try to pass it off as my own. I just couldn't find an attribution in the eight seconds of google it took to find it. Thanks for the info.

    3. Re:Obligatory Quote by Troed · · Score: 1
      London, Docklands, before -90, "raves".


      The style of the music was called "Acid"


      I would've understood the sarcasm of that joke in -89, so Kristian Wilson could surely have come up with it then also.

    4. Re:Obligatory Quote by chrisseaton · · Score: 3, Funny

      I take it you were dropped on your head as a small child.

    5. Re:Obligatory Quote by easyfrag · · Score: 1
      " It's common courtesy to acknowledge the source of a quote, rather than try and pass it off as your own - in this case Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989."


      In his defence he did put quotations around it, even if he never attributed to "unknown". I don't think many people put quotes around their own work.

    6. Re:Obligatory Quote by jred · · Score: 2, Funny

      Maybe he's one of those really annoying people who talk about themselves in third person. One of those jerks would probably "quote" themselves.

      --

      jred
      I'm not a mechanic but I play one in my garage...
    7. Re:Obligatory Quote by TheLink · · Score: 1

      If I had mod points I'd have modded Chris as insightful/funny.

      Unfortunately I found your post a bit too long to be funny as well.

      Maybe if you worked a bit more on your content and delivery?

      --
    8. Re:Obligatory Quote by error0x100 · · Score: 1

      Although you didn't attribute the source, the fact that you titled the post "Obligatory post" made it completely obvious (to anyone with > 2 brain cells) that you weren't trying to pass it off as your own.

    9. Re:Obligatory Quote by error0x100 · · Score: 1

      Crap.. obligatory POST?!? I meant, "Obligatory post^H^H^H^HQuote". Dammit, almost did it again. I would like to claim that this will cause me to "use the preview next time", but I know it won't.

    10. Re:Obligatory Quote by zealot · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure that this is one of those quotes that's been debunked as not being true. Unfortuantely, so many people quote it that when I search I can't find any pages refuting it. Of course, no guarantee they'd be correct anyway.

      --
      He said, "You'll be able to tell your grandchildren that you helped assemble the first NT supercomputer," and I cringed.
    11. Re:Obligatory Quote by iamdrscience · · Score: 1

      regardless of whther it's been debunked or not, it would still be an amusing quote.

    12. Re:Obligatory Quote by chrisseaton · · Score: 1

      Nope. My sense of sarcasm is intact.

      The poster I originally insulted was actually insulting someone else in the same way. Like you just did.

      Retard.

    13. Re:Obligatory Quote by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      You mean like when I am talking about my "lazer"?

    14. Re:Obligatory Quote by meowsqueak · · Score: 1

      I completely agree:

      "Although I suspect Wilson realised the irony at the time."

    15. Re:Obligatory Quote by S.O.B. · · Score: 1

      No. It's MY "laser".

      --
      Some of what I say is fact, some is conjecture, the rest I'm just blowing out my ass...you guess.
    16. Re:Obligatory Quote by asciirock · · Score: 1

      >Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc, 1989.

      I'm amazed that it didn't show up on the net for another ten years. The first time that PacMan quote appeared on Usenet was in 2000 according to google:

      bleeders@btinternet.com post

    17. Re:Obligatory Quote by Bob+Cat+-+NYMPHS · · Score: 1

      >It's common courtesy to acknowledge the source of a quote

      It's even better to be right when you yell at someone else for being wrong.

      http://www.marcusbrigstocke.com/pacman.asp

    18. Re:Obligatory Quote by kubrick · · Score: 1

      The main point about this quote is that it was made some time before the 'raves' of the 1990's became popular

      The Ecstasy 'Summer of Love' was in the UK in 1988, wasn't it?

      --
      deus does not exist but if he does
    19. Re:Obligatory Quote by Nastard · · Score: 1

      Someone mod this up. Nobody else got the source correct.

    20. Re:Obligatory Quote by barnaclebarnes · · Score: 1

      You would be correct. But come on, most readers are probably American where 'Electronica' only reall started to catch on with FatBoy Slim and late era Prodigy. Although I cannot say I was part of the scene (I was 17 and living in NZ at the time), I remeber reading about rave cuture and listening to Acid House then.

      Those were they days...The music just ain't the same now ;-)

      --
      [Please type your sig here.]
    21. Re:Obligatory Quote by tgrigsby · · Score: 1

      Thrown in lasers and it sounds like a rave to me...

      --
      *** *** You're just jealous 'cause the voices talk to me... ***
  6. I shall remain skeptical... by more+fool+you · · Score: 5, Funny

    until they figure out how to make pacman appear on the left hand side of the maze after disappearing from the right hand side.

    1. Re:I shall remain skeptical... by SomeGuyFromCA · · Score: 1

      Simple. Draw the maze on the surface of a cylinder.

      (It's been 8 seconds since you hit 'reply'!)

      --
      if the answer isn't violence, neither is your silence / freedom of expression doesn't make it alright
  7. Slashdotted by Yo+Grark · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "thus answering the question of whether or not software engineering is in fact engineering."

    Well it certainly answered whether a Canadian University could withstand a slashdotting after 2 posts :/

    Yo Grark
    Canadian Bred with American Buttering

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    Canadian Bred with American Buttering
    1. Re:Slashdotted by DrWhizBang · · Score: 4, Funny

      perhaps their webserver is also held together with duct tape?

      --
      Schrodinger's cat is either dead or really pissed off...
    2. Re:Slashdotted by MaestroRC · · Score: 1

      Another mirror available here.

      I survived one slashdotting already, who thinks it can take another? No takers? Awww.... come on!

      Really though, try me ;-P

      --
      I hate sigs...
    3. Re:Slashdotted by pc-0x90 · · Score: 1

      fwiw, the server didn't melt, but the net admins disabled external network access. This probably doesn't matter to most slashdot readers, but for students frantically trying to get exam notes they can access the necessary material by going into the school labs, or connecting to another server w/ remote access (then running a browser from there). I would have posted this earlier, but my cable modem choked this morning too.. Karma on Slashdot: Positive Karma in life: Negative

    4. Re:Slashdotted by ckedge · · Score: 1

      This is spectacular. It allows those of us who can mirror it, to mirror it and add our mirror to a central list without having to post our own "mirror here" message.

      It should be provided on the right hand side "Related Links" by Slashdot, even before there are mirrors added.

    5. Re:Slashdotted by 2nesser · · Score: 1

      FWIW, the server that was allegedly slashdotted (but really wasn't, the school shut of port 80 because of excessive outgoing traffic, really a marvel that Computing and Information Services monitors the network so well) is a...

      [nesscg@ritchie nesscg] echo $MACHTYPE
      sparc-sun-solaris

      We don't mess around, the server can handle it.
      That is all.

  8. mirror by RobertTaylor · · Score: 3, Informative

    mirror for the page at the authors other site here

    1. Re:mirror by quantaman · · Score: 2, Funny

      This wasn't supposed to support the brunt of slashdot, as I was assured that cas could handle it. Come back tomorrow.

      Well one mirror down... Any more volunteers?

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      I stole this Sig
  9. Wait a minute... by Chewster · · Score: 5, Funny

    There's only 3 ghosts!! Kids today... they don't pay attention to details.

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    ---- Meh.
  10. Typical Canadian prank... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Note that they asked the security guard for permission... and they likely cleaned up after themselves too... sheesh...

    1. Re:Typical Canadian prank... by MCS · · Score: 1

      Actually its still there...

    2. Re:Typical Canadian prank... by MCS · · Score: 1

      To revise my earlier statement then--- It was still there when I was in the MUSC on Thursday.

  11. 20 or so people? by king_penguin_05 · · Score: 5, Funny

    They know exactly how much tape they used, but they don't know how many people were there making it.

    --
    "I can't drive 55. It only goes 38."
    1. Re:20 or so people? by Kwil · · Score: 1

      Further engineering proof.
      Material consumption is important.
      People can be employed or let go as the need arises, so not as critical. :)

      --

      That Jesus Christ guy is getting some terrible lag... it took him 3 days to respawn! -NJ CoolBreeze

  12. Hrmm by Jade+E.+2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    With that much duct tape, you think they'd be able to piece together a server that wouldn't be slashdotted so fast...

  13. What do you get... by MikeDX · · Score: 1

    Q: What do you get when you take roughly 20 Software Engineers, 225 meters of blue duct tape, 240 beer coasters, 4 America Online CDs and far too much free time?

    A: A labotomy? :)

    1. Re:What do you get... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I see you've been through one. Lobotomy.

    2. Re:What do you get... by MikeDX · · Score: 1

      Science LABotomy... Science students... ah forget it :)

  14. What's the connection? by Chris+Z.+Wintrowski · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "...This year, the Software Engineers at McMaster University designed a life sized Pac-Man board, thus answering the question of whether or not software engineering is in fact engineering."


    I fail to see how the design of a massive Pac-Man board is, in any way, related to the *art* of designing good software.

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    1. Re:What's the connection? by einhverfr · · Score: 1

      I fail to see how the design of a massive Pac-Man board is, in any way, related to the *art* of designing good software.

      1: Attention to detail

      2: Humor

      3: Problem solving

      Are these enough reasons?

      --

      LedgerSMB: Open source Accounting/ERP
    2. Re:What's the connection? by Radical+Rad · · Score: 2, Funny
      "thus answering the question of whether or not software engineering is in fact engineering."

      I fail to see how the design of a massive Pac-Man board is, in any way, related to the *art* of designing good software.

      It answered the question. The answer was 'No'.

  15. Sarcasm. by Unknown+Poltroon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Main Entry: sarcasm
    Pronunciation: 'sär-"ka-z&m
    Function: noun
    Etymology: French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwar&s- to cut
    Date: 1550
    1 : a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain
    2 a : a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b : the use or language of sarcasm
    synonym see WIT

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  16. wait .. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    .. 20 Software Engineers .. and far too much free time?

    which software engineer has far too much free time? the fired ones?

    1. Re:wait .. by smithmc · · Score: 1


      Oh come on, any SW manager will tell you that any developer always has enough "free time" to squeeze in one more project.

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      Downmodding is the refuge of the weak. Don't downmod, make a better argument!
  17. The webpage got slashdotted by termos · · Score: 5, Informative

    Since the original webpage got slashdottet I set up a "mirror", it's on a 100mbps connection. (not much when we have a slashdot effect in the picture)
    http://skall.no/~termos/pacman/

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    Note to self: get smarter troll to guard door.
    1. Re:The webpage got slashdotted by shadowbearer · · Score: 2, Funny

      "it's on a 100mbps connection"

      *and your* little server too! Muwhahahahaha!

      (now where the heck did I put my enchanted broomstick? Wicked Witch Need Coffee)

      --
      It's old. The more humans I meet, the more I like my cats. At least they are honest.
    2. Re:The webpage got slashdotted by brejc8 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Here are some more mirrors to releave the pressure.

  18. Re:the only redeeming feature... by meowsqueak · · Score: 2, Funny

    You finally regretting that Arts degree huh?

  19. Why... by c_oflynn · · Score: 1

    Are these '1337' software engineers not capable of running a webserver that doesn't get slashdotted so fast!?

  20. Robotics? by Arc04 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They should now team up with the Robotics students to make a pacman robot that follows the maze and 'eats' the 'pills'.

    Now THAT would be *very* cool!!!

    1. Re:Robotics? by damien_kane · · Score: 1

      I'm sure most of the students would eat the 'pills' themselves... I went to a comp & netwroking colllege in Toronto here, and by the 6th week of school, half of the students I started with were pretty much addicted to e.

    2. Re:Robotics? by Wavicle · · Score: 1

      I didn't realize they taught much calculus at those colleges.

      --
      Education is a better safeguard of liberty than a standing army.
      Edward Everett (1794 - 1865)
  21. Silly Canadians by isa-kuruption · · Score: 1, Funny

    Eh?

  22. Kipling? by djRobbieB · · Score: 2, Informative

    We referred to it as the Iron Ring ceremony at Queen's.

    1. Re:Kipling? by legolas · · Score: 5, Informative

      I believe it's called the Iron Ring ceremony everywhere. Shorely someone is confused, as Rudyard Kipling was the author of the ceremony.

      Also, this Computer and Software Engineering seems to be part of McMaster's engineering department, as opposed to a misnamed Computer Science degree.

      -legolas

    2. Re:Kipling? by MCS · · Score: 1

      I'm starting to sound like a broken record here....
      McMaster has a day called Kipling.

      Early Kipling morning graduating classes leave there mark on the school in the form of a prank. Some last longers then other (I.E. The hanging car lasted about a week, while the cement desk is still in use).

      During the afternoon they have there Iron Ring Ceremony, followed by the Kipling socail event.

      Relevant links:
      Kipling 2003
      MES brief kipling write up

      mcs
      sfwr eng & scty III

    3. Re:Kipling? by legolas · · Score: 1

      You're right... you are sounding like a broken record. :)

      The story said "a ceremony referred to as Kipling", not "a pre/post iron ring ceremony social activity referred to as Kipling".

      Anyways, Dalhousie is boring, and all we get is a post-iron ring exam crunch. :/ It doesn't help that somebody decided that 6 courses per term is a resonable work load.

      -legolas

    4. Re:Kipling? by lepton+noodle · · Score: 1

      Calling it the Iron Ring ceremony is more accurate than calling it "The Kipling". However when I went through the ceremony, I believe the formal name for it was "The Ritual of the Calling of the Engineer".

    5. Re:Kipling? by semeniuk · · Score: 1

      I've always heard of it called the Iron Ring Ceremony. At least that's what we call it at Camp #6 (University of Alberta).

      Perhaps McMaster are the only ones who refer to it as Kipling ...

    6. Re:Kipling? by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 3, Informative

      I at another Ontario University in ENGG. We also refer to it as the iron ring although, as others have pointed out, Rudyard Kipling (author of 'The Jungle Book') was the author of 'The Calling Of The Engineer'.

    7. Re:Kipling? by Axiom_D · · Score: 1

      Just to sort this all out.

      The only school to name any event after Kipling is Mac. Everybody else has their own little thing but it usually involves the name Iron Ring.

      At Waterloo it's called IRS and IRC. Iron Ring Stag and Iron Ring Ceremony. The stag is a massive party.

      Most Canadian schools have almost the exact same ceremony, but one of the strangest practices of all is at Western where their calling is open to the public.

      And everybody has the post IR exam crunch. I actually had an exam the next day after mine. And I was running the event!

  23. Be great if by bace · · Score: 1

    some one could figure a way to turn this into something like one of those big chess boards you see in some public parks. They brought chess to the pc why not bring pac man into the physical world?

    --
    =If life was easy, i would be out of a job=
  24. if only I had known by Keebler71 · · Score: 5, Funny

    If only I had know that to be respected by Slashdot as an "engineer" all I needed was some some tape! Would have saved me a lot of time and effort.

    --
    "It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance." - Thomas Sowell
    1. Re:if only I had known by jred · · Score: 4, Funny

      Cool! That means I'm an automotive engineer! My gf calls my car the Ductmobile, since so much of the roof is covered w/ duct tape. Hey, it keeps the water out.

      Note to everyone: if you ever buy a used car with a vinyl top, make sure the top is in good condition. If not, you're likely to find palm-sized rust holes underneath.

      --

      jred
      I'm not a mechanic but I play one in my garage...
    2. Re:if only I had known by Peale · · Score: 1

      Not just tape; duct tape, the god of all other tape.

    3. Re:if only I had known by Wavicle · · Score: 1

      Hey, it keeps the water out.

      You must be very sauve. Normally I'd think it'd keep the girls out too. Didn't Adam Sandler write a song about this?

      --
      Education is a better safeguard of liberty than a standing army.
      Edward Everett (1794 - 1865)
    4. Re:if only I had known by jred · · Score: 1

      Nah, not suave. I cheated. When we first started dating, I was driving a Cadillac. A '79 Coupe DeVille, but still a Caddy :)

      Seriously, though, I use the old standbys: Good personality, good sense of humor, decent looks, respect :)

      --

      jred
      I'm not a mechanic but I play one in my garage...
  25. First-hand experience. by michaeli · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Woooh!!! Ok, gotta get over my excitement -- it's not everyday that I find an article relating to something that took place in a building no more than 300m away from my bedroom. I go to McMaster and have actually walked on said Pac-Man board.

    Generally the Kipling pranks here at Mac are rather well-done (cars are a common theme -- putting them on roofs, hanging them on sides of buildings, etc.) but this year things were slightly lackluster, if you will. I may have just not been out before some got taken down, who knows. That said, the Pac-Man board is still around (I've been in my room for a few days, so I don't know for sure) and still looks impressive.

    There was a comment questioning the "life-sizedness" of the board, and being 6'1", 200lbs. I can say I fit most comfortably in the maze. The dots may have been slightly insubstantial for consumption (they were only the labels off beer, not the actual product itself... damn Engineers probably drank it all before hand, come to think of it) and the aliens/ghosts (please, no flames from those who know Pac-Man far better than I and who think I'm an idiot for not knowing at the very least what those things are called) weren't so large as to be intimidating. Other than that the "life-sized" label fits very well (they didn't just follow the pattern of the floor tiles, as this post suggested -- it's all measured out on their own scale).

    I'm going to have to run over to the Computer department after I finish studying for this exam and observe the smoulding hulk of server that I'm sure now exists :). Wheee, what a fun day already, and all because of slashdot!

    Adam, I don't know if you read slashdot, but my compliments on the good work. That and nice pics.

    --


    "this is a really good piece of cantoloupe."
    1. Re:First-hand experience. by Colz+Grigor · · Score: 2, Informative
      They're ghosts.

      Inky, Blinky, Pinky, and Clyde, if memory serves me right.

      No flames, just edification.

      ::Colz Grigor

  26. Kipling?!? by aclarke · · Score: 1

    OK granted I wasn't the MOST involved in social activities, but when I graduated with a degree in Civil Engineering from the University of Waterloo (1-2 hours away from McMaster, in Southern Ontario) 7 years ago, I never HEARD of any "Kipling" ceremony.

    We had the IRS (Iron Ring Stag), and the Iron Ring Ceremony, and of course graduation, but that's all *I* recall...

    1. Re:Kipling?!? by MCS · · Score: 1

      IRS is the Waterloo thing, at McMaster we have Kipling-- named after R. Kipling (jungle book fame) who also came up with the Iron symbolism/ceremony for the Canadian Engineering.

      You call yours IRS, we calls ours Kipling, and I'm sure UofT calls there some 'kewl'-ly spelt word.

    2. Re:Kipling?!? by RobinH · · Score: 1

      If you're one of the keener nerds that hangs out in POETS or the Orifice all the time.

      Ok, I was one of those guys.

      I've been away from Waterloo for a little bit now... anyone who attends right now - what happened to the countdown clock in POETS? I was the one who built it back for the countdown to IRS 2000 (with some help from Matt, of course) for my class: 2000 Com-E's!!! It was about $50 worth of parts, mostly LED's, some shift registers, and a PIC 16C84 microcontroller.

      Anyway, I'm sure it stopped working by now, so I was wondering, how long did it last? Probably got beer spilled on it or something.

      --
      "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain
    3. Re:Kipling?!? by stakman · · Score: 1

      it's still there.. they reset it every year to count down to the next IRS

    4. Re:Kipling?!? by RobinH · · Score: 1

      it's still there.. they reset it every year to count down to the next IRS

      No kidding? Wow! There's a picture of it in my yearbook... I'll have to dig it out for nostalgia. I wasn't actually there when it counted down to zero in 2000 because I was at the Iron Ring Ceremony.

      You made an alumni very happy - thanks for the update!

      --
      "I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain
  27. SFWR Kipling @ Mac... by 2nesser · · Score: 3, Interesting

    was by far the best this year. Not only was there the pac man board in the student centre, but the SFWR Graveyard was great too (although, politically, with everything going on in the world, I think some of the crazy artsies may have been offended - or mistook the prank for a political stance, meh).

    The Graveyard was everything that a Software Engineer lays dead to the world after 4 years. For example the ablility to pick up women, Hit by bus error, Deadlock because "Has X waiting for Y" was buried right beside "Has Y waiting for X", and from all the exams we have no chance in ever passing we bury our anal viginity.

    Good-bye www.eng.mcmaster.ca Slashdot now has a hold of you, fair well.

  28. Not to diss them but... by yuvtob · · Score: 5, Funny

    This McMaster University sounds like a cheap-deep-fried-fast degree-granting institution.
    "Would you like a McMaster or a McBSc with that ?

    Don't read this sig

    1. Re:Not to diss them but... by michaeli · · Score: 1

      Oh, don't worry, our cafeterias have a field day with that one. How often would you like to eat a Fried Egg-McMaster(with bacon or ham) or a McMaster Maurader Burger?

      Yeah.

      --


      "this is a really good piece of cantoloupe."
    2. Re:Not to diss them but... by TheLink · · Score: 1

      Careful or McDonalds might sue.

      http://www.rileycom.co.uk/rileycom/data/document .n sf/ID+View/38953424642DF6C9802569

      They lost a case against a Clan MacDonald scotsman tho :).

      --
  29. For any youngster considering CS ... by BigWorm · · Score: 1

    look at all of those unused condoms.

  30. At least they left the hampsters alone by wadiwood · · Score: 4, Funny

    The best prank we computer scientists ever did was invite a stripper to the lecture. The stupidest thing we did was let the engineers (those guys that go to engineering school, mechanical, civil, chemical, electrical etc) know that we had invited the stripper.

    lecture was eventually held in tutorial room out the back, and lecturer was unexpectedly lecherous - yuk.

    Best prank engineers did was hang a roadworthy(?) volkswagon underneath the footbridge and over the river.

    Best prank I ever contributed to was the kidnap and ransom of a local politician (with his consent). Raised $40 from the parliament house to keep him, and $300 from the uni bar to give him back.

    --

    -- it must be true, it's on the internet.
  31. Mirror! by FrostedWheat · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Those images are HUGE!

    Here's a recompressed mirror. It should be there until 16:40 GMT.
    Or maybe not. Do your worst :)

    1. Re:Mirror! by FrostedWheat · · Score: 1

      It's gone now. :)

  32. Nah... by ottffssent · · Score: 4, Funny

    If they were real engineers, there'd be teleporters on either side of the board:)

    Great job guys! Looks awesome.

  33. "Kipling" reminds me of a very old joke... by jtheory · · Score: 1, Offtopic


    Young man (trying to sound literate): "So, do you like Kipling?"
    Young woman (suddenly coy): "Goodness, I don't know; I've never kippled before..."

    Well, I thought it was funny.

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    There are only 10 types of people: those who understand decimal, those who don't, and, uh, 8 other types I forget.
  34. the real prank... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe the real prank was DOSsing their school's webserver by getting a link posted on /.

  35. That isn't duct tape! by morbuz · · Score: 1

    That is not duct tape, duct tape is silver-grey! Ever seen Macgyver use blue and pink tape?

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  36. Flawed logic by lightspawn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Software Engineers at McMaster University designed a life sized Pac-Man board, thus answering the question of whether or not software engineering is in fact engineering."

    That's like saying "The president played the saxophone, thus answering the question of whether or not politics is in fact music".

  37. Repeat after me.... by evilviper · · Score: 3, Funny
    wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka wakka



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  38. ARGH!! YOU IDIOTS! by angry4F03 · · Score: 3, Funny

    These guys slashdotted the CAS server! Now I can't download the notes for Dr. Leduc's 4F03 exam on Monday! WE'RE ALL GONNA FAIL! Start running Shabbir! ------------- Adam

    1. Re:ARGH!! YOU IDIOTS! by pc-0x90 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Adam, the server didn't melt.. the admins blocked all external access. Either come into school, or ssh into another server (maybe one that starts with an m) and you can access it that way (either tunnel your x connection or use lynx) .. I've accessed the 4F03 notes the same way already today.

  39. I got a use for duct tape by schnits0r · · Score: 1

    HOlding the server together while it was getting slashdotted.

  40. Handy mans secret weapon by Brad1138 · · Score: 1

    Red Green has got to be a sponsor for this.

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    If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people
  41. Alma matter by SimJockey · · Score: 1

    Ah, McMaster, how I miss thee. I heard through the grapevine that the pranks were pretty good this year. My year the Kipling pranks were poorly organized and thus sucked. Nice work guys.

    Looks like they set that up in the new student centre that I paid for for 5 years but never got to see. Enjoy it.

    Off for my morning coffee, in my Kipling mug in honour of it's new found fame.

    Cheers,

    James, Chem Eng '96

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  42. The ups, downs and escaping chickens of Kipling by Emb · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Kipling pranks at McMaster are occassionally creative, but I've seen more stupidity than creativity in the past few years. I admit up front my bias at being a Comp Sci graduate and resenting the forced merger with the Computer and Software engineers and coming under the evil shadow of their malevolent dictator.

    That aside, Kipling has oft been at the root of distruction and vandalism. HOG and Kipling can be seen spraypainted on many signs, buildings, and sidewalks all over campus from Kiplings past. One year they actual released chickens in the middle of the Engineering building while the nursing students had set up their projects in the main hall for educating students on health issues, causing great stress to both the nursing students and the chickens. Laugh if you want, but I don't find the ruination of someone's school project and the injury of innocent animals entertaining - nor do I see that it shows any creativity or skill. The car on the roof of the library awning, while interesting, was also dangerous to passers by and damaged property. Silly Engineers.

    I believe my favorite prank, because it was both harmless and amusing, was when they chalked every sidewalk on the campus to have road symbols, including dividing and passing lines, stop lines at intersections, etc.

    1. Re:The ups, downs and escaping chickens of Kipling by Mr+Bill · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What about the time they made an aquarium out of the arch behind University Hall! They put panes of glass on either side of the arch, sealed the edges, filled it with water and threw in a bunch of goldfish.

      This proved quite a poser for the janitorial staff, since they didn't know how to remove this without killing the fish...

      I think the main reason the pranks got more destructive in the past years is because the University wouldn't let them have their fun. I remember the engineers spent half the night painting the shuttle busses that travel across campus every day. They used water soluble paints to be non-destructive, but the University had the cleaning staff in at 6:00 AM to wash the busses clean, so no one saw the prank. They should have just let them have their fun for the day...

  43. Now I want a shopping mall floor video screen by SmackCrackandPot · · Score: 1

    That is the craziest way to recreate a pac-man game.

    Now I really want to see an animated version. How about getting a video game, connecting it to a video projection system aimed at the floor?

    Even crazier, add a motion detection system that would generate input based on people moving across the floor.

  44. Kipling Ceremony by A+Guy+From+Ottawa · · Score: 1
    I have to comment here...

    I attended the Kipling cewremony about a month ago at my Uni, Carleton in Ottawa. All I have to say is that this "secret" ceremony was somewhat of a let down.

    There was no drinking of goat's blood, no biting-off chicken necks, and no munching of donkey ears.

    They did however give us iron rings, and apparently we weren't supposed to eat them. They could have mentioned that beforehand...

    Now, unlike most of my Canadian eng. brothers and sisters (but much like my engineering friends from SOVIET RUSSIA), I don't wear the ring... it wears me!

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    using System.Awesome;

    1. Re:Kipling Ceremony by Futz_Jesus · · Score: 1

      If nothing else, I got the Family Guy reference. Soon as I saw SOVIET RUSSIA, that's what I thought of.

  45. Have they even played Pacman ever? by tstoneman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Hmmmm, let's see graduating 2003....

    If they entered university at 19, then they must be about 23, which means they were born around 1980 +- 1 year.

    Pacman was long gone by the time they could reach the joystick!

    I bet none of them ever played the original Pacman or even understood how big of a fad it was!!!

    I remember taking my mom's silver quarters that she had been saving (remember when quarters were made out of real silver?!?), not understanding the value of them, and using them to play video games like Pacman.

    "That's Incredible" would have segments on kids getting the highest scores ever, playing it the longest, etc. I got the crappy version of Pacman for the Atari 2600 (at first disappointed, but it was better than nothing, so I accepted it). I watched the terrible Pacman cartoon on ABC. I think they also had a Q-bert cartoon as well.

    Ahhh, the good old days.

    1. Re:Have they even played Pacman ever? by Piquan · · Score: 1

      I watched the terrible Pacman cartoon on ABC. I think they also had a Q-bert cartoon as well.

      Yup, they did... and about the same time, there was a "Supercade" cartoon that borrowed from a number of popular games.

      I recently TiVoed a few eps of Pacman from one of the ABC-owned networks, which was doing a "cartoon flashback" type of thing. (They also showed Smurfs, Shirt Tales, and others. But still no Kidd Video.)

    2. Re:Have they even played Pacman ever? by James+Lewis · · Score: 1

      I was born in 1981 and I both played the original pacman and watched the cartoon. Along with digger, space invaders, and breakout it was one of my favorite games... at least until the NES came out. I was about 4 at the time and so these games were a bit old, but they were still fun =P

    3. Re:Have they even played Pacman ever? by morcheeba · · Score: 1

      I had the nelsonic pacman watch with the joystick. It came with 4 different colored joysticks, mainly because they were easy to break. This used 2 LCDs on top of each other - one for the time, and one for the game. The gameplay was good - much better than the timex version that had a smaller screen. Plus, the nelsonic version had 2 game play modes- fixed walls, and randomly moving walls. But, only the timex had the real pacman music theme that was so catchy at the time.

    4. Re:Have they even played Pacman ever? by sridev · · Score: 1

      Now I feel an urge to play Pacman again :) Can anyone tell me where I can download a PC version of the original Pacman game?

  46. Burning Man is even better! by wezelboy · · Score: 1

    Last year someone setup a life size Pac Man board at burning man and actually played out life size games with real life size people. They had all the sounds and music to go along with it.

    Quite clever.

    -WB

  47. "I do." by algernon7 · · Score: 1

    "All the time." - me

  48. kipling? kipling pranks? by mnx.ca · · Score: 1

    aren't 4th year engineering pranks reserved for april fools day? that's when the graduating eng students pull their pranks here at queen's... (and everywhere else i think)

    it's already been said, but everyone else calls it the iron ring ceremony so get with it.

    mnx

  49. Sfwr Engineering @ McMaster by MCS · · Score: 1

    The Software engineering program is an acredited engineering program with the CEAB. The reason-- to the best of my understanding that SFWR ENG is paired with the CAS group, is due to the shared lab space and staff--- plus some of the courses overlap a 4th year eng course is a grad course for CS, etc.

  50. LAME! by clambake · · Score: 1

    They were so close... but they failed to use ritz crackers as polls and guys in sheets as the ghosts.. now THAT would have been fun to watch.

  51. Idiots... by telstar · · Score: 1

    They go to all that trouble to replicate the game's board, then they make up some gay swirly packman design.

    1. Re:Idiots... by Emb · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think the Mac Engineers might not like you insulting their sacred fireball. That "gay swirly" thing is the logo for McMaster Engineering. http://www.eng.mcmaster.ca/

    2. Re:Idiots... by telstar · · Score: 1

      Nah, I was right the first time...

  52. Booo. That's a pity. by SharpFang · · Score: 1

    Well, it still misses the point. They replicated the game board. I think the ghosts should be automatic robots (I honestly expected it!) and the player (live person) should just run the maze (without crossing borders!) and pick up all the "dots" without getting caught. That would pretty much replicate the game itself...

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  53. incorrect. by mushroom+blue · · Score: 1

    from the mameinfo.dat file:

    they're commonly known as monsters. not ghosts.

    Blinky, Pinky, Inky and Clyde are their nicknames.

    the real names are Shadow, Speedy, Bashful, and Pokey.

    1. Re:incorrect. by JKR · · Score: 1
      Also known as Inky, Dinky, Pinky and Clyde; Clyde is the red one, and has a different game logic to the others. He's still predictable, though - Bazo's Breaker is one pattern which basically guarantees you can beat the game.

      Jon

  54. engineers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    If they had been good engineers, they would have
    used gaffer's tape, not duct tape. Compared to
    duct tape, gaffer's tape leaves less residue
    and is also easier to tear.

    I would NOT want to be the person who has to try
    to get all that duct tape reside off the nice floor.
    And there's a decent chance that the pranksters
    will in fact be forced to clean it up.

  55. Another one bites the dust. by damm0 · · Score: 1

    Some day the slashdot editors may learn that they wield the power to disrupt services and cause financial damages. Perhaps someone will sue them; they deserve it.

    Until then, i'll be slightly uneasy when posting cool stuff on line. You never know when slashdot will strike!

  56. U of Manitoba agrees by Man+In+Black · · Score: 1

    I just went through this ceremony about a month ago, and it's formal name was "The Ritual Of The Calling Of An Engineer" at the U of M.... although no one actually calls it that... we all just say "The Iron Ring Ceremony".

    There's not really any pranking done on the day though... at least, no more than any other day.

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    -"One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man." -EH
  57. Bittorrent download by Cond0r · · Score: 1

    Try the following bittorrent link if the mirrors are too slow: http://f.scarywater.net/Kipling_2003_prank_-_Pac-M an.torrent.

  58. Carleton by Hydro-X · · Score: 1

    Congrats.

  59. Naw..... by wolf2q · · Score: 1

    The RED GREEN movie "Ducttape vorever" is funnier.
    http://www.redgreen.com

    Wolf

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  60. me too! by asciirock · · Score: 1

    me too

    Definately the Most sanest post in the thread.

    PS: whoops! while your at it, mod me down for me2ing ;-)

  61. With all that duct tape... by Markus+Landgren · · Score: 1

    ...shouldn't they be doing something more important? Like defeating international terrorism?