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Gentoo, Fink, and DarwinPorts Join Forces
Mr. Quick writes "From Metapkg, "In order to better provide freely-available software to users of Mac OS X and Darwin, we Fink, Gentoo, and DarwinPorts commit ourselves to work together." A unified front for free software on Mac OS X is something that was needed."
What will this new collaboration be called?
DarFinkGen?
FinkTooWin?
Firebird?
Who really cares what the homo's in the Gentoo camp are really doing.
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oh yeah charlemagne loves to take it up the arse hard and fast ramrod booyah.
So while this is really cool, how is it going to work out?
To wit: thought maybe i'm on crack, it SEEMS like each of the three-- while offering basically the same interface to the same service-- were pegged to different codebases, and taking packages from different sources. Fink to debian, gentoo to gentoo and ports to bsd.
Is this the case? And which source (debian/gentoo/bsd) will the collaboration generally follow?
Perfect, this means we dont have to scrap Fink or Gentoo for a new system, we can use the ones we already have.
...to come together like this. The competing GUI's (KDE vs. GNOME), the competing browswers (Konqueror, Mozilla, Opera, Galeon), the competing distributions (SuSe, RH, Caldera), all drain human and financial resources that, if combined would make Linux into the powerhouse it could be.
Until then, Linux will remain second fiddle to the likes of Windows XP and MacOS X.
That Linux is going to die, oh wait.
Since they ported X11 to Mac OS X on their own it would be kinda useful to have them in the same boat. Dont you think?
Official Gentoo-Linux-Zealot translator-o-matic
.debs can be rebuilt with a handful of commands, my box MUST be faster. It's nothing to do with the fact that I've disabled all startup services and I'm running BlackBox instead of GNOME or KDE."
.rpms together on the command line, and that problems hardly ever occur if one uses proper Red Hat packages instead of mixing SuSE, Mandrake and Joe's Linux packages together (which the system wasn't designed for)."
yes, I stole it. Sue me -ed
Gentoo Linux is an interesting new distribution with some great features. Unfortunately, it has attracted a large number of clueless wannabes who absolutely MUST advocate Gentoo at every opportunity. Let's look at the language of these zealots, and find out what it really means...
"Gentoo makes me so much more productive."
"Although I can't use the box at the moment because it's compiling something, as it will be for the next five days, it gives me more time to check out the latest USE flags and potentially unstable optimisation settings."
"Gentoo is more in the spirit of open source!"
"Apart from Hello World in Pascal at school, I've never written a single program in my life or contributed to an open source project, yet staring at endless streams of GCC output whizzing by somehow helps me contribute to international freedom."
"I use Gentoo because it's more like the BSDs."
"Last month I tried to install FreeBSD on a well-supported machine, but the text-based installer scared me off. I've never used a BSD, but the guys on Slashdot say that it's l33t though, so surely I must be for using Gentoo."
"Heh, my system is soooo much faster after installing Gentoo."
"I've spent hours recompiling Fetchmail, X-Chat, gEdit and thousands of other programs which spend 99% of their time waiting for user input. Even though only the kernel and glibc make a significant difference with optimisations, and RPMs and
"...my Gentoo Linux workstation..."
"...my overclocked AMD eMachines box from PC World, and apart from the third-grade made-to-break components and dodgy fan..."
"You Red Hat guys must get sick of dependency hell..."
"I'm too stupid to understand that circular dependencies can be resolved by specifying BOTH
"All the other distros are soooo out of date."
"Constantly upgrading to the latest bleeding-edge untested software makes me more productive. Never mind the extensive testing and patching that Debian and Red Hat perform on their packages; I've just emerged the latest GNOME beta snapshot and compiled with -09 -fomit-instructions, and it only crashes once every few hours."
"Let's face it, Gentoo is the future."
"OK, so no serious business is going to even consider Gentoo in the near future, and even with proper support and QA in place, it'll still eat up far too much of a company's valuable time. But this guy I met on #animepr0n is now using it, so it must be growing!"
I'm not Seth.
cheers.
I think the default is to read : ... so, I might just point out that the fink link is missing its http:// in front.
"(Use the Preview Button! Check those URLs!)"
I didn't do this, now did I?
The Fink link is missing the http://.
Thankyou.
I'm not Seth.
Is Here
Please fix the front page Michael
I'm not Seth.
I think most people don't understand how unique this initiative is. Most of the times open source projects don't really notice eachother and when they do, they just start a flamewar about who's best and who stole feature from who.
It's good too see there are some developers out there with organizational talents who are willing to communicate with other projects in order to speed up development time and create a better product.
I admit, I'm a little bleary eyed at the moment, but I don't see any broken links here ...
...
Every link in the story seems to have its requisite http:// at the front
Can someone tell me which link isn't working?
Tim
jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
NetBSD's pkgsrc works very well for me on OSX. I haven't tried portage or darwin ports, but fink seemed a little strange....almost but not quite debian goodness.
Still, I think all this work is kind of weird. I can see the porting effort for things like the text-based things (emacs!) and the very large projects (OO.o!)....but running standard unix apps under X on top of OSX doesn't take advantage of OSX's strong points. For all the hype, this could be happening with people on cygwin....
Kudos to the GNUMail.app people, of showing what can be done.
Apple is stealing important resources from OSS community. Instead of having developers working on Linux related products and have them improve current state of pck/updates on Linux we have Apple doing it again. Stealing. They stole PR and based all the FUD on 'Based on Unix', it jsut goes on an on.
That why you just compile your favorite GTK/Gnome app and have a native MacOSX app ?
Fink has always provided a user-friendly approach to installing ports that appeals to even sub power-users. Darwin ports brings to the table the experience behind the BSD ports system as well as the leadership of Apple. Gentoo brings some hardcore technical muscle. They all bring different strengths to the table, so I think they'll find a way to make it great.
For the curious: the link before fink was missing a slash. (http:/ rather than http://)
... (Konqueror? IE? Safari?)
Anyone who was seeing this as broken, I wonder which browser(s) this choked
Mozilla worked fine.
timothy
jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
This is a technique that I perfected about a half hour ago. I was whacking off to porn porn and I was about to ejaculate. I was tired of grabbing dirty underwear to wipe the mess up, so I grabbed a burned cd that was bad. I neatly jizzed into one spot of the cd.
From fooling around with canned air, I learned that if you turn the can upside down and spray, this liquid comes out. It is freezing cold. This is what you use to freeze the jizz.
Something plastic, like a cd or a cd case works well. Blast your load onto the cd case. Grab the little tube that comes with the can of air and put it into the nozzle. Turn the can upside down and gently press the nozzle. You don't want to press too hard or you are going to blow the manbutter all over the place. You want to get droplets of the compressed gas on it. Once it has frozen the top layer of the blob, pull harder on the nozzle and blast it with the stuff. In seconds you are going to have a frozen chunk of semen. It is much easier to dispose of, or you do other things with it.
I seriously have tried this.. Really works.
Take the defactoness of rpm
:wq).
0 0........001%, but we can always dream.
Take the power of apt-get
Mix with the strength of emerge.
And take the ease of use of Mandrake.
To make a
One unified linux, with one libc, one X (X 4.4), one desktop environment (KDE 3.2) and one text editor (nano, because ^X is better than
The true united linux, ready to take on the real enemeys (SCO, Microsoft).
The chances of this happening are 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030319 Debian/1.3-3 here ... I wonder if it's something that's changed between our versions of Mozilla, or (my guess) a Windows vs. Linux thing.
Thanks for the info.
timothy
jrnl: http://tinyurl.com/c2l8yr / foes: http://tinyurl.com/ckjno5
So I welcome this move towards a unified ports system for Darwin, it was definitely needed.
Man watching 6 MSCE's around a sun box, looks alot like the opening scene's of 2001:space odyssey...
Gentoo, Fink, and DarwinPorts alone are not enough to conquer evil. But with their forces combined, they form *dramatic pause* the league of super best friends.
that chick last night looked older.
The tears of pain from not using a rubber, will they ever stop?
Saddness
I am a homosexual. I bought an Apple computer because of its well earned reputation for being "the" gay computer. Since I have become an Apple owner, I have been exposed to a whole new world of gay friends. It is really a pleasure to meet and compute with other homos such as myself. I plan on using my new Apple computer as a way to entice and recruit young schoolboys into the homosexual lifestyle; it would be so helpful if you could produce more software which would appeal to young boys. Thanks in advance.
with much gayness,
Father Randy "Pudge" O'Day, S.J.
Thanks for your letter. Being Catholic myself, I know exactly what you're talking about! It has always been our plan here at Apple Computer Inc to revolutionize personal computing with our high-quality and highly gay products.
I'm happy to answer your letter by letting you know that YES we will be releasing an entire hLife ("homo-life") software line. You'll be able to recognize it in stores by the small stylized logo depicting a large cock entering a tight anus with an Apple logo on it. ("Suddenly it all comes together" indeed!).
Anyway, I hope you and other members of our community will join us on our mission, and purchase the exciting new hLife boxed set. Only the boxed set comes with translucent cock rings!
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Apple Computer, Inc.
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Man watching 6 MSCE's around a sun box, looks alot like the opening scene's of 2001:space odyssey...
CHAPTER ONE
Dudley Demented
The hottest day of the summer so far was drawing to a close and a drowsy silence lay over the large, square houses of Privet Drive. Cars that were usually gleaming stood dusty in their drives and lawns that were once emerald green lay parched and yellowing -for the use of hosepipes had been banned due to drought. Deprived of their usual car-washing and lawn-mowing pursuits, the inhabitants of Privet Drive had retreated into the shade of their cool houses, windows thrown wide in the hope of tempting in a nonexistent breeze. The only person left outdoors was a teenage boy who was lying flat on his back in a flowerbed outside number four.
He was a skinny, black-haired, bespectacled boy who had the pinched, slightly unhealthy look of someone who has grown a lot in a short space of time. His jeans were torn and dirty, his T-shirt baggy and faded, and the soles of his trainers were peeling away from the uppers. Harry Potter's appearance did not endear him to the neighbours, who were the sort of people who thought scruffi-ness ought to be punishable by law, but as he had hidden himself behind a large hydrangea bush this evening he was quite invisible to passers-by. In fact, the only way he would be spotted was if his Uncle Vernon or Aunt Petunia stuck their heads out of the living-room window and looked straight down into the flowerbed below.
On the whole, Harry thought he was to be congratulated on his idea of hiding here. He was not, perhaps, very comfortable lying on the hot, hard earth but, on the other hand, nobody was glaring at him, grinding their teeth so loudly that he could not hear the news, or shooting nasty questions at him, as had happened every time he had tried sitting down in the living room to watch television with his aunt and uncle.
Almost as though this thought had fluttered through the open window, Vernon Dursley, Harry's uncle, suddenly spoke.
'Glad to see the boy's stopped trying to butt in. Where is he, anyway?'
'I don't know,' said Aunt Petunia, unconcerned. 'Not in the house.'
Uncle Vernon grunted.
'Watching the news ' he said scathingly. 'I'd like to know what he's really up to. As if a normal boy cares what's on the news -Dudley hasn't got a clue what's going on; doubt he knows who the Prime Minister is! Anyway, it's not as if there'd be anything about his lot on our news '
'Vernon, shh!' said Aunt Petunia. The window's open!'
'Oh - yes - sorry, dear.'
The Dursleys fell silent. Harry listened to a jingle about Fruit 'n' Bran breakfast cereal while he watched Mrs Figg, a batty cat-loving old lady from nearby Wisteria Walk, amble slowly past. She was frowning and muttering to herself. Harry was very pleased he was concealed behind the bush, as Mrs Figg had recently taken to asking him round for tea whenever she met him in the street. She had rounded the corner and vanished from view before Uncle Vernon's voice floated out of the window again.
'Dudders out for tea?'
'At the Polkisses',' said Aunt Petunia fondly. 'He's got so many little friends, he's so popular
Harry suppressed a snort with difficulty. The Dursleys really were astonishingly stupid about their son, Dudley. They had swallowed all his dim-witted lies about having tea with a different member of his gang every night of the summer holidays. Harry knew perfectly well that Dudley had not been to tea anywhere; he and his gang spent every evening vandalising the play park, smoking on street corners and throwing stones at passing cars and children. Harry had seen them at it during his evening walks around Little Whinging; he had spent most of the holidays wandering the streets, scavenging newspapers from bins along the way.
The opening notes of the music that heralded the seven o'clock news reached Harr
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I wouldn't rate emerge very high because it's just overkill to compile/optimize everything for current machines. It would be more useful on a slow system, but then it'd take ages to install anything.
Escher was the first MC and Giger invented the HR department.
With the exception of Solaris, SCO, and UNIXWare, all other *nix derivatives are illegal copies of System V anyway.
" I think most people don't understand how unique this initiative is. "
Do you think this is uniquer or is it the uniquest?
Linux has things like LSB, the Linux Standard Base.
All these companies contribute towards one Linux and take THEIR pick out of the applications they support.
For security they share their insights into what they find.
You can say a lot about the RedHat GUI but it did stimulate Gnome and KDE to increase their cooperation. My point is, all these companies struggle with the FACT that they have to distinguish themselves while their work IS open source. Everyone can take note (and does) of what they do and can incorporate the innovations.
This is not Unix where all software is proprietaty and where you have to program all features yourself to compete. It is a different ballgame.
With SCO disconitinuing their distribution, Linux as a whole is not worse off. A distribution is valuable for the value that they add. (SCO does not add value they destroy what is good, everybodies time and "their" IP). When someone cares to continue the SCO distribution, everybody can as the code is available. But in the same vain there is less of a lock in, current users of the SCO distro can move relatively easy.
Conclusion, you think in terms of Linux needing only one version one orgnisation to succeed. It is alive and well and doing insanely great without it.
Thanks,
Gerard
Okay, we do... But I never saw Gentoo as a mainstream distro. We're just the guys who make sure everything compiles :)
If it weren't for fog, the world would run at a really crappy framerate.
I sure don't think it's overkill. All of my packages are optimized for my cpu, and thanks to USE flags, I only have the options I want. I want Mozilla, but only the browser, not the mail?
USE="moznomail" nice emerge mozilla
Less bloat makes me happy.
Besides, if you don't like compiling stuff (I typically nice it, my machine is perfectly usable while compiling) there are binary packages for many larger programs such mozilla and openoffice. These take only minutes to emerge.
It wasn't that funny the first time. Why doesn't someone take the time to do one of these for Debian GNU/Linux, Mac OS X, and Microslop Windows.
Why was this needed?
What's the point of porting and packaging all this shit for a proprietary unix clone?
That's like saying that the free software community really must form a unified front to port software to Solaris.
If the OS is proprietary that pretty much negates the touchy-feelies you get from using free software applications.
Apple is NOT OSS or Free Software why do you people sweat it like it is? Are you trying to say Free Software desktops are unusable?
Apple have come up with some innovative products, but their market share remains tiny. Sadly, though, many buyers have been mislead by the marketing and eye-candy, and desperately try to justify their overpriced purchases to themselves on forums around the Net. Let's see what they really mean...
"MacOS X is everything Linux wants to be."
"Despite the fact that Linux is just code and can't WANT to be anything, I truly believe that it'd love to be a single-vendor, single-platform, sluggish half-proprietary OS with dwindling market share. Linux would love to throw away its impressively growing corporate takeup for that."
"Apple hardware is for real computer lovers."
"It's no hassle to use a plethora of keyboard combos to make up for the patronising one-button mouse. Despite the fact that my hands have FIVE fingers, and multiple-buttons make Web browsing so much more pleasant, I prefer my computer to be treat me like a special-needs child."
"Aqua makes me so much more productive!"
"My non-techie friends drool over the transparency and scaling effects, even though UI research has shown that they add practically nothing to getting real work done. It feels like KDE 2 on a Pentium 200, and I can't change to a light and fast WM, but those drop-shadows must make me work so quickly!"
"OSX shows that Apple is committed to open source."
"OpenDarwin.org and its community of about 27 is surely not just a token gesture by Apple. Pretty much nobody uses pure Darwin, and all the crucial components of the system are closed and require me to spend money just to get major OS updates, but they're really helping the community somehow."
"You get what you pay for with Apple hardware."
"My iBook was made by in Taiwan by AlphaTop and has design and build quality flaws (needing foam sheets jammed in to stop the common problem of the keyboard scratching the screen). But it's silvery and cost far more than an x86 laptop of better spec, so it must be much higher quality!"
"...blah blah MHz myth blah..."
"Although there's truth in PPC being more elegant than x86, it's crushing that the top-of-the-range 1.5 GHz chip is slaughtered by the equivalent 3 GHz Pentium 4. However, Steve Jobs showed some vague Photoshop filter benchmarks at the last MacWorld, so being a leprotard, I'm convinced."
There is no need to make a complex metapackage system.
I find Gentoo's python based system way overly complex and buggy. You need to emerge rsync quite a few times during a new install to ensure you are using the latest version of portage.
The FreeBSD ports system on the other hand are just simple tcsh scripts. Under
If any of you reading this use FreeBSD 5.x go to
WHen you do a "make install clean" the port scripts just use standard ftp and http sites in the makefile to download the apps. Nothing complex and its alot easier to use.
I can not speak of fink because I have never used it.
Simple shell scripting can get rid of alot of complexity.
http://saveie6.com/
The thing is I dont reallyknow how good an idea it is to merge the three. What is a good idea is that things be consistent. This is more important in the mac world than others. Its why we like macs. its why for example we put up with having to drag disks to the trash or annoying dialog boxes. by forcing you do to things in consistent ways your productivity and abbility to manage more applications increases in the long run. with applications I want them all in one folder not sprayed allover my disk. I want my prefernces all in one place. etc.. for an example of how not to do things on a mac see GnuDarwin.
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
Or you could have a distribution which has modular packages instead:
apt-get install mozilla-browser
I don't have to recompile PHP every time I want to use a different module; I just install whatever modules I want, whenever I want to use them.
That is the strength of Debian. It's not just apt-get; people who have ported apt to work under Red Hat are moving in the right direction, but that is not the whole problem. With Debian, thousands of packages are "official", and so are quite strictly designed so that all dependencies really, really work. The organization of packages is what really makes apt worthwhile.
WMBC freeform/independent online radio.
... Three packages for the Mac users under the sun ...
And one metapackage to find them, and in the darkness bind them. In the land of shell, where the shadows lie.
Ron L. Hubbard is behind all this.
And Travolta too!
each group simply provides their own set of software for installing and maintaining the ported software on your OS X system. They get to share & distribute the hard work of actually porting the packages. Then everyone benefits, regardless of which package manager you choose.
The much acclaimed Father Randy "Pudge" O'Day finally makes his appearance on Slashdot!!
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Excuse me, what bundled software? This was pre-Safari, so even the web browser sucked. It has to have the least included software ever. Not even a decent text editor, bare bones word processor, or M$ Works clone! By comparison, IBM's OS/2 came fully featured.
Running X applications seemed tedious, alongside a native Linux system, and took no advantage of OSX's distinctive user interface (which, frankly, seems stultifying).
So, without buying hundreds of dollars of "professional" M$ software, or just turning the Mac into an X computer, I find it not very compelling.
Hm. If only Linux groups could unite like this.
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Geez thie ONE OF EVERYTHING crap isn't the holy grail or the road to linux dominance.
I really don't feel like pointing out(for the billionth time) why all the myths I've seen today wrong, but suffice to say get over the fucking idea that "Linux" is ever going to mean ONE THING or that by eliminating all other distros but one is suddenly going to get Joe Consumer interested..
btw get back to me when Adobe, Jasc, Corel,Broderbund, Macromedia, MGI Software, and Ulead FINALLY have One graphics app, one interface, and one file format. Then FINALLY they might get somewhere.
If you wanna get rich, you know that payback is a bitch
Umm... maybe you didn't look or the tech's down at the district ripped out all the good stuff, but OS X (especially with a new computer) comes with a ton of good useful stuff. Just from the GUI side, if you check out TextEdit, you'll notice that no only is it a decent text editor (especially if you use services) but with support for leading, font, spell-check, RTF, tab, and indent support, it's definitely a bare bones word processor enough for me.
There's also GNU chess with a nice gui, iCal, iChat, iMovie, iPhoto, Mail, and iSync.
On top of that, it includes a whole IDE for FREE - Project Builder (along with Interface Builder).
Also, Apple throws in a bunch of programs on the iBooks (Quicken, Deimos Rising, etc.) and the PowerBooks (OmniGraffle, OmniOutliner, Art Directors Toolkit, etc.).
Of course, this doesn't scratch the surface of commandline apps that are in there, but it doesn't sound as if you were looking for those.
The trolls have already won.
Here are some anagrams. or maybe its just poetry
Great Info, Nod Wink
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we Fink, Gentoo, & DarwinPorts
I Fink Gentoo & Darwinports as well
What do you Fink ?
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Our tortured dead scream out in HORROR, asking for vengeance:
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Death to Islam.
I piss on Mecca. I wipe my ass with the Koran. I shit upon Mohammed. I wipe the cum for a freshly fucked pussy with Mohammed's shroud then throw it in the pig sty so it can mire in pig shit as it decomposes.
To defeat the forces of evil, these are the entities that make up the Coalition of the Willing. Oh yeah. No more WMD on an Apple box! Woohoo, we're all saved! Re-elect Apple in 2004! :)
The timing of this announcement is no accident. Think of WWDC starting on Monday. The eyes of the tech press will be firmly fixed on Moscone Center in San Francisco; at least on the first day.
So what better time to put forth the story "we can offer Unix/Linux apps from different sources, and do it in a way where we aren't stepping on each others toes!"
This is a really positive step.
I _would_ use it, but I'm really more of a cat person.
Dogs smell funny.
What does Apple (the company) itself think of all this? I suppose it could see it as an advantage, more apps for it's OS, but they might also see it as more competition. Strange that nobody has said anything about Apple yet, considering that it's http://apple.slashdot.org/!
If they succeed, they will be sued out of existence.
I pretty much agree with your statements, but I will say this much: I don't think the lack of useful changes you're seeing in IE are strictly due to them achieving a "90% marketshare".
Honestly, IE wouldn't have dominated so completely if it wasn't a pretty well "finished product". Compared to any version of Netscape I've used, IE is incredibly more stable and reliable. Netscape tends to blow up after only so much use, and can even destabilize an entire OS it runs on top of.
Many of the "innovative new features" now being added to browsers like Safari and Mozilla are, in my opinion, fluff and "nice idea, but far from a necessity" features.
Take one of the current big ones, tabbed browsing. Sure, it's nifty - but what does it ultimately add to the experience of viewing a given web page? The HTML is still rendered the same way, and that's the core function of any browser.
Maybe I'm giving MS too much credit here, but I suspect they've realized IE is a key piece of the operating system puzzle for them. They know they've achieved a stable, reliable, reasonably fast, and useful browser product for Windows. Why mess around too much with something that works, and risk breaking it further - when it's required for much of corporate America? (Heck, they're serving complete Windows applications through it with Citrix Metaframe.)
Like with fink:
apt-get install mozilla-browser?
Cheetah, Puma, Jaguar, and soon Panther.
I know I'd prefer those to some scared yellow dog!
HAND! :)
That was nothing but a Troll (I thought the inclusion of Caldera amongst the dists would give it away). Y'all swallowed it hook, line and sinker!
:)
Thanks for making my day.....
I use the bookmark keywords feature of Mozilla Firebird more often than I manually type in a URL. I've setup about 7 of these to do lookups in Amazon, Dictionary, FedEx Tracking, Google, Thesaurus and more.
For example, when I type "g linux", I get a Google search result of the word "linux" using my language & results per page preferences.
And when I type "d word", I get a www.dictionary.com definition of "word".
It is an awesome feature that changed the way I used my browser in a fundamental way because it only takes 10 seconds to set one up and it works with most pages that receive parameters. I used single letters like "g" and "d" but it can be whole words like "google" or "dictionary".
As a result of this feature, I think of typing in keywords rather than URLs now. And that is a huge shift in how I use the browser.
Take one of the current big ones, tabbed browsing. Sure, it's nifty - but what does it ultimately add to the experience of viewing a given web page? The HTML is still rendered the same way, and that's the core function of any browser.
Another core function of any browser is the BACK & FORWARD navigation of the web. One thing tabbed browsing gives us is the ability to have multiple BACK & FORWARD histories--something I'd rather not give up after being using it. And having multiple windows open clogs up the task bar and consumes more resources.