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Late Night Gaming Tweaks The Brain

An anonymous reader writes "Science Blog reports that new research suggests late-night PC gaming tweaks your body's biological clock and melatonin levels, potentially leading to a class of terminally tired techies." According to the survey from the Akita University School Of Medicine in Japan, "performing an exciting video display terminal task fitted with a bright display suppresses the nocturnal changes in melatonin concentration and other elements of our biological clocks. In other words.. [it] might just be the physiological cause of a poor night's sleep."

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  1. Funny... by grammar+nazi · · Score: 1

    ...that's exactly how I spent my last year of college (late night gaming & snoozing during classes).

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    1. Re:Funny... by mog · · Score: 1

      last year? Hell, that's how I spent all five years of college..

    2. Re:Funny... by Schezar · · Score: 1

      Yea, I used to snooze in class. Then I realized I could just skip them.

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  2. That's a big 10-4 by ArmorFiend · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When I was addicted to starcraft, I'd play till 4 in the morning, then toss and turn in bed till dawn. Perhaps screen brightness contributed. The excitement also hurt -- I was thinking about the game even when I was lying down. I think muscle tenseness, especially on my off-mouse shoulder, was the main culprit.

    1. Re:That's a big 10-4 by notque · · Score: 1

      I always felt horrible trying to explain to my girlfriend why I had troubles sleeping.

      Laying in bed trying to figure out if using farms to prevent against zerg rushes was a good use of an initial scv's time, especially on a money map.

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    2. Re:That's a big 10-4 by Cheeko · · Score: 1

      I wonder if they ever considered the addiction effect of late night gaming as well. I know personally that I've lost numerous hours of sleep to EQ, Civ, or even Freecell. Whether this was the affect of the brightness of the screen or adrenaline, or some other chemical I don't know. Howevert it was very easy to go from being groggy to getting very alert and into a game in a short period of time and then play for hours before fatique set in again.

  3. sweet by austad · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So sitting in front of my monitor until 10pm is like going to bed at 2am. Now when my employer makes me work late and I'm more tired than I should be the next day, I can blame it on them. :)

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  4. sleeping on keyboard by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 0, Troll

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  5. ooh, ooh - me too by womprat · · Score: 1

    No arguments here. I play games late at night atleast a couple times a week and definetely have trouble sleeping on normal hours.

    I'm not sure that my sleeping schedule is set by the games I play. It could very well be that I just game late at night because I don't feel like sleeping.

  6. they studied this? by roberto0 · · Score: 1

    I could have told you this for free. It's nice to see they're spending their grant money on this....

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  7. porn. no, seriously. by kilonad · · Score: 3, Funny

    I wonder if looking at porn would have the same effect as playing a computer game. They're both excitatory activities on a bright computer monitor. Mods: don't mod me down, I'm being serious, not funny.

  8. Wow.... by ApharmdB · · Score: 1

    And here I thought it was the staying up until 2 am that made me tired.

    Seriously though, I just finished playing natural selection and I know that it has me all hopped up. I've read that to get better sleep one should do something relaxing before going to sleep. Sort of getting in the mood I guess.

  9. my ass is hot ... by PaganRitual · · Score: 2, Funny

    if i learn nothing else from a report that only had 7 test subjects (and quite frankly you cant, except maybe about their particular cases), i now know that doing 'exciting tasks' on the computer late at night raises my 'rectal temperature' ... now i have a great excuse as to why i dont wear pants when i game late at night

    "this game of ET in the balance and my ass got warm, so i had to take my pants off, mum. no, i dont how that bunch of sticky tissues got on the floor there either"

  10. Solution. by OwnerOfWhinyCat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Someone needs to invent two over the counter drugs to counter these effects.

    1) A morning beverage with a central nervous system stimulant. Preferably served hot for those in cold climates.

    2) A mellow tasty central nervous system depressant that goes well with pizza and will help you get a good nights sleep.

    Wait a minute...

    1. Re:Solution. by suineg · · Score: 1

      It's called: 1.) Cofee 2.) Warm Milk

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    2. Re:Solution. by Methuseus · · Score: 1

      I thought he meant coffee and beer, but I didn't read the post too thoroughly. Never heard of warm milk going with pizza.

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    3. Re:Solution. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the poster you're replying to assumed that the proponent of the solution hadn't thought of these things. Or, um, didn't get the joke.

      Maybe he needs a beer.

    4. Re:Solution. by krilli · · Score: 1

      Someone DOES need to invent these. At least update them.

      Our current version of drink A does not actually wake you up, but rather makes you anxious, often mistaken for being awake in this world of degenerate sleeping habits.

      The version of drink B we have now definitely goes well with pizza and there is no room for improvement there. Only, the delivery system could be more efficient. I am thinking taps in every home. However, it does not actually help you get a good nights sleep. Alcohol *interrupts* your sleep. You may sometimes feel that you are falling asleep more easily, but many times have I laid in bed and waited for it to stop swaying and / or spinning. The depth of one's sleep is affected as well, so beer before bed is a bad idea.

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  11. A good's night sleep? by Tarison · · Score: 3, Funny

    According to the article, the participants had their rectal temperature taken every two minutes between 2300 and 0200. I'd suggest reevaluating the test subjects if they DIDN'T sleep well.

    1. Re:A good's night sleep? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now THAT is funny shit.

  12. Re:porn. no, seriously. by kilonad · · Score: 1

    If I were trolling, I would have posted anonymously. I'm being serious. Would a late night porn session have the same inhibitory effects on your biochemistry as a late night gaming session would?

  13. Jealousy by bruthasj · · Score: 1

    These guys are just jealous because they got wooped at UT2k3 last week and they need to use their unrighteous dominion to put down the gamers that did it to them.

  14. This fits in perfectly with me as well by url404 · · Score: 1

    I have this happen to me a lot. Last night for example, I played a couple of hours of GTA:VC and decided to go the bed at a 11:45 (an early night for me). Well of course, I was restless and couldn't get to sleep till about 2am. The worst part about this is that I start work late the next morning, finish work later, then go to my second (part-time) job later. What happens then? Well, a guys gotta unwind, so I play some GTA for a few hours late at night... etc etc and the cycle continues.

  15. Re:porn. no, seriously. (serious reply) by Recoil_42 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    im thinking no. why? because its totally different, brain wise. games require you to concentrate, be aware of your surroundings, and to track enemy movements... remeber that scientists are usign gaming to help treat ADHD/ADD. Gaming requires a really active brain, whether you notice or not.... ie; in counter-strike, what are you tracking with your brain? -where you are -where the last enemy you saw is -nearby chokehold/stronghold points -nearby allies -the bomb sites (or similar) -number of players left (roughly) on each side. -what weapon you are using, and how much ammo (roughly) you have left. etc... trust me; its almost a buzz when i play CS at 4 in the morning; so tired, but the game forces you to be awake... its strange. porn, on the other hand, requires none of that deep thought... i mean... obviously.... :P

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  16. Good pints made - so I'm off to the pub! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That should get rid of the Gaming hangover, and replace it will a hangover better suited to claiming sick days.

    Cheers.

  17. videos games is why... by pretzel_logic · · Score: 1

    we do not have flying cars!!!



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  18. In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Researchers have determined that everything that goes on inside the brain, including interaction with other things, causes changes which are electrical, chemical, or both.

    Sometimes, these changes can make you feel tired. Sometimes, they can make you feel more awake. Sometimes both, concurrently, along with any of the thousands of other things the mind can experience.

    News at 11. Wake me up when they get to the commercials. Boring recaps of old proofs makes me sleepy.

    *yawn*

  19. Having just done this and finished ET at 2:40am... by malakai · · Score: 1

    i can fully agree with this guys conclusions.

    I've felt like shit since ET was released.

    -malakai

  20. True but I did find a solution... by Stonan · · Score: 1

    Before I left for work I played at least 10 mins of a FPS. The place I worked at had a games room for the staff so during the breaks that's where I was.

    Besides, I've done QA and tech support. Out of the two I prefer tech support. True, you have to deal with the 'most difficult' people but at least you can stay awake. The QA job was for Electronic Arts and even though it sounds good, playing the same game over and over and over and over can put your lights out faster than d/l a big pic on a 300 baud!

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  21. Re:porn. no, seriously. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People frequently find that after having sex they feel sleepy. Looking at porn should work the same way providing you bring yourself to physical release. At least it's been my experience that it works that way.

  22. I suppose I shouldn't be browsing at 12:43AM... by FFFish · · Score: 1

    Sigh. And I started browsing only 'cause I couldn't fall asleep in the first place.

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  23. They wonder why people didn't sleep? by Pete+(big-pete) · · Score: 1

    Salivary melatonin concentration in each subject was measured, as well as rectal temperature...

    Well - wouldn't YOU sleep badly under these conditions?!

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    1. Re:They wonder why people didn't sleep? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since I got my flat panel, my late night restlessness is over. Maybe paying $600 was worth it wo wake up happy and well rested day after day. My flatmates and me playy until 1-2am most every day.

  24. Not me by thejackol · · Score: 1

    Surprisingly I have not had any of these problems. When I was addicted to Cataclysm I used to sit up till 2 to 3AM every night. It didn't cause me loss of any sleep albeit I slept less than normal.

  25. Pah, like I'm really going to give up... by Omicron32 · · Score: 1

    Woah, this has just shattered my whole way of life...

    Normal people get up for a midnight snack, I get up for a midnight dose of Counter-Strike and/or WolfET...

    At least I'm not gonna get any fatter than I already am. :)

  26. Game-induced sleep by erroneous · · Score: 1

    The researchers obviously didn't play MOO3.

    That'll send you to sleep no worriezzzzzzzzzz

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  27. Surprise Surprise by Crazy+Ukrainian · · Score: 1

    Well, this definetly explains why I no longe have sleep cycles. But seriously, I have noticed that it's much easier not to sleep if I'm gaming as opposed to doing work. I'll actually take quick game breaks if I'm pulling an all nighter to stop myself from falling asleep.

  28. Rectal temperature? by Mostly+Monkey · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Rectal temperature was recorded at two-minute intervals during each task. "

    No wonder their bodies didn't produce as much melatonin. They were probably in Fight or Flight mode!

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  29. Re:Having just done this and finished ET at 2:40am by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jeez, man, then pick up the pieces of what is left of your life and try to unplug yourself from videogames.

  30. which is worse? by Paolomania · · Score: 1

    Late night bashing on enemy pixels is great stress relief. I'll take screwed up melatonin levels anyday over tossing and turning all night from pent-up anxiety.

  31. This is a long winded way of saying... by Dolemite_the_Wiz · · Score: 1

    ...playing games at night is the same as drinking a pot of coffee before bedtime.

    Man, I could have produced results like this for a dollar. Five dollars if the Rectal monitoring is needed.

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  32. Find a way to relax... by TalMaximus · · Score: 1

    I have this problem, but not just because of gaming. Doing anything on a computer into late hours can give me sleeping problems. If I'm coding then I'll go to bed thinking about the functions that I wrote that evening and how to tweak them the next day... and so forth.
    I've found that the easiest way for me to relax is to read a book. Even if it's a book on coding, reading puts me to sleep quick. So, I don't know if it'll work for anyone else, but I would encourage that you give reading a try before you go to bed. Trying to get to bed a little earlier than usual wouldn't hurt either. :)

    1. Re:Find a way to relax... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've found the same thing. Whether I game before bed or not, I find I sleep better if, before I drift off the to comforting arms of limbo, I read a book. Sometimes I'll just read comics, like Garfield or something, SOMETHING to put my mind at ease. It helps me refocus a bit, at least.

      Although I'm sure I WOULD sleep better without a computer :D

  33. Was it an LCD or a CRT monitor? by SophtwareSlump · · Score: 1
    I skimmed the article and it only stated that they were playing on a 17" monitor.

    I usually play games with old college friends until about 11pm most nights. I have a 20" CRT. I've heard in several other articles that LCDs are a lot easier on the user since they're not firing the pixel gun constantly at your head :) Anybody with experience on both types of monitors?

  34. It's all hersey by PgDn · · Score: 1

    Ok I bet this little experiment they took was with the average joe. I mean if they took a guy who LANs frequently I bet he would only need like a good 4 hours of sleep for a whole day. You see it's all condtioning, I can last two days on 2 hours of sleep. All you need to do is train yourself to gain the most efficent sleep possible or try what Kramer did on Seinfeld and sleep 20 minutes every hour.