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Dolemite_the_Wiz writes "The BBC reports that Monty Python's 'Life of Brian' will be re-released, with the remaining Python troupe's full support, in US theaters next month. The Film's Distributor, Rainbow Film Company are marketing the film as an alternative to all the hype that Mel Gibson's film 'The Passion of the Christ' has generated. Trailers for the Film will begin running in theaters on Good Friday. Wait until Biggus Dickus hears about this!"

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  1. Good idea !!! by chmouel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think this is a great thing to take that as humoristic rather than serious.

    1. Re:Good idea !!! by Kris+Thalamus · · Score: 5, Funny

      Jesus had a father who was a god and a mother who was mortal, just like Hercules did. I think that Jesus should be considered a half-god like Hercules was. Hercules could probably beat Jesus in a fight- I mean, you couldn't kill Hercules just by nailing him to a wooden cross.

    2. Re:Good idea !!! by DRUNK_BEAR · · Score: 3, Insightful
      yes... talking about context, having seen the movie helps getting and idea of the context.

      Now to add to what I said, Jesus was the son of God, granted. But the son of God was given to us in the human form. And what I said is that it seems humanly impossible (Health science people correct me if I'm wrong) to survive the first few steps of what Mel depicted as the passion of Christ, thus removing the human portion of Jesus and leaving only the Son of God part. Which I consider as a big failure from Mel's part. His other movies, even though exaggerated still, were not as bad as this one (again, this is my opinion and I welcome comments proving the opposite as I haven't probably seen all movies in which Mel played or directed or produced but I saw at least a good few)

      So this is my idea of the context.

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    3. Re:Good idea !!! by Golias · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Those helped depicting Jesus as an humain being (which He was, even if He was the son of God) but in my opinion, the movie was a bit too much centered on the brutal part and I found that little importance were given to Jesus' actions.

      As important and interesting as the Sermon on the Mount might be to a philosphy student, and as signifigant as the Clensing of the Temple might be to a historian... to a Christian, the Passion & Resurrection was the single most important action of Jesus. Christianity is defined by this sacrifice. His teachings were hardly novel... most of the time he was just quoting scripture, or telling parables to reinforce Judaic ethics. The concept of salvation by Grace (bought be Christ's sacrifice) is pretty much the only thing at all unique about Christianity.

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    4. Re:Good idea !!! by Inuchance · · Score: 3, Funny

      Jesus had a father who was a god and a mother who was mortal, just like Hercules did. I think that Jesus should be considered a half-god like Hercules was. Hercules could probably beat Jesus in a fight- I mean, you couldn't kill Hercules just by nailing him to a wooden cross.

      Maybe, but then God would kick Zeus's ass.

    5. Re:Good idea !!! by Kris+Thalamus · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Do you think that Jesus had magical powers (Hint: the church considers magic a black art)

      Yes, the church also condemns smiting, but YHWH was purported to have done a fair share of smiting back in the day.

      I understood that Jesus' disciples claimed that he could turn water into wine, walk on water, and resurrect Lazarus. If those aren't magical powers, then you and I have a different definition of magic.
    6. Re:Good idea !!! by palfreman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Does it occure to you that Mel Gibson might have been just as innaccurate in Bravehart and The Patriot, as he was in The Passion of Christ? Its just he's found a different group of people to be innaccurate about this time. For one thing, he has his soldiers speaking Latin, when that part of the Roman Empire was Greek speaking. 5 minutes reading the introduction to Mark's Gospel Pocket Edition (let alone checking his facts with a real historian) would have told him that.

    7. Re:Good idea !!! by corbettw · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hercules could probably beat Jesus in a fight

      Naa, Jesus would just walk out onto a lake and taunt Hercules until he had a heart attack. Or maybe turn all the water in Hercules' blood into wine, making him die from alcohol poisoning (though he was a Greek, so probably had a pretty high tolerance for wine).

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    8. Re:Good idea !!! by Archie+Steel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, he did vanish from Palestine for quite a few years (some say over a decade), then came back no longer a zealot (in the classical sense of the word) but rather a humanist philosopher. It seems that he had also learned healing techniques and remedies.

      Since he was most certainly fleeing the romans, it would have made sense for him to go East, not West. He could easily followed the Silk road to India, and have been exposed to Buddhism while there (in addition to learning magic tricks and medical secrets).

      Of course, all of this is just a bunch of supposition, but we don't have much more to go on when studying the "historical" Jesus.

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    9. Re:Good idea !!! by pianophile · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "scholars disagree"? Are there any scholars anywhere who believe any of Jesus' teaching came from Buddhism?

      There are some interesting parallels in some of the writings, and Buddha did appear first chronologically, and his missionaries did move west as far as Alexandria, so...

      There is proof, of course, but it makes for some interesting food for thought.

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    10. Re:Good idea !!! by shaneb11716 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Now to add to what I said, Jesus was the son of God, granted.

      Well, that wasn't a given until Constantine and the Council of Nicaea said it was so around 325AD!!!

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    11. Re:Good idea !!! by squidfood · · Score: 2, Funny

      Personally I'd go with Rabbi

    12. Re:Good idea !!! by The+Infamous+Grimace · · Score: 4, Informative

      Please try to bear in mind that the Bible is a translation from a dead language of mans interpretation of the word of God.

      Don't do what the Bible says. Don't necessarily believe what it claims Jesus said. Rather, try to live your life as the man lived his; with understanding and compassion for others (he spent a lot of time with prostitutes, thieves, lepers, etc), with respect for those of different faiths than his (remember, he was a Jew) and above all the knowledge that you don't have the right or authority to judge anyone, for only the Lord knows what's in your heart.

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    13. Re:Good idea !!! by corbettw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So much about dying on the cross ...

      Umm, you do realize He rose again on the third day, right? And there's nothing saying He didn't wander around the world, teaching others His lessons, after He had done so. He did say, afterall, He had "other sheep" that He would tend to. The challenge is, are the teachings that were passed down and supposedly attributed to Him contracdictory with other things He said in the Gospels? Most of the time, they are, which means it was probably someone else saying them and trying to cash in on His fame.

      As for God following the rules of logic, I believe St. Paul answered this when he wrote that God's wisdom confounds the wise (that is, His reasoning is beyond our own, He does things for his own reasons and we may not understand them). Besides, there's more to being omnipotent than just doing whatever you want, when you want. God might have the ability to destroy the universe, but doing so would run counter to His character, for example.

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    14. Re:Good idea !!! by ChuyMatt · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sorry, but, as reported in the song, Westly Willis kicked his ass. Rather badly too. but what _can_ you do against a 7 foot, 300 lb. schizophrenic man?

    15. Re:Good idea !!! by Performer+Guy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It wasn't necessarily exaggerated based on what is written in the Bible and what is historically known and documented about Roman practices. All of the gospels mention that Jesus was scourged then crucified. This was actually a common practice and scourging was brutal and has been documented as often leaving the flesh hanging in shreds. Whether this is exactly what happened to Jesus we don't know but it's a reasonable interpretation. Scourging could be performed using a range of implements and under Roman law would be limited to 40 blows, probably 39 incase they miscounted. So although it has never been emphasized in any other movies it is there in the bible and that is pretty much the source of the story the movie is telling, most of the gospels have no detail on the execution except John and he doesn't give any detail about the scourging. So you're left to interpret the events based on what is known historically about the practice.

  2. what have the romans ever done for us?? by xao+gypsie · · Score: 5, Funny

    .....They brought us the aqueducts....

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    1. Re:what have the romans ever done for us?? by REBloomfield · · Score: 4, Funny

      and the wine....

    2. Re:what have the romans ever done for us?? by banzai51 · · Score: 4, Funny

      ..and the roads. Those are pretty useful.

    3. Re:what have the romans ever done for us?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...exept for the aqueducts, wine, and roads, what have the romans ever done for us?

    4. Re:what have the romans ever done for us?? by EnderWiggnz · · Score: 4, Funny

      you know wha i love about pseudo-religious threads on slashdot?

      the idiots out themselves.

      sigh... yep - that historical character Noah was the first to make wine - whatever.

      its not like the entire flood story was a rip of the Gilgamesh legend.

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    5. Re:what have the romans ever done for us?? by Slurms · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is not quite true.

      See Snopes:
      http://www.snopes.com/history/american/gauge.htm

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    6. Re:what have the romans ever done for us?? by Punk+Walrus · · Score: 4, Funny

      Under what, look-and-feel? No, wait, that's altar boys. Never mind.

    7. Re:what have the romans ever done for us?? by zerocool^ · · Score: 4, Funny

      Brought peace?

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    8. Re:what have the romans ever done for us?? by tilmanb · · Score: 3, Funny

      Shut up!

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    9. Re:what have the romans ever done for us?? by falzer · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sure, sure, but what have they done recently?

    10. Re:what have the romans ever done for us?? by superyooser · · Score: 2, Informative
      its not like the entire flood story was a rip of the Gilgamesh legend.

      The Gilgamesh Epic and the Bible

      The Flood of Noah and the Flood of Gilgamesh

    11. Re:what have the romans ever done for us?? by IceAgeComing · · Score: 3, Funny


      I completely agree! All we ever do is talk, talk, talk. It's about time we get up and actually DO something!

    12. Re:what have the romans ever done for us?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      God I love it when a joke comes together :D

    13. Re:what have the romans ever done for us?? by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It does prove that there was a record of winemaking before the Romans were in Israel. And he didn't say Noah was the first to 'make wine', he said 'plant a vinyard'. Probably there's an earlier record of vinyard planting somewhere, but the point still serves. No matter how skeptical, you have to acknowledge that a people don't record acts of winemaking before they can do it themselves.

      Thus, the Romans did not bring winemaking to the Jewish people. Their records of such acts radically predate the Roman invasion.

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  3. A bomb? What are you giving him a bomb for? by deman1985 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I never got the chance to see the movies on the big screen, so it will certainly be an interesting experience to have it in theaters again. I can only imagine the kind of crowds it will draw, though :)

    1. Re:A bomb? What are you giving him a bomb for? by SRain315 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      For those who can't wait, there's an interview with Eric Idle [RealPlayer Audio] from yesterday's "Which Way, L.A.?" program on KCRW. Apparently, the Pythons want to cash in on the furor over "Passion of the Christ." In the interview, Eric claims he's a "lapsed anti-Catholic" and an "Alzhimer's agnostic" - great stuff!

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    2. Re:A bomb? What are you giving him a bomb for? by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 2, Funny


      Who needs to SEE the movie? Just read the Slashot comments here, we'll eventually recite the entire script...

  4. I'm Not the Massiah, I'm Not the Massiah! by Yousef · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Only the Real Massiah would deny his divinity!"

    Gotta Love it!

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    1. Re:I'm Not the Massiah, I'm Not the Massiah! by ZaMoose · · Score: 2, Funny

      Perhaps he was attempting to use an English equivalent to the Hebrew word, which is pronounced sort of like "massheeoch".

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  5. Biggus Dickus... by SwansonMarpalum · · Score: 3, Informative

    ... can't hear about it because he's dead, you insensitive clod!

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  6. When it was originally released... by rokzy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    there was a heated debate on TV between Palin and some religious guy.

    Have religious people took the stick out their ass, or will there be more criticism?

    1. Re:When it was originally released... by REBloomfield · · Score: 4, Informative
      "yes, i appreciate that you approached this with an open mind"

      best. quote. ever.

    2. Re:When it was originally released... by jwthompson2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There will be lots of criticism from the likes of Pat Robertson and Falwell and the sort, but I, even as a southern baptist, appreciate this movie, considering it doesn't mock Christ as much as some might think...

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    3. Re:When it was originally released... by Mateito · · Score: 5, Interesting

      > considering it doesn't mock Christ as much as
      > some might think...

      With the exception of labelling Christ a "Bloody do-gooder", there is nothing againt him at all. He is shown first in the manger, then secondly giving the sermon on the mount.

      Who is does mock, however, are those factions within the church (and politics in general) who spend all their time bickering about inconsequencial differences rather than presenting a common front based on the 95% of their beliefs that co-incide.

      That's why some churches are dead against it.

      Still.. my favourite scene is the "romans go home" conjugation.

    4. Re:When it was originally released... by rokzy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      atheism is not a religion. there are many types of atheism, but basically it's about not *believing* in God, NOT believing there isn't a God. there is a difference.

      agnosticism is a cop-out, a type of atheism for cowards. either you believe, or you don't, and if you don't believe you're a type of atheist.

    5. Re:When it was originally released... by vidarh · · Score: 2, Informative

      Uhm. It wouldn't have been hard to find someone to debate heatedly with. In Norway, Life of Brian was initially banned from cinemas under a rarely used paragraphy in Norwegian law banning blasphemy. I believe it was the last time the paragraph (which still stands, btw.) has been used.

    6. Re:When it was originally released... by PGillingwater · · Score: 5, Informative

      There were two "religious guys" -- the Anglican Bishop and Southwark and a well-known religious commentator, Malcolm Muggeridge.

      Note that the movie was originally funded in part by George Harrison -- good friend of Eric Idle, who stepped in when the original backers, EMI, pulled out.

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    7. Re:When it was originally released... by stevelinton · · Score: 3, Interesting
      there was a heated debate on TV between Palin and some religious guy.


      Followed by a superb "Not the Nine O'Clock News" satirical sketch: a heated debate between a devoted follower of the Church of Python and a Bishop about "The General Synod's Life of Christ" -- an obvious parody of the life of our comic messiah John Cleese -- even the initials are the same!

      Does anyone have a transcript of this sketch?
    8. Re:When it was originally released... by jwthompson2 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I think you and the other people who echo your sentiments are dead on to what 'Life of Brian' is really mocking. I would disagree on one issue:

      ... rather than presenting a common front based on the 95% of their beliefs that co-incide.


      As a southern baptist, and I include that mostly as a disclaimer, I would say there is a vast bit more difference than you imply. The issue of whether homosexuals, women and divorcees should be allowed and to what extent and in what roles they should be allowed to serve in ministry is a big deal, because the Bible makes it an issue. Also, the inerrancy of scripture and the greater doctrine of 'sola scriptura' is a big deal. Many denominations however are wavering on these issues and many others. I would agree though that some issues shouldn't divide us as much as they do, Armenianism vs. Calvinism produces flamewars beyond the comprehension of /.ers as does the debates over eschatology and church polity issues. I would agree with you that we are probably more divided as a faith than necessary, but some issues are worth fighting for and as a Christian should be fought for, otherwise we risk losing something very important, the truth in favor of opinions and feelings.

      I inserted a real religious post, may the flamewar begin and my karma plummit...
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    9. Re:When it was originally released... by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 2, Funny

      the stick in the ass is a sacrament of all Christian faiths. When your head's in the water they shove it in.

    10. Re:When it was originally released... by jbert · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, but the NNTON album (yes, "long playing vinyl, 33rpm) is on the shelf in another town, so I should go and grab it sometime

      Comedy gold, pure comedy gold.

      Do the yanks get any "Not the Nine o'clock News"? Is it too dated anyway?

      "Wild? I was livid!"

      Doesn't get any better than that...

    11. Re:When it was originally released... by stevelinton · · Score: 2, Informative

      There's a "Best of Not the Nine O'Clock News" video released.

    12. Re:When it was originally released... by sugar+and+acid · · Score: 3, Informative

      >atheism is not a religion. there are many types of atheism, >but basically it's about not *believing* in God, NOT >believing there isn't a God. there is a difference.

      Nope, Atheist are more anti-god, stating firmly that god doesn't exist. Agnostics take the view that there is no good evidence that god exists, then again there is evidence that he doesn't but we tend to lean towards no god, this is your erroneous description of an atheist. So Agnostics take the view that there is no compelling reason to get on either side of this debate, just don't bug me about it unless you can prove without a doubt your position. To put my position another way, agnostics don't want to spend the time and energy on a stupid fight over a stupid point, believe what you want and stay out of my face and we can all be happy. This still includes opposing religion in school and government and other inappropriate venues. Atheist are more annoyed by the existence of religion at all and actively fight against it.

      An observation I have made is atheist tend to be from religious backgrounds, and often the only way to move away from that is a complete, and nearly violent rejection of religion. Fighting the strong religious influence with a similarly strong rejection of god at some point in their life.

    13. Re:When it was originally released... by dangermouse · · Score: 2, Funny
      ***Spoiler***

      I think that after a couple thousand years you can stop worrying about spoilers.

    14. Re:When it was originally released... by iworm · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hooray for Richard Dawkins:

      "It is often said, mainly by the "no-contests", that although there is no positive evidence for the existence of God, nor is there evidence against his existence. So it is best to keep an open mind and be agnostic. At first sight that seems an unassailable position, at least in the weak sense of Pascal's wager. But on second thoughts it seems a cop-out, because the same could be said of Father Christmas and tooth fairies. There may be fairies at the bottom of the garden. There is no evidence for it, but you can't prove that there aren't any, so shouldn't we be agnostic with respect to fairies?"

    15. Re:When it was originally released... by R.Caley · · Score: 3, Interesting
      With the exception of labelling Christ a "Bloody do-gooder", there is nothing againt him at all.

      It amazed me at the time that there were so many supposed christians campagning against the most christian film I had ever seen. LoB manages to be very humane and also very positive towards christianity, not an easy combination to pull off.

      The big biblical epics took more liberties with christianity than LoB did (compressing events and so on). Things I have read about Gibson's film indicates he does too.

      I presume we are in for a good summer of weirdoes and loonies complaining about LoB and praising Gibson. I do home sometime I see one of these people pinned down and asked to name where exactly the pythons clash with scripture.

      Just because the gospels don't mention the space battle, that doesn't mean it didn't happen!

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    16. Re:When it was originally released... by sisco · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If I remember correctly, (it's been a while since I've seen the movie) the "christ-figure" was not actually a religious leader, but was assumed to be a "christ" by to general populace.

      I don't think this is really heretical, but rather an illustation of how easily people will believe anything religious teachers will tell them, and even some things they don't tell them!

      I went to a baptist school...

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    17. Re:When it was originally released... by glpierce · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sorry, but as someone who has studied this quite a bit, I can say with confidence that you are completely incorrect and are basing your statements on popular conception rather than facts.

      Atheism is the lack of belief in a god. While many atheists are "anti-god" that does not alter the definition of the word. A baby is an atheist because it cannot conceive the existence of god, and therefore cannot believe in it.

      Agnostics believe in a higher power, but not the Christian God. The I-don't-want-to-think-about-it description is what is often called agnosticism, but it most certainly is not (American dictionaries tend to follow popular, rather than historical definitions). Check the roots of the word.

      Atheists only tend to be from religious backgrounds because most people are from religious backgrounds. 85-90% of the US is theist, and atheists come from all parts of the population, so the numbers are skewed. Violent rejection of religion is the often the media portrayal, and you notice it because it is visible; people who quitely slip away from faith don't give much indication for you to pick up on.

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    18. Re:When it was originally released... by DunbarTheInept · · Score: 2, Insightful


      Nope, Atheist are more anti-god, stating firmly that god doesn't exist.

      Not according to atheists themselves. There is no need to state firmly that god doesn't exist, since nonexistance of a thing is the default hypothesis for ANY proposed thing. (Becuase it's the only reasonably falsifiable hypothesis. If a thing exists, evidence can be found in theory (if not then that is functionally equivilent to not existing). If a thing doesn't exist, evidence can't demonstrate it - things that don't exist don't leave behind evidence. So the hypothesis that god is existant is not falsifiable, but the hypothesis that god doesn't exist *is* falsifiable.

      So, in other words, atheism isn't a belief becuase the burden of proof is 100% on the one who believes in god. Atheism is merely the default stance.

      And your post conflates religion with belief in god. They are not the same thing. Buddhism is a religion, but doesn't require belief in god. And someone who believes in god, but doesn't follow any one of the standard organized groups that are dedicated to that purpose is theistic, but not religious.

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    19. Re:When it was originally released... by Galvatron · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There's actually a triumvirate of "rational" religious beliefs: atheism, agnosticism, and deism. All three say that, by looking at the world in an impartial manner, it is clear that there (is not/may be/is) some divine figure. Deism isn't very popular anymore, but many of the founding fathers of the US were Deist (there's a reason that they "hold these truths to be self evident").

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    20. Re:When it was originally released... by Lost+Race · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Where do you get these ideas? From your priest?

      I'm an atheist because I see no direct evidence of any gods. IMO, there is no good reason to believe that any particular accounts of any god are true, and lots of good reasons to believe those accounts are fictitious.

      I don't believe in any god because I have no reason to believe in any god. I can't prove that no god exists, the entire concept just seems silly. I don't argue about gods, I don't violently reject religion, and I'm not from a religious background. By your criteria I'm an agnostic.

      My wife is agnostic. She's pretty sure there is a god of some kind but she doesn't know much about it. No faith, no religion, just some direct brief contact with a godlike entity that was enough to convince her it exists in some form.

      My labels, "atheist" and "agnostic", are consistent with how people label themselves. Yours are not.

    21. Re:When it was originally released... by Nplugd · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ...and to quote the imdb:
      This film was initially banned in Norway for blasphemy. It wasn't released there until 1980. Subsequently, it has been marketed in Sweden as "The film that is so funny that it was banned in Norway!"

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  7. Thoughts... by jwthompson2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Although I seriously doubt it will be as widely popular; I am am excited about seeing this on the big screen. Great movie, even if it could be considered sacrilege...

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    1. Re:Thoughts... by ZaMoose · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, if you've seen the interview/tribute that the remaining 5 Python's gave at the Aspen Comedy Festival in 1998, you'd have heard the debate they had as to whether it was sacrilegious or "merely" heretical.

      They decided it was most definitely heretical, but not sacrilegious. I'd have to agree.

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  8. Re:Re Re Re released by Anita+Coney · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Have you ever seen a movie in a theater?! I have, it's a heck of a lot better than watching it at home. Thus, THAT'S the advantage of re-releasing a movie to the theater. We get a chance, or a second chance, to see a great movie on a large screen.

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  9. Cue 400 posts of everyone's favourite bits... by JosKarith · · Score: 5, Funny

    My personal favourite - Brian: "You are all individuals" Crowd: "We are all individuals my lord" Lone voice from the back: "No I'm not!"

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  10. Can't wait, seriously can't wait. by The+I+Shing · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Every scene in that movie is hilarious, from the shopkeeper who refuses to sell a fake beard without haggling first, to the Roman guard who insists that grafitti in the Latin language be grammatically correct.

    I'm going to round up everyone I know who's never seen it and drag them to the cinema.

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    1. Re:Can't wait, seriously can't wait. by REBloomfield · · Score: 5, Funny

      CENTURION:
      What's this, then? 'Romanes Eunt Domus'? 'People called Romanes they go the house'?
      BRIAN:
      It-- it says, 'Romans, go home'.
      CENTURION:
      No, it doesn't. What's Latin for 'Roman'? Come on!
      BRIAN: Aah!
      CENTURION: Come on!
      BRIAN: 'R-- Romanus'?
      CENTURION: Goes like...?
      BRIAN: 'Annus'?
      CENTURION: Vocative plural of 'annus' is...?
      BRIAN: Eh. 'Anni'?
      CENTURION: 'Romani'. 'Eunt'? What is 'eunt'?
      BRIAN: 'Go'. Let--
      CENTURION: Conjugate the verb 'to go'.
      BRIAN: Uh. 'Ire'. Uh, 'eo'. 'Is'. 'It'. 'Imus'. 'Itis'. 'Eunt'.
      CENTURION: So 'eunt' is...?
      BRIAN: Ah, huh, third person plural, uh, present indicative. Uh, 'they go'.
      CENTURION: But 'Romans, go home' is an order, so you must use the...?
      BRIAN: The... imperative!
      CENTURION:
      Which is...?
      BRIAN:
      Umm! Oh. Oh. Um, 'i'. 'I'!
      CENTURION:
      How many Romans?
      BRIAN:
      Ah! 'I'-- Plural. Plural. 'Ite'. 'Ite'.
      CENTURION:
      'Ite'.
      BRIAN:
      Ah. Eh.
      CENTURION:
      'Domus'?
      BRIAN:
      Eh.
      CENTURION:
      Nominative?
      BRIAN:
      Oh.
      CENTURION:
      'Go home'? This is motion towards. Isn't it, boy?
      BRIAN:
      Ah. Ah, dative, sir! Ahh! No, not dative! Not the dative, sir! No! Ah! Oh, the... accusative! Accusative! Ah! 'Domum', sir! 'Ad domum'! Ah! Oooh! Ah!
      CENTURION:
      Except that 'domus' takes the...?
      BRIAN:
      The locative, sir!
      CENTURION:
      Which is...?!
      BRIAN:
      'Domum'.
      CENTURION:
      'Domum'.
      BRIAN:
      Aaah! Ah.
      CENTURION:
      'Um'. Understand?
      BRIAN:
      Yes, sir.
      CENTURION:
      Now, write it out a hundred times.
      BRIAN:
      Yes, sir. Thank you, sir. Hail Caesar, sir.
      CENTURION:
      Hail Caesar. If it's not done by sunrise, I'll cut your balls off.

      Your comment violated the "postercomment" compression filter. Try less whitespace and/or less repetition. Comment aborted.
      stupid lamesness filter.grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    2. Re:Can't wait, seriously can't wait. by R2.0 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I first saw this movie in high school when I was taking latin, taught by a nun.

      I was the only one curled up in a tight little ball suffocating from my own laughter at the thought of Sister Perpetua threatening to cut my balls off if I missed a pop quiz,

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  11. Can...not ....resist.... by kindbud · · Score: 4, Funny

    We-wewease Bwian!!

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  12. Re:Re Re Re released by sisco · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There are plenty of products on the market that prove that consumers do not act logically. Why else would people pay hundreds of dollars for a stuffed animal (a.k.a. beanie baby)???

    Or why do people trade most of their tax return in order to get credit to lease a car, that they will wind up paying wayyy more than what it is worth.

    Heck, I don't even make logical economical decisions all the time. Besides which, this offers the opportunity to go out and see it in the theatre... a potential good time with all your friends.

    anyway, point being... consumers aren't always logical.

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  13. one of the best lines ever written.... by corporatewhore · · Score: 5, Funny

    is when John Cleese asks "How shall we f*ck off, Oh Lord ?"
    Serioulsy, this one line and its context says more about religion turning into dogma than anything else I can think of...

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  14. Re:W00T by mirko · · Score: 5, Funny

    'Trolles Eunt Domus' ?
    Somebody called the trolls they go the house ?
    What's that supposed to mean ?
    it means "Firstus postus".
    -no it doesn't ! it'd be "trolli ite domum"
    Now, write it out a hundred times. If it's not done by sunrise, I'll cut your balls off.

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  15. Monty Python by eXtro · · Score: 5, Insightful

    have always been the masters of irreverence. The silly and sometimes seemingly lame sketches have always just been a veneer over them thumbing their noses at God, Queen and Country, bureaucracy, castes and whatever else they thought deserved a bit of a dressing down. Satire was their means of writing an indignant letter to the editor.

    I know in Canada This Hour has 22 Minutes fills a similar role, what American comedy troups or performers do this in the U.S.?

    1. Re:Monty Python by Atzanteol · · Score: 2, Informative

      We have Saturday Night Live, but it's gotten rotten over the years.

      I can't believe as a Canadian you left out the Kids in the Halls though! Fantastic show if there ever was one. Never heard of This Hour has 22 Minutes...

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      - Charles Darwin
    2. Re:Monty Python by pknoll · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Comedy Central's "The Daily Show" is decent political satire. "Tough Crowd" also does a mix of political and social commentary, but for me is a bit hot and cold.

      Social satire prgramming includes (but is certainly not limited to) shows like "The Chappelle Show", "South Park", "The Simpsons" (which is still one of the most subtle), and when it was still airing, "Futurama". It's interesting how many of these kinds of programs are animated. Is it easier to speak dangerous words when your face isn't on the screen?

    3. Re:Monty Python by Jerf · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's interesting how many of these kinds of programs are animated. Is it easier to speak dangerous words when your face isn't on the screen?

      It's more flexible, which the satire can take advantage of to the hilt. On one of the Family Guy DVD commentaries, they observed how impossible the show would have been in live action, prompted by the show where Peter goes from fat slob, to thin slob, to thin, buff man, back to fat man in the course of half an hour. (Obviously you can fatten up an actor artificially, but the other direction is too violent to use for a TV show, and you certainly couldn't get them back to fat in one show's taping time.)

      Cartoon Nixon on Futurama is funnier then the real thing or an actor playing Nixon could ever have been. (On one of the Futurama commentaries, Matt Groening says when he was a kid he always dreamed of doing something to make fun of Nixon; he never dreamt how successful Nixon-mocking would be 25 years later... ;-) )

      Yes, I listen to the commentaries. Best part sometimes.

    4. Re:Monty Python by Imperator · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The problem with Tough Crowd is that Quinn (a) isn't really all that funny; and (b) uses the show to argue a conservative point of view against his guests, who are typically much funnier and more liberal than him. The show can be funny when he lets his guests speak long enough to deliver their punchlines, but too often it's just him trying to make a point about something.

      I mean, it's obvious that Comedy Central wanted a show with a conservative bent to follow the generally liberal Daily Show. There's nothing wrong with that, but the man they chose for it takes it as his personal mission. If it weren't so cheap (any comic with career issues will come on, and lots of comics owe favors to Comedy Central), I'm sure they'd just cut it. What kind of ratings can it get anyway?

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  16. Grail schmail by sketi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Call me flamebait, but I always thought Life of Brian was the Pythons' best work. Highly underrated, IMO.

  17. Jesus has risen from the dead and wants REVENGE! by Kris+Thalamus · · Score: 3, Funny

    If you like movies about re-animated corpses, you may also like the new version of Dawn of the Dead. Here is a review that compares the two films.

  18. I know this isn't Fark but.... by bloggins02 · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... SUMMON BEVETS!

  19. Re:Re Re Re released by xThinkx · · Score: 3, Insightful

    With as much crap as is released today, I'll gladly contribute my share to all of the folks who contributed to making and re-releasing this movie. I never understood why "timeless classics" stop playing in theaters. How many times have you wanted to go see a movie, in a theater (for a date, or just to get out of the house) and ended up watching something terrible like "scooby doo" because nothing good was playing? Life of Brian in the theaters will be an event to remember. Screw dressing up for star wars (every theatrical release of star wars post 1990 has been disappointing), I'm going to dig up my "Big Nose" costume.

    Hail theathar! and Welease Wodewik!

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  20. Aliens by Decaff · · Score: 2, Funny

    The film includes a brief alien abduction, which should mean its even more suited to the good old USA that it was when first released. Religion and Aliens - should appeal to virtually everyone there.

  21. People called Roman, they go towards the house? by Thedalek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a thinking Christian (Yes, such can and do exist), I never really had a problem with Life of Brian. It contains nothing which denies or detracts from the life and acts of Jesus, and accurately portrays the unthinking masses in a clever and thought provoking way.

    Really, the whole point of the film is that an awful lot of people believe things without fully thinking them through.

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    1. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by CaptainBaz · · Score: 2, Funny
      As a thinking Christian...
      an awful lot of people believe things without fully thinking them through
      . Looks like it's true - you guys really don't get irony...
    2. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by FiloEleven · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's obvious that the irony is understood, otherwise the inclusion of the parenthetical statement "Yes, such can and do exist" would have been omitted. It seems to me that you're the unthinking one in this exchange, as you've labelled the original poster as one of the many blindly believing masses when he clearly stated (and you quoted) that he wasn't. Or are you really so stupid as to believe that no Christians have reasoned through their faith and still have it?

    3. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by mdwebster · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's funny, because for me Occam's Razor would seem to suggest the simplest conclusion based on what we generally know to be possible (ie dead people don't come back to life). Otherwise the Razor would tell us things like "The dish was cleaned by a magical cleaning fairy while in the dishwasher" vs. the much-more complicated truth involving water pressure, heat and soap.

      So then the argument becomes whether there is an non-supernatural explanation for the events you listed.

      - His tomb never became a shrine.
      This seems to me to cut both ways. Why didn't it? Look! Jesus's tomb and it's empty! Wow, he really did rise from the dead!
      - Noone could produce the body.
      I'm taking your word here, but assuming that is true, what's wrong with the possibility that the tomb was robbed? Perhaps even by one or more of his followers in order that they might claim that he rose from the dead?
      - His followers were transformed.
      Maybe they were just eloquent scam-artists. Or maybe the majority of his followers genuinely believe based on the testimony of the few.

      Also to say that the Bible has historical significance and that it contains certain historical facts does not automatically vet everything written therein. At best it gives the unprovable portions slightly more credibility than they might otherwise enjoy, but they're still unprovable.

      Regardless, my own personal belief in Jesus would more revolve around his message than his actual personage. The important personage bits (like rising from the dead) can only be accepted by faith either way.

    4. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by Azghoul · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Oh, I don't know, I think being drawn and quartered would be worse. Actually, I don't know how you can say crucifixtion is any worse than most of the toys in a medieval torture chamber.

      But I'm not a christian...

    5. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by admiralh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As for the resurrection of Jesus, the burden of proof is not on those who believe it happened - it's on the sceptic.

      Sorry, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

      In short, to say Jesus didn't exist as a real historical figure who was executed during the Passover ceremony for blasphemy is exactly the kind of unscientific nonsense and blind faith that most often levelled against Christians.

      You are putting words in my post that weren't there. I never said that Jesus wasn't a historical person. What I said was "myth" was the resurrection of Jesus Christ. There are lots of more mundane reasons for being unable to produce Jesus's body, such as the followers stealing it and hiding it where the authorities couldn't find it.

      Occam's razor leads to a scary conclusion. For me it did anyway - Jesus was who he said he was.

      Did Jesus really say he was the Messiah? That is a debate that biblical scholars are still having today. Most of that came from John, which is by far the most "out there" of the Gospels w.r.t. earthly vs. supernatural events.

      The whole point of Occam's Razor is that you don't accept the extraordinary (read supernatural) explanations (e.g. resurrection, reincarnation, alien abduction) if there are more mundane explanations that explain the facts. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. And the preponderance of evidence for the resurrection of Christ comes from people who had a vested interest in the resurrection being true.

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    6. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by jsebrech · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I believe the point of all the gore was making people realise what "he died for our sins" exactly means.

    7. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by WalterSobchak · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The death and torture of Jesus is important. But the extreme focus on this distorts the view -- in my very humble opinion.
      "Evangelium" is the "Good News". I feel the slice that Gibon gives us is mostly suitable for inflicting feelings of guilt, or aggression. Not much good news there.

      Alex

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    8. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by mav[LAG] · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Sorry, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
      Of course they do which I'll get to. It's funny though that you sound like some Christians I know when you say that :)

      You are putting words in my post that weren't there. I never said that Jesus wasn't a historical person. What I said was "myth" was the resurrection of Jesus Christ. There are lots of more mundane reasons for being unable to produce Jesus's body, such as the followers stealing it and hiding it where the authorities couldn't find it.

      Sorry about that - unintended. OK, so we're agreed Jesus was a historical figure who was executed for blasphemy during a Passover sometime in the early first century AD. We differ on whether he rose from the dead or not.
      The problem is your "more mundane explanations" are much harder to defend given the evidence we have - especially the "followers stole the body" theory.
      • The Jewish leaders already catered for the disciples trying this trick. They weren't stupid. They had been listening to him for nearly three years saying he would rise from the dead. So they asked the Romans to guard the tomb.
      • The disciples had just seen their leader and mentor die a horrible death in public. Are we to believe they sneaked out of their hiding place where they had scuttled in the aftermath, sneaked past or disabled the Roman guards, and removed the body somewhere, then waited six weeks, then suddenly appear in the middle of the Feast of Weeks proclaiming him to be alive? Not only that but for the rest of their natural lives, they live a lie, chased around the middle east, tortured, imprisoned and often eventually martyred, proclaiming something they knew to be a lie? Not even one of them cracked? Please.
        Instead, they suddenly appeared at a festival which has attracted righteous Jews from all over the area and preach that it was all part of God's plan that Jesus should die and rise again. Not only that but they claimed boldly and comprehensively how he is the Messiah who was promised in the writings they all know so well.

      Did Jesus really say he was the Messiah? That is a debate that biblical scholars are still having today.

      Yeah - he was executed for it.

      Most of that came from John, which is by far the most "out there" of the Gospels w.r.t. earthly vs. supernatural events.

      Not really. John only records seven miracles of Jesus - the least of all the gospels - because, and I paraphrase, "Jesus did all sorts of other things which would take all the books in the world to write down. I've carefully selected these ones in my account to show you who he was so that you might believe in him."

      The whole point of Occam's Razor is that you don't accept the extraordinary (read supernatural) explanations (e.g. resurrection, reincarnation, alien abduction) if there are more mundane explanations that explain the facts.

      That's a subtle and disingenuous misreading of the principle. Occam's razor says "of two competing theories or explanations, all other things being equal, the simpler one is to be preferred."
      (from here)

      So our two competing explanations are (if I have yours right - if not please correct me):

      • Mine: Jesus rose from the dead because he was who he claimed to be - God become man. He then appeared to his frightened followers who were transformed by the sight and experience of their risen Messiah into fearless preachers of the new faith.
      • Yours: Jesus died and sometime over the weekend the followers stole the body from a heavily guarded tomb and hid it somewhere else. Then they popped up and started claiming he was alive. All of them stuck to this same story for decades with no inconsistencies or cracking - all but one meeting horrible deaths because of this claim. ALong the way, thousands of others who they convinced also met horrible deaths.
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    9. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by Rostin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Until I see such logical proof of this or any other religion, I shall continue to label all followers as "blindly believing masses".

      Why are Christians (or any other religious people) obligated to prove to you that their beliefs are true before you concede the possibility that they are not all "blindly believing masses?" Why does my rationality (in your mind) depend on my ability to prove something to you?

      Let's say for the sake of argument that you are the only sighted person in a society of totally blind people. You try as hard as you can to explain to the blind people that there are such things as light and color, but the skeptics insist that you are being irrational, because your proofs are not convincing enough to overcome their inability to see. Leaving aside the whole issue of whether or not the blind people are being rational in denying the existence of color and light, are YOU being rational in affirming it? Does this suggest anything to you about the rationality of your blanket assertion of the irrationality of all religious people?

    10. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by quisph · · Score: 2, Interesting
      His followers stealing the body and hiding it where the authorities couldn't find it is the extraordinary claim.
      More extraordinary than bringing him back from the dead? Sure. You go on believing that.
    11. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by handslikesnakes · · Score: 2

      the Judeo-Christian faith is surprisingly ruthless in its insistence on proof (broadly considered), evidence, truth, examination, 'cordial skepticism'...and correspondingly disdainful of those who believe nonsense.

      Phew. So Creationists are a figment of my imagination then?
      That's a relief.

    12. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by DunbarTheInept · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The burden of proof is NEVER on the skeptic. EVER. That's not how rational thought works.

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    13. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by admiralh · · Score: 2

      Obviously I've angered a master of the cut-and-paste.

      We could argue the niggly details for years. So let's put it this way: You say Christ died for a day and a half and then was resurrected. Fine. He did it once, He can do it again. Have him come back and let someone we trust (James Randi, perhaps? :-) verifiably kill him, let his body rot for 36 hours, and then have him come back to life. Then I'll believe. Otherwise, it's all hearsay.

      Sounds like a fair demonstration to me.

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    14. Re:People called Roman, they go towards the house? by DunbarTheInept · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Your "every scrap of historical and literary evidence" amounts to a few testimonies written after the alleged events were about a century old, that were chosen to be preserved by the Council of Nicea and subsequently were bound together into a book called "Bible". Anything contradictory would be long gone by now.

      Historians generally don't go on something that flimsy and call it 'fact'.

      In the end of the 1980's, Russia existed. Nuclear submarines existed. The CIA existed. The United States existed. There are documented cases of people defecting from Russia to the United States. Submarines would 'see' using sonar. The Russians often tried nagivating deep trenches in the atlantic with their submarines to evade notice.
      Therefore The Hunt For Red October must be a true story, right?

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  22. Re:Jesus has risen from the dead and wants REVENGE by Chalybeous · · Score: 5, Funny

    Y'know, I think Jesus had one hell of a lag problem. It took him three days to re-spawn...

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  23. Shoe or gourd? by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm so confused, with all these movies about Christ that are out now, should I be following the shoe? Or the gourd?

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  24. Blessed are the Slashdotters by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 4, Interesting
    marketing the film as an alternative to all the hype that Mel Gibson's film 'The Passion of the Christ' has generated.

    The thumpers finally get a film and someone has to get all opposition-like. Sheesh. Let the fairy-tale sucklers have their little MOOvie.

    ObBrian: The graffiti scene is one of the greatest scenes ever filmed in movie history.

    "People called Romanes they go the house?" :-)

    Would a Hollywood film ever have fun with Latin?

    No. In the Hollywood version, they'd have to have to words "bitch" and "ass" in the scene 50 times, and there would be at least one fart.

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  25. Or trying to cash in on. by LWATCDR · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "are marketing the film as an alternative to all the hype that Mel Gibson's film 'The Passion of the Christ' has generated."
    Or as a way to cash in on all the hype of 'The Passion of the Christ'. Frankly I have to say that I respect Mel Gibson for getting this movie made when no one else would but the after effect marketing, the passion of the christ pins at Books a Million, and now this is just too much. I find it sad the Monty Python would try and cash in like this. I am even a Python fan but this is just sad.

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    1. Re:Or trying to cash in on. by OhHellWithIt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      MP have never made any claims of not cashing in! Somewhere in my collection is a record entitled something like Monty Python: The Final Ripoff>. Frankly, I respect them for seizing the moment. I had been thinking of trying to book The Passion of the Christ and Life of Brian for a double feature over at the brew cinema.

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    2. Re:Or trying to cash in on. by DaveOf9thKey · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I find it sad the Monty Python would try and cash in like this.

      Good thing you never saw the "Eric Idle Exploits Monty Python" show when it was on tour a few years ago. Or Idle's more recent Greedy Bastard Tour.

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  26. Just read it by tmk · · Score: 3, Informative

    For those who cannot see it on the big screen:

    http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/sg/python/Scripts/LifeOfB ri an/brian.htm

  27. Re:Re Re Re released by Guy+Innagorillasuit · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Obviously you've forgotten about the spaceship scene. "You lucky bastard."

  28. Mel explicitly stated that he added Marianism... by leonbrooks · · Score: 4, Interesting
    ...in fact, he was surprised that Evangelical Christians were so happy about his movie, given its heavy Marianism.

    For reference, the two main Marian manuscripts cited are "The Dolorous Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ" by Anne Catherine Emmerich and "The Mystical City of God" by Saint Mary of Agreda.

    If Jesus was just a clever, wise or insightful man, his entire life was essentially wasted, and on top of that he is recorded as lying about his abilities. All of the serious documentation we have available from the time (and there's a surprising amount of it) indicates that he was considerably more than that. Jesus is better documented than any of the Caesars. There's also a heck of a lot of non-literate archaeological evidence which is very difficult to explain if the canonical record is not reliable.

    But in everyday life "we're all individuals" and will carry on believing what the majority tell us. "I'm not!"

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  29. A good look at terrorism by Jonny_eh · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Despite how geniously funny this movie is, it is also a great look at how ridiculous terrorism is. I can't stop laughing at the hate the two terrorist groups in the movie have for each other, the People's Front of Judea, and the Judean People's Front. It's like the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestein and the Palestein Liberation Organization. I can just image these guys sitting down saying: "What did the Israelis ever do for us?" "They gave us plumbing?" "Electricity?" "Internet?" "They built our schools?" It's just an observation, let's not turn this into a flame war.

  30. An OOP question by los+furtive · · Score: 4, Funny

    Did Jesus extend God, or did he just implement a Goldlike interface?

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    1. Re:An OOP question by happyfrogcow · · Score: 5, Funny

      what kind of crazy destructor would Jesus have? something that destroys him, but then calls a different constructor of his same type that casts him to a type Spirit from a type Messiah? Or would the destructor create a different instance of Jesus alltogether?

      weird wild stuff.

      'wolf nipple chips! get em while they're hot!'

    2. Re:An OOP question by pleumann · · Score: 5, Funny
      He can't be a descendant. God implements the Singleton pattern to ensure there are no duplicates of him. Since Singleton, if properly implemented (and I think we can surely assume that God's implementations are always flawless), also extends to subclasses, there could be no instance of Jesus, even if the class were declarable. So it may be best to assume that God is also a final class.



      I'd say Jesus uses the Proxy pattern to give people some sort of limited access to God by delegation. You could also see him as the stub object used to invoke a remote procedure call on God. Despite the seemingly matching name, Jesus does not implement the Visitor pattern. See the GOF book.



      Note that, even without Jesus, you can always initiate a client-server-communication with God bthrough a special form of message passing called "praying". Fun is, most people never get an acknowledge for the messages they've send, let alone a response.



      Very rarely people get messages from God without sending Him a message first. To do this, you need to implement the Prophet interface and register with God as an Observer.

    3. Re:An OOP question by infinite9 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Get your theology straight! God uses multiple inhieritance to bring together the father, the son, and the holy spirit!

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    4. Re:An OOP question by Fjord · · Score: 2, Funny

      Fun is, most people never get an acknowledge for the messages they've send, let alone a response.

      This is fine. His omniscience provides guaranteed delivery, but you have to accept that the message is asyncronous and may not be acted upon based upon God's will.

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  31. Antisemitism complaints? by WormholeFiend · · Score: 3, Funny

    Monty Python's 'Life of Bwian' elicits stwong weaction

    By: Incontinentia Buttox, Staff Wepowtew

    Monty Python's 'Life of Bwian' gwossed ovew $117 million thwough its fiwst weekend.

    Thewe's talk of Oscaw nominations. Many Chwistians say the film moved them to teaws. But of the welatively few Cleveland Jews the JPPF found who have seen the movie, most wewe distuwbed by what twanspiwed on the scween.

    "It's a hawd movie to watch," says Wob Zimmewman, co-chaiw of the Judean Populaw People's Fwont of the Jewish Community Fedewation of Cleveland. "It's essentially two houws of Bwian being mistaken for the weal Jesus being stwuck vewy woughly and cwucified." Because of the gwaphic silliness, he is not wecommending that Jews ow anyone else go see "The Life."

  32. Original Tagline still fits by jagilbertvt · · Score: 2, Funny

    See the movie that's controversial, sacrilegious, and blasphemous. But if that's not playing, see The Life of Brian.

  33. My kids... by trentfoley · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have two boys, 9 and 6, that stumbled across my old Monty Python videotapes. I played "Holy Grail" for them and they were in stitches. I played "Life of Brian", and not suprisingly, the more sophisticated content was so over their heads that they didn't enjoy it. I played "Meaning of Life" and they were just plain confused, but laughing.

    Maybe after a few more years of Catholic school, my sons will appreciate the brilliance of "Life of Brian". For now, "Holy Grail" is the hit.

    The last time we watched it, my 9 year old son answered the question, "What is the capital of Assyria?". "Nineva, you dolt!" he exclaimed. He smiled and smugly looked up to me and said, "I googled it. I don't want to be blasted off of some bridge." That's my boy.

  34. Re:Yeah, but what's hot in the UK now? by martinthebrit · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Little Britain. It's great, but again, probably one that 95% of American's won't understand, due to cultural differences, and that won't survive a remake. Stars Matt Lucas of Shooting Stars fame.

    Also good at the moment, Nighty Night (think darker than the League of Gentlemen) and Catterick (if you like Vic and Bob that is).

    Black Books is also in the middle of a very funny third series.

    Of course most of these are shows that have probably never been heard of in the US - pity, so visit BBC Comedy and Black books for more detail.

  35. Re:Re Re Re released by SamSpectre · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not sure if WANT to see Graham Chapman's full monty in larger than life size...

  36. Re:What about the Norwegians? by fluoronaut · · Score: 4, Informative
    According to this page (scroll about two thirds of the way down):
    This film was initially banned in Norway for blasphemy. It wasn't released there until 1980. Subsequently, it has been marketed in Sweden as "The film that is so funny that it was banned in Norway!"
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  37. Re:Re Re Re released by MalaclypseTheYounger · · Score: 2, Funny
    anyway, point being... consumers aren't always logical.

    Good evening.

    The last scene was interesting from the point of view of a professional logician because it contained a number of logical fallacies; that is, invalid propositional constructions and syllogistic forms, of the type so often committed by my wife. "All wood burns," states Sir Bedevere. "Therefore," he concludes, "all that burns is wood." This is, of course, pure bullshit. Universal affirmatives can only be partially converted: all of Alma Cogan is dead, but only some of the class of dead people are Alma Cogan. "Oh yes," one would think.

    However, my wife does not understand this necessary limitation of the conversion of a proposition; consequently, she does not understand me. For how can a woman expect to appreciate a professor of logic, if the simplest cloth-eared syllogism causes her to flounder.

    For example, given the premise, "all fish live underwater" and "all mackerel are fish", my wife will conclude, not that "all mackerel live underwater", but that "if she buys kippers it will not rain", or that "trout live in trees", or even that "I do not love her any more." This she calls "using her intuition". I call it "crap", and it gets me very *irritated* because it is not logical.

    "There will be no supper tonight," she will sometimes cry upon my return home. "Why not?" I will ask. "Because I have been screwing the milkman all day," she will say, quite oblivious of the howling error she has made. "But," I will wearily point out, "even given that the activities of screwing the milkman and getting supper are mutually exclusive, now that the screwing is over, surely then, supper may, logically, be got." "You don't love me any more," she will now often postulate. "If you did, you would give me one now and again, so that I would not have to rely on that rancid Pakistani for my orgasms." "I will give you one after you have got me my supper," I now usually scream, "but not before" -- as you understand, making her bang contingent on the arrival of my supper.

    "God, you turn me on when you're angry, you ancient brute!" she now mysteriously deduces, forcing her sweetly throbbing tongue down my throat. "Fuck supper!" I now invariably conclude, throwing logic somewhat joyously to the four winds, and so we thrash about on our milk-stained floor, transported by animal passion, until we sink back, exhausted, onto the cartons of yoghurt.

    I'm afraid I seem to have strayed somewhat from my original brief. But in a nutshell:

    Sex is more fun than logic -- one cannot prove this, but it "is" in the same sense that Mount Everest "is", or that Alma Cogan "isn't".

    Goodnight.

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  38. Re:Memo to God by Cruciform · · Score: 2, Insightful

    yeah yeah troll. think about this:

    If religion didn't already exist, P.T. Barnum would have invented it.

  39. Why the flamebait headline michael? by StandardCell · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I hope you understand my real point in this headline instead of modding me down.

    Instead of letting Life of Brian stand on its own, you just have to draw the the comparison between the Passion and proudly declare the the seasonal alternative. If I didn't know better, your end statement seems to imply you feel very threatened by Passion and comforted by Life of Brian.

    Here's a small hint: live and let live. Nobody is forcing you to watch Passion. For a lot of geeks, the release of Passion would've been just as big a news item as this, but it has a snowball's chance on a blue star of having that happen. If you're not comfortable enough with your beliefs to let Life of Brian stand on its own, or feel that you need to try to counter or bring down the beliefs of others, then you need to address your own personal crisis without dragging all of Slashdot in with you.

    No matter what I believe, I recognize your right to believe whatever else you want. You should do the same. Just don't use Slashdot as your religious indoctrination platform. You'd be smart to leave those comments to the comments and not risk losing a small segment of readers who see the comment for what it is and threaten your ad revenue. Most of us don't go around trumpeting our religious beliefs at work, so don't do it here.

    1. Re:Why the flamebait headline michael? by nukem1999 · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you RTFA or even RTFP, you'll see that the Python crew and Rainbow Films are marketing it as an alternative to Passion. Passion is the very reason they're re-releasing it now. It's satire, social commentary, it's the very foundation of Monty Python.

  40. Re:What have the Americans done for us ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    You say with pride that you US Americans invented:
    1. The airplane
    2. High rise buildings

    Interesting. It would seem you are responsible for 9-11 yourselves. You invented the dangerous building type and the effective weapon against them.

  41. Re:Re Re Re released by Spacejock · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My local university put Pink Floyd's 'The Wall' on the big screen back in 198x. First (and only) time I've ever seen it, I don't want to spoil it by watching it on a tv.

    Yes, if my local theatre puts Life of Brian on I'll go and see it. It's immersion vs entertainment.

  42. Re:What have the Americans done for us ? by perly-king-69 · · Score: 4, Informative
    Electricity - Gray in the early 1700s?

    Telephone - Either Bell (British) or Meuci (Italian)

    Automobile - Karl Benz (German)

    High rise building - Quite tall, no?

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  43. It's amazing by KalvinB · · Score: 2, Insightful

    how many people completely miss the point of "The Passion."

    Apparently they were two busy being mortified by the violence to read the subtitles which did in fact reveal much about Christ's teachings. Not only "The Passion" as in his death and resurrection but his passion as in the number of times he forgave those who were scorning him. If you notice he even forgave the people who nearly whipped him to death. The verse at the beginning was also key but apparently ignored considering all the critisism about it being anti-semetic. What part of "our" didn't they comprehend? Some guy even when so far as to try to tell Gibson to put a disclaimer at the end. IT WAS AT THE BEGINNING!

    One reviewer was so dense they complained (paraphrasing) "so much for love they neighbor." What part of forgiving your tormentors isn't loving your neighbor? Geesh. Apparently we're too accustomed to Disney morality tales where it's all cutesy and they spell it out for you at the end like you're 2 years old.

    The whole reason "satan" was put in was to give Mel something of a narrarator. When Satan spoke it was usually a negation of something out of the Bible. I'd imagine that people who never read the Bible (or don't know even the basics) had no clue what the point of the snake was at the beginning. It was a reference to what God said in the Garden of Eden after kicking Adam and Eve out.

    This movie really revealed a lot about those who reviewed it. The people who didn't "get it" and whined about the violence and didn't catch the doctrine that was presented are probably just generally bad at philosophy or never took the time to study the Bible. It's an art film. It wasn't intended to be a mass market film.

    This is not a movie that you can just be a professional critic and have a valid opinion. It's amazing how many critics complained that a square has three sides.

    On Topic: Life of Brian is hilarious and I'll definitly be seeing it in the theater. I've watched the DVD many times.

    I don't know if I'll buy "The Passion" on DVD. It's not exactly a movie you'd watch just for the heck of it.

    Ben

    1. Re:It's amazing by quisph · · Score: 2, Informative
      It's an art film. It wasn't intended to be a mass market film.
      Opening weekend, $84 million? Opening on 3,000+ screens? I call bullshit.
  44. 'everyone' likes this movie by zaunuz · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A year ago i went to a christian school. I am not a christian myself, but all of the teachers were. The most fanatic teacher of them all were asked if we could see "Life of Brian" in religion class. Surprisingly enhough he answered "I really love that movie, but I dont dare to show it in class, since I may get reactions from the other teachers".

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  45. Re:Mel explicitly stated that he added Marianism.. by perly-king-69 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Jesus is better documented than any of the Caesars

    You have contemporary (and I mean contemporary, not 50, 100 years post) documentation of Jesus' life? Something that compares to Augustus' Res Gestae, Julius Caesars' Gallic Wars, Marcus Aurelius' Meditations, Trajan's letters to Pliny...I could go on...? Do please tell!

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  46. Wasn't the LOB really about radical politics? by 1iar_parad0x · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've always thought "The Life Of Brian" was a parody of the radical 60's political movement. Brian joined the Jewish underground because he's attracted to a girl, not because he really cares about politics. They plot meaningless proganda attacks against the Romans, and argue with splinter factions. I tought the aquaduct and "why can't men have babies" scenes where priceless.

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    1. Re:Wasn't the LOB really about radical politics? by nat5an · · Score: 4, Interesting
      It's also an awesome parody of the likely inconsequential origin of strongly held religious beliefs. Like when Brian is running away from his "disciples" and he loses his sandal, and the crowd immediately begins arguing over whether it means they need to take off their sandal to be like him, or whether it means to ignore the things of the body and concentrate on the face and head, etc. Then they immediately split into two sects, one which follows the "Holy Gourd of Jerusalem" and the other which follows the sandal.

      Oh, it's just brilliant. :-)

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    2. Re:Wasn't the LOB really about radical politics? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The poltical/terror groups protrayed in LOB are actually pretty close to what was going on in Judea at the time. Perhaps not as comically... but pretty bloody close. The country was riddled with tiny factionalised groups trying to remove the oppresive Roman occupiers[*] and fighting amongst themselves as much as the Romans.

      Alas for the Romans stationed there it was the armpit of the Empire. The Romans didnt really want Judea. It didnt really get them wealth or power. They invaded Judea at the request of the Eygptian province(which was part of the empire). Because bands of invaders keep raiding into Eygpt.

      [*]Who werent actually that bad... in fact a lot of countries joined the empire without coersion as it made your country a lot better off... the romans had a standard deal to the king of a country... let us run your country but only after you die. In exchange will give you milarty support against your neighbours. A sweet deal for both parties. The romans will enventually get a new country, the neighbours wont make any trouble... but if they do the Romans have an excuse to conquer them

  47. Bryan as a first!? by GAVollink · · Score: 2, Insightful
    If you have never seen Monty Python movies before, you may find this one a little dis-appointing. It's not the hands-down funniest movie they made. I'd put it third (just to warn you).

    1. ... and The Holy Grail
    2. The Meaning of Life
    3. Life of Bryan

    In some ways you could equate the Life of Brian to a funnier Forrest Gump, but you'll have to see it to understand what that means.

  48. Re:Jesus had to die by Kris+Thalamus · · Score: 2, Funny

    Jesus had the power to bring himself down from the cross, but he GAVE his life up out of love for you and me, so that we may all be saved.

    Hmm... interesting. So, this must be an early example of suicide by police.

  49. Re-released ad infinitum by cryptochrome · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Re-releasing makes perfect sense if you can make money off of it. If a movie came out a generation ago (which Life of Brian did) then that's a whole generation in the original target demographic that didn't see it in the theaters, most of whom never saw it at all.

    Frankly I wish they'd re-release more good old movies. It would cut down on the embarassingly crappy remakes, and hopefully cut back on the number of crappy movies made yearly as well since they'd have some stiff competition. Film festivals just don't have the critical mass and eyeball coverage that a wide re-release does.

    Personally I rarely watch anything more than once, and if I do it's generally many many years apart. So buying DVDs/videos doesn't make any sense to me in the first place. I rent or see it in the theaters.

    As for The Passion, Mel Gibson has cleverly made a film that people go to as an act of faith. He'll be making money hand over fist on this film for years if not decades to come. People don't even have to enjoy it, they just have to feel like seeing it makes them pious. Because if you haven't seen The Passion you're not a good Christian.

    So here's the real question - what will be re-released next year around easter as counterprogramming to the re-release of The Passion of The Christ? And the next? And will this lead to more companies re-releasing old films in theaters?

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  50. I think it's legit by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Regardless of how good or bad the Passion is, the churchies are going quite nuts over it. There are groups doing drives to raise money to buy tickets and to try and convince people to go. That is just silly. They aren't liking it because it's a good movie, they like it because it's about Jesus and so they feel they are SUPPOSED to like it.

    Well, this is a poke back at that. I mean people (probably the same people doing the Passion drives) just VILLIFIED The Life of Brian when it came out because it dared to make fun of the church. They ignored any merits of the movie and hated it simply because they were supposed to hate it since it made fun of the church.

  51. Dear Jesus-Freak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Thank you for quoting the Bible, and letting us know that we must follow what God says.

    I will add this to my list of things God has also said in the bible, which we must obey, lest we burn in the fires of hell.

    A. Marriage in the United States shall consist of a union between one man and one or more women. (Gen 29:17-28; II Sam 3:2-5)

    "B. Marriage shall not impede a man's right to take concubines in addition to his wife or wives. (II Sam 5:13; I Kings 11:3; II Chron 11:21)

    "C. A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin. If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be executed. (Deut 22:13-21)

    "D. Marriage of a believer and a non-believer shall be forbidden. (Gen 24:3; Num 25:1-9; Ezra 9:12; Neh 10:30)

    "E. Since marriage is for life, neither this Constitution nor the constitution of any State, nor any state or federal law, shall be construed to permit divorce. (Deut 22:19; Mark 10:9)

    "F. If a married man dies without children, his brother shall marry the widow. If he refuses to marry his brother's widow or deliberately does not give her children, he shall pay a fine of one shoe and be otherwise punished in a manner to be determined by law. (Gen 38:6-10; Deut 25:5-10)

    "G. In lieu of marriage, if there are no acceptable men in your town, it is required that you get your dad drunk and have sex with him (even if he had previously offered you up as a sex toy to men young and old), tag-teaming with any sisters you may have. Of course, this rule applies only if you are female. (Gen 19:31-36)

    1. Re:Dear Jesus-Freak by fenix+down · · Score: 2, Funny

      God's been in Washington long enough to take both sides on just about every issue.

  52. Let me generalize your message by Valdrax · · Score: 2, Funny

    I've never understood this.

    You're a [member of some group]. [One that doesn't meet my hateful stereotype], even. Congrats.

    Why should that make you, and every other [person who I will mockingly name by the way they claim to violate my preconceived notions of your group], [do something that matches my stereotype for you], [do something else that matches a stereotype] ([example other group "you people" all fit into], usually), or [do something ignorant that yet again matches a stereotype (and I will ellucidate further a description of my bias against you)]?

    There doesn't seem to be [any reason or source material for you all acting like], so [why do you all act alike]?

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  53. Free (as in beer) slogan suggestion.. by McNally · · Score: 3, Funny
    Free slogan suggestion for the distributors:
    "If you see only one crucifixion movie this year.."
  54. Re:Mel explicitly stated that he added Marianism.. by Findus+Krispy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    All of the serious documentation we have available from the time (and there's a surprising amount of it) indicates that he was considerably more than that.


    Could you please provide us some links to any of this great corpus of literature you allure to?

    As far as I understand it, there isn't a single piece of historcial literature where Jesus was ever mentioned. You can find a summary of historical evidence here, or read a detailed account Truth About Jesus, The : Is He a Myth?, available as Gutenberg etext #6107.
  55. Re:What have the Americans done for us ? by RLW · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There are no inherent HUMAN rights beyond what a society grants to those who live it. Brutality, slavery, and callousness towards others is the norm over the course of HUMAN history. HUMAN rights as a notion is a new comer. Anyone who says otherwise is a history revisionist.

    Perhaps Americans are arrogant, but to large degree Americans do have a basis for that arrogance. If the rest of the world wants what America has then stop bitching about it and do it.

  56. Now, a spoof of Islam by Animats · · Score: 4, Interesting
    We need a good spoof of Islam, to be beamed at the Islamic world. They need to lighten up.

    Mohammed's life makes a great comedy. He married an older women for money. He became a used camel dealer. He had a favorite slave girl, Zaid. Then he went into religion around age 40. For years, he was considered a nutcase. Somehow, he and his followers managed to take over Medina, after which he started invading and conquering neighboring countries.

    Visualize the Python version of that. It would drive the Islamic world nuts. But it would be worth it. Make sure it gets on satellite TV and file-sharing networks, so Arab kids see it. In most of the Islamic world, kids are forced to OD on religion, because the religious types run the schools. It's like the Dark Ages in Europe.

    The last major film about Islam, Mohammed, Messenger of God, was way too respectful. It doesn't even show the face of Mohammed (played by Anthony Quinn), to respect Islamic tradition. The Saudis use it as a training film. It was pulled from US theaters in 1976 after threats from people we'd today call terrorists. Today, the US wouldn't back down.

  57. Apologies to the Daily Show... by GPLDAN · · Score: 4, Funny

    Jon Stewart's joke from the Daily Show...

    "So, this week's box office reciepts show that 'Dawn of the Dead' has unseated 'Passion of the Christ' as the #1 movie in America. Lesson? One person rising from the dead...good. Lots of people rising from the dead...better."

  58. Last temptation of Christ by gte910h · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...was what I watched last night. It has Willem DeFoe (think Inspector from Boondock Saints) as Jesus and Harvey Keitel (think the Wolf from Pulp Fiction) as a good Judas.

    So completely a better movie than the passion, and also, the other roles these actors have played just made it funny as well.

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  59. Re:That Flood Story by willtsmith · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Actually, the best geological explanation I've seen is the flooding of the Black Sea basin. There used to be a big lake down there until the passage breached and let the Mediterranean in.

    The archaeologists have actually down excavations down there and found "tells" under the sea on the old water line (belonging to the lake). This is a pretty good fit for the biblical flood given both it's scope and it's proximity to Babylon where the story could easily be brought by migrants, refugees and traders.

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  60. Or do they have a valid point to make? by lysium · · Score: 2, Interesting
    It is sad that you respect the man who made The Most Violent and Bloodiest Story Ever Told. Of all the movies about Jesus, Mel's is the only one that focuses solely upon pain and torment. Face it, he butchered the story to push an agenda. The Pythons are rereleasing a parody that demonstrates the folly of fervent religiousity of the terminally stupid; if they can make a few dollars while doing so, good for them.

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  61. Re:What have the Americans done for us ? by spood · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I found myself amazed that this comment got modded to funny. Then I started to think about our international readership, and started wondering if global opinion about us has sunk so low that they find humor in our misfortune. Of course, we are responsible for that low opinion ourselves.

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  62. Re:What have the Americans done for us ? by RLW · · Score: 2, Informative

    Giving Gray credit where credit is due but he was neither the first discover electricity nor did he make electricity assessable to society. For that the prize goes to Eddison.
    Brief history of electricity

    Bell is indeed Scottish. His patent applications for the telephone are filed first in the US. Also it is AT&T thatmakes the telephone ubiquitous.

    Nicolaus August Otto invented the gas motor engine in 1876. It was Ford who gave the auto to everyone.

    As for pyramids, well they are tall. They also have neat stuff inside. They are also 99.99 etc. percent stone. Hardly qualifies as a high rise building.

    I'm not saying that America is perfect or for every one or is the only contributor to knowledge but I am stating this: It is the American sense of entrepreneurship, ownership and freedom that makes so many great things possible. After The US has been around long enough to grow it's own inventors then the list provided is truly American. No other country in the history of civilization has advanced discovery, science and engineering like the US. period.

    Name any single country that has even come close. Just one.

  63. Re:What have the Americans done for us ? by AlistairGroves · · Score: 2, Informative

    It was Ford who gave the auto to everyone.

    That's a bit different to inventing the car though. Although he did invent something - the assembly line process.

  64. Get some of the facts straight first... by denzo · · Score: 4, Informative
    then you can make a parody. ;)

    1) Zaid was his adopted son (and one of his most devoted followers), not a slave girl.

    2) They did not take over Medina, but were invited to move there to escape the persecution of the Kuraish aristocrats who were in control of Mecca. The two major Jewish tribes of Medina were particularly interested in Mohammed (PBUH) to help mediate their disagreements. Sure, he kicked a bunch of them out of Medina after they conspired against him, but that's a different story.

    3) Anthony Quinn played the role of Hamzah "Lion of the Desert", Mohammed's uncle who converted to Islam. BTW, it not only doesn't portray Mohammed on the screen, but other important figures such as his best friend Abu Bakr, and his cousin Ali (to be the first and second Caliphs of Islam, respectively, after Mohammad's death). This belief also extends to all of the other Prophets, including Jesus and Moses. I don't believe this effect detracts at all from the film, on the contrary, I believe the film actually works better this way.

    4) The movie's title is actually "The Message". It's not only on the cover of the video in English, but also the Arabic "Ar-risallah" written on a flag in the artwork. Sidepoint: this movie was filmed both in English and Arabic separately, with different actors for each language (both with an impressive cast billing for their respective audience). I wish they released both versions on the DVD instead of just English.

    5) As far as I know, "The Message" was banned in various Arab countries, especially Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. I don't know if this still is the case. Despite its carefulness in respecting beliefs of the most conservative Muslims, it apparantly wasn't enough.

    1. Re:Get some of the facts straight first... by Animats · · Score: 2, Informative
      1) Right. In Mohammed's later life, there was a scandal involving Zaynab, the wife of his adopted son Zaid. See sura 33:36-38.

      2) Yeah, they didn't take over Medina until later.

      3) I know that his face is never shown in the film. I thought that Anthony Qunnn was his voice, but apparently not.

      4) It was called "Mohammed, Messenger of God" in theatrical release.

      5) It's always been controversial, but it's really very respectful of Islam.

  65. Re:What have the Americans done for us ? by RLW · · Score: 2, Informative

    I stand corrected. I tented to make the original list include things that America made with in turn made America. With out Ford the auto would not have had the same impact. Until Ford the car was only owned the privileged class. He invented the assembly line but he also democratized the auto industry: virtually everyone my own one and therefore has input into car design by virtue of market demands.

  66. What does this have to do with anything? by mydoghasworms · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I am rather disappointed by the reaction to this post. I understand that most of Slashdot readers are movie buffs besides being geeks and open source followers, and Monty Python has a strong following among them. However, considering the reaction this post has drawn, much of it disrespectful to the Christian faith, I wonder: What has this got to do with open source and the open source community (remember - OSDN)? That is the main reason I read Slashdot, and is what I understand to be the main purpose for Slashdot. I understand Micheal posted this with informative intent, but I think there are more appropriate websites for these kind of announcements.

  67. Re:"Alternative to hype"...? by JonKatzIsAnIdiot · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why does this person feel like The Passion needs some kind of antidote? Why should this movie need "counter-programming"? What's wrong with having a millions of people very interested in a film which, like it or not, has serious artistic merit? Even if it didn't have artistic merit, why should a popular movie need an alternative?

    Quite obviously, despite protestations to the contrary of aethiests, agnostics and liberals, thier desires to push thier own beliefs on the world are just as strong as the Christians they're constantly accusing.

  68. Message of The Passion by superyooser · · Score: 2, Informative
    1. I think it is Mel milking a certain group for all he can get from them. I think he is in it first and foremost for the money and the buzz.

    I think your cynicism is preventing you from getting the message of the movie. You only harm yourself by assuming negative motives for people who have provided something positive and helpful for you in your spiritual walk.

    2. Why? Why in the hell do we need hours of blood and gore.

    Because that's the way it happened. The Messianic prophecy in Isaiah 52:14 reads:

    Just as there were many who were appalled at him - his appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any man and his form marred beyond human likeness-
    Isaiah 53:5 says that "by his stripes ( Passion screen) we are healed." Just like in the movie - He was turned into a scourged piece of bloody meat almost not recognizable as human. The Romans didn't invent crucifixion, but they devised ways to inflict the maximum amount of pain.

    Why all the blood? Read Leviticus. Redemption is in the blood. Eternal life is in the blood. Read John 6. It is the blood of the New Covenant. We drink the Christ's blood (symbolically) when we observe the Lord's Supper. For me, the blood in The Passion is not gross. It's uplifting. I feel extreme gratitude and joy.

    I don't think it sends any kind of message that would help us to live better lives and be better to each other.

    The Palm Beach Post reported on March 18 that a man robbed a bank of $25,000 more than two years ago in Palm Beach Gardens, Florida. He surrendered because "he was stirred deeply after watching The Passion of the Christ and felt compelled to come clean." "He said, 'I saw The Passion, and that made my decision,'" said Paul Miller, a spokesman for the sheriff's office. "And he sort of urged [the detective] to see the movie too."

    We are a visual generation. We watch TV and movies more than we read books. Putting the passion of the gospels into visual format makes it real to us. Do you think that reading about the 9/11 explosions of the World Trade Center would have evoked the same level of shock and awe as reading "there was an explosion" in a newspaper's black ink? Seeing the Passion forces us to come face to face with our sin and God's response of grace. The experience makes us sad that God had to send His Son to suffer and die because of us, the viewers. It prods us to repent, and when we repent, we live better lives. We regret how much we grieve Him by not loving Him with all our heart, soul, strength, and mind and not loving our neighbors as ourselves.

    Which is really what the whole message of Jesus is about.

    That's what the whole movie was about. From beginning to end, there was evil and brutality, but it was within the context of an act of love and sacrifice. The sacrifice was on behalf of sin just such as was committed in torturing this innocent Jew and Messiah. His sacrifice was the greatest act of love in all of history. And it was done on your behalf, and mine. The Lord Jesus Christ paid the enormous ransom for our sin that only He could pay, thereby saving us from the torment of hell, and that is what Mel Gibson's movie is all about.

  69. Except that sight can be proven by ttfkam · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sighted person: Okay, stand right where you are.
    Blind skeptic: Why?
    SP: I'm going to take ten paces away from you.
    BS: Okay.
    SP: Now hold up one of your hands. Aha! You just raised your left hand.
    BS: What about now?
    SP: It's still your left hand.
    BS: How did you know that?
    SP: I can see.

    Now have the sighted person get four items, each a different color, and hand them out. The items should have the same size, shape and texture. Have the sighted person identify each item to the person holding it. Have the sighted person occupied by a fifth volunteer so that the activites of the first four are hidden from sight. The first four will now trade with each other, whispering the color the sighted person attributed to the item he/she held. The sighted person is brought back into view and questioned about the items again. Repeat with a new group of blind volunteers. Assuming the blind are honest, this would provide proof. It's called "The Scientific Method."

    On the other hand, the proofs I hear from theists include

    1. I know God exists because I can feel his presence
    2. Something amazingly good happened to me when it should have been bad
    3. If God doesn't exist, how do you explain this world we live in?
    4. 95% of the people in the world believe in a supreme being. What makes you right and everyone else wrong?
    5. I see God's work everywhere
    6. The Bible/Koran/Torah

    Responses:

    1. Ever been camping and notice some insect or spider crawling on your leg? Or rather, you thought there was something crawling on your leg but when you looked and swatted, nothing was there. Our senses are fallible. The only way to know for sure would be to see the bug -- something observable that others can observe as well.
    2. Yes, the NFL wide receiver argument. "I want to thank God for giving me the ability to make that touchdown..." Yet we never hear, "We were kicking the other team's ass when Jesus suddenly decided to make me fumble three times." Good people win the lottery. Bad people win the lottery. Good people survive car accidents. Bad people survive car accidents. What makes you, the God-fearing Christian, more special than the other God-fearing Christian who is now hamburger in their smashed up Toyota Celica?
    3. If the Giant Burnt Umber Crayon didn't throw a rave one hundred years ago in Grand Central Station, how do you explain the world? Same argument, different subject. It begs the question. Your conclusion is the same as one of your premises.
    4. Fallacy of argumentum ad populum. "Nature abhors a vacuum." At one time, it was accepted by most. Popular agreement is not the same as proof. All things considered, it was a good theory at the time. It is still wrong.
    5. I see the same world as you, but with no god in it. Once again, begging the question. God exists. The world is a product of God. The world exists. Therefore God exists. Take away the first premise and the argument falls apart.
    6. Giant Burnt Umber Crayon

    I know that I will hear noise about "strawman." Fair enough. Provide proof and we'll be done with it. If you can't provide proof, God is as likely to exist as the Giant Burnt Umber Crayon.

    You are free to believe what you will. But unless you can demonstrate it to others, don't be indignant when others point and laugh at you when you proclaim it as truth. Don't want pointing and laughter, keep it to yourself or prove it.

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  70. Re:Jesus had to die by Kris+Thalamus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Jesus did not take his own life. He GAVE his life up while we (all of us) crucified Him. There is a difference.

    Sure, he didn't pull the trigger or nail himself to a cross. On that same merit I can jump in front of a moving bus and blame the driver for not stopping. The point is that he intentionally let himself die, which qualifies him as suicidal in many people's eyes.

  71. I love The life of Brian, but... by SnakeNuts · · Score: 3, Funny

    They should re-release Jesus Christ Superstar. And as I'm listening to the soundtrack right now, I can say that is the only reason for me: the sheer beauty of the production. I get chills every time I hear or see the movie. I'm not a believer myself (although I was raised a catholic) but this movie/musical just connects with me on all levels.

    I'll go back to sobbing to the soundtrack now...

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