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NETI@Home to Examine Net's Strengths
UnresolvedExternal writes "Wired is reporting about Georgia Tech researchers who want thousands of computer users to install their program to help them monitor traffic patterns on the Internet. They plan to use the data to strengthen the Net and unblock bottlenecks."
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Has anyone tried to compile this on Mac OS X? What were your results?
"Indicate the presence of a large DDoSing group known as 'Slashdot'. We will be looking further into this matter"
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If it comes with a cool screensaver and can help find extraterrestrial intelligence, I'm in.
Gee, sounds like gator got into academics.
meh
Well taking spam is put at between 30-50% of email usage how about getting rid of that for a start? Of course easier said than done
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Folding@Home is my distributed computing effort of choice.
How is this more worthwhile than that?
and the financial resources to unblock those bottlenecks are raised with the money they make from selling those 'traffic patterns' to anyone who bids...
If you're going to run any of these kinds of distributed clients, then you should run Folding@Home instead. The fruits of this work might just help save yours or a loved one's life someday.
Maybe it can battle SETI@HOME, Kazaa, and Norton Antivirus for all of my CPU cycles, disk bandwidth and network bandwidth. It will not even leave me enough power to compose all my correspondence in notepad.
Don't just give those cycles away! Sell them!
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Arggh Its every geeks worst scheduling nightmare! Do I want the aliens or the faster pr0n. Dang what a scheduling conflict.
Researchers at Georgia Tech are concluding their two-year distributed analysis of network usage, concluding that most bottlenecks were, in fact, caused by NETI@Home traffic.
Internet traffic composition:
49.7% 0
49.7% 1
00.6% Other
Ok Call me crazy, but somehow I see this information, crossing the boundry and making it off the reservation. One clever Hack, is probably all it would take. Better yet I see, the University as a Governmentally Funded Entity, somehow coerced by the Dept. of Homeland Security, into passing over the Data, or The program being Co-opted into some sort of Covert monitoring Utility, with a Cleverly conceled Opt-In, hidden in an Streamlined Update.
Want a good way to spot all those Heavy Bandwidth, Warzer's and P2P Traders? Also how long before the Data gets Mined for some purpose, as well. No matter how, well intentioned, and no matter what they say, about their privacy, settings, it can be Co-opted, if someone wants the information.
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They want to figure out how to make the Internet faster and more reliable, but to do that they need to gather data from tens of thousands of personal computers around the world.
So, they want to make it faster by having people send out and receive more data.
and you could tell who hasnt patched their machines.
The strong do what they can, while the weak suffer what they must.
just looked at their THIS AIN'T SPYWARE, RILLY! page. Well, what else is it but that? Of course it is, just for their claim to be a benevolent purpose, it's "whitehat" spying to be totally fair about it. But, we don't know if any "blackhats" will get the information over to the university, or--well, if any foreign states might have an interest in it and some of the juicer info gets transferred to some other places that might have a different idea on what to do with the information. Could be, anyone who's seen the demographics at most unis would have to agree, and tech has a lot of students that might have loyalties other than what is publically presented here. Just a note, but it's valid.
The high security setting is the one I predicteth gets used the most by people who run it, for obvious reasons.
hmm, probable bottlenecks. Whenever the latest mega worm hits you'll see which routers choke easiest. Massive constant traffic from owned and zombiefied end users home machines, that should be fairly random and even. Pockets/areas where file sharing is still big. And places with a derth of fat pipes obviously.
Interesting project, but I will have to think on it some if I want to run it. Also, maybe I am not seeing it, but it doesn't seem to have any info on how much of your machine it uses, I see the operating system requirements,installation, etc, but not the resources required. Anyone see that? My apologies if I missed it.
One of the defining characteristics of the Net seems to have been its ability to defy planning and design.
Even simply "increasing capacity" without addressing specific bottlenecks is often a waste of time. Look at the heavy investment in fibre-optics, most of which lies unused as new technology squeezes more and more out of existing cables.
Call me a cynic, but such projects sound more like fun for research grants than useful for real life.
My humble opinion of the Net is that it is a largely a self-steering phenomena that feeds on change and technology cycles. Since you can't predict change, and you can't prevent the technology cycles that cause it, it's meaningless to hope to plan this.
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if you're that concerned about spyware, READ THE *SOURCE* and see what it does!
it's not like you're being asked to install a random binary and run it 24/7....
Actually, I would bet that the 0's and 1's are not evenly distributed, considering how much of packet contents are unencrypted text, and that the protocol headers are bound to have bias, as are the assigned IP addresses that are most heavily used, etc...
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For those who wanted to know what the 'Other' might be
IEEE 1164 std_logic
'U' Uninitialized
'X' Unknown
'0' Logic 0 (driven)
'1' Logic 1 (driven)
'Z' High impedance
'W' Weak 1
'L' Logic 0 (read)
'H' Logic 1 (read)
'-' Don't-care
I Have an exam involving this stuff (VHDL) Tomorrow... so I thought some of you might want to know... (But i'm sure most of you just '-' )
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Just from the story summary, this sounds like a distributed attack.
Which is exactly why the phrase RTFA was created.
This project monitors your network performance, not constantly connecting to a single server. This raises privacy issues, but they're gladly doing something about that. There are options as to what you let it send, and the files it sends are stored locally so you can view them.
Why is that a troll? Sheesh.
Anyway, I've got to find a way to spoof results so that the lines closest to me appear to be the bottleneck. That way, there will be more money spent on improving my connection, right?
Be wary of any facts that confirm your opinion.
Where's YETI@HOME? How can we ever hope to find all the lost Yetis?
ahh... here it is:
www.yeti@home.com
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Imagine if instead they were offering a little box that you plug into your wall and then into the internet. It will measure just about everything, from voltage fluctuation to how many watt hours you draw... and it'll report this back to someone who's trying to build an independant quality map of your nation's infrastructure. Is this any better/worse of an idea? Like they said, you can never have to much information.
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That might make it just a bit useless, no?
If all the world's a stage, anyone who says they want better lighting spends far too much time in a dark theatre.
I emailed the NETI admin requesting (suggesting) a Mac OS X version. This is the exchange I had. Apparently his email has been slashdotted by the Mac population.
:-( If I were more geek-inclined I would download and compile the *nix version that you have listed, but I'm not confident enough of my terminal skills to do so (as are probably many non-geeky Mac-users with very powerful machines...). Slashdot.org forums are already asking about an OS X version, so if I could suggest creating and posting a Mac OS X specific installer, it would be very worth your while!
On Apr 27, 2004, at 11:38 AM, George Riley wrote:
David, I've been inundated with MacOS requests! Yep, we'll take a look at it ASAP.
George F. Riley, Assistant Professor
The School of Electrical and Computer Engineering at Georgia Tech
On Tuesday, Apr 27, 2004, at 11:25 US/Eastern, David Bingham wrote:
Hola!
I am willing, interested and able lend CPU cycles to GATech's NETI project, but all I own are a number of Macs. Your software download and installation page states, "This page gives a detailed description (hopefully) of how to install and uninstall NETI@home for your favorite OS", but my favorite OS is not listed.
Thanks,
--David Bingham
You have to install three seperate programs and jump through hoops in order to install this NETI, software which is essentially just voluntary spyware in the first place. Even if someone were so inclined to help out, what makes these people think they'd be willing to go through so much BS for something that really doesn't benefit them at all? You can always tell when techies put out a software package by themselves; it'll technically work and perform it's function quite well, but the user's experience always takes a back seat. Hmm... sounds like a certain OS that will go unnamed.
...an Internet tracking program. Honest! It works! How many viruses are going to pop up after something like this launches proclaiming to be the real thing?
I hate to tell you, but U,X,W et al are virtual simulator states - they only exist when you simulate your VHDL code. Once you synthesize them into hardware, it's either a 1, 0, or indeterminant (in rare when you measure it as it is crossing the threshold). Good luck on your exam ;)
To make laws that man cannot, and will not obey, serves to bring all law into contempt.
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I'm doing research into the traffic patterns of large hairy animals named Bigfoot. I'm calling it YETI@home.
My hypothesis is that Yeti is really CowboyNeal.
If they really want to help end bottlenecks on the net, then make a smaller download!
I am all in favor of a project that attempts to find intelligent life on the Internet.
That's "Mr. Soulless Automaton" to you, Bub.