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Dolemite_the_Wiz writes "The BBC reports that Monty Python's 'Life of Brian' will be re-released, with the remaining Python troupe's full support, in US theaters next month. The Film's Distributor, Rainbow Film Company are marketing the film as an alternative to all the hype that Mel Gibson's film 'The Passion of the Christ' has generated. Trailers for the Film will begin running in theaters on Good Friday. Wait until Biggus Dickus hears about this!"

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  1. what have the romans ever done for us?? by xao+gypsie · · Score: 5, Funny

    .....They brought us the aqueducts....

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    1. Re:what have the romans ever done for us?? by REBloomfield · · Score: 4, Funny

      and the wine....

    2. Re:what have the romans ever done for us?? by banzai51 · · Score: 4, Funny

      ..and the roads. Those are pretty useful.

    3. Re:what have the romans ever done for us?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...exept for the aqueducts, wine, and roads, what have the romans ever done for us?

    4. Re:what have the romans ever done for us?? by EnderWiggnz · · Score: 4, Funny

      you know wha i love about pseudo-religious threads on slashdot?

      the idiots out themselves.

      sigh... yep - that historical character Noah was the first to make wine - whatever.

      its not like the entire flood story was a rip of the Gilgamesh legend.

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    5. Re:what have the romans ever done for us?? by Punk+Walrus · · Score: 4, Funny

      Under what, look-and-feel? No, wait, that's altar boys. Never mind.

    6. Re:what have the romans ever done for us?? by zerocool^ · · Score: 4, Funny

      Brought peace?

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    7. Re:what have the romans ever done for us?? by tilmanb · · Score: 3, Funny

      Shut up!

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    8. Re:what have the romans ever done for us?? by falzer · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sure, sure, but what have they done recently?

    9. Re:what have the romans ever done for us?? by IceAgeComing · · Score: 3, Funny


      I completely agree! All we ever do is talk, talk, talk. It's about time we get up and actually DO something!

  2. A bomb? What are you giving him a bomb for? by deman1985 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I never got the chance to see the movies on the big screen, so it will certainly be an interesting experience to have it in theaters again. I can only imagine the kind of crowds it will draw, though :)

    1. Re:A bomb? What are you giving him a bomb for? by SRain315 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      For those who can't wait, there's an interview with Eric Idle [RealPlayer Audio] from yesterday's "Which Way, L.A.?" program on KCRW. Apparently, the Pythons want to cash in on the furor over "Passion of the Christ." In the interview, Eric claims he's a "lapsed anti-Catholic" and an "Alzhimer's agnostic" - great stuff!

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  3. I'm Not the Massiah, I'm Not the Massiah! by Yousef · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Only the Real Massiah would deny his divinity!"

    Gotta Love it!

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  4. Biggus Dickus... by SwansonMarpalum · · Score: 3, Informative

    ... can't hear about it because he's dead, you insensitive clod!

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  5. When it was originally released... by rokzy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    there was a heated debate on TV between Palin and some religious guy.

    Have religious people took the stick out their ass, or will there be more criticism?

    1. Re:When it was originally released... by REBloomfield · · Score: 4, Informative
      "yes, i appreciate that you approached this with an open mind"

      best. quote. ever.

    2. Re:When it was originally released... by jwthompson2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There will be lots of criticism from the likes of Pat Robertson and Falwell and the sort, but I, even as a southern baptist, appreciate this movie, considering it doesn't mock Christ as much as some might think...

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    3. Re:When it was originally released... by Mateito · · Score: 5, Interesting

      > considering it doesn't mock Christ as much as
      > some might think...

      With the exception of labelling Christ a "Bloody do-gooder", there is nothing againt him at all. He is shown first in the manger, then secondly giving the sermon on the mount.

      Who is does mock, however, are those factions within the church (and politics in general) who spend all their time bickering about inconsequencial differences rather than presenting a common front based on the 95% of their beliefs that co-incide.

      That's why some churches are dead against it.

      Still.. my favourite scene is the "romans go home" conjugation.

    4. Re:When it was originally released... by PGillingwater · · Score: 5, Informative

      There were two "religious guys" -- the Anglican Bishop and Southwark and a well-known religious commentator, Malcolm Muggeridge.

      Note that the movie was originally funded in part by George Harrison -- good friend of Eric Idle, who stepped in when the original backers, EMI, pulled out.

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    5. Re:When it was originally released... by stevelinton · · Score: 3, Interesting
      there was a heated debate on TV between Palin and some religious guy.


      Followed by a superb "Not the Nine O'Clock News" satirical sketch: a heated debate between a devoted follower of the Church of Python and a Bishop about "The General Synod's Life of Christ" -- an obvious parody of the life of our comic messiah John Cleese -- even the initials are the same!

      Does anyone have a transcript of this sketch?
    6. Re:When it was originally released... by jwthompson2 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I think you and the other people who echo your sentiments are dead on to what 'Life of Brian' is really mocking. I would disagree on one issue:

      ... rather than presenting a common front based on the 95% of their beliefs that co-incide.


      As a southern baptist, and I include that mostly as a disclaimer, I would say there is a vast bit more difference than you imply. The issue of whether homosexuals, women and divorcees should be allowed and to what extent and in what roles they should be allowed to serve in ministry is a big deal, because the Bible makes it an issue. Also, the inerrancy of scripture and the greater doctrine of 'sola scriptura' is a big deal. Many denominations however are wavering on these issues and many others. I would agree though that some issues shouldn't divide us as much as they do, Armenianism vs. Calvinism produces flamewars beyond the comprehension of /.ers as does the debates over eschatology and church polity issues. I would agree with you that we are probably more divided as a faith than necessary, but some issues are worth fighting for and as a Christian should be fought for, otherwise we risk losing something very important, the truth in favor of opinions and feelings.

      I inserted a real religious post, may the flamewar begin and my karma plummit...
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    7. Re:When it was originally released... by sugar+and+acid · · Score: 3, Informative

      >atheism is not a religion. there are many types of atheism, >but basically it's about not *believing* in God, NOT >believing there isn't a God. there is a difference.

      Nope, Atheist are more anti-god, stating firmly that god doesn't exist. Agnostics take the view that there is no good evidence that god exists, then again there is evidence that he doesn't but we tend to lean towards no god, this is your erroneous description of an atheist. So Agnostics take the view that there is no compelling reason to get on either side of this debate, just don't bug me about it unless you can prove without a doubt your position. To put my position another way, agnostics don't want to spend the time and energy on a stupid fight over a stupid point, believe what you want and stay out of my face and we can all be happy. This still includes opposing religion in school and government and other inappropriate venues. Atheist are more annoyed by the existence of religion at all and actively fight against it.

      An observation I have made is atheist tend to be from religious backgrounds, and often the only way to move away from that is a complete, and nearly violent rejection of religion. Fighting the strong religious influence with a similarly strong rejection of god at some point in their life.

    8. Re:When it was originally released... by R.Caley · · Score: 3, Interesting
      With the exception of labelling Christ a "Bloody do-gooder", there is nothing againt him at all.

      It amazed me at the time that there were so many supposed christians campagning against the most christian film I had ever seen. LoB manages to be very humane and also very positive towards christianity, not an easy combination to pull off.

      The big biblical epics took more liberties with christianity than LoB did (compressing events and so on). Things I have read about Gibson's film indicates he does too.

      I presume we are in for a good summer of weirdoes and loonies complaining about LoB and praising Gibson. I do home sometime I see one of these people pinned down and asked to name where exactly the pythons clash with scripture.

      Just because the gospels don't mention the space battle, that doesn't mean it didn't happen!

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  6. Thoughts... by jwthompson2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Although I seriously doubt it will be as widely popular; I am am excited about seeing this on the big screen. Great movie, even if it could be considered sacrilege...

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  7. Re:Re Re Re released by Anita+Coney · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Have you ever seen a movie in a theater?! I have, it's a heck of a lot better than watching it at home. Thus, THAT'S the advantage of re-releasing a movie to the theater. We get a chance, or a second chance, to see a great movie on a large screen.

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  8. Cue 400 posts of everyone's favourite bits... by JosKarith · · Score: 5, Funny

    My personal favourite - Brian: "You are all individuals" Crowd: "We are all individuals my lord" Lone voice from the back: "No I'm not!"

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  9. Can't wait, seriously can't wait. by The+I+Shing · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Every scene in that movie is hilarious, from the shopkeeper who refuses to sell a fake beard without haggling first, to the Roman guard who insists that grafitti in the Latin language be grammatically correct.

    I'm going to round up everyone I know who's never seen it and drag them to the cinema.

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    1. Re:Can't wait, seriously can't wait. by REBloomfield · · Score: 5, Funny

      CENTURION:
      What's this, then? 'Romanes Eunt Domus'? 'People called Romanes they go the house'?
      BRIAN:
      It-- it says, 'Romans, go home'.
      CENTURION:
      No, it doesn't. What's Latin for 'Roman'? Come on!
      BRIAN: Aah!
      CENTURION: Come on!
      BRIAN: 'R-- Romanus'?
      CENTURION: Goes like...?
      BRIAN: 'Annus'?
      CENTURION: Vocative plural of 'annus' is...?
      BRIAN: Eh. 'Anni'?
      CENTURION: 'Romani'. 'Eunt'? What is 'eunt'?
      BRIAN: 'Go'. Let--
      CENTURION: Conjugate the verb 'to go'.
      BRIAN: Uh. 'Ire'. Uh, 'eo'. 'Is'. 'It'. 'Imus'. 'Itis'. 'Eunt'.
      CENTURION: So 'eunt' is...?
      BRIAN: Ah, huh, third person plural, uh, present indicative. Uh, 'they go'.
      CENTURION: But 'Romans, go home' is an order, so you must use the...?
      BRIAN: The... imperative!
      CENTURION:
      Which is...?
      BRIAN:
      Umm! Oh. Oh. Um, 'i'. 'I'!
      CENTURION:
      How many Romans?
      BRIAN:
      Ah! 'I'-- Plural. Plural. 'Ite'. 'Ite'.
      CENTURION:
      'Ite'.
      BRIAN:
      Ah. Eh.
      CENTURION:
      'Domus'?
      BRIAN:
      Eh.
      CENTURION:
      Nominative?
      BRIAN:
      Oh.
      CENTURION:
      'Go home'? This is motion towards. Isn't it, boy?
      BRIAN:
      Ah. Ah, dative, sir! Ahh! No, not dative! Not the dative, sir! No! Ah! Oh, the... accusative! Accusative! Ah! 'Domum', sir! 'Ad domum'! Ah! Oooh! Ah!
      CENTURION:
      Except that 'domus' takes the...?
      BRIAN:
      The locative, sir!
      CENTURION:
      Which is...?!
      BRIAN:
      'Domum'.
      CENTURION:
      'Domum'.
      BRIAN:
      Aaah! Ah.
      CENTURION:
      'Um'. Understand?
      BRIAN:
      Yes, sir.
      CENTURION:
      Now, write it out a hundred times.
      BRIAN:
      Yes, sir. Thank you, sir. Hail Caesar, sir.
      CENTURION:
      Hail Caesar. If it's not done by sunrise, I'll cut your balls off.

      Your comment violated the "postercomment" compression filter. Try less whitespace and/or less repetition. Comment aborted.
      stupid lamesness filter.grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    2. Re:Can't wait, seriously can't wait. by R2.0 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I first saw this movie in high school when I was taking latin, taught by a nun.

      I was the only one curled up in a tight little ball suffocating from my own laughter at the thought of Sister Perpetua threatening to cut my balls off if I missed a pop quiz,

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  10. Can...not ....resist.... by kindbud · · Score: 4, Funny

    We-wewease Bwian!!

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  11. Re:Re Re Re released by sisco · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There are plenty of products on the market that prove that consumers do not act logically. Why else would people pay hundreds of dollars for a stuffed animal (a.k.a. beanie baby)???

    Or why do people trade most of their tax return in order to get credit to lease a car, that they will wind up paying wayyy more than what it is worth.

    Heck, I don't even make logical economical decisions all the time. Besides which, this offers the opportunity to go out and see it in the theatre... a potential good time with all your friends.

    anyway, point being... consumers aren't always logical.

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  12. one of the best lines ever written.... by corporatewhore · · Score: 5, Funny

    is when John Cleese asks "How shall we f*ck off, Oh Lord ?"
    Serioulsy, this one line and its context says more about religion turning into dogma than anything else I can think of...

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  13. Re:W00T by mirko · · Score: 5, Funny

    'Trolles Eunt Domus' ?
    Somebody called the trolls they go the house ?
    What's that supposed to mean ?
    it means "Firstus postus".
    -no it doesn't ! it'd be "trolli ite domum"
    Now, write it out a hundred times. If it's not done by sunrise, I'll cut your balls off.

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  14. Monty Python by eXtro · · Score: 5, Insightful

    have always been the masters of irreverence. The silly and sometimes seemingly lame sketches have always just been a veneer over them thumbing their noses at God, Queen and Country, bureaucracy, castes and whatever else they thought deserved a bit of a dressing down. Satire was their means of writing an indignant letter to the editor.

    I know in Canada This Hour has 22 Minutes fills a similar role, what American comedy troups or performers do this in the U.S.?

    1. Re:Monty Python by pknoll · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Comedy Central's "The Daily Show" is decent political satire. "Tough Crowd" also does a mix of political and social commentary, but for me is a bit hot and cold.

      Social satire prgramming includes (but is certainly not limited to) shows like "The Chappelle Show", "South Park", "The Simpsons" (which is still one of the most subtle), and when it was still airing, "Futurama". It's interesting how many of these kinds of programs are animated. Is it easier to speak dangerous words when your face isn't on the screen?

    2. Re:Monty Python by Jerf · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's interesting how many of these kinds of programs are animated. Is it easier to speak dangerous words when your face isn't on the screen?

      It's more flexible, which the satire can take advantage of to the hilt. On one of the Family Guy DVD commentaries, they observed how impossible the show would have been in live action, prompted by the show where Peter goes from fat slob, to thin slob, to thin, buff man, back to fat man in the course of half an hour. (Obviously you can fatten up an actor artificially, but the other direction is too violent to use for a TV show, and you certainly couldn't get them back to fat in one show's taping time.)

      Cartoon Nixon on Futurama is funnier then the real thing or an actor playing Nixon could ever have been. (On one of the Futurama commentaries, Matt Groening says when he was a kid he always dreamed of doing something to make fun of Nixon; he never dreamt how successful Nixon-mocking would be 25 years later... ;-) )

      Yes, I listen to the commentaries. Best part sometimes.

  15. Grail schmail by sketi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Call me flamebait, but I always thought Life of Brian was the Pythons' best work. Highly underrated, IMO.

  16. Jesus has risen from the dead and wants REVENGE! by Kris+Thalamus · · Score: 3, Funny

    If you like movies about re-animated corpses, you may also like the new version of Dawn of the Dead. Here is a review that compares the two films.

  17. I know this isn't Fark but.... by bloggins02 · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... SUMMON BEVETS!

  18. Re:Re Re Re released by xThinkx · · Score: 3, Insightful

    With as much crap as is released today, I'll gladly contribute my share to all of the folks who contributed to making and re-releasing this movie. I never understood why "timeless classics" stop playing in theaters. How many times have you wanted to go see a movie, in a theater (for a date, or just to get out of the house) and ended up watching something terrible like "scooby doo" because nothing good was playing? Life of Brian in the theaters will be an event to remember. Screw dressing up for star wars (every theatrical release of star wars post 1990 has been disappointing), I'm going to dig up my "Big Nose" costume.

    Hail theathar! and Welease Wodewik!

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  19. People called Roman, they go towards the house? by Thedalek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a thinking Christian (Yes, such can and do exist), I never really had a problem with Life of Brian. It contains nothing which denies or detracts from the life and acts of Jesus, and accurately portrays the unthinking masses in a clever and thought provoking way.

    Really, the whole point of the film is that an awful lot of people believe things without fully thinking them through.

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    1. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by FiloEleven · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's obvious that the irony is understood, otherwise the inclusion of the parenthetical statement "Yes, such can and do exist" would have been omitted. It seems to me that you're the unthinking one in this exchange, as you've labelled the original poster as one of the many blindly believing masses when he clearly stated (and you quoted) that he wasn't. Or are you really so stupid as to believe that no Christians have reasoned through their faith and still have it?

    2. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by Azghoul · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Oh, I don't know, I think being drawn and quartered would be worse. Actually, I don't know how you can say crucifixtion is any worse than most of the toys in a medieval torture chamber.

      But I'm not a christian...

    3. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by mav[LAG] · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Sorry, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
      Of course they do which I'll get to. It's funny though that you sound like some Christians I know when you say that :)

      You are putting words in my post that weren't there. I never said that Jesus wasn't a historical person. What I said was "myth" was the resurrection of Jesus Christ. There are lots of more mundane reasons for being unable to produce Jesus's body, such as the followers stealing it and hiding it where the authorities couldn't find it.

      Sorry about that - unintended. OK, so we're agreed Jesus was a historical figure who was executed for blasphemy during a Passover sometime in the early first century AD. We differ on whether he rose from the dead or not.
      The problem is your "more mundane explanations" are much harder to defend given the evidence we have - especially the "followers stole the body" theory.
      • The Jewish leaders already catered for the disciples trying this trick. They weren't stupid. They had been listening to him for nearly three years saying he would rise from the dead. So they asked the Romans to guard the tomb.
      • The disciples had just seen their leader and mentor die a horrible death in public. Are we to believe they sneaked out of their hiding place where they had scuttled in the aftermath, sneaked past or disabled the Roman guards, and removed the body somewhere, then waited six weeks, then suddenly appear in the middle of the Feast of Weeks proclaiming him to be alive? Not only that but for the rest of their natural lives, they live a lie, chased around the middle east, tortured, imprisoned and often eventually martyred, proclaiming something they knew to be a lie? Not even one of them cracked? Please.
        Instead, they suddenly appeared at a festival which has attracted righteous Jews from all over the area and preach that it was all part of God's plan that Jesus should die and rise again. Not only that but they claimed boldly and comprehensively how he is the Messiah who was promised in the writings they all know so well.

      Did Jesus really say he was the Messiah? That is a debate that biblical scholars are still having today.

      Yeah - he was executed for it.

      Most of that came from John, which is by far the most "out there" of the Gospels w.r.t. earthly vs. supernatural events.

      Not really. John only records seven miracles of Jesus - the least of all the gospels - because, and I paraphrase, "Jesus did all sorts of other things which would take all the books in the world to write down. I've carefully selected these ones in my account to show you who he was so that you might believe in him."

      The whole point of Occam's Razor is that you don't accept the extraordinary (read supernatural) explanations (e.g. resurrection, reincarnation, alien abduction) if there are more mundane explanations that explain the facts.

      That's a subtle and disingenuous misreading of the principle. Occam's razor says "of two competing theories or explanations, all other things being equal, the simpler one is to be preferred."
      (from here)

      So our two competing explanations are (if I have yours right - if not please correct me):

      • Mine: Jesus rose from the dead because he was who he claimed to be - God become man. He then appeared to his frightened followers who were transformed by the sight and experience of their risen Messiah into fearless preachers of the new faith.
      • Yours: Jesus died and sometime over the weekend the followers stole the body from a heavily guarded tomb and hid it somewhere else. Then they popped up and started claiming he was alive. All of them stuck to this same story for decades with no inconsistencies or cracking - all but one meeting horrible deaths because of this claim. ALong the way, thousands of others who they convinced also met horrible deaths.
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    4. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by Rostin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Until I see such logical proof of this or any other religion, I shall continue to label all followers as "blindly believing masses".

      Why are Christians (or any other religious people) obligated to prove to you that their beliefs are true before you concede the possibility that they are not all "blindly believing masses?" Why does my rationality (in your mind) depend on my ability to prove something to you?

      Let's say for the sake of argument that you are the only sighted person in a society of totally blind people. You try as hard as you can to explain to the blind people that there are such things as light and color, but the skeptics insist that you are being irrational, because your proofs are not convincing enough to overcome their inability to see. Leaving aside the whole issue of whether or not the blind people are being rational in denying the existence of color and light, are YOU being rational in affirming it? Does this suggest anything to you about the rationality of your blanket assertion of the irrationality of all religious people?

  20. Re:Jesus has risen from the dead and wants REVENGE by Chalybeous · · Score: 5, Funny

    Y'know, I think Jesus had one hell of a lag problem. It took him three days to re-spawn...

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  21. Shoe or gourd? by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm so confused, with all these movies about Christ that are out now, should I be following the shoe? Or the gourd?

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  22. Blessed are the Slashdotters by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 4, Interesting
    marketing the film as an alternative to all the hype that Mel Gibson's film 'The Passion of the Christ' has generated.

    The thumpers finally get a film and someone has to get all opposition-like. Sheesh. Let the fairy-tale sucklers have their little MOOvie.

    ObBrian: The graffiti scene is one of the greatest scenes ever filmed in movie history.

    "People called Romanes they go the house?" :-)

    Would a Hollywood film ever have fun with Latin?

    No. In the Hollywood version, they'd have to have to words "bitch" and "ass" in the scene 50 times, and there would be at least one fart.

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  23. Just read it by tmk · · Score: 3, Informative

    For those who cannot see it on the big screen:

    http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/sg/python/Scripts/LifeOfB ri an/brian.htm

  24. Mel explicitly stated that he added Marianism... by leonbrooks · · Score: 4, Interesting
    ...in fact, he was surprised that Evangelical Christians were so happy about his movie, given its heavy Marianism.

    For reference, the two main Marian manuscripts cited are "The Dolorous Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ" by Anne Catherine Emmerich and "The Mystical City of God" by Saint Mary of Agreda.

    If Jesus was just a clever, wise or insightful man, his entire life was essentially wasted, and on top of that he is recorded as lying about his abilities. All of the serious documentation we have available from the time (and there's a surprising amount of it) indicates that he was considerably more than that. Jesus is better documented than any of the Caesars. There's also a heck of a lot of non-literate archaeological evidence which is very difficult to explain if the canonical record is not reliable.

    But in everyday life "we're all individuals" and will carry on believing what the majority tell us. "I'm not!"

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  25. An OOP question by los+furtive · · Score: 4, Funny

    Did Jesus extend God, or did he just implement a Goldlike interface?

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    1. Re:An OOP question by happyfrogcow · · Score: 5, Funny

      what kind of crazy destructor would Jesus have? something that destroys him, but then calls a different constructor of his same type that casts him to a type Spirit from a type Messiah? Or would the destructor create a different instance of Jesus alltogether?

      weird wild stuff.

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    2. Re:An OOP question by pleumann · · Score: 5, Funny
      He can't be a descendant. God implements the Singleton pattern to ensure there are no duplicates of him. Since Singleton, if properly implemented (and I think we can surely assume that God's implementations are always flawless), also extends to subclasses, there could be no instance of Jesus, even if the class were declarable. So it may be best to assume that God is also a final class.



      I'd say Jesus uses the Proxy pattern to give people some sort of limited access to God by delegation. You could also see him as the stub object used to invoke a remote procedure call on God. Despite the seemingly matching name, Jesus does not implement the Visitor pattern. See the GOF book.



      Note that, even without Jesus, you can always initiate a client-server-communication with God bthrough a special form of message passing called "praying". Fun is, most people never get an acknowledge for the messages they've send, let alone a response.



      Very rarely people get messages from God without sending Him a message first. To do this, you need to implement the Prophet interface and register with God as an Observer.

  26. Re:Good idea !!! by Kris+Thalamus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Jesus had a father who was a god and a mother who was mortal, just like Hercules did. I think that Jesus should be considered a half-god like Hercules was. Hercules could probably beat Jesus in a fight- I mean, you couldn't kill Hercules just by nailing him to a wooden cross.

  27. Antisemitism complaints? by WormholeFiend · · Score: 3, Funny

    Monty Python's 'Life of Bwian' elicits stwong weaction

    By: Incontinentia Buttox, Staff Wepowtew

    Monty Python's 'Life of Bwian' gwossed ovew $117 million thwough its fiwst weekend.

    Thewe's talk of Oscaw nominations. Many Chwistians say the film moved them to teaws. But of the welatively few Cleveland Jews the JPPF found who have seen the movie, most wewe distuwbed by what twanspiwed on the scween.

    "It's a hawd movie to watch," says Wob Zimmewman, co-chaiw of the Judean Populaw People's Fwont of the Jewish Community Fedewation of Cleveland. "It's essentially two houws of Bwian being mistaken for the weal Jesus being stwuck vewy woughly and cwucified." Because of the gwaphic silliness, he is not wecommending that Jews ow anyone else go see "The Life."

  28. Re:Good idea !!! by DRUNK_BEAR · · Score: 3, Insightful
    yes... talking about context, having seen the movie helps getting and idea of the context.

    Now to add to what I said, Jesus was the son of God, granted. But the son of God was given to us in the human form. And what I said is that it seems humanly impossible (Health science people correct me if I'm wrong) to survive the first few steps of what Mel depicted as the passion of Christ, thus removing the human portion of Jesus and leaving only the Son of God part. Which I consider as a big failure from Mel's part. His other movies, even though exaggerated still, were not as bad as this one (again, this is my opinion and I welcome comments proving the opposite as I haven't probably seen all movies in which Mel played or directed or produced but I saw at least a good few)

    So this is my idea of the context.

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  29. My kids... by trentfoley · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have two boys, 9 and 6, that stumbled across my old Monty Python videotapes. I played "Holy Grail" for them and they were in stitches. I played "Life of Brian", and not suprisingly, the more sophisticated content was so over their heads that they didn't enjoy it. I played "Meaning of Life" and they were just plain confused, but laughing.

    Maybe after a few more years of Catholic school, my sons will appreciate the brilliance of "Life of Brian". For now, "Holy Grail" is the hit.

    The last time we watched it, my 9 year old son answered the question, "What is the capital of Assyria?". "Nineva, you dolt!" he exclaimed. He smiled and smugly looked up to me and said, "I googled it. I don't want to be blasted off of some bridge." That's my boy.

  30. Re:Re Re Re released by SamSpectre · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not sure if WANT to see Graham Chapman's full monty in larger than life size...

  31. Re:What about the Norwegians? by fluoronaut · · Score: 4, Informative
    According to this page (scroll about two thirds of the way down):
    This film was initially banned in Norway for blasphemy. It wasn't released there until 1980. Subsequently, it has been marketed in Sweden as "The film that is so funny that it was banned in Norway!"
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  32. Re:What have the Americans done for us ? by perly-king-69 · · Score: 4, Informative
    Electricity - Gray in the early 1700s?

    Telephone - Either Bell (British) or Meuci (Italian)

    Automobile - Karl Benz (German)

    High rise building - Quite tall, no?

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  33. Re:Good idea !!! by Inuchance · · Score: 3, Funny

    Jesus had a father who was a god and a mother who was mortal, just like Hercules did. I think that Jesus should be considered a half-god like Hercules was. Hercules could probably beat Jesus in a fight- I mean, you couldn't kill Hercules just by nailing him to a wooden cross.

    Maybe, but then God would kick Zeus's ass.

  34. Re:Mel explicitly stated that he added Marianism.. by perly-king-69 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Jesus is better documented than any of the Caesars

    You have contemporary (and I mean contemporary, not 50, 100 years post) documentation of Jesus' life? Something that compares to Augustus' Res Gestae, Julius Caesars' Gallic Wars, Marcus Aurelius' Meditations, Trajan's letters to Pliny...I could go on...? Do please tell!

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  35. Wasn't the LOB really about radical politics? by 1iar_parad0x · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've always thought "The Life Of Brian" was a parody of the radical 60's political movement. Brian joined the Jewish underground because he's attracted to a girl, not because he really cares about politics. They plot meaningless proganda attacks against the Romans, and argue with splinter factions. I tought the aquaduct and "why can't men have babies" scenes where priceless.

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    1. Re:Wasn't the LOB really about radical politics? by nat5an · · Score: 4, Interesting
      It's also an awesome parody of the likely inconsequential origin of strongly held religious beliefs. Like when Brian is running away from his "disciples" and he loses his sandal, and the crowd immediately begins arguing over whether it means they need to take off their sandal to be like him, or whether it means to ignore the things of the body and concentrate on the face and head, etc. Then they immediately split into two sects, one which follows the "Holy Gourd of Jerusalem" and the other which follows the sandal.

      Oh, it's just brilliant. :-)

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  36. Re-released ad infinitum by cryptochrome · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Re-releasing makes perfect sense if you can make money off of it. If a movie came out a generation ago (which Life of Brian did) then that's a whole generation in the original target demographic that didn't see it in the theaters, most of whom never saw it at all.

    Frankly I wish they'd re-release more good old movies. It would cut down on the embarassingly crappy remakes, and hopefully cut back on the number of crappy movies made yearly as well since they'd have some stiff competition. Film festivals just don't have the critical mass and eyeball coverage that a wide re-release does.

    Personally I rarely watch anything more than once, and if I do it's generally many many years apart. So buying DVDs/videos doesn't make any sense to me in the first place. I rent or see it in the theaters.

    As for The Passion, Mel Gibson has cleverly made a film that people go to as an act of faith. He'll be making money hand over fist on this film for years if not decades to come. People don't even have to enjoy it, they just have to feel like seeing it makes them pious. Because if you haven't seen The Passion you're not a good Christian.

    So here's the real question - what will be re-released next year around easter as counterprogramming to the re-release of The Passion of The Christ? And the next? And will this lead to more companies re-releasing old films in theaters?

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  37. Re:Good idea !!! by corbettw · · Score: 3, Funny

    Hercules could probably beat Jesus in a fight

    Naa, Jesus would just walk out onto a lake and taunt Hercules until he had a heart attack. Or maybe turn all the water in Hercules' blood into wine, making him die from alcohol poisoning (though he was a Greek, so probably had a pretty high tolerance for wine).

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  38. Free (as in beer) slogan suggestion.. by McNally · · Score: 3, Funny
    Free slogan suggestion for the distributors:
    "If you see only one crucifixion movie this year.."
  39. Re:Good idea !!! by shaneb11716 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Now to add to what I said, Jesus was the son of God, granted.

    Well, that wasn't a given until Constantine and the Council of Nicaea said it was so around 325AD!!!

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  40. Now, a spoof of Islam by Animats · · Score: 4, Interesting
    We need a good spoof of Islam, to be beamed at the Islamic world. They need to lighten up.

    Mohammed's life makes a great comedy. He married an older women for money. He became a used camel dealer. He had a favorite slave girl, Zaid. Then he went into religion around age 40. For years, he was considered a nutcase. Somehow, he and his followers managed to take over Medina, after which he started invading and conquering neighboring countries.

    Visualize the Python version of that. It would drive the Islamic world nuts. But it would be worth it. Make sure it gets on satellite TV and file-sharing networks, so Arab kids see it. In most of the Islamic world, kids are forced to OD on religion, because the religious types run the schools. It's like the Dark Ages in Europe.

    The last major film about Islam, Mohammed, Messenger of God, was way too respectful. It doesn't even show the face of Mohammed (played by Anthony Quinn), to respect Islamic tradition. The Saudis use it as a training film. It was pulled from US theaters in 1976 after threats from people we'd today call terrorists. Today, the US wouldn't back down.

  41. Re:Good idea !!! by The+Infamous+Grimace · · Score: 4, Informative

    Please try to bear in mind that the Bible is a translation from a dead language of mans interpretation of the word of God.

    Don't do what the Bible says. Don't necessarily believe what it claims Jesus said. Rather, try to live your life as the man lived his; with understanding and compassion for others (he spent a lot of time with prostitutes, thieves, lepers, etc), with respect for those of different faiths than his (remember, he was a Jew) and above all the knowledge that you don't have the right or authority to judge anyone, for only the Lord knows what's in your heart.

    (tig)

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  42. Apologies to the Daily Show... by GPLDAN · · Score: 4, Funny

    Jon Stewart's joke from the Daily Show...

    "So, this week's box office reciepts show that 'Dawn of the Dead' has unseated 'Passion of the Christ' as the #1 movie in America. Lesson? One person rising from the dead...good. Lots of people rising from the dead...better."

  43. Get some of the facts straight first... by denzo · · Score: 4, Informative
    then you can make a parody. ;)

    1) Zaid was his adopted son (and one of his most devoted followers), not a slave girl.

    2) They did not take over Medina, but were invited to move there to escape the persecution of the Kuraish aristocrats who were in control of Mecca. The two major Jewish tribes of Medina were particularly interested in Mohammed (PBUH) to help mediate their disagreements. Sure, he kicked a bunch of them out of Medina after they conspired against him, but that's a different story.

    3) Anthony Quinn played the role of Hamzah "Lion of the Desert", Mohammed's uncle who converted to Islam. BTW, it not only doesn't portray Mohammed on the screen, but other important figures such as his best friend Abu Bakr, and his cousin Ali (to be the first and second Caliphs of Islam, respectively, after Mohammad's death). This belief also extends to all of the other Prophets, including Jesus and Moses. I don't believe this effect detracts at all from the film, on the contrary, I believe the film actually works better this way.

    4) The movie's title is actually "The Message". It's not only on the cover of the video in English, but also the Arabic "Ar-risallah" written on a flag in the artwork. Sidepoint: this movie was filmed both in English and Arabic separately, with different actors for each language (both with an impressive cast billing for their respective audience). I wish they released both versions on the DVD instead of just English.

    5) As far as I know, "The Message" was banned in various Arab countries, especially Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. I don't know if this still is the case. Despite its carefulness in respecting beliefs of the most conservative Muslims, it apparantly wasn't enough.

  44. What does this have to do with anything? by mydoghasworms · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I am rather disappointed by the reaction to this post. I understand that most of Slashdot readers are movie buffs besides being geeks and open source followers, and Monty Python has a strong following among them. However, considering the reaction this post has drawn, much of it disrespectful to the Christian faith, I wonder: What has this got to do with open source and the open source community (remember - OSDN)? That is the main reason I read Slashdot, and is what I understand to be the main purpose for Slashdot. I understand Micheal posted this with informative intent, but I think there are more appropriate websites for these kind of announcements.

  45. Re:"Alternative to hype"...? by JonKatzIsAnIdiot · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why does this person feel like The Passion needs some kind of antidote? Why should this movie need "counter-programming"? What's wrong with having a millions of people very interested in a film which, like it or not, has serious artistic merit? Even if it didn't have artistic merit, why should a popular movie need an alternative?

    Quite obviously, despite protestations to the contrary of aethiests, agnostics and liberals, thier desires to push thier own beliefs on the world are just as strong as the Christians they're constantly accusing.

  46. Except that sight can be proven by ttfkam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sighted person: Okay, stand right where you are.
    Blind skeptic: Why?
    SP: I'm going to take ten paces away from you.
    BS: Okay.
    SP: Now hold up one of your hands. Aha! You just raised your left hand.
    BS: What about now?
    SP: It's still your left hand.
    BS: How did you know that?
    SP: I can see.

    Now have the sighted person get four items, each a different color, and hand them out. The items should have the same size, shape and texture. Have the sighted person identify each item to the person holding it. Have the sighted person occupied by a fifth volunteer so that the activites of the first four are hidden from sight. The first four will now trade with each other, whispering the color the sighted person attributed to the item he/she held. The sighted person is brought back into view and questioned about the items again. Repeat with a new group of blind volunteers. Assuming the blind are honest, this would provide proof. It's called "The Scientific Method."

    On the other hand, the proofs I hear from theists include

    1. I know God exists because I can feel his presence
    2. Something amazingly good happened to me when it should have been bad
    3. If God doesn't exist, how do you explain this world we live in?
    4. 95% of the people in the world believe in a supreme being. What makes you right and everyone else wrong?
    5. I see God's work everywhere
    6. The Bible/Koran/Torah

    Responses:

    1. Ever been camping and notice some insect or spider crawling on your leg? Or rather, you thought there was something crawling on your leg but when you looked and swatted, nothing was there. Our senses are fallible. The only way to know for sure would be to see the bug -- something observable that others can observe as well.
    2. Yes, the NFL wide receiver argument. "I want to thank God for giving me the ability to make that touchdown..." Yet we never hear, "We were kicking the other team's ass when Jesus suddenly decided to make me fumble three times." Good people win the lottery. Bad people win the lottery. Good people survive car accidents. Bad people survive car accidents. What makes you, the God-fearing Christian, more special than the other God-fearing Christian who is now hamburger in their smashed up Toyota Celica?
    3. If the Giant Burnt Umber Crayon didn't throw a rave one hundred years ago in Grand Central Station, how do you explain the world? Same argument, different subject. It begs the question. Your conclusion is the same as one of your premises.
    4. Fallacy of argumentum ad populum. "Nature abhors a vacuum." At one time, it was accepted by most. Popular agreement is not the same as proof. All things considered, it was a good theory at the time. It is still wrong.
    5. I see the same world as you, but with no god in it. Once again, begging the question. God exists. The world is a product of God. The world exists. Therefore God exists. Take away the first premise and the argument falls apart.
    6. Giant Burnt Umber Crayon

    I know that I will hear noise about "strawman." Fair enough. Provide proof and we'll be done with it. If you can't provide proof, God is as likely to exist as the Giant Burnt Umber Crayon.

    You are free to believe what you will. But unless you can demonstrate it to others, don't be indignant when others point and laugh at you when you proclaim it as truth. Don't want pointing and laughter, keep it to yourself or prove it.

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  47. Re:Jesus had to die by Kris+Thalamus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Jesus did not take his own life. He GAVE his life up while we (all of us) crucified Him. There is a difference.

    Sure, he didn't pull the trigger or nail himself to a cross. On that same merit I can jump in front of a moving bus and blame the driver for not stopping. The point is that he intentionally let himself die, which qualifies him as suicidal in many people's eyes.

  48. I love The life of Brian, but... by SnakeNuts · · Score: 3, Funny

    They should re-release Jesus Christ Superstar. And as I'm listening to the soundtrack right now, I can say that is the only reason for me: the sheer beauty of the production. I get chills every time I hear or see the movie. I'm not a believer myself (although I was raised a catholic) but this movie/musical just connects with me on all levels.

    I'll go back to sobbing to the soundtrack now...

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