Slashdot Mirror
Internet Speed Record Broken (Again)
captain igor writes "CNN is reporting that researchers at Caltech and CERN successfully send 1.1 Terabytes of data at a rate of 5.44 Gbps. This is around 20,000 times faster than your typical home broadband connection and almost doubles the previous record. "
I wonder what they transmitted. Judging by the language in the CNN article, whatever it was, I hope the RIAA or MPAA didn't mind.
A programmer is a machine for converting coffee into code.
Imagine!
And it will continue to be broken.
On to other news
Are these record breakers just stunts, or do they have a practical application?
This space available.
Just wait until Jack Valenti hears about this
and is also equivalent to transferring a 60-minute compact disc within one second -- an operation that takes around eight minutes on standard broadband.
What broadband is this? my cable modem can't download 600 megs of data in 15 minutes.
What is slashdot?
"Speed is equivilent to downloading a DVD in 7 seconds, or a full length music CD in under a second." I could download every CD on the billboard top 100 list quicker than the RIAA settled with that 12 year old girl.
--
Are you a Chipotle Fan?
Whoa...
/neo
Until I can download a pizza in 30 minutes or less, I will not be satisfied!
Technology improves over time.
Why don't I just die from suprise? At least THAT would be news.
Slashdot still doesnâ(TM)t support Unicode after it was added to the HTML standard in 1997.
With this, I'll be able to fill up the IBM Storage Tank I ordered... I want to download the internet...
Food not Bombs is a nice platitude but it breaks down when you notice that the Bombees are usually well fed
I'd like to see some /usr/sbin/traceroute output
between the two hops used in the test.
My guess: no more than 2 or 3 hops max.
Now sending a file *across the ocean* at that speed would be quite impressive.
/* * pope1 */
is bring it to the home:)
-Seriv
Shut up about porn.
I mean, P0rn DVD are just 70 to 80 minutes. And I can't think of anything else for so much bandwidth. LOTR trilogy extended edition might do, but just for the bragging rights. No... p0rn should do... :-)
pr0n.
What else could benchmark transfer rates?
My DS3 looks .... Slow.
The real application for this kind of speed is "Click and Watch" (TM)(C) Movies. What point is there to downloading if it is nearly instantaneous delivery?
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
5.44 Gbps? Only 5.44 times faster than Gigabit Ethernet? I doubt that. Perhaps you meant Tbps?
And figure out if this still beats a station wagon (or SUV or whatever) loaded with DVDs, CDs, backup tapes, etc.
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos
The real question is, when are we going to have better speeds for home users? Even "broadband" connections are slow. Is there any progress being made in this arena right now? Perhaps faster data transfers over cable lines?
MakePassword.com Mp3 Blog
I transmitted a dictionary across the room in .05 seconds, when I threw it. I think it's important to note the type of connection that they are using, protocol, etc... hardware? software? C'mon, guys! Post something in the article that lets us know some detail, so that I know it wasn't just a dictionary being thrown across the room or something dumb like that.
stuff |
us perverts await our vr immersive experience
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
I still want to get off of dialup at my apartment. And even when I had broadband, there were still sites that wouldn't load very quickly. The servers are going to need some upgrading as well, I think, before bandwidth becomes the only bottleneck. Still, that's really cool. I hope to see something approaching instant response within my lifetime. Besides my old DOS computer, way back when. :)
-1, "1337" speak
A truckload of DVDs :)
No, really. A nice truck filled with DVDs would deliver more information to the destination in shorter time than ultra-highspeed connection. Of course it's not quite the same as sustained connection...
Hyperom.com
I will only be satisfied when this is done with
a Microslop Browser that has been endorsed
by G. W. Bush
George H. W. Bush - Not much
George W. Bush - Even less!
Very truly yours,
W00t
Two major scientific research centres said on Wednesday they had set a new world speed record for sending data across the Internet, equivalent to transferring a full-length DVD film in seven seconds.
The European Organisation for Nuclear Research, CERN, said the feat, doubling the previous top speed, was achieved in a nearly 30-minute transmission over 7,000 kms ofticle Physics and home to a hugely ambitious particle-smashing project to unravel the fundamental laws of nature, hailed the feat as a milestone.
It would bring closer researchers' final goal of abolishing distance and making collaboration between scientists around the world efficient and effectively instantaneous, he said.
Harvey Newman of Caltech, another of the world's major research centres, said the achievement boosted hopes that systems operating at 10 gigabits per second "will be commonplace in the relatively near future."
CMDRTACO CHECK YOUR EMAIL!
It's Gbps. Yes, it's only 5.44 times faster than Gigabit ethernet, but did you read about the DISTANCE this was over? Beats any 1 or 10 Gig ethernet I know of!
I could download every CD on the billboard top 100 list
But.. would you want to?
Trolling is a art,
yes, but how long would it take them to send a library of congress across a football field?
So this other related recent accomplishment must just be chopped liver at only 6.8 Gbps, then?
"Provided by the management for your protection."
Im interested - what do the people who do these record attempts send? is it specially formed test-data to analyse packet errors or do they all sit down and make a list of the porn and warez they want from geniva?
This comment does not represent the views or opinions of the user.
Ever think about SHARING?!
While these guys are transferring at 5+Gbps, I'm stuck at home with my 28.8k dialup (no cable/dsl here folks).
Just like the government studies that cost millions of dollars to figure out why mice will eat cardboard... I can put that stuff to USE other than breaking some damn record!
Yessss! Never again will I be fragged or kicked off the BF1942 servers because of high ping!
10 Bits= $.25
100 Bits= $.50
110 Bits= $.75
1000 Bits= 1 byte
And you know, this is just more justification for MPAA's ban on screeners. I mean, that's a full DVD every couple of seconds.
Umm, did I miss something in the Slashdot rules where special karma points are awarded for extreme retardedness?
If so then +5 to you, dude.
I garantee this service will not be anywhere NEAR where I live. How long 'till I can sing up for it?
more porn, here I come!! , oops, did I say that out loud?
Linux: Helping nerds look smarter since the late 90s.
Natalie Portman pics can it download in a second?
It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men. -Frederick Douglass
It would be a lot nicer if they had included some technical details on this. 10Gbps links are available, though not common. Indeed, they are presently improving the quality and price of 40Gbps equipment.
But, how does one drive the data at 5, 10 or 40 Gbps. These speeds are not a big deal for network switching gear but it is a big deal for a PC. The fastest PCI bus that I have seen maxes out a under 5Gbps and there aren't any disk drives that can offer that sort of throughput. Then one has to wonder how they got a 10Gbps trans-oceanic link. Who is the carrier?
... among sysadmins that translates roughly as "never underestimate the bandwidth of a crate of tapes in the back of a station wagon".
These CERN upstarts don't impress me much, I had and was using more capacity a decade ago!
...in a labratory just outside New Mexico
"1200 baud? Is that just a stunt, or does it actually have a practical application?"
Look hear, you bandwith-hogging, record-breaking herd of bristly swine, a guy should be able to stand outside your building with a wireless card, fire up a packet sniffer, and not get his favorite pair of pants ruined because his laptop melted. OK? You'll be hearing from my dry cleaner.
They transmitted only zeros.
-- Repeat with me: "There is no right to profits".
The original press release is here.
Is TCP's performance really that poor? Some UDT presentations quote 2.4 MBytes per second. Over a low-latency WAN (few dozen milliseconds), performance is actually quite good, and sometimes, it used to be faster to fetch a file from a site a few hundred kilometers way than from the local FTP server (although the latter was connected to the LAN using a 100 MBit link).
Remember the dynamic storage paper, which postulated that common web protocols could be used to encode small, transitory amounts of data? With this sort of bandwidth, it's possible that you could drastically parallelize the data storage--and since your latency is very very low, that data could be "refreshed" and held for longer periods or time. How practical do you think that would be?
Elliott C. Back
It's time to face facts. "Broadband" isn't, and won't be, until we're at least at the 1 Gbit/s rate to the home. In fact, with gigabit cards starting to become affordable, and with home networks on the rise, a gigabit link to the house may not be fast enough in only a few years.
Running a modern PC over so-called broadband networks is like towing a Ferrari F1 car using a couple of Shire horses. Sure, it "works"...
For the money so far spent on rebuilding Iraq, the US Government could have built a network of 2 terabit lines between every pair of States in the US, installed the clusters of routers needed to handle the load, and provided lines to every carrier of Internet and phone traffic in the country. They'd probably still have cash left over.
This isn't to say we shouldn't rebuild Iraq. This is very much to say that if organizations and Governments can throw that kind of cash around as though it were spare change, then I'd really like to see some serious infrastructure upgrades in a certain country whose economy and security both need those upgrades to take placed.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
cat /dev/zero > /dev/eth0
Just, you know, cite me when you submit your findings to the IEEE or the ACM.
"These people look deep within my soul and assign me a number based on the order in which I joined" --Homer re:
Basically they showed that conventional TCP is not very good at scaling to large flows like the ones in the article. He described a typical broadband Internet connection as being able to utilize only about 27 percent of the available bandwidth, while their modified FAST TCP connection reached 95 percent efficiency. He had some nice test results showing how the protocols reacted to having to share bandwidth with other flows, and pointed out how when other flows finished and more bandwidth opened up, conventional TCP was very slow to take advantage of the increased bandwidth.
There's an older Economist article describing the protocol in more detail for those who are interested.
The bold print giveth, and the fine print taketh away
Sure it can transmit that fast, but can they actually process the data at that speed?
When can they wire one of those up to my house?
That oughtta get some great pings to game servers, even while I'm downloading stuff on another computer.
WAREZ!
> ... full length music CD ... ... every CD on the billboard top 100 ...
>
So we're talking about 50 seconds of downloads?
5.44 Gbps is nothing. I recently took a box with about 300 CDs in it to my neighbors place. It took about 10 seconds to walk there, giving me a throughput of (650MB * 300 * 8) / 10s = 156 Gbps.
"People that quote themselves in their signatures bother me" - athakur999
>Using current technology, a DVD -- or digital video disc -- film of some 90 minutes length takes some 15 minutes to download from the Internet. Your kidding right?
Hacking the Network
For everybode with their RIAA jokes, i guess this kind of work is used to pave the way to use the LHC.
With Petabytes of Data each year, a normal internetconnection simply doesnt cut it.
Want to give the data of a single experiment to some guys on the other side of the atlantic? Just send 100GB...
A multi-petabyte storagenet like the proposed storagetank does only make sense if the infrastucture allows to actually transfer the data with such speed.
HI O WISE PRINCE. WHT TOOK U SO DAM LONG?
A 747 has a cargo of 232,000lbs
Assuming DVD is 4.7GB, ~ 1lb
232,000 DVD's is 1,090,400GB
Speed of 570 miles/hour
Distance is 5700 miles (Berlin to LA, so close)
10 hours of flight time
109,040GB/hour
1817GB/minute
30GB/second
the 747 still wins (not counting loading and fueling times)
I am no hard drive expert, but even on my 15K RPM scsi drives, I am not sure I could write 1 terabyte in 30 minutes. What are they doing with the data on the other end?
You forget the overhead required to generate the payload - packing and unpacking all those DVDs would take a LONG time.
To make laws that man cannot, and will not obey, serves to bring all law into contempt.
--E.C. Stanton
...no one can hear your data scream.
Err
"1.1 Terabytes of data at a rate of 5.44 Gbps."
If you read the article you'd know they didn't transfer 1.1 Terabytes in 40 seconds. (Roughly - 1Terabyte every 8sec * 5 Terabytes)
"The European Organisation for Nuclear Research, CERN, said the feat, doubling the previous top speed, was achieved in a nearly 30-minute transmission over 7,000 kms of network between Geneva and a partner body in California. "
"I can't give you a brain, so I'll give you a diploma" - The Great Oz (blatently stolen sig)
Cop:Sir, do you know how fast you were going?
User:Ummm, I'm not sure my speedometer has started messing up. It felt like I was going about 256 Kbps.
Cop:No sir, I clocked you at 5.4 Gbps. Thats 20,000 times the speed limit. You blew past me like I was in reverse.
User:Gee, officer it must be this new European packet switching system I've added to my cable modem.
Cop:Tell it to the Judge. MAC and IP adddress please...
If it was point to point, I'm not as impressed as I would be if they had layer 3 routers along the way.
Anyone know?
"I can't give you a brain, so I'll give you a diploma" - The Great Oz (blatently stolen sig)
Be afraid. Be VERY afraid...
Last week I have been to cern (I am a physics student at the university of karlsruhe) for a two day visit. We have been in the server "room", pardon, hall is the better word. It is filled with hundreds of standard Intel PCs equipped with some Athlon CPU and Redhat-Linux, all interconnected to a big computing grid. Cern and several universities and science facilites (caltech, fermilab to name just two) all over the world are currently working on a big interconnected data storage and computing grid, which is supposed to work on the result data from the new LHC collider at Cern (LHC will be finished in 2006 or 7, I am not sure).
. ch/LCG/
Every physicist working on this giant project (somewhat multiple thounsand from all over the world) can login into this grid (which is btw. completely built with open source software!) and work on data which for example could be stored in a data centre in Japan. But the calculations would be done by some small cluster in Spain with some help from some other universities. This new grid software can provide data and computing power from all over the world, without any interaction from the user.
Very exciting and very impressive.
More Information can be found here:
http://www.eu-datagrid.org
http://lcg.web.cern
holy cow -- that many Gbps is faster than the time it takes your brain to determine whether you're looking at shot of tiffany vionette or a lactating naughty grandma!
https://www.accountkiller.com/removal-requested
It's hardly just to break the record. CERN will need that capacity when LHC goes online and begins to generate its petabytes of data that CERN needs to farm out to second- and third-tier computing centers.
To follow knowledge like a sinking star, / Beyond the utmost bound of human thought. ("Ulysses", Tennyson)
5.44 Gbps / 20,000 = 272 kbps is the average broadband connection according to this artical.
That's like an OC-96 or something, isn't it?
On how far your station wagon is going. Since CERN and Caltech are, oh, approximately 10,000 miles apart, it would take your station wagon a good, long time to cover that distance, so I hope you have some dense media to make up for it.
To follow knowledge like a sinking star, / Beyond the utmost bound of human thought. ("Ulysses", Tennyson)
Yes, I thought I remembered the 'net feeling particulary sluggish around 1 Oct.
UPS of Fedex for axample. Imagine a truck full of DVD's or whatever medium. You can get next day delivery from Geneva to LA or whatever the place. Do the Math. Let's say this truck can hold 100 000 DVDs. That equals 900 000 GB of DATA (using double density discs). That equals to 900 Terabytes or 0.9 petabytes. Anyway let's say it takes 24 hours to send across the globe (I'm not even considering taking the plane right away and flying 14 hours to LA) This would give us a Transfer rate of 900 000 / (24*60*60)=10.41 GB/sec. Yup that's right you've doubled the bandwith using good old planes and trains (you name it) The cost? Probably too much for the average joe. However I'm curious to know what the rent on that 5.44 Gbps is for 24 hours, probably more. Also Imagine if you had to set up such a transfer, the kind of machines you would need and their price. I'll go with FedEX for my data Transmission. Olivier
Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity
i love their headline:
Two major scientific research centres said on Wednesday they had set a new world speed record for sending data across the Internet, equivalent to transferring a full-length DVD film in seven seconds.
they obviously know what the future of the internet is all about!!
R.I.P.
Now they can actually keep up with downloading required Windows patches.
You know what?
Did a quick search of Caltech's home page ("5.4" search string) and came up with this article. http://pr.caltech.edu/media/Press_Releases/PR12356 .html
Note the date 3/18/03. But their press-release is alittle more informative.
They were testing their own "FAST" technology (Fast AQM Scalable TCP). Related link
http://netlab.caltech.edu/FAST/
Now tell me what it all means ;)
I just want SDSL at home...
Ian Murren
Imagine a beowulf cluster of these !!
loading a vw each time is likely to remain fairly consistent.
I broke my own record by eating 15 hamburgers today.
I don't want to be here.
Using current technology, a DVD -- or digital video disc -- film of some 90 minutes length takes some 15 minutes to download from the Internet.
welcome our new terabyte downloading overlords!
across 7000km.
There are cable-laying ships laying cables in all the seas out there to make distance carriers rich. Each cable is a big bundle of optic fibres carrying ip over ATM traffic between juniper routers. Each cable also carries somewhere between an OC-48 to OC192 traffic. This really makes me wonder:
(1) Why is 5gbps a record? Why is it not possible to connect OC48-supporting ATM or FDDI PCI-64 cards on both ends to servers and then mirror some important servers carrying all the free OSes (like ibiblio.org) to countries out there? Take the PCI-64 bandwidth, take the CPU FSB and SCSI disk write sustained speed (for strip-RAIDed 15k cheetahs or at least terabytes of RAM, take the bandwidth including the ATM overhead and you have an enormous bandwidth out there.
(2) Why DSL connections in Toronto cost so much? How expensive is it anyway to lay a thick bundle of fibre cables (200 fibres in each), OC-192 in each fibre between North American and European cities? Now divide all that bandwidth between all the DSL users and include the costs of laying cables, nontechnical tech support, automated phone menu systems, ip port blocking and other RIAA software and many copies of windows2000 servers, it should still be really cheap for us.
"Give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you." -Nim Chimpsky
I can't comprehend 2000x more bandwith than my current connection because it is so vague.
Could you include something meaningful, such as how fast the entire Library of Congress can be transmitted through it?
Thank you for helping me understand this.
The problem is that these transfers were not done using general purpose protocols. They are all highly tweaked protocols, even if TCP/IP, that are customized to the hardware and pipes the data will transfer over. This will never be feasible for a home user. It's all just for show, it's not practical.
"Not knowing when the dawn will come, I open every door." - Emily Dickinson
University of Illinois at Chicago was able to achieve 6.8Gb/s a few days ago using the UDT protocol .... http://www.ncdm.uic.edu/pressrelease.html
This was a transfer from Switzerland to California. That 7000Km or about 4300 miles. If you loaded a truck with dvd going 60 mph (this is a magic truck that can float on water with a top speed of only go 60mph and does not stop for fuel, bath room breaks, sleep, or heards of cattle) it would take 71.6 hours, or 257,760 seconds. At that rate it would take 38,833 DVD's to equal the amount of time that could be transfered. But how large is 38,833 DVD's? I don't have a DVD to measure and I'm too lazy to look it up, so I'll guess 5*8*1/2 inches, or 20 cubic inches. So that makes it about 750,000 cubic inches.
Ok so how big is a truck? The largest trailer on US highways are 100x110x636 inches, or about 7,000,000 cubic inches, 4,050 cubic foot. That's mean the 53 foot long trailer can hold about 350,000 DVD's, or is 9.3 times faster then the super fast internet connection.
But we haven't covered air lifting DVD's! A 747-400 a 25,952 cubic foot cargo hold and can get to Cali in 11 hours. That's 2,250,000 million DVD'S at a rate of 57 DVD's a second!! That means sending DVD's by 747's it's 400 times faster then the faster internet connection!!
Clearly this is about sending digtal information, not sending DVD's.
The journey is better then the end.
747-400ER can carry 270,000lbs - source here :)
Where do I sign up? Speakeasy going to be offering this next month? :)
From the UIC website www.uic.edu
UIC Computer Center Sets Trans-Atlantic Speed Record for Data Transfer
Researchers at the University of Illinois at Chicago set a new milestone last Friday (Oct. 10) in trans-Atlantic data transmission, demonstrating the practicality of transferring very large data sets over high-speed networks.
UIC's National Center for Data Mining (NCDM) and Laboratory for Advanced Computing flashed a set of astronomy data from Chicago to Amsterdam at 6.8 gigabits per second -- 6,800 times faster than the one-megabit per second speed used by most companies to connect to the Internet.
The test used Amsterdam's SURFnet and Chicago's Abilene networks.
During a 30 minute test, the researchers transmitted approximately 1.4 terabytes of data -- an amount which if printed on paper would fill two buildings the size of the Sears Tower. Using today's standard Internet protocol, the same data transfer would have taken 25 days.
TCP -- the network protocol commonly used today -- is not effective at moving large data sets over long distances, such as across an ocean. Researchers are looking at ways to improve TCP, find new protocols, or adopt other protocols.
Friday's text run used a newer network protocol developed by the NCDM called UDP-based Data Transport, or UDT. Unlike some other protocols now being studied for high-speed data transfer, UDP-based protocols can be used over today's Internet without making changes to the network infrastructure. Friday's demonstration showed that UDT could effectively coexist with thousands of other network connections.
Previous high-speed transfers of very large data sets used specialized research networks with data protocols that prevented other network traffic from sharing the same link.
Researchers at UIC and elsewhere have recently developed hybrid protocols based on UDP to improve its reliability and minimize data lost during high-speed transmission.
"We just finished our initial testing and analysis of the UDT protocol and found that with it, you can transfer large data sets over very busy international production networks safely," said Cees de Laat, a professor at the University of Amsterdam who visited UIC on Friday for the demonstration. "This remarkable achievement with the UDT protocol paves the way for trans-Atlantic data-intensive applications."
"Using UDT, it is now practical to move even very large data sets over very long distances," said Robert Grossman, director of UIC's National Center for Data Mining.
The demonstration was part of an ongoing international effort to find and test new ways of reliably moving massive data sets around the globe using advanced networks and new transfer protocols. Such systems hold enormous promise for advancing scientific research, in addition to many possible commercial applications.
For more information about UIC, visit www.uic.edu
Firehosegives you that power. FIREHOSE gives you a basic data transfer over multiple network devices supporting TCP/IP layers. Stripe multiple 100Mbit, Gigabit, 10 Gigabit, or firewire to give one humungous pipe for firehosing your gigabytes and gigabytes of data
"...the bandwidth of a station wagon loaded down with tape archives travelling across the desert at 60mph."
I guess that's getting outdated, now?
hm...or is hard drive/storage capacity keeping up with it (OK, so buy a newer car than a wagon, too)
I'm far too lazy to do the calculations, though. Should we move to Lear jets and DVD-Rs? Or Segways and alpha IBM technology?
Returned Peace Corps IT Volunteer
and how much porn is 1.1 tetrabyte? *smile*
- "1.1 Terabytes of data at a rate of 5.44 Gbps."
Does anyone have a bit torrent link to that file?http://www.kubuntu.org/
"I developed a program that downloads porn off the internet one million times faster." - Nerd "Does anybody need that much prono?" - Marge "*drools*one million times." -Homer
lots and lots of porn!
"You're on my side and the dark side, like Lando Calrissian?" --Gimpy, Undergrads
Why don't you just buy a 56k modem? You'll see speeds improve a lot and they only cost, what? 10 bucks new?
Knowing that, and knowing dial up is restricted to ONLY 56k, I really can't feel that badly for you.
Etiquette is etiquette. He kills his mother but he can't wear grey trousers.
My newsgroup download speed is 2.8 megabits/sec or 0.35 megabytes/sec if the overhead is ignored. I consider this an extremely fast broadband connection.
Now, a 60 minute CD should occupy 525meg. A 525meg download at 0.35 megabytes/sec should take 1500 seconds or 25 minutes. -- Thats a lot longer than 8 minutes stated in the article for a typical home broadband connection.
I wish they could improve lag by such a factor :P
Lag (>300ms) is mostly annoying real time distributed systems like online multiplayer games or voice over IP.
It only sounds confusing because of the mixed up terms people are using.
"Burstable" refers to the internet gateway, and how much traffic is permitted, or to the way billing is calculated.. not to any physical property of the T1.
A t1 Is 1.544Mbps. It's a synchronous serial line. It's not fasetr than that, it's not slower than that.. it's clock rate stays the same, all the time. The only reason we talk about T1s is because, in the olden days, it was one of the first reliable digital high speed services you could get from a telephone company.
When you set up a T1, that involves certain guarantees of line quality, and you are guaranteed 1.544Mbps across the line at ALL times. You don't worry "Is our T1 giving us full bandwidth" . That's why they are more pouplar with commercial systems.. because there are some guarantees. Not about internet bandwidht, but about point ot point bandiwdth.
ADSL, on the other hand, is dynamic, but it runs over variable quality lines, like what you have at home. The only reason ADSL is cheaper is because of the target mass-market... it's actually MORE sophisticated, not less. T1 gear is more expensive, because it has a much smaller market. Also, the telco has to run new wire to your house to give you a T1, and has to have dedicated wire across the city to get it to you... ADSL works over standard phone copper.
As for "overselling".. this is kind of a myth too... we are talking about packet switched network.. they are MADE to be oversold.. otherwise we wouldnt' be using packet switching, we'd be using circuit switched stuff still. Buying a T1 means buying a T1 to your ISP, not buying 1.544Mbps of gateway traffic from them.. that's another matter entirely.
I guess what I'm saying is the internet will ALWAYS be "oversold".. that's in it's nature. You are correct, though, bandwidth needs to increase... faster connecst to telcos, faster connects between ISPS, faster infrastructure at isps..
If this comes out websites will be immune to slashdot!!!!!
Doctors do Massage in Longview WA now, who knew?
I thought my one megibte connection was fast!
I did a quick check with old Maple 8, and it told me the answer is 1232.717832. So there ya go. Glad to be of service to ya buddy.
A man walks into a bar. The bartender says, "What is this, some kind of joke?"
Even brilliant researchers wish they could get it faster....
Where did you get the # 200 from? The largest, fastest undersea cable projects have far, far less than that.
FLAG, for instance, has 2 pairs of fiber, and runs at 5.6Gbps.
This is a record for internet transmission, not data transmission.
What is this "Internet Speed Record"?
Aren't there any distance requirements or anything?
????
So if I buy 20 machines able to fill their Gig-E cards, and then use 10 of them to transfer pr0n to the other 10 at ~7-8gbps, with one of them being connected to the Internet, does that mean I have just "broken the Internet speed record"?
Yeesh- my experience shows that on a worldwide level, to the edge routers, you can expect to average out at about 2mbps.
I browse at +5 Flamebait- moderation for all or moderation for none.
The grandparent poster doesn't seem to realize that local network speeds and global transit speeds are totally different beasts...
Gigabit ethernet has about as much to do with trans-atlantic links as it does with a local CPU bus... all three transmit data, but the parameters are totally different.
UIC's National Center for Data Mining (NCDM) and Laboratory for Advanced Computing flashed a set of astronomy data from Chicago to Amsterdam at 6.8 gigabits per second
and
The test used Amsterdam's SURFnet and Chicago's Abilene networks. During a 30 minute test, the researchers transmitted approximately 1.4 terabytes of data
No electrons were harmed creating this post, though some may have been subjected to electrical and/or magnetic fields.
This speed has already been surpassed as of the 10th of October.
Computer Center Sets Trans-Atlantic Speed Record For Data Transfer
CA*Net 3 supposedly operates at up to 40Gbps, with CA*Net 4 under development which should be four to eight times faster. It's not clear, however, whether this is an aggregate data rate or if it can be sustained on a single connection.
:)
Regardless, we'll eventually have Tbps data rates and all this will be a moot point. I only hope that a spammer doesn't manage to get one of those connections. How many viagra and penis spams per second is that?
Want to improve your Karma? Instead of "Post Anonymously", try the "Post Humously" option.
Hot DAMN!! Pr0n at warp speed!!!! :D
What the article did not say was whether that was the same "Internet" we all use, or a specially built edge network.
I assume that by Internet they mean IP-based (possibly not even reguler TCP/IP), on what's basicly a separate network. Kinda like how you would clear a street for a record attempt, even though it's still a "normal" street and not a depressurized tunnel.
Kjella
Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
That is where all my bandwidth has gone. I don't know about you all but my internet has been turd slow for about the last week.
If you don't like what I write don't be a CS and mod it down. Refute it.
Yea I can't spell. So what is your point?
It's THROUGHPUT. It might be 5.44 Gbps but it might have a terrible ping time, and therefore very SLOW.
I've designed a program that makes downloading of internet porn 1 Million times faster! n3rd drools
Even if you did, I'm sure you'd have 100 others. But when would you find the time to listen to them? In the end, that's the only limit most people will hit. What good is it to have or download data that you never see or listen to?
Kjella
Live today, because you never know what tomorrow brings
Is there/should there be a moore's law like thing for bandwidth?
____
Got Wang?
Where the Big when bigger
Only 544 seconds to load this article. Expect to reach four-digits soon :-)
Well, is it faster than a jumbojet loaded with DVD's?
"5.44 Gbps" how much is that in megabytes pr second?
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
1. File swapper: Will I be able to get my music faster?
2. Movie buff: Will I be able to get my movies faster?
3. Spammer: Will I be able to spam more people?
4. Consumer: Will I be able to surf the net faster?
5. RIAA: Shit!
6. MPAA: Shit!
The race isn't always to the swift... but that's the way to bet!
5.44 gigabits to megabytes
:o)
Thanks to the google bar in firebird I don't need a calculator anymore!
I am NaN
According to CNN, you can already download a DVD in 15 minutes. Thats 4.7*1024=4812.8 Meg (for a single-layer disc) in 15 minutes, or 320 Meg/min. I want that connection!
is wether they used a single connection or they split the file in say 20,000 parts and used 20,000 connections simultaniously
If enithin kan gow rong it whil. (Murfey)
Dude, for the moment I'll disregard that you're an MIT pansy. But beyond that, everyone knows it's Caltech, not CalTech. CalTech is like some technical school downtown. Caltech is the world's #1 playground for math and science.
Well, info from a neighbor on the same Metro Area Network.
Within the past couple or so weeks CalTech has moved their network connection onto the new 10Gbps
CalREN network. (from the older CalREN T-XXX / OC-XXX network).
http://www.cenic.org/CalREN/index.html
CalREN plans to bring 1Gbps to every California educational institution.
http://www.cenic.org/GB/gartner/index.htm
There is now a network up and down the west coast providing fiber DWM connections to educational institutions. This is routed up and down the coast by 10Gbps core routers giving kick-ass speed.
This western optical leg will eventually connect to the National Light Rail (NLR) to provide a loop around the US.
This is the Internet2 killer app. Providing bandwidth for the future and the possibility of creating end-to-end lambda channels between members for advanced research.
http://news.com.com/2100-1034_3-5092064.html?tag=n efd_top
--"This is more than 20,000 times faster than a typical home broadband connection and is also equivalent to transferring a 60-minute compact disc within one second--an operation that takes about eight minutes over a standard broadband connection. "--
ok, so, how many seconds are in 8 minutes?
you'd think, 20,000? no?
to be accurate, wouldn't it have to be .024 seconds?
within
every day http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random
I originally saw this on Yahoo, where the title of the article is "New Internet Speed Record Set by Euro - U.S. Labs". Am I the only one who thought, "What does the Euro currency have to do with Internet speed?" (yes, before I read the article).
So that's why I'm having so much packet loss, these jackasses are hammering the backbones with 1.1 terbytes of data. assholes, save some bandwidth for the rest of the internet.
My question is: did the data arrive safely? To burst data in high speed is one thing, to make the data actually arrive OK is something completely different.
GAAH! MY PRINTER IS ON FIRE!!! PUT IT OUT! PUT IT OUT!
To win a Landspeed Record (that is what we're talking about), you do not to get just a high bandwidth, but you got to have a high bandwidth across a big distance.
;-) ).
That's why the parameter you need to blow is "megabit-meters/second", not just megabit/second. At least that's what it says on the award I'm just holding in my hand (one of the older awards which was already shattered to pieces previous year
All these internet speed records only highlight how slow my own connection is. When are these going to have some impact on my link to the internet?
-Rich
CNN is reporting that researchers at Caltech and CERN successfully send 1.1 Terabytes of data at a rate of 5.44 Gbps.
"Update: Ten minutes after this story broke on the popular geek website 'Slashdot', the transfer rate dropped to 300 baud."