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Barcodes: The Number of the Beast

writes "The concept of UPC barcodes on packages at the grocery store is a little pedestrian these days. Much creativity has gone into the use of barcodes for many more applications than originally conceived (don't worry -- no Cuecat diatribe here!). For example, Scott Blake uses barcodes to create large, mosaic works of art. Andy Deck has reinvented classic literature with Bardcode which will stream the entire works of Shakespeare to you as barcodes. If you do nothing else, check out Art Lebedev, a group of Russian artists that manipulates photos to reveal hidden bar codes (The nod to Abbey Road in New Beatles By Robert Dyomkin is especially appealing to an ex-scouser like me). "

Boomzilla continues: Barcodes were first developed in the railroad business to keep track of which cars went with which engine. The barcodes were imprinted on the side of the railway cars. The barcodes on each car could then be read together to compile information on that particular grouping; what station they came from, where they were headed, etc. thus automating the process of marshalling. When the business world realized how well this system worked, these railway barcodes evolved into the UPC system with which we are all familiar. To really be able to take in the wonder that are bar codes, check out the excellent FAQ created by Russ Adams and an article from the BBC.

Coming full circle, the clever folks at Bekonscot Model Railway in the UK have utilized barcodes at every turn of their expansive system. For example, an MP3 player is driven off barcodes attached to trains. The trains are announced before they arrive and when they are leaving, stating their destination, route and at what stations they will call.

Want a barcode of your name?

273 comments

  1. So wouldn't it be interesting if... by freerangegeek · · Score: 0, Funny

    Bill Gate's picture were made of barcodes from products Micro$oft 'destroyed' through illegal competition. I'm sure there are plenty of them ;)

    1. Re:So wouldn't it be interesting if... by reelbk · · Score: 0, Troll

      Oh my god! hahaha, LOL, what a hoot.
      Standard slashdot douchebag joke recipe:
      - 1 cup of anti M.S tripe
      - 1 pinch of slashdot story (MS content optional because they're always relevant)
      - 1 ripe douchebag
      - 3 teaspoons of jealousy

      Mix them all together in one big tub and spread generously over the comments section.

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    2. Re:So wouldn't it be interesting if... by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      RFQ: Can we plase add a "-1: Fargin' Icehole" moderation?

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    3. Re:So wouldn't it be interesting if... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yo, chill dude. That pole is a little too far up your ass today.

    4. Re:So wouldn't it be interesting if... by Call+Me+Black+Cloud · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No it wouldn't.

  2. Stupid Games by rwiedower · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What about all those games that came out a year or so ago with commercials exhorting kids to run around grocery stores ripping things off of shelves in an attempt to "power up" their videogame creatures? Those were cool...er...stupid.

    1. Re:Stupid Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, that kept my kids out of my hair when I had to take them to the supermarket!

    2. Re:Stupid Games by Unknown+Lamer · · Score: 1

      It would be interesting to see if Steve Baker had anything to do with that because he said a few things a long time ago on the Indrema games mailing list about something eerily similar (as in, I jumped out of my skin when I saw the ad for them on tv).

      My son has been on to me to write a Pokemon type of game. I've also aquired one of those CueCat barcode readers and I was thinking about using bar-codes to provide a random-ish number into a widget that would use some kind of 'genetics' to generate an entirely new monster without human intervention.
      ....
      The idea would be that you'd have to search your food cupboards, CD collections, etc to find that perfect bar code that would generate a killer monster...but the underlying (and hopefully, well disguised) Rock-Paper-Scissor paradigm would ensure that there could never, ever be an undefeatable monster... although it might take days of randomly scanning cans of soup to find just the exact 'Rock-critter' you need to beat the 'Scissor-monster' that's been savaging your collection of 'Paper-beasts'.

      That message was posted on December 8th, 2000 (therefore predating the game as far as I know).

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  3. so uh... cool or not? by AssFace · · Score: 5, Funny

    I got a big tattoo of my SSN in barcode format right on my forehead.

    That way people know who I am.

    It is unclear from any of those links if this makes me cool or not.

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    1. Re:so uh... cool or not? by Blaine+Hilton · · Score: 1
      So what price are you?

      Go calculate something

    2. Re:so uh... cool or not? by JUSTONEMORELATTE · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I got a big tattoo of my SSN in barcode format right on my forehead.

      That way people know who I am.

      It is unclear from any of those links if this makes me cool or not.
      Without even checking on the links, I can answer.
      This does not make you cool.
      I'm not saying you're not cool, but if you are, it would be in spite of your forehead, not because of it.

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    3. Re:so uh... cool or not? by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      Or you could be like this guy: Man puts faith in name tag After all, not everyone carries a barcode reader.

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    4. Re:so uh... cool or not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you get it backwards so you can read it in the mirror?

    5. Re:so uh... cool or not? by AssFace · · Score: 0

      mirror or not, if memory serves, it shouldn't matter - bar codes are palindromes

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    6. Re:so uh... cool or not? by AssFace · · Score: 1

      I did something really very similar a few years back, except that instead of a removable nametag, I had "HERPES" tattooed on my cheekbones in gangsta script.

      That guy in the article was annoyed with people not being friendly enough in regards to his nametag - he should try that face tattoo and he will see some seriously unfriendly people.

      them bitches never wanted to make out

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    7. Re:so uh... cool or not? by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      I've read that a nuclear-armed sidecar creates politeness. (Perhaps we should test the phrase "A [nuclear] armed society is a polite society"? :^)

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    8. Re:so uh... cool or not? by AssFace · · Score: 1

      Snow Crash is a fun read

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    9. Re:so uh... cool or not? by kesuki · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, It certainly doesn't make you a geek.
      After all if you wanted to be a geek you could always have a barcode of slashdot.org tattoed there.
      Like this one...
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    10. Re:so uh... cool or not? by kesuki · · Score: 1

      Well apparently I don't know how to post a gif to slashdot... so here.
      odd... that files was only 2.3 kb when I uploded it, and now it looks crappier and is 3kb in thumbnail...

    11. Re:so uh... cool or not? by JonKatzIsAnIdiot · · Score: 1

      Not sure about cool, but if you shaved yourself bald and put the barcode at the base of your skull, a lot of gamers would probably find it amusing.

  4. Use on railroads by Smallpond · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The use on train cars was not without problems. Some roads ran the cars through a sprayer before trying to read the codes. Union Switch & Signal installed competing systems that used inductive loops; obviously more expensive but high reliability.

    1. Re:Use on railroads by PerlGuru · · Score: 1

      here is a link to the model railroad referenced in the last link... the link is to a case study w/ no pictures :-(

      http://www.bekonscot.org.uk/index_railway.asp

    2. Re:Use on railroads by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Back in school, when they took us on a field trip where railway people explained the switching yard and routing system for cars, I always liked the idea of having my own (disgused) car and hacking the system by changing the code on the side.

      This was before I'd seen a computer. :^)

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    3. Re:Use on railroads by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
      I certainly didn't expect 6 mods used on that post. It was just a brain-fart of past memories. Although, it was perhaps my first awakening to the idea that if you have this huge system for routing things and you tell it a simple lie, you can control it. Ironic if my hacker roots have railroad beginings. (MIT TMRC ref.)

      Hmm, hacking (dark side, evil!) UPC codes by applying your own sticker to the product? That would be wrong.

      And I wonder what the railroad "ping" time is to the left-coast these days?

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  5. Barcodes by Luigi30 · · Score: 0

    Barcodes would be a good way of keeping track of prisoners to see where they are and have been.

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    1. Re:Barcodes by Uber+Banker · · Score: 1

      Don't we aleady do that - by keeping records?

      Are you suggesting tatooing them? Tatoos can be forged v. v. easily and infringe them after thay have 'served their time' and deemed to have now 'paid for their crimes'.

    2. Re:Barcodes by perimorph · · Score: 1

      No, no.. The current phrase is "has been rehabilitated"!

    3. Re:Barcodes by The_K4 · · Score: 1

      Ok, you do realize that this was done in NAZI GERMANY! \sarcasim\Yeah, great system, worked well for them.\end sarcasim\

    4. Re:Barcodes by Uber+Banker · · Score: 1

      haha! thanx!

      rehabilitated... many ppl know what it means but how many know what habilitation is in the first place?

      Webster's suggests 'to entitle' as the closest interpretable meaning, which, as a habilitated citizen, I'm OK with.

  6. The Real Number of the Beast by rwiedower · · Score: 1

    Actually, the number is right here.

  7. The sign of the beast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you look at some barcodes on products, you will see that the number 6 corresponds to 2 thin lines with small spacing between them. Then you will also notice that all barcodes start with 6, have a 6 in the middle, and end with 6. So every product bought and sold with a barcode contains 666, the sign of the beast...

    1. Re:The sign of the beast by rifter · · Score: 1

      Actually, you are wrong. You can see what they are talking about by carefully studying this code and comparing it to the other codes.

    2. Re:The sign of the beast by rifter · · Score: 1

      erg, slashdot ate my link.

    3. Re:The sign of the beast by PhuCknuT · · Score: 1

      The number 6 corresponds to 7 lines, just like every other number in a barcode. The 666 barcode thing is complete bullshit. Learn about what you're talking about before spreading misinformation.

  8. useful at last by ciroknight · · Score: 2

    Glad to see those things got a use past Mail in rebates. Never did like sending in those UPCs though, seems like a huge hassle for a little picture of a bunch of bars. Why can't they just be like removeable stamps that you just tape to the envelope or something? oh well, so much for my troll. btw, nice artwork.

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    1. Re:useful at last by gurps_npc · · Score: 1
      Because if they could be easily removed for mail in rebates, scumbags would go through the stores, removing them from boxes they are not buying.

      Store employees will however notice someone cutting out little squares from all the cardboard boxes.

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    2. Re:useful at last by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 3, Informative

      At the grocery store where I shop, they put removable UPC codes on the large items like 25# bags of dog food so that you can peel it off to hand the cashier, rather than loading it on the conveyor and watching them try to flop it around to get the UPC side facing the laser and then dragging it quickly enough over the sensor to register. You could theoretically peel the lablel off of the generic dog food and load your cart up with Alpo, but that would be illegal.

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    3. Re:useful at last by ciroknight · · Score: 2, Interesting

      yeah but you still have to have a reciept :-/, and since most plastically sealed things with rebates (cd players, other cheap electronic goods) have the upcs behind the plastic, you have to wrestle the plastic for like an hour before it gives up the item, then you have to hunt through the piles of discard to find and cut out a little barcode, that is if it isnt destroyed in the first process....

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    4. Re:useful at last by Honig+the+Apothecary · · Score: 1

      My former employer makes polyurethane foam (Think Great Stuff or any other of the foam hole fillers, just mixed in a different ratio and in different colors) flower pots. We stapled a header card to the bottom of every pot with the barcode information on there. Worked well until people started switching the barcodes for the 14" pot(~$10.00) to the 24" pot (~26.00)> Needless to say, the stores were a little pissed. So we came up with a adhesive label that would stick to polyurethane foam. Not the easiest thing to stick to, espcially with paint on them.
      And barcode labels were a PITA to run at any high speeds on the Zebra 140s we used. Thank god I left that hell hole.
      Honig

    5. Re:useful at last by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At IKEA [furniture store] they use wireless scanners to read the codes off the trolly since most of their items are big. The less hi-tech B&Q just has longish cables on their scanners.

    6. Re:useful at last by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I read an article a few months back [Canadian press] a popular fraud right now is to "peel off" UCP codes of cheap products (1.55$ bar of soap) and stick it on a very expensive item (box of 12 luxurious soap 22.95$).

      In the last few years cashiers took the habit of swipping the products real fast; now they must really *pay* attention at each scan to see if the product fits the description and if the price makes sense. The scam is probably not here yet (L.A.) they still scan without looking, it would be 3x longer to check each items.

      The 'pros' will even use software to scan products at home and print the UPC on stickers for the next shoping spree.

  9. Re:RF tags: Not just for tagging consumers' clothe by Uber+Banker · · Score: 1

    A surpremely ironic post, sir.

  10. Well sheesh. by Faust7 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Barcodes: The Number of the Beast

    It never occurred to me that Satan might be living in my UPC symbols. Now I need a priest to accompany me to the grocery store.

    1. Re:Well sheesh. by Blademan007 · · Score: 1

      The "Barcodes: The Number of the Beast" was, IIRC, used in the movie "
      Naked" in which the protagonist has a major discourse of an impending The End, including a barcode speel.

    2. Re:Well sheesh. by Thud457 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Ah, for the halcyon days of pre-internet conspiracy theory. We were much less jaded then!

      We're used to much more potent lunacy these days.

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  11. Tattoo, not the little guy that yells at planes by Jerry+Jigglenuts · · Score: 2, Funny

    This reminds me of a recent escapade that my good friend Julius and I recently blundered through. Our favorite magazine is "Club", a prestigious journalistic wonderworld of intelligence and quality. We decided to have the barcode for that magizine tatoo'd onto our male members. Painful, yet oddly spiritual.

    1. Re:Tattoo, not the little guy that yells at planes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Almost as bad as this one

  12. Barcodes have 666 encoded on them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Allow me to explain...

    Standard UPC bar codes consist of a set of lines to mark the start of the code, the left hand part of the code itself, another set of marker lines, the right hand part of the code itself, and a third set of marker lines:
    ] ] IIIIII I I IIIIII [ [
    ] ] IIIIII I I IIIIII [ [
    ] ] IdataI I I IdataI [ [
    ] ] IIIIII I I IIIIII [ [
    ] ] IIIIII I I IIIIII [ [
    ] ] .5023. I I .7173. [ [
    The marker lines are "0101", "01010" and "1010" respectively, where 0 is white and 1 is black.

    Now, the encoding scheme is complicated, but it just so happens that "0101" if treated as data on the left hand side would decode to the digit "6".
    Similarly, "1010" on the right hand side would decode to a "6" if it were data. The middle also has a "1010" or a "0101" depending upon how you want to look at it.

    Hence every UPC bar code has "6...6...6" built into it.

    There are some technical niggles with the theory. The middle marker has that extra white bar on the left, but this can be explained away by saying that a gap is needed before the next coded part starts, or that it is to make the thing scan both ways. Yup, it even reads "666" if you play it backwards.

    In "The Master of Space and Time" Rudy Rucker jokes about this theory by having an alternate universe where people pay for their groceries by having the checkout operator swipe a UPC code that's tattooed on their foreheads.
    1. Re:Barcodes have 666 encoded on them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    2. Re:Barcodes have 666 encoded on them? by Zaphod+B · · Score: 1

      And people complain Slashdotters don't have any hobbies!

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    3. Re:Barcodes have 666 encoded on them? by delta407 · · Score: 5, Informative
      Standard UPC bar codes consist of a set of lines to mark the start of the code, the left hand part of the code itself, another set of marker lines, the right hand part of the code itself, and a third set of marker lines:
      True, but there's an important distinction. This only applies to UPC-A, not to other forms of barcodes such as Code 39, Code 128, interleaved 2 of 5, Codabar, etc. (I'm pretty sure it doesn't even apply to UPC-E, for that matter, but I'm not certain.)

      To say that every barcode contains 666 is somewhat misleading.
    4. Re:Barcodes have 666 encoded on them? by rabidcow · · Score: 1, Informative

      Each number in a UPC barcode is represented by 4 stripes. White/black is irrelevant to the number itself, the barcode has to alternate black and white, and the right half is inverted (or the left depending on your point of view)

      Data is encoded not in the color, but in the width of each bar. There are three (I think, maybe four) bar widths, narrow, medium, and wide. Three narrow bars and a wide one represent a 6. If there is no wide bar, it is not a 6.

      There are four narrow bars on either end, and five in the center for synchronizing the scanner to the code. You wouldn't interpret the start, stop, and parity bits on a serial port as data, would you?

    5. Re:Barcodes have 666 encoded on them? by delta407 · · Score: 1
      And to say anything about barcodes at all, let alone knowing the names of several different kinds of barcodes, is super nerdy.
      Perhaps, but then again, I get paid to work on LISSARD, and one of my projects is to build a library system. That is why I know this. ;-)

      Please take a break from your nerdiness and try to gather up the courage to talk with a female. You really need it.
      LOL!
    6. Re:Barcodes have 666 encoded on them? by Keith+Russell · · Score: 5, Informative
      Now, the encoding scheme is complicated, but... Hence every UPC bar code has "6...6...6" built into it.

      Um, no.

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    7. Re:Barcodes have 666 encoded on them? by FooCuff · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, but can you explain why books I buy at Borders bookstores have UPCs on stickers that they put over the UPCs that come preprinted on the book? Are they hip to this whole number of the beast thing and looking out for my immortal soul or what? :)

    8. Re:Barcodes have 666 encoded on them? by delta407 · · Score: 5, Informative
      Yes, but can you explain why books I buy at Borders bookstores have UPCs on stickers that they put over the UPCs that come preprinted on the book?
      Possibly. First, it may not actually be a UPC that it is covering -- it could be EAN-13 or some other type. Second, even if it is covering a UPC, it may not be replacing it with UPC. Borders may use their own internal barcoding system.

      Third, a fair number of manufacturers don't always obtain a valid block of UPCs, they just print with a number that they hope to be unique. (It's actually quite common to have collisions in any reasonably large store.) Thus, the retailer may have replaced one UPC with a different one to ensure that both items were uniquely identifiable.
      Are they hip to this whole number of the beast thing and looking out for my immortal soul or what? :)
      Oh, it was a joke. ;-)

      Anyway, if they actually replaced one UPC with another, you'd still have 666 (if you want to call it that) on your book.
    9. Re:Barcodes have 666 encoded on them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, no. That link is refering to EAN-13 encoding which isn't the same as UPC encoding. Their argument is invalid since the '666' argument is related to UPC and not EAN-13.

      Um, yes. 666 isn't in UPC either. Inside of the sync bits, a 6 is represented as 010111 on the left side and 101000 on the right side, iirc. UPC (not EAN-13) contains a 101 encoding (not a full digit encoding) before and after and 01010 (doesn't represent anything in UPC encoding) in the middle.

      My God, they're sync bits, not the end of the world!

    10. Re:Barcodes have 666 encoded on them? by PhuCknuT · · Score: 1

      Not true, the number 6 is actually 1010000, 7 lines just like every other digit in a bar code. not one of the supposed 6's in the barcode is actually a 6, just a subset of one.

    11. Re:Barcodes have 666 encoded on them? by letxa2000 · · Score: 1
      Now, the encoding scheme is complicated, but it just so happens that "0101" if treated as data on the left hand side would decode to the digit "6".

      It's so complicted, in fact, that you don't understand it. Every digit in a UPC barcode consists of a total or 7 element widths (X) which are made up of 2 bars and 2 spaces of varying width. The left-side representation of the digit "6" is 0000101 which means a 4-wide space, a 1-wide bar, a 1-wide space, and 1-wide bar (for a total width of 7).

      Using your definition of "0101" (space,bar,space,bar) or of 1010 (bar,space,bar,space), EVERY digit in a UPC-A barcode is the number of the beast since every digit consists of a space,bar,space,bar sequence or a bar,space,bar,space sequence--not just "6".

      Hence every UPC bar code has "6...6...6" built into it.

      Hence you don't know what you're talking about.

      I suggest you read this page for an explanation of UPC-A and EAN-13 encoding since it is clear your understanding is lacking.

    12. Re:Barcodes have 666 encoded on them? by letxa2000 · · Score: 1
      First, it may not actually be a UPC that it is covering -- it could be EAN-13 or some other type... Third, a fair number of manufacturers don't always obtain a valid block of UPCs, they just print with a number that they hope to be unique.

      Barcodes printed on books are Bookland code, which is really the ISBN number of the book expressed as an EAN-13 barcode. Unless the books don't have valid ISBN numbers it is unlikely that there would be any conflicts between books.

    13. Re:Barcodes have 666 encoded on them? by CorporateProgrammerD · · Score: 1
      Yeah, but part of the code is the price. Or may be the price. Sometimes it's 0.00. So in order to get a price they need to a)put it in a lookup table, or b) print a new sticker.

      A new sticker also comes in handy for changing prices.

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    14. Re:Barcodes have 666 encoded on them? by fortz2 · · Score: 1

      Barcodes printed on books are Bookland code, which is really the ISBN number of the book expressed as an EAN-13 barcode. Unless the books don't have valid ISBN numbers it is unlikely that there would be any conflicts between books.

      All mass market paperbacks have a UPC code on the back. In order to reconstruct the ISBN from this code, you need both a second 5-digit bar code (found to the right of the UPC) and a look-up table to match UPC manufacturer id codes to ISBN publisher id codes. This is done because mass market editions are commonly sold at supermarkets and other places that may have old scanners incapable of reading EAN-13 codes.

      These books will usually (always?) have the correct Bookland EAN inside the front cover, which is why you sometimes see bookstores scanning this code instead. The extra five digit code to the right of the EAN encodes the Suggested Retail Price, or 90000 if the SRP is not included.

      Also, UPC allows for stores assigning their own UPCs without actually owning a block. All codes beginning with (I think) 4 (it may be another digit, I don't have time to look it up right now) are designated for the use of individuals. Thus, they aren't necessarily unique between two stores, but the store should be able to guarantee uniqueness within itself.

    15. Re:Barcodes have 666 encoded on them? by letxa2000 · · Score: 1
      The 5-digit extension encodes the price, optionally. But very few barcode systems really use this to determine sales price. Any decent system will have a database of products and a price to go with it. To change the price you just change the price in the database rather than generating a bunch of new barcode stickers and slapping it on the existing merchandise.

    16. Re:Barcodes have 666 encoded on them? by rifter · · Score: 1

      No, and we have given links as to why you are wrong. the lines you depict would *not* decode to a 6. That is why you are wrong. They are also, as you freely admit, markers and not number codes.

  13. Sweet Christ! by FortKnox · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How did I ever go on in life without know this stuff?

    I'm trying to replace my useless trivia knowledge with something more worthy of knowing. This isn't helping...

    So, seriously, what's up with the barcode expose? Is it that slow of a news day?

    --
    Good quote, too many chars. Seriously, the slashdot 120 char limit sucks!
    1. Re:Sweet Christ! by ahaning · · Score: 1

      Alpha
      Bravo
      Charlie
      Delta
      Echo
      Foxtrot
      Golf
      Hotel
      India
      Juliette
      Kilo
      Lima
      Mike
      November
      Oscar
      Papa
      Quebec
      Romeo
      Sierra
      Tango
      Uniform
      Victor
      Whiskey
      X-Ray
      Yankee
      Zulu

      No, it wasn't necessary for me to sit around one evening memorizing the phonetic alphabet. It did come in handy, once, when talking to IBM tech support when they read some letters off like that and I didn't have to go "huh?".

      It's just trivia. You never know -- someday, someone will wonder out loud "How do barcodes work?" and you'll be able to tell them. You will probably scare them, but they will also probably refrain from wondering out loud around you ever again.

      --
      Withdrawal before climax is very ineffective and those who try this are usually called "parents."
    2. Re:Sweet Christ! by jpaz · · Score: 1

      Is it that slow of a news day?

      Would you prefer dupes?

    3. Re:Sweet Christ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It did come in handy, once, when talking to IBM tech support when they read some letters off like that and I didn't have to go "huh?".

      Hey moron, even if you don't have the phonetic alphabet memorized, if somebody says "Tango" to you, you can pretty much assume they are talking about the letter "T" because that is what "Tango" starts with. Or is that leap in logic a little to difficult for you?

    4. Re:Sweet Christ! by ahaning · · Score: 1

      Or is that leap in logic a little to[sic] difficult for you?

      Why, yes, it would have been; just as I'm sure it would be a stretch for many other people to immediately think "Ah, he's speaking words to me rather than letters because I can more easily distinguish them on the phone. All I need to do is consider the first letter of each word.".

      I'd bet that the first time you heard someone speaking in the phonetic alphabet, you caught on right away. Or, the first time you saw someone's ham callsign you thought "Oscar 9 Lima Zulu 7", or whatever. Riight.

      --
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    5. Re:Sweet Christ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's "Oscar Niner Lima Zulu Seven" to you, buddy!

    6. Re:Sweet Christ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Would you prefer dupes?
      Would you prefer dupes?

      Sorry.

  14. Barcodes by methangel · · Score: 1

    We need smartchips, not barcodes.

  15. 666 by gpinzone · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The 666 bugaboo has been attributed to so many different things, it's impossible for anyone to take it seriously. The pope, Ronal Regan, barcodes, socal security numbers, driver's licenses, you name it.

    1. Re:666 by CausticWindow · · Score: 1

      And just how would you take it seriously?

      --
      How small a thought it takes to fill a whole life
    2. Re:666 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Simple, just become a Jesus freak! They'll believe anything!

    3. Re:666 by jensend · · Score: 1
  16. Does anyone remember?? by ranolen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Does anyone remember the game barcode battlers??? You used bar codes from anything you could find and swipe them through a reader and they would give you stats for your character to fight other characters. Really neat idea. Ahh early 90's technology... hehe.

    1. Re:Does anyone remember?? by SoLoatWork · · Score: 1

      Ahh early 90's technology... hehe.

      Ahh.. innovation.

    2. Re:Does anyone remember?? by emilng · · Score: 1


      Sounds familiar. There is another toy that exists that uses the same idea. It's Skannerz by Radica.

    3. Re:Does anyone remember?? by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      Some game did something like that with CDs. You could put a CD in the game system and from it some odd monster would be generated from that data. I think Monster Rancher did that.

    4. Re:Does anyone remember?? by Kris_J · · Score: 1
      I've got one of those. I thought they were a great idea, even if the barcode was nothing more than a random number seed.

      Have you seen the "new" Nintendo e-reader? Original NES games encoded as 2D barcodes and emulated on the GBA.

    5. Re:Does anyone remember?? by riffraff · · Score: 1

      They still have something like that called Scannerz.

    6. Re:Does anyone remember?? by WWWWolf · · Score: 1

      Oh yes, the Barcode Battler. Interesting idea, not that charming implementation back in the day... It got boring pretty fast.

      Apparently there have been some revival of the idea (some game called Scannerz was being advertised here, I believe), but I have no idea if it's any better.

  17. UPC really universal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have seen UPC barcodes on everything, of course.

    Are they truly Universal? What is the namespace? Is there some trade association that keeps track of all of them? Or does each store have their own systems? How are collisions avoided? If you create a product, how do you register a UPC?

    How about different countries? Does France have a different barcodes (or a different barcode system) from the US? How about other parts of the [non-western] world?

    1. Re:UPC really universal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gah, missed the link in the article pointing to an excellent description ... $500/year at a minimum to have one or more UPC symbols, that seems a little steep.

    2. Re:UPC really universal by stoolpigeon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I can't all your questions but I can tell you unequivicolly that many UPCs in the U.S. are not unique. I worked for a while as a pricing analyst for Safeway food and drug. Dealing with duplicate UPCs was a problem.

      As I understand it-- there is a newer standard with longer barcodes and europe has moved to it but the u.s. still uses the older UPCs.

      --
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    3. Re:UPC really universal by ManInBlac · · Score: 2, Interesting

      European barcodes are indeed different from US ones. For example, US records will have a 12-digit UPC number, whereas European records will frequently have a a 13-digit EAN code. You can actually get several different length codes within both UPC (American) and EAN (European) systems. See e-centre for more info on EAN codes. Of course, this does mean that only American products contain the number of the beast. Make of that what you will.

    4. Re:UPC really universal by bungeejumper · · Score: 1

      And this is your second post for this article ! :-)

  18. Brothers Quay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rehearsal for extinct anatomies is a short animated film by the Brothers Quay that uses barcodes for backgrounds and sets. And as usual for their work, it's bizarre and surreal.

  19. Mark of the Beast? by mahdi13 · · Score: 3, Funny

    So exactly what does that bar code on the back on my neck mean? I had it scanned at the grocery store, it seems I'm cheap and can be bought for $6.66

    --
    "Some things have to be believed to be seen." - Ralph Hodgson
    1. Re:Mark of the Beast? by SlaterSan · · Score: 1

      No, it just means that you were on another FOX show that was cancelled.

  20. Summary inaccurate ... by BabyDave · · Score: 0

    Bar codes have been in use for much longer than that - see for example these animal barcodes

    1. Re:Summary inaccurate ... by Xerithane · · Score: 1

      Bar codes have been in use for much longer than that - see for example these animal barcodes.

      So has your reasoning skills.

      --
      Dacels Jewelers can't be trusted.
  21. Barcodes for DVDs Games CDs Video Games by muscleman706 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Mediachest.com lets you scan in the UPC's and ISBN's on the back of DVDs, Games, CDs, and video games and keep track of your collection. You can even use an CueCat to do this.

    http://www.mediachest.com/

  22. *nix the mark of the beast? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    what does it mean for a person to be able to read and write in user group world, without being able to execute?

    rw-rw-rw-
  23. SOMEONE PLEASE MODBOMB FORTCOCKS INTO OBLIVION!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  24. Barcodes go open source! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    !

    1. Re:Barcodes go open source! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cool. But were is the Win32 binary?

  25. My cat is a troll. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My cat has a chip.

    1. Re:My cat is a troll. by gurps_npc · · Score: 1, Funny
      My friend Chip has a cat. Maybe we should put a chip in the cat that belongs to Chip. And buy him a Cat construction machine.

      Then there would be a chip inside the cat, that belongs to the Chip inside the Cat.

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    2. Re:My cat is a troll. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And to read it, you'd type cat ~chip/cat/cat/chip.

    3. Re:My cat is a troll. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mod this up to the stars!

  26. Cuecat by nucal · · Score: 1
    From the Cuecat link:

    If you have a Cue Cat, save it. The patents and technology created by DigitalConvergence will again be available for business and consumer use.

    If you are looking for a Registration code or To be continued...

    Do you share this dream?

    I think that if you scan this one with a Cuecat, the world might end ...

  27. What exactly is involved... by duncanatlk · · Score: 1

    in becoming an 'ex-scouser'? Did you have to lose up your Liverpudlian accent?

    1. Re:What exactly is involved... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You probably have to stop stealing cars.

    2. Re:What exactly is involved... by bangzilla · · Score: 1

      Nah - I *still* have trouble with "Stair" (sturs), "fair" (fur) and "hair" (hur) :-)

      --
      Rich people are eccentric. Poor people are strange. Me, I'd be happy with odd.
  28. Info on barcodes... by H0NGK0NGPH00EY · · Score: 1

    For anyone who is interested, and doesn't already know: http://www.timandjeni.com/study/upc.html

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  29. 101 != 6 by ee_moss · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The 666 rumor comes about from illiterate, non-mathematical conspiracy theorists.. On a barcode, the black bars represent 1 and white bars represent 0. Most of us, I hope, understand that. When the barcode scanner reads the barcode, it must know when to start reading and stop reading, and it does this by finding the code "101" you see at the beginning and end of the barcode. Also, in the middle of every UPC is a 01010 combination, which basically tells the scanner that it has reached the middle of the barcode. The beginning, middle, and end lines are longer than the rest, and some people think that these longer lines represent the number 666. Actually, 101 in binary is 5, so if you are that paranoid and into conspiracy theories, the longs lines on the barcode read "555"

    1. Re:101 != 6 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      The 555 explanation comes about from illiterate, non-mathematical posters who don't realize that UPC barcodes aren't binary. If you look at the actual coding scheme, the bit sequence "101" actually *does* appear in the encoding for the number 6 (and 2,3,4,7, and 9). But you will not find "101" in the encoding for 5 on either side.

    2. Re:101 != 6 by rabidcow · · Score: 1

      When the barcode scanner reads the barcode, it must know when to start reading and stop reading, and it does this by finding the code "101" you see at the beginning and end of the barcode. Also, in the middle of every UPC is a 01010 combination, which basically tells the scanner that it has reached the middle of the barcode.

      The code on the ends is *not* 101, neither is the code in the middle 01010. Think of it more as ternary (or maybe base 4, I'm not up on my UPC trivia) encoded in the width of the bars, it's 000 or 00000. The proper code for a 6 is something like 0003.

    3. Re:101 != 6 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, self-righteous, technical, and wrong...a moment of slashdot greatness.
      barcodes are a quaternary system based on the width of the alternating black and white bands. a black band one unit across is a one, as is a white band one unit across.

    4. Re:101 != 6 by PhuCknuT · · Score: 1

      actually you're both wrong, all of the lines are 1 unit across. What appears to be a thick line in a barcode is 2 or more lines of the same color next to each other. And wether black is 1 or white is one is irrelevant, the system is designed so that each number has 2 codes, and the logical NOT operation converts from 1 code to the other. if you invert the colors on the numeric part of a barcode it will read the same.

  30. Re:SOMEONE PLEASE MODBOMB FORTCOCKS INTO OBLIVION! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you realize that fortknox has a powerful troll that everyone knows, right?
    the fortknox account is for karma whoring but piss people off at the same time.
    a damn good trolling account if i've ever seen one!

  31. Did anyone else read by Savatte · · Score: 3, Funny

    Andy Deck has reinvented classic literature with Bardcode

    Did anyone else read that as Andy Dick? I thought the only things andy dick did was get naked and fall down a lot.

    1. Re:Did anyone else read by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you considered that you may be a possible homersexual?

  32. Good ol' Art by lebedev · · Score: 1

    Artemy Lebedev has almost the same name as me!

  33. RFID by Ayanami+Rei · · Score: 4, Informative

    Even cooler than barcodes is RFID. You don't even have to aim to get it to scan correctly. The only problem is the printers that you let you arbitrarily mark the tags are expensive; about $1000, whereas barcodes can be printed on anything with black ink.

    BUT!!... optical scanners are expenive ($250 and up). Yet you can get a RFID USB reader for about $60. It comes with a few premade tags. You can buy pre-signed RFID tags for less than $1.00 each, and a sheet of them can usually be run through a printer; then you could have barcodes AND RFID.

    We're considering using such a system to do inventory control. Fun!

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    THIS THING CAN TURN ON A DIME, MACROSSZERO STYLE ALSO FUCK BETA, ~NYORON
    1. Re:RFID by 42forty-two42 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      We're considering using such a system to do inventory control. Fun!
      ...until someone drives up with a jamming transmitter. Panic!
    2. Re:RFID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yup! Ain't it grand?? With RFID, even your competitors will know your inventory!!!

      I love innovation.

    3. Re:RFID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for the site link...very useful. Any others?

    4. Re:RFID by 2short · · Score: 2, Interesting

      BUT!!... optical scanners are expenive ($250 and up).

      WTF are you talking about? I bought mine for $29.95. That was a few years back, but still...

    5. Re:RFID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF are you talking about? I got mine for free at radioshack. That was a few years back, when the whole cuecat thing was going on - you shouldn't have been paying good money for one!

    6. Re:RFID by lfourrier · · Score: 2, Interesting

      barcode and scanning equipement where paid by inflation.
      when they where introduced, in the mid eighties, there was about 12% inflation a year. the fact that the store was able, with barcoded articles, to increase price of articles without having to update the (no longuer present) tags on each articles permitted to finance the investement in about 6 month for a typical store.
      (they buy with a certain target price, they inflate price while stock is in inventory, and they pay providers a few month after the inventory is sold. even at the prices of 85, it was cheap for them. )

    7. Re:RFID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      in the mid eighties, there was about 12% inflation a year

      That is so full of crap. Inflation bottomed out at 1.86% in 1986, and aside from the mess that Carter left, inflation was very much under control throughout all of the Reagan years (mostly around 3-4%).

      http://eh.net/ehresources/howmuch/inflationq.php

    8. Re:RFID by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      Personally, I would have gone with the barcode system. The expensive RFID tagger either has to be moved to the merchandise (and potentially dropped and broken in the process) or have all the merchandise brought to it (which itself could be a nightmare). The barcode reader may be expensive, but you never have to move it.

    9. Re:RFID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Optical scanners are expensive, eh? That's why Radioshack was giving them away for free a while ago?

    10. Re:RFID by lfourrier · · Score: 1

      from above site:
      The inflation rate for the Unites States in the year 1980 is 13.48

    11. Re:RFID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1980 is not the "mid 80's", dumass.

  34. Obligatory crossover by 42forty-two42 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What about Star wars in ASCII in barcode?

  35. Messing with their heads by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 2, Funny
    "If you do nothing else, check out Art Lebedev, a group of Russian artists that manipulates photos to reveal hidden bar codes."

    If you do nothing else, be sure to raise the hair on the heads of these unsuspecting Russian artists as they see the traffic on their server spike beyond reason or expectation...
    -------------

    1. Re:Messing with their heads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Art. Lebedev group is Russia's leading Web design and development company. The produced sites for Microsoft Russia, HP Russia, Xerox Russia and so on. I am sure they can sustain the load.

  36. The artsy stuff is ok .... by Compulawyer · · Score: 2, Interesting
    but they seem to limit themselves to 1D barcodes. What about 2D codes like PDF417? 2D codes would seem to open up countless more possibilities for artistic use ....

    And Now For Something Completely Different: The definitive book on barcoding is "The Bar Code Book" by Roger C. Palmer (4th ed., (c) 2001 Helmers Publ., Inc., ISBN 0-911261-13-3). How do I know so much about barcodes? Trust me - you don't want to know.

    --

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    1. Re:The artsy stuff is ok .... by metamanda · · Score: 1

      2D barcode art can indeed be done

    2. Re:The artsy stuff is ok .... by jkitchel · · Score: 1

      You're right on the don't want to know how you know so much about bar codes. One of the classes for my major is an AIDC class (automatic identification and data capture). We used the same book that you mention. We were reviewing for a comprehensive final and my professor asked what separated code 128 from all of the rest. I blurted out the answer without even thinking about it and I scared the crap out of myself. THAT's when you know you've gone too far. :)

    3. Re:The artsy stuff is ok .... by Compulawyer · · Score: 1

      All I can say is that I wish you well on the road to your recovery. Unfortunately, I can't start that journey myself for a long time yet.

      --

      Laws affecting technology will always be bad until enough techies become lawyers.

  37. Barcodes have an incompatibility problem... by Boss,+Pointy+Haired · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...with the recruitment policy of our local hardware superstore.

    B&Q is a large DIY chain in the UK. They might be in the US, I don't know. They have a policy of only employing people over 95 years of age.

    So you get to the checkout with your self install kitchen. A little old 97 year old lady has now got to try and :

    a) locate the barcode on each item of your self-install kitchen, containing many items that are several orders of magnitude BIGGER THAN SHE IS.

    b) having located the barcode, get her scanner to it.

    1. Re:Barcodes have an incompatibility problem... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

      In one of the larger B&Qs in Glasgow, the scanners are fixed ones like on supermarket belts, because otherwise neds cut the flexible cable to the handheld ones when checkouts are left unattended. You do *not* want to go there to buy bags of cement...

    2. Re:Barcodes have an incompatibility problem... by Nexus+Seven · · Score: 1

      No B&Qs in the US.
      However The Home Depot use exactly the same store layouts/staff uniforms/color schemes/carts/baskets/logos, etc.
      In fact, they're so identical that there's clearly plaigarism involved by one side somewhere...

      Note the identical color schemes at Home Depot's website and B&Q's website

    3. Re:Barcodes have an incompatibility problem... by TopShelf · · Score: 1
      You've just made a strong case for RFID!

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    4. Re:Barcodes have an incompatibility problem... by demonbug · · Score: 1

      I know someone else must have asked this, but What in the Hell is a self install kitchen???

    5. Re:Barcodes have an incompatibility problem... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IKEA have wireless scanners, a lot easier

    6. Re:Barcodes have an incompatibility problem... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be from the New World. In the Old World a kitchen is a room connection points for water fixtures, electrical outlets, drains, and not much else. You want cabinets? Buy them and hang them on the wall. You want a sink/dishwasher/cooking stove/refirgerator? Buy them and install them. You want light fixtures? Yep, there aren't any when you occupy the house.

  38. Barcode Hacking by stoolpigeon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    O.k. - I never thought I'd find a forum where this story might even have the slightest relevance but here we are.

    For a few years I worked for Safeway Food and Drug as a File Maintenance Clerk. I printed pricing labels and hung them on the shelves. I made price signs, applied the batches to change prices, etc.

    Safeway has a system in place on the registers where certain activities require a manager with an override card. Checks of a certain amount, large voids, all kinds of stuff.

    Since I worked on the computers all the time I was the one who changed the message on the bottom of receipt tapes- with the manager name- when we got a new manager. One day I'm moving around in the file that contained that information and I find all these long numbers in one location. They were all the managers override numbers.

    Here's where the barcode part comes in. I wanted my own over ride card. I went into the software I used to print price labels and took a single record and changed the UPC of a product on the label to an override number. When I printed the label- the barcode in the corner for ordering now read the override number.

    I cut the barcode part out, peeled the back and stuck it to a card I carried in my wallet. Now any time I needed an override I could just scan that card over the register scanner.

    On a side note- I called company security and told them that all the manager codes were in plain text where anyone could see them in the machine. They told me it was o.k. because noone would ever look there. Kind of funny. It is probably still that way.

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  39. OT: "Abbey Road" by MeerCat · · Score: 2, Informative

    It is, of course, Abbey Road not Abby Road and they are alive and well and still playing games with the famous photo (and have a webcam pointed at the zebra crossing so you too can see loads of tourists getting nearly run over while trying to re-create that photo). Plenty of geek technology there too, for anyone who's into serious playing around with analog and digital sound recording and manipulation.

    Disclaimer: I do have links with people there, and yes it is a nice place to hang out (it's still the best place to record the soundtrack for big movies such as Star Wars, LoTR, etc).

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  40. Abbey Road Barcode by nilram · · Score: 1

    Let me guess. When decoded that barcode says "Paul is dead." are something similar. After all He IS barefoot in the picture. :)

  41. Re:RF tags: Not just for tagging consumers' clothe by gurps_npc · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    Do not be silly. The only reason that slavery works in the US is the Slave-Owners preselect non-assertive people. If they take random people, one out of 20 will make a run for it/learn english/tell the cops/ whatever.

    That is what happened eventually with the NYC Deaf-Mute South American Slavers.

    Instead of selecting submissive/non-assertive people, they selected Deaf-Mute people on the belief that they could not communicate.

    Then they sent them out into NYC to sell junk (batteris, candy) at inflated "charity prices". It worked for about 2 years, then one of their "Deaf-Mute" people found someone that could understand the sign language they knew and told the cops.

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  42. bizare != art by SuperBanana · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Andy Deck has reinvented classic literature with Bardcode which will stream the entire works of Shakespeare to you as barcodes.

    You know, I'm completely fed up with shit getting dressed up as art. Paint thrown at a canvas- it's just paint, thrown at a canvas. A bathroom sink, dragged out of a dump, is just a effin' sink, dragged out of a dump. I've seen both gussied up as "art", and it's not- it's a no-good, washed out artist, who couldn't think up something creative, got desperate to put the meal on the table...so they went "random", and dressed it up as creative; someone was stupid enough to fall for it(or they're hero-worshipping), and everyone else outright pretends, or convinces themselves to see something in it, all because they don't want to feel stupid. Random is not creative. Random is not unique, in the sense of unique = valuable; it's just unique.

    Streaming the entire works of Shakespear as barcodes is just streaming the text of a book as a barcode. It has no creativity; it adds nothing to the original work; it serves no purpose; it cannot be appreciated or celebrated, and there would be no difference between using Shakespear or the latest copy of TPenthouse, as far as any observer could tell.

    1. Re:bizare != art by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Got turned down for your grant, eh? I can smell jealousy a mile off.

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    2. Re:bizare != art by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 1

      it's art because it means something to someone.

      Looking good != art. If that were true, then water world woudl be art. Despite the fact that the movie sucked ass.

      --
      Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
    3. Re:bizare != art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You would find yourself informed should you read up on duchamp, dada-ism & the ready-mades, which you appear to be ignorantly badmouthing. I'd love to start the pollock discussion, but we just went through this the other day so i will refrain.
      pthree

    4. Re:bizare != art by Nept · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It has no creativity; it adds nothing to the original work; it serves no purpose; it cannot be appreciated or celebrated

      That's pretty much post-modernism by definition, isn't it?

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    5. Re:bizare != art by metamanda · · Score: 1
      sigh

      I get sort of fed up hearing people say things "XYZ isn't art" when what they really mean is "XYZ is BAD art". Mustard and bananas between two slices of bread is still a sandwich, even if it is a disgustingly bad sandwich. Whether art is good or bad is entirely a matter of taste, though there seems to be quite a bit that a lot of people can agree on. Whether something IS or IS NOT art seems to be a different question altogether. Basically as far as I'm concerned, if you're trying to communicate something to other people, it's probably some form of art. This is a really broad definition, but I do still know the difference between good art (which communicates the artist's ideas successfully) and bad art.

      sorry, this got a bit off topic.

    6. Re:bizare != art by Eric+Savage · · Score: 3, Interesting

      ART lacks a satisfactory definition. It is easier to describe it as the way something is done -- "the use of skill and imagination in the creation of aesthetic objects, environments, or experiences that can be shared with others" (Britannica Online) -- rather than what it is.

      http://www.arthistory.sbc.edu/artartists/artarti st s.html

      By that definition, the barcodes (and the sink) are art. I think you underestimate the amount of art in our world, and simultaneously overvalue your concept of an artist. I personally don't find any reward in looking at a Van Gogh or a Monet, but I can lose myself in an Ansel Adams picture, and all he did was press a button, right?(it took a long time for photography to be considered "art") We each have tastes, and we each value certain things as art or not. And in someone's opinion, we're wrong.

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      This is not the greatest sig in the world, this is just a tribute.
    7. Re:bizare != art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You pretty much don't know what the fuck you're talking about, do you?

    8. Re:bizare != art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahh, you're just mad you didn't think of it first.

    9. Re:bizare != art by chromanid · · Score: 1

      Do yourself a favor and take an Art History course.

      No, Seriously. I'm not slamming you. A lot of people share your view, and it's unfortunate. The course may or may not change your mind, and that's your prerogative. But, at least you'll know where the artists are coming from, and the mindset behind it all.

    10. Re:bizare != art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like you.

      PoMo == garbage.

    11. Re:bizare != art by nEoN+nOoDlE · · Score: 1

      so what is art? There have been different styles of art since the beginning of man and about 200 or so years ago people started questioning what art is. Picasso came out there with cubism and all this other weird shit and people said that wasn't art. Then Duchamp came around and started digging up urinals and calling them art and people didn't consider that art. So it all depends on your definition. I for one go to an art school and I've learned to appreciate even the upside down urinal aspect of art because - although pretty old and mundane now, it did change the art world. Yeah, there are hacks out there who get doped up and pretend to be artists by ripping off 40 year old ideas but hey, there are shitty real artists too.

      I usually get your argument from people who consider the only form of art as 200 year old paintings by great masters that you pay to see at your local museum. Well, art is all around you. Art is the painting in the museum, or the cover of your tv guide, or the design of your cell phone, and even some mural that some high school kid spray painted on the side of his house, and while you hate this "random" crap that is being done today, it will pave the way for tomorrows consumer artwork, just like a guy throwing paint onto a canvas paved the way for a lot of art that you actually pay for in the form of a magazine subscription.

      --
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    12. Re:bizare != art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's not forget, too, that I never claimed to have "reinvented classic literature." I'm more comfortable going head to head with Waterworld. After all, for Bardcode you don't have to endure an hour of commercials or pay $7-$10 at the box office.

      Obviously SuperBanana has never heard me play guitar.

      -- Andy

  43. Applications? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Much creativity has gone into the use of barcodes for many more applications than originally conceived"

    That's all well and good, but these sound more like art than applications...

  44. Hmmm... barcoded Shakespeare... hmmmm... by ProteusQ · · Score: 1
    This proves once again that there are too many people in this world with too much time on their hands.

    (Sorry this post isn't longer, but I have to alphabetize my Harold Lloyd videos, hang a Finnish flag in my living room, and finish those bloody half-angle formulas before tomorrow.)

  45. But I thought by RatBastard · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    the nuber of The Beast was 555-1212!

    --
    Boobies never hurt anyone. - Sherry Glaser.
    1. Re:But I thought by angst_ridden_hipster · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      no, no, no. The number of the Jenny was 867-5309

      --
      Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachtani?
      www.fogbound.net
  46. I'm going to regret this by devphil · · Score: 4, Funny


    but here you go:

    Microsoft's latest wall poster

    No, I don't remember who sent it to me. And I'm turning off the webserver in half an hour so I can go back to getting real work done, so somebody mirror the damn thing and stop hammering my home DSL. :-)

    --
    You cannot apply a technological solution to a sociological problem. (Edwards' Law)
    1. Re:I'm going to regret this by kzinti · · Score: 5, Funny

      That logo means nothing unless the child also has a Certificate of Authenticity. If the child was delivered without a Certificate, it is unlicensed and must be destroyed.

      The Business Software Alliance thanks you for your attention.

  47. The stockcode of the beast by ManoMarks · · Score: 2, Funny

    According to most slashdot posters: MSFT

    --

    That's gotta fit into your schema somewhere

  48. Ridiculous... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

    Does that mean that my car has the sign of the beast, since the mileometer is currently sitting at 160,561.6 miles?

  49. It's clearly a slow news day by Call+Me+Black+Cloud · · Score: 1

    Wow, the subject says it all. The submitter gets off on barcodes a little too much I think...

  50. Gray Code by j0hnfr0g · · Score: 2, Informative

    Now, the encoding scheme is complicated, but it just so happens that "0101" if treated as data on the left hand side would decode to the digit "6".

    It appears that the encoding is Gray Code, where successive numbers only differ by one bit.
    Hence:
    0000 = 0
    0001 = 1
    0011 = 2
    0010 = 3
    0110 = 4
    0111 = 5
    0101 = 6

    1. Re:Gray Code by ScoLgo · · Score: 1, Informative

      Umm... shouldn't that read...

      0000 = 0
      0001 = 1
      0010 = 2
      0011 = 3
      0100 = 4
      0101 = 5
      0110 = 6
      0111 = 7

      Besides which, barcode != binary, (per se). Please see this page for a table that explains the layout of a UPC-A barcode.

      --
      "Michael, I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing - and it was everything that I thought it could be."
    2. Re:Gray Code by 2short · · Score: 1

      No, it should read as he has it. Go read the parent again. You are correct that barcode != binary. That's what the parent is saying. He is further saying barcode == gray code, which he has supplied the correct table for.

    3. Re:Gray Code by ScoLgo · · Score: 1

      My bad - thanks for the clarification! :-)

      --
      "Michael, I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing - and it was everything that I thought it could be."
    4. Re:Gray Code by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
      The idea of Gray code is that only one bit changes at a time. I believe it was originally designed for conductive contact brushes. You didn't want a brief spike when going from 011 to 100 and getting 110 or 101.

      (I know you got it, I'm just just explaining why Gray code exists.)

      --
      One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
    5. Re:Gray Code by -=Izzy=- · · Score: 1

      close .. but no cigar

      0000 = 0
      0001 = 1
      0010 = 2
      0011 = 3
      0100 = 4
      0101 = 5
      0110 = 6
      0111 = 7

      etc ...
      yes .. i need a new hobby

    6. Re:Gray Code by hesiod · · Score: 1

      read it again, this time realizeing that it's not binary. That's why he didn't call it "binary" duh.

    7. Re:Gray Code by SillySlashdotName · · Score: 1

      Again, no.

      See previous comments.

      Gray code only changes one bit at a time.

      Your listing has

      0001 = 1
      0010 = 2

      which changes 2 bits at once, and

      0011 = 3
      0100 = 4

      THREE bits changing. You are using binary, not Gray code. For binary, you are correct, for Gray code, you are not.

      By the way, I always thought it was Grey - with an 'e' instead of an 'a' - but while Google does show a Grey code, it does not seem to be the same as the Gray code.

      --
      Acts of massive stupidity are almost never covered by warranty. --me.
    8. Re:Gray Code by -=Izzy=- · · Score: 1

      I stand corrected.

      That will teach me to post without sufficient caffiene.

    9. Re:Gray Code by Chmarr · · Score: 1

      That's disingenous (okay, okay... I'll just out and say it's stupid :)

      UPC or EAN does NOT encode numbers in greycode. Every digit in UPC/EAN is made up of two white bars and two black bars. The widths of those bars, black and white, determine what digit is being represented.

      In UPC (both 6 and 12 digit) and EAN-8, the pattern is the same for any digit.

      For EAN 13, the first digit is represented by the parity of the encoding of the first four barcoded-digits, and then the rest follows as normal.

      Always... black/white/black/white.

  51. What is this? by CausticWindow · · Score: 0, Offtopic
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    How small a thought it takes to fill a whole life
  52. It's in the bones ... the bones never lie by adzoox · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I wonder if the randomness of nature does have words to speak? Take this pic for example from the article. I wonder if those patterns from the shade of tress on the snow if converted to barcodes would vaguely spell something out?

    My title to the post makes me think of shamen. Shamen throw bones to tell fortunes and future events. In the Bible they cast urem and thumen to determine selection of elders and clerics. I wonder if either of those are TRUELY read like barcodes or whether Shamen and Biblical figures made things up to suit the task at hand or the situation.

    I had turned my name into a barcode a long time ago after watching THX 1138. They all had barcodes on them that told their names. I have my barcode printed onto a laminated card in my wallet. If I can think of it, I scan it in different stores. If read by a Walmart Barcode scanner I am a bouncy ball from the toy department 99cents.

    --
    Yell & scream & rant & rave... it's no use... you need a shaaaave ~ Bugs Bunny
    1. Re:It's in the bones ... the bones never lie by .smoke · · Score: 1

      I think you're missing the point of the site.... The artists are incorporating their own, distinctive bar code logo into artwork. So, yes, the shadows do reveal a real bar code, the same bar code as all the other pictures on that page :) The original poster had it wrong, they're not manipulating pictures to reveal hidden bar codes, they're manipulating the pictures to _put_in_ the bar code.

      B*B,
      -Smoke.

  53. Consumerism according to Scott Blake by PygmyTrojan · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Bill Gates, Ronald Reagan, Oprah, and ..... Marilyn Manson?? That about sums up the people I consume.

    --

    Trying is the first step towards failure.

  54. Nice Try by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This guy seems to disagree with your assertion that 1010 should be interpreted as binary:

    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=62458&cid=5837 758

    Also, the marker lines are "0101", "01010" and "1010". So, going by your theory, it would be 588, not 555. Nice try, though.

  55. Re:RF tags: Not just for tagging consumers' clothe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    So you're saying that it took two years for them to find someone that knew sign language, even though they accost a thousand people a day? They were deaf, mute, and they couldn't write?

    Sounds like a bunch of hooey to me troll.

  56. Oh, Puh-leeze!! by ScoLgo · · Score: 5, Informative
    This is obviously FUD. From the FAQ link above...

    Is there a hidden 666 in bar code?
    NO! I get this question asked at least once a week. What people really mean is "does UPC found on grocery products have a hidden 666 (mentioned in Revelation 13:16 in the New Testament)?" People have thought that the three guard bars used to specify the start, middle and end of a UPC bar code looked like the bar code sequence for a "6" found in the UPC symbol table. You can find a copy of the symbol table on the UPC/EAN page. These guard bars are not "6" and carry no information. Even if you don't believe that guard bars carry no information and insist on applying the code table, you have to determine whether the digit is on the left side or the right side of the symbol. That's because the sequence of bars and spaces are different depending on whether the digit is on the left of the symbol or the right of the symbol. The LEFT guard bar would have to be smallest space, smallest bar, smallest space, WIDEST BAR in order to be a "6". The guard bar on the left is actually space of undetermined wide (left side digit must always start with a space element), smallest bar, smallest space, smallest bar. That sequence of bars and spaces is undefined and is not a "6" even using the table. The middle guard bar is not on the left or the right ('cause it is used to divide the symbol), so it is undefined by the table. UPC is just one bar code symbology out of over 300 others. The bar code on the backs of some driver licenses, for example, is not UPC and has no guard bars at all. Much better "marks of the beast" would be finger prints, DNA typing, or plain automatic face recognition. These are all "source marking" (marks put on during manufacturing) approaches and are far more cost-effective. "No Hidden Sixes in the UPC Barcode" by Robert Harris of Southern California College / Vanguard University is good explanation.


    Please try again Mr. AC troll...
    --
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    1. Re:Oh, Puh-leeze!! by TopShelf · · Score: 1
      Oh, you're no fun at all...

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    2. Re:Oh, Puh-leeze!! by scot4875 · · Score: 1

      This is obviously FUD. From the FAQ link above...

      I think you're confusing 'FUD' with 'urban legend.'

      --Jeremy

      --
      Jesus was a liberal
    3. Re:Oh, Puh-leeze!! by mav[LAG] · · Score: 3, Informative

      Much better "marks of the beast" would be finger prints, DNA typing, or plain automatic face recognition.

      Indeed. The main problem with the Mark of the Beast is that people want to yank it out of context into today's society; seeing 666s behind every bush, worrying about credit cards, tatoos and all kinds of nonsense. But the original recipients of the letter (the Christian Church scattered throughout the known world somewhere around 95 AD) would have known who 666 was. In those days, as in some societies today, it was popular to add the numbers formed from the letters in your name and make a total. So for instance, some Roman graffiti has been found which says "I love her whose name is 545." Hard for us to extrapolate but doubtless the young lady knew :)
      Which brings us to 666. Apart from being a numerical pun (a man's name that represents a being impersonating deity but falling short), John's readers would have known that you get 666 when you add the letters together of "Nero Caesar." In Greek it adds up to 666, in Latin it comes to 616. 616 appears as a variant reading in plenty of the original manuscripts of Revelation which adds quite a lot of weight to this theory. Apocalyptical literature is hard for us to understand today but in those days it was an effective way of painting a picture using symbols and metaphors, all the while making its meaning known to those who were familiar with it. There is nothing in Revelation that would not have been unfamiliar to early Jewish Christians, steeped as they were in the old Testament. And the message they get from that passage is: "you're suffering terrible persecution from a man who thinks he's God. You all know who I mean. He is just a foreshadowing of all corrupt and evil leaders who will persecute the church throughout history. But ultimately you will overcome."

      --
      --- Hot Shot City is particularly good.
    4. Re:Oh, Puh-leeze!! by rifter · · Score: 1

      I have heard this explanation before, and it is interesting, though I ave not deeply researched the Nero connection, it is true he was a major persecutor of Christians (and lots of other people, but he ended up particularly hating Christians). I remmeber Suetonius saying that there were reports of seeing Nero long after his death; it kind of had the ring to me of the sightings of famous dead rock stars in today's society. I have to wonder if Christians in the period heard these stories and what they thought of them.

  57. Re:I==R0X0R! YUO == TEH FAIL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IPMDII!

  58. Nope, its 867-5309 by zipwow · · Score: 1

    aaaaaugh, get it out of my head!

    -Zipwow

    --
    I don't know which is more depressing, that 2/3 didn't care enough to vote, or that 1/2 of those that did are crazy.
    1. Re:Nope, its 867-5309 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      8 6 7 5 3 0 ni-eee-nine

  59. Best "Third Rock" joke ever by jcsehak · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sally: How'd your research go?
    Harry: Great. I was at the grocery store and... watch this: [holds up a can of corn] fat skinny skinny fat fat skinny fat skinny... $2.49. I cracked the bar code!
    Sally: Good work!

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    c-hack.com |
    1. Re:Best "Third Rock" joke ever by easyfrag · · Score: 1

      thats the best Third Rock joke all right

  60. How Barcodes Work by FsG · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This site has an interesting article that fully explains how classic barcodes work, how you can decode the bars, etc. An interesting read.

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  61. Bzzt. WRONG! by H0NGK0NGPH00EY · · Score: 1

    Standard UPC bar codes consist of a set of lines to mark the start of the code, the left hand part of the code itself, another set of marker lines, the right hand part of the code itself, and a third set of marker lines:

    True...

    The marker lines are "0101", "01010" and "1010" respectively, where 0 is white and 1 is black.

    True...

    Now, the encoding scheme is complicated, but it just so happens that "0101" if treated as data on the left hand side would decode to the digit "6". Similarly, "1010" on the right hand side would decode to a "6" if it were data.

    Here's where you diverge from the truth. Numbers are represented by 7 bars, each either black or white. The code for 6 on the left is 1011110, and on the right is 0101000 (where 0 is white and 1 is black). Thus, there is no 666 in bar codes. Not even kinda-sorta.

    See my website for more info. Or, read the Snopes article on the matter. But please, stop spreading this dis-information.

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  62. EAN13 barcode applet by dolmen.fr · · Score: 1

    It seems to be an appropriate story to post the URL of my quite old (7.5 years) EAN13 applet.

  63. don't laugh; it's been done by jtheory · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I actually do have a buddy who had his SSN in barcode format tattooed on the back of his neck (as a comment on privacy erosion, etc.), about 10 years ago... I think we were still in high school.

    I just went to his wedding last year. Forgot to ask the bride what she thought of it, though.

    --
    There are only 10 types of people: those who understand decimal, those who don't, and, uh, 8 other types I forget.
    1. Re:don't laugh; it's been done by darkfrog · · Score: 1

      I did the same thing for the same reason actually, well except instead of my SSN I just got my handle tattooed in barcode on my neck. Slightly safer in my opinion. The Wife didn't mind at all actually. And I did it about 4 months ago and am out of high school.

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      --DarkFrog
      If the dead rise again, we're going to have some serious population control issues.
    2. Re:don't laugh; it's been done by AssFace · · Score: 1

      does he have a mullet now?

      --

      There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.
    3. Re:don't laugh; it's been done by blincoln · · Score: 1

      I got mine on my forearm, Michael Biehn in The Terminator-style.

      Most people seem to think it's cool, except the dental assistant who freaked out because she thought I was in the Special Forces or something.

      It especially went over well at work, since I'm in IT at a major retailer.

      --
      "...always new atoms but always doing the same dance, remembering what the dance was yesterday." -Richard Feynman
    4. Re:don't laugh; it's been done by The_dev0 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I've also got mine tattooed on the inside of my wrist.

      --
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    5. Re:don't laugh; it's been done by sporktoast · · Score: 1


      You aren't alone.
      This one is in CODE 39, inked circa 1991.

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      In a related story, the IRS has recently ruled that the cost of Windows upgrades can NOT be deducted as a gambling loss.
    6. Re:don't laugh; it's been done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What exactly makes this guys post any more offtopic than the rest of these comments in a thread about BARCODES and tattoos? Jackass mods.

  64. 29A by Spoticus · · Score: 1

    Hexadecimal of the Beast!

  65. You'd like my license plate by jtheory · · Score: 1

    My current license plate is CHY 6766.
    Yep, that's "Christ Hates You", and 666 with a broken crucifix in the middle.

    No, there aren't any other possible interpretations!

    --
    There are only 10 types of people: those who understand decimal, those who don't, and, uh, 8 other types I forget.
    1. Re:You'd like my license plate by Gordonjcp · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There are loads of cars in the UK these days with 666 in the registration. I should point out, for non-UKians, that UK car registrations used to run , then switched to . It's changed again though. Incidentally, you will never see the three-letter group "BAS" on a UK number plate - because the "AS" part means "Inverness-shire", where people speak Gaelic. And "bas" in Gaelic (actually should have an accent over the "a") means "die".

    2. Re:You'd like my license plate by bobbozzo · · Score: 1

      In the US, the state DMV's get lots of license plates refused due to this, but it hasn't stopped them from printing them with 666 in them (at least in California).

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    3. Re:You'd like my license plate by jred · · Score: 1

      Last time I went to get tags, the clerk asked the guy in front of me if he wanted the next tag. He asked why & she showed it to him. He laughed & said no, and she said that most people don't.

      I was curious, of course. And being the type who usually likes what others shun, I asked what the tag was... Yep, I drove off with HXU 666 (Hex You :)

      --

      jred
      I'm not a mechanic but I play one in my garage...
    4. Re:You'd like my license plate by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

      My Mum used to have an old van with the number plate "UXB ". People would ask "How's the Unexploded Bomb today?"

  66. All your base... by donutello · · Score: 0, Troll

    Why do I suspect there will be a new version of the AllYourBase song with barcoded "All Your Base..." everywhere?

    --
    Mmmm.. Donuts
  67. ex-scouser by nkg · · Score: 1

    How does one become an ex-scouser?

    to thoose of you whom are wondering what a scouser is; It's someone who hails from Liverpool, Mersyside, England.

    No matter how hard you try, you can not change where you are from

    nor should you want to


    unless you are a manc.
    1. Re:ex-scouser by trash+eighty · · Score: 1

      maybe he did what my dad did and came down from the 'pool to the cultured south. but unfortunately ended up in brum instead heh

    2. Re:ex-scouser by Derwen · · Score: 1
      There's no such thing as an ex scouser. You're branded for life, and should be proud of it ;-)
      - Derwen (a Welsh scouser)

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    3. Re:ex-scouser by bangzilla · · Score: 1
      I actually thought long and hard about the "ex" part when I wrote this article. I was born in Liverpool (Huyton to be exact) and lived in Bowering Park -- moved to South of Manchester when I was 6. So although I have great affinity (lots of relatives there) and affection for Liverpool (I went back to work at Plessey on Edge Lane for a while when I left High School) I feel kinda odd claiming to be a scouser. However, having now thought this through even further, fsck it -- I *am* a scouser! (I now live in Atherton California, go figure....) http://www.boomzilla.com

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      Rich people are eccentric. Poor people are strange. Me, I'd be happy with odd.
  68. Paul Smith by servoled · · Score: 1

    This reminds me of the typewriter art by Paul Smith. He creates pictures using a typewriter (primarily the @#$%^&*()_ symbols). Pretty cool stuff all in all.

    --
    "I have a porkchop, you have a porkchop. I have a veal, you have a veal".
  69. Jennifer Government by msaulters · · Score: 1

    I HIGHLY recommend everyone check out 'Jennifer Government' and the related simulation website 'NationStates'
    An exerpt follows:

    "Welcome to paradise! The world is run by American corporations (except for a few deluded holdouts like the French); taxes are illegal; employees take the last names of the companies they work for; the Police and the NRA are publicly-traded security firms; and the U.S. government only investigates crimes it can bill for.

    Hack Nike is a Merchandising Officer who discovers an all-new way to sell sneakers. Buy Mitsui is a stockbroker with a death-wish. Billy NRA is finding out that life in a private army isn't all snappy uniforms and code names. And Jennifer Government, a legendary agent with a barcode tattoo, is the consumer watchdog from hell."


    Jennifer Government

    --
    These people looked deep into my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined.
  70. Barcode Books by AndroidCat · · Score: 1
    I always thought those PaperByte books with barcode program listings were cute. (I still have my BASEX compiler one.) Of course, nobody had readers back then, and I had to enter 8k in hex, with only 3 keying errors, we had it rough...

    Couldn't find it, I wanted to estimate the size of a Linux distro in Paperbyte form. Ow!

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  71. Cheap ones.. by Ayanami+Rei · · Score: 1

    Do they support most standards, or only a specific one? Also, while its' convienent; i shy away from the ones that are designed to pretend you typed the product code on the keyboard (unless it shows up AS an additional usb-hid keyboard). Links, please!

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    1. Re:Cheap ones.. by 2short · · Score: 1


      It suported the only standard I cared about at the time (S/N barcodes on the laptops i had to keep track of), and I considered the "keyboard-wedge" interface a feature. I was having to type in piles of S/Ns a day into a couple programs, both of which expected keyboard input, and any typos caused major headaches. So keyboard wedge was ideal. YMMV

  72. Homer sez... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mmmmmmm....mustard and banana sandwich.....

  73. Scientists to mark the beasts with barcodes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you thought the Latin names for animals were hard to pronounce, you're gonna hate this:

    "Animal 'bar codes' to take over from Latin names"

    Of course, you should have seen it coming... it was foretold in the Bible!

  74. Here's a practical application from my workplace by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    I work for a major political organization. We use barcodes to identify and check off people who vote in certain primaries. Using barcodes streamlines our processes and increases our accuracy.

    Each registered individual is assigned a barcode. There's a person at every precinct in the state/district checking off names of people who show up and vote. The paper data is subsequently returned, and the bar codes of individuals that voted are scanned in.

  75. Good steganography by Pseudonymus+Bosch · · Score: 1

    The photo (is it a real photo?) "New Windows" by Sergey Pronin could be a very clever example of steganography. Who would read there a barcode.

    But I suspect that after you send the first 2400 pictures of steamy windows to your partner, the authorities will start investigating.

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    Men with no respect for life must never be allowed to control the ultimate instruments of death.
    GW Bu
  76. RE-CODE.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.re-code.com/
    choose your own price.
    print your own upc.
    and it's art.

  77. Who the hell is this Noone guy?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yesterday, Noone was saving our forests, now he's into security systems. I think Noone should be tracked down, sounds dangerous!

  78. 666 by konputer · · Score: 1

    I just got a popup ad for barcodes after i went to "Read More..." link...

    too bad i'm not using Mozilla at home.

  79. fscking with barcodes? go to jail for theft/fraud by robdeadtech · · Score: 1

    check out the http://www.re-code.com

    What was Re-Code.com?
    It was a web site that allowed users to enter information about products they purchased into a database that was then publicly searchable. This inormation included, name, brand, store, UPC ID number, price, and packaging material. It used the UPC number of the product to generate a representative bar code in real time on the user's screen. The web site itself was made to look very similar to Priceline.com. A step through visual guide and a commercial that dramatized the act of switching UPC bar codes were shown on the site. It did not PROMOTE theft anymore than movies, books, art and other forms of media PROMOTE theft. We find it absurd to think that someone would visit our web site and then decide to go steal because of what they "learned" from Re-code.com.

    How did you make money?
    We didn't. We were just a few kids trying to find a voice. One of our major flaws was making our site and video look TOO PROFESSIONAL. We are not a corporation . It was not a scam to make money. We are not a threat to national security. We had absolutely no business model.

    Where can I get your source code?
    You can't right now. Funny thing is, the site wasn't hard to make. Try searching for "barcode generator" on google.com. You will find the same things we found. We expect that other people might create sites similar to ours with a different look and feel since all we had was a simple MySQL database that was searchable and a script to generate barcode images from a string of digits. Technically, it was not a difficult site to build and took only a few nights. Since we are in a very grey area if we distribute code right now, we instead encourage our fans to do a little extra work and, well, do-it-yourself. We were running MySQL and PHP4 with GD Library and TTF X11 support.

    Why is it no longer around?
    After pressure from the corporate thought police including a cease and desist letter and thousands of angry emails threatening such things as exile and eternal damnation, we decided to remove the site from the web. Many large global corporations were TEAMING UP to come after us. We should say we don't think Priceline.com was involved at all so we thank them for being good sports - after all they were one of our original main targets. We feel as though we did our job and we don't want to maintain a database forever anyways. People can be very mean though.

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    Heil Sig! -Rob
  80. The Bar Code! The Ubiquitous Bar Code! by horati0 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    "Do you ever get the feeling that you're being followed?

    Are you not familiar with the book of Revelations of St. John, the final book of the Bible prophesying the Apocalypse? They forced everyone to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead so that no one shall be able to buy or sell unless he has the mark, which is the name of the Beast or the number of his name, and the number of the Beast is 6-6-6.

    What can such a specific prophecy mean? What is the mark?

    Well, the mark is the bar code, the ubiquitous bar code that you'll find on every bog roll and every packet of Johnny's and every poxy pork pie and every bar code is divided into two parts by three markers and those three markers are always represented by the numbers 6... 6-6-6!

    Now what does it say? No one shall be able to buy or sell without that mark. And now what they're planning to do in order to eradicate all credit card fraud and in order to precipitate a totally cashless society - what they're planning to do, what they've already tested on the American troops - they're gonna subcutaneously laser tattoo that mark onto your right hand or onto your forehead. They're gonna replace plastic with flesh!

    FACT!

    In the same book of Revelation when the seven seals are broken open on the Day of Judgement, and the seven angels blow their trumpets - when the third angel blows her bugle, wormwood will fall from the sky, wormwood will poison a third part of all the waters and a third part of all the land, and many many many people will die. Now, do you know what the Russian translation for 'wormwood' is?

    'Chernobyl'!

    FACT!

    On August the 18th, 1999, the planets of our solar system are gonna line up into the shape of a cross. They're gonna line up in the fixed signs of Aquarius, Leo, Taurus and Scorpio, which just happen to correspond to the four beasts of the Apocalypse as mentioned in the book of Daniel!

    Another FACT!

    Do you think that the amoeba ever dreamed that it would evolve into the frog? And when that first frog shimmied out of the water and employed its vocal chords in order to attract a mate or to deter a predator, do you think that that frog ever imagined that that insipient croak would evolve into all the languages of the world, into all the literature of the world? And just as that froggy could never possibly have conceived of Shakespeare so we can never possibly imagine our destiny. Look, if you take the whole of time represented by one year, we're only in the first few moments of the first of January. There's a long way to go. Only now we're not gonna sprout extra limbs and wings and things because evolution itself is evolving. When it comes, the Apocalypse itself will be part of the process of that leap of evolution. By the very definition of Apocalypse mankind will cease to exist, at least in a material form. Well, he'll evolve into something that transcends matter, into a species of pure thought, you with me?"

    --
    The neutrality of this sig is disputed.
  81. Art's stuff .. by hygelic · · Score: 1

    very nice. But damn, move the signature into either corner, not the middle of the picture.

  82. Re:The Bar Code! The Ubiquitous Bar Code! by BrainInAJar · · Score: 1

    what the hell are you going on about? I mean... christ, i thought all the religious nutters were confined to the streets of major cities, but evidently, they've found slashdot.

  83. My own contribution by BorgCopyeditor · · Score: 1
    Bardcode which will stream the entire works of Shakespeare to you as barcodes.

    This is fantastic! I'm glad others are working in this field. I myself have developed a system for turning the classic works of Greek and Roman lyric poetry into dust, digitizing pictures of this dust, and sending them over TCP/IP to your cellphone, which you can then place in your ass.

    <deadpan>It's really innovative<\deadpan>

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    Shop as usual. And avoid panic buying.
  84. Re:fscking with barcodes? go to jail for theft/fra by EddWo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why was the price included as part of the barcode? I thought that the idea of a barcode was to contain a unique identifier that could be matched up with an item in the Stores database to get the price and inventory information. As I understand it the recode issue involved people printing their own fake barcodes with a reduced price and then using them to buy stuff in stores. I don't understand how this could have worked when the item price should not be a part of the barcode itself. Unless they were swapping the code on one item with one from a similar but cheaper product. But you hardly need to use a website to do that!

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    "Taligent is still pure vapor. Maybe they'll be the last who jumps up on Openstep... "
  85. Re:fscking with barcodes? go to jail for theft/fra by miasmic · · Score: 1

    Nice quote, I thought of it too when I saw this story - I heard it sampled on CD1 of Nick Warren's GU024 Reykjavik album, know where the quote is from originally?

  86. Re:The Bar Code! The Ubiquitous Bar Code! by miasmic · · Score: 1

    Nice quote, I thought of it too when I saw this story - I heard it sampled on CD1 of Nick Warrens GU024 Reykjavik album, know where the quote is from originally?

  87. Excuse me? by LinuxTek · · Score: 1
    Boomzilla continues: Barcodes were first developed in the railroad business to keep track of which cars went with which engine.....check out the excellent FAQ created by Russ Adams and an article from the BBC.


    Just one click away from the FAQ is the Bar Code History Page which tells a very different story. Modern bar code began in 1948, from a project to automatically read product information for groceries store. The railroad system was implemented in 1967, but For many reasons, the system simply did not work and was abandoned in the late 1970's.

    Get the facts straight.

    --
    Signatures are supposed to be funny?
  88. A.I. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about Rouge City in the film A.I.? They used circular barcodes to make 3D-space reference points for the CGI designers.

  89. Re:The Bar Code! The Ubiquitous Bar Code! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Aquarius, Leo, Taurus and Scorpio, which just happen to correspond to the four beasts of the Apocalypse as mentioned in the book of Daniel

    Water bearer (human?), lion, bull, scorpion.

    The beasts in Daniel are lion (with wings), bear, leopard (with four heads and four wings), and an dreadful unnatural beast with eleven horns.

    Not much of a match, really.

  90. Need the gospel: (was) Number of Beast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Revelation, like the rest of the bible, is about the gospel of Jesus Christ. If the interpretation has nothing to do with the gospel (like microchips), it isn't going to be right.

    I have tracts on my website that directly relate those passages back to the gospel. They're standard witnessing tracts, except they also link prophecy.

    http://home.fuse.net/gospel

    I haven't put up a history section yet, but its the same interpretation the leaders of the Reformation gave: The pope is the antichrist. You can find that information elsewhere online.

  91. I have a tattoo on the back of my neck by The-Bus · · Score: 1

    When you scan it, it registers as a 6-pack of Milwaukee's Best.

    The mark of Beast, if you will.

    --

    Small potatoes make the steak look bigger.

  92. Re:The Bar Code! The Ubiquitous Bar Code! by horati0 · · Score: 1

    The version I know and love appears on the Orb's criminally underrated Orblivion album, but the quote originally appeared in Mike Leigh's movie Naked.

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    The neutrality of this sig is disputed.
  93. The Mark of the Beast: from Revelation 13 by Berkana · · Score: 1
    Revelation 13:4-18
    Men worshiped the dragon [symbolic of Satan] because he had given authority to the beast [understood to be the Antichrist], and they also worshiped the beast and asked, "Who is like the beast? Who can make war against him?"
    The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise his authority for forty-two months. He opened his mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. He was given power to make war against the saints [those who follow the Christ] and to conquer them. And he was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast--all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb that was slain from the creation of the world. [when conferred with other passages, this Lamb is symbolic of Jesus Christ, who was destined to be slain as a propitiation for the sins of humankind in order to reconcile the repentant to God. See Isaiah 53]

    He who has an ear, let him hear.
    If anyone is to go into captivity,
    into captivity he will go.
    If anyone is to be killed with the sword,
    with the sword he will be killed. This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of the saints.

    Then I saw another beast [the false prophet and sidekick of the Antichrist], coming out of the earth. He had two horns like a lamb, but he spoke like a dragon. He exercised all the authority of the first beast on his behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. And he performed great and miraculous signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to earth in full view of men. Because of the signs he was given power to do on behalf of the first beast, he deceived the inhabitants of the earth. He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.
    This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.

    The Jews had a numeration system that gave each letter of their alphabet a number; 1 for aleph, 2 for beth, etc. until the 10th letter, then the 11th letter was assigned the value 20, the next one 30, etc. until you reach 100. The next letter would be valued at 200, etc.

    Using this system, the values of the Roman alphabet would be:

    A=1; B=2; C=3; D=4; E=5; F=6; G=7; H=8; I=9;
    J=10; K=20; L=30; M=40; N=50; O=60; P=70; Q=80; R=90;
    S=100; T=200; U=300; V=400; W=500; X=600; Y=700; Z=800;

    If this is indeed the way the prophecy intended for one to calculate the name of the Beast (the Antichrist), some of the names that qualify are:
    • Fox
    • Faustin (and all permutations of the letters that form names)
    • Van Friese (and all permutations of the letters that form names)

    A mere bar codes do not qualify as "the number of the beast": the number and the mark of the beast will be imposed on all, as a sign of allegience to the rule of the Antichrist.

    To call any other common device or mark the "Mark of the Beast" is to make light of the Mark of the Beast.
  94. Will Mirror for Karma... by s-orbital · · Score: 1

    Here is a mirror of your image, direct from the very same state as microsoft!
    Microsoft's latest wall poster

    Hold on, someone is knocking at my door...

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    Patent: from Latin patere, to be open
    1. Re:Will Mirror for Karma... by hesiod · · Score: 1

      > "If Bill Gates got a dime every time windoze crashed...oh, wait, he does"

      Oh, please.... He'd be much richer than he is now.

    2. Re:Will Mirror for Karma... by s-orbital · · Score: 1

      Very true, but it still is a nice sig.

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      Patent: from Latin patere, to be open
  95. Artlebedev supports spyware? by lecca · · Score: 1

    According to their "Interfaces" page, these guys designed the 'Re-get' download manager. It looks neat, but it contains the spyware called Cydoor and Timesink. Goes to show you that just coz someone can make pretty pictures about modern life, doesn't mean they understand it, or have a morals.

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    "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" - George Orwell
  96. Don't forget support contracts. by Regul8or · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't forget what'll happen if you try to transfer the support contract to another owner. You'll end up paying for a service that you'll never recieve.

  97. barcodes for textiles/fabrics ? by jaromir_jagr · · Score: 1

    I have a problem. In our store we sell a number of delicate fabrics (for example, silk) which people use to make clothing/curtains etc. We would like to put bar codes on them. However, we dont want to damage the fabric in any way.

    There are also no tags (the kind you see on most clothing items) for us to simply append a barcode/price tag to. We thought about just slapping a barcode sticker directly onto the fabric, however, it is too much of a mess for the customer to remove the sticker after they have purchased the item (in fact, they could potentially damage the fabric itself).

    So, I'm wondering if anyone has a solution to this problem. What other options are there?

  98. Just like premium coffee beans in generic bags? by InsMonkey · · Score: 1

    I always buy my coffee at the grocery stores that have the generic coffee beans right next to the premium stuff. There is usually a $2-3 per pound difference in price, but it all looks the same when it's rung up in the generic-brand bags...

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    I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full frontal lobotomy.
  99. Barcode Music by TwistedGreen · · Score: 1

    Some may be interested to know that barcodes have been applied to music, too.

    German artist Günter Schroth has done work in barcode-controlled music, releasing a full album of his results. It is a rather interesting method, with a modified turntable playing EP-sized "barcode records," with a pen scanner instead of a needle.

    A web site with much more information, as well as downloadable sample music can be seen here:
    http://www.archegon.de/BarcodeMusic/barcodemusic.h tml

  100. Re:fscking with barcodes? go to jail for theft/fra by EddWo · · Score: 1

    wow my first mod point!

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    "Taligent is still pure vapor. Maybe they'll be the last who jumps up on Openstep... "
  101. There is a big 'but' here by master_p · · Score: 1

    Is it only coincidence then that almost every product has some kind of barcode that contains 666 ? and that the most used bar code is the one with 666 on it ? (UPC 13(!!!), isn't it ?)

    It's hard to swallow the coincidence part. And if one combines it with the theory that says "it is the most likely that you have been born near the end times" (due to the fact that population grows with exponential rate, it's more possible to be born when most people are born), then we have a killer event (as we say "killer app"!!!).

    I am not a believer, I don't go to church except on easter (and for 15 minutes only), but seeing this makes me shiver. It's hard to dismiss it. I wish it was only a coincidence.

  102. ex-scouser by basingwerk · · Score: 1

    I never thought you could ever be an ex-scouser. If you are ever a scouser, you are always a scouser. Until death.

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    I stole this .sig
  103. Not to forget my favourite club by Lispy · · Score: 1

    in munich is called barcode.

  104. UPC evolving into EPC by eegad · · Score: 1

    The UPC will be gone eventually, replaced by the EPC.

  105. Re:barcodes for textiles/fabrics ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do what hardware stores do for screws and other loose items. Put a list of bar codes at your register, including the name or description of each item. When someone wants to buy silk, you enter the quantity and scan the bar code for silk from your list.

  106. Blah! by mav[LAG] · · Score: 1

    There is nothing in Revelation that would not have been unfamiliar to early Jewish Christians, steeped as they were in the old Testament.

    Triple negative idiocy. Of course what I mean is that there in nothing in Revelation that *would* have been unfamiliar to early Jewish Christians.

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    --- Hot Shot City is particularly good.
  107. THAT'S NOT FUCKING FUNNY OR COOL! by Thud457 · · Score: 1
    Then you have a lot in common with a bunch of 80-year-old Jewish women! (and men.)

    Sonofabitch, your trying to be edgy and cool belittles those people that were FORCIBLY TATTOOED BY THE NAZIs . (most of who where soon shortly dead.)

    I'm not trying to be flamebait here. Your unthinking behavior really rankles.
    You, and all the other little peewees like you, SUCK!

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    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

    1. Re:THAT'S NOT FUCKING FUNNY OR COOL! by blincoln · · Score: 1

      Sonofabitch, your trying to be edgy and cool belittles those people that were FORCIBLY TATTOOED BY THE NAZIs . (most of who where soon shortly dead.)

      Hah, that's funny, because one of the people that thought it was cool was Jewish, dumbass.

      --
      "...always new atoms but always doing the same dance, remembering what the dance was yesterday." -Richard Feynman
  108. Lol, yet another reason to avoid religion by BoomerSooner · · Score: 1

    Faith is believing in something that no rational/logical person would believe otherwise. You can't make shit this funny up (oh wait, I guess someone already did).

    It's really sad that otherwise intelligent people believe in the tooth fairy (whoops I meant god).

    Flame away, I live in the fucking bible belt, "In God We Trust".