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Junji Hirayama 's Home Flight Simulator

hifiandrew writes "I love seeing home mockups of cockpits for Flight Simulator like the recent Slashdot article of the person who used 13 Monitors and 9 PC's. But this one takes the cake for cockpit coolness! While doing a Google search for 747 cockpits, I ran across a web site of a person in Japan who has the coolest home cockpit for Flight Simulator I've ever seen. It has a perfect built-to-scale layout, backlit panels and even a projector for the scenery! All running on relatively modest PC hardware. I'm envious!"

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  1. Only in Japan... by ArmenTanzarian · · Score: 5, Funny

    could this guy do this and still have a wife at the end of it.

  2. Cool...but would we get in trouble? by chia_monkey · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ok...that was cool as shit. I want one (well I want a big house, enough money to build it, some time...).

    But...would we in the US get in trouble for building such thing? "It could be used to train terrorists". Life used to be fun...

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    1. Re:Cool...but would we get in trouble? by arkane1234 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Might just as well outlaw driving simulators too.

      Everyone knows that Grand Theft Auto is really a terrorist training software. :)

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    2. Re:Cool...but would we get in trouble? by mnemonic_ · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No, you won't get in trouble. There are plenty of simulation cockpit projects going on by sim players in the U.S. One of them is actually being built using an old F-15 cockpit. Building 'pits is fairly well known in the sim community, and I don't think I've ever heard of people being worried about getting into any kind of trouble.

      Outlawing the construction of cockpits for flight sims would be ridiculous, and is something I highly doubt will ever happen.

    3. Re:Cool...but would we get in trouble? by Becquerel · · Score: 2, Funny

      Outlawing the construction of cockpits for flight sims would be ridiculous, and is something I highly doubt will ever happen.

      You might have said the same about renaming french fries a year ago....only in America.

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  3. wow by CowBovNeal · · Score: 5, Funny


    You know you've been slashdotted when your cockpit simulator crashes without even taking off.

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  4. With us or... by CGP314 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Rummy to Bush: Looks like a terrorist training cell to me.

    Bush: Let's get 'im.

  5. Wow cool! (Sorry 'bout that website though....) by Mantrid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is truly amazing! I can't imagine how many hours something like this must've took. They even used it for a TV show according to his site. I wonder what his real job is? Maybe it should be set designer...

    (too bad about that website of his though, it's a shame really...)

  6. What are your favorite flight sim games? by ACK!! · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Come on, I have been out of the scene for awhile.

    So, give it up.

    What is the best game for the money out there today?

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    1. Re:What are your favorite flight sim games? by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 3, Funny

      Mmmm, a RealDoll in a 60's style stewardess uniform...

    2. Re:What are your favorite flight sim games? by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 3, Informative

      X-Plane. Period. Available here. It does it all, it's hackable, there are tons of free data files on the 'net you can download - new planes, scenery, etc.

      For a few dollars more you can get the Mars scenery discs and fly a plane on Mars.

      And the price is very reasonable compared to some other offerings.

      Dang, just checked the site and saw that there is a version 7 out, guess I need to upgrade... again...

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    3. Re:What are your favorite flight sim games? by mnemonic_ · · Score: 2, Informative

      "Best" means different things for everyone. The "best" simulation might be the easiest one to learn, or the most realistic one, or the one with the best graphics, or the one which has the most accurate representation of an F-16, or a million other things.

      Il-2 Sturmovik FB is probably one of the "best" combat simulations in terms of accurate flight modeling, AI, graphics and selection of aircraft. It's not so hard to learn due to it being a WW2 sim, no complex avionics or procedures. You will have to practice though before getting your first kill.

      For a modern combat sim the best is probably Falcon 4.0 with SuperPak 4 (a user-developed patch using the game's full source code, authorized by the game's publishers). It takes months to become proficient at it though (i.e. be able to operate everything in every mode in your sleep).

      A good helo sim is Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs. Hokum. It's widely accepted that it is by no means "hardcore", with sacrifices to realism made at every turn for the sake of gameplay, but it's very fun and has moderately detailed systems simulation. The 4 year old Longbow 2 is probably the most realistic helo simulation every made, its graphics aren't too bad for a 5 year old game either. You can find it on ebay.

      For a civilian simulation, you might want to look into MS Flight Simulator 2004 or X-Plane.

    4. Re:What are your favorite flight sim games? by Moose4 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      MS Flight Simulator 2004: A Century of Flight is going for about US$55 in stores now. FS2004 has pretty damn nice eye candy and an interesting selection of historic aircraft (Spirit of St. Louis, Douglas DC-3, Lockheed Vega 5, DH.88 Comet, Vickers Vimy) along with the usual FS collection of Cessnas, Learjet 45, Boeing heavy iron, etc. The weather and default terrain are impressive.

      X-Plane's flight model pwns FS2004's in terms of realism, but you can head down to the store and pick up FS2004 now for less as opposed to X-Plane, which you have to get via snailmail. (Both programs require the CD in the drive for copy protection.) The global scenery for X-Plane is $20 extra, and Mars is $10 over that, so a full X-Plane install is almost $90. (You can download the global scenery if you want to, but their servers are throttled to 2-3 kb/s, if they're even up.)

      X-Plane's interface, not to put too fine a point on it, blows. It is very difficult to use compared to FS2004, it's very non-Windoze-standard. FS2004 owns it on graphics quality as well. Both sims can use real weather downloaded off the Internet (built-in w/FS2004, requires a downloadable utility for X-Plane). The big plus for X-Plane is that it comes with world scenery and aircraft builder tools, which FS2004 doesn't.

      FS2004 is (IMO) the better buy for those who just want to pretend they're a pilot. X-Plane is better for the hardcore pilot who wants maximum flight model realism, the "what if" hobbyist that wants to design and try out their own aircraft, and for folks who aren't scared off of a clunky interface. And, a big plus, X-Plane works on OS X.

      You can check out x-plane at www.xplane.com. You can download the 122 MB program there, it's the full program but unless you have an X-Plane CD in your drive, (a) it's limited to the Southern California area, and (b) it disables your joystick after 6 minutes.

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  7. google cache by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    thumbnail images and the (pretty lame) webpage

    1. Re:google cache by seizer · · Score: 2, Informative

      Alternatively, the Wayback Machine has it with some images, but much older:

      http://web.archive.org/web/20020219202626/www.waka yamanet.or.jp/jun/fs/glareshield-main-e.html

  8. Google Cache! by KiranWolf · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's a Google Cache for it.

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  9. Microsoft flight sim by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Currently I'm contracting for NASA doing flight sims and we use the microsoft flight sim as a reference for the layout of our 777 cockpit. I mean its as real as your going to get without being in a real cockpit.

  10. Modest Hardware? by Yebyen · · Score: 5, Funny

    Looks like the flight simulator isn't the only thing running on fairly modest hardware... slashdotted already :)

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  11. Suspicious by Agamous+Child · · Score: 3, Funny

    Anyone know why Andrew was looking up 747 cockpits? Seems like a surefire way to set-off the begin_full_tracking() function at TIA.

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  12. I have my 747 simulator too by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Funny

    I duct-taped my window to leave a very small oval hole about 1m off the ground, put 3 uncomfortable, too narrow chair right next to it, put a large cupboard 30cm in front of them, cranked up the A/C to 15 degrees, and put the stereo's volume at maximum on an empty radio frequency.

    To simulate a flight, I sit on the chair immediately by the window for eight hours, ask an overweight friend to sit right next to me, and ask my wife to come around every two hours with a trolley to serve us shitty coffee.

    It's a very accurate simulation of a 747, and it's much cheaper than all those fancy computer displays and joysticks.

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    1. Re:I have my 747 simulator too by operagost · · Score: 5, Funny

      Mine is like yours, except I occasionally have my friend put a towel on his head and try to hijack my "plane", armed with a nail file.. Then I kick his ass.

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    2. Re:I have my 747 simulator too by spu · · Score: 2, Funny

      You forgot about the screaming kid behind you that should be kicking the back of your seat.

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  13. The best bit about flying it by lewko · · Score: 5, Funny
    You can join the Mile High Club in the adjacent double bedroom with ensuite and walk-in wardrobe...

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  14. temp mirror by abhisarda · · Score: 4, Informative

    Projectj. Its only the main page.

  15. Aggggghhhh! by eyepeepackets · · Score: 2, Funny


    The sound of the previously happy flight simulator person as his little server takes a ***CRUSHING*** blow from half a gazillion /.ers!

    Goodbye little server. *sniff* R.I.P.

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  16. fantasy flight simulators by nounderscores · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Wow, well done.

    Now what would happen if somebody took that concept and applied it to parsec or the wing commander style flight sims?

    I know mech warrior had a nifty little cockpit sim for mall arcade action, but nothing ever had an emersive screen that made your eyes focus on the middle distance.

    Throw in 3d glasses, a big subwoofer and hydraulics from an old massage bed while you're at it.

  17. MAYDAY! by GodHead · · Score: 5, Funny

    Slash-deaded.

    I wonder if a face mask just dropped from the celing..

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  18. go at it yourself by cr@ckwhore · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you're a flight sim nut and want to build your own home cockpit, start at www.projectmagenta.com

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  19. pathalogically geeky by tiled_rainbows · · Score: 4, Funny

    of all the many flavours of geekdom, I think flight sim geeks seem to be the most pathalogically geeky. There was this guy at my university who had a website where you could book flights on his virtual airline. He'd designed the livery of this airline and had made skins for his fleet of planes. If you booked a ticket (don't know if anyone did) he would fly the route and, if you wanted, give you a VHS tape of the view from the seat, to prove that he'd done it. He was one of the scariest people I'd ever met.

    1. Re:pathalogically geeky by ediron2 · · Score: 2, Funny
      There was this guy at my university who had a website where you could book flights on his virtual airline. He'd designed the livery of this airline and had made skins for his fleet of planes. If you booked a ticket (don't know if anyone did) he would fly the route and, if you wanted, give you a VHS tape of the view from the seat, to prove that he'd done it. He was one of the scariest people I'd ever met.
      Post this pAirline's URL... let's see how he handles being slashdotted. Nothin' like 20,000 requests for flights and videotapes to force him back to reality. Or postal.
    2. Re:pathalogically geeky by sanchny · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Just like every hobby, some people will take it more seriously than others. I could give a million examples of geeks in their respective hobbies- video games, Fantasy cosplaying, computers, programming, Britney Spears, TV shows (Simpsons geeks come to mind), movies, cars, Slashdot, science- anything. You name it- if people derive entertainment value from it, there will be some who are geekiers than others.

      And it's a matter of difference of opinion whether someone's obsession is pathological. You think Joe Six-Pack around the office doesn't think his co-worker's obsession with computers is amusing?

      I think what the guy did is pretty cool. There are too many options on flight plans in flight sims, and having someone else set it for you brings a challenge. Plus, he probably thought that people would derive some enjoyment/relaxation out of being on a fantasy flight.

  20. Nooo! by FrostedWheat · · Score: 4, Funny

    I am building Boeing 747-400 type "My Cockpit " for flight simulators

    "My Cockpit"? I bet he has a briefcase with the label "My Documents" on it.

    1. Re:Nooo! by MojoMonkey · · Score: 3, Funny

      Just be glad he didn't name it "Super Happy Fun Cockpit"

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    2. Re:Nooo! by richie2000 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Do not taunt the Super Happy Fun Cockpit!

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  21. Macintosh Flight Sim 1.0 by WC+as+Kato · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What's with geeks now-a-days? I used to fly with MS Flight Sim on my Mac Plus which had 1mb of RAM, 1 floppy drive and no hard drive. Looking back at that, it seems amazing that a flight sim was even possible. It had 1-bit color but it was high res (in comparison to CGA or EGA graphics)!

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  22. Some Photos by Noctilux · · Score: 5, Informative

    I don't normally have anything to contribute to Slashdot, but I have some detailed photos on my website of a 747-400, including the cockpit. Enjoy.

  23. Yeah, right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    "... All running on relatively modest PC hardware. I'm envious!"

    in other words,

    "I'll teach you to show off. Take THAT, webserver!"

  24. "Good Luck" by The+Wing+Lover · · Score: 4, Informative

    The drama that used his simulator in the set, "Good Luck!", is being posted, one episode every couple of weeks, in alt.binaries.multimedia.japan. They're subtitled in English.

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  25. Re:Wow cool! (Sorry 'bout that website though....) by FluxCapacitator · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yeah, I watched the Japanese TV show it was in. The cockpit featured in nearly every episode. I actually thought it was either an extremely expensive prop, one of those flight training simulators, or part of the real thing. Little did I know it was made by some dude in his backyard ^^;

    Actually, this is Japan so it was probably takes up his whole living room...

  26. Would this... by Zebra_X · · Score: 3, Funny

    slashdoting of an international server be considered an "international incident". The server in question is to some extent being 'violated'.

  27. Pictures of other homemade cockpits by emilng · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Links to other projects

    Tons of pictures of other pretty cool looking homemade cockpits.

  28. Relatively modest by Virtex · · Score: 4, Funny

    All running on relatively modest PC hardware. I'm envious!

    No need to be envious. For a small sum of money, you too can be running on relatively modest PC hardware!

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  29. How about a real cockpit by Ro'que · · Score: 2, Interesting

    These guys have a real 747 cockpit they're using as a flight simulator.

  30. Is real flying too scary? by woom · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why don't all these guys who spend b i g bucks on a flightsim mock-up just get a pilots licence? It's way more fun, 100% real and much cheaper. Heck, some of these guys could actually buy a real plane for less than they spend on the computers alone.

  31. X-plane is the sim for you then. by ScottGant · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They explain all this about Mars in their sim...which is why you can't fly just any plane there. Most of the ones are rocket powered.

    They even include a shuttle re-entry from true orbit down to the landing at Edwards...including the wild "S" turns to slow down.

    Plus X-plane is Open-GL based and works both with OSX and WinXP/NT.

    Their flight model is by far the best.

    Be sure to check it out, they also have a downloadable demo.

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  32. Don't ask why that site's down by Bananenrepublik · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe I'll get killed for telling you, but there are truths more important than my life:
    The slashdot effect has now officially become a means of ensuring national security. In fact, the submitter works for the Department of Internet and airspace security.

  33. Flight Sims as Terrorist Training Tools by DG · · Score: 3, Insightful

    All the talk about flight sims used to help train terrorists - at least, for the people not just joking - is mostly wasted worry.

    Here's why: no way, no how will that tactic of "hijack plane, crash into structure" ever work again.

    The only reason it worked the first time was that it was so unexpected. Previously, the MO of a plane hijacking was to fly to some remote location and hold the passengers for ransom. As such, your best chance for survival as a passenger was to lay low, not attract attention to yourself, and wait for either rescue or for the hijackers to get what they wanted.

    The more passive you were, the better things were likely to turn out for you.

    But those days are now irrovocably GONE. Now anybody who even makes the slightest move towards the cockpit is likely to be dogpiled by every passenger on the plane, no matter what weapon the hijacker might be carrying.

    In fact, the days of the "passive hijackee" were over before all the 9/11 planes were out of the air. The news of the change in tactics spread SO quickly that the passengers on Flight 51 (?) prevented the final plane from reaching its target.

    The only way a hijacker can get ahold of a plane these days would be to buy/rent it - and you can be damned sure that the people holding the keys are being VERY dilligent about who can get their hands on something large enough to cause any real damage.

    That's a trick that would only work once.

    DG

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    1. Re:Flight Sims as Terrorist Training Tools by br0ck · · Score: 2, Informative
  34. One word: Freedom. by sanchny · · Score: 2, Insightful
    There are a lot of reasons why people build such simulators, and none of these have to do with money. The main reason is freedom. With simulators, you have the freedom to do whatever you want without consequences.

    - Freedom to fly from anywhere you want, instantly.
    - Freedom to fly whatever plane you want.
    - Freedom to disobey as many rules and laws as you want: FAA regulations, laws of physics, any international laws.
    - Freedom to stop whenever you want, from the comfort of your own home. If you suddenly feel like stoppping and taking a nap, it's pretty hard to do that in a real plane.
    - Location. Yes, real flying gets you somewhere. That's not exactly the main purpose for (most) pilots- the actual flight is. It would be a major inconvenience to end up halfway around the world if you just wanted to fly, and it wouldn't be much fun to just limit yourself to flying around your city/state.
    - Freedom to fly whenever you want for as long as you want. No need to spend time going to the airport, setting up your flight with the airport or FAA (however that's done, I'm not sure). No need to go through too much hassle to fly.
    - Safety. Make a mistake in a flight sim, no big deal. Make a mistake in real life...
    - Partially, money. Sure, the initial investment might be bigger than when buying a plane, but the maintenance costs of a real plane would be bigger than a simulator. There's fuel, labor costs, mechanical costs, airport/FAA costs (if there are any, I'm not sure).

    Oh yeah, IANAP. :)

  35. Not pathologically geeky by No+Such+Agency · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Where's the bad? The guy was having fun (I assume), and had the extra realism & challenge of not choosing where he was flying to (if anyone took him up on the offer that is). "Pathological", maybe, but only if you think that a very weird hobby = disease. It's not like he was out raping nuns or something.

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