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Comcast Signs Deal To Acquire TechTV

FPCat writes "Comcast has purchased TechTV. They plan to merge the station with G4. Maybe they'll stop showing Robot Wars and put some decent shows on instead. In either case, with Leo Laporte no longer hosting The Screen Savers, I expect big changes on the station..." (Of course, at this point they've only agreed to buy.)

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  1. Heh. by outZider · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes, because as we all know, Comcast means Quality.

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  2. TechTV should be on regular cable. by emo+boy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There. I've said my piece.

  3. Another [probable] blow to objective journalism... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...since Microsoft owns quite a chunk of Comcast, once this deal goes through you will have heard the last of any criticism of Microsoft or their products on TechTV.

  4. Re:Curious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anybody else have a weird feeling that Comcast is trying to buy out the entire world....

    Why yes... we are....

    Anyways... how much for your house and family??

  5. lineup by millahtime · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have some lineup show ideas.... 1) On Macs 2) Chicks of teck world 3) On open source 4) Hot chicks of the tech world in bathing suits 5) Cool new toys 6) Hot chicks of the tech world in bathing suits showing off cool new tech toys 7) A show of extreme dating meets tech folks (with hot chicks only) .....

    1. Re:lineup by BMonger · · Score: 5, Funny

      Paige Davis needs to host the new case mod show called...

      "Trading Cases".

    2. Re:lineup by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Funny
      ...and she should be in a bikini

      (aww, frig! Now I'm showing my age!)

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  6. It is to bad. by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It is to bad that both of these stations just seem to stay very light on the true tech stuff. It would be nice if it were more like a discovery channel for tech stuff. Heck I would love a station that shows different algorithms, or different ways to do things in different languages. But Tech TV and G4 (Especially G4) just seemed like the Commercial Channel that advertises all that is l33t. Tech TV has a couple of good show but they were still laking. I guess that is why I watch Nasa TV.

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    1. Re:It is to bad. by David+Hume · · Score: 5, Funny

      Heck I would love a station that shows different algorithms, or different ways to do things in different languages.


      Now there is a recipe for high ratings.

    2. Re:It is to bad. by TCaptain · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'd love this too, problem is that only maybe 10 people would watch it. :/

      The rest wouldn't even change to THAT channel..it would just hurt their brains too much.

      The lowest common denominator is just too damn low.

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    3. Re:It is to bad. by Zathrus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It would be nice if it were more like a discovery channel for tech stuff.

      Er... TechTV is.

      What, you think Discovery Channel (and its progeny) are hardcore science/history/etc.? Please. I enjoy a lot of programs on those channels, but I also know they're about as well respected by "serious" historians and in-field scientists as The Screen Savers is respected by real techies.

  7. "I'm into murders and executions." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Even though I only have basic cable, I have seen countless hours of TechTV and G4 when I had the chance. TechTV showed in 1 hour what G4 bloated into 8.

    G4 never had potential. Games are an interactive media. Why in God's name would you want to read news and view clips of other people playing games when you could be playing them yourself? Why wait 25 minutes see a review on a game you're curious about when you can go online and find it in 25 seconds?

    Hopefully this merger will in effect kill G4 completely and simply give TechTV a little more programming devoted to video games instead.

    But then again, you'll probably have to pay a premium channel fee to get this new 2-in-1 channel anyway.

    1. Re:"I'm into murders and executions." by daveo0331 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      G4 never had potential. Games are an interactive media. Why in God's name would you want to read news and view clips of other people playing games when you could be playing them yourself? Why wait 25 minutes see a review on a game you're curious about when you can go online and find it in 25 seconds?

      I agree, but wouldn't this criticism apply to a lot of other (successful) TV shows too? Why should I sit through 25 minutes of "news" stories I don't care about to see the one story I could have found in 25 seconds on an internet news site? Why sit through the Oscars when I can just look up the winners the next day on the web? Why watch an NBA game instead of going outside and actually playing basketball?

      TV doesn't have to be all that good, it just has to be good enough to grab your attention while channel surfing.

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    2. Re:"I'm into murders and executions." by smcn · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Why in God's name would you want to read news and view clips of other people playing games when you could be playing them yourself?

      I've never watched G4, but I did once have a subscription to IGN.com and the video previews were my favorite part. Sometimes screenshots just aren't enough.

      Why wait 25 minutes see a review on a game you're curious about when you can go online and find it in 25 seconds?

      That's an easy one: Not everyone who plays video games has internet access, the same way not everyone who goes to see movies has internet access. Why do you think Roger Ebert has been on TV for so many years?
  8. Please, please! by Torgo's+Pizza · · Score: 4, Funny

    Let Adam Sessler be next to go!

    1. Re:Please, please! by Ayaress · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Ok, Adam, yes. He acts like he's stoned, drunk, and/or dizzy all the time. But Martin? Come on, you can't get rid of him. What would a channel about the internet be without a show that mostly just talks about porno?

    2. Re:Please, please! by jgoemat · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You have got to be kidding... Back when X-Play was Extended Play and before Morgan started annoying me with her voice it was a much better show. The comments were much more funny and you didn't have to put up with Morgan and Adam's annoying forced banter. Sure she has great honkers, but they could just review more games like DOA Volleyball to make up for it.

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  10. Re:Another [probable] blow to objective journalism by Knightmare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You mean just like msnbc which covers all the anti microsoft stories just like the rest of the media?

  11. Finally! by Xoder · · Score: 4, Funny

    Some explanation to the Disney bid! I couldn't figure out why Comcast wanted a somewhat-struggling content provider in their portfolio, but now I see that They (as in MS) were looking for that key 3-12 year-old demographic.

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  12. Merger FAQ from G4 by Blackwulf · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:Merger FAQ from G4 by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Interesting

      However, this G4 FAQ needs to be taken with a grain of salt because it appears to be written by G4 employees whose jobs are just as uncertain as TechTV employee jobs at this point. At a business level, G4 is not buying TechTV... Comcast is buying most TechTV from Vulcan Ventures, with Echostar being fussy and refusing to sell their shares in TechTV, Inc.

      That, and the FAQ really doesn't ammount to anything newsworthy. The listings of shows aren't exactly promises that any of the shows listed will continue or those left out will not, and the fact that the network's "headquarters" will be in L.A. just means that the PHBs will be located there. For example, CNN presently houses their executives and master control operations, but most of their weekday lineup is originating from New York City and Washington D.C. moreso than Altanta at this point. The content people don't always have to be at "headquarters".

      Another thing that the FAQ nicely dodges is whether the new network will be called "TechTV", "G4", or some other name.

  13. What concerns me most by JSDopefish · · Score: 5, Informative

    is that Comcast HATES HATES HATES DirecTV. G4 has never been on DirecTV because of that. Philadelphia Phillies games are never shown on DirecTV (at least not ones with Phillies coverage) because of their hatred of satellite.

    I really hope that it doesn't cause TechTV to disappear off DirecTV. I have about 6 shows with Season passes on my TiVo from TechTV. I'll be seriously pissed.

    In fact, I'm already pissed. I like TechTV just the way it is.

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    1. Re:What concerns me most by Itsik · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Notice what the G4's CEO said "... This merger is a win for G4; a win for TechTV; and a win for our advertising and affiliate partners," I didn't see anything about viewers. In other words I suspect that your worries will turn out to be founded.

  14. This scares me by damniel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does this mean I might lose tech tv on my Directv satellite? This just allows Comcast to come out, and charge enough for the programming that other providers(small cable companies,directv,dish network) cannot afford the programming. As these large companies such as Time Warner, Comcast etc., start buying up more interesting programming such as tech tv, I think we will start to see a homogenizing affect. Worst case, they may find that these channels don't generate enough ratings, to make big ad dollars, so they drop them, after they have been assimilated.

    1. Re:This scares me by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Informative

      No. TechTV has long-term deals with DirecTV, Dish Network, and nearly every cable operator (other than Comccast, interestingly) that would be mighty expensive to break. Any serious changes to TechTV will have to be signed-off by these players or there'd be the risk of a breach of contract lawsuit forming.

      That, and to buy TechTV, and then take it away from its existing distribution structure would be like buying a $300 million dollar toy, playing with it for a day, and then throwing it in the trash. There's not much value in taking TechTV and then making it as weak as G4 is today...

  15. Re:he hosted today? by forand · · Score: 4, Informative

    Did you read the link in the blurb? Oh yeah this is /. The link says that Leo wanted to leave, not that he was getting dumped.

    However his blog doesn't say anything about this as far as I saw in my short viewing so I don't even know if the link in the blurb has it right.

  16. TechTV + G4... should have happened years ago... by gamgee5273 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I remember TechTV in its heyday (when I was laid-off in the summer of 2001). Fairly strong programming, very little repetition... and then I went back to work.

    By time I got to watch a decent stretch of TechTV again, it was December of 2001 and the channel was shot. TSS was repeating upwards of four times a day, that Lockergnome freak was destroying Call for Help and the news department seemed to ship everyone off to CNN.

    Fast forward a little bit to 2002/2003 and Comcast now has G4 and Anime Network. TechTV is trying to get into anime (never figured that one out) to reach a "hipper audience." G4, even in its initial prime, was akin to watching a post-2001 TechTV (how many of you have watched our very own Wil Wheaton hosting the same handful of "Arena" episodes for close to a year?!?).

    Now, I'm no fan of Comcast, but this does one thing: solidifies geekdom in one channel.

    Comcast should:

    1) Bring Wil back; 2) Give Leo a big, fat payraise; 3) Create a proper news department; 4) Send all of the anime over to Anime Network;

    And, most importanly:

    5) Get G4/TechTV (GeekTV?) and Anime Network on DirecTV so I CAN WATCH/TiVO THEM, DAMMIT! :D

    In all, this is probably a good thing...

  17. Re:he hosted today? by dubdays · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It will really be a shame when he's no longer hosting TSS. I remember when he and Kate were the hosts, and seriously, it was absolutly the best show on the air. It's sad, but a lot of on-air geeks really lack any real personality whatsoever. Not Leo. He is funny, interesting, insightful (you know, all the +1 words). He's the reason I began watching the show almost 6 years ago, and his leaving is the reason I'll watch it no longer. Besides, everyone else on that show is annoying as hell!

    He is, in reality, why I'm an IT manager today

    We love ya Leo!!!

  18. That's okay by PsiPsiStar · · Score: 4, Funny

    >(Of course, at this point they've only

    >agreed to buy.)


    At this point, I've onlya agreed to watch.

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  19. My twisted hate-hate relationship w/ Comcast by dnaboy · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I really don't know what to make of this one. In my old place, I had DirecTV, and LOVED it, for several reasons, not the least of which being TechTV. True, it's not the most amazingly technical network in the world, but I really enjoyed shows like FreshGear (where a lot of new toys are previewed, and reviewed), and even the Screen Savers (which delivers computer tips and tricks along with even more web sites to visit in order to make sure my employer gets the least value possible for his employee dollar). Anyway, a year or so ago I moved to a new apartment, facing the wrong direction for my dish. No big deal. I'll just get cable...

    My Bill went from basic programming for about 30something dollars to 70something dollars. Who's my cable company? You guessed it. Comcast.

    I still pay out the cash, though the thing that really irks me is that I don't get the stations I had come to take for granted. TechTV, CNBC world (OK, I'm a dork), and a bunch of other, slightly less important channels.

    I guess I'm glad, as I'll apparently now likely get TechTV back, but I seriously hope this doesn't mean another rate hike (above the 8% from last fall, out of which we got zero new channels, and a new arrangement of channels so that I had to relearn every channel again.

    My Rant is done...I'm going to go watch Dawson's Creek.

  20. Re:Another [probable] blow to objective journalism by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, but TechTV's outgoing owner is Vulcan Ventures, which is a VC firm that's mainly owned by Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen. So, one link to MS out, another in. I don't think this is much of a net change at all from that perspective.

  21. Re:he hosted today? by maxbang · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm with ya, bud. Leo 'n' Kate, then Kate's emigre to that game show (jeez - I can't even remember what it was called before X-play). The current host set is odd, at best. I haven't watched it in over a year because they're just not the same. It was funny as hell when Woz and Mitnick hosted - stuttering, stammering, hamfisting their way through 90 minutes of fun TV time. The most annoying to me is that Kevin Rose dude. While I admire his enthusiasm for, and advocacy of, Linux and open source, he seems to be trying a little hard to be geeky (man, I wish that was true in high school ;) I think he thinks he's 1337 h@x0r or something. One of his "Dark Tips": Kazaa Lite. WTF? I wish I could stick it to the man like that.

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  22. Re:Are either any good? by bhtooefr · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't even have cable, and I've seen TechTV a lot (by watching other people's DirectTV).

    It's pretty good. The Screen Savers is a general technology talk show, and Yoshi makes a bunch of sweet cases (especially Mini-ITX). Call for Help is a good guide if you use something other than Windows and you get bombarded by requests to fix computers because "you're smart with computers". X-Play is a decent game review show. Robot Wars can be very fun (robot carnage is awesome - just watch an episode or two). Future Fighting Machines is good if you're a military nut. They've got all sorts of shows on the making of or the meaning of movies and shows - they recently had a big one on LOTR to coincide with the release of ROTK. They also have some other good shows, but most (including Robot Wars and FFM) are simply rebroadcasts of BBC shows.

  23. Re:Are either any good? by pragma_x · · Score: 3, Informative

    My $0.02. TechTV is pretty decent, with "screensavers" possibly being the closest Slashdot will ever get to being on television. You can grab most of the highlights and show abstracts of the website and save yourself some cash. G4 ("the gamer's network" i guess) on the other hand is tolerable in doses, and are obviously still in the progress of building the brand up. They only run during the core hours of the day (infomercials latenights and early mornings), and re-run content in short intervals (less than a week in some cases) with no remorse. To their credit, they're pioneering a tv genre, so I have hopes that it'll get better in a few years. Merging the two seems unlikely, but combined they may wind up with enough quality programming to fill a whole day of scheduling.

  24. Patrick Norton by jrwillis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    While I hate to see Leo no longer hosting TSS, so long as Patrick Norton is still there we're ok. I think he's one of the only true geeks on TV right now. Rock on Patrick.

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  25. Re:he hosted today? by markhb · · Score: 3, Funny

    Shatner, your agent called, something about a margarine commercial.

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  26. Re:Morgan Webb and Laura Swisher need by maxbang · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yes, yes, and yes! It will be called: Whipped Cream Panties, Linux, and You.

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  27. Re:Leo Laporte by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The better somebody is at being a geek, the worse said person is at appearing on TV. Leo's interruptions are mostly of the nature of keeping the guest on topic and on pace, which is the responsiblity of any TV host. Sometimes, you've just got to cut the guest off because letting them ramble is even worse TV.

  28. Re:he hosted today? by esswedl · · Score: 3, Funny

    jeez - I can't even remember what it was called before X-play

    Extended Play. I really enjoyed the promo that had Adam Sessler punching and dodging in a side-scroller, the camera pulling back to reveal Kate at the joystick of a cabinet.

  29. Here's a source for hard tech info by Isao · · Score: 3, Informative
    There is such a station. It's called the Research Channel.

    It's available free in the U.S. on Dish Network (channel 9400), many cable networks or direct from Ku-band satellite on Galaxy 10R (11.805GHz, Horizontal, 4580ksym/sec).

    Straight from the lab to your living room.

  30. Re:TechTV is for neophytes (-5 troll) by SydShamino · · Score: 3, Insightful

    TechTV has recently covered several issues the night before they are posted to slashdot. (Including the "tech news" part of TSS.)

    If TechTV needs to go, then Slashdot should go too...

    (Besides, we all know that people who follow the advice peddled on Slashdot are equally heading for trouble.)

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  31. Re:he hosted today? by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Informative

    Leo is still hosting, he hosted today

    This is his farewell tour as host of TSS. He'll host tonight, and four episodes next week. (Friday has been a scheduded rerun day for a while now.)

    This actually is of Leo's own doing. He actually doesn't want to host TSS anymore, he'd rather be hosting Call For Help. His new work schedule, which starts the week after next, calls for him to only be at the studio two days a week, during which he'll record five episodes of Call For Help and contribute some segments to TSS. On the remaining three weekdays, he'll work from home preparing research for both his TechTV duties and also for his KFI radio show which he does live based out of a barn-turned-radio-studio on his own property.

    So, this really is the end of a overbooked 7-day-workweek schedule he's been on for about the last six months. He's basically going into a semi-retirement, while also assuring that he'll still be employed even if he's no longer with TechTV.

  32. Re:he hosted today? by scupper · · Score: 3, Informative
    Leo's statements in his blog about "prudent to diversify" and this below from the G4 FAQ seem to imply Leo is bracing for the boot. Notice the absence of "Call For Help" from among the shows G4 has listed will be programmed from TechTV, the only show which Leo will be hosting full time w/ TechTV pending the approval of the Comcast Deal.

    G4 FAQ: Programming http://g4tv.com/techtvmerger/
    Q: What will a typical programming day look like?
    A: The merged network will be the nation's premier 24/7 television network all about video games, technology and the gamer lifestyle. The G4 programming day will showcase many existing G4 and TechTV series such as G4's ICONS; PULSE; JUDGMENT DAY; PLAYERS, and CHEAT! as well as TechTV's ANIME UNLEASHED; X-PLAY; SCREEN SAVERS; FRESH GEAR; and ROBOT WARS.G4 will also premiere new original programming which will be announced at a later date.
  33. Business As Usual by CleverNickName · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I didn't see anything about viewers. In other words I suspect that your worries will turn out to be founded

    When I was at G4, The Viewers were the last thing on management's mind. There were some executives who actually had a great deal of contempt for "those stupid gamers."

    It's like that in most of television, though. The Viewer is just a potential sale for the advertiser. What The Viewer thinks just isn't important to The Company.

    In this age of mega-mergers and vertically integrated companies who control distribution and content, they don't have to give a flying fuck about The Viewer, so they don't.