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Design-Your-Own Computer Case Kits

lord black writes "I was walking the aisles of the local Fry's and discovered a nifty computer-case-erector-set-thingy. Made by Aero Cool, the Lubic kit is basically a bunch of aluminum rails, acrylic panels (for mounting hardware to), and misc. screws to connect it all, for constructing a unique computer case. They have a gallery of example cases. BTW, Aero Cool also makes neat CPU coolers."

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  1. Uhhh...Slashdotted? by metallicagoaltender · · Score: 1, Funny

    Server errors are _much_ cooler in Chinese...

    1. Re:Uhhh...Slashdotted? by LordK3nn3th · · Score: 1

      Especially when you don't have the language installed, then it comes in a lot of little block ascii

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    2. Re:Uhhh...Slashdotted? by sinjayde · · Score: 1

      Web * * www.aerocool.com.tw HTTP 403.9 - Internet Information Services () * Web * Microsoft Support

      Interesting, if you paste the text in the foreign language into slashot and press preview, it converts it to english!

    3. Re:Uhhh...Slashdotted? by Matrix2110 · · Score: 1

      Yes, I ran into those 404 errors in Chinese.

      One thing I noted is that they are very "sticky" for want of a better term. Also, can anybody translate them?

      I see loads of fun coming down the /. pipe!

  2. Huh by metlin · · Score: 4, Funny

    For some odd reason I read that as a Lubric Kit for mounting hardware and screws :-/

    Took me a while to realize that they were talking of the other kind of hardware.

    1. Re:Huh by MyFourthAccount · · Score: 2, Funny

      I mean common, you mean you don't have a Lubric Erector Set yet?

      Didn't you get that memo? We've only been emailing you about it for 5 years.

  3. Slashdotted already. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    They have a gallery of example cases.

    You mean, "had a gallery!"

    Make-your-own computer cases: When ricing up a shitty car isn't enough.

  4. Down already? by Blaine+Hilton · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Didn't take long to bring this site down. I saw some of the images and this looks like a great setup. What I don't like about cases is everything is closed up and changing things are made harder. Making art out of it, and keeping it open looks cool. Only thing is I would be worried about heat and dust buildup being in the open.

    So where can I buy a kit?

    1. Re:Down already? by dbleoslow · · Score: 1

      Why would you want these? While case shopping I saw these and for the first 3 seconds I was like, "cool." Then logic kicked in and realized they don't accomplish the two main things I look for in a case, protecting my equipment from dust and other nasties (as mentioned in parent) and dulling some of the noise. These things are like a spoiler on a Ford Escort. Yeah it may help the car look a tad better than god-awful, but it doesn't really accomplish anything of use.

    2. Re:Down already? by peragrin · · Score: 1
      why worry about heat and dust build-up. 4 years ago i built a computer and I didn't install enough fans orginially. it simple overheated. I took off the cover, and never put it back on unless I am moving the case around town.

      Heat no longer an issue, as it now goes straight up.

      Dust, well that decreased because the air can flow right out of the machine. and when it gets to bad i just reach over with a can of Air and blow it out.

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    3. Re:Down already? by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      These cases have the same response from me as a spoiler on a Ford Escort:

      Someone is trying too hard and spending too much money to look cool, and failing miserably.

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  5. Mirror site.. sorta.. by Smelly+Jeffrey · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have had one of these similar kits for years now!

  6. Non-fucked .us links by adolf · · Score: 5, Informative

    Some links that actually work:

    The cases.

    The coolers.

    The company.

    Don't thank me; thank Google.

    1. Re:Non-fucked .us links by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Informative
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    2. Re:Non-fucked .us links by Amiga+Lover · · Score: 1

      For a moment I thought the cooler shown here was a new novel way to cool HDs.

      Do away with the entire drive case and throw caution (and your platters) to the wind.

    3. Re:Non-fucked .us links by hdparm · · Score: 1

      Yeah but they still have case catagories to show. Loosers.

    4. Re:Non-fucked .us links by hdparm · · Score: 1

      I sure do. Thought it was obvious but you grammar-nazies don't have sense of humo(u)r.

  7. Anyone notice this quote from the coolers site? by Trolling4Dollars · · Score: 3, Funny
    Suggestion from the manufacturer: use blow-blow direction will perform better than blow-suck.

    From my perspective, I don't know if there's really much difference between blow-blow and blow-suck. (Gawd I love out of context quotes!) ;P

    1. Re:Anyone notice this quote from the coolers site? by curtlewis · · Score: 1
      blow-blow direction will perform better than blow-suck.

      Seeing as I can't load the site and the google cache that's been posted shows no images, I'd say that their site not only blows, but sucks as well...

    2. Re:Anyone notice this quote from the coolers site? by pangu · · Score: 1

      It sucks and blows, I didn't know that was physically possible.

  8. Interesting concept, but... by andyring · · Score: 5, Interesting
    As is fairly common knowledge, one of the chief functions of a computer case is to restrict stray electromagnetic fields to inside the box. If it's all made out of plexiglas (or other compounds other than metal, as are many typical case mods), wouldn't this end up doing something like, say, causing all your sperm to mutate?

    Oh, wait, this is Slashdot. Like those spermies are ever going to end up anywhere but a tissue anyway.....

    1. Re:Interesting concept, but... by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Some people have managed to meaasure the EM radiation from an open computer and measured practically nothing on the scale. The thing is that the computer is also succeptible to accepting interference from other sources.

      I doubt that an open computer would irradiate anything any more than cell phones, radio waves, TV broadcasts, TVs, etc.

    2. Re:Interesting concept, but... by Vellmont · · Score: 2, Informative

      The shielding is so your computer doesn't muck-up your next door neighbors TV reception. It doesn't have anything to do with shielding PEOPLE from EM radiation. If you're really concerned about such things, you should be more afraid of your blender than your computer.

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    3. Re:Interesting concept, but... by tgl · · Score: 1

      Sperm, hell. Worry about what will happen when the FCC comes after you. Interfering with your neighbor's TV reception is not only illegal, but may be one of the few cardinal sins left in the US of A. And an unshielded modern machine *will* put out RF interference, big-time.

    4. Re:Interesting concept, but... by wass · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Some people have managed to meaasure the EM radiation from an open computer and measured practically nothing on the scale.

      I think the FCC and the TRS-80 will disagree with you. This thing was the only (to my knowledge, at least) computer to be known to be illegal to sell because it violated FCC RF emission laws.

      Some early games for it even made sound by having the user put an AM radio nearby, and then sent proper bit combinations through the memory bus such that the radio could pick up and play sounds.

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    5. Re:Interesting concept, but... by zakezuke · · Score: 1

      one of the chief functions of a computer case is to restrict stray electromagnetic fields.... If it's all made out of plexiglas .... wouldn't this end up doing something like, say, causing all your sperm to mutate?

      Someone else already pointed it it's so you don't muck with other shit.

      As far as keeping it "cool" and "clear" glass looking... all one has to do is shield it... so RF get shot to ground and not your neighbors TV.

      It's hard to say whether this is an issue realisticly. (America centric) As in it' won't be a class A or class B approved and can't be sold with those stickers on it (/america centric). This is only an issue with electronic devices sold, eithout even a powersupply, it in it self is hardly an electronic device. I think most people I know have cable television, a few have dish, the very few who are too cheep to get cable typicaly have it anyway from a prior install and on't pay for it.

      Can't one accomplish this with some form of fine mesh screen? Something thin enough to be transparent, but still serve the fuction of shielding?

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    6. Re:Interesting concept, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      Oh, wait, this is Slashdot. Like those spermies are ever going to end up anywhere but a tissue anyway.....

      tissue?? Well ain't you dainty. I usually scream "TAKE THAT BITCH" as I fling my seeds at the wall.

    7. Re:Interesting concept, but... by mcrbids · · Score: 2, Informative

      If it's all made out of plexiglas (or other compounds other than metal, as are many typical case mods), wouldn't this end up doing something like, say, causing all your sperm to mutate?

      It's been said elsewhere, but I'd still like to clarify.

      1) EM fields are created by AC current. (AC = Alternating Current, the kind in a wall, goes "back and forth" 60 times a second, and for this reason, any 2-prong plug can be reversed and it still works)

      2) Computers use 5 (and a little) 12 v DC current (DC = Direct Current, goes in same direction at usually a steady rate - think batteries with a "+" and a "-" side that cannot be reversed)

      Since A) DC doesn't give off EM radiation, and B) computers use extremely low DC voltage, most of a computer's circuitry will give off very little detectable radiation.

      -Ben

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    8. Re:Interesting concept, but... by Micro$will · · Score: 1

      I don't know where you got your information from, but if I were you I'd take it back for a refund. With CPU's running at 3Ghz+ and buses running at speeds upto 800Mhz (With nice, long, traces on the motherboard! Gee, sort of like an ariel..) your computer transmits all sorts of electromagnetic radiation on bands upto and surprasing your kitchen microwave.

      Like I stated in a previous post there are no frequencies above 200 Mhz outside of the processor. An 800 Mhz bus is actually a 200 Mhz bus quad pumped so it transfers as much data as an 800 Mhz bus would. There's simply too much stray capacitance on the motherboard to tolerate the distance between the CPU and RAM. Tomshardware explains it all here.

    9. Re:Interesting concept, but... by Cylix · · Score: 1

      Actually,

      I had a similar problem with my friends RC Car remote. It was one of the better cars for the hobbyist with too much money.

      This was a while ago with my over clocked celeron.

      The moment he fired up that damned car and pulled the trigger... bam... he blue screened my box. He had to be significantly close to cause this kind of interferance.

      The bus was probably dealing with errors anyway as it wasn't holding up well with the strain of over clocking. Still, we could literally push a button and send out an RF wave of pc death.

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    10. Re:Interesting concept, but... by seann · · Score: 1

      (m-i-c-k-e-y)
      t-e-m p-e-s-t
      temp e st

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  9. Google Cache by dretay · · Score: 5, Informative

    When I tried to view the pics the site had already been ./'ed. Here's the google cache for the Lubic Gallery of Case Mods

    1. Re:Google Cache by Squirrley · · Score: 1

      that's giving me the same chinese error message... i think it got /.ed too

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    2. Re:Google Cache by bhtooefr · · Score: 1

      However, using a Google Cache of a site with images doesn't work - it only caches text, and has the browser grab the pics from the site. So, when it's /.ed, the pics won't work.

  10. Casemods = Rice Rockets by USAPatriot · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I wonder why a lot of the geek crowd has such disdain for Rice Rocket cars (Type-R stickers, graphics, super-high spoilers, rims), but case-modding is cool.

    Both are just about equally worthless. Both cost ridiculous sums of money for products eventually become worthless. It looks good, but is mostly a makeup for the user's own inadequacies. These modders just love to tell you about their mods and show it off, as if everybody else should care.

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    1. Re:Casemods = Rice Rockets by IM6100 · · Score: 1

      Almost none of what you describe in your list has to do with 'case modding' as it's carried out by most people into that sort of thing.

      They want it to 'look cool' and unique.

      Why you spun off into that rant is unclear.

      My first 'case mod' housed an 8 MHz 8088 motherboard, BTW, although I did put that bare 'Big Board' computer with the Z-80 processor into a used rackmount case because it came with none.

      So anyway...

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    2. Re:Casemods = Rice Rockets by Avihson · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sounds like someone hit a little too close to home.

      Ergonomic case? you sit on the case? Windows in the case are ergonomic features?
      UV reactive lighting is ergonomic?

      For convenience I use a laptop with a trackpoint. No wires needed, no Ricer peripherals or input options needed.
      My Multi user systems are rack mounted, and since I started using Knoppix on the Laptop, I don't need fault tolerant redundant storage. All I need is a spare CD offsite and a thumbdrive.

    3. Re:Casemods = Rice Rockets by Skuld-Chan · · Score: 1

      I have no problem customizing cars and having the outcome look good. Same with cases. My only problem is where it all goes wrong. Example

    4. Re:Casemods = Rice Rockets by ls+-lR · · Score: 1

      Yeah frikkin right. Those gawdy acrylic case windows don't do jack shit for ergonomics, nor do they show off the hardware. Really, when was the last time you saw someone with one of those things and cold cathode lights and actually looked in there and determined jack shit about his system? "Oh, I see you're using a 3 GHz CPU and 1 G RAM". Bullshit. It serves a single purpose, and that's to make its owner feel better about themselves and the crap they paid money for, just as chrome rims are meant to spice up an otherwise boring car. An acrylic window has jack shit functionality other than aesthetics, just as big ass chrome wheels and super low profile tires are usually detremental to handling because they weigh significantly more than the stock rims + tires. And frankly, both types of 'mods' shout "I'm an idiot" because both those ridiculous huge wings on the backs of civics and those "LED-enhanced" casefans serve no useful purpose and cost a lot of money that could have otherwise been spent on something functional.

    5. Re:Casemods = Rice Rockets by ls+-lR · · Score: 1

      A-fuking-men. My thoughts exactly. It's the same mindset, the same group of people that are attracted to these things. The original poster made the fallacy of lumping all of slashdot into a single category, that of "casemods are cool." You couldn't pay me to drive a riced up car with cut springs and a Wright-bros. style wing, and I find most casemods completely pointless and quite gaudy.

    6. Re:Casemods = Rice Rockets by Zakabog · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Rice type cars are like imacs, or maybe a gateway with like a flat screen monitor and a slim black tower that sells for only $1,000. They're just cheap pieces of crap meant to look nice. There are a lot of case mods that are just for looks that a lot of people look down on (Ooooo you have a window and a neon light! Badass!) But I'm more impressed with case mods than some decal that took 2 seconds to apply. There's actually some work to making a case mod look nice, now if you buy a case that comes pre-modded, that's kind of lame. Most of the case mods I've done were quite difficult (like the window mod on my DVD drive, it's in the shape of the radioactive symbol, it took a lot of drawing, measuring and precision cutting but it's exactly above where the CD sits, and the shape is perfect.)

      All of my future mods will actually increase the performance of my computer while also looking pretty sweet at the same time. I recently cut out the front plastic grill on my case, going to replace it with some chicken wire and a radiator from an ATV. Then I'm going to stick a NOS bottle inside my case, that will be hiding an enheim submersable pump (the 2-lb NOS bottle will be the resevoir and it fits perfectly in my case) I will have watercooling on a peltier, there will also be an exhaust sticking out the back of my case, it will start at the CPU and exit out the back, I think I might put a 80CFM fan at the start, give my CPU some extra cooling, depends on how much it'll make a difference on top of the watercooling.

      Rice is bad cause it takes a shitty product, covers it up in a cheap costume, tries to make it look much more expensive then it actually is, and adds absolutely nothing. Well maybe it'll add that "dying cat in your exhaust" noise (wow I love that noise, listening to the raw power of a 4 cylinder 100hp engine at 4,000 RPMs, it totally kicks the crap out of my mustang 5.0.)

      I'm suprised more slashdotters don't discuss really tuning their cars, it's such a geek/hacker type thing. You look at an engine, take it apart, figure out how it works, see that maybe if you increase the size of one piece the performance increases but if it's too big the performance decreases, go over a ton of data seeing where you can improve your cars performance by a fraction of a percent, cut up things or hammer them into place just to make them fit. And like a computer you can go get really cheap parts used and put a car together or get some old junked chevelle, restore it and drive around town in your sweet '70 chevelle SS, and the car doesn't go down in value like a computer, the value actually increases. So instead of putting together some 33mhz computer and installing linux on it cause that's the only use, you can buy a totally trashed car, spend a bunch of time fixing it up and working on it till it's in really good shape (maybe spending $3,000-$4,000) and sell it for like $15,000.

    7. Re:Casemods = Rice Rockets by Macdude · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm suprised more slashdotters don't discuss really tuning their cars, it's such a geek/hacker type thing.

      How am I supposed to fit a car in my parents basement?

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  11. Review at Tweaknews by PaintyThePirate · · Score: 5, Informative

    Tweaknews.net did a review of the Lubic kit last month. Apparently it's not as easy to use as an erector set, but it's still a cool product for case modders.

    1. Re:Review at Tweaknews by onomatomania · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Except that the people that buy this crap are not case modders. The term "case modder" implies that you have some artistic vision to take something boring and through hard work and craftsmanship you modify it to make something unique. This, however, is a bunch of overpriced crap that's trying to cash in on the "sure, I'll pay $30 for a fan with LEDs" crowd. "Case modding" does not mean picking out your case from a menu of options in a catalog.

      Apparently, these are the same people that plaster their Civics with stickers and buy "horsepower adders", as if a gauze air filter and neon colored ignition wires actually had any (non-psychological) effect on performance.

    2. Re:Review at Tweaknews by cubyrop · · Score: 1

      The term "case modder" implies that you have some artistic vision to take something boring and through hard work and craftsmanship you modify it to make something unique.

      Just about every single user-modded case I have ever seen has been the same absurdly tasteless conglomeration of 20 ugly fans and tube lights, the same UV reactive motherboard and IDE cables, tacky black or silver plastic frame with plexiglass window, with fan-control knobs and dials and laughable temperature displays ... and some game logo fan grill or alien-approval case badge.

      And this is "artistic" and "unique"?

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  12. Re: More 404 Fun by value_added · · Score: 1

    There's probably a better listing somewhere but I stumbled across this one recently. Could become an art form. Then again, maybe not.

  13. Re:The server's in Taiwan by UserGoogol · · Score: 1

    No, it's Chinese. Taiwan (AKA The Republic of China) is a small island off the coast of China which was founded by the Nationalists after the Communist party took over the rest of China.

    I don't really think there exists a country which would put their error messages in Sanskrit. Sanskrit is an Indian language, and Hindi and English are far more likely to be spoken there.

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  14. Re:Do people do this? by bitmason · · Score: 1, Informative

    How did this get modded up?

    Chopsticks were certainly NOT invented in the U.S. (See http://www.cuisinenet.com/digest/region/china/chop sticks.shtml for just one reference.) And Michaelangelo was commissioned to paint, among other things, the Sistine Chapel during his lifetime.

  15. Xbox Case? by bottlerocket · · Score: 1

    Well, the Japanese site is already slashdotted (at least, I think it is, seeing as I can't read Japanese) and the American site doesn't have examples of what you can build from the kit. Doesn anyone know if you can build a smaller form-factor case from this kit. One that would, say, hold the inards of an Xbox snuggly?

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    1. Re:Xbox Case? by klevin · · Score: 1

      Hmmm. Based on the characters (Chinese, though I read neither Japanese nor Chinese, there is a visible difference) and the .tw suffix on the domain name, it's more likely that the site is Tiawanese.

      The U.S. site has a small gallery. Click on one of the Lubic kits, then the gallery link at the top of the resulting page.

  16. Spot the age/location demographics ;-) by ScottZ · · Score: 1, Funny

    Now I had a quick look at the .us site and the first thing I thought was "Orac!".

    Go on, put your hands up, you know who you are (fellow old farts) ;-)

    1. Re:Spot the age/location demographics ;-) by RevRa · · Score: 1

      ;-) The vaccuum cleaner? The Orac XL?

      (:: snicker ::)

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    2. Re:Spot the age/location demographics ;-) by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      That would be the universe's most powerful box of flashing lights in transparent tubing.

      Orac had a thing going on with Servilan.

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  17. Re:TAIWAN, Republic of CHINA by IM6100 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    People who are 'in the know' shunt around the whole Taiwan/China controversey by referring to that island as Formosa. Formosa is the Dutch colonial name for the island, so it pisses off all the different factions of Chinese equally to call it that.

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  18. I wonder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Why geeks can dump hundreds of dollars into what is effectively a glorified box, but can lay only excuses on a cause like Wikipedia's survival.

  19. Nice site by cybermace5 · · Score: 1

    I followed the link, but I came away with more questions than answers, unfortunately.

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  20. Suggestion from the MFR: by cebarro · · Score: 1

    Two-fan solution
    Suggestion from the manufacturer: use blow-blow direction will perform better than blow-suck.

    That made my damn day....

  21. (Standard /.'d server comment) by The-Bus · · Score: 1

    Looks like the real cool that these fellows need is not in the aesthetics of their finished product, but in their server farm which is causing 2nd-degree burns to anyone within 5 ft. of their "cool" cases.

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  22. quick observation. by mauthbaux · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I rrecently upgraded my case from the POS that I had before. While shopping for the new case, I ran across these kits. While they sound interesting, (and I'd give them props for the concept if it weren't for the legos and erector sets that had it long before them) The finished products from their gallery are rather dissapointing visually.

    I am an art major, so that might have something to do with my bias, but as far as I can tell, you'd get much better results visually with a couple sheets of plexi, your saw of choice, a dremel and some acrylic joining compound, (I use IPS Weld-on 3... got it from http://www.tapplastics.com ) In my mind, the latter setup will give you alot more flexibility in your case than a pre-made kit.

    of course, i could just have looked at the gallery and gotten dissapointed too quickly to really make a fair critique of the product. *shrug*

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    1. Re:quick observation. by WhodoVoodoo · · Score: 1

      Indeed! Plexiglass glued together would look better possibly, and probably be cheaper. Much cheaper by my guess (having glanced over the pictures, not the price) But you forget that most people lack the tools to cut plexiglass, let alone glue it together! Why... That would probably mean... cutting and glueing as well! Who the hell would do that when they could simply drop a mint for a kit that looks like trash. I mean, I would venture that anybody paying nine dollars at Home Depot for some plex and glue is totally nineteen-ninety-nine.

      Get with the times, man.

  23. Those 404's look great in OS X :) by Aqua+OS+X · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wow, those chinese 404s (they are 404 errors, right?) look great with those multi-language fonts in OS X.

    Man, I've never been able not to understand something so clearly :)

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  24. Re:Do people do this? by mOoZik · · Score: 1, Informative

    Michelangelo WAS able to sell his works. Are you forgetting David? Are you forgetting the Sistine Chapel? The Laurentian Library? The Medici Tombs? The Last Judgment? If anything, he was very successful. Leave it to pretentious geeks to spew out bullshit on the bullshit capital of the Net: Slashdot.

  25. Ergonomics? Right... by tinrobot · · Score: 1

    1. Ergonomics is key and bridges the real world and the virtual world of the GUI.

    I'm sorry, but cutting windows into a case and filling it with flashing blue lights makes it look like a K-Mart. It has NOTHING to do with ergonomics.

    Personally, when I work on my computer, I only need to look at the screen. The last thing I want to look at is a distracting CPU case. My CPU is discreetly tucked away in a rack with a door that's usually closed. Unless I need to burn a CD, I never have to look at it or listen to it.

  26. I'm making a case out of Filet Mignon by digitalgimpus · · Score: 1

    That's right. I am.

    With how cheap beef is, I'm going to have the best tasting case on the planet.

    And I won't boot in windows, or else it will perform like it has Mad Cow Disease and get the neighbors upset.

    1. Re:I'm making a case out of Filet Mignon by Nonesuch · · Score: 1
      I assume you'll be running OpenBSE?
      OpenBSE 2.1 booting
      spine found at default location
      brain at spine 0x01 not configured
      brainless at spine 0x02: ver 0.0a
      nervebus at 0x01 at spine found
      nervebus: fore legs attached
      nervebus: hind legs attached
      tail erect at spine

      http://www.openbsd.org/art/OpenBSE_2.jpg

      Available for purchase at http://www.openbsd.org/tshirts.html#5

  27. Re:TAIWAN, Republic of CHINA by miguel_at_menino.com · · Score: 2, Informative

    People "in the know" should realize that Formosa was the Portuguese name for the island, not Dutch.

  28. Thanks, now that I've seen them... by tinrobot · · Score: 1, Funny

    Man, are those cases UGLY. A giraffe case? Come on...

    Presonally, I'd like to see a case that looks like a Philco Predicta television.

  29. The Links do work... by ResQuad · · Score: 1

    The links do work fine, you just cant click on them, I guess they didnt want to get slashdoted so they banned slashdot as a referer. Just copy and paste.

  30. He he by asadchev · · Score: 1
    I saw erector and lubric in subject and i had to re-read couple before i understood what hardware they offered modding kits for. :-)

    Chinese manufacturers sometimes have real gems in the names of their products. Like Asrock motherboards - every time i see one of those, goatse guy comes to mind. Or the VIAGra chipsets. No kidding - google

  31. Re:Now see, this is a LITTLE off topic by blitzoid · · Score: 1

    Wonderful, I forgot slashdot doesn't automatically add BR tags. ah well.

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  32. Best Features by superpulpsicle · · Score: 2, Interesting

    1.) AGP slot that has a special opening for giant sized fans

    2.) allowing multiple power supply

    3.) allowing as many as 8 fans on the side.

    4.) enable water cooling to graphics card and cpu

    5.) water tank that can be refilled externally

    6.) convenient screwless case

    7.) case that can slide the entire motherboard out easily without any recabling

    8.) 10 external and 10 internal bays

    9.) firewire, usb and headphone jack at front

    10.) case opens up top conveniently for cooling
    Damn I can go on forever.

    1. Re:Best Features by gr8_phk · · Score: 1

      The best feature would be something that I don't have to F--- with to get working.

  33. Re:Now see, this is a LITTLE off topic by asadchev · · Score: 1

    I have seen few of those small ones. They already came prebuilt with motherboard, CPU, etc
    They did have a cd burner with them - one of them laptop-style things. And the power supply was a separate AC adapter if I recall correctly.
    The whole thing was about the size of the Xbox system. Really nice looking but dont know how reliable they are.
    I dont remember the manufacture but you can probably find many of those on google or ebay.

  34. Re:Now see, this is a LITTLE off topic by blitzoid · · Score: 1

    The size of an xbox system?

    No no, I want it SMALL - As in, if you doubled the size of a CDROM drive or something.

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  35. Hummm . . . I Wonder . . . by Newt-dog · · Score: 1
    I wonder if their servers were running the AeroCool setup before it was slashdotted and vaporized. (ahh, before 80 posts were made!)

    Newt-dog

  36. Re:Now see, this is a LITTLE off topic by asadchev · · Score: 1

    I searched google a bit.
    Did not find the exact thing - cant remember the name of it. But came across this small guy. It is somewhat pricey, but i am sure you can find cheaper versions given enough time. I dont know if you can get much smaller without going to Pentium 2 or lower class machines.

  37. Re:Now see, this is a LITTLE off topic by asadchev · · Score: 2, Informative

    Look here.
    They call themselves World`s smallest PC`s and they damn sure got some small guys.

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  39. Wow by pcmanjon · · Score: 1

    Wow, wonder what state you're in. Never met anyone online who has a frys in their area.

    1. Re:Wow by l810c · · Score: 1

      I worked on a project in Phoenix, AZ a couple of years ago. Fry's is a geek's dream store. Think BestBuy/CircuitCity + CompUSA + RadioShack all in a store the size of a Sam's Club/Costco. I've heard rumors they are going to be opening a store in Atlanta, GA, but nothing yet :(

    2. Re:Wow by pcmanjon · · Score: 1

      Yes, it's definately a geeks dream. We have 2 near me in FortWorth, Texas (and additionally one in Houston) There's one in arlington Texas (30 min) and a brand new one in denton (40 min i think?) I hear the one in denton is 2 times as large as the one in arlington (but then again, that can't be true, the one in arlington is already the size of a sams!!) -- Jon_K

    3. Re:Wow by waferhead · · Score: 1

      They just opened a new one in Plano.

      I Count 4 in DFW area.

      Their easy return policies are a blessing/curse, as the reshrinkwrap all returns, but at least they put a "returned..." sticker on it. Look for that sticker...

      Some miscreants:
      Buy stuff (Except SW)
      Use for 29 days
      return/exchange
      lather/rinse/repeat.

      I think they track returns, but I'm sure there is some serious abuse.

      Most of the time the returned stuff is fine, but buyer beware if you live 2 hours away.

    4. Re:Wow by pcmanjon · · Score: 1

      HAHAHAHA yes! I've learned that from personal experience. I use to pick any box... but now... i'll usually search through a ton of boxes which have a white label on it until I find one without the white label.... NEVER buy one with that white label! lol

  40. Re:case modding not ricer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Using enough sterotypes?

    Case modding isn't just taking a standard case then adding a window and lights. Rather case ricers are a vocal subset of case modding.

    There are many other types of case modding:

    1. HiFi - Modified to reduce noise.

    2. Overclocker - modified to increase cooling.

    3. Art - modified to be an expression of the owner, in much the same way as art cars. This is distinct from tarting up.

    4. Disguise - many people shoehorn PCs in to cases that look nothing like a PC. eg: R/C car body

    5. Geekiness - modifying case for additional capabilities, eg: tracked R/C case, with built in UPS.

    Anyway I thought ricers were typically not liked because they tried to make a car look "fast", without any performance improvement. That is not the same as making a car look "pretty". I've not yet heard a case ricer claim that their cosmetic changes made their computer faster.

    In other words, "You keep using that term, I don't think it means what you think it means."

  41. Re:Now see, this is a LITTLE off topic by Graff · · Score: 1
    I'm looking for a very, very small case. Something that would fit a regular sized hard drive, a mini-ITX via board, a slim PSU, and that's it.

    Here is perhaps a starting point: mini-itx.com. I have no clue how good the store is, but they at least list specs and names so you can look around for the best site to buy the cases from.

    There is always a project box from RadioShack, good for building your own small projects. There might be one that will fit your needs.

    Remember, Google is your friend: search for project boxes
  42. because we know it's just for show by 512k · · Score: 1

    whereas a "type-R" badge on a car that was never offered in that version or a giant spoiler that doesn't produce any downforce, just makes the owner look like an idiot who doesn't know anything about cars.

    a better comparison would be twords people who have "show cars". You probably think anything beyond a functional beige case is just as retarded as putting LCD screens in the headrests of a 2 seater car (where nobody can see them) and an extra one in the trunk.

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    ------ Work is so much easier when you don't
  43. Ahh!!!! by chadjg · · Score: 1

    5.) water tank that can be refilled externally

    This quality in a case freaks me out a bit for some reason. I like the case though

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    Why do I have this? I don't smoke.
  44. Re:The server's in Taiwan by QuessFan · · Score: 2, Interesting
    No, it's Chinese. Taiwan (AKA The Republic of China) is a small island off the coast of China which was founded by the Nationalists after the Communist party took over the rest of China.
    Most of Taiwanese population trace their heritage to the troops of Koxinga who kicked out the Dutch East Indie Companies. (aka V.O.C.)
    At the end of WWII, there were about 6 millions Taiwanese. From 1945-1949, about 2 million Nationalist troops and civilian refugees arrived from China

    While that had been a tragic event and impacted the Taiwanese who were already there. The Nationalist/KMT hardly founded Taiwan.
  45. You mean... by djupedal · · Score: 1

    ...that clear plastic bi-plane with RAM slots I say in Fry's actually has some redeeming value?

  46. Not enclosed at all by neurosis101 · · Score: 1

    looks like it'd be really noisy and susceptible to dust and whatnot cuz nothing's covered. No protection for any of the components.

  47. Watch out for cooling by wayne606 · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you build your own case you had better be careful that the fans and other components are positioned so that you get good airflow around the stuff that gets hot. Case designers spend a lot of time verifying that their boxes won't overheat and it's sometimes not at all obvious how the air is going to move.

    1. Re:Watch out for cooling by jandrese · · Score: 1

      Are you sure about this? From what I can tell, most third party case designers do little more than follow the ATX spec and maybe stick a couple of extra fan ports wherever they have room. It's virtually impossible for them to do airflow analysis because they don't know exactly where the fan (or any other components beyond the cards) will be on the motherboard. OEMs, especially the ones that make small or fancy cases, can do this kind of testing but most Slashdotters don't buy OEM equipment (at least for PCs). I know I've had some cases with absolutely atrocious airflow characteristsics over the years. My old PII-400's average operating temperature dropped by nearly 5C when I drilled a few exaust holes in the back of the case. It seems the case designer had convienently created a region of stagnant air around the processor though clever positioning of the power supply and a metal case support.

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      I read the internet for the articles.
    2. Re:Watch out for cooling by wayne606 · · Score: 1

      Well, maybe a lot of system manufacturers don't do this kind of validation, but they should if they want the best performance. If nothing else one should be very careful about leaving off the side panels of a case, "for better airflow". This usually makes the airflow a lot worse because it's forced by the fans rather than natural convection.

  48. I can see the lawyers salivating already by briansz · · Score: 1


    "Cat/Dog/Child encounters 5000 RPM CPU cooling fan in open 'erector-set' computer case, owner/parents sue for $10M."

    This does definitely not appear to be critter or chillin friendly. I saw it at Fry's too (set up as an airplane), and that's the first thing that went through my head.

    To sell this nowadays, those guys must have some really good liability insurance.

    1. Re:I can see the lawyers salivating already by TheOnlyCoolTim · · Score: 1, Informative

      Fact is, though, that you can touch a computer's cooling fan without getting injure. It doesn't even hurt. In fact, I just touched my case fan and my cpu fan just to prove the point.

      Tim

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      Omnia vestra castrorum habetur nobis.
    2. Re:I can see the lawyers salivating already by Doppleganger · · Score: 1

      I've had my thumb sliced open by a CPU cooling fan on a xeon system... There isn't much danger from older fans, but more recent ones can do a lot of damage if your fingers wander into the wrong areas.

    3. Re:I can see the lawyers salivating already by briansz · · Score: 1


      Let's hook up my SGI Challenge L blower and you stick your fingers in it. At least you won't have to worry about having fingerprints at any point in the future. I've accidentally hit a couple fast metal case fans that drew blood too. And don't forget what happens when fan blades shatter - Ralphie, you'll shoot your eye out.

      Believe me, the sea of stupidity is vast. Somebody will figure out how to get hurt with this thing. Especially if there is a payoff at stake. Apparently, you've never known any of those nice folks who get rear-ended in traffic 'professionally'.

  49. drive stacks by dwater · · Score: 1

    I'm curious if I could use this kit to make a chasis for the 8 drives I have on my firewire bus. I use WiebeTech's (http://www,wiebetech.com) drivedocks, and just stick them one on top of the other at the moment (using the plastic spacers they provide), but a purpose built chasis with some fans, and a place to mount the firewire hub would be really neat.

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  51. Am I missing something? by alcmaeon · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I personally think case modding is kind of idiotic. I suppose it gives bragging rights in some circles, but strikes me that anyone you would really want to impress wouldn't give a crap about your computer case.

    I saw a mod on TechTV where they put the comptuer in a machine gun cartridge box. OK, what is the point of this? It doesn't make you cool, it just makes you the idiot who wasted countless hours with a Dremmel Powertool modifying a tin can to house his computer.

    I'm not criticizing someone who wants to create a new space-saving circuit board design or something. That makes sense and takes some engineering skill.

    This particular product seems more than a little silly with the designes that are just rails, not becasue I am concerned about electromagnetic radiation, but because I am concerned with dropping stuff on my motherboard. I thought that was the point of the case, otherwise, just lay the crap out on your desk and use it. It's a hell of a lot easier to switch hardware with it not in a case.

    1. Re:Am I missing something? by Magius_AR · · Score: 1
      I personally think case modding is kind of idiotic. I suppose it gives bragging rights in some circles, but strikes me that anyone you would really want to impress wouldn't give a crap about your computer case.
      Many (most?) artists create for their own sake, not to impress others.

      It's just a form of expression. Some people mod cars, some people mod cases, some people create fancy looking food, some people take perfectly functional furniture and make it more aesthetically pleasing. None of this stuff is practically necessary, but it's still done.

    2. Re:Am I missing something? by gonzo67 · · Score: 1

      The ammo can case does have a use.. going to LAN parties. When closed it is a solid steel case protecting the precious electronics, and he made it so he could lock all the media drives (DVD/CD) when he left the compluter so his disks would not be taken, and it lock the keyboard, mouse, etc. Some of the mods were simply for cool factor (ie the lcd display), but other parts had function.

      Besides, he built it for himself...NOT for people like you!!

    3. Re:Am I missing something? by alcmaeon · · Score: 1
      I could screw a $2.00 handle from HomeDepo to my case and carry it to a LAN party and still have time to actually play the game. Or, even better, I could just take my laptop.

      I'm not saying he made the case for me, just that he wasted he time. Had he made it for me, he would have wasted his time AND his money.

    4. Re:Am I missing something? by gykh · · Score: 1

      Well, some people do feel that a plain beige case does not really go with their non-beige home decor.

      I'm not saying there aren't idiotic case mods out there - just that if you can mod a pc to fit into something that doesn't look out of place in your living space, then it's a good thing.

    5. Re:Am I missing something? by alcmaeon · · Score: 1
      Well, that is a good point. My PC's (meaning Intel or AMD boxes) sit in a closet. The only computers in my house that are "displayed" are the Macs, the NeXTs, and the SGI's.

      However, the very design philosophy behind these machines goes beyond that physical to the architectural and software design and is what sets them apart from the PC's.

      No amount of paint or drilling and cutting is ever going to make a PC anything other than a PC, though it can be helped along by installing BSD or Linux on it. :-)

      Alcmaeon

  52. reasons for actions by MegaFur · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Maybe the grammar nazi did get it, but chose to ignore it because it allowed him to bring in the word "plankeye". I have to admit, it's a pretty cool word. I can just see him champing at the bit (chomping? champing? what-the-fuck-ever) to use it.

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  53. FCC Part 15 Compliance? by BigBlockMopar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    All these cases are neat. Though I hate to be a killjoy, it's what I do best.

    How is RFI suppression handled in these clear plastic cases?

    Keeping your computer case closed to RF is generally a good idea.

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    Fire and Meat. Yummy.
    1. Re:FCC Part 15 Compliance? by prockcore · · Score: 1

      How is RFI suppression handled in these clear plastic cases?

      I dunno, how does Apple do it on the G4 Cube? It's clear plastic, and there isn't any wire mesh or anything.

      I'm thinking that RFI suppression isn't nearly a big a deal as it used to be. Everyone I know runs their computers with the cases open, no one has problems with radio or TV reception.

    2. Re:FCC Part 15 Compliance? by Micro$will · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think most interference would be in the 33, 66, and 100 - 200 Mhz range. The only frequencies over 200 Mhz are inside the processor, under the heat sink and heat spreader and far too weak to cause any interference.

    3. Re:FCC Part 15 Compliance? by oilfieldtrash · · Score: 2, Informative

      My handheld aviation transceiver picks up quite a bit of noise around most (metal box) computers. I have to turn the squelch up a couple of notches.

      So apparently some energy in the 118.000 - 136.975 MHz band is emitted from cases which comply with Part 15.

      I'll have to pull off a side panel sometime and see how much worse it gets.

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      ----- Quemadmodum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est.
  54. Re:The ultimate case mod... by briansz · · Score: 1


    But why do people insist on paying rediclous amounts of money for something that doesn't increase performance?

    For the same reason that someone will buy a Ferrari for $80K that is slower in the 1/4 mile than some Honda the Ricers build for $20K.

    It has to do with enlargement, IMO. And I don't mean spam.

  55. Looks like extruded aluminum by cosyne · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If you wanted more flexibility than you get from a kit, you could try 80/20 aluminum extrusion. They have various hardware, plastic panels, etc.

  56. Hate to be a wet blanket, but... by KC7GR · · Score: 5, Informative

    Self-building a system, especially with a creative enclosure, is never a Bad Thing. However, there is one very important -- I would even say 'critical' -- aspect of doing so that no one seems to be paying attention to, and it applies to ANY computer case that is not a full wrap-around all-metal enclosure.

    Specifically: Unless you take explicit steps to electrically shield the transparent parts, the enclosure will never meet FCC Part 15 requirements for not radiating RF energy, or being susceptible to outside RFI (Radio Frequency Interference).

    Here's the filthy details, and some more info on why this is a Bad Thing. Early computer systems and peripherals were classed as "Unintentional Radiators" under part 15.3(z) of the FCC regs. Later, as processor speeds climbed, an additional category of 'Digital Device' was created under part 15.3(k).

    It was under this part that two subclasses were created. You may have heard references to something being a "Class A Computing Device" in the commercial world, or a "Class B Computing Device" in the consumer world. Both of these subclasses have to do with how much RF the device radiates under normal use, and how much potential it has to interfere with other nearby devices, including TV's, stereos, etc. The ARRL's web site has a page that summarizes this, and provides a great explanation on the issue of what 'harmful interference' is, and what the rules say about responsibility for solving issues involving it.

    The Reader's Disgust version is this: Sure, you can build your computer into the flashiest Lexan-and-Aluminum enclosure you can find. You can equip it with all kinds of see-through parts, flashing LEDs, and other useless fluff to your heart's content.

    HOWEVER -- remember that any material other than metal, solid or mesh, is going to be pretty much transparent to whatever RF energy your system spews into the surrounding environment in the course of its normal operation. If your flashy see-through system causes interference to ANY other RF-using device that is NOT covered by Part 15, to the point where said device cannot operate properly, it is YOUR responsibility to clean it up, electrically speaking.

    Transparency to RF is a two-edged sword. You might get incredibly lucky, in that your way-cool see-through system might not be causing any interference at all. But what happens when, just as one example, the ham radio operator next door to you starts transmitting with a 1,000-watt-plus signal? (Yes, we are allowed to use that kind of power, and more).

    Another example: What happens if a cop, the paramedics, or anyone else with a portable transceiver happens to transmit with said portable and they happen to be close to your computer at the same time?

    Either way, a good chunk of the RF energy from those transmissions are going to go straight into your computer, because all that Lexan is going to let it in like a firehose stream through tissue paper. At best, your system may lock up or reboot unexpectedly. At worst, you could be looking at hard drive corruption.

    And guess who's responsible for clearing up the resultant mess? Not the ham radio op. What they're doing is covered very well indeed under FCC Part 97. (That's not to say they'd just tell you to fix it yourself -- most hams are pretty nice about helping you to fix such issues if their transmitters appear to be wreaking havoc, but the ultimate responsibility lies with the owner of the Part 15 device).

    Not the cops, paramedics, or whoever else was using the portable radio either. They're operating perfectly within the limits of their FCC license as well. No, the onus for fixing the problem lands right back on your shoulders, as the computer owner, all because you wanted a

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    Bruce Lane, KC7GR,

    Blue Feather Technologies

  57. also featured at quakecon 2003 by unborracho · · Score: 1

    These cases were also featured at quakecon 2003 (pic)... just a nifty little tidbit..

    yes, that is a computer. Yes, it looks like an airplane... yes it works =) I saw it working with my own two eyes.

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    "You had this look that of an angel, it was such a bad disguise" --Dishwalla
  58. TWO floppy drives! by FatSean · · Score: 1

    Not one...TWO! Wow. Now what would you use those for?

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    1. Re:TWO floppy drives! by AKnightCowboy · · Score: 1
      Not one...TWO! Wow. Now what would you use those for?

      "diskcopy A: B:" silly. Geez, kids these days. Also you can play multidisk games without switching disks as much.

  59. Trackpoint = Nipple-mouse by zanderredux · · Score: 1

    Erm... convenience? IMHO, Trackpoints are hardly ergonomical, since they usually cause strain to the shoulder articulation...

    1. Re:Trackpoint = Nipple-mouse by pocopoco · · Score: 1

      WTF? Is there a study for this you can link? I've been using trackpoints for half a decade and the only thing that's ever gotten tired or strained is the tip of my finger (and the only thing that need move at all is the finger itself). Both pads and mice require far more movement. I doubt you've even touched a trackpoint before...

  60. Re:TAIWAN, Republic of CHINA by Oliver+Aaltonen · · Score: 1, Informative
    According to this site:

    Taiwan's modern history goes back about 400 years, to the day when the first Western ship passed by the island, and Jan Huygen van Linschoten, a Dutch navigator on a Portugese ship, exclaimed "Ilha Formosa" (Beautiful Island).

  61. Re:Now see, this is a LITTLE off topic by Cap'nCrunk · · Score: 1

    You could also check out Cappuccino PCs, they have a wider selection and even carry barebones kits.

  62. Worries.... by plsander · · Score: 2, Informative

    Heat, Dust -- how about Radio Frequency (RF) interferance? Both in and out of the computer.

  63. Hugliest case contest? by AchilleTalon · · Score: 1
    After looking at the site I just think it is a very bad idea to let Joe Smith built is own case. It is looking like early Internet personal web pages.

    Flashy and hugly!

    Anyone has built an Eiffel tower or Golden Gate bridge computer case?

    Unless someone can build a case looking like this one. I can reconsider my position...

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    Achille Talon
    Hop!
  64. Reality vs. Theory by HardCase · · Score: 3, Informative
    While I don't take issue with the technical accuracy of what you've said, from a practical point of view, these "cases", while not the greatest thing from an RF point of view, probably won't radiate enough energy to bother a transistor radio sitting a foot away. I spent several years working in an EMI lab testing electronic components and from experience I know that a PC, even a multi-gigahertz one, radiates very little RF energy.


    As for problems with EMI reception...well, I suppose that if my next door neighbor had a kilowatt transmitter, the antenna in the backyard would be a dead giveaway and I might think twice before building one of these systems. But, apart from an extreme case like that, PCs are really quite immune from RF interference. A great deal of the design work that goes into the actual chips on the boards is devoted to EMI and ESD rejection. Critical signals are routed differentially. Signals on the PCB are (relatively) low frequency and routed with an eye toward reducing EMI transmission and susceptability.


    My current work involves designing and simulating high speed digital systems. Part of that design work is to determine both how well the network rejects EMI and how little it radiates. And, as I mentioned before, short an extreme case (like the 1000 watt Ham transmitter), it is virtually impossible to couple enough energy onto the transmission lines to cause any trouble. And the amount of energy radiated beyond a foot or so is almost unmeasurable.


    So, from a practical point (electrically speaking), these "cases", such as they are, are probably not the EMI terrors that one might thing. That being said, I sure wouldn't want one around my cat.


    -h-

    1. Re:Reality vs. Theory by KC7GR · · Score: 1

      Good info, thanks much! Come to think of it, I was a little surprised that my dual-CPU Athlon system didn't radiate much of anything when I had its guts open on my workbench.

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      Bruce Lane, KC7GR,

      Blue Feather Technologies

  65. Curved rods and curved glass by Linuxathome · · Score: 1

    The kits need curved rods and a cutting tool that can cut the plexi in anything other than straight lines. You're too limited with straight edges.

  66. Looks like 80/20 by stokes · · Score: 1

    This looks like a reduced-scale version of 80/20, an industrial product typically used for building custom workbenches, robot chassis and the like. I wonder how the prices compare. The 80/20 web site is here: http://www.8020.net/

    1. Re:Looks like 80/20 by JasonAsbahr · · Score: 1

      Wow! Those 80/20 parts are cool. I didn't see any pricing on the site, though.

  67. Construx by Erratio · · Score: 1

    Just dig some Construx out of your basement and build a case out of them. Those come complete with little astronaut decorations.

    I've actually been waiting for a modular case solution...as long as it's done well.

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    I don't try to be right, I just try to make people think
  68. I worked for the very first Fry's Electronics by Penguinshit · · Score: 1

    Fry's was originally a supermarket in the Santa Clara valley (what became known as "Silicon Valley"). When Safeway started to move in, the Fry brothers saw the writing on the wall and applied the supermarket model to electronics.

    The very first store was on Arques/Lawrence Expressway, very close to Hwy 101. It was before they decided to tart them up with amusement park style "themes" (in fact, when the original store moved across and slightly south on Lawrence, it became the first "theme" store done up to appear as if you were inside a giant PC case).

    I remember being 16 and responding to a newspaper ad. My interview consisted of:

    "Do you know what a nano-second is?"
    "Yes."
    "Good. You're a computer technician. Here's your cross-reference catalog."
    "Crossed what..?"
    "Get out on the floor. You're already 5 minutes late. Once more and you're fired."

    I stuck around about 6 months and bailed (after daily abuse by management and customers [this was back when engineers were really still engineers]).. It was fun to come back from lunch and see all the middle manager types holding a PC Magazine sideways and open to the middle.. you sneak up behind and comment on the poorly-hidden Hustler centerfold they're drooling over and laugh as they drop both mags and run for the door.

    All of the security in the stores is actually geared toward preventing employee-theft than customer-theft (especially after a rash of "returns" by friends of employees.. hence the strip search at the exits).

    If you know what you're doing, Fry's can be a great place to get all manner of equipment for a decent price. If you are a clueless civilian noob, you're gonna get fucked six ways to Sunday by mouth-breathing staff and the re-shrinkwrapped, re-shelved DOA parts.

  69. Re:What's a good car? by Afrosheen · · Score: 1

    How the hell did you avoid -2 offtopic moderation? Just amazing.

  70. Re:TAIWAN, Republic of CHINA by miguel_at_menino.com · · Score: 1

    Right, "Ilha Formosa" isn't Dutch.

  71. Re:The server's in Taiwan by UserGoogol · · Score: 1

    Okay, I guess I was wrong, but the Nationalists founded the current government of Taiwan, and top level domains are assigned with respect to countries, not cultures. So I was almost right.

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    "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity." -- Hanlon's Razor
  72. Techbench Godsend by BloodAngel_Au · · Score: 1

    Yay! now my techbench at home/work can have somewhere other than a blank wooden board as a testbeanch machine :) I regularly swap out componants on my home server, and testing 20 motherboards can get really, really fucking annoying putting them in and out of a case, so this is a great item for techs like me :)

    P.S. the server is stored in a plexifronted shelf under my workbench, runs at 55 C but for NSW, Aus thats not a bad temp, and the munchkin can smack it as much as she wants :)

  73. Coming soon to a TV near you... by jo42 · · Score: 1


    South Park - Case Mods are Gay