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World Cyber Games 2003 Results

jester42 writes "The quasi-olympics in eSports just took place this last weekend in Seoul, Korea. 600 players from 55 nations competed in 8 different games to find both best players and best nations. The results of each game, and a medal tally can be found at the WCG website. Germany got the title of best nation, ahead of Chinese Taipei and Korea. The World Cyber Games are held every year, and national qualifications are followed by a final. Next year's final will be hosted by San Francisco, and will be the first time the WCG finals take place outside Asia."

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  1. Warning: guzzling cum may result in death by (TK5)Dessimat0r · · Score: -1

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  2. I don't get it. by Quasar1999 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why isn't this an olympic sport yet?

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    1. Re:I don't get it. by DrEldarion · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah, I can just see watching UT2k3 matches on TV. Espeically in the face of all the "VIOLENT GAMES ARE BAD" soccer moms...

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    2. Re:I don't get it. by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 2, Funny

      Because video games aren't REAL sports like Ballroom Dancing and Synchronized Swimming.

      -Barry

    3. Re:I don't get it. by zapp · · Score: 1

      Because video games are not a sport. The olympics are a celebration of the world's finest athletes, of people who push the capabilities of the human form to their farthest.

      I highly doubt 72 straight hours of Everquest counts. nor does 20 headshots in a row. However, being grossly obese does push the human form... maybe being fat should be an olympic sport? America would have that one down pat.

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    4. Re:I don't get it. by shogun · · Score: 1

      One factor that will be limiting the growth of computer gaming as a olympic class sport is the continuous changes in the field. A game that will be really big one year with all the top players in it will becomes yesterday's game in just a few months, just about when the maintstream starts to learn about it and possibly become interested.

    5. Re:I don't get it. by cmacb · · Score: 1

      World Cyber Games?

      I'm not about to read the article and spoil my imagination about what this might involve. I'm sure it should be X-rated though.

    6. Re:I don't get it. by MatthewNewberg · · Score: 1

      There are a bunch of crazy rules and polocies for a sport to become a part of the olympics... Take a look at this for some info. http://inlineskating.about.com/library/weekly/aa01 0904.htm This has some info, but I believe there is more requirements, there just isn't any info on it. Who knows what will happen..

    7. Re:I don't get it. by NevermindPhreak · · Score: 1

      how in-shape do you have to be for curling, shooting, or archery? granted, i dont think counter-strike should be an olympic sport. but, if they could create a first-person shooter that were similar to counter-strike, and the gameplay itself stayed the same even with things like graphics-increases (good open-source project, i imagine), then i think it should deserve the same coverage as something like bowling or billards.

  3. Linux : Penguin Sex howto (Socre:5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Ted and David made their way into the lab where the animal experiments were conducted. A cute, fuzzy penguin had caught their eye...

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    Then with a look of extreme satisfaction, both David and Ted lit up some smokes, gathered their belongings and quietly left the hospital ground.

  4. Now I've got it!! by gsparrow · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I need to be compensated for all the time I spend playing video games.

  5. Wouldn't you rather play with... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    How can people say BSD is dying when it has a mascot like this?! Linux needs to get its act together if it's going to compete with the kind of hot chicks and gorgeous babes that BSD has to offer!

    You just can't take Linux seriously when its fronted by losers like these. Would you buy software from them? I don't think so! You Linux groupies need to find some sexy girls like her! I mean just look at this girl! Doesn't she excite you? I know this little hottie puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox. As you can see, no man can resist this sexy little minx. I mean are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass?!

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  6. 0 posts and slashdotted by BizidyDizidy · · Score: 0

    They never saw it coming. Here's a google cache.

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  7. mouse slaughter by cribb · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    when they include xbill as a discipline i will take part, provided, ofcourse, that the first prize is a mouse.

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  8. imagine what gym class will be like in the future by HBI · · Score: 1

    Get rid of the basketball court and the football field. Just have rows and rows of systems rigged up with FPS games.

    At least fewer people will be killed inadvertently the next time a Columbine happens. The kids will have better aim.

    On a more serious note, this is both interesting to me and disturbing at the same time. It's one of those things we probably should do something about, but won't.

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  9. My Report of a Slashdotting was premature by BizidyDizidy · · Score: 1

    Sorry about that. DON'T MOD PARENT UP! I could've sworn it didn't load right for me the first time....

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  10. Nominations by GerbilSocks · · Score: 0

    I nominate Thrash to participate.. who's with me?

    1. Re:Nominations by spydir31 · · Score: 1

      I'd try Thresh instead.

    2. Re:Nominations by GerbilSocks · · Score: 0

      LOL him too..

  11. Game replay downloads? by cioxx · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder if the tournament downloads, specifically Unreal Tournament 2003 recorded matches are available for download. It'd be interesting to watch.

    Does anyone know where to get these files?

    1. Re:Game replay downloads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Nevermind. Found them here. I should RTFS more carefully.

    2. Re:Game replay downloads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      gotfrag.com has Counter-Strike demos (not "replays") as well as a couple of WC3 ones, don't know about UT.

      About the tournament: there was some drama, including a mass fight Russians vs. French in the hotel, a disqualification of a 13-year old Halo(?) player for using a timer, and disputes about using flashbang bugs in CS that blind an entire team when thrown into a bugged map area - American Team3D used one in de_aztec, but it was legal according to WCG rules (the team leader is a would-be lawyer), whereas the Brazilian mibr lost a match due to using one twice on de_nuke. Also, a British Age of Mythology player (along with someone else) was disqualified for sexually harassing tournament officials - they passed suggestive notes to the girls serving free drinks. This despite the UK team leader coming up with an ingenious ploy to claim that the player was gay.. he didn't go for it, out of fear of rumors.

      Anyway, the biggest match was 3D vs. Schroet Kommando of Sweden in the Counter-Strike finals, the Swedes won two maps needed (de_dust2 and de_train) to take the Gold. A predictable result, SK is generally considered to be the best team in the world even if 3D has the most popular player, Kyle "ksharp" Miller! 3

    3. Re:Game replay downloads? by coene · · Score: 1

      www.gotfrag.com

      Has most all of the demos from the Counter-Strike tournament.

    4. Re:Game replay downloads? by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1
      a disqualification of a 13-year old Halo(?) player for using a timer

      A timer for what?

    5. Re:Game replay downloads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't quite know how it works, but evidently a timer (presumably a physical device seeing how the PCs are locked down) helps a player be in the rights spots when powerups respawn. This is obviously not an issue in CS, but from I gather powerup timing is a major factor in other FPS games.

    6. Re:Game replay downloads? by dnoyeb · · Score: 1

      well the Starcraft games were available for download rignt on the olympics site. i watched them. I was not impressed. Probably good players, but not very good matches.

    7. Re:Game replay downloads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.esreality.com
      http://www.xtremeclan.nl

      for ut2k3

    8. Re:Game replay downloads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Though I dont know for certain, it was probably for timing the respawn of various weapons/power ups in the game. For instance if the active camoflauge power up respawns every minute and a half then he knows that when his alarm is going off that he should be at that part of the map to collect it.

    9. Re:Game replay downloads? by IA-Outdoors · · Score: 1

      What? The French fought? Sorry, cheap stab at the french, I know.

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    10. Re:Game replay downloads? by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1
      Though I dont know for certain, it was probably for timing the respawn of various weapons/power ups in the game.

      Thanks, makes sense. I can't believe I never thought of it :-)

  12. WTF, "Chinese Taipei"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's wrong with calling it Taiwan? Afraid of the Chinese communists?

    1. Re:WTF, "Chinese Taipei"? by netsharc · · Score: 1

      Indeed, it's a political thing. Some countries want to be on good terms with the People's Republic of China, so they don't officially recognize Taiwan. Even the US government belongs to this group, there are no official diplomatic relations between the two countries (see CIA factbook entry). The topic came up once during the Clinton Administration, because the US wanted to get China as their trade partner they had to be careful about Taiwan.

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    2. Re:WTF, "Chinese Taipei"? by mgs1000 · · Score: 1

      Actually, some Chinese cried like babies at the World Cyber Games a couple years ago when Taiwan's team had the audacity to actually call themselves Taiwanese

    3. Re:WTF, "Chinese Taipei"? by Sivaram_Velauthapill · · Score: 1

      Actually there are very few countries that recognize Taiwan. Other than USA and its proxies, I don't know who does. Taiwan isn't even in the UN (it has observer status though, I think). The Taiwan situation is weird. Technically it is not a seperate country but in reality it is.

      Sivaram Velauthapillai

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  13. The G5 adventure : part four. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After 12 years, the Linux zealot's ancient 386 machine gives up up the ghost! The machine went through alot, going through DOS 5.0, 6.0, Windows 3.11, Windows 95, Windows 98 and Debian gnu/Linux. It even had a Geforce 4 on it using a AGP to ISA converter.

    But now the machine was dead. So the Linux zealot decided to go to the local PC world to get a new machine.

    He decided to get a Athlon 3500+ Packard Bell, when all of a sudden he heard a giant DUNNNNNNNNNN! And behind him, was the largest cheese greater in the world! Behind him was this fat bearded geek with an Apple logo on his chest. He was an Apple zealot. Suddenly Linux zealot had a weired feeling as a Giant Titatainum X appeared on a huge LCD display.

    The titanium X span around a huge smiling blue face, while a cube appeared and rotated towards a desktop. The Apple Zealot started to talk about his Mac affection, and how he was going to buy a G5 to complete his collection, but the price, was almost 5,000 EUR, while the packard bell only costs 2000 EUR, and was noticbly faster. The spinning rainbow ball span for ages while it attempted to copy a 17 Mb mp3 file onto the zealot's iPOD. The Zealot said it was due to the fact that this machine was running the 68k version of OS X, and if you ran the G5 version it would only take two minutes, if that.

    Anyway, he decided to "convert" the linux zealot, so he offered to give him one of his Imacs for free Since Linux zealot dosen't have much money (Flipping burgers to pay the bills of developing gnome software!), he agreed to get a free computer (that is, if you can actually call macs a "real" computer). So the Mac zealot told Linux zealot to meet him at his house later on that afternoon.

    [ to be continued ]

  14. Boring selection of games by FunkSoulBrother · · Score: 1, Redundant

    3 RTS and 3 FPS... 1 Sports game. I'll admit to not knowing what "survival project" is.

    They need to round out the categories a bit more. Maybe a racing game, a fighter ala Street Fighter and its ilk.

    And of course they need some turn-based strategy in here. I'm probably just a big dork, but I'd rather slowly watch a 8 person multiplayer game of Civilization unfold than watch people frag each other OVER and OVER and OVER.

    What would you like to see in next years' games?

    1. Re:Boring selection of games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I'm probably just a big dork, but I'd rather slowly watch a 8 person multiplayer game of Civilization unfold than watch people frag each other OVER and OVER and OVER."

      Correct, you are a dork. Possibly also an ignorant commenter seeing as you appear to be oblivious to the strategies in a team-based goal-oriented FPS such as CS.

    2. Re:Boring selection of games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pot, you have a call from a "kettle" on line 5.

      Seems he's calling about being named "black".

      Anyways, it seems a lot of these events lacked "team-based" play at all, so your point is wrong, your opinion moot, and your face = the moon!

    3. Re:Boring selection of games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just as you would appear to be even more ignorant of the vastly superior opportunities for strategy in a game of Civ.

      I also thought there was far too little variety for an event trying to be an olympic-style competition. Where were the fighting games, racing games, puzzle games, TBS games? What about flight or space sims?

      FPSs and RTSs are fine, but they were severely over-represented.

    4. Re:Boring selection of games by trainwreck_ca · · Score: 1

      you say watching people frag each other over & over is boring? sounds to me like you dont really play cs or ut or quake, theres more to it than just fragging each other, theres strategy & set plays that come into it and fans of the game like to see new & improved strategies ^^

    5. Re:Boring selection of games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh dear, Civ has more strategy than CS? Oh my.

      Of course I compared it to other FPS games, tit. Also, where did you see any mention of Olympics in my post or the thread strating post?

    6. Re:Boring selection of games by N1KO · · Score: 1

      So instead of watching people frag each other over and over, you get to watch people camp over and over.

      There are team based fps' that require strategy (such as qwtf), most don't.

    7. Re:Boring selection of games by Epistax · · Score: 1

      A game like civilization may be possible using a scoring system and a limited about of time. An 8 person game could take days straight, no rest.

      A game like Street Fighter, I'm sorry to say, does not have much in the skill department. You anticipate the move by your opponent, and do the designated counter move. You do a move, your opponent counters, etc. It may be key-mashing controller-breaking fun, but the outcome won't be too different than the international rock paper scissors competition. Either you're good, or you're not.

    8. Re:Boring selection of games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, every FPS, team or otherwise, requires strategy.

    9. Re:Boring selection of games by Pxtl · · Score: 1

      Actually, it has a great deal in the skill department - it takes a lot of practice to memorize every single combo for every single player and the proper reaction to each.

      Of course, that says nothing about how little brains it takes. I could teach a team of cockroaches to play SF.

    10. Re:Boring selection of games by Pxtl · · Score: 1

      I agree - WC3 should not be there - StarCraft is still a far more popular game except in the US. Still, you show ignorance when you bash FPS games for simplicity. While Halo is a pretty standard fare (CTF and vehicles) UT2k3 and Counter Strike are not. Personally, I think CS is an abominable game - if it weren't for team strategy in good clans, it would be unplayable IMHO - but some people are willing to look past the aweful mechanics in favour of the realism (?) money, and clannishness.

      Really, the Quake titles have always been the mindless twitch action games that give the more intricate FPS games a bad rep.

      And why was Total Annihilation not there? That is one game that was meant to be an olympic game. While it doesn't have the polish of the Blizzard titles, its play balance and raw intricity of play is unparalleled - that and there's nothing like watching a large-scale war unfold.

      IMHO, games that should have been added: Need For Speed (whichever the newest one). Total Annihilation, some sort of Instagib FPS (for raw, unparalleled twitch action).

    11. Re:Boring selection of games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh dear, Civ has more strategy than CS? Oh my.

      Not sure what you hoped to achieve with this waste of space. It's not clear whether you're conceding the point or trying to be sarcastic.

      Of course I compared it to other FPS games

      Um, what? You didn't compare it to squat, with the possible exception of Civ.

      Also, where did you see any mention of Olympics in my post or the thread strating post?

      I think you should learn to read. When you think about telling me you already can, I'd point out that comprehension is a big part of that.

    12. Re:Boring selection of games by vandemar · · Score: 1

      A game like Street Fighter, I'm sorry to say, does not have much in the skill department. You anticipate the move by your opponent, and do the designated counter move. You do a move, your opponent counters, etc.

      You could say the same about tennis, chess, or any game of "skill". If you take the time to get past the button-mashing phase of Street Fighter, you will find that it has much depth.

      So you anticipate your opponent's move to throw a fireball, and you jump over it to land your massive combo. But he has read you and was faking you out. He only wanted you to think he was going to throw the fireball. So now you're floating down from your jump... right into his 28-hit anti-air super combo.

      And it doesn't stop at the mind games. Positioning really counts. Get yourself backed into the corner and you have a big disadvantage. Let Zangief close in on you, or score a knock-down hit, and it could be all over. And don't forget to manage your power bar. A charged bar could mean the difference between defeat and making a comeback victory from 2% life left.

    13. Re:Boring selection of games by DAldredge · · Score: 1

      Please leave SCO's lawyers out of this!

    14. Re:Boring selection of games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      right. sorry, but I could have a small animal pee on a controller causing a short out that beats anyone at any street fighterish game. good ol' mash fest.

    15. Re:Boring selection of games by Sivaram_Velauthapill · · Score: 1

      Total Annihilation? Man you must be old (well so am I :) )... TA just never gained popularity so I doubt it was ever considered... I haven't been into gaming recently but the only RTS game to be worthy is Starcraft. I really haven't played Warcraft III (except a bit here and there) but I don't think it belongs there...

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    16. Re:Boring selection of games by demonbug · · Score: 1
      IMHO, games that should have been added: Need For Speed (whichever the newest one). Total Annihilation, some sort of Instagib FPS (for raw, unparalleled twitch action).


      I disagree with NFS. If you are going to put in a racing game, at least make it a more sim-based one rather than arcade (EA took a step in the right direction with NFS: Porsche Unleashed, but then went back to pure arcadiness with Hot Pursuit 2). How about F1 Challenge (which I hear is good, though I have never played) or even Grand Prix Legends. Games that take real skill rather than just twitch fests with car graphics. Hell, even Gran Turismo 3 would be a hell of a lot of fun (although I think you would be limited to head to head play).
      Total Annihilation does kick Starcraft's ass though, I have to agree with that.

    17. Re:Boring selection of games by kabocox · · Score: 1

      You do a move, your opponent counters, etc. It may be key-mashing controller-breaking fun, but the outcome won't be too different than the international rock paper scissors competition. Either you're good, or you're not.

      I'd like to know how that is different from any other sport?

  15. Guh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whoever wrote those interviews with players in the WCG must be severely English impaired... It was like reading English written by someone who ran text through an online translator...

  16. Korea's starcraft qualifiers were run poorly by TheCage · · Score: 3, Informative

    There is no doubt that korea is still the best gaming nation. Foreign nations were able to take 2nd (Germany) and 3rd (Canada) because of korea's bad organization. First off, they denied the two-time defending champion (Lim Yo Hwan, Slayers_`Boxer`) an automatic bid, which they had given him previously. They then ran the qualifers as best-of-1 with no losers bracket. Because of this and inherent randomness/map imbalance, many of the favorites from korea were eliminated early and only one of the qualifing players was ranked in the top 10 in Korea. This allowed Germany to pick up some points in Starcraft that they wouldn't have won otherwise.

    1. Re:Korea's starcraft qualifiers were run poorly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Too bad it won't last for long once North Korea nukes their asses.

    2. Re:Korea's starcraft qualifiers were run poorly by jester42 · · Score: 1

      I think the real problem with Slayers_'Boxer" was that he was just too arrogant or too busy to just play the qualifiers.

    3. Re:Korea's starcraft qualifiers were run poorly by TheCage · · Score: 1

      I think the real problem with Slayers_'Boxer" was that he was just too arrogant or too busy to just play the qualifiers.

      I think he was protesting. But despite that the qualifers involved an online-ladder followed by LAN-based games, so it much more time consuming to qualify from Korea than any other country. Other countries either have prelim locations followed by a final (2 days) or online tournament (not a ladder!) followed by a tournament.

    4. Re:Korea's starcraft qualifiers were run poorly by jester42 · · Score: 1
      • I think he was protesting.
      True, true. And it's also true that the qualifiers there were harder or more time-consuming than in other countries. But IMO WCG is about fair play and everybody should be treated in the same way so why should some player get sent straight to the finals?
    5. Re:Korea's starcraft qualifiers were run poorly by sixide · · Score: 1

      Well, he's a champion more than once, and previous winners (used to?) get autoberths.

  17. Link between video games and violence? by nih · · Score: 0, Redundant

    http://www.cyberfight.org/site/news/19181/?PHPSESS ID=a768505d54ff319f2348e98ca3d31456 nope, there is however a link between ppl who play crap games and violence:/

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  18. Play-by-play by illuminata · · Score: 2, Funny

    Al Michaels: Wow, did you see how he clicked on that thingamabob, John? Such grace and finesse!

    John Madden: It's amazing what accuracy he has, Al. But, you know what? I have a pretty good idea of how he refined his wrist motion.

    Al Michaels: Ha ha ha. John, this is only network television, so we're treading on thin ice. But with 28 years of practice, it's no wonder why he is just so good. Now, let's join Lisa Guerrero with the Nerd Alert.

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  19. Demos/recorded games here! by Daath · · Score: 1

    There are demos available on SoGamed's demo section - it's pretty slow right now though...

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  20. questionable contest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Ok, the format of this contest was really questionable. First lets look at the games:

    Age of Mythology - This game has no business being in any tournament. It flat out sucks. Should be replaced by multiplayer Civilization.

    FIFA Soccer - Uh hello, in the US Madden on PS2 outsells like every crappy soccer game ever made for any system COMBINED. This is a clear example of anti-US bias.

    Counterstrike - AGREED. This is the #1 tournament game in the world. But why no team competition? CS requires teamwork more than almost any other game.

    StarCraft - SC is over 5 years old, and almost noone plays it anymore. It has no business being in this tournament. Big suprise, the Koreans won this event, I heard this game is HUGE over there. This event was obviously just thrown in to give Korea a free event.

    UT2003 - This game sucks, it has no business being here, period.

    Warcraft 3 - No complaints.

    Halo - The anti-US bias here is CLEAR. The US would have taken this event hands down because X-Box is far more popular in the US than anywhere else. But for some reason there was no team event? So Korea gets its free gold event, but the US doesn't. That sure seems fair.

    Survival - I've never even heard of this game, it obviously isn't big in the US. Probably popular in the Asian countries. MORE ANTI-US BIAS.

    Also, look at the competetors for the US. WHERE WAS THRESH? He could have smoked any of those chump UT, CS or Halo players with one hand. Why didn't he compete?

    Obviously this tournament is somehting of a joke. If they want to have a serious tournament next year then they should bring in REAL games that REAL people play, quit hating on the USA, and bring in the BEST PLAYERS from all the countries.

    1. Re:questionable contest... by cioxx · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Counterstrike - AGREED. This is the #1 tournament game in the world. But why no team competition? CS requires teamwork more than almost any other game.


      What do you mean? It was a team competition. The Swedish Team beat US in the Finals.
    2. Re:questionable contest... by jester42 · · Score: 1

      They decided to make CS a clan competition because like you said, teamwork is needed and it's easier to just take a working team than to train a national team. Plus they have that system of national qualifiers, so someone has to decide which players to send, so who should pick that team for each country? StarCraft is HUGE in Asia, especially in Korea.

    3. Re:questionable contest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hahaha stooopid ami - US people are not the "REAL" - you selfish ignorant prick

    4. Re:questionable contest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what the fuck do you mean no team competition in CS? Of course it was team based!

      Your accusations about anti-US bias are preposterous, for example I bet Survival Project was thrown in just as a promotion stunt for some Korean thing, didn't matter to anyone else. Having US handball ("football") would have been ridiculous pro-US bias, soccer is global.

      Your last paragraph was meaningless.

    5. Re:questionable contest... by BWJones · · Score: 2, Insightful

      FIFA Soccer - Uh hello, in the US Madden on PS2 outsells like every crappy soccer game ever made for any system COMBINED. This is a clear example of anti-US bias.

      Do do realize however, that soccer (Futbol, football etc...) is the single most popular sport in the world in terms of fans, televised audiences and participants. Guess what? NFL is not even second here. That honor would go to Formula One racing. NFL football, like Nascar racing is a uniquely American phenomenon that most of the rest of the world simply does not follow.

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    6. Re:questionable contest... by jester42 · · Score: 1
      • What do you mean? It was a team competition. The Swedish Team [worldcybergames.org] beat US in the Finals [worldcybergames.org].
      That's not quite correct. It's more like A swedish clan (Sk.swe) beat A US clan (3d). In some of the other games they had more like national teams play each other. But just as I said in a previous post, it just made much more sense this way.
    7. Re:questionable contest... by TheCage · · Score: 1

      Halo - The anti-US bias here is CLEAR. The US would have taken this event hands down because X-Box is far more popular in the US than anywhere else. But for some reason there was no team event? So Korea gets its free gold event, but the US doesn't. That sure seems fair.

      US won Halo...

      Counterstrike - AGREED. This is the #1 tournament game in the world. But why no team competition? CS requires teamwork more than almost any other game.

      As mentioned previously, CS was a team competition.

      StarCraft - SC is over 5 years old, and almost noone plays it anymore. It has no business being in this tournament. Big suprise, the Koreans won this event, I heard this game is HUGE over there. This event was obviously just thrown in to give Korea a free event.

      Actually starcraft is huge everywhere outside of the US. Don't believe me? Check out the World Game Tour which has over 75,000 members (and korea is only #3 in terms of games and players, although they are clearly the best), or Team Liquid which gives reports of the Korean leagues to an english-speaking audience.

    8. Re:questionable contest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the only reason soccer is popular is because the Europeans conquered and slaughtered all of the people in those countries and forced them to play soccer and cricket.

    9. Re:questionable contest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tell me, is it fair to have a "World Championship of Eating", invite a bunch of really good Hindu people from India, and have one of the events be a hamburger eating competition? There is no way that would fly.

      People in the USA don't play soccer, we don't watch soccer, and we sure don't play soccer video games, so having a soccer event is totally unfair. If REAL football isn't popular in other countries then find a basketball game or something. It really isn't that hard.

    10. Re:questionable contest... by bKT* · · Score: 1

      Starcraft has always been big overseas; I believe that it would be bigger here if people actually held tournaments for SC (or RTS in general). I'd like to see a C&C:Generals compeition, I've played that game when it first came out... loved it. Just didn't have the $ to spend on it at the time. Going to pick it up from the ebx later this week.

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    11. Re:questionable contest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If REAL football isn't popular in other countries then find a basketball game or something.

      Typical Usonian. Insist that the "real" football is the one in which you almost never touch the ball with your feet, and ignore the game invented first (renamed 'soccer' through your own arrogance and ignorance). I can't imagine why so many Usonians hate the French so much, when they have more than their fair share of 'French' arrogance.

    12. Re:questionable contest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh dude, if you think you never touch your foot to the ball in FOOTBALL then you've obviously never watched a game of FOOTBALL. Ever heard of a place kicker or a punter? 0wned you idiot.

      The fact is that FOOTBALL is called "FOOTBALL" in the USA and SOCCER is called "SOCCER". That's just how things are here. You can bitch about it all day, but things won't change. Since slashdot is an AMERICAN web site run by AMERICANS, founded by an AMERICAN, and owned by an AMERICAN company, I think we will use the AMERICAN meanings here. If you don't like it then find another web site!

    13. Re:questionable contest... by archilocus · · Score: 1

      Wonder what the national sport in Iraq is going to be ?

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    14. Re:questionable contest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Real football is popular worldwide, it's just that in the US Americans like pansy football (helmets! padding! Timeout because Americans are too fat and lazy to play a sport without 5 minute breaks in between 30 seconds of talentless fat slob action).

      Seriously, Rugby is a man's sport. Americanized Rugby serves TV (they change the rules to make time for commercials. Oh yeah, that's a real sport!)

      I think Americans had to invent dumb sports that no one else would play so that they wouldn't get their asses kicked by everyone else.

    15. Re:questionable contest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want to talk about pansy sports then take a look at SOCCER. If you tackle someone in soccer you get like a red card or something and get thrown out of the game. In FOOTBALL it's just normal. Looks like wussy SOCCER players can't handle the heat.

      I can't believe you'd even say that FOOTBALL is a wussy sport compared to SOCCER. How about this: You take five guys from Manchester United or Arsenal or any of your gas arse SOCCER teams and put them in a FIGHTING MATCH against five real FOOTBALL players. It's not going to be pretty, those SOCCER players will get stomped. Warren Sap could probably take all five wimpy SOCCER players by himself.

      The fact is that SOCCER is a gay sport for gay people. And the fac tthat you like it shows that you are GAY. And Rugby, WTF is that? Who watches the championship or whatever of rugby? And how many billion people watch the Super Bowl every year? Yeah, I thought so, DUMBASS.

    16. Re:questionable contest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > CS requires teamwork more than almost any other game.

      CS is nothing more than a TDM game like TDM in Q1-Q3 and other FPS'. Only the physics and weapons are different. Tribes2 is a game where teamwork is required. Unfortunately it's not very popular.
      Plus T2 runs on Linux in contradiction to CS.

    17. Re:questionable contest... by sixide · · Score: 1

      Umm, sorry, CS isn't TDM. Not in the way that TDM is used by people who know what TDM is, at least. Tribes 2 requires teamwork, but implying CS doesn't is silly.

    18. Re:questionable contest... by netsharc · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wah, wah, I don't play the games because I think they suck or they're not popular here, so they must be anti-me!

      It's also discrimanatory against the majority of Ethopians because they don't have the luxury of computers! Let's make Bush bomb Korea! Both of them!

      Hey, can my team from Uganda play in your "World Series"?

      I just read the last paragraph, you think they HATE the USA? What a self-inflated feeling of worth. They probably didn't even care that no loud-talking, fat-ass, whiny Americans like you attended the event.

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    19. Re:questionable contest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh dude, if you think you never touch your foot to the ball in FOOTBALL then you've obviously never watched a game of FOOTBALL. Ever heard of a place kicker or a punter? 0wned you idiot.

      Fool. He didn't say you never touch the ball with your foot. Learn to read, child. Then you can go look up a definition for '0wned' and see how it doesn't apply to your pissy little post. The rest of your post just accentuates your lack of education.

    20. Re:questionable contest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      youve obviously never tried running in pads

      in high school i knew a guy who lost 20 lbs in pre season conditioning. 2 weeks.

      theyre strapped on, placing pressure on your chest, and add about 15 lbs of weight. its sort of like trying to run in high altitudes with 2 layers of wet clothing. and all running is dead out sprint.

      soccer (football) is a sport so is american football. soccer players would outlast american football players in long distance, but for pure explosive power american football is unmatched.

    21. Re:questionable contest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have a problem with Xenophobia (i've looked at your other postings as well).

    22. Re:questionable contest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      StarCraft - SC is over 5 years old, and almost noone plays it anymore. It has no business being in this tournament. Big suprise, the Koreans won this event, I heard this game is HUGE over there. This event was obviously just thrown in to give Korea a free event.

      You haven't played StarCraft in a while have you? There are still 75000 players on the US-West server at any given time.

      Man, Americans lose an event and they cry out 'cheater!' like whiny little kids.

      YOU LOST Stop bitching.

    23. Re:questionable contest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmmm I thought that the internet was international.

    24. Re:questionable contest... by Sivaram_Velauthapill · · Score: 1

      Seriously, Rugby is a man's sport. Americanized Rugby serves TV (they change the rules to make time for commercials. Oh yeah, that's a real sport!)

      The capitalist overlords in USA want to add commercials to EVERYTHING. They even show some soccer games with commercials (although they don't stop the game.)

      Sivaram Velauthapillai

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    25. Re:questionable contest... by bani · · Score: 1

      tribes2 requires more teamwork than CS does. tribes2 is far more strategic, CS relies mainly on who has the quickest reaction times.

    26. Re:questionable contest... by actor_au · · Score: 1

      The Superbowl is aired worldwide to a potential audience of about 2 billion people.
      Its watched by about 400 million people for more than twenty minutes, after the half-time show the numbers drop to Americans and people to stoned to relise that they aren't playing Madden.
      Why should the rest of the world learn your stupid complex rules just because you can't be bothered to learn theirs? US Population < Rest of Human Race.
      Face it, outside of America no-one gives a rats arse about Gridiron. Soccer on the other hand is essentially a religion in some parts of the world.
      Also Soccers rules are remarkably simple to understand, get ball in net... don't touch ball with hands...unless you are goalie.
      Thats essentially the basic rules of soccer. I can't even comprehend Gridiron. Rugby(Union) and Aussie Rules on the other hand I love and know most of the rules.

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  21. WANKERS OF LORE by whiteygonnapay · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Eat shit and die
    Fuckers

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  22. YAY! Germany won! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We rock!!!

  23. Soccer Champions: Germany! by uli9999 · · Score: 2, Funny

    The FIFA Soccer Finals: two German twin brothers who agreed beforehand to split the prize.

    As England's Gary Lineker said: Football is a game with 22 men and in the end, the Germans always win.

  24. Did they just say cyber competitions? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    !wow

  25. Re:Linux : Penguin Sex howto (Socre:5, Informative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My God! How did this modded up?!

  26. they suck in long term intrest. by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Insightful

    the games aren't constant.

    it's like turning the rules of soccer(or american football) on it's head every few years. with the olympic cycle of 4 years, the games would completely change between every olympic games held. now you could become 'olympic level' in any of the games mentioned now in just few years practice, which is not possible in (most) other olympic sports.

    now, just about the only (electronic)games that would have had the longevity needed for even thinking of being added would be nethack(with special categories such as illiterate monk?) and.. well, something, tetris perhaps. the games that have been played for 10+ years aren't exactly popular.

    perhaps in 50 years we will have games that have a life of more than 20+ years, enough to strike it through as a real long term sports.

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  27. chinese taipei? by minus_273 · · Score: 2, Funny

    hmm didnt know they still called it that. next thing you know someone will start talking about formousa :-p. get over the political correctness; its Taiwan

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    1. Re:Chinese Taipei? by jester42 · · Score: 1

      because I just copied it from the WCG site and didn't even think about political correctness...

    2. Re:Chinese Taipei? by generic-man · · Score: 1

      For what it's worth, it's called "Chinese Taipei" in the Olympics as well.

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  28. Chinese Taipei? by DaneelGiskard · · Score: 1

    We got no problem calling it Taiwan all the other times, so why not now ;-P

  29. Clarification by Daath · · Score: 1

    SoGamed's WCG site!
    SoGamed WCG film
    A better link to sogameds demo section, right now I can only find 3 WCG demos under the "WCG 2003" category...

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    1. Re:Clarification by coene · · Score: 1

      http://www.gotfrag.com/?node=xdemos&x=&order=&page =&query=&eventid=34&mapid=0

      GotFrag has ~ 40 demos from WCG 2003

      http://www.gotfrag.com/?node=demo&id=5404&x=0727 58 0F

      That is a zip with a bunch of WC3 replays from the event

    2. Re:Clarification by Daath · · Score: 1

      Aaaaah nice!

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  30. One gold to Sweden by Utter · · Score: 1

    Wohoo, Sweden at least one the CounterStrike competition. It was even on mentioned on swedish national news. (I guess we don't win that much, so we are happy with what we get)

    Congratulation guys!

    1. Re:One gold to Sweden by bo0ork · · Score: 1

      Hey, we've been kicking butt in FPS ever since Clan Nine took out Thresh's gang (I forget what they were called) in Quakeworld championships... 8 to 2.

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    2. Re:One gold to Sweden by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, the Swedes were strong favorites to win...only the US team was expected to give them a challenge, which they did, but not enough.

      Counter-Strike is played in two 12-round halves, where you have to win 13 rounds total to win the match. Sweden won the first match in a fairly close 13-7, then took the second match with an amazing comeback, winning only 2 rounds the first half but winning 11 the second half.

      Sweden is a very strong gaming country because of the cheap, high quality internet connections...they have top-level competitive players for basically all video games which are popular there, despite the small population.

    3. Re:One gold to Sweden by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Hey, we've been kicking butt in FPS ever since Clan Nine took out Thresh's gang (I forget what they were called) in Quakeworld championships... 8 to 2.

      Deathrow. The handle was [DR], IIRC, and they were sponsored by Microsoft. That was before there were dedicated gaming mice...

    4. Re:One gold to Sweden by fegu · · Score: 1

      But why, oh why, isn't Norway even represented? Where can we call and who can we write to get in?

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    5. Re:One gold to Sweden by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because gaming in norway died when quake 2 (and with it MM, or was it the other way around?) went away...

  31. GOD THIS COLOR SUCKS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    A few years ago, while browsing around the library downtown, I had to take a piss. As I entered the john a big beautiful all-American football hero type, about twenty five, came out of one of the booths. I stood at the urinal looking at him out of the corner of my eye as he washed his hands. He didn't once look at me. He was "straight" and married -- and in any case I was sure I wouldn't have a chance with him.
    As soon as he left I darted into the booth he'd vacated, hoping there might be a lingering smell of shit and even a seat still warm from his sturdy young ass. I found not only the smell but the shit itself. He'd forgotten to flush. And what a treasure he had left behind. Three or four beautiful specimens floated in the bowl. It apparently had been a fairly dry, constipated shit, for all were fat, stiff, and ruggedly textured. The real prize was a great feast of turd -- a nine inch gastrointestinal triumph as thick as a man's wrist. I knelt before the bowl, inhaling the rich brown fragrance and wondered if I should obey the impulse building up inside me. I'd always been a heavy rimmer and had lapped up more than one little clump of shit, but that had been just an inevitable part of eating ass and not an end in itself.

    Of course I'd had jerkoff fantasies of devouring great loads of it (what rimmer hasn't), but I had never done it. Now, here I was, confronted with the most beautiful five-pound turd I'd ever feasted my eyes on, a sausage fit to star in any fantasy and one I knew to have been hatched from the asshole of the world's handsomest young stud. Why not? I plucked it from the bowl, holding it with both hands to keep it from breaking. I lifted it to my nose.

    It smelled like rich, ripe limburger (horrid, but thrilling), yet had the consistency of cheddar. What is cheese anyway but milk turning to shit without the benefit of a digestive tract? I gave it a lick and found that it tasted better then it smelled. I've found since then that shit nearly almost does..

    I hesitated no longer. I shoved the fucking thing as far into my mouth as I could get it and sucked on it like a big brown cock, beating my meat like a madman. I wanted to completely engulf it and bit off a large chunk, flooding my mouth with the intense, bittersweet flavor. To my delight I found that while the water in the bowl had chilled the outside of the turd, it was still warm inside. As I chewed I discovered that it was filled with hard little bits of something I soon identified as peanuts. He hadn't chewed them carefully and they'd passed through his body virtually unchanged. I ate it greedily, sending lump after peanutty lump sliding scratchily down my throat. My only regret was the donor of this feast wasn't there to wash it down with his piss.

    I soon reached a terrific climax. I caught my cum in the cupped palm of my hand and drank it down. Believe me, there is no more delightful combination of flavors than the hot sweetness of cum with the rich bitterness of shit. Afterwards I was sorry that I hadn't made it last longer.

    But then I realized that I still had a lot of fun in store for me. There was still a clutch of virile turds left in the bowl. I tenderly fished them out, rolled them into my hankercheif, and stashed them in my briefcase. In the week to come I found all kinds of ways to eat the shit without bolting it right down. Once eaten it's gone forever unless you want to filch it third hand out of your own asshole. Not an unreasonable recourse in moments of desperation or simple boredom.

    I stored the turds in the refrigerator when I was not using them but within a week they were all gone. The last one I held in my mouth without chewing, letting it slowly dissolve. I had liquid shit trickling down my throat for nearly four hours.. I must have had six orgasms in the process.

    I often think of that lovely young guy dropping solid gold out of his sweet, pink asshole every day, never knowing what joy it could, and at least once did, bring to a grateful shiteater.

  32. Hmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Buttfucker

  33. Gatorade by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is "IT" in you?

  34. Survival Project by HoldenCaulfield · · Score: 4, Informative

    Kind of hard to find anything on this game (at least in english). Here's a short review in english.

    Looks like the following are official sites (Taiwanese and Korean respectively)

    http://www.spgame.com.tw/
    http://spgame.com/

    Seems to be some kind of multiplayer RPG that's got an anime feel to it . . .

  35. Mac G5 gaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    butt fuck butt fuck butt fuck butt fuck

    BUTT PLUG

  36. Re:imagine what gym class will be like in the futu by UltimaL337Star · · Score: 0

    The only thing that kind of gym class could help teach to help against shootings is fear of the absolute power of the admin.

  37. Re:Linux : Penguin Sex howto (Socre:5, Informative by howhardcanitbetocrea · · Score: 1

    read it more carefully...the modding was part of the topic...and the dick even spelled it wrong :P

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  38. idiot by AnusesCheeses · · Score: 1

    responding to trolls logged in byebye karma!

    1. Re:idiot by howhardcanitbetocrea · · Score: 1

      did you just respond to a troll?

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  39. Re:imagine what gym class will be like in the futu by bKT* · · Score: 1

    Playing FPS games is nothing like shooting a gun; we're safe until we see actual guns with mice and keyboards.

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  40. BLAINE SEES THE LIGHT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    David Blaine has emerged, emotional, drained and confused at the end of his 44-day self-imposed fast.

    Stepping weakly out of his Perspex box, he stammered: "This has been one of the most experiences of my life, next to felching Malda."

    His tortuous diet of just taco-snot saw him lose four-stone and the exertions, both physical and mental, had clearly taken their toll on him.

    Struggling to overcome the manic screams from the crowds at Tower Bridge, and his own floods of tears, he said: "This has been one of the most important experiences of my life.

    "I have learned more in that little box than I have in years. I learned how hard it is to have any senese of humour in life because nothing makes any sense anyway.

    "I have learned how strong we all are as human beings, how strong we all are.

    "But most importantly, I learned to appreciate all the simple things in life - a smile from a stranger or a loved one, the sunrise, the sunset.

    "Everything that God has given us."

    And repeating words that had been thrown at him by many during his experiment, he added: "I thank you so much. I love you all, I love you."

    Shivering despite being wrapped in a blanket, he seemed agitated as paramedics on the scene carried out an initial series of tests.

    They gave him oxygen and checked his heart rythym before taking him to a waiting ambulance an on to a hospital, thousands of fans waving him on.

  41. Webserver + DNS by damas · · Score: 1

    Were they running both on the same win2k computer, or their ISP just pulled the plug?

  42. Meta-Observation by spectecjr · · Score: 3, Funny

    Isn't it funny that for an anti-Microsoft site such as Slashdot, they use a Microsoft Sidewinder Pro as their icon?

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  43. Me Say Gay-ay-ay-O! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

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  44. Re:imagine what gym class will be like in the futu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and will this be what people learn in the english class of the future:

    http://www.worldcybergames.org/funstuff/b_conten ts _view.asp?cont_seq=2229&page=1&catalog_seq =20

  45. Bashing Starcraft? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Ok. Anyone bashing SC, stfu and read this carefully. Though the game is old, or even very old, it is played a WHOLE FUCKING LOT. Don't believe me? Go log onto BNET (your choice of US gateways if you think only Koreans are playing it) and see how many people play it. Yea, it is about the SAME AS BEFORE - over 10k games usually.

    Furthermore, SC displays the following great points:
    1. It is balanced. There has been almost no RTS as balanced like this one.

    2. Look at the gameplay. Forget the micromanagement in the new games, this one is as clear a test of aim and linear strategy for RTS as CS is for FPS. It tests skill very well - CS is old but can you deny that it is an awesome test.

    2b. Ok as a continuation, there has to also be non-linear games so you can throw in something like...pfff WC3:FT? I think WC3:FT is to SC:BW as UT2k3 is to HL:CS (get that?). And for the FPS genre, we do have UT2k3 and CS...

    3. Try playing UMS maps (use map settings). They actually are a whole lot of fun. Though they won't be used in tourneys likely, have a look at the 'defense' line of maps, which exhibit some very cool uses of the engine.

    So yea quit talkin' out your ass sayin' that the game is old. It is still very much active and popular which is why an SC2 would be a very popular game (blizzard developers, hint hint)

    1. Re:Bashing Starcraft? by DeathPenguin · · Score: 1

      It's been a while since I've played, but if I recall one of the more annoying problems in Starcraft were cookie-cutter build orders and rushes. One could hatch four or six zerglings and do a very signifficant amount of damage (Destroy a storage depot, a pylon, or several drones) in a small map like the ever-so-popular Lost Temple before defenses could be set up. This wasn't a big deal for Terrans since a bunker required only a set of barracks to be built, but it was much more difficult to get enough zealots or build a forge to get photon cannons or an evolution chamber to get a sunken colony going in time to fend off such a rush.

      The worst imbalance I can think of were the Protoss templars with psi storm. For 75 mana/energy and a capacity to use that ability several times, a Protoss player could devastate any Zerg or Protoss force or any Terran air forces. I omitted Terran ground forces simply because of siege tanks and possible science vessals with EMP to drain the energy from templars. Zerg defilers weren't nearly as bad, but they could still render a force comprised of mechanical units (Especially Protoss) defenseless.

      Oh, and mass dragoons were too powerful. Unless the player ran them straight into a huge line of siege tanks or psi storming templars, there was very little hope in stopping them before they could level a base. Even with lots of canons / bunkers / sunken colonies / misc units lying around.

      Another thing that I really hated about that game is how air units would huddle up on top of eachother. The primary reason I hated this was because it made all units in a control group extremely vulnerable to plague, EMP, and psi storm. Some other RTS games allow formations, which would be ideal for fixing that problem.

      About the biggest problem I have with battle.net is that the players seem to have a severe lack in creativity. I play a good deal of Warcraft (Same name on US/West gateway), and in almost all team ladder games I play (I don't even bother with solo games now) it boils down to my opponent(s) choosing whatever race is most unbalanced and exploiting whatever it is that makes them unbalanced. Back in Reign of Chaos it was mass shamens, then mass witch doctors, then mass huntresses. It's gotten a lot better recently with Frozen Throne, but people still seem to be caught in this one-track mind state where they mass only one unit no matter how circumstances vary. I've had teammates and enemies insist on rushing even if the target has a bunch of towers up and can easily fend them off, and I've had teammates and enemies that insist on massing air units when the other team has plenty of anti-air. Or perhaps someone will decide to rush tech and mass tier 3 units, but won't bother to expand. So by the time the fighting heats up, this poor bastard only has three or four units to fight with. Good units, perhaps, but typically non-upgraded and hopelessly outnumbered. Fortunately, a good variety of malee / range or air / spellcasters can win out in almost any situation, so I'm pleased overall with the game.

      I suppose all in spite of out-dated graphics, an inferior interface to Warcraft 3, and the stuff I've described above, SC has managed to withstand the test of time, so Blizzard certainly did something right with that game.

  46. Re:imagine what gym class will be like in the futu by Samurai+Cat! · · Score: 1

    "At least fewer people will be killed inadvertently the next time a Columbine happens. The kids will have better aim."

    What kind of jackass comment is that? The kids killed at Columbine *didn't have guns*.

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    "People" using "unnecessary" quotes should be "shot".
  47. Re:imagine what gym class will be like in the futu by Samurai+Cat! · · Score: 1

    Unless you're talking about the two kids who *did* the killing (who had guns) having better aim, and hence, not killing folks they didn't mean to kill. Still a jackass comment.

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  48. Why use "twitch" games? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What happens when human-computer interfaces are refined to the point where hand-eye coordination and manual reflexes no longer have an effect on how well a person plays a game?

    Will winning have any meaning then? This is rather like the illicit drugs issue in athletic sports, only taken to the nth degree since the limits imposed by muscle and bone would not apply.

    What is the core of this competition, is the real question. That has to be determined if it's going to be an Olympic sport.

    If the Olympics were going to implement a cyberathlete sport, but use original code instead of commercial games, what sort of game would be best for them to invent? What would its key features be? What skills would it measure?

    Is it hand-eye coordination? Quickness of thought?

    With improved H-C interface, would the highest IQs always win? Would an IQ test then suffice in place of the game for competition?

  49. Re:Linux : Penguin Sex howto (Socre:5, Informative by Texas+Rose+on+Lava+L · · Score: 1

    Try responding to this comment, but first correct the spelling error in the subject. Hit the "preview" button. Look at what Slashcode does to the subject, and you'll understand why the OP included the misspelling. I've seen other trolls put "5core:5, Interesting" to get around this "feature."

    BTW, the original comment actually was modded up - it was at +1 Funny at one point. Looks like somebody's going to get nailed when this comes up in m2.

  50. Odd by Cirrius · · Score: 1

    I wonder why there are no id software games present in the games list? They always seem to be the bar of online deathmatch type games, odd they would be left out of the "World Cyber Games".

    1. Re:Odd by Nick_dm · · Score: 1

      There was pretty huge uproar about this in the quake3 community but basicly the WCG organisation were unwilling to use any game without support from the games publishers, ie. people on hand to sort out any technical issues arrising during the tourament. Activision decided they weren't willing too (maybe as they aren't really making money on q3 atm as its quite old) and as a result q3 wasn't picked. Tbh activision aren't the people I'd want in a tech support role like that, compared to experienced q3 server admins/mod coders, but I understand why they have rules like that.

    2. Re:Odd by rhakka · · Score: 1

      Because iD software in its infinite wisdom decided awhile back that they should be paid for games played in high end tournaments like this.

      Suddenly, Quake was no longer a CPL or WCG pick. Go figure, eh? They still have Quakecon though so it's not like they don't have any top tier outlets for their game.

  51. Re:imagine what gym class will be like in the futu by DAldredge · · Score: 1

    YOU need to pay more attention! the post directly below yours has it right!!! :->

  52. Re:imagine what gym class will be like in the futu by Sivaram_Velauthapill · · Score: 1

    At least fewer people will be killed inadvertently the next time a Columbine happens. The kids will have better aim.

    Actually the killers actually killed the people they wanted. There wasn't any "inadvertent" kills (I don't even know what that means)...

    Sivaram Velauthapillai

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  53. Cyber games? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hmmmm... kind of like soggy biscuit right?

  54. Re:imagine what gym class will be like in the futu by mad+flyer · · Score: 0

    Maybe the words "collateral damage" can be of any help...

    Now to waiting for insult and else rated at +1...

    bad day on slashdot for me...

  55. and our next main event by ShadowRage · · Score: 1

    Mass cyber sex! get ready! go!

    Crowd: eeeew..

    that's prolly why it wont get in the olympics.

    in seriousness, I dont see it worthy as an olypmic event, the olympics are for physical endurance...
    and masturbation doesnt count either, or moving your fingers over a keyboard.

  56. Re:imagine what gym class will be like in the futu by PreviouslySeen · · Score: 1

    we had a form of FPS in gym class-- Dodgeball

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  57. Iraqi national sport by G�tz · · Score: 1

    Football is really popular in Iraq. I know this because the national trainer was from East Germany, he had to flee from the bombs.

  58. JUST USE KSHARPS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    more like gaysharps! JAJAJAKEKEKEK