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Underworld Trailer

Scoop writes "Just wanted to let everyone know that UGO is exclusively hosting the trailer for Underworld, an action movie set in a world where werewolves and vampires exist, and are at war. Pretty cool stuff, check it out."

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  1. bittorent it before it goes down? :-) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    it's only 3.5 megabytes but I bet it will get overloaded anyway...

    direct download url:
    mms://agency2wm.fplive.net/agency/2/2/film/u nderwo rld/underworld_teaser_trailer_high.asf

    1 minute 46 seconds long... looks like a decent movie...

  2. Kate Beckinsale.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Okay, that trailer was.... not so good, and a total Matrix rip off, with a helping dose of Blade, and just reminded me why Buffy does the whole Vampire thing sooooo much better than anyone else ever has.... but damn. How the hell can you not love Kate Beckinsale in all black leather with guns blazing?

    1. Re:Kate Beckinsale.... by TheGrayArea · · Score: 1

      Hot chicks in tight leather == geek movie hit. I can dig it.

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    2. Re:Kate Beckinsale.... by oogoliegoogolie · · Score: 1

      Bufffy? ...sooooo much better than anyone else ever has??? HAHAHAHAHAHA Don't know what you've been smoking, but it must be goooooooood!

  3. So exclusive it isn't. by Valdier · · Score: 2, Redundant

    It is so amazingly exclusive that you can also watch it in quicktime at Apple.com

    High Resolution
    Medium Resolution
    Low Resolution

    1. Re:So exclusive it isn't. by geekoid · · Score: 1

      thank you.

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  4. So exclusive it isn't by Valdier · · Score: 5, Funny

    It is so amazingly exclusive that you can also watch it in quicktime at Apple.com

    High Resolution
    Medium Resolution
    Low Resolution

    1. Re:So exclusive it isn't by randomdef · · Score: 1

      I've watched both the apple and UGO trailers, they are slightly diffrent (watch both and look at the titles, i didnt pay close enough attention to notice any other large differnces) so yes, the UGO is exclusive.

    2. Re:So exclusive it isn't by koali · · Score: 1

      If you want to download it, look for the mov files in the html source of that page. And an 'm' just before the resolution. There you go.

      Or you can actually download the mov file (which is very small), run it through 'strings' and find out the real name.

    3. Re:So exclusive it isn't by MortisUmbra · · Score: 1

      It was exclusive when they released it a few days ago :)

      That being said, thank you for links to a bigger version I can save to my HD so I can make it even bigger so I can see wtf is going on (that UGO one was TINY, even the "high quality" one).

      Kate Beckinsale is so damned fine.

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  5. great. another matrix wannabe. by humberthumbert · · Score: 1


    looks crap. overly loud, pointless hollywood drivel...

    1. Re:great. another matrix wannabe. by MortisUmbra · · Score: 1

      Wow, you could tell all that from a teaser trailer, MY GOD you are GOOD!

      Nevermind the fact it has nothing at all to do with anything even remotely related to the Matrix....honestly, even from that trailer I have no clue how the f*ck you managed to come to that conclusion.

      For the record while it is an action movie, it is not primarily geared to that sense. It's kind of half action half romance. Read up on it and you might just find out its nothing like Blade OR The Matrix, and it might just be good.

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    2. Re:great. another matrix wannabe. by geekoid · · Score: 1

      OK, someone is a little touchy about other peoples opinions on a movie.

      The trailer:
      People wearing black shiney leather, shooting guns, jumping off buildings, and a whole bunch of other wire fu. Even the archetexture inside the building looks like it was from the matrix. If it is more then that, then the people who made the trailor should have put some tease of that in the trailer.

      If you have to go read up on a movie, then the trailor has FAILED.

      You may have a life that consist of spending evet waking moment trying to find infomationon your pet hobbies, but most people don't.
      BTW the matrix was half action and half romance.

      Now its time for me to go to my White Wolf game, Ciao.

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    3. Re:great. another matrix wannabe. by Urox · · Score: 1
      If you have to go read up on a movie, then the trailor has FAILED.

      I completely agree with this statement. So what is the point then of releasing them? I assume there has to be some point. Terminator 3 and Pirates of the Carabean both had completely pointless trailers at first (seeing 3 arc welded out of metal for t3 and seeing flashing swords and only swords "artistically" flying across the screen and and *one* cgi foot for PotC) but I have seen their most recent trailers and they certainly promise more.

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  6. Lame dialogue by DoctorFrog · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The trailer's dialogue is lame beyond belief. "I am a death dealer... for centuries my kind have waged a hidden war against the Lycans (tm)..."

    Looks like another "it's an excuse for special effects and damn the physics. Damn the acting too" movie. Yawn.

    The day when special effects can carry a movie past lame dialogue, stupid plots and wooden acting are mercifully passing, as FX become cheaper and thereby less remarkable. That day is not yet, though... I hope this movie is better than the trailer makes it appear, but I doubt it.

    1. Re:Lame dialogue by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, my first thought was, "Oh, vampires and werewolves... yeah, that's #&^%#*ing original."

      Looks like another example of 94 minutes of padding used to extract a 2 minute trailer and snatch enough ticket sales to break even before word-of-mouth gets out.

      Yawn is right.

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    2. Re:Lame dialogue by mikedaisey · · Score: 1


      That is atrocious dialogue.

      Why call them Lycans? You already have vampires, why not call them werewolves and at least avoid Special Name-itis?

      Because they aren't very bright, that's why.

    3. Re:Lame dialogue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Probably because the whole "wolf" connection is tenuous at best. The term for a person that becomes an animal-- wolf or otherwise-- is "lycanthrope." So "lycan" is a perfectly reasonable colloquial abbreviation.

    4. Re:Lame dialogue by GrayWizard · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's not quite right. Werewolf is the exact translation of lycanthrope (Greek lukanthrôpos : lukos, wolf + anthrôpos, man.). AFAIK there is no general term for a person that becomes an amimal.

    5. Re:Lame dialogue by Karl_Hungus · · Score: 1

      AFAIK there is no general term for a person that becomes an amimal.


      Ahem.

      "Manimal"

    6. Re:Lame dialogue by Zerth · · Score: 1

      of course there is, therianthrope. from thEra, wild animal. Although, I suppose you could use zoanthropy perhaps if you wanted to make sure you included livestock and stuff.

      You can make just about any specific combination too. For example, people that turn into cats are called ailouranthropes. Yay for everything2.com:)

    7. Re:Lame dialogue by fenix+down · · Score: 1

      Brilliant. You, sir, are a genius of the highest caliber.

    8. Re:Lame dialogue by mikedaisey · · Score: 1


      Except for the part where it sounds really stupid.

  7. Re: BitTorrent by TwistedSquare · · Score: 1

    BitTorrent would be good, and preferably not in a propietary format...

  8. Here is a better version bigger and better quality by eLiTeGoodGuy · · Score: 2, Informative


    I have downloaded the Quicktime version of it... it's a larger one and it's
    better quality. I don't know about you but I hate asf[P]
    This movie looks good, she looks really hot too :) (that leather outfit
    makes her look like that 1800-Call-ATT woman[P]

    Well anyway here's the link, hopefully my can server can handle it for a
    while[P]
    [LI]http://www.phelonyhosting.com/und erworld.html[ /LI]

  9. Re:maybe get this on the bittorrent server? by CvD · · Score: 1

    You can grab mms:// urls with MMS Client or feed it straight to mplayer, which will stream it.

    Cheers!

    CvD.

  10. V:TM by Rui+Lopes · · Score: 1

    hummm, vampires and werewolves... Vampire: The Masquerade anyone?

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  11. Resemblance to The Matrix by Odaeus · · Score: 1

    Surely this couldn't just be an excuse to produce another film laden with pseudo-martial art and special effects to cash in on the audience of The Matrix? Doesn't even look slightly similar...

  12. Just lovely by madmarcel · · Score: 1

    Streaming Windoze media player format...
    or...
    RealPlayer format

    Great, neither of which will play on my linux box without having to recompile something or other...

    You know, sometimes I just want things to work...especially now at midnight.

    (And all I wanted to know was what the SFX are like: Are we talking decent werewolves here or a bunch of freaking hoary muppets :P)

    1. Re:Just lovely by Zed2K · · Score: 1

      You choose your OS knowing fully the limitations, and yet still complain...

    2. Re:Just lovely by listen · · Score: 1

      Just use mplayer.

      The quicktime one on apple.com seems to work best, I used KMPlayer embedded in Konqueror.

  13. oh noes by SnAzBaZ · · Score: 1

    *Exclusively* hosting a large movie trailer? With a link on Slashdot you say? Uh uh.

  14. not quite exclusively by CreGen · · Score: 2, Informative
    a quicktime version can be found at the apple site

    The plot summary reads as follows:
    "Underworld" reimagines Vampires as a secretive clan of modern, aristocratic sophisticates whose mortal enemies are the Lycans (werewolves), a shrewd gang of street thugs who prowl the city's underbelly. The balance of power is upset when a beautiful young Vampire and a nascent Lycan - deadly rivals for centuries - fall in love. Len Wiseman directs Kate Beckinsdale and Scott Speedman in a fast-paced, modern-day tale of deadly action, ruthless intrigue and forbidden love, all set against the backdrop of an ancient feud between the two tribes in a timeless, Gothic metropolis.
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    1. Re:not quite exclusively by hitmark · · Score: 1

      ok, so basilcy its the good old romeo and juliet plot dropped into the blender along with some white wolf stuff (slightly modefied to dodge incoming lawsuits) and given a spin. alltho i havea feel that ill probablysee it, just for the combat stuff (the same reason for why i watched the blade movies and some other stuff)

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  15. Dissappointed by dubbayu_d_40 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thought I was in for a little Underdog meets Waterworld! One can only hope...

    1. Re:Dissappointed by tchapin · · Score: 1


      No, knowing the people behind movies like "SnowDogs", we would have gotten "WaterDog", with both Kevin Costner AND Cuba Gooding Jr.

      Just the thought of that is making me cry...

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  16. Watch it under Linux by CvD · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you wanna watch it under Linux, you can use mplayer, which will play straight in mozilla if you have the mozilla-mplayer plugin.

    Or if you wanna save it onto your HD you can view the HTML source and pick out the URL. Get the asx file with wget. Then take the mms:// link that is in there and feed it to MMS client.

    These (mozilla plugin, mplayer, mmsclient) are all available as Debian packages. :-)

    Cheers!

    Costyn.

  17. Direct links to the videos by Andorion · · Score: 3, Informative
    1. Re:Direct links to the videos by grahamkg · · Score: 1

      Real Video, High Quality works under Linux. Thanks!!!!!!!

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  18. White Wolf should be pissed by Glyndwr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Vampires and werewolves fighting a secret war against a modern backdrop? Zeitgeist and angst? If I were the produces of the World of Darkness pen&paper roleplaying games series, I think I'd be rather annoyed. This film seems to have stolen most of its premise lock, stock and barrel.

    In other news, it appears even /. itself is now slashdotted. Marvellous.

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    1. Re:White Wolf should be pissed by Mac+Degger · · Score: 1

      HEh...maybe even Silvestri from Image comics can claim this infringes on Wetworks :)

      Here's just hoping that this movie has the style of the first 7 or 8 issues rather than what came after.

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    2. Re:White Wolf should be pissed by Glyndwr · · Score: 1

      As someone who has read about half of Rice's novels and played a fair bit of WoD (World of Darkness) RPG, I feel qualified to say you are wrong. For a start, WoD's vampires are pretty different to Rice's; the detailed vampire social structures and history presented in the WoD are, to my mind, pretty much unrivalled. And secondly, there is a hell of a lot more to WoD than vampires; I don't recall Rice having many werewolves, mages, faerie or changelings in her stories.

      Mage: The Awakening was particularly innovative; it's magic system was one of the most interesting ones ever placed into an RPG, with the possible exception of the kick-ass Amber RPG. I guess what I'm trying to say here is that White Wolf worked hard on the WoD games and to dismiss them as derivative is extremely unfair.

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    3. Re:White Wolf should be pissed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm with you there. While White Wolf didn't invent Mages, or Faeries, or Vampires or any of the other headline denziens of World of Darkness, they did come up with a totally new take on 'em. One I've never run across in the horror and modern fantasy I'd read before they published the WOD games. Not only did they manage to tell horror stories from the monsters point of view, but they also created a cosmology that united all the points of view into a single setting. Granted it bulges a bit at the seams, but overall it manages to contain everything. They did work hard both on systems and settings. The rules leave a bit to be desired, but no system is perfect and that's why GMs were invented. I'd say that Whitewolf's efforts were derivative in the sense that they were inspired by some of the trends in horror and fantasy literature at the time they created WOD, but that's the same as saying all fiction is derivative. The poster who made the point about packaging the stuff up and selling it to gullible goths is missing the point of role playing. You and your buddies can make of it what you want. I've seen WOD games run as light hearted adventures and as mind bending surreal dramas and everything in between. It all depends on who's playing and what their mood is. The fact that the settign works across such broad continuum speaks well of it.

  19. link to high res trailer by truffle · · Score: 3, Informative
    high res trailer

    You can watch it full screen and not in the matchbox in the web page

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  20. We got the jist the first 2 times buddy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    quit hitting submit

  21. Wow. by the+gnat · · Score: 1

    Looks like a shameless attempt to cash in on the success of both Blade and The Matrix at the same time. Pearl Harbor doesn't seem to have done much for Kate Beckinsale's acting career. . . gee, there's a shock. Might not be as bad if she looked a bit better wearing a tight leather suit - from the trailer, I don't think she'll be replacing Trinity in any geek fantasies.

    This one has "no advance screenings" written all over it.

    1. Re:Wow. by blamanj · · Score: 1

      But those of us who like off-the-wall British literary send-ups have been fantasizing about her since Cold Comfort Farm.

  22. Not to be confused with Underworld, already on DVD by Andy_R · · Score: 1

    http://www.currentfilm.com/dvdreviews2/underworldd vd.html

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  23. Werewolves versus Vampires? YES! by eatdave13 · · Score: 1

    DUDE! Rock ON! Werewolves? Vampires? Hot tits and ass? YES!

    Seriously guys, lighten up a little... it's a bunch of eyecandy. Explosions, jumping 80 feet in the air, car chases, sex... Christ, whaddya want, a plot? You watch this movie on the level you watch a porno. Don't cheapen it by looking for more.

    VAMPIRES! WEREWOLVES! YES YES YES! RAWR KILLING YESSSS!!! BLOOD BLOODY BLOOD BLOOD TITS!

    See guys... doesn't it feel good to bring yourself down an intellectual notch for 2 hours of your life? It won't kill you, and it may get you laid.

    By the way... watch Ronin. Another terrible movie, but it has the best car chase scene ever. Ever. Oh, and The Musketeer. Awesome swordfights, awful movie. As a matter of fact, just fast-forward through both of them to get to the good parts.

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    1. Re:Werewolves versus Vampires? YES! by archen · · Score: 1

      See guys... doesn't it feel good to bring yourself down an intellectual notch for 2 hours of your life?

      I bring myself down a couple intellectual notches at work for 8 hours a day, I don't need it when I [in theory would] go to the movies too. =P

      Only movie I'm looking to see this summer is Kill Bill, which at least hints at having a coy sense of style.

    2. Re:Werewolves versus Vampires? YES! by macthulhu · · Score: 1

      Amen. It's a fucking MOVIE! What's next? Are we going to debate the impossibilities of Daffy Duck? Don't want to see "ads" for movies on Slashdot? Don't click the fucking link! Don't want to see this movie? I'm sure Pirates of Silicon Valley is on the shelf somewhere at Cockbuster. Oh, that's right... we pasty computer geeks don't like to venture out of the cave for long. Seriously. Lighten up.

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    3. Re:Werewolves versus Vampires? YES! by MortisUmbra · · Score: 1

      It's not even an ad, it's a user submitted link to something on interest. People need to SERIOUSLY get the fuck over themselves. If you dont want to see it, fine, but shut the hell up with your retarded comments about the movie. Nobody gives a shit what you think, you aren't cool, you aren't "in" your just some loser on a message board spouting off his piece.

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    4. Re:Werewolves versus Vampires? YES! by libnatel · · Score: 1

      just like episode 1 and 2. you fast forward to the light saber fight scenes, and just ignore all the other crap like gungans, elected queens, pod racers, and clones.

  24. Nothing new under the sun by mvdwege · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Hollywood Business Plan:

    1. Rip off the plot from Romeo and Juliet again.
    2. Rip off the setting from White Wolf's World of Darkness.
    3. Profit?

    Seriously, the more new movies come out, the less I care. They're all boring and derivative anyway. Stolen plots, cardboard characters, and they only rely on some special effects to draw in the crowds.

    And ironies of ironies, the MPAA is one of the organisations fighting against people making derivatives. Perhaps after a hundred years of strong copyright they might finally start making original movies again. Too bad I'll be dead...

    Sigh. It seems the old philosopher was right: there is nothing new under the sun.

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    1. Re:Nothing new under the sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Rip off the plot from Romeo and Juliet again.

      If you know of a better story, I'd love to hear about it. "Romeo and Juliet" is one of the few architypal stories we have: impossible love. "The Odyssey" is another: finding one's way home. "Hamlet" is another: intricate revenge. Do you think "The Matrix" had an original story? It was the reluctant messiah myth; that one's older than Jesus!

      In other words, my misguided friend, the phrase "rip off the plot" basically has no meaning. There are only a few stories that engage an audience. Every successful tale must adapt one or more of these story archetypes for its plot. That's all there is to it.

    2. Re:Nothing new under the sun by mvdwege · · Score: 1

      You are right of course. But there is a difference between using the tried-and-true device of the 'star-crossed lovers' and ripping off the plot. Be fair, how many Hollywood movies have done something original with the tragic love story?

      The true test of art is not being 100% original, the true test is taking an existing device and doing something interesting with it. Hell, most of Shakespeare's plays are based on that method, and he knew how create something interesting and daring from a cliché.

      I don't expect that kind of brilliance from Hollywood. A careful reading of my original comment will show that I don't believe in 100% originality, and especially not coming from mass market entertainment. What I do expect, even in my mass market entertainment is quality, not uninspired hacks.

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  25. Re:I can see a lawsuit waiting to happen. by hitmark · · Score: 1

    i was thinking about the same stuff when i first read the post, but the name used for werewolfs are diffrent then whats in white wolfs books, and i dont think white wolf can claim copyright to the idea of vampires vs werewolfs:) (alltho they can try, usa is the land of lawsuits afterall)

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  26. mmsclient by Bishop · · Score: 1

    thanks for the pointer.

    The mencoder -ovc copy -oac copy hack wasn't working too well.

  27. Re:I can see a lawsuit waiting to happen. by Xel · · Score: 5, Funny

    Umm... if you whink White Wolf invented werewolves and vampires, you really need to take a little trip to your local library...

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  28. Re:maybe get this on the bittorrent server? by ahaning · · Score: 1

    I'd recommend ASFRecorder when it works. That file includes a Win32 binary and the .c source which can be compiled thusly:

    gcc asfrecorder.c -o asfrecorder

    And then just:

    asfrecorder http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/underworld/vide o/trailer/trailer_high.asx

    With mplayer it isn't quite as easy to capture streamed data:

    mplayer -dumpstream -dumpfile underworld_teaser_trailer_high.asf mms://agency2wm.fplive.net/agency/2/2/film/underwo rld/underworld_teaser_trailer_high.asf

    Of course, if you're using mplayer/xine, you might find the Quicktime version a bit better:

    wget http://a772.g.akamai.net/5/772/51/1373e4e8b18d05/1 a1a1aaa2198c627970773d80669d84574a8d80d3cb12453c02 589f25382f668c9329e0375e8178af967e03faf187bef64d63 baedd52c02489fb72e153bf23/underworld_m480.mov/a?

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  29. Bah. by mikedaisey · · Score: 1


    Look kids, it's retreaded NOUN: THE GERUND! Now with 50% more Matrix-style anime action!

  30. Lighten up! by FullCircle · · Score: 1

    Get off your high-horse, artsy-fartsey soapboxes and enjoy a movie for a change!

    This looks like it might be a fun movie. I don't want to pay to see what the real world looks like, I want action and fantasy.

    Yes, like just about any movies produced in the next few years, it borrows from a few recent movies:

    The Crow.
    Blade.
    Matrix.
    Queen of the Damned.
    And any other Goth/Vampire/Techno/Action flick.

    But they were all a fun ride. If done well, this may be good too.

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    1. Re:Lighten up! by bahamutirc · · Score: 1

      I agree.

      Typical computer geek elitism. Somebody comes out with a movie like the Matrix, and all you here is "Matrix wannabies!" instead of "cool, another Matrix-like movie. Now I have something to do tonight besides bitch on slashdot about ..."

      Sometimes I like movies without a lot of plot and just a lot of action and special effects. They're fun to watch.

      This movie looks like it'll be fun, and I already like the storyline of vampires vs. werewolves. Sounds interesting.

    2. Re:Lighten up! by libnatel · · Score: 1

      blade and queen of the damned were by far the worst vampire movies ever released. you should be ashamed for having put them in a list of good movies un-realistic movies with good special efects.

  31. That's the best they can do? by kongjie · · Score: 1
    Others have noted the extensive ripping off from The Matrix look, both in terms of costumes and in the slo-mo etc. camera work.

    I can't believe the lame stunts that we've seen 20 times before: the ol' punch through the roof of the car and the ol' shoot a circle through the floor (The Fifth Element and even, I think, Bugs Bunny).

    Wasn't that big leap off the building done in The Crow, too?

    Gee, and that ol' mortals caught in between a super-war is trés Highlander and even Terminator.

    It's one thing to watch a movie and condemn it as derivative; it's another to watch the trailer and be able to voice the same complaint.

    1. Re:That's the best they can do? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      NOthing is wholey original.

      How many stories were written about conflict between gods where man is caught in the middle? that goes back a long way. The first telling of that plot was probably the first night man had fire.

      FTR the matrix did nothing new. Wire Fu? been done.
      Person in an unbelievable world? been done.
      Human enslavement? been done.
      Person with unbelievable power? been done.
      Wearing black and kinking ass? been done.
      Stabbed in the back by a co-worker? been done.
      Hoover cars? been done.

      The point is not originality, its "Did you enjoy it."

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    2. Re:That's the best they can do? by kongjie · · Score: 1
      You'll note that the plot element thing was something I added at the end.

      My main point is not that the story is unoriginal; it's that the trailer, the tiny snippets that the studio shows you because they think it will totally hook you and make you want to shell over your lucre, features a look and stunts that have been excessively exploited in recent cinema.

      I should have left out the last part of my complaint because all plots come from other plots. I agree with you on that. But the special effects genre of film thrives on one thing: showing you things you haven't seen, or even imagined, before. My point is that this film isn't even doing this in its trailer, so it's sure to be lame.

  32. WhiteWolf Influance???? by Gypsy2012 · · Score: 1

    The website for the movie basically sends us to the trailer and not much else... I do recall in my table top RP days that White Wolf's world generally had vampires and wear wolves against each other. I'm curious if this movie is based on that world or not. Not like it will make my decision or any thing. Give me a movie with hot vampire chicks in skin tight leather like material with lots of voilence and I'm there. I'm just curious about the movie's origins.

  33. Mary Poppins Goes Goth? by coneal · · Score: 1

    OK, the Mary Poppins crack is maybe a bit out of line, but look at the jump she does early in the trailer. It looks like she's skipping through the puddles. That straight legged landing looks like it was produced by the Mary Poppins Flight Simulator(tm).

    I like Kate Beckinsale as much as the next guy (probably more actually), but I don't see her as an action star. Maybe they should've gotten the Jurassic park graphics team to model her for the action sequences.

    And to all those that say in response to critical posts, "Lighten Up. It's just a movie. Noone made you watch the trailer.", I say, "Lighten up. It's just a critical post. Noone made you read someone else's critical post."

    Thank you to all the critical posters out there. I'll probably end up seeing this film despite my misgivings, but having it ripped beforehand keeps my expectations low, which increases the chances that I'll actually enjoy it when I see it.

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    1. Re:Mary Poppins Goes Goth? by coneal · · Score: 1

      It's true that I'm picking on this film & basing my initial reaction to this film on very little information. It's kind of like how people have hunches, without having all the facts. It ain't scientific, but so what?

      It's also true that you're doing the exact same thing when you call me an idiot after reading a single post of mine. I find that amusing.

    2. Re:Mary Poppins Goes Goth? by fenix+down · · Score: 1

      No, no. It will suck because it's about a rich girl falling in love with a poor guy. Only with vampires. I'm fucking orgasmic with anticipation.

      I know I can't expect an entirely new concept anymore, but this is just a crappy chick-porn book with some stolen Hong Kong fight scenes edited in to make it a "date movie" and some vampires and leather added at the last minute to cash in on this month's studio funding splurge for Matrix/LotR-related geek movies. I can get more artistic integrity form most porn flicks these days.

  34. If someone only tapped whitewolf's creative genius by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
    unfortunately, this seems to just be a lame vamps vs furries movie. with lots of hollywood special effects. If someone ever managed to license the World of Darkness from whitewolf, they could have some AMAZING movies. If they were tastefully done of course. The depth of the vampire society and their disciplines....the different forms and gifts of the garou not to mention the many other shapeshifters in that universe...the reality-shattering power of the mages, the cantrips of the changelings etc. Cool fight scenes and mindblowing FX should not come before plot and acting however.

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  35. Poor Don DeLillo... by kaltkalt · · Score: 1

    The guy writes one of the best books of the past 50 years (called "Underworld") and they take the title (which they're allowed to do, of course) and make a friggin werewolf movie out of it. Oh well. I just hope too many literature snobs don't go see the movie expecting something it's not :)

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    1. Re:Poor Don DeLillo... by kaltkalt · · Score: 1

      You have him confused with the champagne. His name is Don. Go look on Amazon.com. Or do a google search for "don delillo"

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  36. Romeo & Juliet? by Hollinger · · Score: 1

    So, how many ways can you retell Romeo and Juliet?
    See http://romanticmovies.about.com/cs/underworld/ for what I'm talking about.

    1. Re:Romeo & Juliet? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      1 plot, infinte variences.

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  37. Re:I can see a lawsuit waiting to happen. by Demonix · · Score: 1

    Actually, the disconnect between vampires and werewolves has been explored before...I remember an episode of Ghostbusters (the cartoon based on the movie characters) that explored a similar theme.

    White Wolf does not have a monopoly on the supernatural.

    Besides, the enimies in the two games were different...Vampires were mostly against themselves, and Werewolves were warriors of gaia fighting against its corruption.

    I guess we'll have to see how the plot shakes out...

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  38. Re:PUBLIC SERVICE MESSAGE by MortisUmbra · · Score: 1

    Thank you for that, the world is a much better place for that....


    Somebody get my 12 gauge net so we can scoop this turd out of the gene pool.

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  39. slashdot logic by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 1

    11:52 AM, CST: MPAA announces major anti-piracy initiative, including summary in-theater executions of people carrying in video cameras.

    Slashdot response: Boooo! Burn the MPAA! Down with Hollywood! Help, help, we're being repressed! Boycott all MPAA movies forever, support independent cinema!

    12:28 PM, CST: $MPAA_afillitaed_studio releases trailer for $shitty_summer_scifi/horror_movie. (or the next Matrix rehash, or Lord of the Rings: part n+1, or Star Trek: We can't believe anyone still watches these movies, or whatever)

    Slashdot Response: oooh! shiny! I wanna shell out $7 to the forces of evil see this!

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  40. The Matrix meets Blade by darrad · · Score: 1

    Cool...i think....hmmmm.....

    Be worth buying off the 6.49 rack at Wal Mart.....

  41. Vamp vs Werewolves been around since 1920s ... by Viewsonic · · Score: 2, Informative

    When there were several pulp magazines dealing with Vampires vs Werewolves and underground societies etc .. This isn't anything UNIQUE that they came up with...

  42. WTF? by fluxrad · · Score: 2, Funny

    It looks like the dialogue goes something like this:

    Wolfeus: "Take the red pill and you turn into a warewolf. Take the blue pill and you turn into a vampire...and I show you just how deep this vampire hole goes."

    Gothic-Neo: "Woah!"

    The pitch to get this shit made probably went something like, "Ok, it's The Matrix meets Buffy meets Romeo and Juliet meets Ishtar!"

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  43. Agree, note url for movie... by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    http://EnterTheUnderworld.com

    Sound familiar?

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  44. Matrix? Come on... by edgecrusher · · Score: 1

    All these comments about this film being "yet another matrix rip off"... ever considered the fact that the matrix effects are a direct take on some of the eastern greats? Films *like* Iron Monkey and Crouching Tiger were around long before the matrix.

    This film is just another western interpretation of eastern film styles. And like 90% of hollywood productions now it's going to be anther fun popcorn flick.

    1. Re:Matrix? Come on... by libnatel · · Score: 1

      iron monkey was done by the same special effects guy as the matrix. how can he rip off himself?

  45. Re:I can see a lawsuit waiting to happen. by EddydaSquige · · Score: 1

    My thoughts exactly. True, as others have posted, White Wolf does not have complete IP rights to the concept of Vampire VS Werewolves. That said, my first exposure to this movie was a couple weeks ago when a friend of mine who works on the Sony movie websites showed me the design concepts (I did not see any real movie content, this was all web marketing shit), my first thought, just based on the visuals, was "Is this a White Wolf movie?", and my second was "This looks like a real piece of shit, my god they'll make anything into a movie these days". Just my two cents.

  46. "...meets Ishtar" by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 1

    "Ok, it's The Matrix meets Buffy meets Romeo and Juliet meets Ishtar!"

    Well, I guess time will tell on that. I assume you mean "It'll have super action and FX, star-crossed lovers, and IT'LL SUCK." Funny :-) Though, to be fair, "Romeo and Juliet" was hardly an original plot even in Wm. Shakspere's time...

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  47. Vampire and Werewolves with the Time Machine by LuxFX · · Score: 2

    I had the great fortune of taking a class in college on Vampire mythology (very cool class) and one of the really interesting revelations is that the mythology of the vampire and the mythology of the werewolf have the same roots. Many hundreds of years ago, and in many culture across the globe, the two were the same beast.

    I only probably hoping beyond hope, but it would be fantastic if this movie would reference that somehow. It would be almost like H. G. Wells' The Time Machine, where humans evolved in two branches, the Elois and the Morlocks.

    (well, maybe mythological creatures don't take as long to evolve -- or maybe they simple evolve at the same rate as the myths that are based on them)

    well, it would be cool anyway...

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  48. Q: what band does the song for that trailer? by kyoorius · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know the name of the song & band that does the song in the trailer?

    It's also used in the "Time & Tide" trailer - a pretty good Hong Kong action movie by Tsui Hark. Check it out.

    ~kyoorius

  49. Underworld, WTF? by w1r3sp33d · · Score: 1

    This lacks Everything Everything.

  50. Game: the Subtitle by lysander · · Score: 2

    There's a Vampire crossover supplement to Paranoia. They refer to the original as Game: the Subtitle.

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  51. Direct High Quality QuickTime link: by FireMage · · Score: 1

    A high quality 15 megabyte Quicktime version is avalible here.

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    1. Re:Direct High Quality QuickTime link: by coolmacdude · · Score: 1

      I think it should be a requirement that all movie trailers be on the Apple Quicktime site. The quality on everything else pales in comparison.

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  52. So by SyFryer · · Score: 1

    It is a movie of Vampire: The masquerade.

    Either its with their blessing or not, its still looking like it will be shit.

  53. Totally Original Plot??? by JustAnotherReader · · Score: 1
    Original Plot? Well let's watch the trailer and pick out the influences.

    • Sword/thunder sound effects during opening cuts : Lord of the Rings
    • Girl in shiny skin tight leather : Matrix
    • And black trench coat : Matrix
    • Shooting straight armed in subway with tiled walls : Matrix
    • Bad guys running into hallway with guns and aiming at empty wall : Matrix
    • Girl on top of building surveying the city : Ghost in the Shell
    • Surveying the GOTH city : Vampire Hunter D
    • Same girl jumping off of tall building : Ghost in the Shell (except she has clothes on)
    • And landing hard and walking away : Just about any Anime.
    • Wolf things crawling on walls : Bram Stoker's Dracula
    • Straight arm face hit which flips the opponent 270 degrees : Matrix
    • Character running way faster than humanly possible : Matrix
    • And jumping on a car and stabbing through the roof : Many movies. Didn't they do that in Blade?
    The only thing missing is the slow motion dive away from the expanding fireball. Looks like a typical Hollywood movie.
    1. Re:Totally Original Plot??? by oogoliegoogolie · · Score: 1

      I am so sick of these under 15 year olds that think that the universe started with the Matrix. The Matrix was a great movie, but every movie that comes out now that has slow motion shots and long black coats is now a Matrix rip off? Kid, these have been in movies ever since movies began, and became popular in the 60's, if not earlier.

      Here's a better list.

      -Sword/thunder sound effects during opening cuts:Excalibur
      -Girl in shiny skin tight leather:Grease
      -And black trench coat:Pale Rider
      -Shooting straight armed in subway with tiled walls-Beverly Hills Cop I and II
      -Bad guys running into hallway with guns and aiming at empty wall:Miami Vice
      -Girl on top of building surveying the city:Batman
      -Surveying the GOTH city:Batman
      -Same girl jumping off of tall building:Bionic Woman
      -And landing hard and walking away:Bionic Woman
      -Wolf things crawling on walls:Ghostbusters
      -Straight arm face hit which flips the opponent 270 degrees:Mortal Combat
      -Character running way faster than humanly possible:like come on, you can't be so naive to think that the matrix was the first to to this? The Six million Dollar man
      -And jumping on a car and stabbing through the roof :Exactly, many movies:Terminator for one, T2 for another

      So what's next? A movie has a car jumping over somthing so it is copying Dukes of Hazzard? Or because Vin Diesel is is bald he is copying Kojak, who copied Yul Brinner? Of course I doubt you know any of these people or shows I mentioned.

  54. Re:I can see a lawsuit waiting to happen. by Teknogeek · · Score: 1

    Yeah. I mean, unless you've got the Sabbat acting as PENTEX enforcers in exchange for a fresh cup of blood every week, you're not exactly going to see much of a war between vampires and werewolves.

    You might see a vamp get his fanged butt kicked if he tries to feed on a homid, but other than that...

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  55. Holy freakin' Matrix rip-off Batman !!! by Phantom_24 · · Score: 1

    Are the directors/producers THAT stupid to think that most people will see the similarities IN JUST THE COMMERCIAL!!!

    Oh yeah...and Kate Beckinsale looks H-O-T in patent leather....hubba hubba....

    1. Re:Holy freakin' Matrix rip-off Batman !!! by Phantom_24 · · Score: 1

      And let's hope Van Helsing does not suck OR rip off as much as this appears to do !

      Isn't Beckinsale in THAT one too ??

    2. Re:Holy freakin' Matrix rip-off Batman !!! by Phantom_24 · · Score: 1

      Time will tell.....

      http://www.vanhelsingmovie.com/

  56. The Real Ghostbusters should be pissed by User+956 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The writers of The Real Ghostbusters (yeah, remember that cartoon?) should be pissed. A war of vampires vs werewolves?

    I seem to remember an episode called No one comes to Lupusville that features that same story.

    White Wolf seems to have stolen most of its premise lock, stock and barrel.

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    1. Re: The Real Ghostbusters should be pissed by Omniscient+Ferret · · Score: 1

      I fondly remember that show. Checking that link, I was also really surprised to see that JMS, that Babylon 5 writer, wrote for The Real Ghostbusters.

      Cool.

  57. Already seen it... by zorcon · · Score: 1

    Yeah, seen parts of this trailor three times before before. 50% from The Matrix trailor and 30% from the X-Men trailor and another 20% from the X-2 trailor.

    Seems too little too late to me! ::yawn::

    Damn, can I add another 10% somewhere for The Crow?

  58. Re:If someone only tapped whitewolf's creative gen by geekoid · · Score: 1

    You could not pack the depth into a movie.

    I would perfer the did WW and had the werewolves kick ass.

    FTR: best vampire movie: "Love at first bite."

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  59. No by geekoid · · Score: 1

    Most people who go to the movies are that stupid.

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  60. I don't know the specific title of the track... by Cygnus17 · · Score: 1

    ...but I'm 90% positive it was on the soundtrack for The Jackal.

    Damned good CD, too, as I remember.

    Either that or The Matrix, which would make much more sense. :D

  61. Matrix III vs UnderWorld by digismack · · Score: 1

    I personally will go see both of these, but I wonder why in hell the makers of UnderWorld would be putting out a movie in the same timeframe of the third Matrix film. Do they not know they can't compete?

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  62. Re:I can see a lawsuit waiting to happen. by fenix+down · · Score: 1

    If they can get away with pretending that this guy isn't Vampire Hunter D, I think they'll be ok.

  63. Coming this summer by fenix+down · · Score: 1

    Woman: "Oh my God! That dingo ate my baby!"
    Kevin & Cuba: "Here we go again!"

  64. Re:I hear ya by fenix+down · · Score: 1

    Why, yes, Joel Silver does have a small penis!

  65. Production was probably more fun to watch... by BudaDude · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This movie was filmed in Budapest, and much of that took place within a few blocks of my house. One night I got to lean out my living room window and watch them slide a new Maserati around on the wet cobblestones for about 3 hours until they finally pitched the car into the wall of a building and had to wrap for the evening.

    They had a great artificial torrential downpour, too!

    I am willing to bet 2000 Forints that watching the movie being made was much more fun that watching the final product in the theater!

    - Christian
    Budapest, Hungary

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  66. Re:I can see a lawsuit waiting to happen. by Nagatzhul · · Score: 1

    I think there is a whole generation of folks who missed the vampire versus werewolf books and movies of the 50s, 60s, and 70s.

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