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DOOM III This Summer
Crusader writes "Activision and id Software have issued a press release announcing that DOOM III will be released this summer. A Linux client has also been in development alongside the requisite Win32 version."
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I loved the original Doom and Doom II. Unfortuantely, people seem to have moved away from the fun of game playing to trying to outdo each other in teh 3D graphics realm. I think the 3D engines are pretty decent, so how about some fun single player game levels. Screw the multiplayer crap.
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"Finally" is what they said about every other game that id made. "This summer" is a loose euphamism for "sometime in 2004, maybe 2005."
Wait and see.
Yeah, not like they did it before. Remember how the Quake3 test release was Linux first, then Mac, and finally Windows? Or perhaps the native Linux Quake2 binaries? Or even the native Linux Quake/QuakeWorld stuff?
Sarcasim aside, I too am glad that id continues to support us Linux gamers, and I plan on paying my $$ as soon as it is available.
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My Unreal Tournament 2004 came with the Linux client. Didn't yours?
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Given the history of gaming on mac, and that no mac support was specifically promised, this seems to me like a kind of odd statement.
"I ordered my PowerMac over the weekend. I'm going to be ready for Doom 3. "
Don't celebrate yet. It's going to have to top many online games out there to be a real competitor. Look at UT2004, there is 10 modes of play for example. Single player doesn't really sell... though in this case, this game has been hyped beyond all hell.
but unfortunately it doesn't look like a strong business case can be made for it
Time for us Linux fans to put our money where our mouths are. You want to see widespread use of Linux on the desktop? Buy Doom3. I'm serious - if there were significant sales on Linux it might persuade other software companies to start coming out with stuff for Linux too.
You have an excellent point. I know quite a few people who whole-heartedly support linux, but then fail to use it for gaming when they can. I admit, even I am guilty. I run WinXP so I can play games, and I don't own any that work for linux.
And that's just the trick, it isn't going to become an option unless they see a significant reason to bother. After all, if they put the money and work into developing it for linux, and the market share is too small, they won't bother in the future.
So, support Doom3 for Linux if you want to see more games for your beloved OSS.
Did I read that blurb correctly? Quite frankly I don't play single-player games anymore, I find them boring. The future of gaming is all about broadband internet connections that enable large or even massive multiplayer games going on. I can't believe Id Software is ignoring networked gaming support on the PC ... but supporting it on the Xbox?!? The arguments given were pretty lame (boiling down to: the Xbox is about people playing together while PC gaming is about ... people locked in a room all by themselves??!?? ... guess they've never heard of LAN parties). Quite frankly I'm stunned.
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Anyone who actively recommends usage of any *planet or GameSpy program, site or other form of crap should be stabbed in the face with a blunt spoon. I mean, what kind of a joke is Fileplanet anyways? "Pay good money to look at and play... Demos, trailers and assorted unfunny junk. Woot!" I actually wanted to download a few demos from a game developer a few weeks ago, but they were only hosted on Fileplanet. Lovely. I then voted with my wallet helped myself on some 700mb ISO "demos" using bittorrent. Fuck them.
I'm not even going to start on GameSpy on the unintelligent ooze that makes up the *planet staff. IGN was pretty horrible too in the past, but I genuinely forgot why so it couldn't have been that big a deal...
"secret underground base and then the experiment went horribly wrong etc... so not just the monsters - the entire story line!"
Wow, you mean just like the FIRST DOOM?
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I'm just glad that a company (iD) actually spends time on a game making a QUALITY release. I have gotten tired of games that rush to make a release date, and when you purchase the game, it lacks in so many features and you get a billion patches in the first week. I'd much rather wait for a game for a long time and get a single quality release (not to mention linux client alongside the win32 one), and be able to play a quality game out of the box.
Well, I hope so at least, we'll see what this game looks like when it comes out. oh and, to iD, I don't mind the wait, as long as the game is GOOD!
All jokes aside when did iD become the butt of jokes for promising *anything*. They have never promised any release date aside from 'when it's done'. Yeah D3 has been in development a while but not *that* long. From what I'm reading gamers better get used to long development cycles for cutting edge games. The content for this stuff is getting ever more difficult and time consuming to create - especially for smaller shops...ala iD.
Oh god yerh,
I meen who the hell wouldn't want to bring out a bug filled inferor game sequal screwing fans out of as much cash as posible then laughing as the price of the game falls to below wholesale in the first two months.
thank goodness some game companys still are willing to put in the hard yards and work out problems with games before announing relase dates to sucker punch fans out of money.
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see, hears the problem,
you guys will need to buy more then just doom3,
you can splure on one game then bitch a year later when no one is buying other games.
The OS gameing comunity needs to keep buying linux games, the sales need to stay up there.
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id is well known for being very accurate on release dates, mainly because they don't give them. I believe they coined "When Its Done", but in any case, every time they have given a release date, they have made it. It'll be out this summer.
It wasn't a joke, it was fact =P
Quake III by itself was awful, the multiplayer was well defined but it was more of the same. Unreal Tournament did a much better job with gameplay
But look at all the Q3 licensed games that came out.
Heavy Metal F.A.K.K.2
Return to Castle Wolfenstein
Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory
Jedi Academy
Alice
Star Trek: Elite Force
Medal of Honor Allied Assault
Team Fortress II
James Bond 007: The World is not Enough
Soldier of Fortune II: Double Helix
Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast.
And I'm sure I've missed a few...
At $250,000 a license, they made a few bucks in just licensing
I've heard that the new Doom III license will be going for $1,000,000
id Software's Technology Licensing Program
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Ok, so let's suppose that all the Linux gamers go out and buy Doom 3. It looks to me like the Win32 client and Linux client will be packaged together. How is ID going to know that we are buying Doom 3 for the Linux version and not just buying it to play on Windows? Do you really think that if game sales are high Id is going to be thinking, "Wow, it's a good thing we released the Linux client in with this. It's really boosted our sales." Even if strong Linux user sales do somehow make Doom 3 a bigger seller, I doubt it'll be perceived that way.
playing the game for the first (or X times) with someone with the computer on hardest is aways toons of fun. That was something I missed of the doom1/2 days.
It just seams that multi-play has forgoten that not all multiplay is PvP. Try playing NWN or some game in co-opt mode and you will be disapointed in it as well.
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From what I have read, Trent was supposedly involved in the design of the sound engine and most of the sampling that is part of the game (he was a CE or EE student at some point in the past). When you get the game, you will know if it was Trent or not.
You know what sucked though? Only a few of those games, based on the quake 3 engine, were ever made to run on linux despite the fact that the engine was. Damn game companies.
What is so good about having two procs waiting on the GPU, rather than one?
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You have an excellent point. I know quite a few people who whole-heartedly support linux, but then fail to use it for gaming when they can. I admit, even I am guilty. I run WinXP so I can play games, and I don't own any that work for linux.
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I'm guilty of this. I do everything at home on linux except game. I would love to get doom3 on linux except my linux pc won't be able to handle it. Not being made of money I can't afford two top end gaming rigs/vid cards. If it was only a matter of playing doom3 etc... I'd switch, but of the games I play, such a small percentage run on linux that it's not cost effective.
I guess it's a downside to linux that it can run so effectively on hand-me-down hardware. If it was winxp I wouldn't be able to use a p133 or an old abit bp6
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I know I'm in the minority, but frankly I think reznor's quake soundtrack work to date has been horribly uninspired. The best thing you can say about it is that it more or less fits the mood of the game. I'd far rather see someone else like A Perfect Circle go at it. I see using Reznor again as being stuck in a rut.
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Also, that FX-5700 will run faster in Linux than Windows. In general, NVIDIA's hardware runs about 10% faster in Linux than in windows, where there are equivelent setups: eg quake3, ut2003 w/opengl, etc on the same hardware. The same cannot be said for ATI. It has held true for a while, and Linux is much smoother with NVIDIA (has been on all the hardware I have personally tested, heck I can play quake3 if I turn some things down while compiling large things like KDE.)
I think think that Trent's ambient work was just what Quake needed. It was by far my favorite work by him. I didn't think it sounded like his normal work, so I don't know what you mean about a rut.
That being said, I never would have thought he could do a good soundtrack from hearing his previous work.
Why would you say Perfect Circle? The last thing Doom 3 needs is a rock music sound track. I think an ambient soundtrack by Trent would probably be good. (but I'm not a fan of the guy or NIN)
The best thing one can say about *any* soundtrack is that it fits the mood of the game/movie/whatever. That's the purpose of the soundtrack, not to wow people with your inspiration. If it does that too, then great, but first and formost it should fit and enhance the mood of the work.
There are other artists that I'd like to see doing a soundtrack for Doom (Skinny Puppy, Controlled Bleeding, etc), but if Trent's soundtrack to Doom3 (If he is still making it) is as good as the Quake soundtrack, I'll be happy. Hopefully there will be some dynamic music, also. Changing for combat, etc.
On the slightly off-topic note: while I'm even less of a fan of Marilyn Manson, I though his work on the Resident Evil (movie) soundtrack was fantastic. He's another artist I don't normally like that impressed me. He might also be able to do a good Doom3 soundtrack.
To be fair, how else would you stop the player from swimming out into the ocean? An invisible wall that stops them? Made more sense that you're more "detectable by their radar" on the open sea, and so it's easy for them to send a chopper to kill your ass.
What a weird criticism. You're annoyed that you can't swim forever into a completely blank sea?
I disagree, I think it's some of the coolest "music" I've ever heard. It sets a wonderful, creepy, scary atmosphere that I just love. I don't want to hear guitars and drums, I want to hear scary sounds and pulsing heartbeats... I don't want it to be anything resembling mainstream music. I hated the Quake2 soundtrack, for instance.
I'm curious if the 'Quake3 Linux Sales' is derived from the number of users who are playing games using Linux, or the number of users who went out and bought a specilised Linux CD.
I bought a windows CD version, but I play my games purely under linux... bet there's quite a few like me.
...I like being able to see things now, not have them shrouded in darkness for fright effect. Wracks my nerves more than anything.
Isn't that the whole point of DOOM3? Carmack once said that it's mostly a moody horror game.
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I don't understand your logic, how is making co-op play any less secure than the player vs player mode?
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Yes, Skinny Puppy on the Doom3 soundtrack! oGre could do the voices for the monsters. =)
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