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Is This The Big One?
Quivering Coward writes "There has been a marked increase in seismic activity in
southern California in the past several days," pointing to this map from Caltech Earthquake
Net, including a 5.2 and 3.6 this morning (2004/06/15).
"Could this be the big one? Is 'the big one' ever going to happen?
NASA is
doing their part to predict the future of Earthquakes."
Run go to another state. Just RUN. That is all Thank You.
That's from the Caltech quake map link. heehee.
/. starts worrying about the end of the world? Get real.
Anyway. A couple of small quakes and
The latest Slashdot meme.
Maybe. Yes.
NASA is "predicting" the earthquakes
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We simply cannot allow this to happen. Should the ground open up, then the land of the molemen, warlocks, and trolls will release their soldiers! We must defend ourselves!
...Later...
Therefore, I am introducing the MWTDA (Molemen, Warlock, and Troll Defense Act). All citizens are to be in posession of:
* Either a large water gun or a hose
* Trashbags
Military combat units are also under orders to be in posession of the forementioned weaponry.
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[Homer] You're right. I'll deal with those murderous trolls.
[Bart] Huh?
[Homer] I mean - I'll deal with those murderous trolls.
[Homer] (Being chased) Marge! Lisa! Now!
* Marge and Lisa open fire on the jockeys with a watergun and hose - incapacitating them.
[Homer] Bart - Go get me a trashbag.
Frink: Nice try floyd, but you were designed for scrubbing, and scrubbing is what you shall do.
We just need to blow up a small tactical nuke deep within the fault line and we can save the west coast. Trust me I saw it in a movie once. It worked like a charm.
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...but a russion scientist actually predicted this would happen.
-- Contradictions only exist in thought - not in reality.
I read a really cool sci-fi story once where there was a big earthquake coming, everybody believed it and moved east of the line (into Nevada) and waited.
The big day came, the earthquake happened, and
Maybe those of us in Chicago ought to have life rafts, too (grin).
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Could this be the big one? Is 'the big one' ever going to happen?
.1 some time between March 26, 2005 and March 28, 20005. So yea I am going to be correct but is that useful... sure if your building something but as to taking a vacation to miss an earthquake well I suggest moving.
Look earthquakes can and do happen. But as to the 'Big One' idea well I hate to be the one to point this out but the reason why that area is above sea level is because it floats so no earthquake can change that fact or sink it. As to moving out in the ocean yea it's going to happen but You me, our kids, our grand kids and our great great great great grand kids are going to be dead before that strip of land moves one mile from where it stand. And it's going to be a LONG time before 'the big one' that takes the last part of California out into the ocean.
As to these earth quakes prediction a large earthquake well if you keep saying it's going to happen your going to be correct once and wrong 1000's of times. I think we are going to see a 6.8 +/-
Think of what this would do to the Continental US as we know it. Alas, no more would there be 10-10 numbers that call California, no white meat chicken at the Los Angeles Taco Bell, and higher prices prevailing on all laundry machines at the San Fransisco Sears!
Shhh...my wife thought it was me.
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..Most buildings in california are not earthquake proof.
/. proof. When will the next effect hit? ... SOON!
Also most web servers in California are not
May the Maths Be with you!
too much crap coming from Hollywood these days...
I mean, come on, people, are we expecting The Big One to cause the entire state of California to break away at its borders, and we start floating around the Pacific Ocean in some sort of bad remake of Space:1999, with Arnold Schwarzenneger in charge of Earth Base California or something?
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Many researchers believe the next major earthquake will be in northern California, not southern California. One reason is that the San Andreas fault 'creeps' in the south, slowly releasing energy (so the theory goes). In the north, the San Andreas is locked and last moved in 1906, when it released all its energy at once, devastating San Francisco.
It's simple: I demand prosecution for torture.
...How the bleep did this get by the editors. All this is is links to a couple of generic sites on earthquakes and some vague and unsubstantiated assertion about increasing frequency.
The first link points to a recent earthquake map that has been available for ages. It's on my bookmarks to look at when there is an interesting event.
The other is an article on NASA earthquake research.
Nothing in either points to an increase in frequency and indeed typing "earthquake" and "increase" into Google news turns up no interesting articles.
I guess those top-secret black government agencies have done a great job of keeping this monumental (non) story out of the news.
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What about the New Madrid fault? It's overdue for a 7+ magnitude earthquake, and it's in the middle of America.
Umm ... .it floats on magma .. not on the ocean.
In fact, the earthquake patterns on the map show that today is a pretty ho-hum day.
Nothing to see here. Move along.
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So if California floats... like wood. And wood burns... like a witch... it's a witch!
Burn it! Burn it! Burn it! Burn! Burn!...
Let's go Hurricanes!!! 2006 Stanley Cup Champions!!!
I've an idea to keep you all occupied:
Learn to swim
Karma: It's not just a good idea. It's the law.
I'll see you down in Arizona Bay.
If you keep making predictions, eventually one of them will come true.
Strange because we just had a 3.4 in the bootheel of MO 2 nights ago.
The phone is ringing, I cannot linger, watch out butt here comes my finger.
What?
I'm sorry, but since when is a tiny 5.2 earthquake followed by an aftershock at the same location even notable?
5.2's are nothing in Southern California, and you can see a map that looks exactly like that maybe once every month or two.
I imagine that what probably threw people off is the extra earthquake that was originally reported by the USGS. That one was supposed to be centered near Lancaster, or some such, but it wasn't long before they took back the claim on grounds of instrument error.
Those "earthquakes" are actually just the collective sobbing and shaking of the Los Angeles Lakers fans.
Get off my lawn.
There was a small earthquake near New Madrid, MO just yesterday. It was only 3.7 (I think), but it still serves as a reminder that its there and active. Interesting that there was a small quake there while all these quakes have been occuring on the West Coast.
Recent US Earthquake Activity
There's a trigger there, see. Their server si co-linked to several underground sets of renewable explosives and a gargantuan rocket turbine buried in the moon, the combination of which allows Quake Control to within a few square miles.
Oh, come ON. NONE of you have ever wondered why the moon only shows us one face? What're the odds?
Not yet available for Q3.
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March 28, 20005
Looks like I have plenty of time to prepare...
"You cannot find out which view is the right one by science in the ordinary sense." - C.S. Lewis on Intelligent Design
1) A cross-section of the fault slants like this, as seen facing North:
If that fault served as a major support for that edge of the tectonic plate, and during a quake the western plate slides further west, then it will also likely slide down the slope of the fault.2) The fault slants like this:
If the quake results in the plate bearing California to move inland, then it will be subsumed by at the faultline.If you don't believe that faultlines can cause land to rise or fall in elevation, then I guess you also don't believe in these "mountain" things that people keep talking about.
Dewey, what part of this looks like authorities should be involved?
Hey, if Silicon Valley happens to get toasted, y'all are invited to the Boulder/Denver area. Lots of space to grow and far more stable tectonics. We've got a large number of unemployed tech workers leading to a great pool to hire from. All you folks used to biking around Cali would love it here. Oh yeah, and by 2007 we should have a BART-style rail system (we already have a great bus network).
I hear Austin might actually have a better labor pool and cheaper land, but seriously, it's HOT and not alot of outdoor activities for the geek types.
It is more productive to voice thoughtful opinions (reply) than to judge (moderate) others.
That 5.2 was my first earthquake, and it wasn't much. Building kind of shook a bit. Everyone went on with work like nothing. Some people didn't even notice.
And that is also wrong.
You forgot the real scenario:
California | or / or \ Rest of US...doesn't matter
It's a strike slip fault...California is moving north relative to the rest of the continent at a rate of a cm or two per year, so give it a while (millions and millions of years) and California will border Alaska.
Of course that's a massivly simplified view, but it adequately descibes the situation.
There is absolutely no danger of California ever sinking into the Pacific (sadly), the best we can hope for is global warming melting the icecaps and raising sea level...that would cover most of CA's population with water.
If God had had a computer it would have taken him 7 months to create the earth...if he even bothered to do it at all.
is on this page.
Maybe if you left coast people unrolled some big rolls of duct tape from the coast up to the mountains you could hold it together and avert the worst of the disaster. If you have some extra, cover over the primary fault lines really well as well ....
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...'big one' can I suggest posting on a seismologist's forum? /. is populated by geeks who aren't really expert in this field and the only quake they're likely to know about is the one they use to benchmark their graphics cards.
Doesn't it make you feel good to know that our freedoms are protected by politicans, lawyers and journalists.
Why is it that earthquakes are refered to as temblors and not tremblers? I mean really! The earth TREMBLES during a TEMBLOR!?
I'm tembling with fear over the answers or moderation this post may get.
Yes, its really sad that the 6th largest economy in the world will not fall into the ocean in a cataclysmic earthquake... I hope you weren't planning on using it.
2. The California plate is moving north, the San Andreas being a strike-slip fault rather than a nascent rift valley. Its evenutal fate is to move to Alaska rather than head out into the Pacific.
3. And what qualified you to make earthquake predictions anyway? You don't seem to know much about the geology around here.
And the brethren went away edified.
Be sure to put on your foil hat, as Jim Berkland is a frequent coast to coast guest
I said it floats I did not say it floats on the ocean. Thanks for playing but ya lost that reading comprehension test.
Now we can say it floats, it floats on magma or the fact that the weight of the ocean + the weight of the rock under it float's on magma in such a fastion that the less dence land floating on magma is in a state of balance.
PS: I am just messing with ya. I should have been more clear.
It is amazing the arrogance of West Coasters. Here in the midwest we have a big tornado on a fairly regular basis, and it earns 30 minutes of news time after the fact, and ruining one evening before hand, none of this pissing and moaning about Oh, is this the big one, how am I ever going to handle going through the Big One. If you're that worried, move. there are plenty of places that don't get earthquakes. How is this News for Nerds, how is this Stuff that Matters?
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especially tabloids is that in california the seaside plate is moving under the continetal plate
if anything happens california will still be there
just a little higher (inches or feet)
Might I suggest changing: "Most of California, despite heroic attempts by the Govinator, violently slips into the pages of History."
to: "Most of California, INCLUDING heroic attempts by the Govinator, violently slips into the pages of History."
We don't want to leave any loose ends.
I am outraged that neither political party is doing anything about plate tectonics! How many earthquakes must occur before something is done about it?
Proverbs 21:19
I wouldn't be worrying about this in any timespan that will have man extant. And usually a rift will develop an extra crack that will then fail, like Northeast Africa and the Red sea.
Earthquakes will become more severe though, with more "big ones." No revelation there.
It will probably happen sooner that a piece of Oahu or other hawaiin island will slough off into the sea, if you're a fan of huge disasters.
It will probably happen sooner that a piece of Oahu or other hawaiin island will slough off into the sea, if you're a fan of huge disasters.
Mid-oceanic volcanoes sink under their own weight after their eruptive period ends. A ringed coral reef forms in the shallow water, and it is called an atoll.
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> the Lunar Land tides maxed on June 3 and they do it again on July 1
Note that there is NO empirical correlation between either the intensity of lunar tides and earthquakes nor the phase of the lunar tide and earthquakes. Exhaustive scans through 50 years of data show total non-correlation.
It is possible that we may someday discover something that will allow that affects or causes earthquakes, and that we might therefore be able to predict them. However, the answer is not lunar tides, despite the number of uninformed persons who seem to think differently.
including a 5.2 and 3.6 this morning
Whoa, calm down. There's nothing unusual here.
Magnitude 5 earthquakes happen about once or twice every year in Southern California. There were several smaller quake a few hours after the 5.3, but those are aftershocks and happen after every big quake.
Also, a 3.6 is not unusual at all.
Statewide every week, there are about 5-10 earthquakes that are magnitude 3-4. They happen all the time, and aren't really an indicator of anything.
So calm down, take a deep breath and welcome to the earthquake state.
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