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Thunderbird 0.7 Released
aeinome writes "Right on the heels of the release of Firefox 0.9 comes the official release of Thunderbird 0.7. Updates are similar to Firefox's, with new extension and theme managers and slight increases in speed. Be sure to read the release notes for the complete list of new features, and then download it from the Thunderbird homepage."
will it win critical acclaim?
I have been using Thunderbird for quite sometime now. It is EXCELLENT. The spam filter works well after you train it.
This is great for my parents' computer because they are still using Windows. But I really like Evolution better on the Linux side of things. Thunderbird is very good overall and I recommend it to all existing users of Outlook and Outlook Express. Get out now while you can!
Yes. One checks your mail. The other lets you browse the web. As for killer features, it depends whether you like getting your porn in your inbox or downloading from websites.
Firefox is a webrowser, and Thunderbird is an email client.
Same questions as for firefox, when can we expect it in the Fedora updates?
I used Outlook for a long time before getting fed up with it, and now I'm going through the same thing with Thunderbird. In fact, I still can't seem to switch between HTML and plaintext email composition without changing my overall composition preferences, which is buried at least four or five clicks away from the composition window.
:) and realize email is a centeral pda application and to that end we need scheduling, adress books that sync with our newtons, and help us manage our lives. Indeed, do Thunderbird right and you can really shake up the world because there's a real hunger and need for an ultra powerful email/usenet/scheduler/contact/pda manager.
I'm not sure if it's a config design issue as much as it is a familiarity issue. I dumped Outlook because of its history with security, and Outlook 2002's poor compatibility with Windows XP. Thunderbird is better in some ways, but it definitely has its downsides, not the least of which is the painful configuration of multiple accounts and general preferences.
Firefox and Thunderbird are incredible aps but Thunderbird especially has a lot of room for improvement. When Thunderbird can piece together split usenet files and handle Y-EN/C then it will probably truly have arived for many of us. After that you need to out-exchange exchange
Firefox is a standalone browser whereas Thunderbird is a standalone email/news client.
yet still without multipart MIME support in newsgroups. Sorry guys but if you want your news client to have any sort of market share better make sure it is more porn friendly!
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Er, wait, you're talking about email, huh?
Never mind, then, carry on... [hic!]
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My question is.... When will Firefox and Thunderbird be packaged together in a new full blown Mozilla release? Can't seem to find any info on the website regarding it.
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Opera, AFAIK, is not open-source. Firefox and Thunderbird are. Firefox and Thunderbird IMO are more stable and have more/easier to use features. Also, they look better. And in some cases are faster than Opera. Go try them out, they won't bite :-p
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Here you go.
Hope that helps out.
Joseph?
The correct thread by mscott, pointing out the 0.7 release is right here. This is not a release candidate but an actual point release.
Totally incorrect. While the Release Candidate was released on Monday, which is what you linked to, the new 0.7 is the official release two days later as no major problems were found with the Release Candidate. For more information, see here.
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*slight* increase in speed? I saw that Firefox allegedly had a "3% increase" - Bollocks! - it's CRAP LOADS faster than the old version! If TBird has a similar speed increase I'm looking forward to it.
Which is why we should all type in smaller fonts... to save disk space.
We even use it on the Macs, which came with... Mail.app? iMail.app? whatever... We use it on the Macs, because it just does IMAP better. It still amazes me how poorly most email clients handle IMAP.
Thunderbird also supports TLS for all mail communications, which is very nice to have out of the box support for in free software.
YMMV.
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Three? There's WAY more browsers than that! Check this out:
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/
In the past I've used First Class Client, pine, and currently I'm satisfied with web-based e-mail. What's the benefit of using mail clients such as Thunderbird or Outlook over web-based e-mail? For my web-based e-mail I get
.forward file for my pine account so I can read those e-mails on my web mail account.
* no ads
* at least 1 GB per mail account
* spam filtering
* impossible to download infected attachments
* etc
I also edited the
So, it could just be that I'm a moron, but I thought I'd share anyway.
Virtually every program I use in Mac OS X Panther allows me to overwrite an old program with the newer version without screwing up any of the settings. Thunderbird, however, screwed up big time. It copied perfectly, and opened smoothly, but it did NOT keep any of my settings. I'm having to go through and reconfigure all my email accounts and settings from scratch. I like thunderbird, but this little feature is a big enough pain in the ass that I may have to stick with Mail just so I don't have to worry about wasting time with this again. Proceed with caution, Mac users.
Anyone who uses email frequently cannot live without threaded messaging once exposed to it. This and this alone will keep me off of webmail forever (sure, you *could* thread in webmail, but it would either result in many trips back / forth to the server to expand / collapse the threads, or it would need fancy JS and DHTML magic which I have never seen in a webmail app.).
I access my email solely through IMAP, and while I *do* occasionally use my webmail access while away from the desk, it is far from my first choice.
Other things client side email can give you
- Better spam filtering than webmail, since you can run your own and fine tune it
- Don't have to worry about your email account suddenly being terminated due to the whim of a company
- Privacy issues
- Infinite GB per email account (in theory)
- Better integration with your desktop calendar and addressbook
- Ability to easily sync with your PDA / Cell phone
- Ability to click "mailto:" in your web browser and have it work
etc...
Delete your old install first, then install it. Or install to another folder. That should make it work.
Can Thunderbird finally display progress from separate mail accounts at the same time? Maybe something more than "Downloading 1 of 629" ? Something that indicates how much time is left?
Thanks, I'd never heard of Nvu until just now.
But to answer your question (with another question, don't you just hate that?), why would mozilla bundle Firefox and Thunderbird together, when a) lots of people only use Firefox, or only use Thunderbird, b) the total file size probably wouldn't be much smaller, and c) even if the total file size was smaller, the people for whom it matters most (dialup users) would still be better off with separate files?
Also, I don't see why mozilla.org would distribute Nvu at all, since they didn't make it (despite the fact that it uses Gecko). (Not that it wouldn't be nice if Mozilla made it; they're more interested in cross-platformness than Lindows, and I wouldn't mind having a version for Mac OS X)
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Just a heads up... I installed it and it looks like they've worked this out quite well.
It's behavior in this regard is different that Outlook Express but not in a bad way. I'm still getting used to it, but I think I can make the switch!
The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either. - Benjamin Franklin
Can I use it instead of outlook to connect to the Exchange server at work?
And don't forget that a simple semicolon will do in many situations where you may be tempted to use a whole colon.
I don't know if it is a general problem or not, but when I've tried to download Thunderbird themes Firefox has attempted to use them, instead of passing them to Thunderbird.
Not passing them to Thunderbird isn't that big a deal, really. Trying to use them in Firefox is. Installing a Thunderbird theme into Firefox will cause all of Firefox's controls to disappear.
A little caution is in order.
Actually, running Mozilla is faster than running both Firefox and Thunderbird at the same time, because the mail/news and navigator components of Mozilla use the same instance of the Gecko Rendering Engine without wasting system resources. There is NO reason that I can possibly think of for switching from Mozilla [SeaMonkey] to Firefox+Thunderbird until Firefox+Thunderbird can utilize the same instance of the GRE. Moreover, if you want standalone, you can always select the specific components you want installed during the graphical installation or during compile.
Charamel is pretty nice. It's a dual theme for both Firefox and Thunderbird. I've been using it for the last couple of days, and it supports the new extensions for Firefox 0.9 and Thunderbird 0.7. It's definately worth checking out!
One's made of fire and likes eating bunny rabbits. The other is very loud and normally hunts fish.
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Though you say that your products are not release ready, people actually USE them as if they were.
And who's fault is this? They tell you that their product is not release ready yet you use it as if it is. Are they suppose to magically make it release ready just because you use it as such?
Surely you knew what you were getting yourself into when you switched to a sub 1.0 program. It was a decision you made so don't blame the developers for your poorly thought out choice.
BTW you promised to start your rant with kudos for the Mozilla developers but I don't see you praising them at all.
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Parent is not trolling, HTML email is indeed bad etiquette. Just a matter of KISS. Anyway, why HTML email? Email is meant to send text messages. Attachments are fine if you want to transmit something else (like you can do in regular mail), but deliver the text as text (preferably 7-bit ASCII) so it's easier to read for everyone in any device.
I like thunderbird 0.6 and 0.7 looks set to extend my good experiences with 0.6 - however (don't laugh) I'm not ready to give up Outlook just yet. As far as I'm concerned Thunderbird is a better mail client than Outlook in all but one respect.
I use email as a productivity tool - I send many emails to many people, on many topics - data entry speed is very important to me - and the clarity of my messages is very important to my recipients. I believe I can spell, and that my grammar is good - but this only means I can be sure my message 'hangs-together' when I've proof-read it a couple of times. When I use Word as my editor it corrects my silly typographic errors on the fly and detects and alerts me about many malformed sentences with its famous "wobbly green line" - which I find invaluable. I realise that as a grammar checker Word's is wanting, and that Thunderbird has a spelling checker... but I, for one, find these differences make using Thunderbird less productive than using Outlook.
Are there any plans to wire in a grammar/style checker?
Will we ever see an "autocorrect" feature like Word's?
As silly as these two might sound, IMHO, they are the single biggest barriers to adoption of open source productivity tools.