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Airborne Video With an R/C helicopter
PerryResearch writes "MacGyver would be jealous - here are the plans for a complete 2.4 ghz wireless video transmission system, mounted on a Mikado Logo 20 R/C helicopter, with realtime video overlay showing wireless signal strength, GPS coordinates, and support for videoglasses. Make sure you check out some of their in-flight videos."
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From the site:
"The first 3 videos are recorded end of March, 2002 (the construction area seen in the videos is for a new suburban railway line), the 4th video in May, 2002 (as can also be seen from the overlaid GPS-data)."
Now I can spy on the chick next door.. I just have to hope she doesn't see a mini helicopter with a camera hanging off of it flying outside her bedroom window!
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Simply had to get that first post.
This type of tech would be great for terrorists to plan attacks. All you'd need is something like this, some simple trig, and a morter and you be able to get pretty good target accuracy.
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
...the pale, skinny kid next door gains a new weapon in his unending pursuit of porn.
"I just love the smell of coconut oil in the morning," he'll smirk, piloting his wanking whirlybird closer to the unsuspecting female.
And voila! a new fetish is born.
who is the moron that chooses this news?
MacGyver would be jealous
Only if they built it from some branches, a trashcan that was lying around somewhere and an old carburator from a dead moped.People replying to my sig annoy me. That's why I change it all the time.
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Cutting edge reporting by Slashdot...
For example, cross country bicycle racing. As a sport - it's fantastic to do it, but extremely boring to watch, because the camera cannot follow riders as it does in road racing. A heli-mounted camera is what this sport is waiting for.
Here's another company, Segtao, that sells R/C Helicopters with similar specs.
Lets just hope it doesn't block that winning touchdown pass at the superbowl. Seriously though.. how about outdoor sporting events in rugged terrain. Or maybe to survey the damage at a post nuclear accident or some kind of toxic gas filled area. Then again you could allways fit it with a laser and paint targets for cruise missiles.
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Just imagine: build a helicopter with a camera and equip it with a 3G mobile phone.
:/
Then you can dial in to the helicopter and control it with another phone in your hand while seeing the video streamed live to your device. This could, of course, already work with GPRS or HSCSD, but with 3G its much more l33t.
And you do not want to receive a call from your mom, which would interrupt your current transmission
My cats ate my karma. They also wrote this comment.
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If all the world's a stage, anyone who says they want better lighting spends far too much time in a dark theatre.
Mirror in progress of those videos...
This might give me the final push in ordering a R/C heli. Any advice on starter models and how steep the learning curve is?
*goes back to playing the R/C heli mission in GTA Vice City*
It's a shame I can't fit into a 2.4 ghz channel.
If only these toys could be made big enough to put people inside. The experience of actually being up in the sky, as well as having the view, would be amazing.
Karma: Bad due to google bombing - Robert Watkins woz 'ere.
If the camera fitted was an infrared camera, this would be great to help find lost hikers/ skiiers.
This could also be adapted for something like rogaining - every team carries some form of tag. Helicopter flies around competition area giving real-time tracking of competitors and also some cool video.
Someone will have a webserver running in a hovering helicopter... which we can slashdot, yay! Brings new meaning to the phrase "crashing the server".
It's pretty impressive that the server's not crashed yet (even though it's not on the actual helicopter), seeing as it's offering avi's on slashdot.
Imagine a beowolf cluster of these!
:)
Seriously, though - multiple helicopters with onboard computers obeying simple rules could quite feasably do useful things like intelligently scouring disaster sites for victims, or evaluating the extent of a fire.
Of course, they could also all coalesce and become Skynet!
Video eyeglasses?
Seeing this guy wearing his clunky "Video I-glasses" made me wonder why these never caught on.* Three or four years ago I tried on a pair of television eyeglasses, and was sure that within a few years, the technology would improve to the point where these things would become practical, ubiquitous and cheap replacements for computer monitors. So why the total lack of demand? * And no, I don't mean as fashion accessories. Smartass.OK, it's a toy-story (old or new - egal), but how much do you save, if you use it instead of a "big" helicopter? An idea anyone?
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I don't care if it is off topic. It's funny!!
These would make brilliant spy planes! They could silently sneak into a Russian military bunker in the middle of the night!
*whirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr*
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Wow, someone bought an X10 camera! I think I'd prolly refuse to buy an X10 camera out of principle or at least sue X10 afterwards for failure of said cameras to reveal scantly clad women all over the place!
Hate me!
to learn how to fly an R/C helicopter.
Buy one of these:
http://www.rctoys.com/draganflyer3.php
You just can't say "cypher serrare" without Perry Research...
From the viedo page:
;-P
"All videos are made at the field back of my house in Bielefeld, Germany."
This is clearly a hoax. Everybody knows that Bielefeld does not exist. But THEY want to make us believe that it does exist.
Obviously they choose to use advanced tactics to make us believe it exists. But THEY can't fool me
Sure, old news, like two years isn't new here....and lame articles that don't inspire....not new either...and even more lame comments...well, what would /. be without them?
But all of the above as a routine?
It's true folks, this place is no longer the touchstone it used to be...pack it in packers, this dump is officially dead wood.
And regarding mindless... Zwitserland was never invaded nor 'rolled over'. They were neural. You must be thinking of Austria. But hey, it's all the same, right?
But more on topic: Think of everyone having a helicopeter like this hovering over their head, controlled by 'men on walls'... Nice addition to the TIA or LifeLog program!
Your method of achieving security has its costs.
But wait... Incorrect facts, nazis....right wing nuts.... Flamebait! Damn! fell for it again....
This has been done for some time with RC planes. Examples are here
[kitesplus.com], here
[k8xg.com], and here
[zagicam.com].
What's better than a /. link to a picture gallery? Why a /. link to a page with videos of course!
Nice going guys.... and yes, i did put in "Sex" to attract attention.
A Japanese farmer was cropdusting his rice paddy with an R/C chopper and it cut his leg off when it crashed in to him.
Moral of the story? Becareful, Slashdotters!
They were neural? You mean they were mental as in 'going mental'? Or they had neural nets? In the 1940's!?!?!
A cheap way to do this is with an X10 camera. Once taken out of it's base, the camera element and circuitry is fairly light. The biggest problem with them though is that they use a directional antenna. Unless you have a strong receiver the picture is going to look like crap unless you manage to keep the chopper oriented correctly. You could try aiming the antenna straight down and flying above yourself, but that really limits the usefullness of the setup. I would recommend wiring up an antenna from a 2.4ghz phone. (By being designed for the same freq, 2.4ghz, it should work pretty well)
I don't remember the voltage that the camera runs on, but it is definately low voltage DC. You could wire up a battery holder from Radio Snack for pretty cheap and get several hours of use out of it. If you're going to be away from electrical outlets simply use a powerful enough inverter hooked to your car battery to power the receiver and recording device.
Chika Chik-ah... do-e ow ow.
Kite fliers have been hanging cameras off their kites for a long time now. Despite the freakin' pop-up ads, X-10 has a wireless camera that we have dabbled with on R/C cars for a while.
:-)
It is only logical that as the technology gets better, more features will be backed into smaller spaces making this sort of "event" (new tech in old applications) even more commonplace.
That said, I'd rather put the camera on a model P-51 Mustang and get some really high speed shots doing insane stunts that would never be humanly possible!
At the 2003 Rochester Hamfest, some folks were demonstrating a lower-tech, longer-range, lower-cost concept. They were using the 220MHz band to control a blimp (which has a lower energy cost than a chopper, and is also less noisy), and the 440MHz band to send back NTSC video. This setup has been used in previous years, also.
Of course, it required a license, but the license is easy to get these days, and every geek should have one, because it also makes higher-powered 802.11 legal.
www.wavefront-av.com
High-Rise perverts can take it to a whole new level.
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You'd think that it would be possible to abstract the control scheme and build a controller that was more natural. That RC mission in Vice City sucked 'cause it was way to hard to grok the controls.
RC Copters are popular with Japanese farmers, they use them to spray pesticides on a small scale. Aum Shinrikyo used this idea, they bought 3 mini copters with the intention of spraying botulism toxin over Tokyo. But they crashed all 3 copters while learning how to fly them. End of plan.
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On a related note, here's a story from yesterday's Mainichi Daily News, "Farmer's radio-controlled chopper cuts off his leg"
http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/news/archive/200307/3
You could use LOGO to program the directions...
I'm suprised no one else has mentioned this yet. If you are 'all-thumbs' and can't learn how to fly a R/C chopper, why not buy/build a system that flies itself based on GPS waypoints. This bad boy has been on my "When I Win Powerball" list for about 3 months now: http://www.nationalinfrared.com/x20/shop/pshow.php ?SKU=UAV-E2&id_category=17
3 Hour flight time... TI camera... Even has a target tracking mode! And it literally flies itself. The only shortcoming is that you lose the stationary flight capibility of a chopper. But really, all this does is preclude you from getting arrested for being a Peeping Tom.
Check out the movies, they do an impressive job of showing the capibilities of the system.
I'm perceiving a nodal point around Slashdot...
Yup...Someone strapped a Sony Clie to the bottom of an RC plain to film the "experience"! Check it out here
My mom always said, "Jim, you're 1 in a million." Given the current population, there are 7000 of me. God help us all!
Hey guys, I have been flying R/C for a long time. About 3 years ago I built a little, cheap, but highly functional mount for my .30 sized helicopter. Since then I started a company and purchased a 6.5 foot 23 lb helicopter that carries a Canon GL1 high quality video camera, 2.4 Ghz Video Downlink, Canon Powershop S400 Elph for stills, and more. My website is VERY OLD and outdated, but check out some of the stuff I have done here:
.30 rig, the new rig is featured (for now) here:
http://www.rchelicam.com
Most pics on the site are from the old demo
http://www.rchelicam.com/gasser/
What do ya think?
--Geoff
"Aces Are Wild"
http://www.rchelicam.com
I don't recall the name of the person or company that did this, but the video for the Emerson Lake and Palmer song "Black Moon" utilized a largish RC helicopter with a film camera that shot the band inside a limestone quarry. In addition to dramatic overhead shots from the swooping copter, it was able to do the job of a dolly or crane.
One problem that does crop up is that the helicopter has to shoot upwind lest its exhaust screws up the shot.
You should instead hope that she doesn't figure out how a mini camera transmitter got glued to the outside of her bedroom window.
That is obvious. You figure out how to change the batteries.
Isn't that why the helicopter has GPS?
even better to have a gyro on board so the thing is self levelling and easy to fly.
:o)
You could drive along with a passenger in the car controlling it flying above you, and you wouldn't have to slow down for junctions... you'd know the roads ahead were clear. Lovely.
Or, from a fixed location, increase the range with a repeater system hanging from a tethered balloon. I daydream about these things, when I could be thinking about women instead... I truly am a geek
For those suggesting the idea of using it to track races, it would be far more practical, cheaper and less threatening to the public to use the weather balloon-pizza-box camera that was a thread here just last week.
Yes, flying model helicopters are dangerous to J.Q. Public when some nump loses control, yells "Oh Shit!", and the thing comes careening down and gives a bystander a close shave.
At least the balloon camera combo can be deployed with decent motor-mount cameras, more electronics and you wouldn't have to worry about some noob in the crowd scamming your same frequency with another chopper and turning the bike race into a game of drunken Battle-Bots in the sky.
Never have a philosophy which supports a lack of courage
It's as if they took a remote controlled helicopter and PUT A VIDEO CAMERA ON IT!!!
Sorry, but that really isn't impressive at all compared to the Aerial Robotics Competition. They fly themselves!
WOW. Some guy bought a camera from X10 and stuck it on a helicopter. Is this really news?
...will be the solution. The aerospace industry has so many unstable designs now that would otherwise be unable to fly without computers, I can't see why the same school of thought shouldn't be applied to helicopters. If we can have small handhelds packing 300+MHz processors, surely we can have a similarly powerful system in an R/C chopper.
http://autopilot.sourceforge.net/ It seems very interesting and probably much nicer to use (once it's finsihed) since you get an autopilot :)
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It was impossible to align the PC antenna to receive a clean signal from more than a single camera. The signal degrades quickly with distance.
The video picture reminded me of UHF TV before cable (rabbit ears). Maybe I should have tried a coat hanger or aluminum foil on the antennae?
I cant wait till the attachable mp3 player comes to production, and maybe a obtional bb gun for those pesky tweety birds that block my view into my sisters bedroom window.... Not that i look at my sister or anything... oh shit nevermind
actually...I find it's much better to use an RC blimp when conducting tomish peeping....it's quiet so they stay unsuspecting for longer.
besides, what makes you think the military hasn't had their own RC spy drones already? They are currently in love with the predator and so forth and they do have projects on helicopter versions, though I think they are generally larger than this...
I know for a fact that NASCAR and other racing organizations use RC Choppers with a video link to record racing footage up close. They basically have a small video camera mounted on the chopper and fly it close to the edge of the track to get close up camera shots of the cars on the banked section of the oval. Gives a neat birds eye prespective to racing for the viewer at home. I will try and check out the videos from the article once the /. effect has subsided.
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project/chopper/www /heli_project.html
./ wannabe minut.ee have never mentioned it
Carnegie Mellon's autonomous helicopter model. AFAIC, flew with on-board laser mapping system. Of course, development time and budget are of another league, compared to my fellow countryman Risto here. Restecp for such achievements.
Funny that our local news outlets, including
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Japanese researcher Sugeno developed a voice-controlled autonomously stabilized small helicopters in 1991.
http://www.rc-cam.com
I can't speak for an RC model, but I am a student pilot in the real deal. And it's hellishly touchy. Keeping it stabilized in moderate winds can be a real bitch, and the slightest control inputs are sufficient for control. Overcontrolling is a very easy and common mistake-and still the bane of my existence at over 30hrs dual instruction time. For about my first 10 hours or so I'd have been up shit creek without my CFI. Gives me a helluva lot of respect for Sikorsky, who was both designer and chief test pilot for his first models (and has some accident footage to prove it). Anyway, given the realative difficulty of controlling the beast when you're sitting in it and can feel the balance, I expect remotely controlling one without the feel factor is at least as hard, if not harder.
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Personally, living as close to a women's college as I do, my initial application would be a bit different. But, yeah, lasers and nuclear disasters. That too micht work.
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...why not an R/C airplane? They're a lot easier to learn to fly, they can be built to almost any size and speed, and they're cheaper to build. Granted you're not going to get stop action, but you can go slowly (or quickly) enough to follow the pack.
Check out www.helicamera.com
Guys, it's just not as easy as you think. I have been flying rc helis for 2 years now. With many hours of simulator time and actual flying time I have finally gotten to the point of doing some mild aerobatics like loops and rolls. No one will just pick up a transmitter and fly one of these on the first try - no one. I have progressed from a .30 size to a .60 size and have great respect for them. It will cost you many dollars to get truely involved in this hobby. From the heli, radio, gyro, engine, and not to mention ground support equipment you are going to have easily over $1000 invested in just a .30 size machine.
Are helis unstable - yes, to a certain point, but no where near what they were a few decades ago. Can you build and fly one without some expert help - possibly, but you will still have a huge learning curve this way and you better have a deep checking account for replacement parts. Also, if you are going to try it by yourself, which I don't recommend, please do it in a VERY wide open area with no one around. Small electrics like the Piccolo are not the way to start - they are far more difficult to control than a nitro powered machine. One of the best beginner helis is the Raptor 30 from Thunder Tiger (please note - there really isn't a "trainer" heli, they are all diffcult to fly. What make a good "trainer" is one with the control sensitivities turned down, cheap replacement parts, and a good training gear).
If you want to see what some of these cost visit:
www.heliproz.com
They have all the kits, radios, etc. need to get started and to advance in this hobby.
I second the Raptor 30 recommendation, BTW. Great little heli.
To answer some of the posts:
the technology is readily available and not so high-tech as some might think
the original quality of the video is considerably higher than shown on the web (due to high compression, big losses)
no, I do not offer it as a kit for sale, but:
there are many companies offering ready-to-go solutions, like: http://www.blackwidowav.com/
no, I have nothing to do with peeking nude neighbours ;) or missles (or military in general)
I am aware that the video goggles make me to look like a nerd (if you have not got the opinion otherwise), but the pictures on the web just shows their relative size (in case never seen before)
the helicopter comes from Mikado http://www.mikado-heli.de/ and is a kit. Takes approx. 1 week to assemble, 2 for a novice. Cost around 700$ for a kit, I guess
controlling a model heli is not easy, but one can learn it. Best recommendation is to practise with PC Simulator (not a toy simulator, use a real thing like RealFlight G2 or Aerofly Pro etc.)
Greetigs, Risto
http://www.mh.ttu.ee/risto/rc/
this company DraganFly Innovations has this remote control helicopter and this more expensive model.
The DraganFlyer 4 is relatively cheap and has an optional mini wireless camera too. It flies with all the same controls as a normal helicopter but it is much easier to assemble and requires much less maintenence.
If you are in the market to get an RC chopper, especially for beginners, this is the way to go. Once you learn to fly with one of these, then if you like go and buy an expensive heli.
One of my good friends had struggled with all the common problems (cost, maintanence, steep learning curve) with his 2 RC helis before he found these folks and got his DraganFlyer.
DISCLAIMER: I am not affiliated with that company in any way. I do own a DraganFlyer 3 and have learned to fly it with no previous experience.
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