Indiana Jones To Arrive Again in 2005

Dolemite_the_Wiz writes "The Raider.net reports that the release date for the next Indiana Jones Movie (tentatively titled 'Indiana Jones 4') is, according to Steven Spielberg, "...going to come out probably for the July 4th weekend of 2005...". The movie looks like it will be set in the 1950s and include just about every main character from the first three films. For more links about this movie, check this search result from Cinescape. Secondly, IndianaJones.com reports that the First three films in the Indiana Jones Trilogy will be released on November 4th. These films have to be one of the most requested DVD releases (probably next to the Original 'Star Wars' trilogy and the first two 'Godfather' movies) ever. " "

This Four DVD set will include:

- Restored Film Footage
- Remastered in THX
- New Dolby 5.1 soundtrack
- A 4th DVD with just about every aspect of how the films were made.

This collection will retail for $49.95 (US)

Here's the official release notice for the DVD.I just hope that the new film and DVD will be able to Satisfy all the Indy fans."

Comments

Woohoo! About time!

[nemui-chan]

I'm really happy they're finally coming out with the fourth movie. The rumors I've heard are that Harrison Ford will be the 'old Indiana' and he will be looking back on the adventures of his youth? Not sure how well thats going to work, but I'm sure that I'll be spending my money at the movies when it comes out.

Re:Woohoo! About time!

[taree]

Hope that Sean Connery will be the 'old old Indiana'.

Tarmo

In this episode . . .

[LazloToth]

Harrison Ford escapes from the old folks' home in his wheelchair and finds the Fountain of Middle Age in a Roman temple, where a 19-year-old nymphomaniac falls hopeless in love with him for 17 minutes and then he flies away in his airplane.

Re:In this episode . . .

[Alan Partridge]

King Solomon's Mines is a fine, fine book by H Rider Haggard that hugely predates Indiana fucking Jones. that there's never been a decent version filmed is merely the fault of the studios involved. I'd recommend the book to anyone.

As far as Indiana's concerned - enough already! Raiders was a really enjoyable film, Temple of Doom was abominable, Last Crusade WORSE etc etc etc

Re:In this episode . . .

[Tenebrious1]

On the subject of Indiana jones, can you explain to me exactly what happens with Indy and the submarine? it's baffled me since I was a boy...

There was a comic book that came out shortly after the movie; IIRC, it showed Indy hanging out on the sail for most of the trip. While it was submerged he tied himself to the periscope.

U-boats and other WW2 subs ran mostly on the surface, even attacked while surfaced. Being designed with surface ship hulls, they could go much faster on the surface than under water running on batteries. They would go to periscope depth if they wanted to attack without being seen, and only go deep if they were being hunted. Since the sub was making a direct line to the island, they ran on the surface, and dropped to periscope depth just to avoid detection and detour around allied ships.

Re:In this episode . . .

[cpt kangarooski]

Indy used his whip to hang on to the periscope, and the U-Boat never went below periscope depth. Since the snorkels weren't added until years later, the U-Boat couldn't go far or fast while submerged, since it was running on crappy batteries instead of the primary diesel engine.

Or, God parted the waves or something for him.

The U-Boat eventually surfaced (which was typical -- they didn't stay under unless they were shooting or hiding), and while Indy would have had to avoid the deck spotters that would stand up there looking for other ships, he'd be somewhat more comfortable.

When they arrive at the base, he'd have to swim ahead of it to beat it there (remember, he's already hiding out there as the sub is arriving) but aside from having to avoid being seen, it wouldn't be amazingly difficult; the sub's entry into the base won't be at top speed or anything.

Anyway, the question of how Indy survived that isn't really the big plot hole. I want to know how they managed to get that giant, heavy crate with the Ark in it into the U-Boat. The hatches are not really all that big -- and Spielberg had actually used that as a joke in "1941" when some Japanese sailors have difficulty fitting a large radio set through the hatch.

Re:In this episode . . .

[mechugena]

He said "19-year old nymphomanic", not "19 pound egomaniac" !

Really?

[Matey-O]

and include just about every main character from the first three films.

Even the melted ones?

Yeah.,..

[Anztac]

"Harrison Ford can still kick the s**t out of most people half his age," Spielberg told us. "I think he's in great condition to put the fedora and the hat and the leather jacket back on and crack that bullwhip a few more times."

Yeah, but if he says "I'm getting to old for this shit" I may have to shoot him...

Re:Yeah.,..

[Jonsey]

...Spielberg told us. "I think he's in great condition to put the fedora and the hat and the leather jacket back on and crack that bullwhip a few more times."

Put on the hat first or second? Because we want to see the Fedora, not some other hat. : )

Re:Yeah.,..

[infinite9]

Yeah, but if he says "I'm getting to old for this shit" I may have to shoot him...


It's ok. One round with Calista Flockhart will cure him faster than that cup he chose wisely.

Not again

[Anonymous Coward]

And then we will have Star Wars 7, Matrix 4, LOTR 4, Harry Potter 5....

I would rather have a single new original movie, instead of tons of the same old stuff.

Re:Not again

[Lord_Slepnir]

I dont know about Star Wars 7, but We won't have LOTR 4 (the books run out), we will have matrix 4 (they planned from the start to have a 5 movie series), and the contract for Harry Potter runs for 7 movies. What's dangerous is when a movie is created that isn't supposted to have a sequel, and one is later tacked on the end: IE, Rocky movies 2-17, CaddyShack II, and 90% of what disney has been creating rescently (Jungle Book 2, Cinderella 2, etc.)

Re:Not again

[Carbonite]

we will have matrix 4 (they planned from the start to have a 5 movie series)

Really? From what I understood, it was part of a pre-planned trilogy. Would you happen to have a sourec for this? I suppose that we could see another two sequels in a few years if Revolutions grosses as much as Reloaded.

Re:Not again

[onthefenceman]

If the current trend of declining plot made up for with increasingly dazzling special effects, by the time these movies come out they'll just take your $8.50, give you a box of sparklers, and chase you around the theater a couple of times.

Re:Not again

[Blondie-Wan]

A couple decades ago Lucas said he wanted to make it nine parts, with the last three films presumably about Luke training a new generation of Jedi, Han and Leia's kids, the rebuilding of the Republic, etc. (all of which has since been related in various novels, incidentally). However, it was also thought there would be a new movie every three years, so that after Episode VI: Return of the Jedi in 1983, we'd have gotten Episode I in 1986, Episode II in 1989, etc., on up to Episode IX in 2001. Somewhere along the way George Lucas realized he didn't want to spend his whole life constantly making Star Wars, and he took a break after Jedi and worked on other projects (while also rearing his kids). He's long since decided he'll just do the first three and then let the films stand at six episodes, apparently; he's said repeatedly in recent years he has no intention to go back and do VII, VIII and IX. He apparently wants to go back and do smaller, more experimental, less commercial sorts of films, and I for one hope he does; I'd be really interested in seeing those.

Re:Not again

[Alan Partridge]

I just can't watch the original.

Re:Not again

[mdielmann]

If the current trend of declining plot made up for with increasingly dazzling special effects, by the time these movies come out they'll just take your $8.50, give you a box of sparklers, and chase you around the theater a couple of times.

And you'll have been better off than if you had watched the last movie in just about any movie 'series'.

Mark Hamil?

[gpinzone]

I remember reading that Mark Hamil was talked about for playing Indiana's long lost evil brother. Any truth to it?

Re:Mark Hamil?

[Anonymous Coward]

No, Mark will be too busy filming the long-awaited sequel "Corvette Summer 2".

Indiana Jones 4: Product Placement Info

[Karl Cocknozzle]

Indiana Jones will be using such popular consumer products as Geritol, Fix-a-Dent, Ben Gay, and Preperation H. The people representing those "Rascal" mobility scooters didn't put up enough cash to get into the movie.... Just as well, as the pace would be pretty slow with Harrison Ford buzzing along at a brisk 2 mph on one of those electric scooters.

Re:Indiana Jones 4: Product Placement Info

[Anonymous Coward]

Indiana Jones will be using such popular consumer products as Geritol, Fix-a-Dent, Ben Gay, and Preperation H. The people representing those "Rascal" mobility scooters didn't put up enough cash to get into the movie.... Just as well, as the pace would be pretty slow with Harrison Ford buzzing along at a brisk 2 mph on one of those electric scooters.

Could be worse... Imagine if Kamen decide to pay to have Indianna Jones ride a Segway?

Luck in three's?

[garcia]

What happened to the trilogies that have become so popular?

Back to the Future, Indiana Jones, Star Wars (I refuse to count the three "newest" ones), etc.

While I am midly excited to see that this film is going to be released I don't see it as being popular. They are going to concentrate on large-scale special effects and less on the content (just like all recent films and sequels/pre).

That's my worthless .02

Re:Luck in three's?

[jellomizer]

Well I wouldn't say the Back to the Future is considered a good trilogy. The First Movie Was Good. The Second One was OK and the third was Dumb.

But if IJ and SW I think their appeal was the fact that they were Action Movies and the characters seemed believable and not over the top like todays movies (The Flying Yoda). Sure Luke had some force powers but it was usually limited to moving some small objects (The Return of the Jedi made Yoda seem to really concentrate to move the X-Wing) and some limited last minute extended super human tequniques that could almost be considered an endrenalon rush. But they were believable it is something you may see someone do in a circus or at a magic show.
in IJ Indiana, didn't have any super powered he was just creative, and resourceful and all the things he did were believable although probably nobody will survive it.
With all the special effects I feel we loose our emotional connection to the character we don't really care if he survives or not because we don't connect to the character they don't feel human they feel like a video game.
So Far the Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter seem like they are good movies. (Although there are a lot of effects in these movies you don't see Grandalf throwing huge fireballs all the time, or Harry Potter racing a pod or constantly doing all the over the edge magic tricks) they try to use special effect a little more responcibibly then some of the other movies (Hulk and Matrix 2 comes to mind) Effects are good and all but using effects for effects sakes doesn't make a good movie. Effects should be used to make the movie more believable and forget that the people in the movie are actors in an fictional environment. I think Forest Gump had the best special effects because most of them were seamless and we didn't even think that they were special effects.

Reworked Scene in RotA

[LordYUK]

**Spoiler from the Downloaded Kazaa Version**

Remember that scene in the bazaar with the sword wielding Arabian dude, you know, the one who wants to slice Indy open like a frozen tauntaun?

Well, in the original Indy just blasts him with his pistol, however, in keeping with the whole "harrison ford shoots second" motiff, Spielburg has decided to let the sword guy swing at him.

This has the undesirerable side effect of Indy losing his left hand, which has been digitially removed and replaced with a walkie talkie. Years later in the fourth movie, Indy is replaced with a slightly (okay, an extremely) sexier version of himself as a woman, and must engage her in fights that involve her wrapping her legs around him that would leave most contortionists in wheelchairs, slightly before judgement day occurs...

oh, wait, wrong overdue sequel with a star way too old for the part...

Re:Bundle ?

[Biogenesis]

Well if you can't you will just have to go above the system and get the divx.

imdb forum

[millette]

The internet movie database already has a few hints in its forum

Re:imdb forum

[TheKey]

The imdb forum, no offense, has got to be the filth of the Internet. It really boggles my brain every time I go there.

Re:imdb forum

[JDevers]

As someone who utterly loves IMDB, I completely agree with your assessment of the forums. Sometimes when checking out the info on a movie or actor/actress I accidently see the titles of the last few postings to that particular discussion and immediately loose a few IQ points. It generally takes a few days to return to normal (in the case of T3, I wandered around aimlessly in the woods for a month...so you might want to be even more careful)

Aw no guys...

[Anonymous Coward]

"The movie looks like it will be set in the 1950s"

So no Nazis then?

Based on the existing trilogy, I just think you gotta have Nazis for it to work well, simply because of their obsession (in real life) with ancient artefacts and folklore... why not a 1940's mid-war Jones?

Re: Aw no guys...

[Black Parrot]

> > "The movie looks like it will be set in the 1950s"

> So no Nazis then? Based on the existing trilogy, I just think you gotta have Nazis for it to work well, simply because of their obsession (in real life) with ancient artefacts and folklore...

Supposedly Ford wants to play a Indy his actual age, so there wasn't much flexibility in the date.

Given the poplarity of I & III vis-à-vis II you can expect the key artifact to be another Judeo-Christian thingy. That means high probability of a setting in the Middle East.

In such a case you may see KGB agents instead of Nazis as the foils, though they could probably pretend there was some kind of ex-Nazi organization in the area for the movie's purposes.

I'd like to see them work in a satirical encounter with James Bond...

slow release

[bongobongo]

the dvd set is way off.... november!! ?!?!? personally, i'm more excited about the version made by 12 year-olds anyway

Preorder for cheap + Useful Link

[calebb]

You can preorder the Indiana Jones Trilogy for $44.95 at Bestbuy.com. I didn't link directly to their product page to avoid looking like I'm trying to make some $$$ on referrals. However, you can click through your favorite 'hot deals' website if you preorder & still get it for $44.95 while earning them a few cents in the process; Or just go to their website and search for "Indiana DVD" and it will be the top two links FYI: The Widescreen edition SKU is 5721463 & the Full Screen SKU is 5721454.

And don't forget to check out Spielberg Films for fairly up-to-date news.

From their Temple of Doom page: It looks like the news previously reported regarding extra features on the fourth disc of the INDY set was on the money as the bonus disc will include documentaries on "The Making of the Trilogy", "The Sound and Music of Indiana Jones", "The Special Effects of Indiana Jones" and "The Stunts of Indiana Jones".
DVDFile says the "Making Of" doc will be a "new full-length documentary", so its safe to assume that the documentary will be a substantial, feature-length look at the making of the trilogy.
No word is made about deleted scenes, but amazon.com's spec list did state they would be present. Judging by the accuracy of the other extras they named, things are pointing to their inclusion, but you never know until the discs is in our grubby hands.

Re:Milking the franchise..

[Bigby]

If you look at Clint Eastwood, he can still play great action characters. Great actors don't need to do difficult physical actions, even in an action movie.

Karen Allen and Kate Capshaw ?

[bigmouth_strikes]

As long as they don't bring back that little annoying kid in the Yankee cap in Temple Of Doom.

Re:Karen Allen and Kate Capshaw ?

[Ozan]

As long as they don't bring back that little annoying kid in the Yankee cap in Temple Of Doom.

I want short-round in the next movie. Played by Yun-Fat Chow. Wouldn't that be something?

Re:Woohoo! About time!

[Ratphace]

Well, actually the plot is a closely guarded secret at this point, and I am glad.

Sean Connery will be in it as Indiana's Father again and the movie is being set in the 1950's to account for Harrison's aged real life look which cannot be entirely hidden on camera.

I believe they are having the women of his life make cameo's and such, though Karen Allen is the only one that I'd personally like to see in it as Spielberg's wife (Kate Capshaw) just annoys the hell out of me! :)

Anyway, my prediction is this: (and this is entirely me guessing, but I am putting it down here now as proof that I said it before the plot was learned)

Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis (yes, like the original PC game that came out years ago)

Why do I predict this? Because Atlantis as a real location still fascinates people around the world today, in fact I was watching Discovery Channel the other night about people that are currently looking for it and clues they have found and such. I mean, let's face it, he's found the most prized Biblical Artifacts already, it's time for him to find something bigger. :)


I guess in the end only time will tell but I thought that I would give you that tidbit at the top about who will be who and why the movie is being set in the 1950's.


P.S.
For all your Indiana Jones Fans out there, in case you missed it (as I am sure most have) in the The Temple of Doom, when Harrison jumps out of the hotel at the beginning with Kate Capshaw and they fall into the car and drive past the entrance to the club that they just ran from, well, the big hidden George Lucas "Easter Egg" is the club is named "Club Obi Wan" (from Star Wars yet had an oriental ring to it) :)
Cheers!

Youth?

[b1t r0t]

Well, if the problem is that Harrison Ford is getting to old, then we need to find someone younger. Who better than a young star of movies with "and the" in the title?

Yes, folks, get ready for Harry Potter and the Temple of Doom!

Re:Youth?

[Surak]

Excerpt from the script: (SPOILERS):

Arabian dude with sword: Twirls sword around, brandishing it menacingly.
Jar Jar: Meesa goin' to da Temple of Doom to find da Lost Ark! Yeah, that's meesa gonna do!
Indiana Jones: Looks at Arabian dude with sword.
Indiana Jones: Looks at Jar Jar.
Indiana Jones: Shoots Jar Jar and takes his chances with Arabian dude.

Re:Youth?

[Ratphace]

Personally, I would rather see the series retired before they bring in someone else.

Indiana Jones is not a "James Bond" type that you just pass the reigns on to. Harrison Ford will always be Indiana Jones, plain and simple.

I mean, they have kept the "timeline" of when the movie takes place moving, so it makes passing the reigns harder, whereas James Bond is a 'contemporary character' that is always just played in 'modern times' (i.e. when the file is shot to be in line with how we live our lives at that time).

But seeing the series retired after Harrison Ford retires from acting would be the right thing to do...

Re:Youth?

[parliboy]

Hey, if this means we're going to sacrifice Hermione by ripping out her heart and showing it to her while it's still beating, I'm up for it!

Re:Youth?

[andyt]

But in the Special Edition version, Jar Jar shoots first!

Re:Youth?

[jgalun]

Indiana Jones is not a "James Bond" type that you just pass the reigns on to. Harrison Ford will always be Indiana Jones, plain and simple.

I hear what you are saying, but I would argue that James Bond is not a type that you can just pass the reigns on to either. None of the successors have come even close to having the charisma that Sean Connery did in the role. And without the incredible charisma (which is the same thing Harrison Ford provides to Indiana Jones), it's just a bunch of bad plots and gadgets...

Just my two cents.

Re:Youth?

[geekoid]

"Harrison Ford will always be Indiana Jones, plain and simple. "

haha, I've heard that about every Bond Actor.

If they placed a different actor, and made a good movie, you may not like it but the next generation wold.

Re:Youth?

[Alan Partridge]

...except for "On Her Majesty's Secret Service", which is actually rather good. Sure, Connery LOOKS good, but the Bond films he stars in are absolute DRIVEL.

Lazenby may be slightly cheesy, but at least the man can FIGHT!

Re:Youth?

[multimed]

As a huge fan of the franchise I'll respectfully disagree. Though I hated Roger Moore for playing it too cartoonish, I did like Daulton--though certainly lacking the charisma of Connery I found his playing the role as much more serious, darker and ruthless to be interesting as well and more like the 007 from Fleming's books. Of course the box office numbers show that just about everyone else disagrees with me. I do find Brosnan to be nearly up to par with Connery in terms of charisma (especially considering many of Connery's best lines would never fly today because they'd be too offensive). All he really is lacking is the physical presence that Connery had.

While the same could be said for the Indy series, the reason that the Bond series has been able to continue as long as it has is in large part due to the consistency of the behind the scenes producers. Cubby Broccoli produced everything through License to Kill with his daughter Barabara and step-son Michael Wilson taking over for the rest after years of on-the-job training from their father.

Re:Milking the franchise..

[grub]

In a Eastwood flick (Bloodwork) he played an aging cop that had to go through a heart transplant. A bit more realistic than Harrison Ford one-handed swinging on vines in the jungle as he shoots the natives with his other hand.

Re:Milking the franchise..

[mpk]

Hey, be fair - Ford's 60, not 90, and in physical good nick. There's plenty of life in the old dog yet, although it does seem slightly bizarre to be doing film 4 now rather than several years ago. Perhaps it would be wise to cut back a bit on the acrobatics and write a plot that's suited to an older, wiser Indy (and if it's set in the 1950s, Indy will have aged about as much as Ford has since the Last Crusade), but writing people off just because they're nearly old enough to collect their pension's a bit unfair.

And hey, Ford now is about two years older than Roger Moore was when he last played James Bond in 1987.

Nope, the melted one just died...

[calebb]

Well, at least one of them did:

Phillip Stone (I)
14 April, 1924 - 15 June, 2003
Captain Blumburtt, Temple of Doom
Source

...At least I think he ended up in the pit - I haven't watched Temple of Doom in a long time.

In the words of Short Round

[Zabu]

Uh Oh -- Big Mistake!


cited

New Title Suggestions

[bc8o8]

How about
"Indiana Jones: Raiders of the Retirement Home"
or
"Indiana Jones: The Temple of Viagra"
or
"Indiana Jones: The Last Erection"

Re:New Title Suggestions

[digtl88]

you should submit them to Saturday Night Live...they could make some funny skits off those titles.

The Inside Scoop

[wynterwynd]

The villan from this one will be Interpol, tracking Indiana down for 20 years worth of smuggling national treasures to sell to museums. High adventure ensues in U.S. Extradition Court, as Indy faces his greatest nemesis, Warren "Eyepatch" Fineburg, a ruthless UN junior legal secretary with a jaunty BLACK fedora and a bullwhip-like fountain pen. Indy's only hopes for exoneration lies in a ragtag legal team consisting of a whiny showgirl, an ex-Russian general turned Hindu monk, and a sassy orangutan lawyer. Indy will need all his skill and luck to survive the climactic out-of-court settlement on the ledge of the courthouse clock tower!


I trusted my heart to you once Lucas, and you let me down. I'll approach this with appropriate levels of guarded enthusiasm.

Wynter

Terminology Catastrophe Warning

[aziraphale]

"the First three films in the Indiana Jones Trilogy will be released"

Since, in any rational universe, a trilogy doesn't have a 'first three films', shouldn't that be the 'increasingly inaccurately named Indiana Jones Trilogy'?

Re:The sad thing..

[Anonymous Coward]

No, Sean Patrick Flanery played Indy in the tv series. River Phoenix played Young Indy in The Last Crusade (the part showing the origin of the scar on his chin).

Re:Don't you mean...

[birder]

The 8th will be Harry looking back on the adventures of his youth....

What about the cup of life and being immortal?

[CaptRespect]

Since Indy drank from the Cup of Life in the last movie, isn't he immortal now? What kind of plot is that going to make? Is he going to meet up with the Highlander or something?

Seriously, if he can't be killed and is he just going to walk up to the main Nazi bad guy and shoot him?

Or maybe I got the last movie all wrong.

Re:What about the cup of life and being immortal?

[darrad]

You have to remember the plot of the last movie. The price for being immortal was you had to stay inside the seals at the door of the chamber. Since he left the Chamber of the Grail, the immortality is no longer in effect.

Re:What about the cup of life and being immortal?

[3h]

Drinking from the Grail did not make you immortal (it had only healing power), you had to drink from it constantly to live forever. And because Grail had to stay inside, you only could live forever in that cave.

Re:What about the cup of life and being immortal?

[Richard_at_work]

Rather the cup had to remain within the chamber, and you had to keep drinking from the cup to be immortal. No cup no immortality.

Incomplete DVD Set

[HisMother]

This seems to be a trend, as I'm sure y'all have noticed already: announce the latest in a series of movies, and simultaneously release a boxed set of DVDs of all the previous movies. The buzz about the upcoming movie sells the boxed set. After the next movie arrives, the boxed set is now incomplete, and you get a chance to sell a brand new boxed set to the believers. Pretty crappy if you ask me, but people apparently fall for it.

Re:Incomplete DVD Set

[perrinkog]

That may be the case with a lot of recent movies (LoTR in particular). BUT I have two points of dissention: 1. DVDs are being released in nov of 2003 and the movie is due July 2005. Thats a bit long for the "buzz" to last. 2. It is Indiana Jones. No hype needed.

Re:Incomplete DVD Set

[indead]

Or... You could just buy the forth one seperately later.

Not everything is a conspiracy.

Re:Incomplete DVD Set

[pclminion]

This seems to be a trend, as I'm sure y'all have noticed already: announce the latest in a series of movies, and simultaneously release a boxed set of DVDs of all the previous movies.

Adam Osborne's classic blunder

"The final blow occurred in 1983, when Adam Osborne boasted about an upcoming product months before it could be released, killing demand for the company's existing products ... Unsold inventory piled up and OCC declared bankrupcy on September 13 1983. This marketing blunder came to be known as "Osborneing" and the phrase circulated in Silicon Valley for the next decade."

If I knew my gold plated box set was going to be an incomplete box set in two years, I would not buy it.

Re:Incomplete DVD Set

[JahToasted]

Quit whinning dude. Here's what I plan to do: let all my family members know that the trilogy will be released in november. Christmas day it will somehow appear under the tree. When the fourth one comes out I will go see it in the theatre. If its good I will buy it on DVD later. If not I won't.

I will then have the original trilogy and possibly the fourth one separately. I won't lose sleep over it because I'm not an anal-retentive idiot that has to have everything fit in one box.

So you, yes YOU have the choice: Buy the 4th movie separately, or be an idiot and pay for the original 3 movies twice so you can own a fucking box.

But please stop complaining. Also I am premptively demanding that you not complain about Star Wars boxed sets, LOTR boxed sets, or any other items that are sold in boxes. Thank you.

Re:Think about it....

[EllF]

Indiana was only immortal in the actual hall of the grail. That is why the knight who guarded the grail was able to stay alive for so long, but never leave the hall -- the grail's gift of immortality did not extend past the seal on the floor.

Short Round == Jar-Jar

[sczimme]

Short Round is the Jar-Jar Binks of the Indiana Jones movies:

broken English coupled with nails-on-a-chalkboard voice

cloying attempts to appear cute

useless in most life-threatening or otherwise important situations

The major difference is that it is difficult to wish harm on Short Round because he is a little kid - not so with Jar-Jar. I had no trouble wishing Han Solo would show up and shoot first.

Not all of them...

[squarooticus]

One of my favorite characters, Marcus Brody, was played by Denholm Elliott, who died in 1992. He was one of the reasons why Last Crusade was such a good movie:

Elsa: It's perfectly obvious where the pages are. He's given them to Marcus Brody.

Professor Henry Jones: Marcus? You didn't drag poor Marcus along did you? He's not up to the challenge.

Walter Donovan: He sticks out like a sore thumb. We'll find him.

Indiana Jones: The hell you will. He's got a two day head start on you, which is more than he needs. Brody's got friends in every town and village from here to the Sudan, he speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom, he'll blend in, disappear, you'll never see him again. With any luck, he's got the grail already.

[Cut to middle of fair in the Middle East, Marcus Brody wearing bright suit and white hat, sticking out like sore thumb]

Marcus Brody: Uhhh, does anyone here speak English?!

Re:Not all of them...

[Scryber]

Denholm Elliott was a fine actor, but I felt the character he played in the third movie was nothing like the one from the first.

In Raiders, he was cautiously uncertain about Indy's pursuit of the Ark. The scene where Jones is packing his suitcase and Brody reveals his misgivings was really well done, conveying a sense that they were messing this things that should be better left alone.

In the third film, he was, simply, a boob. A comic relief. Dundering and flailing about, he was C-3P0 as a human. Of course that film was lighter in tone all around and IMO none of the movies of the trilogy approach the greatness of the first one, but still I thought that character's transformation from serious to comic was a shame.

Re:Not all of them...

[squarooticus]

From the little you saw of him in the first film, he was a different character for sure. But considering just how little time he was in the first film, it's hard to assert that they completely rewrote him to satisfy some kind of primal comic urge.

And, even if they did, I found Brody's bumbling to be very well done: like C-3P0 and UNLIKE Jar-Jar Binks, he didn't dominate the film, but rather just provided a few moments of comic relief here and there.

Furthermore, I'd say his contribution of non-comic lines in the third movie, while lower as a percentage of the whole of his lines in that film, was still greater than the sum total of his lines from the first film. So, what are you complaining about? :)

No! NO!

[MonkeyDluffy]

When was the last time Harrison Ford made a decent movie? I'm sorry, but the last few films he seemed to be just .... ordinary. While I love the Indiana Jones movies, I don't really want a new one that isn't in the same league as the first three.

-MDL

Time to eat monkey brains again

[abhikhurana]

I am an Indian..guess I will get back into the habbit of eating monkey brains.

Re:Time to eat monkey brains again

[The Cydonian]

Not to mention, pluck out our side-kick's heart from his body while shouting Om Namah Sivay ;-).

Seriously folks, but the Temple of Doom has one of the worst portrayals of Indians ever on celluloid (which, if I'm not wrong, led to the movie being banned in India). I know it's all fiction, and certainly, I don't know if it's a cross-cultural over-reaction, but I think ToD was a simplistic, and a grossly overstated description of a complex set of cultural traditions and values. You know, the old Oh-The-Americans-Know-Nothing-But-Are-Loud-Mouthed routine... it comes from cultural objects like this.

The parent's point seems to be that most Indians can't stand the IJ universe, so to speak, because of this grotesque sequel.

Maybe you forgot... HHGH !!!

[da5idnetlimit.com]

The hitch hicker guide to the galaxy /// A TRILOGY IN 5 PARTS ///

I hate those young techno punk that think they invented a new, but interesting problem...

Re:Maybe you forgot... HHGH !!!

[Anonymous Coward]

He didn't forget it! In fact, the quote "the increasingly inaccuratley named [x] trilogy" comes from the cover of the fifth book in Hitchhiker! Maybe you should read them one day?

Idea! lets have Indiana JUMP over a SHARK...

[dpbsmith]

The first three Star Wars movies were good, the first three James Bond movies were good, even the first three Rocky pictures were good...

To a true fan, nothing is sadder than the beloved series that goes on and on, becoming less good, then mediocre, then embarrasingly bad self-parody.

Because the true fan just has to keep watching them all, out of appreciation for what was and hoping against hope for what might be but almost never is.

Three cheers for the entertainers who remember the old show business maxim, "Always leave 'em wanting more."

Short Round != Jar-Jar

[HarveyBirdman]

Are you crazy? Short Round kicked ass! He was a competent getaway driver, a sneaky card cheat, was not intimidated by a beautiful grown woman, knew martial arts, had the guts to apply FIRE to someone else's gut when the situation called for it, knew when to use his tongue and when to hold it, and he saved Indiana by beating the tar out of the little royal kid messing with the bad juju voodoo.

On the rope bridge, Jar-Jar would have screamed and blubbered. Short Round quietly turned to Willie and said, "Hang on. We going for a ride." The kid had a set of balls on him, man.

If they had both been there, Short Round would kicked Jar-Jar off the bridge himself in the name of the mission.

Re:Short Round != Jar-Jar

[Ineffable 27]

Excellent points. Plus, there's the fact that Indy just trusted him totally, and you as the viewer accepted that.

Unlike the case of Jar Jar -- when Liam Neeson expresses confidence in Jar Jar, you're left scratching your head.

Politically correct change in DVD Special Edition

[operagost]

Instead of shooting the crazed Arab, he points a walkie-talkie at him and says, "BANG!"

Re:japanese ring because it is...

[Chundra]

"wan" is Japanese for "woof".

1950's

[TheDredd]

To bad it's in the 50's, wat made the 1st and 3rd film good, was Indy battleing those evil Nazis.
That's why part 2 was never that good.

Who is he going to battle now??
Perhaps they should make it in the 03's instead and call it: Indiana Jones and the Defeat of Microsoft

10 years to the day, almost

[Markvs]

When I was in Vienna, Austria back in July of 1994, the big news on MTV Text was the new Indiana Jones movie, supposedly to focus around the "Spear of Destiny", the spear which stabbed Christ during the Crucifixion was in the works. Hmm.

BTW, MTV Text was a second MTV channel (this is back when Euro MTV was in English 24-7) which was text only news.

Artefacts

[The Famous Brett Wat]

You say:

...he's found the most prized Biblical Artifacts already...

He's found the most famous Biblical Artefacts already (plus a Hindu artefact, for that matter), but not the most prized. The most prized must surely include the cross of the crucifixion itself, which, legend has it (if one wishes to give a Hollywood angle to it), heals all who touch it.

Note that I agree with you: the Christian Artefact angle has pretty much been done enough, and they'll probably try for something else like Atlantis, or something Egyptian, or maybe Incan? Round off the series (I presume this will be the last) with a throw-back to the opening scene of Raiders -- that would be cool. Even so, the Christian Artefact scene is hardly mined out if they think it will please the crowds.

Re:Bundle ?

[mirko]

Ok, I bite.
you don't need good teeth for that was not intended to be a troll.

If you have a 42" plasma display... why care about a few extra dollars for a DVD?
Because it is by sparing a few dollars here and there that I could spare enough to buy one.

No script yet!

[hdc]

Harrison Ford was on Conan last week and said he hasn't even seen a script yet for #4. The release time frame is definitely tentative.

Lil Hobbit?

[Lispy]

They could make the Star Wars plot twist and make a movie about Bilbos earlier adventures. After killing Smaug we could go back even further and make a trilogy out of the Silmarillion scaring away both, the diehard fans (for replacing the young Arwen with Natalie Imbruglia) and the rest of the crowd for confusing them with a new main character every 15 minutes.

cu,
Lispy

Re:Godfather Set

[Anonymous Coward]

Just as there is no movie "Highlander II", there is no Godfather 3. We've all agreed it's best that way.

Lucas has tweaked the original trilogy

[artemis67]

In the "new and improved" version, the spinning sword dude shoots first.

And misses.

Re:Woohoo! About time!

[andy1307]

mean, let's face it, he's found the most prized Biblical Artifacts already, it's time for him to find something bigger. :)

something bigger..like SCO's code in linux?

Re:japanese ring because it is...

[cpt kangarooski]

However, I'm curious as to why a Chinese gangster in Shanghai would want a name that sounded even vaguely Japanese. Virtually everyone in China in the 1930's hated the Japanese, due to, you know, their ruthless and brutal invasion of China.

Modern Day Indy?

[Lord_Dweomer]

How about:

Indiana Jones and the Search for the WMD

It could be set in the desert, and could have the opening scene in the Oval Office with G.W. telling Harrison Ford that there is a POWERFUL MYSTERIOUS ARTIFACT that evil terrorists are hiding that he needs to find. He's not really sure what it looks like...just that it has the potential to bring lots of DOOM! And if he comes across any oil to make sure to relay the coordinates to his personal line.

Re:Think about it....

[EllF]

Hmm. The knight inside the hall said, ""The Grail cannot pass beyond the Great Seal. That is the boundry, and the price of immortality." I've always taken that to mean that the grail cannot leave, and that anyone who drinks from it even once is immortal *within* the boundaries of the hall -- that is, they do not age while within it. I suppose either of our interpretations works.

home video and movie theaters

[GunFodder]

If I want to see a movie with thought provoking themes, interesting dialog, and fully realized characters then I will go rent it and enjoy it from the comfort of my couch.

If I am going to drive to a theater, shell out $9, watch stupid commercials and listen to bland pop for half an hour waiting for the movie to start then I want to watch a movie that knocks my socks off. I want assloads of special effects and bass that goes down to the brown note. Otherwise I can get a better movie watching experience in my own home.

Something bigger

[roesti]

I mean, let's face it, he's found the most prized Biblical Artifacts already, it's time for him to find something bigger. :)

How much bigger a find do you want? Realistic software patents? A boxed copy of Duke Nukem Forever? What?

Personally, I can't wait for "Indiana Jones and the Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction". If anyone can solve the mystery and find these weapons, Indy can.