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Female Gamer Talks Girl Gaming
Snowcone writes "As gaming becomes more mainstream, it's inevitable that many girls will join the ranks of the die-hard gamer. Gaming is typically reserved for those with that extra chromosome, which poses the question; in a world dominated by the male sex, why do women choose to put themselves in the position of the minority? As a female gamer, Dots @ Snackbar Games discusses reasons why it's ok for girls to enjoy gaming just as much as the guys do." This is another perspective on a much-discussed subject.
...for those with that extra chromosome.
Anyone up for a game of Super Downs Syndrome Racer?
I dont think its a case of female gamers choosing to be in a minority. they choose to enjoy gaming, and hence that automatically puts thbem in the minority. I wonder how many female gamers take on a male moniker when playing online to avoid all the "A/S/L"-ing that always going on when someone called "Susie" joins a server.
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Of course girls play games. I always see female toons on EQ!
No, seriously... my girlfriend was addicted to Civ 3, now its NWN... we just got Mario Golf yesterday (god that game is FUN, and I HATE golf!!) and she was really into the N64 version so I expect lots of courses to be unlocked when I get home...
I tell you what, I've gotten 3 computers in 3 years, along with near constant upgrades on the basis of "but you'll get a better video card/more memory/whatever if I do" =)
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Ladies play games differently to men, so maybe there are not enough games that cater to this difference.
I remember watching a program years ago which studied the sytes of gamplay of men and women. It wasn't exactly an extensive test but there was a difference.
For example, one of the games they used was one of the Super Mario games (can't remember which...) The men would run through the level making sure they killed all the enemies on route while women would run through the level avoiding any enemies they could if it meant an easier route through.
I know thats pretty basic but my misses certainly doesnt enjoy the mindless shoot-em up games.
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Well, the author does make some good points about why girls should get more into gaming, such as it's another topic of conversation to use on dates, but she makes a lot of assumptions that I don't think she has ever experienced, namely marriage and working in an office.
She thinks married guys stay out all Friday night to play Halo with the guys? He's more likely getting plastered at a bar, and I doubt her liking video games would prevent this in anyway. Plus, nothing pisses guys off more than when a girlfriend/wife tags along for guys' night out.
And as for video games in the office...I have no clue how that ties into the gender issue at all. Most companies don't allow employees to even play web-based games, let alone console games. People would end up taking much longer lunchbreaks, and would be constantly sneaking off to play. Not a good idea at all.
It's kind of funny how the author questions why video games are only for men, but her reasons as to why women should play are just to please their men. She should have come up with some better reasons, like, oh I don't know, video games are fun.
i remember when all the 'lifestyle programs'/girly magazines were talking about how IT professionals were the perfect 'catch' and that computing was the new way to meet men.
this is exactly the same, but for teenagers.
what does that have to do with anything? They just want to play too, because guess whay, games are fun. Thats like saying, 'why do black CEOs choose to put themselves in the position of the minority?' They dont choose that. Its not like they turned down the opportunity to be the majority, there was no choice made.
i think a better question might have been 'Why are women interested in games when they comprise a minority share of the gaming demographic?'
I want 2D games back.
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I've been gaming for about 4 years now. I didn't get into gaming until I was in college. Honestly, my parents didn't encourage gaming that much. I don't think they discussed the possiblity of buying me a game console when I was a kid.
Am I into different games than male gamers? Maybe, maybe not. I'd like to think my gender has very little to do with the type of games I prefer.
I have to admit that I do use male sounding names on gaming servers. I really hate joining a game and being distracted by some 13 year old's sexist comments. But on the same token if I'm kicking some 13 year old's ass and he's making stupid comments, I will inform him that a woman is kicking his sorry ass.
I am a little disappointed that one of the articles talked about gaming as a way to help women date. I also happen to be an IT professional, and the thought of dating or marrying an IT professional did not factor into my decision to pursue a career in computing. I'd like to think that the fact I love math, puzzles and logic had some influence in my decision. So I'd like to think I game because gaming is a great form of entertainment.
I can say that I would like to see many more girl gamers. Girl gamers are the kinds of girls I would like to go out with, but they are few. I think girls don't game for two reasons. 1) They generally don't like it. 2) there aren't many girl games. It's like football. There are girls who like football, but for whatever reason it's a thing guys like more. It's just the way things are. But as evidenced by things like the sims, there are games that girls will play. Make more of those games.
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Extra chromosome != male. Extra chromosome = wuh-oh.
Perhaps she meant to say "different chromosome?"
Anyway, I just think a lot of girls out there who won't touch a lot of games because of external appearances and how they perceive the game to be are really missing out on games that have great gameplay, which is really what it's all about.
"I'm a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar."
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After reading that article, I have to conclude they have entirely different reasons for playing as well. Every example she made had something to do with a woman improving some kind of relationship, whether it be with friends, coworkers, boyfriends or the friends of boyfriends. That is not why you play video games. You play video games for fun, not so a guy will go out with you or you can get more responsibility at work.
But I think real "gamer chicks" know that. If I meet a girl who plays video games, it had better be because she likes it, not just so she can get in my pants. Girls are sneaky like that.
Maybe they are good reasons to get started, but if you never have fun doing it, you will not stay a gamer.
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Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill... either you don't read much online, or you felt extraordinarily picky over this article. With all due respect, most articles online aren't Grade-A English essays. Most articles may not even pass the Word 97 grammar checker. There's no need to complain for such a long time.
So cognitive recognition and memory aren't part of being smarter? She's confusing me by making assumptions about the correct theory of intelligence. She doesn't even bother to state them explicitly.She said "I am in no way saying that by playing video games will make you smarter". She's trying to avoid people going up to her and saying "You said playing Halo would raise my IQ" or "I played Counterstrike all night and didn't pass my exam, you said-" etc. Rather she clarifies her position and says the studies would help people remember certain things (whether they are remembering gaming tips or integration techniques).
With all due respect, I think video games have rotted her brain a little. Why not "Working in an office may still be difficult for women."?Forgive my poor html, it is the best I can do. Anyhow... I don't even see why you had to pull this sentence out of the article to complain about. Many sentences can be reworded different to carry the same message. She wanted to write like that. Perhaps she wished to use the "conquer" word and make it more game related. Simply put: she wanted it worded like that to convey a certain message.
I'm not flaming you. I just think you're picking at such minute details that reading your post is more annoying then reading the errors in her work. Perhaps you should apply for an editor position at that web page instead and spare us her grammatical inaccuracies beforehand.
I play the firearmsmod for halflife... and I clan with [PoP]. While I admit we're nowhere near a group of average on-line gamers (Average Age is 30.5 I believe) we do have a husband wife team playing shoot-em ups.
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But, men, note this lesson well. Not only do women camp incredibly well, they're much better at gloating than we are. : )
FAMod tends to be about territorial control, so camping isn't quite what it is in some mods... go, read up,
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My girlfriend and her twin are more involved in Dynasty Warriors than Leu Bei of the Shu family did so many years ago. They mostly play as the female characters. It's a ton of fun...
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I read a lot online, and you're right, much of it is poorly copy-edited. It nearly always annoys me, and I guess I was just in the mood to complain about it this time.
By the way, I don't know about the Word 97 grammar checker in particular, but every grammar checker I've ever used has been so horrendous I turned it off. Not only do they flag things that are correct (albeit perhaps not considered "best practices"), they miss completely blatant errors. I think one time I deliberately entered a random sequence of words and whatever grammar checker I was testing at the time saw nothing wrong with it.
I think you're reading that rather charitably, and even so, I see little more justification for it than for the belief that playing violent video games causes real-life violence. I.e., it might be "common sense", but there doesn't seem to be any actual support for it.
Of course, but if you want your posts to look more like mine, try the <blockquote> tag.
If you honestly think that she was being that wordy to try to achieve a particular effect, then I can see why you wouldn't object to her writing style. She can certainly use the word "conquer" if she wants to, but what does "It is a well-known fact that" add to her sentence? As far as I can see, it just increases her word count and makes her article more annoying to read.
Well, it should have been pretty easy to tell that my post was a grammar / style flame relatively early on. You could have just skipped over it if you didn't want to read it. On the other hand, then I would have missed out on the chance to see my post criticized on its own terms, so I'm glad that you didn't.
Touche. (Slashdot doesn't appear to give me any way of getting an e with an acute accent. I find that irritating.)
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I'm not flaming you for your punctuational ideosyncrasies.
I'm flaming you for being a pedantic twit who criticizes the style of the argument rather than the substance.
If you want to be an editor, send the author a private email indicating her mistakes. Otherwise, stfu unless you have something the rest of us might be interested in hearing. Your response adds nothing to the overall topic. It is purely a personal ego-booster wherein you get to act holier-than-her and show off how big your spelling/grammar-dick is.
It's fine if you think her style interferes with her substance, but at least address the substance.
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and in case it doesn't, that's 3 different accents and an oomlaut (gah, did I spell that right?). As long as the text window accepts the entry and the page displays it right, Slashdot shouldn't have to give you a special way to enter the characters.
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If I meet a girl who plays video games, it had better be because she likes it, not just so she can get in my pants.
Yeah, you tell 'em! I hate it when girls try to get into my pants! How dare they think of me as a sex object!
"Are you being weird, or sarcastic?" said Emma. I said I didn't know because I get the two feelings mixed up.
They only differ in their education, they want to be cute and female. Playing computer games is not cute and female so they don't 'like' it.
I'd like to try an experiment where girls are risen like boys, and boys like girls. Let us see who is more likely to play computer games then.
Have you seen the mutants who attend a gaming convention or LAN party?
Maybe she likes Descent? D3 was not half bad...
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Just keep in mind that the girlfriend who plays games is rare and a prized jewel. Mine got away. :(
Now, how do I convince my current girlfriend to play more video games with me? She's usually reading The New Yorker while I'm having a frag fest, though she does occasionally enjoy button-mashing in Street Fighter games. Sigh.
I believe it's "umlaut" (with one over the first "u", but of course Slashdot won't let me type that). I tried both pasting the character into the text box, as you apparently did, and using the é escape sequence. The former gave me just a plain "e", and the latter gave nothing at all.
I metamoderate all Redundant and Offtopic moderations as Unfair.
My fiance is a freak for Dr Mario. She also likes Tetris.
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...so I didn't get to read. That said, I think the biggest problem with not having girl gamers is the fact that video games are still not a "girl toy", much like a barby doll isnt a "boy toy". (I'm sure someones going to think of something funny to say to that). Most female gamer's I've run across started because of their boyfriend or husband's addiction. They'll start seeing them, then jump on the gaming bandwagon. Intrest isn't usually enough to keep the player either. A lot of women will be interested in gaming, and pick it up and give it a try, and simply find it too hard to get into. I'm a long time gamer, so picking up a new game isn't too hard for me. That said, I still have a hell of a time doing well in multiplayer games. I don't have the time it takes to get good at them. Usually this drives me away from many games, because going online, losing all the time, and being told to "stfu newb" whenever you say something, is quite frustrating. Really good games I'll stay on for the stretch though. But what if I had never touched a computer game in my life? The frustration would be so much I'd just go back to doing what I've always been doing. Jumpping on a computer isn't natrual to non computer users. Way back I had my fiance jump on rogue squadron because she loves star wars. She couldnt even operate the arrow keys correctly to fly the plane around. I thought using the arrow keys was a natraul skill and easy to use, but she had a lot of difficutly with it. I remember making the switch from doom/duke3d on the keyboard to quake. I tried so hard to play quake with a keyboard, but you just couldn't do it. It took me a while to pick up the mouse/keyboard control scheme. Now throw a novice into a game of q3 or UT and see how hard it is to get going? How can you learn to walk when you are getting blow up ever 2 seconds? Consol gaming is easy to get them into it. Its very entertainment oriented, and the controls aren't overly complex to start out. Actually my last girlfriend kicked my ass left and right on any nintendo game we played together. I couldn't touch her in sf2 on the snes. Her timing in all the competative nes games just dominated mine. She also showed me where everything was in zelda on the snes so I could actually get through the game quite easily. But we broke up, and she's got a girlfriend now... So maybe it is genetic ;)
My parents didn't let me get a system, so at about my senior year in HS I bought my own. I quickly figured out what kinds of games I liked. It turned out to be games with pretty defined goals. I often don't enjoy figuring things out in games - I want to know how the game is supposed to work and what I am supposed to do next. The only way I got through a few games was with my boyfriend, now husband, walking me through them at places. I can't say this is typical of all girls, but I know at least a few more like me. That's why you'll us playing games like Tetris. The goal there is pretty defined. No guessing that you collect certain items in a correct order, at a certain time on the clock, to get a door to open. I don't like fiddling around with things like that and if I can't figure it out, I'll quit.
Another thing that really affects which games I enjoy is that many of the 3-D games give me motion sickness. Some are done well enough that it is not a problem, but many are not. That cuts out a lot of the shooter style games, as well as driving games.
A tip to the guys out there trying to get their girlfriends to play (this should be obvious but it's not always) - don't convince us to play a game that you love and have played religiously, and then kick our butts. Continual losing when you don't even know what button does what yet does not make someone enjoy a game.
I don't think gaming really provides many dating opportunities on its own. In our case though, the fact that I enjoy games too helps our relationship. If your S/O is a non-gamer, they many really wonder whether that $300 you spent on the new console is worth it and/or envy the time you spend on the computer figuring out the latest RPG because that means you're not spending the time with them.
Most people would die sooner than think; in fact, they do.
girls like girl things and boys like boy things. overall this is where things are, where they're going to stay, and where they should be.
girls like gay men because most gay men think along the same lines as most women.
men like girl gamers because most girl gamers think along the same lines as men.
i for one don't care that there aren't many women in gaming - let them do what they want, i'll do what i want. my girlfriend (and my friends who are women) don't try to get me to learn hairstyling or try to teach me the intricate details of fingernail painting, or try to get me to watch sex in the city all the time. i, conversely, don't try to get them to help me work on my car or play any of the games i play.
why some men want to have a woman that thinks like them is beyond me - i love that my girlfriend spends a lot of money on silly porcelain dolls and frilly house decorations. i don't understand it, but i don't go around trying to recruit women that think like me, or try to convince her that my way (the mans way) is better. She also never tries to get me to watch any program on lifetime, or anything like that. we each love that the other is filling the role that their chromasomes have given them, and enjoying it.
I for one like the variety that comes with the presence of a woman. i don't want to date someone that knows a lot about computers, and i don't want to date someone that plays a lot of games. I want to date someone that does girly things - things that I don't do. And thankfully my girlfriend wants a man who does manly things and wants nothing to do with girly things.
most men like women who are women, and most women like men who are men.
what's wrong with that? let women do their thing, they let me play games and i have no desire to add a woman into my gaming. if she wants in on her own accord, perfect! if she doesn't, perfect!
my point is that there are few women in gaming for the same reason that there are few men working in beauty salons. most woman that work in a beauty salon want more men in there, and most male gamers want more women to game with, but the reason why its not happening is clear: most men don't *want* do do hair, and most women don't *want* to play games.
First they take my rib, now they want my games?! FORGET IT!
Women don't play games because it's seen as boring, dorky, geeky etc. Just like using a computer was 15-20 years ago. I suspect this will change, since every girl now has a gaming system of some type in her house (ie a PC) and most of them carry one on them at all times (a cell phone). Also, console/pc games are a lot more mainstream than they were 10-15 years ago. I think this bias will change with time, and a lot of the younger girls now will grow up playing games, where as women around my age (mid-late 20's) are hopeless if they don't play already. :)
My girlfriend is a hardcore gamer already.
Is that what you call your right hand?
I believe it's "umlaut" (with one over the first "u", but of course Slashdot won't let me type that).
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That seems right, I've rarely seen the word written out, it was simply spoken quite often in my German classes through high school.
I tried both pasting the character into the text box, as you apparently did, and using the escape sequence. The former gave me just a plain "e", and the latter gave nothing at all.
That's exactly what I did, because I don't even know the character sequences for them (since they're unused in English unless you're using foreign words that are commonly accepted). I'm simply glad I never had to type any of my German homework
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What's a 'girl'? ;)
I... I feel so *used*.
At this year's Quakecon there will be a females only tournament.
When I read this, I was IMed by a female friend of mine wondering when I'll be back to my Uni dorm so she can play more Diablo II. This was immediately after another female friend of mine sent me an email detailing how much fun she had playing Super Smash Brothers Melee as Kirby. ... I'm telling you, female gamers exist. They are all over the place - it is just that most males tend to look at places other than a computer/TV screen when it comes to females. Then again, it might just be that they never ask.
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The editor now notes that the article was meant as satire.
Ok, that makes sense, since otherwise I would have thought it was horseshit.
However, we might have realized it was satire IF IT WAS FUCKING FUNNY.
There are no trails. There are no trees out here.
Perhaps, as Steven Pinker discussed in his book The Blank Slate: The Modern Denial of Human Nature, the reason that more girls aren't gamers is that they simply aren't interested. The book points out that the entry ratios for male and female applicants to undergrad math/science/engineering courses are often about 50:50, but many more female students than male decide to persue other interests; when interviewed, they often reveal that they attended the math/sci/eng. course due to pressure from family or teachers.
Pinker also makes note of the fact that while professional women (snicker) do often make less money than their male counterparts, they usually do so because they place a higher priority on leaving the office in time to spend time with their children and families than do most corporate-ladder climbers missing a chromosomal arm; they are willing to trade money and status for things that males are not.
Of course, I'm not trying to make sweeping generalizations, shoving people into cubbyholes, but statistically, this is what seems to happen.
Male goes to aerobics class. Most women shun him and think he's gay. Women walks into LAN party. Every guy in the room (most of whom are single) wants her and caters to her every whim. Luckily prison populations are increasing so the sex ratio can go back the other way. Right now there's far too many men.
-Libertarian secular transhumanist
But are less violent than males overall...
Would that make it harder for those who try to prove that video games cause violence? Or would they just change the debate to "video games cause violent behavior in MALES" ?
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Such is life, and to a large extent there's absolutely nothing wrong with this. Furthermore I would add that this is the way people are in general, whether it's about videogames or anything else. Both men and women will do things to include themselves in some social unit. The only difference is that women will generally see the relationship benefits of the activity, whereas guys tend to be oblivious to this sort of thing.
I guess this is just further affirmation that gaming is getting more mainstream, since it's evaluated in contexts other than 13-year-old l33t 1-0wn3rz-j00 circles. We'll probably find that other groups of people will have different motivations for getting into gaming, and this is a good thing. One thing I've observed is that some people that have never played games before have recently gotten into a particular game and have kicked some serious ass (I'm talking console/fighting games and first person shooters). I'm actually quite pleased that being a good gamer does not require a history of geekiness, although this is a theory that is still left to be proven.
If you play video games and he plays video games then you have something to talk about. Not to mention something to do together that you both enjoy.
so why not just play and make better grades.
and my favorite
Your boss goes in there when he gets really stressed about something to play a good game of Halo. You go in there and ask if you can join him. You play a round of Halo with his and voila! Instant respect.
Makes you kinda wonder if Dot is really a girl, doesn't it?
Imagine for a moment Dot is a girl saying these things. Now imagine Dot is really a guy saying these things. Draw your own suspicions.
"Last one in is a rotten goblin!" - Kepp
There's no need to post these trials. Try using the preview button instead. Remember that button? The one next to submit?
"Last one in is a rotten goblin!" - Kepp
TephX has every right to critique it. If you put it out on print, expect it to be critiqued.
Spelling and grammar checkers may be horrible, but what does it cost you to run them? 2 minutes of your time? Afterwhich you can choose to correct your mistake or dismiss it.
If you publish an article, especially a feature on a website, your intention is to convey a message to an audience. In addition, most writers have the desire to establish themselves as representatives, and generate interest in their views and opinions. Usually, people expect the writer with such responsibilities to have writing skills.
Otherwise, we have propogation of poor writing by example. Why do that when you can have propogation of better writing to improve everyone's skills.
Conventions about posts and comments on a forum are different. Just as they are for personal letters, IM messages, personal e-mails and corporate e-mails corporate. If you don't understand this then the point is lost.
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How many female slashdotters are wh0rez and how many female slashdotters have knowingly participated in pr0n (that's pornography to you ladies). To rephrase, how many girls on this site knowingly perform sexual acts on video knowing that they will likely be shown on the internet? Inquiring minds wanna know!
This year at QuakeCon 2003 there will be the very first female gaming tournament in the event's history. The turn-out is expected to be a mix of boyfriends, hangers-on, and droolers.
More details here.
Why are you flaming him for his criticism at all?
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I am interested about the quality of the writing since I had the same views. I was wondering if anyone else noticed this too. So it's quite relevant. Could it be that there are people that share the same opinion, but not yours?
I might accuse you of the same ego-boosting by being her champion and defending her poor writing. Or perhaps you feel righteous in displaying your compassion in print.
The importance in poor writing style actually has impacted my evaluation of whether the the website is worth my time to ever visit again. Had I seen his critique, I might have avoided the frustration of trying to muddle through her arguments.
Quite frankly, I find her excuses for her arguments (content) just as poor as her writing style. I suggest anyone who thinks of clicking on the link to avoid it.
BTW, anyone using the acronym STFU and having to resort to profanity in general, is usually regarded by most readers, especially on slashdot, as having weak arguments. Not that I think that about you. Just a general perception. I might suggest you pick better words. Just trying to be helpful
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Dear Snowcone and Dot,
Please forgive me for the fact that this may belong in the discussion forum, however, since I do not have permission to post, I present to you here some support and counterpoint insights. This is in response to "chick gamer".
Let me start by saying that the fact that society teaches girls to play with barbies and boys to play with hotwheels, is in my humble opinion, two halves of a full glass, in which the glass can not be filled unless both are present.
While its true indeed that "society" teaches us from an early age that boys play with hotwheels and girls play with barbies, nobody seems to want to dig deep enough and uncover the importance of why this is. Thinking simply in this case helps to elucidate my point. Toy cars are as inanimate an object in real life as they are in their representation in toy form, while Barbies are inanimate representations of walking, talking, emotional people in real life. The point is males suffer from social skills by playing with hotwheels since their target of attention is on possessions of property, not people and interactivity. I propose to you that playing with Ken and Barbie dolls for ten years, and especially with others that play with them, will forge better understanding of human emotions and personalities, than Tonka trucks.
However, this is not a one sided coin. Playing with barbie dolls necessitates events, conditions, active content, without which there is nothing interesting about Ken or Barbie. Planes and trains, while missing the emotional content, have all the ingredients of action. They were designed and manufactured to move, fly, crash, chase and honk.
Is it any wonder that the stereotype married couple consists of the "bored housewife" and the "emotionless husband"? Is it any wonder that traditionally for centuries, women have been excluded from the affairs of business (most notably manufacturing, engineering, finance, property) and we've expected men to work in industries, write laws, and serve the government and it's extension the military. In addition to the ethical and moral reasons that have usually been the focus of equality rights, from an effectiveness standpoint, this is very flawed. The key pivot for business has always been about relationships. The key pivot for government is how we treat one another. The cascading effects of all this and why it's in shambles is for another discussion and I digress.
Videogames, although originate from the same vain as toy cars, have been progressing rapidly toward an endstate that supports both models (toy cars and Barbies). More importantly, it can support both together. With the introduction of multiplayer, in many of its forms, such as consoles with multiple controllers, online, and converging technologies for handhelds, it won't take a brain surgeon or prophet to see that the digital games industry may bridge the gap between the sexes, for so many reasons. Many examples exist today that break the barriers. These examples, I will point out, allow anonymous participation where girls stomp through boy's territories and boys skirt through the girl's fields. Better still, is the fact that in light of these conditions, many take their traditional "roles" and enjoy it. It's entirely up to the person.
As far as dating is concerned, to promote girl's to play videogames as a method to closer understanding boys is probably on the right track, but similarly, I would recommend to boys to take an interest in and practice the art and process of what girls do. However I must stress to you the fact that since videogames are more accessible to girls now, and will be more in the future, it behooves the girl to atleast look into it as you state, especially for online. The bottom line being that [1] most geek guys are starved for female attention, [2] furthermore female _geek_ attention, [3] quantity and quality of emotion, time, other resources invested is at the discretion of the player. However, to force one's self to like something because someone else does,
"Last one in is a rotten goblin!" - Kepp
"in a world dominated by the male sex, why do women choose to put themselves in the position of the minority?"
Why? THIS is why.
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Extra chromosome != male. Extra chromosome = wuh-oh.
:)
That was my initial reaction too. But in fact, men have an extra kind of chromosome (Y), which women lack, so the statement is not entirely unreasonable. Even if it is a little disconcerting.
Do you have any pics??!
is probably a guy... :)
I am what you would call one of those few with the extra chromosone. I have played video games for the past 15 years and still going strong. I spend the good portion of my time playing online games, mostly first person shooter games. Name a game and I have played it, beat it, and taken on several of my male friends. I do not play because I want to fit in or view myself as a minority group. I play for the fun and love of the game itself. Why you ask do women put themselves in a group where they are going to be a minority? Well, I don't view myself as a minority. You seem some girls know what gaming is all about and what goes into making a game, how to sit and enjoy the full beauty of the game. I do not play the "girl" games as some may put it, like mario, and powerpuff girls or whatever is out there. I want adventure and challenges of which none of those games can give me. I think that all games are geared equally to both male and female. I am really looking forward to doom3 and HL2. My BF and I sometimes play quake with our friends over our lan and it's great. I get exited when I get a new map or new character mod. I am not the minority and never will I feel that way. I feel that this may be an issue to some men because maybe they fear the world that once they called there's will soon be dominated by women. More and more women are becoming more acquainted with today's technology and are not only playing the games but some are taking part in making them. See for yourself!! http://www.igda.org/board/
Fucking retard.
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She got all excited when I came home early from work one day and she was sitting in front of my computer...she tried to hide it. I told her to go ahead and sit and play and I would marvel at her wonderfulness. I was really excited that she would learn to play with me.
I couldn't help myself. I laughed at her when I realized that she was trying to play the game with teh arrow keys instead of wasd. She was so upset and frustrated that she's never played with me again. That was over a year and a half ago.
I am a bad bad husband.
Who is this that even the wind and the waves obey Him? Surely this computer must submit also!
but even a retard could get a PhD in chemistry. hugalugalugalugalug.
Redundant? Maybe offtopic; but since nobody else seemed to joke about this, it's not redundant.
Indeed.
You laughed because she used the arrow keys? I don't understand this. I have been playing FPS for what seems like forever now and have always used the arrow keys to advance and strafe. I have friends who like to laugh about this setup as well. Usually after I hand them a beating in whatever game we are playing my keyboard setup becomes a moot point.
"stfu newb".... that is hte funnies thing ever *sorry I don't online game and that is just so funny to me*
My girlfriend: Has a SNES and a GBA. Loves 2D platformers, racing games and weird games. Likes: Burnout 2, Crazy Taxi, Sonic Adventure DX, Wario Ware. Dislikes: Quake, Street Fighter, Ikaruga.
Female Friend #1: Has a GC and a NES. Likes plaformers and puzzle games. Likes: Super Monkey Ball 2, Mario Sunshine, Zelda. Dislikes: F1 2002, Grand Prix Legends, All Sports titles.
Female Friend #2: Has a PC and a PS2. Likes strategy and RPGs. Likes: Morrowind, Civ 3, Diablo 2, Age of Empires. Dislikes: The Sims, Armoured Core 3.
Female Friend #3: Has a Mac, PC and a PS1 and PS2. Likes: FPSs, Shoot-em-ups. Likes: Q3A, UT2K3, TFC, Tribes 2. Dislikes: Puzzle Games, Racers and RPGs.
Looking at my gf and friends, i dont really see a pattern in types of games they play, or the way they play. Oh and all of these people are damn good at the games that they like. #3 ranks well amongst the better UT2K3 and Q3A players.
I dont know if its just me, but nowadays I see a lot of girls in the arcades, and a fair few of them in the LAN outfits as well.
I think these analysis' of female game players are more or less looking and segregating the opposite sex too objectively. Is is that there are just as many female gamefans, that just dont want to openly admit it as much as males?
All of my female friends pretty much play games of one sort of another - they just dont get as fanatical discussing it over coffee as i do with my male friends.