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Gentoo Linux 2004.0 Released
Quique writes "Gentoo Linux is proud to announce the release of Gentoo Linux 2004.0 for the x86, AMD64, PowerPC, Sun SPARC, and SGI MIPS architectures. Additionally, the Gentoo Hardened team is announcing the inaugural release of a security-enhanced Gentoo platform for the x86 architecture.
Installation stages, LiveCDs, and GRP sets can be
found on the mirrors.
More information about the Gentoo Hardened project
can be found on its project page.
For more information, please consult the
documentation,
mailing lists,
user forums and official IRC channels.
The new Gentoo
Store has also been announced." I've put more of the release notes below - might also be worth checking out the tutorial for LPI certification done by the President/CEO of Gentoo; there's also a note about Gentoo's newest meta-release tool, Catalyst below as well. Looks like it's not out yet - stay tuned for more information.
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In addition to many bugfixes and security updates since the 1.4 release,
Gentoo Linux 2004.0 contains a cutting-edge development toolchain and user
environment including, but not limited to, Linux kernel 2.6.3, GCC 3.3.2,
GLIBC 2.3.2, KDE 3.2, GNOME 2.4.2, and xfce4.
Gentoo Linux 2004.0 marks the debut of Catalyst, the new Gentoo release meta-tool. Using Catalyst, developers and users can create and customize every aspect of their Gentoo Linux system; from installation stages, to bootable LiveCDs, to customized binary packages for the Gentoo Reference Platform (GRP). For more information on Catalyst, please see the Catalyst project page and online documentation."
# emerge sync
# emerge -uD world
Also note that existing gentoo users only need to "emerge -[D]u world" to upgrade to the 2004 release.
Karma cannot be described by words alone.
The stages that say 2004.0 are only for Hardened Systems I hear, the mirrors haven't updated yet
Setec Astronomy
Note, you'll only get a 2.6.x kernel if you put ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" in your /etc/make.conf file before or after "emerge system." The current gentoo-sources kernel is 2.4.22-r7. gentoo-dev-sources is the one that will give you a 2.6.x kernel, presently 2.6.3-r2.
I know it was probably meant to be funny, but just to clarify, they changed the naming format.
It goes something like this (I believe):
There will be about 4 official releases per year and the releases will be named by the year followed by which release it is.
So since this is the first release of 2004 the name is '2004.0'. The next release should be '2004.1'. The first release next year will be '2005.0' and so forth.
I hope I got this right.
Art by Mindy Herman, my wife.
That's why Gentoo Linux LiveCDs provide GRP (Gentoo Reference Platform): a complete set of precompiled per-architecture-optimized binary packages a-la-slackware (including X, KDE, OpenOffice and more) to speed up the installation process for those who don't want or can't wait for compile process to complete.
I went to three diff mirrors. No ISO for 2004.0/livecd/x86
???
What gives???
Tom
Someday, I'll have a real sig.
Has anyone here installed Gentoo on a dual-boot configuration?
/boot is big enough to hold the kernel, you can boot pretty much anything.
I think these days pretty much all distros are equally good dual-booters. If you have grub, and
As long as you order all the distros *not* to touch your boot config, that is. Install the boot configuration once with a distro you trust, and take advantage of the config with subsequent distros.
Save your wrists today - switch to Dvorak
A clarification - I just checked out the gentoo page, and they talk about support for Sun Ultra, not SunSparc.
A Sparc5 is different than an Ultra5... I'm going to try it on one of the Ultra5's I have sitting around and see how it goes.
It will be nice to upgrade it from the RedHat 5.2 that it currently is running, all things considered.
I'm using dual boot Gentoo/WinXP on my laptop, without problems.
Gentoo's installation guide will tell you how to set up a dual-boot configuration *properly*, with no wizards or anything, just plain old text file editing.
If that sounds daunting, don't worry because it's as easy as pie. Personally, I use grub, with a config file a bit like this:
# Gentoo
title=Gentoo Linux (linux-2.6.1-mm4 kernel)
root (hd0,1)
kernel (hd0,1)/boot/bzImage-2.6.1-mm4 root=/dev/hde5
# Windows XP
title=Windows XP Professional
root (hd0,0)
chainloader (hd0,0)+1
Dual boot couldn't be easier.
I tried Gentoo on my notebook, and it seemed that support for PCMCIA and wireless just wasn't all that great. Documentation for such issues was pretty much non-existant at the time.
Has this improved? Any Gentoo want to point me towards portable nirvana?
Jonathan
USE flags. They let you compile in (or out!) support for whatever you want in your system, which is great for custom-tailoring your own sets of packages for whatever tasks.
:)
Otherwise, you could just use the binary packages, and it'd be quite a bit like any other distro.
pb Reply or e-mail; don't vaguely moderate.
You can emerge binary only packages in Gentoo. emerge --usepkg gets you the binary only.
If you still want to compile everything, get distcc and let your beefier hardware do the trick.
Linux - Because Mommy taught me to Share.
To get the equivalent of MS' "Just download the updates & inform me when they're ready to install:
#!/bin/bash
emerge sync >/dev/null
emerge -uDp world
emerge -uDf world
Cron should take care of mailing you the result.
I'm presently running Gentoo on my dual boot snow ibook. The fact is that I would prefer Debian; I used to run Debian exclusively on this machine's predecessor, a blueberry that couldn't handle the static electricity of the winter of 2002-2003. :) Unfortunately I spent half a year trying to get Debian X to work on this machine with no luck. I finally discovered that the version of X with the correct drivers is still considered experimental. I never could get any luck figuring out how to rehome my machine to get the right XFree86, and finally decided Gentoo would be easier, which it was.
I like Gentoo. I admit it seems speedy (though this is the fastest machine I've ever owned). I used to like compiling my own Linux distro through Linux From Scratch and sort of like the idea that everything on this machine was compiled for source (though since I didn't do it manually myself I don't have quite the same since of satisfaction). That said, Gentoo currently doesn't offer anything that will make me stay with it after Debian catches up. Worst of all, I have some doubts that all of the software I can emerge is under licensing schemes I want; they seem to be a little bit more lax about that than RedHat and Debian.
Secession is the right of all sentient beings.
There's a thread on the mailing list about this issue here
According to /. from last wednesday Gentoo is also boycotting XFree86 due to the licensing issues of 4.4
...done!
They have their own release of 4.3 listed as current:
mediaman root # emerge xfree -p
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies
[ebuild U ] x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r5 [4.3.0-r3]
mediaman root #
That is correct. The gentoo team is considering moving to The Y Windowing System instead, when Y is more mature.
MOUNT TAPE U1439 ON B3, NO RING
Since all the servers are getting hammered pretty hard, this should be mentioned. If you have run
sudo emerge sync
sudo emerge -uD world
in the past few weeks, there's nothing new out there for you. All you'll get is the new packages (like always) and bragging rights to run a "new version." There's not even a new minor 2.4 kernel version - I've been running 2.4.25 since it was released.
So, you do NOT need to sync up now. Especially not while half the slashdot userbase is doing so. You're pounding the living **** out of the servers, and for no good reason. If you must get new everything, whether to brag about running "version 2004" or what have you, su to root and set an at job to do so late tonight. Thank you for making Gentoo usable for people who actually NEED to update.
On the Gentoo Weekly Newsletter they say:
perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5, (41*2), sqrt(7056), (unpack(c,H)-2), oct(115), 10);'
The trick is not NOT 'emerge kde' but to 'emerge kdebase'
kdebase has the window manager, a slew of the basics (kedit, kate, konsole, konqueror, etc.) in it and I've found that it satisfies most of my KDE needs.
Also, QT and kdelibs are what really take a long time to compile.
Try compiling with '-mcpu=|yourcpu| -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer' and see how much faster it compiles, -O3 is a misnomer, it's actually slower to execute a lot of -O3 code than -O2, and -O3 takes a hell of a lot longer to compile.
"Sometimes, I think Trent just needs a cup of hot chocolate and a blankie." -Tori Amos on Nine Inch Nails
Someone finally gets it. It isn't the CFLAGS so much as the USE flags. Don't want evolution to build with PDA support? -pda. Want to make sure that nothing on your system gets built with X support (because this machine doesn't run X): -X. Gnome fanatic that wants to be free of all traces of kde? -kde. vice-versa for the kde fans. That's the level of control you can't get on a "binaries only" distro.
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Crudely Drawn Games
Yep, because of the way gentoo works the only real difference between 2004.0 and 1.4 is possibly how much you have to upgrade afterwards.
;)
So you are correct in thinking that the only thing you have to do in order to "upgrade" to 2004.0 is "emerge sync && emerge -pDu world".
As far as devfs goes, it gets the job done while udev is still VERY much in development. udev is fun to play with if nothing else, though.
That gets funnier every time someone cut-and-pastes it. I salute you!
Stating on Slashdot that I like cheese since 1997.
Application speed can be significant, it all depends on what kind of app... A simple low-life editor such as Vi will run fast on anything beyond a 286, and will be I/O-limited when you work with larger files. OpenSSH, OpenSSL, rendering programs, graphics programs etc tend to enjoy a greater benefit from optimizations for your architecture, especially if you enable the use of MMX/3DNOW/SSE and similar extensions. Even though GCC is not auto-vectorizing, those programs do gain a noticeable boost from enabling those extensions.
Don't ask me why, but one of my servers (running Debian) creates a lot of animated gif files automatically. Using the version of ImageMagick provided by Debian, this job typically takes 2 seconds per gif file.
Just for fun I recompiled a static version of ImageMagick using gcc 3.3, with Pentium IV optimizing, on a RedHat Linux box, and tried running these binaries on my Debian box. And you know what? The same job now takes just under one second.
So for me recompiling was a significant factor for speeding up my program.
A few months ago when I was using Gentoo (unstable, admittedly- I don't know about stable) all I had to do was 'emerge udev' and the boot scripts automatically took care of everything.
In short, either devfs or udev worked.
Not according to this livecd review... Between Knoppix, MandrakeMove, and Slax, which were chosen as the most newbie-friendly LiveCDs (and what are live cds for other than convincing newbies?) MandrakeMove was favored by a test group with no linux experience.
fam-2.7.0 emake error
It wouldn't build fam-2.7.0 which was one of the packages required by KDE 3.2.0. KDE was the first non-essential thing I tried to emerge on a fresh install. The build script was fixed some time later, and an "emerge sync" allowed KDE to build properly.
When someone might yell at me, it has to be OpenBSD.
uh, -U and -u are somewhat redundant, you should use -U if you have emerged masked versions of packages that you don't want to be downgraded when you do an update world, where -u assumes that you only want those packages that are unmasked even if that means getting an older version of said packages.
Too bad there's been an official announcement, then.
I'm wondering, is it worthwhile to abandon my current install and use a 2004.0 install (which currently does not have packages for athlon xp) or to stick with my 1.4 athlon-xp specific install and then upgrade to the latest packages?
You can with etcat, but you'll need to emerge gentoolkit to get that command. I'm not sure if they added it to the base install yet.
In general you have very few problems with this. Obviously removing glibc, pam, etc would break things and Gentoo doesn't protect you from that, yet. But how often do people start removing libs from a *nix box? I'd put people that do in the same category as those who like to "clean up all those little files in my C drive that are just sitting there."
The more likely scenario is upgrading something fairly important. The big one was the upgrade mysql from 3.x to 4.x which broke postfix, proftpd, php, and half a dozen other things if you have mysql support compiled in. portage doesn't re-emerge all the packages automatically though it does provide tools to help you fix it after you've broken it. Once they finish the reverse dependency which has been in the works for awhile this problem goes away.
kashani
- Why is the ninja... so deadly?
The topic of the official #gentoo channel says:
"Gentoo Linux || ignore slashdot and various other news-sites, 2004.0 is not released"
I have a dual boot system with Windows XP Pro and Gentoo. The gentoo installation guide is extremely useful. Anytime you're running UNIX commands such as fdisk and grub it is easy to shoot yourself in the foot. This is where the installation guide really comes through.
Mandrake's installer is definitely easier, but then it doesn't have the portage systems. I am a former Mandrake user and believe me I felt empowered when I switched from RPM to portage. Once you setup Gentoo, it is very easy to extend and maintain.
The docs are the best I've ever seen. You should definitely give Gentoo a shot. The docs will guide you through setting up a dual boot.
"A diplomat is a man who always remembers a woman's birthday but never remembers her age." -Robert Frost
Topic says "Gentoo Linux || ignore slashdot and various other news-sites, 2004.0 is not released."
What's going on? OSNews and Slashdot both reported it's out. Did someone see the 2004.0 file on FTP and get jumpy? That file's been there for quite a while.
look at debootstrap. It allows you to install debian into a chroot.
Unfortunately, the file is in the releases directory and is dated today. Also, Hemos is clearly referring to Catalyst, not Gentoo. Grow up.
It got modded back down because you posted. Read the mod guidlines before using your mod points.
On the other hand I think the people running Gentoo on Zauruses are nuts. Gentoo might be good, but man if there was ever a place for Debian that was it!
Actually, assuming you cross compile all the source you won't be putting the thing though much stress at all, so it's not as if it'd do any harm. If anything a handheld is a great place for gentoo as with a relatively low performance cpu it would benefit the most from the optimisations that compiling would give you.
% mkdir
% ls -dF
"Gentoo Linux || ignore slashdot and various other news-sites, 2004.0 is not released."
Unfortunately, the file is in the releases directory and is dated today.
Yeah, that's the experimental 2004.0 file that's been there for at least a MONTH. It gets routinely updated.
Next time before you call someone a "troll," look into it first.
here are the torrents:n s/browse_di stro.php?distro_id=7&expand_version=9
http://www.tlm-project.org/distributio
That should actually be -march=cputype
-mcpu dictates that the code should be scheduled for your cpu type, but will still be backwards compatible with 386's. Using march will let you use instructions that are only available on newer cpus. For personal use, there's seldom need for compatibility with other machines.
I have never had a machine that was overclocked in any way successfully install Gentoo
You must be doing something wrong then. I've got a 2.4C pushed over 3.3 running Gentoo with a gig adata pc500 running 1:1 memory divider. It screams with the UT2004 demo and my FX5900. I ran memtest off the Gentoo boot cd all night with no errors. CPU voltage is at 1.6v and mem voltage is at 3.0v. I use an MSI Neo2-LS. If you plan on running a 1:1 divider, save your money and avoid the 875 chipset boards. The performance with the 865 is identical with the 1:1 ratio. I'd avoid reiserfs like the plague with any overclocked board though. EXT3 is a much better choice.
For every annoying gentoo user, are three even more annoying anti-gentoo crybabies. Take Yosh from #Gimp for example.
Apr 1 2003 Gentoo Weekly Newsletter:
Portage 2.1 to adopt RPM format for LSB compliance
In what will likely prove to be a controversial decision, Portage 2.1 will adopt the RPM format for all packages moving forward. The use of ebuilds will be deprecated in favor of the defacto RPM standard. The primary driver for this decision was to ensure compliance with the Linux Standard Base specification, which mandates RPM support for package management.
The developers have been hard at work to make this migration as easy as possible. Already a proof-of-concept ebuild2rpm script is in place and being tested by a pilot group of developers. Unfortunately, because of the architectural differences between the two formats, some features will not be supported once Gentoo moves to RPM. USE variables are one such feature; sandbox security is another. However, the added benefit brought about by full LSB compliance should far outweigh the loss of these two minor features.
Additionally, because of LSB's required library support, the xfree86 package will move to become part of the base Gentoo Linux system, rather than an optional addition. Users interested in learning more about the Linux Standard Base should read the LSB FAQ or the full LSB 1.3 specification.