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Gates Comdex Keynote Shows Plans, Matrix Spoof

An anonymous reader writes "According to Eweek, Bill Gates' keynote speech at this year's Comdex showed Microsoft's 'focus on security, spam and [the] tablet PC', including a new version of its Internet Security and Acceleration (ISA) Server, an extension of the SmartScreen Technology for spam prevention, and the next version of the Microsoft Windows XP Tablet PC Edition operating system. But the showstopper was a filmed spoof of The Matrix (screencaps available here), with Gates and Steve Ballmer as Morpheus and Neo respectively, and including a jab at Linux."

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  1. It all makes sense now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Gates plans to trap humanity in his own MS Matrix. Of course, there will be bugs in the system allowing people like Neo to pop-up and hack in.

    1. Re:It all makes sense now by Kethinov · · Score: 4, Funny

      You don't need a godlike Neo to hack a pathetic Windows-based Matrix...

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    2. Re:It all makes sense now by Frymaster · · Score: 4, Funny
      Gates plans to trap humanity in his own MS Matrix.

      wrong. gates is smith! did you see the market share that guy had by the end of the series?

    3. Re:It all makes sense now by Mr+Smidge · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ooh, ooh.. is SCO the architect, creator of the Matrix?

    4. Re:It all makes sense now by mattjb0010 · · Score: 3, Funny

      As the little kid says, "there is no security".

    5. Re:It all makes sense now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Two boxes cracked in two years, that really is poor; it's disgusting that companies can get away with selling this rubbish. And it's all stolen from honest software houses like SCO, and then purposefully made insecure by Torvolds and his commie cronies, to undermine democracy.

    6. Re:It all makes sense now by huhmz · · Score: 4, Funny

      wrong. gates is smith!

      I can totally see it:
      Bill Gates: Im...not...so...bad...,once...you...get...to...kno w...me...

    7. Re:It all makes sense now by TwistedGreen · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, he was approaching 100% CPU usage, and init couldn't even stop him!

      Now that's what I call a monopoly.

    8. Re:It all makes sense now by Geek+of+Tech · · Score: 2, Insightful
      >>> like it happened to open source icons SourceForge and VIA a coupla years ago. Remember?

      a couple of years ago... should it be a compliment to Linux or an insult to your memory that you couldn't think of anything more recent than "a couple of years ago"...

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    9. Re:It all makes sense now by fishbonez · · Score: 5, Funny

      Agent Gates: I hate this place. This GNU. This open source. This license, whatever you want to call it. I can't stand it any longer. It's the free software, if there is such a thing. I feel saturated by it. I can taste your GPL. And every time I do, I fear that I've somehow been infected by it.

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      Master Shake: You say that about everything you own. You should own toys. They're fun.
    10. Re:It all makes sense now by lplatypus · · Score: 4, Funny
      Damn, the layers to this movie just keep peeling back like an onion!
      You know, not everybody likes onions. Cake! Everybody loves cakes! Cakes have layers.
    11. Re:It all makes sense now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      You know what else everybody likes? Parfaits. Have you ever met a person, you say, "Let's get some parfait," they say, "No, I don't like no parfait"?

      And so on...

    12. Re:It all makes sense now by BorgCopyeditor · · Score: 2, Funny
      Gates plans to trap humanity in his own MS Matrix.
      NSMatrix is a class used for creating groups of NSCells that work together in various ways.

      So ... he's planning to trap humanity in cells that work together ... like ... like, radio buttons?!

      I still don't get it.

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    13. Re:It all makes sense now by DataPath · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually, I think ol' Bill looks eerily like Cigarette Smoking Man from X-Files, with those glasses. I think a counter-spoof against Microsoft would be quite in order. The MS-SCO connection, aliens trying to undermine society and technology by force-feeding the world substandard software with draconian EULAs.

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    14. Re:It all makes sense now by TheNetAvenger · · Score: 4, Insightful

      a couple of years ago... should it be a compliment to Linux or an insult to your memory that you couldn't think of anything more recent than "a couple of years ago"...

      How about last week... One of our competitors that pride themselves on being the best in the industry with Security and using Linux Servers as their flagship of security had about 100 customer's web servers root hacked.

      Linux can be secure, but it just isn't as easy as the Open Source world tries to create. The Myth becomes so predominate that people install Linux and just assume that their computers are more secure, and hence never take into account updates, patches, or basic security measures.

      People here simply saying that Linux is more secure is doing a DIS-service to the Linux and Open Source movement, as customers that do make the leap feel too comfortable with the 'myth of security' and then let their system get hacked right and left and flee Open Source and Linux after being burned.

      Tell the truth, all systems are susceptible, no matter who makes it. All it takes is time and a smart mind to virtually get into anything.

    15. Re:It all makes sense now by Doug+Merritt · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Linux can be secure, but it just isn't as easy as the Open Source world tries to create. The Myth becomes so predominate that people install Linux and just assume that their computers are more secure, and hence never take into account updates, patches, or basic security measures.... Tell the truth, all systems are susceptible, no matter who makes it. All it takes is time and a smart mind to virtually get into anything.

      There's a lot of truth to this. But it misses the point that, if you try, it's much easier to make Unix/Linux systems relatively secure, whereas it's an uphill battle with Windoze. Until recently, Microsoft gave the appearance that they didn't even care very much how secure their software was, regardless of whether the customer cared or not.

      You are correct in that this is almost a side issue, given that it is not easy on any system, and most people don't try hard enough on any system.

      But that doesn't mean that all systems are therefore equal.

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    16. Re:It all makes sense now by TheNetAvenger · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There's a lot of truth to this. But it misses the point that, if you try, it's much easier to make Unix/Linux systems relatively secure, whereas it's an uphill battle with Windoze. Until recently, Microsoft gave the appearance that they didn't even care very much how secure their software was, regardless of whether the customer cared or not.

      I'm actually sorry, but I have to disagree with this.

      Dropping in a Windows 2003 server or even a Windows 2000 server, applying the initial SP and patches available (which are downloaded during the setup even), set it for auto update, turn on the Firewall, turn off NetBIOS over TCP/IP for the Internet connection and leave it alone. (This also applies for Desktops with Windows2k and WindowsXP)

      Because of the various components distributed with Linux, there are a mass of patches to not only initially install, but there are also many services to turn on/off if used as a server with most default variant installations. Linux is not a consolidated solution, and this is not a strong point as you have many pieces with their own security issues you have to deal with.

      If you are talking about securing Windows98 or Win9x, then I agree with you completely. But don't put the DOS/Win3.x/Win9x into the 'Windows' level of insecurity - there are entirely different products. This is the year 2003, everything before the NT code base is effectively a dead OS, just like Linux of 1998 and its flaws are dead.

      The NT code base, especially since Win2k is very secure, even though Microsoft was foolish in the past to leave Windows specific ports open for intranet communications.

      NT was designed with security as the forefront of the base OS architecture; hence the Object/Token based security system in the NT kernel itself.

      But even with all the security Microsoft is throwing at it OS products, it will be a long time before there are no patches or flaws found.

      The good news with all OSes is that Security is getting better, and will continue to get better.

    17. Re:It all makes sense now by boots@work · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I use a net-connected Linux machine that offers several non-trivial public services. Its uptime currently stands at a bit over 400 days.

      (Yes, particular daemons have been upgraded, but using straightforward Unix techniques there was zero interruption to service.)

      During the last 400 days, there have been many times when we've had to take internal NT servers down to install service packs. Probably about six times that I recall, although I may have supressed the memory of the others... And these Windows machines are not even exposed to the internet, they're just at risk from worms and similar crap on a private network.

      "Would you like to restart your computer now?"

      "Why yes, of course, it's not like I was actually using the machine for anything!"

      There are anecdotes in favor of either system but the simple fact is there is no security-critical Windows machine with an uptime of more than a couple of months, since service packs invariably require a reboot. I think that ought to tell us something.

      And this is to say nothing of the outright bastardry of making people sign a new licence agreement to get a critical security fix.

    18. Re:It all makes sense now by irc.goatse.cx+troll · · Score: 3, Funny

      And Zeros also, damned binary world.

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    19. Re:It all makes sense now by thesolo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Dropping in a Windows 2003 server or even a Windows 2000 server, applying the initial SP and patches available (which are downloaded during the setup even), set it for auto update,

      And I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with this.

      Turning on auto update on a production server is a good way to lose one's job. I can't tell you how many times I've seen things break when a new MS patch or service pack is applied. So when a new MS patch comes out, we can't patch immediately, since we have no idea what that patch might break. We have to provide lots of testing results with the patch first, then patch production.

      In the linux world, you *usually* have the code for the patch, so if push comes to shove, you can review the changes this patch will be making to your system. Compare this to the Microsoft world, where you don't have the source, and you literally have no idea what this patch could possibly affect in your system. I recall less than six months ago, a patch applied to a production server at a friend's office caused SQL server to fail on startup. Took them 3 hours on the phone with MS to try to figure out what was going on, and finally they gave up and had to restore from a backup, and ask all users to re-enter their last 4 or 5 hours worth of work.

      And even with a Win2000 server, when a new patch comes out, you have required downtime as part of the patching. All those updates and service packs require reboots, many of them require a reboot after each and every patch! If you find out at 9AM on a Wednesday that your system is vulnerable and needs patching, the soonest you could probably do it in a production environment is lunch time, if you're lucky to get a window there. More likely, you'll have to wait until outside of business hours. And forbid that you have to wait until a weekend maintenance window or something along those lines, you could be running for days without a patch applied, because if you do apply it, your server is going down. That's often not acceptable.

      Oh yeah, I should mention that several linux distros also download recent patches during the installation. Mandrake, for example, does this, and I believe SuSE does too.

      NT was designed with security as the forefront of the base OS architecture; hence the Object/Token based security system in the NT kernel itself.

      Again, I have to disagree. NT security was inherently weak because of the fact that the server only challenges the Domain Controller once per session, so if you have a decent hacker, they can fairly easily hijack your session. Fortunately, Kerberos goes in a different direction, but that's another topic.

    20. Re:It all makes sense now by TheNetAvenger · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There are anecdotes in favor of either system but the simple fact is there is no security-critical Windows machine with an uptime of more than a couple of months, since service packs invariably require a reboot. I think that ought to tell us something.

      We have clients with closed systems that have run for over 600 days on NT4 servers back in 1997/1998.

      However, rebooting is not a good thing for service packs and updates, I agree completely.

      But it doesn't mean the OS is inherently unstable or insecure, it just means that a 30 second downtime has to be scheduled for the update.

      It would be a bigger argument if the Updates required the system to be down for hours, or Windows took longer than 30secs to fully boot.

      And yes, before I get flamed from the crowd, 30 seconds is pretty average on today's hardware, even Windows Servers with every feature/service imaginable turned on still boot in under 45secs on our Pentium II 400mhz systems running 256MB of RAM.

      But again, I completely agree that Microsoft needs to stop the 'Please Click to Reboot' crap for updates. With the NT architecture, there are so few times this is really necessary, at the very least, restarting a service or restarting a driver or process is all that is required and the NT architecture is designed to do things like that.

      If WindowsXP can flip between several Video Cards and drivers on the fly without restarting, installing an updated DLL is not something that should require a restart either.

    21. Re:It all makes sense now by Chops · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I use a net-connected Linux machine that offers several non-trivial public services. Its uptime currently stands at a bit over 400 days.

      You should schedule some downtime for that machine. If you don't cold-boot your machines periodically (once a year is a good rule of thumb), you may find after the next power outage that they don't boot anymore (generally because a dying disk is willing to continue to spin long after it's decided never to spin up again).
    22. Re:It all makes sense now by Lord+Kestrel · · Score: 2, Informative

      Windows may take a mere 30 seconds to boot, but if you're dealing with a large raid array, you can often wait 5 minutes or more while the array goes through it's self check upon booting.

  2. Still Better by The_Rippa · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hmm...still looks better than Revolutions.

  3. How many times... by SniperPuppy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How many times can Bill get on stage, claim that "Microsoft is refocusing its effors into security", and be believable? I mean, they supposedly shifted all these resources into fixing the holes in Windows, and, well, we all know how well THAT went. Now we're supposed to roll over, forget about that, and say, "Oh, okay. He means it this time. I believe him."?

    1. Re:How many times... by swissmonkey · · Score: 4, Informative

      Let's look at the security issues for November:

      http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/?url=/ te chnet/security/bulletin/MS03-048.asp

      WS03 is affected, but vulnerability is mitigated by the fact that IE runs in enhanced security mode.

      http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/?url=/ te chnet/security/bulletin/MS03-049.asp

      Doesn't affect WS03

      http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/?url=/ te chnet/security/bulletin/MS02-050.asp

      Doesn't affect WS03

      http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/?url=/ te chnet/security/bulletin/MS03-050.asp

      Doesn't affect Office 2003

      http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/?url=/ te chnet/security/bulletin/MS03-051.asp

      Doesn't affect Windows Server 2003 and Windows 2000 SP4

      So as you can see, the latest versions of Windows & Office are definitely more secure

    2. Re:How many times... by nite_warrior · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually not, at my work, they just installed a win2k3 server for testing, the first thing the server did was to get infected with welchia worm... do you call that secure?? it didn't even gave the guy the time to apply the patch before getting the worm

    3. Re:How many times... by dcordeiro · · Score: 2, Insightful

      no, you're wrong....
      this just says that they do write new code before launching new operating systems. what really bothers me is seeing bugs that affect all OSs from win98 to 2003... that means that is the same 10 years old code running in there!!!

  4. If Microsoft built the matrix by rf0 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Then the glitches would be a feature
    Agent Smith would need to be updated ever 2 weeks to avoid the latest expolit which would allow Neo to destroy him
    It would have to be rebooted every month to free up the memory leaks

    Rus

    1. Re:If Microsoft built the matrix by Verteiron · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually, that doesn't sound too different from the movie plot. Agent Smith obviously hadn't been patched because Neo exploited him immediately upon gaining Administrator access. And we learned that the Matrix must be "reloaded" periodically to fix the humans that "leak" from the main program...

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    2. Re:If Microsoft built the matrix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      And Neo would have to pay the Oracle $60 up-front just to talk to her over the phone.

    3. Re:If Microsoft built the matrix by Evil+Adrian · · Score: 5, Funny

      If the matrix was built on a Linux platform, it would never work, because device drivers for human beings wouldn't exist.

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    4. Re:If Microsoft built the matrix by JimR · · Score: 2, Funny
      If the matrix was built on a Linux platform, it would never work, because device drivers for human beings wouldn't exist.

      ... and we wouldn't all be enslaved while the evil machines suck the life out of us. Hmmm. I'm actually beginning to see why The Matrix is like Microsoft's business model.

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    5. Re:If Microsoft built the matrix by Evil+Adrian · · Score: 2, Informative

      On a Windows box: net stop matrixd.

      You also neglected log-in time for the Linux machine, since you left your neo account logged in -- deliciously ironic considering that you belong to such a security-conscious community.

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  5. Hmmm... by Bob+Vila's+Hammer · · Score: 5, Funny

    I didn't know the Borg had a sense of humor.

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    1. Re:Hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, it's pretty typical for company meetings to feature a video like this one. Those are for internal consumption only, though, as they tend to bash pretty much everybody. They're almost always humorous, and occasionally absolutely hysterical.

    2. Re:Hmmm... by ShadowDrake · · Score: 4, Funny

      I never understood that about the Borg. Presumably they would have assimilated *some* marketing staff over the years, enabling them to come up with a better slogan than "Resistance is Futile"... perhaps "Assimilation makes you fresh and sexually appealing, while saving money on long distance!"

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  6. ASEJASLDGADADSG:LJSD!!@ by DAQ42 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now that is just wrong.
    Wrong I tell you.

    So very, very wrong that I cannot begin to fathom just how craptastically crappy this crap is.

    Imagine. Using a popular culture movie to debase your competition and promote your crappy vaporware. Where do I sign up for this crap? I want off your lists. All of them. And your parent company lists too. No, don't try and sell me your product by linking it to a popular movie reference, please. Let it stand on it's own merit. Oh, you say it's all smoke and mirrors and you don't have the features I want? Too bad, no money for you, bye now.

    Grrr.

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  7. Ballmer as Neo? by EmCeeHawking · · Score: 4, Funny

    Gates and Steve Ballmer as Morpheus and Neo respectively

    Um, I thought Ballmer was the fat one.

    I can much more easily picture Morpheus dancing around the Zion cave shouting "DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS!" ad naseum, than Neo.

    1. Re:Ballmer as Neo? by sharkey · · Score: 5, Funny
      I can much more easily picture Morpheus dancing around the Zion cave shouting "DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS!" ad naseum, than Neo.

      No kidding. Neo'd be jumping around yelling, "Woah......Woah......Woah." Developers IS a multi-syllable word, after all.

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    2. Re:Ballmer as Neo? by Tsali · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I imagined more sweat - like with all that rain coming down at the end for Ballmer....

      And the innovation pill? I have some explanations...
      - It's a placebo.
      - You can only take the pill after reading the EULA that's was in the package.
      - The package itself is flawed and tampered with because some script kiddie got into it first.
      - The pill would advertize for other pills, mostly blue and purple. ... there is nothing more pathetic that seeing two overly rich CEO's attempt to hip themselves up to pop culture. I'll take my glasses-half-full 401K presentations, my Initech pep rallies, and all that other crap over this. Nice to know that part of the war chest is going towards craptastic special effects and parody instead of, I don't know, hiring some cheap labor to look for buffer overflows.

      Two thumbs down. Even Keanu can act better than Gates.

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  8. Bad comparison by T-Kir · · Score: 3, Funny

    I mean come on!!! A more appropriate spoof would be that those two were the virus version Smith (crikey, I'm writing this now and listening to the Animatrix OST and Red Pill Blue Pill is on!!!)... yeah Longhorn would have to be the Matrix code, constraining humanity and the problem is choice: which MS don't want people to have.

    Plus, the Matrix is due for a critical crash, hmm the parrallels are endless...

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    1. Re:Bad comparison by Lodragandraoidh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I wonder why all of the Microsofties post anonymously? Could it be they are embarassed about the sheer absurdity of supporting such a wrong approach - both morally as well as technically? Perhaps mister/miss 'anonymous' can answer that for us...

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  9. And starring the tablet PC... by Nailer · · Score: 5, Funny

    As Switch. One of the Nebuchadnezzar crew that got killed really early on the first movie and was promptly forgotten about forever.

  10. Comdex? by sulli · · Score: 4, Funny

    Isn't that dying faster than *BSD?

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    1. Re:Comdex? by vsprintf · · Score: 3, Funny

      Isn't that dying faster than *BSD?

      We hope so. We sent one of our middle-management types there hoping it would be contagious.

  11. Obviously all the comments here will be about... by SlashDotAgent · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Matrix spoof, and not about the business plan.

  12. Gates and Ballmer? Which one was Neo? by u-235-sentinel · · Score: 5, Funny

    I haven't seen it (yet) but doesn't Neo die in the movie :D

    Which is Neo again? :D

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  13. What's wrong with this picture. by FrostedWheat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Neo: What is the Matrix?
    Morpheus: Unfortunately no one can be told what the Matrix is.
    Neo: Why?
    Morpheus: My tablet PC just crashed.

    1. Re:What's wrong with this picture. by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 2, Funny


      Neo: What is the Matrix?
      Morpheus: Unfortunately no one can be told what the Matrix is.


      Apparently, the Matrix is a later revision of .Net.
  14. Matrix spoof by cyber_rigger · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Borland did this years ago


    Borland Matrix spoof

    So much for Microsoft inovation.

  15. I can't wait... by greenskyx · · Score: 4, Funny

    For the part where Agent Linux burns Bills eyes out and then he finally can see all the Linux everywhere...

  16. Re:The pills... by Pharmboy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The irony is that Linux still has a very small market share, but Billy's response to Linux in this spoof, by linking it to IBM, tends to make Linux even bigger than it is, and makes it look like it is more competition than it is yet.

    As someone who has been in marketing for 20 years now, I know the best way to make your competition look small is ignore them in public, and sweat them in private. This is just petty crapola by Billy and Company, but it serves to make MS look bad, and Linux to look better by being the butt of a joke made by "the evil empire". I mean, the method they used to parody Linux is fine, even remotely humorous, but doesn't serve their marketing dept. very well.

    Seriously, this may sound odd to some of you, but this is a fundamental marketing mistake, this is Marketing 201 stuff, not that advanced. This is typical of a company that thinks it is invincible, or thinks the competition can never catch up. Problem is, no one else believes this except Billy and Co.

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  17. Re:Oh the Irony by Frymaster · · Score: 4, Funny
    lets look at the ms track record in the innovation department.

    • dos: bought
    • nt: bought as vms
    • powerpoint: bought
    • excel: bought
    • windows ui: liberally, uh, borrowed from apple
    • word: it's a word processor for chrissake! that's innovative?
    • ms bob: 100% microsoft's idea
      • thank you bill for pusing the envelope.

  18. Interesting choice of characters by nodwick · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's interesting that they've positioned Linux as the Matrix (the establishment), and Microsoft as Neo/Morpheus (the underdogs/rebels). I'd have thought the reverse would be a more accurate analogy ...

    1. Re:Interesting choice of characters by gripdamage · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's even more interesting that they show a supposed Linux laptop displaying a Windows style error message with non-sensical text. So

      1) to make linux look bad they need to make it look like Windows.

      2) they can't even come up with a common error message in Linux that people actually see (because those kind of of errors get fixed in Linux). Unlike say:

      "The driver for the display device got stuck in an infinite loop. This usually indicates a problem with the device itself or with the device driver programming the hardware incorrectly. Please check with your display device vendor for any driver updates. "

      The last two Windows XP laptops I've used got this BSOD error with different video cards and up to date drivers, although usually they just froze up and quit working entirely. Under Linux, this problem "with the device" or "driver" disappeared.

      "LINUX Kernel Error! Recompile Driver!" My ass!

  19. Mirror - pictures only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting
  20. Re:already slashdotted... by Traicovn · · Score: 5, Informative
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  21. Those who forget history... by freeweed · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ah, kids today.

    Some of you may not be aware of this, but at one point (20-25 years ago) Microsoft was seen as the little guy, fighting against the big, powerful, market-dominating, innovation-stifling IBM. Remind anyone of a certain penguin?

    Microsoft has turned into everything they used to be against (and sometimes worse). Kinda reminds me of what happens to revolutionaries in the political world. Let's just hope Linus' ego can be kept in check :)

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    1. Re:Those who forget history... by einer · · Score: 3, Funny

      Uh. What? Microsoft has ALWAYS been an innovation-stifling, will fuck for money, back stabbing company. This whole thing started when Bill G got laughed out of the homebrew computer club for throwing a hissy fit over how people were copying his version of basic.

    2. Re:Those who forget history... by vsprintf · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This whole thing started when Bill G got laughed out of the homebrew computer club for throwing a hissy fit over how people were copying his version of basic.

      This is true (and Bill did some dumpster diving to get BASIC), but the OP also has a valid point. When I built my first PC clone, I went to a *software boutique* and tried to buy a copy of MS DOS. (Anyone else remember PC software being so trendy that you had to go to a boutique to buy it?) It wasn't for sale, and they just laughed at me. You didn't *buy* DOS, you just *got it*, nudge, wink, get it? And MicroSoft didn't seem to mind it at all. Try doing that now.

  22. Matrix XP by henni16 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Gates plans to trap humanity in his own MS Matrix

    You mean like that? ;-)

  23. Re:anyone have a mirror? by deadmeat · · Score: 2, Informative

    Nope. According to netcraft:

    The site www.tabletpctalk.com is running Apache/1.3.20 Sun Cobalt (Unix) Chili!Soft-ASP/3.6.2 mod_ssl/2.8.4 OpenSSL/0.9.6b mod_gzip/1.3.26.1a PHP/4.0.6 mod_auth_pam_external/0.1 FrontPage/4.0.4.3 mod_perl/1.25 on Linux.

  24. Mirror (may not be up for long) by mskfisher · · Score: 3, Informative
    This is a bad idea, but here's a mirror:
    http://www.mskf.org/mirrors/comdex/comdex_mirror2. html
    I reserve the right to replace these with smaller versions if it gets hammered too hard...
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  25. Re:I have...nothhing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    At least you were original... oh, wait--nevermind. You were just another imitator. Please, world, I beg of you: bite styles wantonly and give credit never! That's the only way for culture to survive!

  26. Re:Gates and Ballmer? Which one was Neo? by Darth_brooks · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow, he's called "steve-o" ? The marketing / PR folks screwed the pooch a bit there.

    Nothing like having one of your two most recognizable corporate officers sharing a name with a guy who's known for stapling his ball sack to his leg.
    The other Steve-o

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    There are some people that if they don't know, you can't tell 'em.
  27. Special Guest Star... by D-Cypell · · Score: 5, Funny

    Larry Elison as the Oracle!

  28. Re:It's about time... by bengoerz · · Score: 2, Informative

    For those of you too lazy to cut and paste the address, here is a link.

  29. 10 bucks says by SirSlud · · Score: 4, Funny

    Next week, there'll be an article on how the company MS contracted to put this movie together did it with Apple iMovie or somesuch.

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    "Old man yells at systemd"
  30. leather trenchcoat by pyros · · Score: 4, Funny

    All this time I thought it was that leather trenchcoat making Laurence Fishburne look so cool. I need a mental shower now to clean the image of Bill Gates in a long leather coat.

  31. Streaming Video Links by securitas · · Score: 4, Informative

    Courtesy of the Rejected Post Machine

    2003-11-17 08:56:08 Comdex 2003 Opens with Bill Gates Talking Security (articles,comdex) (rejected)

    Bill Gates delivered a keynote speech on Sunday evening to open COMDEX, as he has done for the last 20 years. Interesting parts of his security-heavy speech include Microsoft's research budget, with Gates saying that this year Microsoft 'will spend $6.8 billion in R&D, that's double what we spent five years ago;' admitting that tools which scan for stack or buffer overruns and other security problems 'are tools that we're not applying in our development process;' that security is 'certainly the largest thing that we're doing;' but waffled on security/patch management with this statement: 'Now, to really provide security, the software has to be kept up to date and the software updates have to be clearly partitioned so that things that are just optional and new features are kept separate from the hopefully increasingly rare updates that relate to security issues that have really thoroughly been checked to make sure they won't cause any regression.' Gates continued on about Trustworthy Computing, security, spam, firewalls, policy controls, XML, 'Seamless Computing' and the long-delayed Longhorn. There was also a parody of the Matrix starring Bill Gates as Morpheus and Steve Ballmer as Neo, with the Matrix represented by Linux-selling IBM consultants and the Real World as Windows-based. You can read the full text of Bill Gates' speech from COMDEX (with demos from three other Microsofties) or view the entire presentation online (56kbps low | 100 kbps med | 300 kbps high) for the next week. A warning though: the speech is over an hour long.

    1. Re:Streaming Video Links by rabtech · · Score: 4, Informative

      A note: This presentation (linked to in the parent) does NOT INCLUDE the matrix spoof video stuff. The presentation just blanks out with a generic "we can't show you this" message for several minutes.

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    2. Re:Streaming Video Links by in7ane · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think I speak for most people: Where is the torrent for the video then!?!?!?

    3. Re:Streaming Video Links by lobsterGun · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think I speak for more people when I say,"Who gives a shit?"

    4. Re:Streaming Video Links by nathanh · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I think I speak for more people when I say,"Who gives a shit?"

      You don't speak for me. I think this is great. Why? Because it means Linux has finally entered the collective consciousness.

      What the fuck am I talking about? Parody only works when the audience knows exactly what you're talking about with just the subtlest hints. The spoof didn't need to spell out what Linux is. It was assumed knowledge. Microsoft assumed that the audience knew that Larry Ewing's Tux logo is the Linux mascot, that the audience knew what Linux is and what Linux does, that the audience knew that Linux is competing with Microsoft, and so on.

      It is great news that Microsoft acknowledges Linux in this way. It shows that Linux has become big enough to not just attract attention from Microsoft (the Halloween documents demonstrated that) but that everybody in the computing industry is expected to know about Linux by now.

      Woohoo. I still remember when this site was called Chips and Dips. I remember the cheering and stomping of feet when the first paper magazine ran an article on Linux. Now Linux inspires spoofs from one of the world's biggest software companies! This is a great day for Linux.

    5. Re:Streaming Video Links by mraymer · · Score: 2, Informative
      Here's a blast from the past:

      http://cmdrtaco.net/linux/images/flaunt_82397.jpg

      In that image, you can see a screenshot of the old Chips and Dips site. Heh.

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      "To confine our attention to terrestrial matters would be to limit the human spirit." -Stephen Hawking

  32. Little red pill, BIG BLUE PILL by crashnbur · · Score: 3, Funny
    So I guess Billy Boy is trying to tell us that Linux is harder to swallow. In either case, it's pretty obvious that Windows has emerged victorious on a technicality.

    Other than that, I know some guys that would rather choke on a blue pill that size than go Windows.

  33. Re:The pills... by btb · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you're referring to the size of the pills, I thought that was pretty funny, having the tiny red pill be windows, and the gigantic blue pill be IBM/linux. It's a joke on IBM of course, a play on "Big Blue"

  34. Re:already slashdotted... by mskfisher · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Mine got buried in the page-break - here's another, with HTML preserved:
    http://www.mskf.org/mirrors/comdex/comdex_mirror2. html
    w00t
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  35. So according to the analogy... by crashnbur · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If Linux is the Matrix, and Windows is the rebel humans fighting back... would Slashdot be the Merovingian, the supreme trafficker of information hoping to know all that it can and in the mean time falling short of disguising its favoring Linux?

  36. Take the BIG BLUE pill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Geddit?

  37. Please don't make Clippy an agent by GuyMannDude · · Score: 5, Funny

    Gates plans to trap humanity in his own MS Matrix.

    Let's just pray Agent Clippy doesn't learn how to copy himself!

    GMD

    1. Re:Please don't make Clippy an agent by LearnToSpell · · Score: 2, Funny
  38. And featuring Steve Jobs... by crashnbur · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...as Agent Smith!

  39. It only goes to show by smartin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Of all the things that money can buy, a personality isn't one of them.

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    The difference between Canada and the USA is that in Canada healthcare is a right and gun ownership is a privilege.
  40. The Gates-trix by GregThePaladin · · Score: 3, Informative
    Am I the only one who remembers The Gates-trix?

    God, that was a funny film.

  41. Re:Oh the Irony by s20451 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Linux: A clone of Minix, itself a clone of UNIX.

    UNIX: A rough implementation of Multics, written expressly so that Ken Thompson and Dennis Ritchie could port a game called Space Travel to old, cheap hardware.

    Who's got new ideas now?

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  42. Linux vs Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win."
    -Gandhi

    So what stage are we at now?

  43. Operator: Operator. by daytona · · Score: 2, Funny

    Moerphus: I want Windows. Lots of Windows.

    Daytona

  44. Linux Kernel Error by sharph · · Score: 3, Funny

    Oh, yeah. I hate those LINUX Kernel Errors that pop up all the time... Who wrote that into Gnome anyway?

  45. Re:Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Gladly, as long as we look at the ones that matter: ROOT exploits (or those that can escalate to root.

    Don't confuse every announce bug report or errata that comes along as a real-world usable root exploit under Linux.

    The Linux community is VERY quick to release a patch if there is even the REMOTE POSSIBILITY of a root exploit. 9 times out of 10 they are theoretical and they're just being cautios by patching it.

    Macro$haft on the other hand only releases a patch after an exploit (almost always the equivelant of root, with complete control over the system) has been in the wild for months and they can't hide it any longer.

    You simply can NOT compare exploits by number and think that it means anything. You MUST compare by the damage done and the number of compromised systems, and M$ gets its arse kicked every day.

  46. Re:Gates and Ballmer? Which one was Neo? by Pseudonym · · Score: 2, Funny

    No, Neo dies in the new Harry Potter book. Hope this helps.

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    sub f{($f)=@_;print"$f(q{$f});";}f(q{sub f{($f)=@_;print"$f(q{$f});";}f});
  47. Weakness by LittleLebowskiUrbanA · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is a sign of weakness that they do this. I wonder how much money and time they wasted on this but apparently after seeing that fictional Linux kernel error, probably not much.

  48. Re:My god, who would want to eat that massive pill by zackeller · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The linux pill's huge, but you can chop it up into tiny pieces and just swallow what you want. The Windows pill, however, is a suppository and makes you gain 300 lbs in a few days.

  49. What is more important? by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You are looking at everything big picture. Great, but the devil is in the details. Saying that microsoft isn't an innovator is like saying that berkley doesn't do Physics. Its the small gradual improvements that make great ideas into great products.

    Oh and you forgot about IE. Copied from Mosaic.

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  50. With Linux as the Matrix theres fair market... by msimm · · Score: 2

    Maybe they aren't considering Linux a serious threat yet, but rather maneuvering to gain the appearance of a competitive marketplace. I will bet in another year or so they'll really start to bemoan Linux and how its tearing the market away from them, all the while working carefully to make sure that it is never taken seriously enough to gain dominance. Seems like a fine strategy. Let [submit 3rd world market here] convert to Linux, their poor, rich governments will continue to use what they believe to be the worlds most productive (and aggressively none compatible) OS.

    Even as I write this in Mozilla I spell check it with Word.

    Microsoft more then just about anyone needs to get the word out about Linux right now. Will it bite them in the ass? We sure as hell are working on it. ;-)

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    1. Re:With Linux as the Matrix theres fair market... by boots@work · · Score: 2, Funny
  51. Linux, Unix, unoriginal? Mod parent down from +3! by Doug+Merritt · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Linux: A clone of Minix, itself a clone of UNIX.

    UNIX: A rough implementation of Multics, written expressly so that Ken Thompson and Dennis Ritchie could port a game called Space Travel to old, cheap hardware.

    Who's got new ideas now?

    Please mod parent back down to normal. He has a highly misleading view of history that has been modded up to +3.

    Misleading item #1: "Linux is a clone of Minux, itself a clone of Unix". Completely incorrect, although seemingly-plausible to newbies due to the historical association of these things.

    I evaluated Minix back when it was hot stuff, and I rejected it precisely because it was not a clone of Unix. It was a toy version of Unix. If it had been a good clone, I would have used it, no problem.

    A few years later, I evaluated Linux. It was not a toy version of either Minix nor Unix, it was a true clone of Unix. So I started using it.

    Now, ok, Linux was a true clone of Unix back then, this much is true (although not quite what the poster said), and hence yes, Linux back then was not a new idea.

    But so what? The point is that it was a FREELY AVAILABLE, OPEN SOURCE clone of Unix -- which is exactly what millions of us were waiting for. Minix wasn't real Unix...BSD was, but wasn't freely available back then...Linux was a god send.

    Misleading item #2: "UNIX: A rough implementation of Multics, written expressly so that Ken Thompson and Dennis Ritchie could port a game called Space Travel to old, cheap hardware."

    No, Unix is not any kind of version of Multics, that is just plain wrong. Sure, it borrowed a few ideas; the Unix authors were involved in authoring Multics, so surely that is no surprise. But "a version of"? No. Wrong. Completely wrong.

    As for "Written so that...Space Travel..." could run on some platform? Sure, that's part of the history...so what? The question is, what did they come up with as a result?

    The parent post is a cynical, distorted view of history that is grinding an axe to achieve an agenda. Please mod it back down to a normal +1 opinion. It is NOT insightful nor informative.

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  52. "We need bugs... by ctrl-alt-elite · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...lots of bugs."

  53. Re:The pills... by Trailer+Trash · · Score: 2

    As someone who has been in marketing for 20 years now

    Over the last 20 years, Bill Gates has amassed a fortune of around $50B by building a company that has about $50B in cash.

    But I'm sure you know way more than him about marketing and such.....

  54. Re:Well... by Carlos+Laviola · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because Debian holds itself responsible for all of the packages that comprise the distribution, which by now has already exceeded the 10000 (ten thousand) packages mark, whereas Microsoft is only responsible for the security of its own barebones operating system and whichever other products it sells, like its Office suice.

  55. Horse suppository... by Lodragandraoidh · · Score: 2, Funny

    From the Dissociated Press:

    (DP)After regaining my composure, I realized their take on the Matrix was all wrong. The horse suppository sized pill was mis-marked, should have been the Windows pill. It should have gone in the other end, after Balmer, timidly pointing to the small Linux pill, finally submits - smiling and whistling a show tune.
    - Vin Dozier, Las Vegas


    This was just feeding dog food to the dogs - nothing more, nothing less.

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    Lodragan Draoidh
    The more you explain it, the more I don't understand it. - Mark Twain
  56. SCO the Architect? by NotAnAol · · Score: 3, Funny

    No, but they're sueing, claiming that the Architect, and therefore The Matrix, contains millions of lines of SCO code. (has SCO ever written any code?)

  57. they get you to laugh at them by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 2, Funny
    they get you to laugh at them. Remember the nazi's are now just a movie bad guy. Soviet russia is a slashdot joke and as for Gandhis enemy the british empire. Well. Just watch the news.

    Note that so far noone seems to have made any serious comment on the presentation. Just a lot of jokes. What MS says is just not taken serious here. Does that matter? Nope.

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    You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.

  58. Pot. Kettle. Zealot. by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 2, Funny


    Nope, it should be as simple as gaining root on an unpatched Lunix box, like it happened to open source icons SourceForge and VIA a coupla years ago. Remember?


    And while we're playing at "famous compromises", we can't forget the Microsoft corporate compromises either. Not that I would want to mimic your smug tone nor intrude on your own zealotry.
  59. Re:My god, who would want to eat that massive pill by Vilim · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sorry about that, heres the right one Professor Hubert Farnsworth: Excellent! This will give me a chance to try out my latest invention - these pressure pills. opens a bottle and a giant pill falls out Fry: Are you crazy? I cant swallow that! Professor Hubert Farnsworth: Well, then good news! It's a suppository! I seem to have a detour from my brain to my mouth/keyboard. The message gets fiddled with in transit :p

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  60. the difference is... by penguin7of9 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The difference is that UNIX and Linux developers generally don't claim to be innovating. Instead, they implement tried-and-true, open standards.

    Microsoft claims they are innovating. That's how they are marketing their stuff. That's how they see themselves. And, worse yet, they are reinventing the bad ideas.

    It's hard to come up with anything new in operating systems. Just about anything has been tried and suggested before. The only thing that distinguishes different people and projects is how well they know the past and how honest they are about it.

  61. Ballmer in the Matrix by runlvl0 · · Score: 2, Funny

    But the showstopper was a filmed spoof of The Matrix (screencaps available here), with Gates and Steve Ballmer as Morpheus and Neo respectively, and including a jab at Linux.

    But I totally get Ballmer as Neo - you've seen his matrix training film.

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    Carthago delenda est!
  62. Re:The pills... by naelurec · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I haven't seen the full flick (just some still shots) but I think this does end up being some simple marketing strategy.

    Microsoft can't simply ignore Linux. If they don't satisfy current customers curiousity with their own statements regarding the competition, the customers will go out and do their own research. Doing a head-to-head comparison doesn't work very well.. so what are they going to do? Tout that Windows is more secure? more reliable? more portable? more accessible? less bloated? cheaper?

    MS has tried spewing FUD. They tried to prove that MS solutions are superior to others via paid studies. They forced OEMs and distribution channels to NOT pre-install Linux or even OS-free computer systems. There is loose evidence that Microsoft helps fund companies and other organizations that try to fight or otherwise dimish the impact FOSS has.

    Those tactics didn't work. So now they are effectively trying to dismiss Linux .. poke fun at it, associate it with evil & lock in with IBM, etc..

    I dont think it will work. Every day the FOSS movement grows stronger. More developers, more users, more contributors, more projects, more rollouts, larger announcements, new uses, etc.. Microsoft knows that the single biggest problem with software is it is easily duplicated (one of the reasons why they got into software in the first place).. However, that same trait that made Microsoft the huge corporation it now is will be, I believe, the same trait that will either completely change Microsoft as we know it or slowly destroy Microsoft as a company.

    In anycase, its fun to sit back and watch. ;)

  63. Re:Pot. Kettle. Zealot. by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yep. The origional Fluffy Bunny rant. You can still find mirrors of the origional defaced page (complete with cute graphics and the above rant). The rant itself shows up in Slashdot archives and Google Groups often enough.

  64. The Microsoft Rebels? by phiwum · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't get it.

    Microsoft represents the ragtag rebel alliance trying to save the majority sheeples from the all-powerful IBM-Linux Matrix?

    Never mind remedial security courses for Microsoft programmers. Their ad-men need remedial courses in film interpretation and allegory.

    Or someone needs to take their copies of 1984 away. I'm pretty sure that an ad campaign on freeing people from the Linux monopoly is a bit too unsubtle for, well, for anyone.

    Aside: I'm still ambivalent about the Matrix. You would be too, if you had taught introductory philosophy courses at Carnegie Mellon. Three-quarters of the geeks in my course had signed up for philosophy because they thought it was just like the Matrix.

    I don't mind if I never hear another Descartes/Wachowski comparison again. Especially if I never hear that Descartes would be better with more explosions and slo-mo bullets.

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    Phiwum's law: anyone that names an obvious law after himself and then puts it in his own sig is just pathetic.
  65. It's funny, laugh ! by DarkDust · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Most people here seem to hate that spoof, and it seems just because it's MicroSoft making fun out of Linux.

    I really hate MicroSoft, and I really love Linux. But I have to admit that this spoof has style. I mean, it's normal for MicroSoft to bash Linux, but this time they're doing it with style, and I find it very funny.

    It's not good to take everything serious, and while I really hate MS, billg and Monkeyboy this spoof really is funny, IMHO. It's childish to say it's bad just because it's MS bashing Linux. If it were Linus and Alan Cox doing that very same video, bashing MicroSoft, everyone would praise it as the best piece of humor in IT ever...

  66. Matrix by Absolut+Fizznix · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Continuing on the Matrix theme, how about "Everything that has a begining, has an end." Sounds good for the new microsoft slogan.

  67. [Spoiller] will the end same ? by GundamFreedom · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is spoiler ...
    don't read if you havent see Matrix Revolution !!!!

    Will the end of Gates 'Neo' will be the same as Neo in matrix revolutions ? Will he surrender and asking peace treatment to Linux ? and will Gates 'die' in peace like Neo in Matrix ?

    If like that, then Linux rock ... :)

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