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Workweek Causes Climate Changes

Shipud writes "An article in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences reports that daily temperature ranges are smaller on weekdays than on weekends. This phenomenon is strongest in the US, but also appears in China and Japan. The researchers attribute this to human activity, although the exact mechanism is unclear. The prime suspect is aerosol / cloud interactions. Here is the more legible version from Scientific American"

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  1. Welp.. people drive more during the week... by NivenHuH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... and that definitely contributes to more pollution being in the air which will definitely have an effect on temperatures.. I don't know what's being "discovered" here..

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    1. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by SirSlud · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Lots of 'discoveries' should be read as 'confirmations'. You wouldn't want to build the foundation of science and technological progression on assumptions, would you?

      Mind you, of course that happens, but I always think this way when people say 'duh'. Remember, at some point, somebody would have said 'duh' had you concluded that the earth was the centre of the universe. ;)
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    2. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by twoslice · · Score: 1, Funny
      The prime suspect is aerosol / cloud interactions.

      No, actually I think it means that we just stink more on the weekend cause we don't use deodorant...

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    3. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      When it comes to global warming, everyone seems to assume it's pollutants.

      What about the heat that's released as a result of combustion? Also, remember that for cars in traffic, most of the energy that made your car go gets turned into heat when you hit the brakes....

    4. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by rrkap · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ... and that definitely contributes to more pollution being in the air which will definitely have an effect on temperatures.. I don't know what's being "discovered" here..

      Then you're remarkably uncurious or ignorant. What's the mechanism? Why is it different in coastal cities than inland ones? This is an interesting and localized (both in time and in space) effect of human activity. I don't really have a good guess as to what is causing it. You can't just say air pollution without examing the mechanism. It could be something really off the wall like change in averge absorptivity of the ground because all the parking lots are full.

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    5. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by umofomia · · Score: 2, Insightful
      ... and that definitely contributes to more pollution being in the air which will definitely have an effect on temperatures.. I don't know what's being "discovered" here..
      This may seem obvious to many of us, although there are some people out there that absolutely refuse to believe that humans can have any noticeable effect on the environment. To see this, just read any of the literature out there claiming that global warming does not exist. (Note: I am not saying that this study shows that global warming is definitively caused by humans, although this does provide evidence that humans can have some effect on the environment.)
    6. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
      Remember, at some point, somebody would have said 'duh' had you concluded that the earth was the centre of the universe.

      Actually, many scientists believe that the earth is at the center of the universe. When you look at the cosmic background microwave radiation, it looks remarkably uniform in every direction. The deep-field pictures that the HST took further confirm that matter is evenly distributed in all directions. This would not be possible if the earth weren't right smack in the middle, since more light would be eminating from one direction than the others.

      Scientists don't like to say that the earth is in the center of the universe, however, since it sounds very Ptolemaic. As a scientist nowadays, the fashionable approach is to consider oneself and one's situation as meager and uninteresting as possible. In this vein you can conclude that, in an infinite universe, every point is the center. However, while we don't know whether spacetime itself is infinite, we sure as hell know that matter isn't - otherwise it would be light-as-day during the night (which it isn't)! So, scientists who fancy the universe-is-infinite approach to avoid placing the earth at the center is just fooling himself.

    7. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by cyt0plas · · Score: 2, Insightful

      > Lots of 'discoveries' should be read as 'confirmations'.

      But then what would the media use for sensationalist stories? After all, _somebody_ has probably figured it out already, the rest of us just haven't caught on yet.

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    8. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 2, Funny

      Scientists don't like to say that the earth is in the center of the universe, however, since it sounds very Ptolemaic. As a scientist nowadays, the fashionable approach is to consider oneself and one's situation as meager and uninteresting as possible. In this vein you can conclude that, in an infinite universe, every point is the center. However, while we don't know whether spacetime itself is infinite, we sure as hell know that matter isn't - otherwise it would be light-as-day during the night (which it isn't)! So, scientists who fancy the universe-is-infinite approach to avoid placing the earth at the center is just fooling himself.
      In other news, another AC got stoned for the first time today.

    9. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by im2xlt · · Score: 1

      ...there are some people out there that absolutely refuse to believe that humans can have any noticeable effect on the environment.
      That is Rush Limbaugh's stance.

    10. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by fucksl4shd0t · · Score: 1

      No, actually I think it means that we just stink more on the weekend cause we don't use deodorant...

      Actually, I interpreted that as "we use more deodorant during the work week which is why the temperatures go up. Stop using deodorant, end global warming!"

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    11. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention how much heat the asphalt absorbs during the day.

    12. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by ctr2sprt · · Score: 3, Insightful
      It probably seems intuitive to you, and that's the problem. Lots of intuitive things just aren't true, because usually your guesses are based on incomplete or simply incorrect information. That's why it's important for scientists to prove their theories instead of just accepting them blindly.

      I, for one, find it encouraging that scientists are out there finding supporting evidence for the predominant theories. Contrary to what many Slashdot posters seem to think, our understanding of the global (and local!) environment is far from complete. It's even less of an exact science than psychiatry is. ("For some reason, doing this causes something to happen. We have no idea why, we're not entirely sure what happens, and sometimes something completely unexpected happens instead, but at least it gives us some measure of control.") That's why findings like this are important: it's predicted by an extremely shaky theory, so it's one more piece of evidence that our theory is right, and what we think is happening actually is.

    13. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by Radical+Rad · · Score: 1
      Lots of 'discoveries' should be read as 'confirmations'. You wouldn't want to build the foundation of science and technological progression on assumptions, would you?

      Since it has already been reported that rainfall fluctuates with the day of week and that fluctuation was theorized to be due to pollutants from workday traffic, this discovery does seem to be mostly a confirmation. However, we wouldn't want to assume, would we? Therefore I propose that I be given a fat government grant to study whether humidity also varies based on weekday. And let me assure the Bush administration in advance that I would never make fanciful claims of anthropogenic origin without many years of further study to gather all the facts. hint hint.

    14. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by John+Miles · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, many scientists believe that the earth is at the center of the universe

      Actually, not.

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    15. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by Bull999999 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Earth may not be center of the universe as in beer, but it is the center of the universe as in freedom.

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    16. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by Mooncaller · · Score: 3, Informative
      You wouldn't want to build the foundation of science and technological progression on assumptions, would you?

      Umm, math and science ARE built upon assumptions. They are called Axioms. Goedel: Any formal system must be based on theroms not provable by that system.

    17. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 1

      Well, Rush should know that the real cause is the Hot Air that is contained inside buildings during weekdays. You would think he would notice that during his shows.

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    18. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by Smidge204 · · Score: 1

      I use a stick anti-persperant. :)

      =Smidge=

    19. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's it, you've convinced me. I'm having my car's brakes removed tomorrow. "For the Children"

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    20. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by jfern · · Score: 1, Insightful

      What's being "discovered" is that the Bush adminstration was wrong. We are causing global warming. Of course, the Bush administration is also wrong on nearly everything else, but that's not my point.

    21. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by glitch! · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It probably seems intuitive to you, and that's the problem. Lots of intuitive things just aren't true, because usually your guesses are based on incomplete or simply incorrect information. That's why it's important for scientists to prove their theories instead of just accepting them blindly.

      That's a very good point. For instance, it is "obvious" that plastic cutting boards are better than wood, right? Well, actually no...

      Here is just one interesting comparison of cutting boards.

      Sometimes you just have to set aside your assumptions and find out.

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    22. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by SirSlud · · Score: 1

      Not: Any formal system must be based on all theroms.

      IE, something that is provable should be proved. To be safe. Of course, the axioms can't be proved, but this is hardly an axiomatic case.

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    23. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about the heat that's released as a result of combustion? It simply radiate away from the earth's surface and out towards space ... um, no wait it can't! Those damn pollutants are in the way!

    24. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by NoisyParker · · Score: 1

      That is Rush Limbaugh's stance.

      Thanks for keeping us posted. I realize that there are many who would say, "If I cared about his opinion I'd already be listening to his show, thanks." or "Gee... and what is Clark Howard's stance?", but I, for one, am glad to be informed of what you think the positions of various talk show hosts might be. Please be sure to post to the XFce Desktop 4 Released discussion to let us know Rush Limbaugh's stance on that, as well.

    25. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by Wolfrider · · Score: 1

      --Thanks for the link, +1 Educational. I didn't believe you at first until reading the article.

      --One of those "Everybody knows..." things I guess.

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    26. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spot on. Also, one important result of this research is that now they have measured the size of the effect. Scientists may have concluded that such an effect was likely, they may even have models that would predict it, but now they have gathered hard data on just how much variation there is between weekdays and weekends. This data can then be used to finetune weather models, and even to discover/confirm/measure new phenomena. Seminal breakthroughs get a lot more press, but science is built on this kind of mundane research.

    27. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by Kynde · · Score: 1

      Also, remember that for cars in traffic, most of the energy that made your car go gets turned into heat when you hit the brakes....

      Well, not quite. Most of the energy that made your car go goes out through the exhaust pipe as heat. The compression rate of the combustion engine defines an upper limit for attainable efficiency for turning heat energy into kinetic energy. For moderns cars I recall it's somewhere around 20% or so, could be a tad higher. On top of that comes all practical lackings, like heat leakage through the metal, friction and all thtat.

      What you meant with brakes is probably that with a combustion car the braking indeed sucks away your kinetic energy (and yes, into heat), but why it's uneconomic is because it practically means you have to reaccelerate after that, which takes and releases loads more heat than your brake plates.

      Notice that this does not hold for an electric vehicle which have near 1 efficiency when it comes to convertic electric (well chemical to be a tad more accurate) energy into kinetic energy, and on top that the ones I've dealt with also perform recharging upon breaking simply using the engine in reverse.

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    28. Re:Welp.. people drive more during the week... by TooManyNames · · Score: 1
      What amazes me is that, although this discussion has sparked a lot of comments on assumptions and theorizing, you seem to blatantly ignore them with this whole Bush sux and that's that attitude. However, before assuming that I'm some crazy republican I would like to say that I'm not trying to side with Bush, I'm just trying to explain the problem that I have with your statement.

      I happen to believe that global warming is a reality that has a direct relation to human activity. I believe that findings such as the ones discussed here support the general theory as a whole. However, this is not a proof for global warming; it is basically proof of a short and localized environmental alteration. It appears to me that this evidence, along with other findings, makes the rejection of global warming look stupid. However, that is just my point of view and not some infallible fact. Global warming could simply be our own attempt to aggrandize our own impact on the world; it could simply be a natural process. (I just said that I don't agree with this point of view) Until further evidence, similar to the business week findings, surfaces on a much grander (global) scale, nothing has been proven; one situation is just more plausible than the other. Of course even then it could be some weird anomaly...

      Anyway, back to the subject at hand... I don't like your post because you said, "the Bush adminstration was wrong. We are causing global warming. Of course, the Bush administration is also wrong on nearly everything else, but that's not my point." In my mind, at least, this is no different from simply saying Gore sux and that's that; global warming doesn't exist. It appears to me as though you're trying to present your own assumptions as facts.

      I'm probably wrong on some points and I would expect that I'm caught in some hypocritical loop of my own. However, I'd also like to point out that this is all just my opinion; take it as seriously as you'd like.

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  2. Does this explain by gnuke · · Score: 5, Funny

    why it's nice and sunny all week and then rains every weekend?

    1. Re:Does this explain by IthnkImParanoid · · Score: 1

      That is explained well enough by selective memory, I think. You'll remember the camping trip that got rained out much longer than you'll remember the times you just had to bring an umbrella to work.

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    2. Re:Does this explain by dustinmarc · · Score: 1

      I remember when I was in elementary school always thinking that the weather must be controlled by principals and teachers somehow. It seemed like it only ever snowed on the weekends. My parents thought I was losing my mind and I only thought it snowed more on the weekends because I wanted snow days.

      Come to find out, I was right. I can't remember the exact show, but I recall seeing a show on this. It turns out that scientists attribute it to the amount of pollution caused during the week because of traffic jams, long commutes, school buses, etc.

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    3. Re:Does this explain by waynemcdougall · · Score: 5, Informative
      Actually it does. As reported in Nature, August 1998.

      Popular press take on it

      Abstract:
      Direct human influences on climate have been detected at local scales, such as urban temperature increases and precipitation enhancement, and at global scales,. A possible indication of an anthropogenic effect on regional climate is by identification of equivalent weekly cycles in climate and pollution variables. Weekly cycles have been observed in both global surface temperature and local pollution data sets. Here we describe statistical analyses that reveal weekly cycles in three independent regional-scale coastal Atlantic data sets: lower-troposphere pollution, precipitation and tropical cyclones. Three atmospheric monitoring stations record minimum concentrations of ozone and carbon monoxide early in the week, while highest concentrations are observed later in the week. This air-pollution cycle corresponds to observed weekly variability in regional rainfall and tropical cyclones. Specifically, satellite-based precipitation estimates indicate that near-coastal ocean areas receive significantly more precipitation at weekends than on weekdays. Near-coastal tropical cyclones have, on average, significantly weaker surface winds, higher surface pressure and higher frequency at weekends. Although our statistical findings limit the identification of cause-effect relationships, we advance the hypothesis that the thermal influence of pollution-derived aerosols on storms may drive these weekly climate cycles.

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    4. Re:Does this explain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes you were correct, this article confirms your belief that you prinicple and teachers have been controlling the weather for many years.

    5. Re:Does this explain by fenix+down · · Score: 2, Funny

      Anybody else know that "The Way Things Really Work" book? I got it as a present a few years ago, I think. Making fun of "The Way Things Work" with these big overcomplicated flow-chart cartoons about the photo shop guys stealing all the pictures of your wife in her bathing suit. Alternately stupid and funny. The only one I really remember is the one explaining how airport P.A.s work. The guy eats a bunch of "garble lozenges" first and covers the microphone with a "mumble mitten" and whatever. I know he did one for why it rains on weekends, but I don't remeber any of it.

    6. Re:Does this explain by thogard · · Score: 1

      If you think of wather as a mostly dampened system you will find that in the winter and summer its cycle is long but in the sping and fall it approaches 2 to 3 days. In the transtion when the cycle would be 6 to 8 days it does tend to gets streched or shrunk to fit the week and the result is once it starts raining on the weekends, it will keep doing it for several more weeks.

    7. Re:Does this explain by Tokerat · · Score: 1


      Actually, it was train station announcement. Yes, the "Garble Lozenges", and the audio signal is run through a Van De Graaff generator!

      Or how about the guy who sits inside vending machines and pushes the snacks out when you press a button? Or how Chineese food is piped to all places in the country from a central location? Man, that book taught me everything I know...

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  3. Not a Surprise Considering... by DaRat · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... the make up of most teams. After all, with the amount of hot air and BS coming from your PHB and the more difficult members of your team, do you wonder why there is an impact on the climate after a 2 hour team meeting?

    1. Re:Not a Surprise Considering... by DriceX · · Score: 1

      That would violate my black sabbath.

  4. The solution! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    A mandatory 7 day work week! This will result in stability.

    1. Re:The solution! by armyofone · · Score: 1

      I already work eight days a week - you insensitive clod!

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    2. Re:The solution! by isorox · · Score: 1

      A mandatory 0-day work week, with 0-day warez to keep us busy!

    3. Re:The solution! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have to work 8 days a week to produce your 0-day warez you insensitve clod!

  5. Australians found this out first by stephdau · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I remember reading about similar findings by Australian academics in the mid-90's.

    1. Re:Australians found this out first by modme2 · · Score: 1

      comment redundant? this is 10 year old news, maybe it's the story thats redundant

  6. That's why! by lh0628 · · Score: 0, Funny

    So that's why it's so cold in the north pole.

    1. Re:That's why! by computersareevil · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but you haven't been reading the news have you. The North Pole will be a balmy retreat in a few centuries...

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  7. Not Me! by airrage · · Score: 1, Funny

    I don't use aerosol, I use roll on...

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  8. Aerosol by NanoWit · · Score: 5, Funny

    I know when I'm driving to work on weekdays I go through about 2 cans of aerosol spray. You know, just to pass the time. Maybe it's my fault, sorry guys.

    1. Re:Aerosol by RightInTheNeck · · Score: 0

      See the honest people are going to turn in thier aerosol cans but you know the criminals and street gangs are keeping thiers.

    2. Re:Aerosol by realdpk · · Score: 0

      Perhaps we could attempt an aerosol can buyback program. Of course, this might just end up increasing aerosol can thefts, but if we cut off the supply at the stores at the same time, we may have something here.

    3. Re:Aerosol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They gots to keep they bitches pumped wit Aqua-Net.

  9. more legible version by somethingwicked · · Score: 2, Funny

    The prime suspect is aerosol / cloud interactions. Here is the more legible version from Scientific American"

    Because its the weekend at the Scientific American and they don't have the aerosol/cloud interactions making it hazy and unreadable. So their "legible version" is weekday free making it less blurry!

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    1. Re:more legible version by IthnkImParanoid · · Score: 1

      Do they also have a more legible version of that post? :)

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  10. Could it be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Weekdays are consistent. The roads are jam-packed with McDonald's eating slobs driving gas-guzzling SUVs in three hour long traffic jams every day. In and out. Add the heat due to stress from hustling and bustling in the rat race and you've got yourself a case of slightly affected climate.

    Case closed. I wish all scientific inquiry was this easy!

    1. Re:Could it be... by uberdave · · Score: 1

      No, that can't be it, because on the weekends the roads are all jam-packed with McDonald's eating slobs driving gas-guzzling SUVs in three hour long traffic jams on their way to the cottage and back.

    2. Re:Could it be... by darkweasel · · Score: 0

      point.

      Though in winter that effect is somewhat cut back.

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    3. Re:Could it be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except that they also saw the effect in China and Japan, which of course is well-known for their high consentration of gas-guzzling SUVs

    4. Re:Could it be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or it could be the excessive gas from vent-holes like yourself.

    5. Re:Could it be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well I think that's from all the mandatory work-day bacon we cook.

  11. The Chaos Theory or something like that... by Brainboy · · Score: 1

    This is the butterfly in china can cause a hurricane in Florida, only its humans and temperature. Cool. I feel my paradigm changing.

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    1. Re:The Chaos Theory or something like that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um. Yeah. Obviously you:
      A) didn't read the article and barely comprehended the summary
      B) have no clue what chaos theory is

    2. Re:The Chaos Theory or something like that... by metroid+composite · · Score: 1
      Yeah, but you can't link every singe hurricane in Florida back to one butterfly (otherwise they would have killed it already). _>

      Besides, we don't even know if killing a butterfly will cause or prevent a hurricane; storm patterns are just a highly unstable differential equation. Now, we can have some idea what killing every human being on earth would do to the ecosystem. ...Of course, it's probably not a good idea to test that at home....

    3. Re:The Chaos Theory or something like that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      This is the butterfly in china can cause a hurricane in Florida, only its humans and temperature

      Yeah, except instead of the motion of 2 cubic centimeters of air, it's pollution from 10^7 liters of burned gasoline. And instead of magnification by nonlinear interactions it's direct and local effect.

      Anyway...they're both about how living things change the weather, I suppose.

  12. Bah, this is /. by justMichael · · Score: 2, Funny

    most folks here don't use either ;)

  13. This can't be right. by hcuar · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nah, this can't be right... The matrix would suffer from low power and the human's would start to see glitches. OMG! That's why I had to work weekends for the last year! Here I thought it was because we were hopelessly behind in our project! Maybe it is true!

    1. Re:This can't be right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The matrix would suffer from low power and the human's would start to see glitches.

      FUCKING HELL. Apostrophes are NOT for pluralizing! LEARN BASIC GRAMMAR.

    2. Re:This can't be right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Perhaps he just spelled "wood" wrong and is referring to the male erection? Eh, it could happen! I certainly don't want glitches in MY wood.

    3. Re:This can't be right. by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1
      The Matrix isn't a computer program. It's a metaphor.

      You had to work weekends for the last year in order to keep you from looking around too much. Sluuurp! There goes your 'energy'.


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    4. Re:This can't be right. by inertia187 · · Score: 1

      The matrix would suffer from low power and the human's would start to see glitches.

      There is no work week, Neo. Maybe you just need some Ultraprevention.

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  14. Or, more importantly, by Jailbrekr · · Score: 2, Funny

    Can you quantify whether there is a change in temperature variations when SCO publishes yety another press release?

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    1. Re:Or, more importantly, by Lando+Griffin · · Score: 0

      Maybe not a change in temperature, but it has severe ramifications on the bovine manure futures market.

    2. Re:Or, more importantly, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Can you quantify whether there is a change in temperature variations when SCO publishes yety another press release?

      Not yet, but soon. After all this is over with, SCO would have released so many press releases that we will have no trees left! This will create such an instability that will melt the polar ice caps, and cause flooding across the world. The only safe place will be under that ugly fucking tree in a weather channel shaped box. Save trees and the earth! Boycott SCO!

  15. my boss was right! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He said if I kept farting during meetings, the earth's temperature would rise by 1 degree and the human race would become extinct!

    Boy he wasn't kidding!!!!

    1. Re:my boss was right! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need to go to Church then and perhaps some club on saturdays, so things even out.

  16. Does this mean? by bigjnsa500 · · Score: 1

    So does this mean if I ate beans for lunch, my fart will warm the atmosphere by .000000001 degree? And all along we were told it was "Global Warming". Now we know its "Global Warming caused by massive bean eatage".

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    1. Re:Does this mean? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So does this mean if I ate beans for lunch, my fart will warm the atmosphere by .000000001 degree? And all along we were told it was "Global Warming". Now we know its "Global Warming caused by massive bean eatage".

      Believe it or not, this has been studied. In relation to livestock rather than customers of Taco Bell -- but there is scientific literature on the subject.

    2. Re:Does this mean? by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 3, Funny
      ...if I ate beans for lunch, my fart will warm the atmosphere by .000000001 degree?

      Large scale farting (involving sheep) is required for real change:
      http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/947129/posts

      I heard that President Bush is planning a preemptive strike on New Zealand because of their weapons of mass flatulence (WMF). A division of scotsmen will be air dropped in to plug the holes.

  17. the writing is on the wall by net_bh · · Score: 1

    If we don't stop working and be slackers at home, we might not have our beloved home which would have been a target of mother nature's wrath!

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  18. Sept. 11-13, 2001 Research Results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Due to the unprecedented halt of all non-military air travel over the United States during the above period, scientists were able to perform research on the effects of jet contrails. During their research, it was found that a single jet contrail could be tracked by satellite across the U.S., growing from a narrow plume of vapor to substantial cloud cover as it traveled the country. Such detailed observation was not possible before, due to the thousands of flights a day crossing the U.S. I believe the study you are referencing is linked to this one.

    The majority of flights across the U.S. are during the daytime hours on weekdays. Sounds like a high probability of a connection here, this deserves further investigation.

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    1. Re:Sept. 11-13, 2001 Research Results by heli0 · · Score: 0, Troll
      • "during the above period, scientists were able to perform research on the effects of jet contrails"

      Why was this moderated 'interesting' and 'insightful'? Do you see any links to this supposed 'research'? Is there any reason to assume that this is not entirely fabricated?

      • "During their research, it was found that a single jet contrail could be tracked by satellite across the U.S"

      Was this research conducted by Art Bell and Jeff Rense? Has it only been published to a geocities or indymedia site? Links??!!?
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    2. Re:Sept. 11-13, 2001 Research Results by wideBlueSkies · · Score: 1

      >>During their research, it was found that a single jet contrail could be tracked by satellite across the U.S., growing from a narrow plume of vapor to substantial cloud cover as it traveled the country

      Guess which plane it was that the researchers tracked.

      Air Force One. The only plane flying that day.

      Not exactly true. It was Air Force one and 2 escort fighters...so 3 planes.

      wbs.

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    3. Re:Sept. 11-13, 2001 Research Results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Having been in a position to observe real-time, NATIONAL air traffic data on Sept. 11-13, I could say without a doubt that Air Force One and its accompanying escorts were far from the only aircraft in the sky. If you recall, it was widely reported that there were military aircraft in the air over New York and Washington D.C., watching for other attempted attacks. Bush and Co. were in Texas, so more jets there. Finally, the Red Cross had relief flights in the air once the severity of the tragedy became known.

      Don't believe everything you read on the Internet!

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  19. The actual prime suspect by worst_name_ever · · Score: 5, Funny
    The prime suspect is aerosol / cloud interactions.

    No, the prime suspect is my co-worker Bob. Man, does that guy ever have B.O. Jeez.

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    1. Re:The actual prime suspect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Man do I feel sorry for you. Seriously, I know what that's like. Last place I worked had at least three smelly people in the developer building.

      The rest of us hoped that by bathing or showering daily, we would set examples of good hygiene for them to emulate. Sadly that was not the case. Spraying air-freshener every hour or so didn't do anything to tip them off. Before anyone had the balls to confront these smelly people, they were laid off, and my work contract had finished as well.

      Off-topic: In a cartoon called pond life (or some such thing), this English couple had visitors come in from Canada. They made a joke of the Canadians having a shower as soon as they got off the flight. Is regular showering/bathing not common in Europe? I wonder.

    2. Re:The actual prime suspect by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aww, jeez. Did ya have to go announce it to the entire world?

      You know I wear deoderant!

      It's not my fault, really. It's a glandular problem.

  20. Air conditioners by zymano · · Score: 1

    Heard something that air conditioners working extra duty on the weekend causes more heat in the cities and this is why tornadoes rarely go through there.

    1. Re:Air conditioners by bigjnsa500 · · Score: 1

      Correction, tornadoes don't go thru cities because there are no trailer parks.

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    2. Re:Air conditioners by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And there are no trailor parks there because there are jobs in the city.

    3. Re:Air conditioners by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 1

      That's the funny theory. The actual theory I've seen is that the tall buildings disrupt the airflows that are necessary to feed a tornado. A long time ago I saw an article about this theory that plotted the paths of all tornadoes in the Chicago metropolitan area. The downtown area seemed to be magically spared from getting hit.

    4. Re:Air conditioners by fucksl4shd0t · · Score: 1

      That's the funny theory. The actual theory I've seen is that the tall buildings disrupt the airflows that are necessary to feed a tornado. A long time ago I saw an article about this theory that plotted the paths of all tornadoes in the Chicago metropolitan area. The downtown area seemed to be magically spared from getting hit.

      That's interesting. A few years back, 4 huge tornadoes leveled downtown Fort Worth.

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    5. Re:Air conditioners by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 1

      That was kind of strange. OTOH, Fort Worth looks like it only seems to have half a dozen tall buildings. It's not exactly another Chicago.

    6. Re:Air conditioners by lrucker · · Score: 1

      I'd heard it was thermals caused by all that concrete radiating heat.

    7. Re:Air conditioners by fucksl4shd0t · · Score: 1

      That was kind of strange. OTOH, Fort Worth looks like it only seems to have half a dozen tall buildings. It's not exactly another Chicago.

      Odd, I remember Fort Worth being huge, and Dallas even bigger, in the downtown areas when I lived in Austin. Now I live in Bellevue, in the Seattle metropolitan area, and looking at those pictures Fort Worth just looks like a minor opolis, or a minopolis. :)

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    8. Re:Air conditioners by insensitive_clod · · Score: 1

      Cities seem to be hit by few tornados, mainly because cities take up very little space. Tornados are fairly rare and effect small areas. It shouldn't be too surpising that cities are rarely hit..

      if you have a 1/10000 of the land is city and 1/10000 of the land gets hit by tornadoes, then you'd have a 1 in 100000000 chance of a tornado hitting a city.

      Also, thunderstorms (especially supercell storms) are big (read: HUGE). City structures aren't very big in comparison. Salt Lake City and Nashville have been hit in recent years...

      With Chicago, I'd guess it has more to do with the lake than with the buildings.

  21. No problem in India. by fmaxwell · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    If deodorant of any type is the cause, then India will be unaffected by this phenomenon.

  22. Another possible reason is... by NewbieV · · Score: 4, Informative
    Airline traffic. CNN reported on some research conducted by the University of Wisconsin while US air traffic was grounded.

    Relevant quote:

    "As a result, they (contrails) help reduce the daily range in daytime highs and nighttime lows. Contrails, by providing additional insulation, further reduce the variability."

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  23. In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Conservatives were quick to claim that this is really just part of a natural, long-term cycle. 'Any implication that humans could have any possible effect on climate whatsoever is bad for big business, and therefore bad for America, and only supports terrorism,' said John B. Stickindamud, R-TX."

    1. Re:In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facts about things that are actually positive in the United States, facts about things that are negative about things opposed to the United States, and the fact that someone who attains the office of President isn't stupid will pass through the air gap between a leftist a$$hat's ears like a neutrino through a donut hole.

  24. That's why it rains on weekends by whereiswaldo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was trying to look for a report I read once that pointed to higher smog during weekdays as a major factor in rain occurring mostly on weekends.

    This report probably says some of the same things, though:

    Ozone Linked to Warmer Weekend Temperatures in Toronto

  25. Similar Effect to Microclimates by darkstar949 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The effect that cities have (i.e. Microclimates) on the local tempatures in relation to the area around them has been known for some time and this seems to be a logical extention of the microclimate. As such it seems logical that the exaust from cars would tend to be greater on weekdays when people are going to and from work, and would decline on the weekends.

  26. Thats it... by buktotruth · · Score: 2, Funny

    Thats it, i'm staying home during the week and going to work on the weekends. Gotta counteract this "weekend effect somehow"...even if it means going to work 3 days less during the week. I'll be taking one for the team here.

  27. A Possibility I was partially responsible for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Many of the weather stations that record the data that these people used are simple mercury or alcohol thermometers that get read by humans.

    I was one of these thermometer readers in grad school. During the work week, I was up for class or to go to the office, so I always read the thermometer at the same time, like I was supposed to. On weekends, it was hard to get the motivation to get out of bed early just to read a thermometer, so a lot of times I read it later than I was supposed to and guesstimated what the temp was a few hours earlier.

    I worried about the researchers using data from my weather station, but not enough to drag my butt out of bed any earlier.

    1. Re:A Possibility I was partially responsible for by Ark42 · · Score: 1


      I would hope weather stations use digital thermometers now-a-days and automatically sample hourly or even more often readings into a database someplace.

      I cant imagine where else data for graphs like this come from.

    2. Re:A Possibility I was partially responsible for by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure -- some places like the one you cited use digital weather stations, but most of the National Weather Service weather stations still use old fashioned thermometers.

      And I know that there were people locally that used the data for their research.

    3. Re:A Possibility I was partially responsible for by Mooncaller · · Score: 2, Informative

      The stations used to collect data for these studies were specificaly set up to do this study, i.e. setup to insure that the error in data was independent of the week cycle. All meteroligist are well aware of the traditional unreliability of weekend/holiday data. This is one of the reasons for the data collection portion of these studies. Otherwise a lot of time and effort could have been saved by using already existing data.

    4. Re:A Possibility I was partially responsible for by Ark42 · · Score: 1
      Sure -- some places like the one you cited use digital weather stations, but most of the National Weather Service weather stations still use old fashioned thermometers.

      And I know that there were people locally that used the data for their research.



      I think Wunderground.com as well as many other places like weather.com/accuweather.com probably all pull their data from the same place. I would imagine all the data comes from noaa.gov and some network like nexrad as well as all the major airports. There is likely enough automatic digitally recorded data to safely do a study without relying on human-read temperatures.
      Of course, I -could- be wrong, and these airports and other stations really do have a person who reads the temp every 30 minutes and enters it into some vt100 terminal, but I doubt that.

  28. Climate hell by grasshoppa · · Score: 1

    I can guarantee TIME itself slows down on the work week, and speeds up during the weekend.

    Fact.

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  29. What about waste heat? by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 1

    Twice as many air conditioners/heaters, lots of buildings using more power, lots of bosses filling whole auditoria with hot air--the heat has to go somewhere.

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  30. Re:What about mass Taco Bell Picnics? by RobinH · · Score: 3, Funny

    Did anyone test to see if the consumption of bean filled meals changed the environment? They blame global warming on bovine flatulence but it could it be the mass consumption of burritos?

    I always wondered why it was so hot in Mexico... now I know! Wow, on Slashdot, you learn something new every day.

    I already figured out why it's colder in Canada though... you see, people up here in Canada are more likely to wear insulated clothing, and that keeps body heat from escaping into the environment. This effect is most notable in the winter, when almost everyone wears several layers of insulated clothing when going out of their house, and this translates to even colder temperatures than usual. Of course, the interiors of houses still stay warm all year long, because people never wear bulky clothing indoors; that would be rather inconvenient, after all.

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  31. Try publishing that theory by siskbc · · Score: 1, Troll
    ... and that definitely contributes to more pollution being in the air which will definitely have an effect on temperatures.. I don't know what's being "discovered" here..

    Really? Because global warming doesn't act over a period of days, for God's sake. So the answer isn't nearly as simple as your average uneducated slashbot seems to believe. Science rarely is.

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    1. Re:Try publishing that theory by pla · · Score: 4, Informative

      Because global warming doesn't act over a period of days

      Global warming, no. Local effects, yes.

      In case we've already forgotten, during the no-fly restriction after the WTC attack, daily temperature variations changed by up to two degrees Fahrenheit per day in areas normally having the highest levels of air traffic.

      So yes, something as simple as increased particulate matter in the air leads to increased cloud formation, drastically affecting local weather, over the course of hours rather than years.

      Such changes may have little to no long-term effects, but they do occur, and do have a simple enough explanation that your "average uneducated slashbot" can understand it. More particulates means more clouds, which means less temperature variation.

    2. Re:Try publishing that theory by siskbc · · Score: 1
      In case we've already forgotten, during the no-fly restriction after the WTC attack, daily temperature variations changed by up to two degrees Fahrenheit per day in areas normally having the highest levels of air traffic.

      It does. How does that, however, explain the areas (like all of Japan) that have the opposite trend? This effect isn't as simple as some would like to believe. In fact, the authors don't even claim it as certainty, because it's not. The fact that the effect is positive in some areas and negative in others underscores that.

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    3. Re:Try publishing that theory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How does that, however, explain the areas (like all of Japan) that have the opposite trend?

      Sorry, you read the article wrong. Japan shows the same trend. It's just not as pronounced as in the U.S. Which is not surprising, since they drive less.

    4. Re:Try publishing that theory by siskbc · · Score: 1
      Sorry, you read the article wrong. Japan shows the same trend.

      Actually, I insist that I did NOT. Japan was in blue, the midwest of America was in red (indicating different changes, +/-, in temperature. Read the PNAS paper.

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    5. Re:Try publishing that theory by FroMan · · Score: 1

      sample size of: 1 week

      I'd like to see the error percentage on that.

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    6. Re:Try publishing that theory by FroMan · · Score: 1

      In case we've already forgotten, during the no-fly restriction after the WTC attack, daily temperature variations changed by up to two degrees Fahrenheit per day in areas normally having the highest levels of air traffic.

      I love how folks try to bring this up.

      Does sample size mean anything to you? You know, < week in a year is a far cry from a valid sample size.

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    7. Re:Try publishing that theory by FroMan · · Score: 1

      Doh, wrong one... sorry, meant to reply to your "child post".

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  32. I read a book by anotherone · · Score: 2, Funny

    I saw a book a few years ago called "The Way Things Really Work", which proposed something very close to this theory. It was a humor book, however. It also suggested that we add a few more days to the week to solve the problem.

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  33. Pythagoras was ahead of his time. by chadjg · · Score: 1

    He said, "Eating beans is a crime equal to eating the heads of one's parents."

    Who knew the old codger had global warming figured out back then!

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  34. Can you explain? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can you explain why the effect moves one direction in some cities (i.e., the difference is smaller on the weekend) and another direction in other cities (i.e., the difference is larger on the weekend)?

    1. Re:Can you explain? by darkstar949 · · Score: 1

      IANAM (I Am Not A Meterologist) but I would venture a guess that I might be related to the jet stream and smilar movements. There are some parts of the country were there is a high Ozone level even though there is no heavy industry.

    2. Re:Can you explain? by Mooncaller · · Score: 1

      The reverse effect is seen in coastal cities. The climate of coastal cities is influenced by the marine air mass. Air masses do not mix very much. Weekday activity might be setting up convection or some other mechinism, allowing a deaper penetration of the marine layer.

  35. Release the Hounds! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...although the exact mechanism is unclear

    Well, that's all the proof we need to start drafting the international treaties! Hey, it's about Global Climate Change! We can't afford to wait until we understand how it works! Think of the flooding for God's sakes! Didn't any of you see Waterworld?

  36. If working causes pollution.... by jameskojiro · · Score: 0

    Then can i get a tax deduction for working from home?

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  37. A better Solution! by uberdave · · Score: 1

    How about a seven day weekend.

    1. Re:A better Solution! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the only solution as climate change is deemed bad by most people.

  38. No, it's from the meetings... by Rinikusu · · Score: 1

    It's from all the goddamn hot-air spewing out from the self-important PHB's. I'd say huddling all the caffeinated, overweight engineers into a cramped meeting space for hours makes for a nice heat-sink.

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    1. Re:No, it's from the meetings... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You need to learn basic thermodynamics.

      I'd say that a group of overweight engineers in a cramped meeting space would be more of a heat-source...

  39. I guess... by iomud · · Score: 4, Funny

    Unemployment is the new environmentalism.

    1. Re:I guess... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does that makes George W Bush the greatest environmentalist we've had in decades?

    2. Re:I guess... by Johnny5000 · · Score: 1

      "Unemployment is the new environmentalism."

      Who knew it? Dubya's an environmentalist after all.

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  40. 71st post! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Read it and weep, you biatch whores!!!!

  41. 74th post! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hahahah... eat THIS, you suckers!

  42. it's must be... by Box+Checker · · Score: 1

    ...all the hot air spewing from the mouths of morons in middle management.

  43. Strange side effect of 9/11 by fuqqer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When 9/11 occurred, I remember seeing an article saying that during the 4 days that worldwide flights were grounded, there was a 3-5%(I think) decrease in cloud cover. I presume this is because of con trails and exhaust conglomeration in the sky. It led to a rise in temperature during the day, and less insulation so it was colder at night. Does anyone have any links? I couldn't find anything.

    I always used to fantasize that, "If I became king, I would outlaw all auto usage for one day a month at least." Maybe scientific validation won't lead me to begin my brutal takeover of the world...

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    1. Re:Strange side effect of 9/11 by fuqqer · · Score: 3, Informative

      Ahhhhh.... Here it is. It's a Chicago Tribune article.

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    2. Re:Strange side effect of 9/11 by fuqqer · · Score: 1

      Here we have a classic, slashdot pessimist. That's ok. Going off at the handle is the stereotype we slashdotters fit best. Now, if you RTFP, you'd note the question in the first paragraph saying I remember reading the piece but not where it was.

      Now that you've opened your mouth, please insert foot...
      Here,, here, and of course, here.
      (The CNN article references U of Wisconsin research)

      Let alone the fact that the main slashdot story references the National Acadamy of science and Scientific American.

      I believe this is where the mods rate you a troll.
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    3. Re:Strange side effect of 9/11 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can reference whoever you want.

      Tacking references on to a bad thesis is something all hack scientists learn early.

  44. Nudist colonies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But why aren't the people at nudist colonies hot?

    1. Re:Nudist colonies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well, let's face it: You don't need to be a supermodel to be a nudist.

    2. Re:Nudist colonies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, I'd rather face the other way if you don't mind...

  45. Well, clearly then by Gay+Nigger · · Score: 0

    We'll just have to get the government to mandate a 3-day work week, before this whole environment thingy gets out of hand.

  46. The reason is obvious by phorm · · Score: 1

    All those work machines with Athlon CPU's that are normally turned off during the weekend.

    To some extent this is serious though, I have noticed a definate increase in room temperature when lots of computers are on (hell, even 2-3 high-end machines at home make a difference on a hot day), any chance that this would affect the outside environment as well.

    How about invisible brainzap waves from cellphones, etc? Do those dissipate heat?

    1. Re:The reason is obvious by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 1

      Computers don't really give off enough heat to cause climate changes -- one system is only the equivalent of a few 100-watt light bulbs, and there are many pieces of equipment that generate a lot more heat (air conditioners, cooking equipment, cars...) Moreover, those sources are all practically negligible compared with the amount of heat coming in from the sun.

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  47. Butterfly in the sky... by DrewCapu · · Score: 1

    It's gotta be from those butterflies in China. If we could control those butterflies in China, perhaps then, and only then, can we control the climate here in the US. =)

  48. Good Science vs. Bad Science by __aagmrb7289 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unlike most of the "it's obvious" responses I read through the thread on this article (followed by a simplistic explanation of a single cause, etc.), these researchers (and the publishers) did a great job carefully explaining how they did the testing, what their conclusions were, and why the conclusion was the only one possible. They did not attempt to tie in a bunch of agendas to their research, they merely stated the clear and definite tie between our actions and the temperature difference.

    Now, if only we here at /. can follow this example, and watch for this clarity in other "scientific studies" - if they aren't being this clear and precise, then they are pushing an agenda (and since that is such a simple conclusion, it's likely wrong (at least in some circumstances), but close enough...)

  49. How prejudice affects science by stratjakt · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    This is, by and large, a left-leaning forum.

    So, when you read this, everyone jumps to conclusions about smog and cars and whatnot.

    Perhaps, the weather varies less because of all the buildings which act as a windblock, trapping the air rather than replacing it with cooler air?

    Try not to jump to conclusions.

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    1. Re:How prejudice affects science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sounds like denial to me.

  50. Contrails / Chemtrails / Crackpots by switcha · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If contrails get your conspiracy bones jittery, check out this piece our local weekly did on chemtrails and the people who love them.

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    1. Re:Contrails / Chemtrails / Crackpots by gordyf · · Score: 1

      That was an extremely good article on that particular phenomenon/conspiracy. I've run across "chemtrail" sites before, and was frightened - not from the "data", but the people.

      Anyway, thanks for posting the link.

  51. Simple! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Duh! Most people huff aerosol sprays on the weekend! So we have a large concentration of aerosol sprays in addition to dumbfucks on the weekend.

  52. Re:Welp.. thanks for playing... by Brad+Mace · · Score: 2, Insightful
    That's not insightful; that's obvious, redundant, and unnecessary. When modding, think about why someone else would want to read a comment. If you can't think of a reason, don't mod it up.

    Hopefully this experiment means that the people feigning humility with their "humanity can't have that much effect on the world" crap will have to shut up now. Unlike years and months, weekdays are completely arbitrary, so either humans are effecting the environment, or it's a billion to one coincidence.

  53. I've always been an advocate.. by butane_bob2003 · · Score: 1

    ..of the 2 day workweek. Monday is not so bad when you know the work week ends tomorrow. And we all need to do our part to limit the impact we have on the environment. Ill have to bring this to the boss's attention.

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  54. Climate change, hah! That's nothing compared . . . by ahfoo · · Score: 1

    to the insanity created by the perversion of sleep cycles that the so-called work week creates.
    Sleep studies have shown that if people are allowed to follow their natural cycles, they'll still sleep about eight hours a night. But what they won't do is go to sleep and get up the same time every day. That's totally artificial and there is no evidence that it is healthy or normal behavior for humans.
    What happens is that people with unrestrained sleep cycles tend to go asleep an hour later every day. So, in the course of 24 days they will naturally form a complete cycle and return to their original bedtime.
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  55. Worldwide flights weren't grounded by phr1 · · Score: 1

    Only US flights (including international flights entering or leaving the US) were grounded. And the US was still doing some flying (military and government flights, including the one that took Osama Bin Laden's relatives back to Saudi Arabia). But yeah, US commercial traffic is a big chunk of total worldwide air traffic.

  56. Old Study of Tornado Frequencies by Lucas+Membrane · · Score: 1
    THere was some alleged statistical finding some years back (25 or so, IIRC) about there being more tornados on weekdays. This brought about some speculation that the tornados were assisted by the habit of driving on the right and turning right more than left and that this put a little extra angular momentum into the troposphere. The weather people puzzled over this for a while, said that there was way too much energy and angular momentum in a tornado for people to have much effect on them, decided that the statistics were bad, and tried to forget about the whole thing.

    Of course, temperature differences in the atmosphere are the energy source for all storms, and now that we have a weekday-vs-weekend temperature change, the tornado thing might get looked at again.

  57. Hot air from DC by utlemming · · Score: 1

    You know, I have told my friends that DC is hotter because of all the hot air of Capitol Hill. I guess this is the proof I need....

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  58. In other news by Ancil · · Score: 1

    The Republican Party immediately issued a statement pointing out that this 7-day cycle could be due natural processes which are not yet understood. They urged no action until further research was completed.

  59. Re:Climate change, hah! That's nothing compared . by CrackHappy · · Score: 1

    Ok I gotta ask, WTF does that have to do with Fen Branklin?

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  60. Controls in the study by xjqkojqxj · · Score: 0

    Did they compare temperature changes in the cities to temperature changes in areas of low population? If not, their results are meaningless, or at least the conclusion they draw is meaningless. This is another example of mixing up association with causation.

  61. Old by RPI+Geek · · Score: 1

    I remember hearing about this a few years ago. Then when I got to college (RPI), I noticed that the weather tends to be nicer earlier in the week.

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  62. Re:What about mass Taco Bell Picnics? by hkfczrqj · · Score: 1

    people up here in Canada are more likely to wear insulated clothing, and that keeps body heat from escaping into the environment.

    It also keeps human flatulence trapped inside insulated clothing, so canadians doesn't contribute to global warming that way.

    Cheers...

  63. Re:Climate change, hah! That's nothing compared . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Ok I gotta ask, WTF does that have to do with Fen Branklin?

    This.

  64. Is this old science? Is science repeating itself? by vudufixit · · Score: 1

    I remember hearing 15 years ago about the links between work patterns and climate, although it was a bit more focused on the effect holidays had on factories being closed, with a net result of diminished cloud cover and rainfall (less particulates for clouds to form aronud.) Also, anyone here familiar with "chemtrails" and their close cousin the contrail-induced cloud cover? Not new either - I saw in a 1979 issue of Omni that scientists were looking into jet contrails as the cause of high altitude cloud formation.

  65. Taco Bell by Mooncaller · · Score: 1
    If Atmosperic methane correlates with the expansion of the Taco Bell franchise, can we just blame them?

    Of course we would be following the media lead in ignoring that silly correlation vs. causality thing, in doing this. But thats OK, because its for a good cause.

    On a serious note, there is some discusion regading the effects of dinofarts on the Jurasic weather.

  66. Airlines by gr8_phk · · Score: 0, Redundant

    The week following 9/11 when the US was a no-fly zone also saw wider daily swings in temperature. I don't recall the source, but the experiment is rather difficult to reproduce. Does air traffic decrease on the weekend? I don't know.

  67. What about air conditioning? by NeuroManson · · Score: 1

    If I recall correctly, air conditioners put out a large amount of exhaust heat, which can raise ambient outdoor temperatures by up to 5 degrees on average.

    During weekdays, most of these home air conditioners are at work. Since they don't really want to pay an extra $20-$30 in electric costs, they turn them off, which gives a two fold effect. Less pollution from power plants, and less "heat pollution" in the overall areas.

    In the winter, you get much the same effect (poorly insulated buildings dump heat into the environment almost as badly as air conditioner heat coils), along with the energy consumption of keeping their homes warm.

    The office buildings and businesses they're working at have air conditioning too, but it's more localized (eg; restricted to one specific densely occupied area), and as businesses are even more anal regarding expenses, the air conditioners used tend to be perhaps just a bit more efficient.

    So essentially, you have less energy consumption in residential areas during weekdays, along with reduced heat pollution to screw up minor things like air currents, which in turn modifies how clouds form, and possibly on a larger scale, how the jetstream travels.

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  68. causes or corillation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Has any one thought that maybe the weekend is situated the way it is (workweek as well) simply becouse there is a previously undocumented climate system that we (human race) have adopted our work schedule around?

    I guess the only way to prove this right or wrong would be to change the work week around....

    I wonder what occums razor says is the most likely theory?

    hook

  69. I did RTFA and still don't know anything... by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 1
    The article just says stations, but it doesn't say where those stations are.

    I would not be at all surprised if this is an urban phenomenom. Seems I've seen stuff like this reported about cities before.

    I bet rural stations don't show such fluctuations, so what's the point?

    Clearly this is not a global effect, since the article names specific countries, so, what does it mean? What's the context? My bathroom gets steamy everytime I use it... so what?

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    1. Re:I did RTFA and still don't know anything... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My bathroom gets steamy everytime I use it... so what?

      Even when you're just taking a piss? Dude, either call a qualified plumber or a doctor. (-;

  70. Smooth. by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Did they compare temperature changes in the cities to temperature changes in areas of low population? If not, their results are meaningless, or at least the conclusion they draw is meaningless. This is another example of mixing up association with causation.

    I love how you ask the question, and then before even pausing to find the answer, you leap to your pre-determined conclusion; (That the science must be bad.)

    Next time you stick your fingers in your ears, try also singing, "La La La." Works better.


    -FL

    1. Re:Smooth. by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 1
      "Did they compare temperature changes in the cities to temperature changes in areas of low population?"

      "I love how you ask the question..........."

      If the guy had read the Scientific American article, he would have seen the contrast between coastal and inland temperature behaviour. In coastal cities it gets warmer at the weekends, inland it gets warmer during the week. From the article:
      "The direction of the effect was not always the same, however. Some cities (particularly those on the coast) exhibited higher DTRs [Diurnal Temperature Ranges] on the weekends than during the weeks, whereas many in the midwest showed smaller DTRs on the weekends."
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  71. chemtrails by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you know what im talking about ...chemtrails

  72. it all makes sense by geekoid · · Score: 0

    Bush's plan to save the enviroment is to see that there are no jobs.
    Well done.

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  73. Nice try. by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1
    If contrails get your conspiracy bones jittery, check out this piece our local weekly did on chemtrails and the people who love them.

    Okay. . .

    First off, this article was written by one of those AAN papers. --That is to say, a cookie-cutter pop-culture weekly owned by a family of millionaires. One brother is currently the mayer of Raleigh, N.C., and their father was the U.S. ambassador to Romania during the Ceausescu / Nixon years.

    I've spent enough time with diplomatic families to know a few things. . .

    1. Diplomat = Spy.

    2. Spies in hotzone countries during the Cold War, are PLUGGED THE HELL IN.

    3. Sons and daughters of Plugged-The-Hell-In spies have been well versed in how the world really works.

    4. Richard Meeker, (the owner of the paper in which your story was printed), isn't going to hire a staff of people who are going to get him in trouble by exposing what the secret military is up to. --If he's as smart as his Dad, who was smart enough to last across two decades in a crucial game piece country during the cold war, then he'll know how to run a safe paper.


    Sorry. Your posted story is pretty much useless. Thanks for playing.


    -FL

  74. THIS JUST IN!!!!!!!!! by tetrahedrassface · · Score: 0
    A doubleblind study of Global Warming Studies has shown that more study is needed. The presindent has set a period time in which we will study our data and determine if prior predictions of climate change are accurate.

    Im the meantime you can all rest assured that penguins really do thrive in tropical humid and/or dry areas.............sorry again......

  75. Instead of 5 on 2 off, try 7 on 7 off by yerricde · · Score: 1

    Actually, seven days on and seven days off might just be a good idea. One problem is that people with strong monotheistic religious convictions will want to take every Saturday or every Sunday (depending on faith) off.

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  76. Stagger work weeks by yerricde · · Score: 1

    Disclaimer: "I do recognize a joke." We now return you to your regularly scheduled reply.

    Adding more days to the week wouldn't work too well, as it would merely shift the problems to the added days. On the other hand, staggering work weeks just might avoid climate change, but it would destroy the cultural concept of a "weekend" as a time for recreation.

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  77. What's sigma in this case? by yerricde · · Score: 1

    Perhaps there was 3-4% less cloud cover for those 4 days, because of perfectly normal weather patterns?

    Or perhaps the 3-4 percent decrease cloud cover was several sigmas out of whack, dropping sharply when all flights were grounded and then rising as jets took to the skies once again. I am not a meteorologist; I don't know what sort of variability to expect from the amount of cloud cover. A statistician can't make any informed judgments about the magnitude of a momentary change in a measured value without at least a knowledge of the standard deviation in the measurement caused by typical weather patterns.

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  78. ...and then a moderator said.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here's a link. You could have used Scientific American's search feature to find it. Or how about the abstract here. Perhaps the original poster assumed too much by assuming that you could remember back a whole year and a half to when the study was published.

  79. Sorry about that.... by Door-opening+Fascist · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I guess I'll have to stop eating those burritos in the morning.

  80. Time for another CmdrTaco post.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    CmdrTaco reports that Dr. Izzy Finklestern, assistant Agronomy lecturer at Taxidermy Polytechnic Institute of South Goshen, has written an article proving that popular Slashdot articles cause global warming due to the increase in computer activity from resulting discussion threads.

  81. go away you idiots! by p51d007 · · Score: 0, Troll

    I just wish these stupid anticapitalist/socialist would just shut up, sit down, and do something constructive. Most of these idiots have NEVER had a job in their lives, just living off the expense of taxpayers with research grants for junk science like this. Grow up, get over it and get a job!
    Be productive, and quit with this chicken little crap.
    Drink coffee, no don't drink coffee, eat oat bran, no don't eat oat bran. Stay away from popcorn, no, popcorn is good for you. Get it? Remember the R12 freon crap a few years ago? Now that it's banned, and no one has it, and R134 dosen't work as well, lo and behold what do we find? Gee, we were wrong, R12 dosen't cause a hole in the ozone . Ummm, it's been happening for centuries, and we've only been monitoring it for a few decades. Whats a few decades in the LIFE of planet Earth? Something like a few miliseconds.......

  82. Evidences of this are pretty old... by SysKoll · · Score: 1

    Evidence of human activity impacting the weather are pretty old and commonplace.

    Which evidence, you ask? Look, each time -- each freakin' time -- I wash my car, it rains. Same for yours, right?

    The gummint obviously embeds a special weather transmogrifier in cars, which, triggered by a soapy water detector, prevents honest citizens from parading their shiny cars on country roads, so that these blasted civil servants can have them for themselves.

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  83. SAVE THE PLANET! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...call in sick.

  84. This phenomenon is not new by shadowxtc · · Score: 1

    MIT researchers in Boston concluded years ago that Boston receives less precipitation and has higher temperatures on weekdays and usually receives more precipitation and lower temperatures on the weekends, due to large amounts of standing traffic. They further suggested that this may be due to the emissions of the vehicles actually rising to form cloud barriers and reduce the rate of evaporation.

  85. Obvious! by migloo · · Score: 1

    Thermometers travel more on weekends.

  86. rain every weekend.. by Thrakkerzog · · Score: 0, Redundant

    so that's why it rains every weekend, and is beautiful during the work week!

  87. Car emissions by aaaurgh · · Score: 1
    I recall seeing an article about this on the ABC (Australian) about a year ago - the program was one in a series, I believe, called Wild World or Wild Planet which discussed various environmental things like the ocean jet streams and so on, concentrating on one aspect of the weather each week.

    The program hypothosised that the weekend weather phenomina was due primarily to exhaust fumes of the commuters. The emissions would build up in the atmosphere during the week, with increasing cloud formations, and 'overflow' at the weekend - the rain.

    The program was admittedly light on fine detail but there is a certain logic in the idea.

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  88. Maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...this explains why it always rains on Bank Holiday Monday? Great Mystery of the Universe solved. Now we need to explain why there's always a James Bond film on TV.

  89. Hold on to your tinfoil hats! by lxs · · Score: 1

    That's the funniest link I've read in ages. These people make UFO watchers look sane. Thanks.