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THX-1138 Finally Coming to DVD

OMM0000 writes "George Lucas' first film, THX 1138 is finally coming to DVD. They've also launched a new site, as USA Today reports. As webmaster of a certain THX-1138 fan site (which will remain nameless to avoid slashdotting), this is excellent news. For all of you lamenting the Star Wars prequels, be sure to see where Lucas' roots in filmmaking are."

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  1. Yay... by darth_MALL · · Score: 5, Funny

    In this version Greedo shoots first.

    1. Re:Yay... by operagost · · Score: 2, Funny

      Then Lucas comes out with THX-1135, THX-1136, and THX-1137. And they really suck.

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  2. As long as it's not by noewun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    THX 1138: The Special Expanded Director's Cut, with better special effects and a new ending I will be very happy.

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    1. Re:As long as it's not by cetan · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Did you see the trailer?

      There's a TON of new CG.

      I'm hoping he'll redeem himself by releasing the original student film with the Duval one.

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    2. Re:As long as it's not by E_elven · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well fuck you, you just spoiled the movie for about 600,000 people. I mean, who could have guessed THAT's what's going to happen in the end. Mark your spoilers, earth-dweller!

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    3. Re:As long as it's not by GMFTatsujin · · Score: 2, Funny

      I understand there have been some minor revisions. For example, in this version THX 1135 shoots first.

    4. Re:As long as it's not by mm0mm · · Score: 4, Interesting
      as much as many people refer to this film as "the most boring film from Lucas," I find more substance and underlying themes in this film than his later films. Lucas made original THX at (I believe) school, and prior to that, he made a 16mm non-sync B&W film with a similar theme for his film assignment. this one is the origin of THX. I saw both preceding films. they both have very pessimistic, paranoid story lines.

      what I thought from viewing the THX trilogy was that Lucas' sound design skill is extraordinary, and that he did actually created futuristic atmosphere successfully without relying heavily on visual/special effects. when there is no money, people find creative ways to achieve goals, and Lucas did so very well.

      quite a few film schoolers/professionals I know refer to THX as Lucas' best film. IMO it is not an overstatement.

    5. Re:As long as it's not by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's an allegory

      A big lizard that lives in the everglades?

    6. Re:As long as it's not by Viceice · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So the way to make Star Wars better is to cut his budget?

      And I'm only 1/2 kidding. I personally enjoy cheap films with a good story, then an expensive all CG and SFX animation 'wolf' in live action 'sheeps' clothing.

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    7. Re:As long as it's not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      No no, that's a peccadillo. Allegories are what causes you to sneeze and get all itchy.

    8. Re:As long as it's not by E_elven · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It was a satirical stab. Since you have apparently seen the movie, this should not have been a surprise to you. Gah.

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    9. Re:As long as it's not by lidocaineus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You must be one of those folks that that said at the end of "Titanic", "TOLD YOU IT WOULD SINK! What a waste of time."

      Granted, Titanic could be considered a waste of time (I kind of lean towards that end at least), but not for that reason. Congratulations, you're the reason why most movies these days are boring, mindless, dis-engaging trash. Extending your brain power is just a little *too* taxing, and so Hollywood seeks your $$ by pumping out wonderful movies such as "Baby Geniuses"

  3. Boring ass film by penginkun · · Score: 3, Informative

    Saw it once ages ago, had to fight to stay awake.

    Now I can FINALLY get a film to help me during my bouts of insomnia! Huzzah!

  4. I took that bit as a personal challenge by GillBates0 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Thanks to Google :here you go.

    Sorry...but the way it was worded, I took it as a personal challenge.

    Maybe you shouldn't have posted this as OMM0000 if you really wanted to prevent a Slashdotting.

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    1. Re:I took that bit as a personal challenge by mrtroy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Or you could have been nice to both us and him, and posted a direct link to the full script. It is one of the larger files on the server i believe.
      Here is the script
      (just to be helpful)

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  5. You're kidding, right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Finally? This is one of the most boring movies I've ever seen. I only watched the whole thing all the way through because it was made by the guy that created Star Wars. Probably the same reason people watched Episodes I and II.

    1. Re:You're kidding, right by repetty · · Score: 2, Funny

      Next time rent Porkys. You'll like it more.

      --Richard

  6. Lucas' best work? by zoobaby · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While a bit slow moving, THX-1138 does actually explore something interesting. It is, with the exception of Empire, Lucas' best film. All films since have all slowly (Or not so slowly) deteriorated into the mess we now call the Star Wars prequels.

    1. Re:Lucas' best work? by ydnar · · Score: 5, Informative

      Probably because Lucas didn't direct Empire

  7. Film School by normal_guy · · Score: 3, Funny

    This was made before he realized that you can't make a living as a cult filmmaker.

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    1. Re:Film School by IWorkForMorons · · Score: 4, Funny

      Shhhhh...don't let Sam Raimi hear that. He'll be heartbroken!

  8. Student short version included? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I hope this has Lucas' student short of THX (which was then remade into a feature length). I really preferred it honestly, and I haven't been able to find it in any consumer-oriented format previously.

    Considering how much dead space the feature length had, 15 minutes was a nice compression that still managed to capture the atmosphere of a dystopian future.

    1. Re:Student short version included? by djaj · · Score: 4, Informative

      The hard-to-navigate movie site states that the short will be on the second disc of the DVD set.

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    2. Re:Student short version included? by adenied · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Actually you can find it on the DVD called Short 10 - Chaos:

      http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004Z4V 8/

      I have it, but have to admit that I think I've only watched the THX-1138 short. But that's why I got it.

  9. I Love THX1138 by Trolling4Dollars · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's one of those 70s dytopian scifi films with that really weird clinical view of the terrible future. However, I have a little story about actually watching it. I admit it. I'm one of those people that likes long and slow movies that require lots of concentration. I only know a few people like me. When I decided to rent this one, I was with my girlfriend and a couple of her friends (male and female). There were about eight of us and we popped the tape in on a Friday night at about 7:30PM. As I was watching it, I was engrossed in the film. I hadn't noticed until I heard some snoring that my girlfriend had fallen asleep! Going beyond that I looked around the room and realized I was the ONLY person awake. I have to say, that's when I realized that I have a very different perspective on moveis from most people. Since then, I'm less likely to ask people to watch something I'm interested in because it's likely going to bore them. So... it makes me feel good to know I'm not completely alone in my love for THX1138.

    1. Re:I Love THX1138 by kalidasa · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Just in case this *isn't* a troll - may I recommend Tarkovsky's *Solaris*? Long, deliberate, cerebral, literate, lingers over shots, character and dialogue driven (i.e., not much in the way of SFX to speak of).

  10. THX 1138 is no Star Wars by gorsh · · Score: 3, Informative

    While it's a very interesting film from an experimental point of view, THX 1138 is not something that's likely to appeal to too many Star Wars fans, apart from the George Lucas connection. It's set in a dystopian future where everything is run by machines, and there is very little interpersonal dialogue or human interaction. Like I said, it's interesting from an experimental point of view to see how Lucas uses film to tell a story in a very non-conventional way, but it's clearly not aimed at mass audiences.

    If you want to watch an early George Lucas film, most people will be better off with "American Graffiti", which got a pretty good DVD release a few years back, and is a very entertaining film.

    1. Re:THX 1138 is no Star Wars by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's set in a dystopian future where everything is run by machines, and there is very little interpersonal dialogue or human interaction.

      So it's kind of like the Star Wars prequel trilogy, excape that it takes place in the future rather than long ago?

  11. Wow... by Vellmont · · Score: 5, Informative
    I really thought it might never happen. It's a somewhat obscure film, but I think it's a great one.
    For those of you who haven't seen it, it's a totalitarian society in which:

    A drug violation means being under-medicated.

    Most identity is removed, people don't have names, only prefix-suffix designations.

    Sex is illegal

    You confess your sins in booths to a recording of a Jesus-like picture of Ohm

    It's weirer than can be described.

    It's a definite must see for sci-fi fans.

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  12. Re:So what's your favorite retro sci-fi movie? by Monsieur+Canard · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Silent Running, with Bruce Dern, Hughey, Dewey, and Louis.

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  13. Nothing to get excited about by Bradee-oh! · · Score: 4, Funny

    Calm down everyone, it's his director's cut, not the original. Another classic ruined...

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  14. Will it be THX certified by BigFire · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's the important question.

  15. Who cares? by Rolo+Tomasi · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's still no DVD version in sight of one of the greatest movies ever made. Yep, I'm talking about Yellowbeard. Why? Why???? *shakes fist*

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  16. Lucas' roots: Don't forget American Graffiti by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When you talk about George Lucas, don't forget "American Graffiti." Not only does it document his roots as a filmmaker, it documents his personal roots, as it is semi auto-biographical.

    Sure THX1138 is good, but don't forget the Lucas masterpiece: AMERICAN GRAFFITI.

  17. You Might Like This by Spiffae · · Score: 2, Informative

    There's some hidden stuff on that page, I found a trailer in pretty decent resolution.

    Link-city

  18. Re:Bad film by MrBlackBand · · Score: 4, Interesting
    THX-1138 is a artsy 2001-ish film based on a plot vaguely along the lines of "Logan's Run."

    So it's a bad film how?

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  19. Re:Am I the only one.. by MrBlackBand · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Am I the only one that wondered why [THX] went to all that trouble just to starve to death on the surface?

    Freedom?

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  20. Some facts by MikeHunt69 · · Score: 5, Informative

    # THX 1138 was based on a student film Lucas made while attending USC.
    # The original title was Electronic Labyrinth: THX 1138 4EB
    # The stars of the film were Robert Duvall as THX 1138 (yes it's a name!), Donald Pleasence as SEN 5241, and Maggie McOmie as LUH 3417
    # THX 1138 was not only ahead of its time in sound effects, but also in the themes which it portrayes, such as the loss of individuals for the good of the group, the self-corruption of the human spirit, racism in science fiction, and yes, even channel-surfing
    # The film was produced by American Zoetrope Studios, then co-owned by Lucas and Francis Ford Coppola
    # The extras used in the film came from a drug rehabilitation center called Delancey Street Foundation. The only way to enter Delancey Street was to have your head shaved. (Thanks to donasso@pacbell.net)
    # When George Lucas lived in the San Francisco Bay area, where the tunnel scenes in THX were filmed, one of his phone numbers was 849-1138, or as a mnemonic, THX-1138. (Thanks to nbeckett@gte.net)
    # The "shell dwellers" in THX served as the basis for the Jawas in Star Wars.
    # The sound made by the staves which the robots use to condition prisoners are remarkably similar to the lightsaber sound effect.
    # Star Wars was, at one point, going to be a prequel to THX, with the character who would become Luke Skywalker conceived as a young THX.
    # The licence plate number on Milner's deuce coupe in American Graffiti was THX 138.
    # In Star Wars, Luke says "Prisoner transfer from cell block 1138."
    # During the car chase scene, someone can be heard over the intercom saying "I think I ran over a Wookiee back there on the expressway." As any good Star Wars fan can tell you, Chewbacca is a Wookiee.
    # In The Empire Strikes Back, General Rieekan says, "Send Rogues ten and eleven to station three-eight."
    # Not from a Lucas movie, but in The Lawnmower Man, the experimental chimp is named Rosco 1138.
    # This is unconfirmed (I'll confirm it as soon as I can get to the theatre again!) but a reliable source told me that the battle droid who loses it's head in The Phantom Menace has the number "1138" on its back.

    shamelessly stolen from this site (it's geocities, so go easy)

    1. Re:Some facts by pomakis · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And don't forget that George Lucas was one of the people behind the THX series of sound and video specifications. I'm not sure what THX is supposed to stand for in this context, but I'm pretty sure that THX 1138 was the origin of the acronym.

    2. Re:Some facts by darth_MALL · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That last one is true. You can also catch it as the safe combination, punched in by Matt Damon, in Oceans 11 (the new one).It pops up in movies almost as much as the Wilhelm scream.

    3. Re:Some facts by localman · · Score: 2, Informative

      A friend and I went to one of the first ever screenings of the back-to-back Star Wars trilogy that was used to open a new ten theater complex in Braintree Massachusetts in the early 90's. This was years before the terrible "Special Editions" and before the rehyping of the sequels. The crowd was actually quite cool, though a few were dressed up. It was truly great to see the original films in all their glory.

      The theaters were all THX, which was still a big deal at the time, and they had a guy from Lucasfilm there telling us about the impressive sound systems. He claimed that one of the reasons it was called THX sound was because it was invented by Thomas Holman... it was dubbed "Thomas Holman's Experiment" when they were developing it, and Lucas really liked that it lined up with the "THX" from his first feature his movie.

      Anyways, a bit of trivia.

      Cheers.

  21. One of my top 10 faves by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 4, Interesting
    This is one of my most fave films, and I will be collecting the DVD as soon as I can get the scratch together.

    Frankly, I thought the pacing was fine. I like films that are not typical slapdash hollywood speed flicks. I prefer films that are slower and more elegant. I am convinced that THX1138 is one of Lucas's best films.

    People who whinge about the pacing are just typical speed junkies - everything has to match their hamster sized attention spans and monkey brained prurience - very similar to the sadistic crap THX watches on TV in the movie.

    I see THX1138 as prophetic: a puritanical (NO SEX!!!) consumerist capitalist totalitarian technological nightmare - all the tendencies we see about us today, only amplified in the worst possible way. And the surface of the earth? A beautiful wasteland.

    THX1138 is magnificent. My only complaint is the audio is kind of noisy, and the voices weren't mixed well, and it all sounds kind of "canned". Murch is normally a genius, but this was not his best effort. My guess is the budget didn't permit anything better.

    RS

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  22. Not again! by bunco · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not knowing what THX-1138 was, first glance of the article title resulted in the reply: "Sonofa! I have to upgrade my home theater for *another* audio format!?"

  23. A Boy and His Dog by engwar · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Not sure that this qualifies as retro but it's one of my favorite cult sci-fi films.

    It stars a young Don Johnson

    This from IMDB...
    A post-apocalyptic tale based on a novella by Harlan Ellison. A boy communicates telepathically with his dog as they scavenge for food and sex..

  24. Re:Hi. I am an uneducated... by Dizzle · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Umm, I may be new, but I feel the need to correct this. If you are into a genre, does that necessarily mean you have to like everything from that category? I like watching dramas. That would make me into dramas, however, I don't like every drama. Perhaps one of the dramas was even one of the most boring movies I've ever seen!

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  25. Re:yeah by Vinnie_333 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Pretty dark, Orwellian film. Its VERY different from the SW films. You can see Lucas a young serious film maker with a dire outlook of the future in this film. The reviews of this movie are all over the place; some see it as an undestated masterpiece, others view it as boring pretentious crap. IMO, it was ok, but not great. Here the reviews listed on the IMDB.

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  26. Re:Movie perhaps good, Web site definately sucks by marcus · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sucks real hard.

    Not only that, but if you spin up the flash plugin, all you get is a set of links that then cause more flash loads.

    In summary, a very lame site. I aborted after clicking the first link and seeing the "Transferring data..." status line.

    I've seen the movie(in theater no less). I liked it, but I'm not going to torture myself trying to find my way through a website about it.

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  27. Actually by WTFmonkey · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I think the movie is more about you.
    That's the problem with yesterday's generation. You are so frightened of technology and changing ideas that you attack new ideas with Luddite fervor, banging on the machinery of modern life with oak clubs.

    THX1138 is totally about YOU, huddling in your cave, doing manual labor that WE have designed machines to do for us. You have refused to learn the lessons that the industrial revolution should have tought you, with redundant repetitivity. You have no concept of what the word "progress" means, and you have yet to realize that true education does not (and should not) take place in schools, but in the home, on the playground, and in the burning desire to better yourself and your progeny (not everyone has that last one, by the way).

    The parallels between THX1138 and today are mildly interesting, but hardly prescient. It's easy to look 30 years into the future. Lao Tsu wrote more insightful warnings thousands of years ago. HG Wells did a better job of it over a hundred years ago.

    You've convinced nobody.

  28. Re:Star Warts THX-1138 by CodeMonkey4Hire · · Score: 3, Funny

    I don't even have the old Star Warts let alone the new one.

    I'm sure that there's some kind of cream you can get from your doctor for that.

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  29. THX-1138's original concepts by Animats · · Score: 4, Interesting
    THX-1138 has some great original concepts.

    It introduced the concept of modern phone tech support. Whenever someone has a problem, they open their medicine cabinet and look into a lens, and a concerned voice says "what's wrong?". Later, you see the call center, where someone listens to the complaints and pushes a button to send out the appropriate canned response.

    The chase scene's ending (this is a spoiler) is unique. The chase ends because the people chasing the escaped guy have reached their budget limit and chasing him is no longer cost-effective. So they let him go.

    Lucas went on to do some more commercially successful work later, but THX-1138 represents his most original thinking.

  30. Well worth watching by sterno · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's worth seeing if for no other reason than to point out the dramatic difference between Lucas then and Lucas now. THX 1138 is a very minimalist movie. Little use of color, very simple sets, and a depressing but interesting premise. Compare this to say, Episode 1, where it's so overdone with special effects and it's all candy coated.

    The other thing to note is the depth of the characters in THX 1138 versus the newest SW movies. Everybody in SW is so seemingly detached, from everything, so little emotion. In THX 1138, it's all about letting the emotion come out of that cold rigorously controlled world.

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  31. More occurrences by tiltowait · · Score: 2, Informative

    are detailed here...

  32. In the sequel.... by simetra · · Score: 2, Funny

    They add Muppets, and it all goes to hell.

    Sorry for the spoiler.

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  33. Stop teasing us, Lucas! by HedonismBot · · Score: 2, Funny

    When is your true masterpiece going to be released?

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