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China, Russia, U.S. To Build 100MBps Network
prostoalex writes "Gloriad (Global Ring Network for Advanced Applications Development), a scientific data network, will unite academic institutions in China, Russia and the United States with a 100 MBps link. National Center for Supercomputing Applications received a $2.8 mln grant from NSF, and both Russia and China will match this amount to contribute to network build-up. Later this year, as the Associated Press article notes, a new plan will be launched to move the international network to 10 GBps capacity."
Fast porn from US Russia and China thanks
Wow, stunning...not. Even after the upgrade, it will be outdated before it ever finds a use.
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TFA says its "155 million bytes per second."
The IT section color scheme sucks.
Well using the big 'B' is clear if its realy what you mean. Too often I see the two mixed up.
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UT2K3 perhaps? ;)
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It would be interesting to learn some Russian and Chinese swear words.
Increase in internetworking is always welcome, especially in China and Russia, but there are projects such a Geant which already provide european countries with 10 Gb (and more) pipes.
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So let's see, we've got a 100MBps fat pipe direct from the heartland of the U.S. to the largest communist nation in the world, but I still can't get a direct flight from Miami to a communist country 90 miles off our shore???
I went to the city because I wished to live without deliberation.
New Network to Link U.S., Russia, China
Dec 23, 10:10 AM (ET)
By JIM PAUL
CHAMPAIGN, Ill. (AP) - Soon scientists in the United States, China and Russia will be able to collaborate in cyberspace over a new high-speed computer network that includes the first direct computer link across the Russia-China border, developers say.
The network, expected to go online next month, will ring the Northern Hemisphere, connecting computers in Chicago with machines in Amsterdam, Moscow, Siberia, Beijing and Hong Kong before hooking up with Chicago again, said Greg Cole of the National Center for Supercomputing Applications, one of the leaders of the Little GLORIAD project. Data will flow at 155 million bytes per second.
"This new network permits us to learn more from each other in areas where we have not worked together in the past," Cole said Monday.
The NCSA, based at the University of Illinois' Urbana-Champaign campus, received $2.8 million from the National Science Foundation to fund the U.S. portion of the network for the next three years. Russia and China are spending similar amounts, Cole said.
"As we aim to strengthen our nations' capabilities in research, we also aim to contribute to the cumulative knowledge that lifts the prospects of people everywhere," NSF director Rita Colwell said in a statement announcing the plans.
The NSF's program officer for the project, William Y. Chang, did not immediately return a phone call to his Arlington, Va., office Monday.
Scientists have always had computer networks separate from the consumer Internet that assure them the capacity to transfer huge volumes of information at speeds much faster than typical Internet transfers and for real-time collaboration on high-tech experiments, Cole said.
Little GLORIAD - an acronym for Global Ring Network for Advanced Application Development - will allow scientists and educational researchers to work together on such issues as responding to natural disasters, safeguarding nuclear material, monitoring earthquakes or joint space exploration.
They also could collaborate to remotely monitor or control high-tech equipment and even could get together face-to-face by video conferencing over the network, he said.
"This is specifically so our scientists and educators can work together more easily," Cole said. "The technology is really rather amazing with what it allows us to do on a daily basis."
The fiber optic connection between China and Russia that makes the network possible was completed a few months ago, Cole said. Final touches are being put on the China-Russia link, and the global network should see its first traffic on Jan. 5.
A formal launching ceremony is planned for Jan. 12 in Beijing, he said.
Scientists from Russia and the United States have had direct computer linkage for about five years, while Russia and China often exchanged scientific information by meeting in Chicago, Cole said. The new network should strengthen the collaboration between those countries, he said.
Little GLORIAD is a "first big step" toward development of the higher-speed GLORIAD, Cole said. That effort, expected to be launched later this year, will move data at 10 gigabytes per second, 60 times faster than the Little GLORIAD.
Computer connections have fostered scientific collaborations that otherwise might not have happened, Cole said.
"There's some advantage to having people being able to talk more regularly," he said. "There are fewer misunderstandings. I think these networks are going to be more important to the more critical issues that we're all addressing together."
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On the Net:
GLORIAD: http://www.gloriad.org
National Center for Supercomputing Applications: http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu
National Science Foundation: http://www.nsf.gov
With some of the newer Telecom technologies they could hit .
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speads of 40 Giga-bits per second if they wanted, most
likely faster as my knowledge is somewhat dated, ie. 2001
I know Nortel was working on sending 160 Tera-bits down a
single strand of fiber, and I have seen working gear that
pushes 40 Giga-bits 2 years ago
Here is a article from 1999 that said they hit 1.6 Tera
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m0CGC/19_25/
There is now 10 Giga-bit Ethernet
www.10gea.org
The Telecom links always outpace the current Ethernet high end
by usually a sizeable amount
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Er...don't expect to see anything if you're not at one of the linked institutions. This is not an internet link, it's a private WAN.
All it truly means is that we will be getting more spam now that they can send out x times faster.
moo.
Meanwhile, many companies, from small businesses to worldwide corporations, are spending a lot of money to fight spam and other problems. I see a need for many large businesses to get together and build their own network, an "Internet-3" so to speak. They would still have security concerns, but because most of the network's traffic will be business related, the signal to noise ratio will be much better.
With wireless access becoming more popular, I even see the normal consumer providing pieces of the Internet. This network, the original Internet, might eventually become the place where a lot of garbage goes around, while private worldwide networks might eventually keep things clean.
Of course, once all these networks become large, I can see connections made between them, and that will defeat the whole purpose.
I'm skipping the "F" because I don't want to come off as too much of a heavy, but as long as people don't read the article this discussion runs the risk of being completely off topic.
This is not a 100 Mbps (or MBps) connection to the internet. This is a private WAN between the connected institutions.
That means, unless you work or attend one of those institutions, no spam, no mp3s, no pron, no blocking of websites, nothing.
Of course capital B is a standard for Bytes. People are just ignorant to the fact. It doesn't make it any less true.
As of this week China can be officially declared a FORMER communist country. The upper house introduced a bill that is sure to pass guarenteeing private property rights. This is the end of any idea of communism in China and the beginning of their own brand of socialist capatalism more along the lines of Europe.
There are 4 boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order. Starting now.
If I wanted to read the article, I wouldn't be here on slashdot....
Except that the article is wrong. Google around for GLORIAD, and you'll find many references to its present 155Mbps speed. (That's a common speed, used by OC3 etc)
:)
But what's an order of magnitude between friends?
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Cuba is easy to boycott as they don't offer a heck of a lot of things we need/want except good cigars and tourist destinations (both of which you can get elsewhere). If they found oil or developed a booming tech industry overnight the boycott would end faster than you can say Fidel.
Cuba also grow sugar.
Protecting the US sugar farmers is also a reason for keeping the embargo.
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I find it weird that all the European Union member states are not part of this project considering there are many top-notch universities in these countries. The same goes for the other advanced non-EU European countries (Iceland, Norway, etc.)...
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Is 10 Gbit/s good enough?
Check out nordunet:
http://www.nordu.net/map_nordunet.png
All universities (and many museums and institutions) in sweden has a dual redundant 2.5 Gbit/s (10 Gbit/s) connection to SUNET which connect to NORDUnet
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The network, expected to go online next month, will ring the Northern Hemisphere, connecting spammers in Chicago with machines in Amsterdam, Moscow, Siberia, Beijing and Hong Kong before hooking up with Chicago again, said Alan Ralsky of the National Center for Bulk Email Advertising, one of the leaders of the Little CHINANET project. Spam will flow at 155 million bytes per second.
"This new network permits us to learn more from each other in areas where we have not worked together in the past," Ralsky said Monday.
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Spammers have always chosen black-hat ISPs that assure them the capacity to send huge volumes of emails at speeds much faster than typical deliveries and for real-time bargains on high-tech penis enlargements, Ralsky said.
Little CHINANET - an acronym for Common Harbor for Incredibly Nasty Advertising Networks Exceeding Tolerance - will allow spammers and bulk hosters to work together on such issues as ignoring complaints, safeguarding spamvertised sites, monitoring server performance or joint open proxy exploration.
[...]
Little CHINANET is a "first big step" toward development of the higher-speed CHINANET, Ralsky said. That effort, expected to be launched later this year, will send spam at 10 gigabytes per second, 60 times faster than the Little CHINANET.
Computer connections have fostered spam collaborations that otherwise might not have happened, Ralsky said.
"There's some advantage to having people being able to talk more regularly," he said. "There are fewer misunderstandings. I think these networks are going to be more important to the more critical issues that we're all addressing together."
All factual up until this turd...
Capital B is not necessarily a standard for "Bytes".. people just like to pretend it is.
Capital B is entirely a standard for bytes. I buy a 256MB DIMM, not a 2048Mb DIMM.
Some more info here...
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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/23/international
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Close, but it is a country ruled by the military backed elite for the corporations with no rights given to the individual. We have a word for this merging of totalitarianism and corporatism: fascism. The only deviation from the standard definition of fascism is the absence of a single, demigod-like leader (ie. Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin). Though it could be argued that the memory of Mao serves this purpose.
Regardless, the person who compared China to Europe is spectacularly stupid. Unless they meant Europe of the 1930s.
Serve Gonk.
... as in, with crypto-signed messages (or even individual packets) going around...
;-)
I am wondering how much spam is going between banks on the SWIFT network (or whatever the proper name for that thing they use to move big $$ around). let me remind you, banks ARE businesses, but they have a bit more at stake than a chance to sell a $10 bottle of Viagra.
Paul B.
Does this mean the FIRE-WALL will be called the GREAT-FIRE-WALL?
public final transient String president = DUBYA;
So people are talking about how this network will be free from spam and various other sociopathic Internet behavior. Maybe we could create another network and all pretend to use it instead of the Internet, and trick the spammers into leaving the real Internet for the new one! We could even get on the spammer network every once in a while and bitch about all the spam just to keep leading them on. Dude that would be so cool.
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