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What's Always Next?

bettiwettiwoo writes "In its 'What's Next' issue, Time has a charmingly silly piece called What's Always Next? , in which is provided '[a] sampling of the future that wasn't': things that have been predicted since day dot, but have somehow never materialized. The examples they give are: videophones; moon colonies; food in pills; cars that drive themselves; jet packs; and moving sidewalks. ... There are, after all, so many and varied things -- ranging from the very serious to the down-right silly -- that are predicted time and again, yet seem curiously absent in our daily lives. Examples: global catastrophies of the Armageddon kind (be they population overload, total environmental disasters, plagues, asteroids, or nuclear wars); a secure and bug-free Windows; the end of Madonna's singing career (her 'acting' career was, I believe, still-born)." So what are you waiting for?

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  1. If they could only.... by The-Bus · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm still waiting for Skittlebrau.

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    1. Re:If they could only.... by ender- · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Try some Sprite Remix. Not alcoholic, but otherwise qualifies as Skittlebrau to me.

  2. I'm waiting for by jetsfandb · · Score: 2

    3D TV!
    - Ralph Kramden

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    1. Re:I'm waiting for by rastos1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually not. Imagine you have to run around your 3D screen standing in the middle of your living room to get the right point of view ...
      No, I want a professional cameraman do it for me.

  3. Obvious by VirexEye · · Score: 3, Funny

    Team Fortress 2... And seemingly Half-life 2

  4. video phones? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have a 3G mobile video phone on my desk and it works, so that one can be struck off the list.

    1. Re:video phones? by jrumney · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I saw videophones working in about 1995. They were widely deployed throughout NTT and worked over ISDN lines. I don't know how many they've sold externally though.

    2. Re:video phones? by sql*kitten · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have a 3G mobile video phone on my desk and it works, so that one can be struck off the list.

      Indeed, and a self-parking car has just been announced in Japan.

      Truly these are great days we are living in!

    3. Re:video phones? by muirhead · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I have a 3G mobile video phone on my desk and it works, so that one can be struck off the list.

      When you can roam from Europe into the US and have your 3G video cell phone work, then it can be struck off my list.

    4. Re:video phones? by Monkey-Man2000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's because few really want them. The videophone seems like the next evolution of the telephone (nearly common-sense), but who wants to look at someone right after they got up in the morning (or in some other awkward position). I don't. . .

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    5. Re:video phones? by ^BR · · Score: 4, Funny

      Progress is always slower in the thirld world.

    6. Re:video phones? by torpor · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You mean, roam from anywhere else in the world, into the US ... not just specifically Europe.

      US is the only place that isn't capable. Not many other countries are going to have as hard a time going to 3G as the good ol' US of A.

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    7. Re:video phones? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      > Take a moving walkway for instance. The technology obviously exists, but have they been implemented anywhere, really?

      When was the last time you were at the airport?

      - etosin

    8. Re:video phones? by random_rabbit · · Score: 2, Funny
      Roam from Europe to the US?

      Are they even using digital yet?

      Just think, if they pry your gun from your cold, dead hand, you can just use those big horrible Motorola things as clubs. How's that for multi-function device?

    9. Re:video phones? by Troed · · Score: 5, Informative

      See the US vs half of South America - or why not the US vs Iraq -91. No country has bombed anywhere near the amount the US has since the 1940's.

      The US also holds an unprecedented amount of support for terrorists in favour of removing the people's elected governments and replacing them with dictators.

      Troll? Only in the eyes of ill-educated americans.

  5. Y2K by grungebox · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Remember Y2K? Me neither. Guess I'm still waiting for those missiles to accidentally launch.

    1. Re:Y2K by GigsVT · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's like saying because someone shot at you and missed, you were never in danger.

      It wasn't all hype. Inaction would have been costly.

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    2. Re:Y2K by jolshefsky · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Yeah, just like the power grid ... "Oh, the power grid is overloaded" ... "the system is an antique" ... "there will be blackouts in New York couple years like in California [in 2000.]"

      And look: we did nothing, and nothing went wrong. Think of all that time and effort we could have saved in 1999 by doing nothing about Y2K.

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    3. Re:Y2K by jimsum · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There was a Y2K problem. I spent an afternoon in 1997 fixing the one bug we had in our software.

      We couldn't fix the only serious problem we had; a batch of industrial PCs that we shipped to our customers before 1995 wouldn't work properly after the leap day of 2000. That is why you think there was no Y2K problem; most of the problems were minor and could be "fixed" by setting an incorrect date. Computers fail for many reasons, and most Y2K bugs were solved the same way as Windows bugs are solved; users and programmers found work-arounds.

      I really object to your characterization of programmers and designers as incompetent. I'll bet programmers are writing code right now that will fail during the non leap year of 2100; and you (or your preserved head in a jar :-) will be complaining that incompetent programmers didn't check for this when they wrote the code. Testing for events that are not going to occur for years or decades is usually not high on the list. As you've seen from the lack of a disaster, our software development techniques are good enough to cope with easily anticipated bugs.

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    4. Re:Y2K by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Crap. Just like in every other aspect of life, some people and organisations did the work and some didn't.

      Yes. The ones that did the work were the ones that had a reason to care. The ones that didn't were the ones that didn't. Amazing, huh? Or do you think the CTOs and engineers at these companies just said "Oh, USA Today says the world will end, we have to fix it!" No, the looked at their code, and what it was used for, and decided if they needed to do anything.

      "Some people and organisations" that did the work would be banks and power plants and missle silos. You know, the ones that USA Today told you would cause Armageddon but didn't because those people understood the problem and fixed it.

      "Some didn't" and those some were the ones that looked at their code and what it did and decided they didn't care. Most didn't care. The ones that did fixed it.

      If there was a real problem we would have seen the companies that were prepared sail through without a hitch and the others fail.

      I'm sure there were problems. But you probably didn't hear about Bob's Discount Fish Outlet's warehouse database automatically ordering an extra crate of herring because it thougt it had been 100 years since it had done so. Everything you would have heard about fell into either "don't care" or "fixed it".

      Nothing happened. It was pure hype.

      Something did happen. What happened is a lot of programmers around the world looked at the problem realisticaly, and fixed it where necessary. A lot of work went into making sure that on New Year's Day you could watch the rest of the world celebrate on CNN as Midnight treked around the world while checking your online bank teller to see your $12.36 sitting there safe and sound. That wasn't hype. That was engineers working hard to fix a problem. And while I had nothing personally to do with the situation, I dislike it when members of my profession kick ass at solving a real problem well enough that it doesn't affect you at all, and you call it "hype".

      Oh well. It's not as exciting as Armageddon, and there's no Steve Buscemi, but danger averted is still pretty cool in my book.

      P.S. No, there almost certainly wasn't going to be Armageddon in any serious way. No missles were going to launch just because the date changed. If they ever were in danger, you can bet those bastards checked it out well in advance. The media did blow it out of proportion, and quoted every engineer who said "there could be a problem; we have to look into it" as proof that we'd all die in nuclear blasts at 12:07am. So actually I blame them for your opinion. But you're still wrong! :)

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  6. Holographic TV please! by mrselfdestrukt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Proper holographic displays where the device will sit on your coffee-table or hang from your ceiling and the image will float in the middle of your oom and replace TV as we know it. That would be cool.
    At least we can be sure of some things.
    Suppose we're gonna see lots of crappy flying car jokes here on /. and russia jokes.Oh crap.

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    1. Re:Holographic TV please! by Quaryon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Suppose we're gonna see lots of crappy flying car jokes here on /. and russia jokes.Oh crap.

      In Soviet Russia, the car flies YOU!

      (Oh dear.. my first SR joke and what a bad one..)

      Q.

  7. Videophones by GothChip · · Score: 4, Informative

    So videophones never materialised? So what's this in my pocket?

    Video mobile phones are around and on sale in at least the UK and Australia. I've got the NEC e808 which is a bit big but does have a Qwerty keyboard. See www.three.co.uk for more info.

    1. Re:Videophones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      So videophones never materialised? So what's this in my pocket?

      No, you're just pleased to see me.

    2. Re:Videophones by kfg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Videophones have been available for decades. It's a pretty safe bet to predict something that's available off the shelf. Marketing does it all the time. You could even say it's their job.

      Weren't they just "predicting" that recorded media is a thing of the past?

      When they "predict" things like this it's a clear indication of the direction they're trying to push us in.

      In the case of videophones it's a direction that it turns out we weren't willing to be pushed in.

      Bottom line is that most of us don't want the damned things and wouldn't use them if they were given to us for free.

      KFG

  8. Video Phones by L-s-L69 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Dont know whether this is true of you lot over the pond but 3G phones, which in effect are mobile video phones have been around in the UK for a few months and in europe a bit longer. But ive got to agree with some of the above posters.....I want me flying car!!

  9. supposition. by mirko · · Score: 2, Insightful

    All of these assertions were based upon their immediate operationality.
    Now, for each of the civilization advances, we knew some drawbacks : every occidental now has (or could have) a car, but the level of pollution has grown to a serious level, hence the priority change.

    At this moment, most of these researches may have had their priorities lowered to face the consequences of the previous inventions...

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  10. It's a Long List by Ed+Almos · · Score: 2, Funny

    Flying cars, wristwatch videophones, people walking around in shiny plastic suits all the same design, the Starship Enterprise, site to site matter transportation, the end of money, the end of war, the end of disease ...................

    I'll settle for the flying car.

    Ed Almos

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    1. Re:It's a Long List by arth1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Not all predictions turned out exactly the way that speculative fiction envisioned them:

      - Sliding doors exist (mainly for elevators), but don't say "swwiiish" whenever they open and close.

      - The tricorder doesn't exist as such, but there's PDAs and mobile phones that can do much of the same, and much that the original tricorders couldn't do. Many of them even look like a tricorder, due to it being a practical design.

      - Computers speaking. Thankfully, they don't speak in a monotone tin-bucket voice. (The exception being my Asus motherboard BIOS, which tells me in a metallic semi-feminine voice "no CPU instarred" twice before booting.) Luckily too, we don't have thousands of computer voices speaking simultaneously from every cubicle. This most likely because the cubicle was never predicted.

      - Voice recognition. Unfortunately, we have that on too many phone services. If, like me, you have a voice that makes James Earl Jones sound like a puberty boy, they're not too helpful.

      - Stasis/hibernation. It exists, but if you want to time travel that way, only your sperm can go.

      - Jumpsuits. They exist, and presumably some people wear them, but I can't remember the last time I saw one in real life. Possibly due to the fact that most people still need to go to the bathroom every now and then, and there's no transporter that can take care of that need for us yet.

      - Designer drugs. Yes, we have them, but they're nowhere near as sophisticated or readily available as in speculative fiction. We also have the smokeless cigarettes, but it's not a plexiglass tube filled with crystals, nor do they make you zonk out.

      - Androids. Replacement bodyparts are common, but few if any of them are improvements on the originals.

      - Laser weapons. Sure, but they don't make Moog sounds when used, and are more useful for guidance than payload.

      - Universal nudism and free sex. What happened? After a short burst in the 60's, this one seems to have died... *sigh*

      Regards,
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    2. Re:It's a Long List by geekoid · · Score: 2, Funny

      "
      - Universal nudism and free sex. What happened? After a short burst in the 60's, this one seems to have died... *sigh*"

      After lokoing at my coworkers, I can only say.. Thank God.

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  11. Artificial Intelligence by Lord+Grey · · Score: 4, Funny

    Actually, I'm still waiting for some of the drivers on the local freeways to start exhibiting real intelligence.

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  12. Autodrive: denied. by Vindicator9000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I wouldn't buy a car that could drive itself unless that was all there was - I just like driving too much. I imagine they'll happen eventually, but I think that if it does, then amateur racing (like SCCA autocross and such) will become hugely popular for people who still love to drive. On a side note, I'm still waiting for the flying DeLorean with the Mr. Fusion machine. Aren't vidphones already here, or at least making their way into common usage?? I say give them a few years - seems like the tech is there, and its getting cheap enough.

  13. Smellovision by vbprisoner · · Score: 2, Insightful
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  14. Rejuv by beq · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Since the 1930s, effective anti-aging treatments (making us effectively immortal) have been predicted. So far, nothing. (Not that this would be a good thing for overpopulation but...)

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    1. Re:Rejuv by Angry+Toad · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Do a google news search for "resveratrol". This is some potentially huge news that got only a few writeups here and there a couple of weeks ago. They even posted a "Science" section story on Slashdot about it, but most people there seem to have largely missed what a big story it may actually be.

      Executive summary: Not only have some people at Harvard Medical School worked out how the caloric restriction effect works, they have demonstrated that in yeast, flies, and likely in mice a particular class of polyphenols (resveratrol being the most effective thus far) can be used to stimulate the same system in eukaryotes and extend lifespan some 30%.

      It works by engaging a stress response mechanism which appears to stabilize cells against aging damage in times of environmental stress - ie, you get more time to reproduce once the (mild!) famine is over and you haven't wasted your reproductive years just scrounging for food.

      Of course nobody has yet demonstrated that it will work in humans, but at this point there is no clear reason why it wouldn't work...

  15. I'm still waiting for my paperless office by Bogatyr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm still waiting for my paperless office. It hasn't happened yet: no matter how much I cut back, my coworkers always want to print repeated drafts of documents to review interim versions, print emails and notes for archiving where they can find them, and so on.

    1. Re:I'm still waiting for my paperless office by COLUG · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ummm yeah... You didn't put a cover sheet on your TPS report. Did you get a copy of that memo? See we are including new cover sheets on all of our TPS reports now. So if you could do that, it would be great.

      And I'll make sure you get another copy of that memo...

    2. Re:I'm still waiting for my paperless office by CrazyTalk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hmm where do you work? My office isn't exactly 100% paperless, but I'm lucky if I need to use the printer once a month. Code, documentation, presentations, memos are all stored and transmitted via computer, and never really need to be printed. On a related note, I visited some friends out of town recently (computer geeks all), and not one of them owned a printer at home, even though they had multiple computers. Just never had the need for a printer any more.

    3. Re:I'm still waiting for my paperless office by rkent · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's deeper than that. I started my own company a while back, just to do some programming consulting, and I had everything *I* needed in a "paperless office" suite of applications on my computer. However, the IRS still requires printed receipts and invoices, so I had to print everything anyway, even though it didn't do me any good in that format.

      Actually, I guess technically I didn't HAVE to, since I didn't get audited in 2002 (yet). But if I did, and had no paper trail... look out! So yeah, coworkers demanding paper are annoying, but the IRS demanding it is a serious problem.

  16. who says they aren't here yet? by *weasel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    food in pill form - well any moron could have told you that was pure science fiction - it's all a matter of density and quantity. we -could- do it, but you'd need a plate-full of pills.

    jetpacks - just like flying cars, it's primarily a safety issue. we have the tech - but no-one wants the cast of Friends crashing their hover-porsche into people's homes. on the ground there are trees, and curbs and bushes to slow them down when they leave the road. not so above.

    cars that drive themselves - well honda's already park themselves. darpa is holding an unmanned vehicle race through the desert - i can't imagine commercial applications will take too much longer.

    videophones - are already here. videoconference much? just because the consumers have decided that thus-far, the cost outweighs the benefit doesn't mean science is holding anything back.
    it's simply a matter of consumer adoption.

    moving sidewalks - already here - in malls, in airports. why aren't they in manhatten? because who pays for that? who benefits from a moving sidewalk downtown? when there's a business case for them, they exist. when it's left to the public sector, and there's no tangible benefit to outweigh the cost - the just don't exist.
    once again, a problem of business, not of science.

    plague - hello, HIV/AIDS, cancer ?

    now how about the things we have that we never thought to ask for?

    the internet, gps, multivitamins, the ISS, remote surgery, the genome map, cellphones, tazers, velcro, stain resistant dockers, nano-tube-spun ropes, teflon, sunscreen, moores law, p2p networks, etc?

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  17. Flying Cars by Detritus · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Flying cars are easy. Competent and safe drivers are hard. There are so many ways to kill yourself, and others, in a flying vehicle. Think of all the idiots and poorly maintained vehicles that you see on the road everyday.

    It might be popular to dis Madonna, but she has more singing and dancing talent than 99.999% of the people out there.

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    1. Re:Flying Cars by muirhead · · Score: 2, Funny
      In fact, I would go as far as saying i'd enjoy a trained monkey wearing underwear then Madonna.
      In many ways, I really think, you shouldn't go that far.

  18. Yogurt promised me... by Shamashmuddamiq · · Score: 5, Funny
    "Spaceballs 2: The Search for More Money"

    Still waiting.

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  19. Not much depth to the article... by fruey · · Score: 4, Interesting
    ...indeed that's probably why there was no need to link it.

    As for videophones, well general interactivity on the Internet took over from that really. People do much prefer to hide behind an electronic persona and too high a proportion of people don't like being in posed photographs, let alone on video. Those who do like it have webcams, and webcam conversations are in general between lovers and family. SciFi Movies still feature videophone communications though, although realtime one to one video communication may never really become popular to the point of replacing the telephone.

    As for jetpacks, moving sidewalks, moonbases and whatnot, I don't think a lot of people even believed those at the time. Better predictions are those which really do look at current trends and technology, seeing the barriers properly, and going for it.

    Like the Segway... what am I saying?

    I'll tell you why it isn't popular: the same reason motorbikes aren't mainstream popular. They are terrible to use in the rain, you can't give people a ride on them with you, they don't allow you to hide all but your head and shoulders, and they don't have a stereo. Simple.

    A truly, completely modern city might be somewhere to look to for futuristic ideas, but then Stevenage in the UK, for example, a concept city just outside London with cyclepaths all over the place, yet people don't all cycle, most still use cars. Because a car also comes in handy when you need to go hundreds of miles. Sadly the site doesn't mention the cyclepaths except in section 5.1.5 of some transport review. Notice how in section 5.1.2 their transport policy "focused on accomodating the car" in spite of their miles and miles of cycleways.

    I grew up near Stevenage, and it's not the idyll you might think, indeed it's a rather characterless place, bit too much of a concrete jungle, but the revolutionary ideas that went into the town planning were spoiled by poor fashions in architecture at the time, and ongoing council policy which did not match with the original town planners idealistic philosophies...

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  20. Utopias by Dan-DAFC · · Score: 4, Funny

    In a perfect world you wouldn't need a Utopia.

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  21. I'm still dying for... by youngerpants · · Score: 4, Funny

    Teleportation... please, I hate driving/ flying etc. Living in the UK, the roads are always jammed and the trains never run on time, and lets face it, were all a bit dubious about flying.

    It'll also be a faster method of getting my pizza to me before it gets cold

    1. Re:I'm still dying for... by richie2000 · · Score: 4, Funny
      Ah, teleportation. The main reason I'd like to own IBM. They do research on that, you know. If I owned IBM, I'd put much, much more resources into that particular field of research. Why, you ask?

      Simple, really.

      I'd have them make the sending station look like a podium and then launch the receiver into a stabile earth orbit. Next step would be to invite Bill Gates and a few other dignitaries to the great unveiling. "Yes, step up here, please, Mr. Gates." "Energize!" *Bzzzt* (Meanwhile, in the green room) "Mr. McBride, time. And please wake Mr. Ballmer up, he's next." Muahahaha, and so on.

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  22. Where's the rest? by ralphclark · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The article is a bit lacking in substance. There only seems to be a few short paragraphs, I can't find a continutation page. Was it really worth posting?

  23. But some of them are here by boogy+nightmare · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Gentlepersons,
    You will have to forgive the lack of links but did i not read just yesterday about a self parking car (does this qualify as driving), and there are cars in germany that can 'follow' the car in front so that you can take your hands off the wheel until you need to go some where different.

    Here in the UK (and most of EMEA) we already have video phones that are mobile phones with built in video camera for real time webcamesque transmissions, in the UK the provider is called 3 (for 3g i suppose) what it might be called elsewhere is another matter.

    just me couple of pennies worth

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  24. Re:where's my flying car? by Zzootnik · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Screw the flying car-
    Where's my Personal JetPack???

    There's a small group of people who own and operate the few remaining H2O2 Jetpacks from so long ago at that Olympics ceremony, but it seems like there really hasn't been anything else developed like that.

    I guess its time to get out the asbestos Jumpsuit and start experimenting with those little estes rocket motors... I wonder how many it would take to get me a darwin award?

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  25. Re:Moving sidewalks by register_ax · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I distinctly remember reading about this on slashdot, oh, in fact, here it is.

    I think what is paramount with new technology is the people's condition of willingness to try new things. Many hold the viewpoint, "why fix what isn't broken?" More specifically, why require people to adjust to something radically different for the sake of menial efficiency improvement?

    That is the viewpoint from them. It should be noted that I would break and sprain my foot a few times for the sake of new technology. It is the technologies that can be built from those primitive first few steps that is the real important factor. I think sacrifice isn't as popular since the Incas and Mayans all dispersed those years ago. ;)

  26. My tea by tansey · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm just waiting for this damn computer to get a cup of tea right!

  27. Reasons (speculation) by 91degrees · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Many of these are viable from a technology pooint of view. They just lack a market:

    VIDEOPHONES: People want to communicate more information more quickly. I get the feeling that the image of the person you're talking to simply isn't a piece of information people need.

    A MOON COLONY: Suffers from being slightly useless in itself, and only worthwhile as a means to an end. People don;t want to spend billions in setting on eof these up.

    FOOD IN PILLS: This simply isn't possible. You could have something like an energy bar or a thick shake of course. I guess people like eating proper food.

    CARS THAT DRIVE THEMSELVES: Technologically possible with a bit of R&D involved. I have seen a car that can drive along German autobahns, and overtake safely. The basic technology exists. Getting the things to obey all traffic rules is feasable. The thing is, where's the market? People do not want their cars to take over control. It's simply not safe for them to do say. Computers can't deal with the unexpected. I seriously doubt that legislators will allow cars to drive themselves without having someone qualified to drive behind the wheel. Since you have a driver, why bother with self driving?

    JET PACKS: I guess the 20 second flight time makes them too limitted to be a lot of use

    MOVING SIDEWALKS: Yeah, what is it with these? It can't cost a lot more to run and maintain than a light rail network or underground system. We only see travellators in airports.

  28. "the Future is Here by nounderscores · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...It just isn't evenly distributed yet" - William Gibson.

    It's true.
    we have flying cars. forget the moller skycar, the future is the xantus powered lift aircraft.

    we have jet packs, but now affordable backpack aircraft only nearly nobody wants to build them.

    I think some people can't handle the future. they're too afraid of getting smushed up by it.

  29. Re:Photophone != Videophone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    not 30fps but it is video, not photos. Streaming !=realtime btw.

  30. Re:where's my flying car? by EinarH · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Sorry, but the last thing I would want the general Joe Driver to have is a flying car.

    Have you any idea how many cars that stops on freeways/highways?
    Ever thought about the consequence of a car suddenly malfunctioning when you fly 1000ft above a residential neighborohood?

    When something goes bad in car traffic the worst thing that happens is that the car (and driver) is destroyed by the speed. If you are lucky the car stops and you call for backup. If you are 1000ft above ground level the speed and height will kill you with almost no exceptions.

    Do you realy want Old Aunt Jenny to crash into your house at 200mph just because she forgot to change the oil on her new Ford FreedomFlyer 2004?

    The only cases where its sound and economical to fly today are long distances togeheter with a bunch of other people to cut cost.

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  31. All I want... by Muad'Dave · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...is some sort of mechanism - 'bot, cyborg, whatever - that can handle all of the simple, silly, repetitive junk all of us have to do every day.
    • Cut the grass. Simple. Pre-programmable.
    • Empty the dishwasher. The same dishes go in the same cabinets every time.
    • Sweep the floor (ok, there's roomba).
    • Shovel snow.
    • Paint the walls/ceiling.
    • Wash the walls/ceiling.
    • Fold laundry.
    • Etc!!!
    Asimo, take me away!

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  32. Most of them have appeared by BuilderBob · · Score: 5, Informative

    videophones have been around for a while in the UK and in other countries(seems to be broken?). The quality still isn't brilliant but Orange(I think) have started to offer Soccer highlights over the latest phones.

    moon colonies, ok, we chose to put a space station up there first, and then realised it costs a lot of money for little (commercial or military) value. Moon colonies are sadly not as sexy as say a Mars colony, or even a Mars mission, which ESA has planned in 25 years, NASA tried and continues to test methods of producing enough food,air and water, other countries,notably India and China have planned Moon landings so we are going back. Space is unfortunately used as a pissing contest between nuclear neighbours, when this stops then some more science can get done(e.g. Hubble, Galileo, Beagle 2)

    food in pills. You can get food in pills, just not the calories, vitamins will give you nearly all of the trace elements you need to live. Calories are a lot harder, to get 500 Calories into a pill means eating something with 40 times the energy concentration of sugar or twenty times the concentration of fats, I doubt the human body would have much success digesting such complicated food. You can however get protein and creatine supplements which are in tablet/powder form, and sugar sweets( those silly energy sweets which taste of really sour orange) have more calories than their equivalent weight in sugar. (The protein supplements also tend to taste bad and are fed to animals instead. )

    cars that drive themselves; power steering has been around for a while, as has ABS and cruise control, that is about as much as the current laws will allow on the public roads. intelligent cars have been developed, which, when combined with other intelligent cars, are actually safe. It's the human drivers who freak out at the sight of a driverless car that's the problem :-)

    jet packs; Jet packs appeared in Thunderball (James Bond). You can buy them if you have enough money, or you can build them if you want. They're not used much because, much like the Segway, there are easier and cheaper way of getting around.

    moving sidewalk's are in most airports now, as well as some metro stations. There have also been "moving stairs" around for just as long.

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  33. not a /. bug by karel1980 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's not a bug, it 's a feature!
    Slashcode breaks up long words (like urls) to prevent trolls from using very long lines of text and stretching the page-width beyond reasonable proportions.

  34. Jetpacks aren't going to work... by Goonie · · Score: 2, Informative
    You simply can't carry enough chemical fuel to make a jetpack practical, no matter how hard you try.

    Lifting surfaces of some kind are the only practical method of getting human-scale flight of a decent range - at least until we invent Mr. Fusion :)

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  35. Functional food isn't fun by YetAnotherName · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe it'll be possible some day to pack a major amount of calories and various proteins into a convenient pill form, but I really can't see have much application beyond, say, the military.

    Food is supposed to be a sensual experience, part of the feedback system that ensures we eat. Sure, there are some people out there who just eat to live, but we're pre-programmed to find eating pleasurable, from the sight of a perfectly grilled steak, its brown crust glistening under a sprinkling of whole peppercorns, to the scents of exotic vanilla beans wafting up from a mound of cold, soft ice cream, to the texture of crusty, rustic bread, hand-ripped from a lovely brown loaf dusted with cornmeal, to the taste of warm, moist, yielding carrots, drizzled in honey and butter, to ... to ...

    I need to change my shorts. Back soon.

  36. Um, the big one? by Rogerborg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    An economy not entirely dependent on oil? Depending on who you ask - and, oh boy, does it depend - we've already passed the global midpoint where we're using it up faster than we can possibly find it.

    No, I'm not screaming that we're going to run dry in ten years, I'm saying that oil prices are only going one way, and that it's a risky strategy to rely on a supply of new oil from Arab countries.

    How about just for once we plan further ahead than the next election and begin the wholesale switch to renewable energy sources now? We put man on the moon in under eight years from declaring it. If we had eight years warning, could we we build and drive a vehicle through every mainland US state without using a drop of oil, directly or indirectly? Oh, sure we could, we'd just use solar. And, uh, no plastics. And, um, build it in a plant powered by wind turbines. And ship the parts by, uh, yuh, we'll come back to that one. And our factory workers will use geothermal power to heat their homes, and they'll, erm, cycle to work. You see how it goes? Sure, in theory we could do it, and sooner or later, we'll have to. Are we going to wait until the last possible moment to put that theory to the test?

    Oil is a one off bonanza in human history. We should be investing that wealth in our childrens' future, not blowing it on wide screen TVs and leaving them to clean up the mess.

    While I'm ranting, sooner or later China is going to get rich enough to support an unhealthy population of lawyers, and then we can forget shipping our toxic garbage there to be melted down. Again, we can keep building the tire mountains and circuit board cities higher and higher and leave our kids to work out what to do with them. I just hope they're not such selfish short sighted bastards when it comes to looking after us in our collective old age.

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    1. Re:Um, the big one? by phillyclaude · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why arent we? Because there's a lot of people at (Exxon|Mobil|Citgo|Hess|etc) with very deep pockets, and ungodly amounts of money invested in pulling oil out of the ground.

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    2. Re:Um, the big one? by TheSync · · Score: 2, Informative

      Gasoline prices at the pump in the US are actually below all-time highs. You can read more about the details here.

      In a nutshell, today's US gasoline pump price, in inflation-adjusted dollars, is as cheap as it was in 1986, and cheaper than it ever was before 1969. And when you consider that gasoline taxes have been raised continuously over the years (now to $0.43 per gallon), gasoline itself seems very cheap.

      If you want to look at inflation-adjusted crude oil prices, look at this. More recent crude oil prices ($27-$30 / barrel) are up a bit above the hundred-year median price, but still below the highs of the late 70's/early 80's.

      Crude oil cost makes up about 40% of gasoline prices, manufacturing and distribution makes up 37%, the rest is taxes.

      Should oil prices ever rise, I would expect that plastics would be made with biotechnology, indeed there could be a carbohydrate economy using biotech enzymes to convert cellulose to sugar and then to ethanol.

  37. Micro Media by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 2, Insightful
    With the proliferation of the Internet, we should be seeing a lot of smaller news sources develop to cover fringe and/or local interests. Aside from tech, this really hasn't happened.

    What we do have are huge conglomerations, or some moron ranting on his blog. There really isn't a whole lot in between.

    Philadelphia has 2 newspapers. One reads like an AP and Reuters news feed. The other borders on tabloid. It doesn't help that both are owned by Knight Ridder, the same folks who run USA Today. The little free weekly that someone in our neighborhood puts together has a lot more useful information in it.

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  38. Electric sports car by Phreakiture · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I want one of these.

    Three years ago, they matched a prototype of this car against a Ferarri, a Corvette, a Miata and a Porche Carerra on a 1/8 mile drag strip. It beat, by 7 lengths, all of these except the Miata. The only reason the Miata won was because the driver of the T-Zero forgot to disengage the hand brake.

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  39. Still waiting for by mbourgon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    e-Paper. I remember reading an article in 1995 or so, about the MIT Media Lab e-Ink/e-Paper project, and how it would be out in "2 to 3 years". It's now 2003, and electronic paper is still 2 to 3 years away.

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  40. Just one thing ... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 2, Interesting

    H.A.L. Arthur C. Clarke's original timeline called for H.A.L. to have been first brought online in 1996. He later admitted that he was a bit too optimistic.

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  41. Duke Nukem Forever! by why-is-it · · Score: 4, Funny

    Team Fortress 2... And seemingly Half-life 2

    Don't forget Nuke Nukem Forever - which is the time it will take to develop and not the working title as many people mistakenly assume...

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  42. Food pills by jc42 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The "food pill" concept does have a fundamental physical limitation. By "food" we usually mean things like proteins and carbohydrates, not things like vitamins, and "pill" usually means something rather small
    that can be swallowed with one gulp.

    Our daily requirement of protein and carbohydrate is on the order of hundreds of grams. To get 100 grams of carbos, you need at least 100 grams of material, and typically a bit more (unless you're gulping down pure sugar). This would be well beyond the size range of what we would usually call a "pill".

    You can put things like vitamins and a few "supplement" materials in pill form, because we only need those in sub-gram amounts. But you're not going to put significant amounts of amino acids or sugars into a pill, not in the quantities that we need them. The universe just doesn't work that way.

    Also, we need a significant amount of water per day. Our biochemistry only works in a water medium. If you could reduce the proteins and carbos to a digestible but waterless form for less bulk, you'd just have to consume the water some other way. You might as well leave the water mixed with the proteins and carbos and consume them together. It's a lot more satisfying to the palate than downing pills and drinking large quantities of water.

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  43. Confusing Science vs. Engineering vs. Adoption by G4from128k · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Articles like these always confuse the role of science in society -- anything futuristic or techie is lumped under the rubric of science. Yet science really has so little to do with any of this. Scientists discover the laws, engineers develop products that make use of the laws, and businesses/governments/consumers invest in those products to adopt the fruits of the laws.

    Science was done with the laws that underpin videophones, moving sidewalks, and fly cars several decades ago -- how many articles on flying cars make it into scholarly science journals these days? Engineers have been using those laws to make prototypes of the products or (more importantly) low cost approaches to manufacturing and deploying these products for quite a while.

    Its the people that invest and adopt that hold up most "scientific" inventions long after science to done with the topic. Until the product is cheap enough and perceived as useful enough, all the science and engineering in the world is irrelevant. This is where marketing to cosnumers or lobbying to governments comes into play.

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  44. Re:video phones = stupid for day to day use. by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I agree. That's the biggest problem with so called "innovations"... they don't help you do anything better. How does seeing someone increase the effiency of using a telephone? Now, it makes sense if your loved one is being needlessly deployed in some third world country because your current president is a nitwit. Then it makes sense that you want to see the person. However, if your just calling your wife to ask her if she needs you to pick anything up from the store, there's no point in a video phone. As for the flying car, they'll happen eventually, just not in the US. This is the reason why. Currently, if I went out and bought a single engine piper cub and popped open the engine cowling, do you know what I'd find... dynamos. Now, there are companies that make electroic ignition systems for airplanes, but because of the current rules, you can only use them if you declare your plane an experimental. However, after thousands and thousands of hours of people flying on electronic ignition, the FAA still isn't convinced it's safe. Now just imagine what some poor bastard would have to go through to even get the FAA to look at a flying car. For it to be even practical to the general public, it would have to have an obsurdly computer controlled, fly by computer control system that would prevent the thousands of possible knuckleheaded things a person could do in a flying car, otherwise, it wouldn't be flying car, it would be a flying plane. Your average person can just barely sort out drivers ed. Just imagine your crazy cubemate behind the stick of a flying car. Yeah, that would be frightening.

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  45. Re:Photophone != Videophone by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 2, Insightful

    and what, pray tell, is so special about the number 30?

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  46. what the... by slim+hades · · Score: 2, Funny

    "(Playmate Baby Bright Eyes) has azure blue oversize eyes that blink, sweep the room and interact with your child. " If "interact" means to incude nightmares of epic proportions and cause damage a pyschiatrist and a priest couldn't undo, than sign me up. Hell, I don't even have children, I just want a good reason to keep them away.

  47. Re:Food pills too. by TopShelf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think the power-bar comes somewhat close to the "food pill" idea, packing a load of calories and supplements into a quick and easy-to-use form. Now if only they could get the taste part down, so as you wolf down a bar, it tastes like pot roast and mashed potatoes or something...

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  48. I don't know by Darth_brooks · · Score: 4, Funny
    i don't know what's always next......

    ....but Slashdot subscribers can see it now.

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  49. Re:Photophone != Videophone by Christopher+Bibbs · · Score: 2, Informative

    30 full frames per second produces a visual roughly equivalent to 60 half-frames per second of NTSC.

  50. Re:...global catastrophies of the Armageddon kind by JazzManDRP · · Score: 3, Funny

    .... And I'm so full of conviction I daren't even put my name to the post.

  51. Re:Photophone != Videophone by SlamMan · · Score: 3, Funny

    My VCR doesn't even do 30 fps! 29.97, now thats where its at.

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  52. China and India by caitsith01 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Very prescient comments about China. I think the dark horse in terms of countries unexpectedly upsetting our western fat cat society has got to be India, however. China will get there sooner than most people expect, but India is within a few years of seriously kicking our rumps. Just look at those software jobs flying off to the subcontinent...

    Basically, we are in very big trouble, because the mathematics of having a billion Indians and a billion Chinese means that they need a much lower percentage of educated people in their countries to have a vastly larger actual number of educated people. If China or India can achieve a 10% university education rate, that's 200 million well educated Chinese and Indians - the equivalent of every person in the US having such a degree. There is a lot of complacence, because we look at those countries and see a high poverty rate, unemployment, lots of people living in poor conditions... but they are both nations on the rise and because of their immense sizes they will be hugely powerful before we know it.

    Right now we can see this with IT jobs going to India... but how soon until there are hordes of Chinese accountants? Indian engineers? One only has to look at the speed with which the high-tech industry took off in SE Asia, where most of the manufacturing is still done, to see how quickly such sectors could be taken overseas with great speed. We won't just be wearing shirts made in China, our knowledge work will be done there too. Unfortunately we won't be able to afford any of it because we will all be unemployed.

    IMHO you are absolutely correct in your assertion that we should be moving now, with great rapidity, to build a new set of ideals for our societies. We need to really migrate from the industrial, oil-swilling, third-world-will-pick-up-the-pieces mentality to an information age, high-tech, renewable, sustainable future. We have all the technology, we just need to put it into practice. If we don't, the west will become a hideous, decayed place full of social problems and memories of the era when we ruled the world.

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  53. Finglonger by Hatta · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ah, so that's what life would be like had I invented the Finglonger. sigh.

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  54. Re:Food pills too. by mmaddox · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...and for dessert....here it comes....blueberry pie!

    Thanks, Violet. :)

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  55. Re:where's my flying car? by ptomblin · · Score: 4, Informative

    Private aircraft have to submit flight plans so the FAA will know where they are at any given moment

    Sorry, but that's utter bullshit. I can get in my plane here in Rochester NY, and besides talking to the control tower and departure controller until I'm 10 miles away from the airport, I could fly all the way to the Pacific Ocean without telling anybody where I am going or even turning on my radio.

    The difference between flying and driving is that pilots actually have to demonstrate some skill and judgement in order to get and keep their licenses. There are bad pilots, but nowhere near as high a percentage as there are bad drivers.

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  56. I can't swallow that! by Hatta · · Score: 5, Funny

    Good news! It's a suppository.

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  57. Reasonability by virg_mattes · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > Well, I'll stick to my point. We can do this now. So, why aren't we? Why are we going to suck oil until we go blue in the face and leave nothing in reserve?

    The obvious answer is that it's cheaper than the alternatives. It's not really rational to expect that we'll stop using a resource that's available now, with an already-exisiting distribution infrastructure, for no reason other than that we need to stretch it out over some indeterminate length of time in the future.

    > I'm thinking of my kids, but longer term, we're due another ice age real soon now. Failing that, god will drop a rock on us sooner or later. Our descendants are going to have to bootstrap themselves from wood burning stoves to nuclear power. Good luck to them.

    What? Why would you think that they'd have to do this? By the time that next ice age rolls around, or the big rock falls, how can you know what we'll use for energy? Besides, why would they progress from wood to nuclear power at all? I can personally think of several options better than that, and I can't predict the future any better than you. You seem to think that we need to move away from fossil fuels right away, and I don't see anything in your argument to explain why. Yes, they're running out, but what's the point to having a huge world reserve of oil by moving away from oil entirely? Doesn't that defeat the use of having the reserves, if nothing you do requires that reserve? As the supply gets harder to provide, the price will rise, and when it rises high enough, we'll move to a different source of energy. Expecting the human race to do anything else is irrationally Utopian.

    Virg

  58. Re:prediction by Hatta · · Score: 2, Funny

    Three shells... WTF?

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  59. Re:where's my flying car? by geekoid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    do you really thi8nk that engineers wouldn't consider these issues?

    Don't be dense. When people say 'I want my flying car' it is implied that they want it to be safe. Thats really the interesting technology anyways, making it safe.

    When I say 'I want my flying car' I'm not thinking Fixed wing carcraft. I'm thinking ala 'Fifth element'. minus the anoyying automated ticket giver.

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  60. Wine by QuackQuack · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wine 1.0

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  61. paperless office by geekoid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The paperless off is nearly achievable right now. I say nearly because stick notes are so damn usefull.
    However it is a social issue, not a technology one. Any company that puts iyts mind to it in a serious way, could reduce paperwork by 50%, easy.

    I think if the person who is in charge of supplies had the power to say, "You are not allowed to print emails" would be a good use of empowerment. espcially if they got a bonus tied to cost savings.

    I worked with a team of 10 people and we all committed to a 'less paper' office. We never had any hard paperwork with anything that was involved within the group. It was all digital, which was a pain in the ass sometime, but we got over the hurdles. there were 2 problems.
    1)other group or departments always wanted us to print stuff, but we would only send electronic forms.'
    2)stick notes are so damn usefull.

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  62. Re:FLAMEBAIT by metamatic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It'll be flamebait when the US has a healthcare system like every civilized first-world country.

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  63. Star Trek predicted interfaces, not tech details by peter303 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The whole point of the orignal Star Trek was not to predict the details of future technology. They just presumed that human-machine interfaces would have become convenient. For example a talking computer is much more convenient than typing for the masses of humanity. Star Trek devices were named after the generic action they preformed, e.g. "transport", "communicate", "scan", etc. rather than some technology (3G) or commercial brand name (Xbox).

  64. Re:where's my flying car? by rthille · · Score: 3, Funny

    ala 'Fifth element'. minus the anoyying automated ticket giver.
    Yeah, but with the half naked Milla Jojovich in the back seat!

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  65. Population by satyap · · Score: 2

    Population problem is here now.

  66. Re:Photophone != Videophone by Nexus+Seven · · Score: 2, Informative

    Film is projected at 24 fps (although each frame is projected twice to improve the light levels).

    In the USA, Canada and a few other countries, TV is 29.97 two-field frames per second, or 50.94 field per second (NTSC).

    In the rest of the world, TV is 25 two-field frames per second, or 50 fields per second (PAL).

  67. Re:video phones = stupid for day to day use. by bigpat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Your average person can just barely sort out drivers ed. Just imagine your crazy cubemate behind the stick of a flying car. Yeah, that would be frightening."

    Just need stronger roofs. Buildings have all sorts of defenses against errant cars. Look at government buildings with their setbacks and concrete barriers. Even civilian buildings have some barriers to prevent accidents. If larger numbers of people had flying machines, then we would just see the equivalent vertical barriers being put into place to protect property on the ground.

    I've not seen a good comparison between flying safety and car safety made, but tens of thousands of people die in car crashes each year, while well under a thousand people die in light aircraft per year. So, the question really becomes one of risk and perception. It is clear that no major relaxation of flying rules will be allowed as long as people view aircraft as terrorist weapons or just an object of the liesure class. But light aircraft are far less dangerous as a weapon than a car, since they can't carry very much weight. And light aircraft are reserved to the liesure classes primarily because the required training is very expensive. That the actual aircraft is expensive is only because of the low volume and the certification requirements. A car by comparison would be much more expensive than an aircraft if it needed to go through the same legal process and was produced in as low a volume.

    All that said aircraft won't be practical as "flying cars" until they are made to be end-to-end forms of transportation, but here also new regulations would be required to allow machines like the "Skycar" to land in residential and business areas legally. But the discussion has been so corrupted by irrational fear rather than practical concerns, that no one will be allowed to do much more than jump off the ground without fifty years of development and hundreds of billions of dollars spent on systems of control to make us perfectly "safe" even when it should be clear to any thinking person that to accept the risk and allow flying "cars" to take off without such onerous and impractical rules as are now proposed would be another economic revolution akin to the development of the Model T.

    Here I don't think the effects of practical personal end-to-end air transportation could be exagerated. Openning up vaste areas of land to economic development. Substantially reducing resources spent on transportation infrastructure. Indeed, space is more than just an abstract contruct, we need it to prosper, and as we reach certain density as population grows it is hard to imagine greater economic growth without openning up the skies to transportation and commerce. Free skies mean prosperity.

  68. Re:video phones = not so stupid by Jafafa+Hots · · Score: 2, Funny

    Great. I don't call my mom anywhere near as much as she'd like as it is.

    Now I'll have to wait 15 minutes every time I DO call for her to "put on my face."

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  69. Don't forget Fossil Fuels by TufelKinder · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The end of our oil supply is near!

    (Reality: if we're using up our oil, why aren't reserves decreasing?)

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  70. Re:Photophone != Videophone by Christopher+Bibbs · · Score: 2, Informative

    I wasn't constraining, I was setting a minimum. 30fps seems to be a reasonable minimum goal for streaming, real-time video. Plus, so much equipment in North America already works at this rate, it seemed like an obvious first step. Of course, given the most obvious source and demand for videophones, I guess the PAL format would be more logical.

  71. sorry, but no. by K. · · Score: 3, Funny

    The rest of the world doesn't need drug development that focuses on losing weight without exercise and maintaining an erection for more than 30 seconds without a ruler and gaffer tape.

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  72. What I've noticed... by gone.fishing · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Over the years we have had many new things come and go. It seems to me that the ones that stick around are the ones that are more productive in nature. The CB radio didn't exactly stick around but the cel-phone has. The digital watch is okay but it sure hasn't replaced the analog watch. The 8-track tape lost out to the cassette and VHS beat Beta-max (still don't quite understand that). Technologies have changed and replaced other things that seemed that they would be around forever, the LP is all but gone, replaced by the CD.

    For new tech to work, the consumer seems to need to see an obvious benefit but the manufacturer has to see an obvious profit. Without buy-in from both sides, a new tech will not fly. It is pretty simple. In some cases, the manufacturers have enough clout to throw a technology down our throats. This pretty much happened with the CD.

    Another thing that I have noticed is that a lot of what they said would free us has acted more as a chain. The cel phone and pager are two obvious examples. I can no longer really get away from work and I can not get away from my personal things either. There is no such thing as getting away anymore. Sure it is nice bing available but I have been called into work while I was in the boat fishing. I've been camping and had my mother-in-law call me with computer questions. In the eveing at home, I can pull out the laptop and do some work... We no longer have the clear work/home family/profession lines that used to divide our time and responsibilities. This has the effect of attaching us rather than freeing us.

  73. Re:Photophone != Videophone by shamino0 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I don't consider those to be video phones. Perhaps there are some more compact setups, but the ones I've used have multiple large screen TVs, remote controlled cameras...

    There are some compact video conference systems out there. For example, the Polycom ViewStation is a very compact unit containing the computer and camera. Attach to any TV you like to complete the package.

    At work, we use these over our corporate LAN. They also work over ISDN. (Ordinary phone lines don't have enough bandwidth, unfortunately.)

    They're not what I'd consider consumer devices, since they're a bit expensive, but they're available and seem to be popular in corporate environments.

  74. Re:Photophone != Videophone by shamino0 · · Score: 2, Informative
    In the USA, Canada and a few other countries, TV is 29.97 two-field frames per second, or 50.94 field per second (NTSC).

    For color. For black-and-white, it's 30 frames (or 60 fields). When color was invented, they had a design goal of keeping it backward-compatible with B&W, which meant they couldn't increase the bandwidth of the signal. So they made a slight reduction in the frame rate in order to make room for the colorburst signal.

    Unfortunately, this screwball frame rate causes real problems when you convert film to color video. Instead of simply duplicating every 4th frame (to expand 24 fps into 30fps) you have to add an extra rule to not duplicate every 1000th frame.

    If you're converting a B&W movie, you have to know if the resulting video will be on a color carrier (with a colorburst signal) or on a B&W carrier (without the colorburst signal). You need to know whether or not to include the "don't duplicate every 1000th frame" rule. If you pick the wrong one, the the audio will drift out of sync from the video.

    Does anyone know if HDTV still has this nonsense? Or does it use a nice round number (like 24, 25 or 30fps) for everything?

  75. Fears? by WatertonMan · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Examples: global catastrophies of the Armageddon kind (be they population overload, total environmental disasters, plagues, asteroids, or nuclear wars); a secure and bug-free Windows; the end of Madonna's singing career (her 'acting' career was, I believe, still-born)

    While there is something to be said for the above, one must also point out that some of those fears were justified.

    While overpopulation of the world didn't happen, it didn't happen in part due to everyone controlling the number of children they had when they got rich. In places of poverty overpopulation was a reality. At it did have dire consequences. One might say that nature is compensating with various plagues (i.e. HIV) and starvation/war (i.e. Somalia/Ethiopia). But anyone with a portion of humanity would be horrified at that strong of a social Darwinist approach to human populations.

    Nuclear war was a real threat and it really was a miracle it never happened -- although with terrorists and the nature of the technology of bio-weapons and nuclear weapons, it will remain a threat to humanity until we start having off-planet colonies.

    A secure and bug free windows? Well there is OSX or Linux. They have Windows. (grin)

    I think that global warming is still to be reckoned with. While I'm not convinced regarding the degree technology causes it the phenomena itself is real. Glaciers are rapidly melting and I think we're starting to see weather changes. If something happens with say the gulf current be prepared for major problems in the world.