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Steve Jobs Undergoes Cancer Surgery

Zycom writes "Reuters reports that doctors successfully removed a cancerous tumor from the pancreas of Apple CEO Steve Jobs. In an e-mail he sent out from his hospital bed after the surgery he explained the disease, saying, "I had a very rare form of pancreatic cancer called an islet cell neuroendocrine tumor, which represents about 1 percent of the total cases of pancreatic cancer diagnosed each year, and can be cured by surgical removal if diagnosed in time (mine was)." He will not need to have any chemotherapy or radiation therapy and has an excellent prognosis. While he is recuperating, Tim Cook, head of worldwide sales and operations, will run the company."

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  1. Alrighty then! by erick99 · · Score: 5, Funny
    Jobs was informed, prior to surgery, that there were no user serviceable parts within his pancreas but he could have his pancreas refurbished/rebuilt for a reasonable fee.

    Cheers!

    Erick

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    1. Re:Alrighty then! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's Apple alright. He couldn't go with the standard pancreatic cancer, instead opting for the proprietary form.

    2. Re:Alrighty then! by EverDense · · Score: 5, Funny

      I have a prediction:

      Bill Gates will get cancer in about 10 years time.
      He will then file a slew of patents, like he was
      the first head of a major computing corporation
      to ever have it.

      All the Apple-ites will then point out that Steve
      Jobs had cancer, 10 years before Bill Gates.

      The more historical pedantic will then point out
      that the head of Xerox had cancer back in the 70s.

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    3. Re:Alrighty then! by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Informative
      Jobs was informed, prior to surgery, that there were no user serviceable parts within his pancreas but he could have his pancreas refurbished/rebuilt for a reasonable fee.

      Not quite- his warranty covers everything, except that little bit of his pancreas.

      (I discovered a few weeks ago that the little flippy part of my power adapter..duck-something is what the guy at the store called it... is not covered by warranty, supposedly. Probably because they break like crazy. 3-goddam-thousand-dollar laptop and they want to charge me $20 for the little flippy power plug bit).

    4. Re:Alrighty then! by stuffman64 · · Score: 5, Informative

      The most ironic thing about this, is that it is at least partially true. Former Xerox CEO David T. Kearns was diagnosed with sinus cancer in 1992.

      For those that don't know, Kearns was they guy in charge in the 80s during Xerox's turnaround.

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    5. Re:Alrighty then! by ericdano · · Score: 2, Funny
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    6. Re:Alrighty then! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Steve has announced generation five of his pancreas, and is also announcing his Pancreas Mini. The best thing is, he can have his pancreas in funky colors now.

    7. Re:Alrighty then! by danamania · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...and couldn't resist putting a bit of a spin on it.

    8. Re:Alrighty then! by kdogg73 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I understand that Microsoft is flipping for the bill on Steve's treatment. Spare no expense for their ongoing idea source.

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    9. Re:Alrighty then! by RiscIt · · Score: 2, Insightful


      "Bill Gates will get cancer in about 10 years time."

      Just think of all the money that will get dumped in to cancer research then...

  2. now watch Gates copy him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    and remove his anus

    1. Re:now watch Gates copy him by squidinkcalligraphy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Then where would Microsoft pull its software from?

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  3. Virex 7.2 caught it. by SYFer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Your virus definitions (DAT files) were last updated June 09, 2004, and may be out of date. Please download and install new ones as soon as possible.

    Your virus definitions were last updated on July 21, 2004, and appear to be up to date.

    Cleaning Scan started at 2004-08-01 20:04:43 -0700Scanning /Users/steve/pancreas/*
    Scanning file /Users/steve/pancreas/cells.org...

    Summary report on /Users/steve/pancreas/*
    File(s)
    Total files: ... 50
    Clean: ... 49
    Not scanned: ... 0
    Cleaned: ... 1

    Congratulations, Steve jobs! Huzzah! LiveSTRONG!

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    1. Re:Virex 7.2 caught it. by SYFer · · Score: 4, Informative

      Uh, sorry to double up, but BTW: LIVESTRONG is Lance Armstrong's Cancer Survivor non-profit. That yellow armband that you see on John Kerry's wrist--it's related to this. If you are a MAC (couldn't resist) fanboi, please give a few bucks in Steve's name.

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  4. Nothing like cancer... by nmoog · · Score: 5, Funny

    To keep the "funny" posts away.

    1. Re:Nothing like cancer... by Baricom · · Score: 2

      Agreed. I wish him well.

    2. Re:Nothing like cancer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Offtopic. That's funny.

  5. If I were the surgeon... by TiMac · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...I don't think I'd be able to resist the temptation to say "By the way, I'm a hardcore Windows fan" right as he went under anesthesia. Then tell him the truth when he came back around.

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    1. Re:If I were the surgeon... by TiMac · · Score: 5, Insightful

      All kidding aside, I'm more than glad he's going to be okay. He's done more for the computer industry than most.

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  6. RDF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I guess too much RDF causes cancer....

  7. All Jokes Aside by orion024 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm glad all is going well for him. He's lucky he fell into that rare 1%. Pancreatic cancer is one of the more deadly types of cancer.

    1. Re:All Jokes Aside by nic+barajas · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Never said anything about being cured. I seriously hope he makes a full recovery without and remission. Cancer is such a terrible disease for everybody it afflicts, whether it be the CEO of a major corporation or a small child.

  8. If Jobs wasn't there by usefool · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I would like to ask what would happen if, one day, Steve Jobs wasn't there for Apple anymore, will it still be as innovative as before? (not that I wish anything bad happens to him)

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    1. Re:If Jobs wasn't there by kimota · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I would like to ask what would happen if, one day, Steve Jobs wasn't there for Apple anymore, will it still be as innovative as before? (not that I wish anything bad happens to him)

      I'd say it would be a matter of perception. Jobs wasn't at Apple for, what, about a decade?, and Apple kept innovating without him, although admittedly they weren't hitting too many balls out of the park. Still, they maintained the whole 'cult of the Mac' thing.

      With Steve, you not only have the charisma of Apple and the Mac, but also a legendary, visionary "strong man" figure (and something of the trickster archetype, too, I'd say) to personify Apple and the Mac.

      If Jobs were to die or leave the company suddenly, I think you'd have several years of fans' worrying about the future and columnists' saying that the company was rudderless and lacking vision, as though everything Apple had done right with Steve at the helm had been solely his idea. Real innovations would be cast in the media as mis-steps, actual mistakes would be seen as the death knell of Apple, that sort of thing... Actually, it'd be a lot like now, only without the gloss and drama of Jobs as wunder-CEO.

      --Kimota!

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  9. I Wonder... by Op7imus_Prim3 · · Score: 4, Funny

    was the operation covered under Applecare?

  10. New Study shows by Cyberglich · · Score: 3, Funny

    That droping acid to design new computer poducts causes cancer.

  11. What!? by xpurple · · Score: 5, Funny

    You mean he's not immortal!?

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    1. Re:What!? by Shky · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well quite clearly he is.

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  12. A link to his letter by ShallowThroat · · Score: 5, Informative
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    1. Re:A link to his letter by daviddennis · · Score: 4, Funny

      I wish Steve all the best, but I had to laugh at this line at the end of his letter:

      PS: I'm sending this from my hospital bed using my 17-inch PowerBook and an Airport Express.

      That's our Steve, always promoting his products!

      Of course that doesn't mean they're not great, and he doesn't have every right to do so, because they is and he does. But somehow I had to laugh, perhaps at his resiliance more than anything else. Life goes on, right?

      D

  13. cancerous tumor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Reuters reports that doctors successfully removed a cancerous tumor from the pancreas of Apple CEO Steve Jobs.

    They called it Microsoft.

    Yeah, yeah, cancer isn't funny. But karma whoring overcomes all.

  14. c'mon by giampy · · Score: 2, Funny

    there must have been some pieces of APPLE somewhere there !!!

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  15. Re:Detection? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Guys with insane wealth get preventative yearly CT scans.

  16. Good to Hear by agraupe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've had a love/hate relationship with Macs (as with windows), but I still wouldn't wish this on anyone. It's good to hear that he is recovering.

  17. Re:No offense ... by telstar · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "But why slashdot of all places ?"
    • Simple as this ... no Steve Jobs ... no Apple computers ... no iMac, iCal, iPod, iBook ... you get the picture. He's one of the men that continues to shape the industry ... so when he goes under the knife, people tend to take notice.

  18. Double-take by mikeophile · · Score: 5, Funny

    While he is recuperating, Tim Cook, head of worldwide sales and operations, will run the company.

    Am I the only one who read the word "run" as "ruin" on first read?

  19. Seriously, folks by justin_saunders · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is a good time to reflect on our own mortality.

    For all the whining, posing, Microsoft/Apple/Linux bashing we do; for all the work related stress we put up with and all the missed opportunities to spend time with loved ones; we only have a limited time on Earth.

    The most important thing is....
    ..eh who cares. I JUST WANNA PLAY DOOM 3.

    And get well Steve. Take the time off to think about how great a colour iPod with bluetooth would be.

    cheers,
    Justin.

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  20. Oh, and one more thing... by tm2b · · Score: 4, Funny

    I find it interesting the way it was all handled, outside of stock trading hours.

    I wonder if his doctor had a dark enough sense of humor to say something like,
    "Well, we got your test results back. Your liver is fine, your heart is great, and your pulmonary health is excellent.
    Oh, and one more thing..."

    Great to hear he'll be fine.

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  21. Re:Detection? by erick99 · · Score: 2, Informative
    You develop any of a host of symptoms that cause you to see your doctor, who, in the course of diagnosing what ails you, discovers that your problem is within your pancreas. Sort of like going to a physician because of "stress headaches" and finding out that you have a brain tumour.

    Cheers,

    Erick

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  22. Well You Know What They Say.... by Snagle · · Score: 5, Funny

    An apple a day keeps the cancer away.....oh....guess not.

    Get well soon steve

  23. Ah-ha! by iamdrscience · · Score: 2, Funny

    If an apple a day truly kept the doctor away then this never would have happened. I knew that saying was just marketing hype.

  24. Steve is now a Type-1 Diabetic :-( by cytoman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Now that his islet cells have been removed, I guess Steve Jobs is now a Type-1 diabetic, condemned to survive on iNSULIN iNJECTIONS like many others (including me). Or maybe he'll get one of those hi-tech insulin pump/blood glucose monitor combos... i hope that stem-cell research now accelerates its effort to find a cure for type-1 diabetes. Poor taste in humor acknowledged (see above use of iNSULIN) and apologies submitted in advance.

    1. Re:Steve is now a Type-1 Diabetic :-( by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Not really, you cannot remove all of the beta cells (the ones that produce insulin) in a pancreas w/o removing the entire thing.

      They just took out a tumor.

    2. Re:Steve is now a Type-1 Diabetic :-( by jcr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Unfortunately, there is not much economic incentive to find a cure for Diabetes...they just make too much damn money off those insulin shots.

      Your statement presumes that those who currently sell insulin would be able to prevent the sellers of a cure from getting it to market.

      -jcr

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  25. last line by jeffehobbs · · Score: 2, Interesting


    the last line of his memo:

    PS: I'm sending this from my hospital bed using my 17-inch PowerBook and an Airport Express.

    Note he stops just short of asserting it was the Airport Express that cured his cancer...

    In all seriousness, any time anyone beats cancer it is Good News. Has there been any reports on how the cancer was caught so quickly?

    ~jeff

    1. Re:last line by Basehart · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've been looking around for the kind of symptoms that these really nasty pancreatic cancers produce and it seems there are few that show themselves until it's basically kind of too late. So, I'm guessing he gets a full body scan of some kind every six months - not something your local health care provider will get too excited about.

      One pointer is that he leads such a healthy lifestyle, so no smoking/overweight triggers (apart from all the stress) which leads me to think it may be a genetic issue that his doctor was aware of.

  26. Hang in there, Steve by nordicfrost · · Score: 3, Insightful

    All competition put aside, the modern IT world wouldn't be the same without you. If you hadn't dragged Apple kicking and screaming into the new millennium, who would have given Microsoft a run for its money (until Linux on the desktop comes)?

    As a child of a twice cancer survivour, I wish all of your family well, I know they are praying for you (Even if they aren't religious).

  27. rumor sites by SuperBanana · · Score: 4, Funny
    Reuters reports that doctors successfully removed a cancerous tumor from the pancreas of Apple CEO Steve Jobs.

    Thus dispelling rumors circulating for days (on MacOSRumors et al) that Steve was:

    • Getting his penis enlarged
    • undergoing liposuction
    • having a gender-change operation (both sexes, for compatibility)
    • having breast implants installed

    ....and of course, various other unsubstantiated rumors not worth mentioning (everyone figured out the bionic legs were bogus right away).

  28. Jobs used the wrong hospital by green+pizza · · Score: 4, Funny

    Jobs should have had these folks work on his pancreas, he would have saved a bundle!

    http://www.ipodbattery.com/

  29. distorted vision of CEOs etc by SuperBanana · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Simple as this ... no Steve Jobs ... no Apple computers ... no iMac, iCal, iPod, iBook

    Hate to break it to you, but here's sorta how it works.

    Jobs says "let's make an MP3 player better than anything else out there", or someone suggests it, and Jobs says "OK, let's look into it".

    One person sees what "anything else" has. Another sees what people might be willing to pay. Another runs some numbers on what it might cost to build. Another works on a little concept art based on what the engineers think is reasonable in terms of size etc.

    Then everyone comes back and presents their stuff- not necessarily to Steve, maybe someone under him, who then brings it to him. Jobs says "hey, looks like we can do this and make money off it. Let's whip up some prototypes", etc.

    1. Re:distorted vision of CEOs etc by MouseR · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, here's my moderation points going away for this reply.

      If you'd be a little more informed, you'd know from talking with Apple engineers (lite I do at the Apple World Wide Developer Conference) that Jobs actually has a say in everything.

      He actually overseas both software and hardware development to the point of butting in on designs/features/implementation and repeatedly looks over your shoulder to make sure it's as he wants it to be.

      At first, I'm told, this is nerve-wrecking and eventually, Apple engineerings rely on this and some actually appreciate it when comes the time where Jobs has nothing much to say about your product. Engineers told me, "it's at that point we usually know we have a winner".

      (All jokes aside, I've not heard this specific comment about the Mac Cube :-)

  30. Does Jobs' have a successor? by micron · · Score: 4, Interesting

    First, I am an Apple fan. Go Steve Go!

    As a shareholder, and considering that Apple is a public company, does Jobs have a successor?

    Case and point: We all saw what happened last time Steve left. He came back and essentially saved the company from destruction. He was quoted as saying something along the lines of "I am not going to let someone wreck this company again".

    From what I see, Apple = Steve. Apple's success lies in Steve's hands, or more to the point, as goes Jobs, goes Apple.

    Does anyone have insight on this? What happens if something happens and Steve is not at the helm any more? Does Apple die with him?

    1. Re:Does Jobs' have a successor? by jmichaelg · · Score: 2, Insightful
      From what I see, Apple = Steve. Apple's success lies in Steve's hands, or more to the point, as goes Jobs, goes Apple.

      It sure looks that way. The upside to having Jobs pay attention to so many details in a new product launch is you know what you're getting when you buy an Apple product. The downside is there's no one who knows what to do when he's gone because he's micro-managed everything.

      It's very hard to start a company that lasts more than 5 years. It's even harder to start a company that survives its founder's leaving.

    2. Re:Does Jobs' have a successor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If not I'll gladly take on that responsibility.

      It would be a hard job. Steve Jobs is not one of those CEOs that people resent for pulling down zillions of dollars for doing basically nothing all day. Running Apple would be like herding cats.

      It would be a lot easier to run Dell, or even HP. You'd be under less pressure to push the envelope.

  31. Who knew.. by lpontiac · · Score: 2, Informative

    .. that the reality distortion field was ionising?

  32. Medical Information by cytoman · · Score: 5, Informative
    I got this from http://www.umm.edu/ency/article/000393.htm Pancreatic islet cell tumor

    Overview

    Definition:
    A pancreatic islet cell tumor is an uncommon tumor of the pancreas that arises from a distinct type of cell in the pancreas, the islet cell. Normally, islet cells produce insulin and other hormones, and islet cell tumors can also produce hormones.

    Alternative Names:
    Islet cell tumors; Islet of Langerhans tumor; Neuroendocrine tumors

    Causes, incidence, and risk factors:

    In the normal pancreas, cells called islet cells produce hormones that regulate a variety of bodily functions, such as blood sugar level and the production of stomach acid.

    Tumors that arise from islet cells of the pancreas can also produce a variety of hormones, though some do not. Although islet cells produce many different hormones, most tumors secrete only one specific hormone that leads to specific symptoms. Pancreatic islet cell tumors can be benign or malignant (cancerous).

    Islet cell tumors include insulinomas, glucagonomas, and gastrinomas (Zollinger-Ellison syndrome). A family history of multiple endocrine neoplasia, type I (MEN I) is a risk factor for the development of islet cell tumors.

    Symptoms:
    * Sweating
    * Tremor
    * Rapid heart rate
    * Anxiety
    * Hunger
    * Dizziness
    * Headache
    * Clouding of vision
    * Confusion
    * Behavioral changes
    * Convulsions
    * Loss of consciousness
    * Skin rash that migrates on the face, abdomen, perineum, buttocks, or lower extremities
    o May be crusty and scaly
    o May have raised lesions filled with clear fluid or pus
    * Inflamed mouth and tongue
    * Weight loss
    * Weight gain (unintentional)
    * Peptic ulcer pain
    * Vomiting blood
    * Diarrhea
    * Abdominal pain

    Note: The symptoms depend upon the type of tumor and the hormone produced.

    Signs and tests:
    The type of tests performed may vary depending upon the symptoms associated with the condition. Some of the following abnormalities may be detected on testing:

    * elevated serum glucagon level
    * an abdominal CT scan may reveal a pancreatic tumor (sometimes the tumor may be too small to see with a CT scan)
    * elevated fasting glucose level
    * abnormal glucose tolerance test
    * catheterization of the pancreas to show high hormone level in the veins (this involves putting a wire into a blood vessel and taking blood out for measurements)
    * MRI of abdomen to show pancreatic tumor (MRI can sometimes see smaller tumors than those seen with a CT scan)
    * elevated serum insulin level
    * elevated serum insulin C-peptide
    * low fasting glucose level
    * increased gastrin level
    * positive secretin stimulation test for pancreas
    * positive calcium infusion test

    Treatment:
    Treatment will depend upon the type of tumor discovered and whether the tumor is benign or malignant. Malignant tumors spread to other organs, grow aggressively, and may not be treatable. In general, tumors are removed surgically, if possible.

    If malignant cancerous cells spread (metastasize) to the liver, a portion of the liver may also be removed, if possible. If the cancer is widespread, various forms of chemotherapy may be used to shrink the tumors.

    If the abnormal production of hormones is causing problems, medications may be given to counteract their effects. For example, the overproduction of gastrin in the case of gastrinomas results in oversecretion of acid in the stomach, and medications that block acid secretion can be taken to reduce symptoms.

    Expectations (prognosis):
    Patients may be cured if tumors are surgically removed before they have spread to other organs. If tumors are malignant, chemotherapy may be used, but is usually unsuccessful at cur

  33. Symptoms, diagnosis, treatment of such tumors by a-aiyar · · Score: 5, Informative
    There has been a lot of speculation about how Steve Jobs' cancer was diagnosed, and whether he has annuals CT scans or MRIs.

    I don't know if he does, but the neuroendocrine tumor in his islet cells would have affected insulin production which in turn would have caused symptoms such as:

    • intense sweating, anxiety, hunger
    • tremor, rapid heart rate
    • dizziness, obscured vision
    • rapid fluctuations in weight
    • diarrhea, abdominal pain, possible vomiting of blood

    Steve's doctors would have tested for a number of things including:

    • elevated serum glucagon
    • elevated fasting glucose levels, and high glucose tolerance
    • elevated levels of serum insulin
    • possibly increased levels of gastrin (which would cause the increased hunger)

    They would have have then ordered abdominal MRI scans, because these tumors (in the Islet of Langerhans) would likely be too small to see by CT scans). If the MRIs were positive, surgery would be next.

    If the tumor had metastasized, a portion of the liver would have also been removed, and chemotherapy would have been used. As that appears not to be the case, Steve's tumor is likely a pre-malignant lesion.

    1. Re:Symptoms, diagnosis, treatment of such tumors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Neuroendocrine tumors are often too small to be seen on a MRI. Often they are found by injecting the patient with radioisotope-tagged antibodies that bind to the specific hormone that the tumor is producing and then the tumor shows up on a PET scan.

  34. haha what? by vena · · Score: 4, Funny

    PS: I'm sending this from my hospital bed using my 17-inch PowerBook and an Airport Express.

    dude's in the hospital and still manages a plug. bravo, mate.

    1. Re:haha what? by ChicagoBiker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It just goes to show us, he's as nuts and excited about technology as the rest of us are. (I'm sure at least half of /. if they were in the same position would mention how they got an e-mail like that out).

    2. Re:haha what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They don't allow cell phone usage in hospitals because they cause interference with equipment. Wonder how they feel about wireless networking??

  35. An Apple a day.... by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...keeps the doctor away. Opps.. maybe he stood to close to the Windows®

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  36. Disgusting by MacOSXHead · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I am aghast at the some of the remarks to this news.

    First of all, Steve is a father to several children and is sick with a serious illness. This alone should cause you to some show sort of decency in your remarks.

    I have a nephew who is fighting Leukemia. When you visit someone you know or who is a member of your family with cancer, it is hardly funny.

    The Slashdot community may not respect Steve Jobs for what he did for modern computing. That is their ignorance. I just cannot understand the callousness of some people who poke fun other's tragedies.

    I wish S.J. a speedy recovery, foremost for his family. I do not know him, but I know the result of his imagination. We should all strive to have that impact on the world.

    1. Re:Disgusting by aluminumcube · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Having been an EMT and having had a couple of family members suffer through various forms of cancer, let me give you a little piece of advice- humor is the glue that keeps people alive.

      I have yet to see a single comment that wished Steve harm or anything less then a full recovery. If someone had said something along those lines, it would be crossing the line into "Asshole Land," but surfing at +2 carma, I have seen nothing like that.

      Otherwise, lighten up. Cancer jokes are funny and the people that laugh at them the hardest are usually people who have/had it.

    2. Re:Disgusting by tekunokurato · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm a 22 year old cancer survivor and I don't need to say anything more than this: Laughter is the ONLY fucking way to get through this stuff.

    3. Re:Disgusting by agildehaus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have seen no posts which do not respectfully make light of the situation. Jobs is doing well from what we all can gather, and so we're punching him in the arm a bit to congratulate him.

      Much love for science and its ability to fix some of the ailments we all face.

    4. Re:Disgusting by mjj12 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      >I am aghast at the some of the remarks to this news.

      I'm not. In this comment section I have seen lots of people express that it is good news that Steve Jobs is likely to make a quick recovery, and lots of people wish him the best. (I will add to that. Get well soon Steve). And there is discussion of the actual illness, as well as lots of jokes comparing his cancer and the medical procedures to practices and products of Apple and the computer industry. Few if any of the jokes strike me as mean-spirited though. Life can be hard. One way you survive it is by being jocular about it, even at difficult times.

    5. Re:Disgusting by Idarubicin · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I am aghast at the some of the remarks to this news.

      In general, the remarks I have seen have been respectful of Steve's condition. Yes, some have shown a sense of humour, and some have taken a few shots at Apple's warranty plans. It should be noted that Steve has an excellent prognosis. Non-metastatic cancer, well localized and readily excised. People would be more circumspect if the outcome were more in doubt.

      Somber, humourless expressions of support are all well and good for politicians, and they're fine from close friends and family--in moderation.

      From anybody else, come on. For people who are ill, the last thing they need are folks moping morosely around their hospital bed acting like they're already dead. Steve expects to be all right, and he's apparently quite well enough to be plugging the Powerbook and AirPort from his bed. Yes, he has cancer. Yes, he's having surgery. It's more serious than a tonsillectomy, but easier than a coronary artery bypass graft. For that matter, it will probably be done laparascopically, so it's less traumatic than, say, a C-section.

      The problem is that word 'cancer'. It seems to have the same magical effect as 'terrorism'. The words are the ultimate trump cards in medicine and politics, respectively. Hear either one, and you're supposed to sit in stony, respectful, mournful silence.

      Damn it, get real! These people are our friends and family. Should we stop laughing with them just because they're ill? Treat them differently? Shy away from smiling around them? Suck the fun out of their lives because joy, and humour, and laughter are only for the healthy?

      In case some dumbass wants to spout off on my 'right' to have an opinion on this--yes, I have some experience with cancer. My best friend's mother passed away from a very aggressive breast cancer. My great uncle is pushing eighty after surviving a bout with lung cancer. I do cancer research for a living, in a large research and teaching hospital. Oh, and there seems to be a tendency towards Alzheimer's in my family, which is a really scary way to go.

      I feel for the parent poster's nephew, and everyone who is facing cancer. It is scary, and it isn't funny. What I see here on Slashdot, though, it not people laughing at Jobs' cancer. I see people laughing with Jobs, because he's going to beat cancer. I see people laughing at Jobs for the same reasons they always have, and it's a taste of normality. I see people laughing at Apple, because it's friendly ribbing that Jobs is used to. He's one of the geek family; he took the time to tell us from his hospital bed what kind of hardware he was emailing from. The parent poster still plays games and jokes with his nephew, doesn't he?

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  37. Jobs' Dirty Secret by OrthodonticJake · · Score: 5, Funny

    Jobs' Unreplaceable Pancreas Lasts Only 588 Months!!

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  38. PET scan by quetzalc0atl · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I would not be surprised if his tumor was detected using a somewhat-newly developed technology known as a PET (positron emission tomography) scan.

    The one thing that all cancerous cells have in common is a heavily anaerobic metabolism that works very quickly in order to support the continual state of mitosis that cancerous cells are in. An amount of radio-tagged sugars are introduced into the body and an image can then be created where areas that metabolize the most show up the darkest. Some areas are obviously normal tissues that simply use more sugar (muscle tissue, liver, etc.) but an area that stands out could be a candidate for further testing.

  39. Words Steve didn't want to hear as he went under. by nlinecomputers · · Score: 4, Funny

    Damn. It blue screened AGAIN?

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  40. Re:Detection? by paxil · · Score: 3, Informative


    This is actually an interesting question. I am not specifically aware of any general screening possible for pancreatic cancer either. There are many blood markers that can be positive for specific cancer types, but it seems more likely that an MRI or CT scan for something else (unrelated) showed this tumor.


    Actualy, that is probobly not how it went down.

    One can think of the pancreas as functionaly divided into two systems: the exocrine pancreas and the endocrine pancreas.

    The exocrine pancreas is involved in the digestion of food and is where the vast majority of pancreatic tumors occur. One of the reasons they are so often fatal is that tumors of the exocrine pancreas rarely produce symptoms befor they extend into other structures.

    The endocrine pancreas produces several hormones, including insulin, glucogon, VIP, somatostatin, and so on. Tumors of this portion of the pancreas often do produce symptoms secondary to overproduction of one or more of these hormones.

    Jobs tumor was one of the endocrine types (he does not say more specificaly) so it would not be unusual for his tumor to have prompted studies which led to its detection.

    All just speculation, of course.

  41. Re:A serious question. by Moofie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Created the notion that computers should be well designed, not just raw utilitarian functionalism?

    You might disagree, and you're entitled to. Me, I think Jobs has immeasurably improved my experience of using computers.

    What has he done? Re-energized a bunch of creative engineers and designers. Led them to take on the world and design insanely great products.

    Is he a coder? Or an engineer? Or a designer? No. He's a visionary. We need all those sorts of people to advance the state of any art.

    You are, of course, free to hate his vision. I do not. : )

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  42. Nah, he'll never get rid of Ballmer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I couldn't resist. It was futile.

  43. Re:Get well.... by ericdano · · Score: 2, Informative

    Lets see. Start here and get enlightened.

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  44. Re:Get well.... by Moofie · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Like it or not, an idea is only as good as its salesman.

    See my other response to your post on the subject.

    Woz didn't turn Apple around, leading the company to develop a kick ass new operating system and this sweet Powerbook I'm working on.

    Woz is a freakin' genius, and a real mensch. But just because he's great doesn't mean Jobs has to be not-great. Jobs is a great leader.

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  45. Re:A serious question. by martinX · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Reality distortion field. He makes people believe anything can happen.

    And then it does.

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  46. Windows Kills by M51DPS · · Score: 2, Funny

    In other news, Steve Jobs dies an untimely death Monday morning when one of the hospitals computers, running Microsoft Windows, suffers a minor "glitch" and prescribes an overdose of medication. Investigations are still underway.

  47. Use the long cable. by Trillan · · Score: 3, Informative

    The flippy one is only two prong. If you're connected to a USB item without ground, you'll get a shock through the case of the Powerbook if you're using only the two prong adapter.

    It happened to me a lot when I was overseas with flakey main power.

  48. To all those in doubt by Dylbert · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Without Steve, a lot of us wouldn't have the jobs we do have (or don't have?) right aboot now - nor would we be using some of the taken-for-granted-now-but-revolutionary-at-the-tim e gadgets that we rely on every day.

    Get well soon, Steve. If the comments to this post are any gauge, you have the support of the nerd community across the globe.

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  49. Re:A Wake Up Call? by phrasebook · · Score: 5, Funny

    Live your life as if you are going to be dead tomorrow.

    Okay that makes sense. Here is my plan for every day of the rest of my life:

    7am: wake up, eat an enormous breakfast
    8am - midday: make funeral arrangements
    afternoon: give away my cds, computer etc.
    night: go look at the stars, or something

    7am: wake up, eat an enormous breakfast
    8am - midday: make funeral arrangements
    afternoon: give away my cds, computer etc.
    night: go look at the stars, or something

    7am: wake up, eat an enormous breakfast
    8am - midday: make funeral arrangements
    afternoon: give away my cds, computer etc.
    night: go look at the stars, or something

    7am: wake up, eat an enormous breakfast
    8am - midday: make funeral arrangements
    afternoon: give away my cds, computer etc.
    night: go look at the stars, or something

    7am: wake up, eat an enormous breakfast
    8am - midday: make funeral arrangements
    afternoon: give away my cds, computer etc.
    night: go look at the stars, or something

    7am: wake up, eat an enormous breakfast
    8am - midday: make funeral arrangements
    afternoon: give away my cds, computer etc.
    night: go look at the stars, or something ...

  50. Duck Head. by SKorvus · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Duck head". Called that because it looks vaguely like a Disney(R) trademarked character when viewed at the right angle. If you squint. It's true it's not normally covered by warranty: they're very simple physical parts that would only normally break due to abuse by a user. If you can explain the nature of the failure to AppleCare support, and indicate you didn't mistreat the poor thing, they might send you a free one. Hope this helps. :-)

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  51. In other news... by ModernGeek · · Score: 4, Informative

    ... one of the authors of PearPC was hit by a train and killed.

    More on their site

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  52. Taking up a PayPal collection... by cabra771 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ok everybody, let's get together and buy Steve an iPod to cheer him up a little.

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  53. micromanagement and credit where it is due by SuperBanana · · Score: 2, Insightful
    If you'd be a little more informed, you'd know from talking with Apple engineers (lite I do at the Apple World Wide Developer Conference) that Jobs actually has a say in everything.

    Did you just seriously imply that you need to "talk to developers at WWDC" like you do(nice horn tootin' by the way) to know Jobs micromanages? It's probably his most infamous personality quirk, aside from his massive ego, aka the Steve Reality Distortion Field.

    You missed my point entirely. The original Jobs Fanboy said "ohmygosh, because, without Steve, we wouldn't have had..."

    Which is absurd, and ignores the fact that even if Jobs pushes his nose into everything, at the end of the day, 98% of the work was done by other people. I can't stand it when people attribute the end product entirely to CEOs...

    1. Re:micromanagement and credit where it is due by mj_1903 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Ok, let me rephrase it for him:

      Without Steve Jobs, the products may exist, but they most certainly would not be up to the extraidonary standard they are.

      Case in point, the original iPod as designed by engineers (pre-release) was almost impossible to navigate. Jobs sat down with the team and worked out how you could get to anywhere on the iPod with only 3 clicks. That is what sets Apple's products apart and what makes them so successful.

  54. Poor Tim by victor_the_cleaner · · Score: 4, Funny

    So how many times do you think Steve is going to be checking in on Tim? I say he gets about 5-10 calls per day, then of course Steve will show up for un-announced visits.

    I certainly hope there is not a single slip-up when Steve is gone, otherwise Tim is out the door in September.

  55. Friend has same cancer in Nov 03 by peter303 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It was diagnosed by a sudden case of jaundice- turning orange and peeing black. The pancreas outlet is near the bile duct, so the tumor messed that up. This is basically a good sign, because if you diagnois it by adominal pain, it has probably spread too far for the operation.
    The Whipple operation removes a good fraction of your digestive system- part of pancreas, part of stomach, part of colon, gall bladder. My friend lost 50 pounds from post-op recovery and radiation. However has gained half that back. He's had to learn how to eat on a diminished digestive system. A sliver of the pancreas was left, so no insulin is necessary.

  56. NY Times Spin on the Article by victor_the_cleaner · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I find it interesting that the New York Times version of the story is titled, 'Apple Chief Has Emergency Cancer Surgery' seems they had to throw that 'Emergency' in there. The other places I have seen the story never mention 'Emergency' in the title or the body of the article.

    1. Re:NY Times Spin on the Article by toddhisattva · · Score: 3, Informative

      For the 63rd consecutive week, coming in at #1 on the New York Times fiction list, is the New York Times!

  57. Re:I like Apple products by hkb · · Score: 2, Funny

    Actually, they're brushed metal, like Iron Man.

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  58. Will this change the way Apple innovates? by amichalo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    First: Steve, best wishes and speedy recovery. Millions of people are praying for you and wishing you well.

    Second: Does anyone think this will serve as a 'wake up' call to Apple's leadership and innovation practices?

    I am a Switcher and what I found when I started following the world-that-is-Apple that Steve === Apple. He was a founder, when he was outed the company went on a death spiral, when he came back it got a second life with the 1st gen iMac and now Appel rules digital music.

    But is that the best way to run a company? Certainly you NEED a strong leader, but it seems a bit pied piper to me. What would the next years look like for Apple if Steve had had terminal cancer? Has Apple grown into an organization that can go on without him?

    I work for a small business and our founder and president of three decades will soon retire. He has run his company very patriarchially (sp) and it has been interesting to see senior managment change their styles to rely less upon the president for decision making and instead, take that on themselves.

    I use that as an illustration of growing pains that Apple may one day soon face. How to instil the innovation and business savvy of Steve Jobs throughout the organization so that Apple will be a strong company well past Steve's tenure.

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    1. Re:Will this change the way Apple innovates? by ooze · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Nothing wrong with enterprises heavily based on one person...As long as the person properly takes care of successors.

      While the biggest flaw in democracy is that the inept cripple the apted (the efficiency of the whole system is the product of the efficiency of it's parts...and noone can tell me there is no null in any parlament), the biggest flaw in single leadership is that is was most of the time more or less chance that the people getting the job were capable of it. A monarchy, when the crown is given to one descendent, is very prone to giving it to an inept. It was no coincidence, that the roman Empire started to diminish, when passing the title to a close relative became the custom. Before that the Emperor most of the time adopted some givted child and educated and trained it carefully to be the successor, Marc Aurelius being a most notable example. The rise of Prussia was the result of an incredible strain of luck of having 4-5 very different, but very able kings in succession.

      But well, we are talking about companies, so probably I'm talking nonsense.

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  59. Prognosis by Tucan · · Score: 3, Informative

    Because this is a rare tumor there is not a lot of information available about the expected duration of survival following diagnosis. Based on a very small study of patients who had surgical treatment for nonfunctioning neuroendocrine tumors of the pancreas (the relevant category for neuroendocrine tumors) the median survival among patients is more than 10 years if the cancer has not spread to the lymph nodes. If the lymph nodes are positive for cancer then median survival is about 6 years. Because these statistics are based on only a few cases it is really impossible to say what Steve's individual prognosis would be. However, he's clearly better off with this type of tumor than with an adenocarcinoma, which has a median survival of about 18 months for the 20% of patients who are lucky enough to be diagnosed early enough to have surgery. Median survival is only about 4-5 months among those for whom surgery is not an option.

    I hope things continue to go well for him.

  60. Rumors by peteMG · · Score: 5, Funny
    Perhaps the next big thing coming up is:
    • Apple announces they'll be at some big medical conference
    • It's found out that Steve is giving the keynote
    • He talks about Apple's work in biotech and other scientific applications..
    • one more thing...
    • "We've developed a new piece of software. We call it 'Doctor'. Together with some beautiful new hardware, it can really do amazing things.. and I'd like to show it to you now."
    • cue video of a PowerBook
    • performing the cancer surgery
    • on steve
    • by itself
    • conference center thrown into chaos; Steve escapes by helicopter
    • international frenzy ensues. Apple stock rises 339948290580% (profit)

    Best wishes for luck and a speedy recovery.
  61. Lighten up Francis by whats_a_zip · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Geez, ever hear of gallows humor? Who among us hasn't lost someone dear to cancer, or has someone close to them battling the disease. Yeah, it happens. I haven't seen a single post that wished ill upon Steve Jobs. Get a sense of humor... by the way, they say laughing reduces the risk of cancer. So consider this group therapy.

  62. Lucky! by Misanthropy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wow! He's very lucky they caught it early. Most people don't survive pancreatic cancer as it will usually metastisize much easier than other cancer types.
    Interesting coincidence that I just had a lecture (med school) this morning about a pancreatic cancer case and then get on slashdot to read that Jobs has it.
    I wish him well. It's one of the worst cancers to get.

  63. This makes me think of another genius by Daynras · · Score: 2, Informative

    Bill Hicks died from pancreatic cancer on February 26, 1994.

    He was a stand up comedian known for his controversial political topics, showing a --fairly uncommon-- tendency to tell the simple, naked truth.

    I wish all the Bills out there were the same... yes Mr. Gates, I am talking to you :)))

    Here there are some of his quotes.

    In these strange days we are living, we cannot afford forgetting his humour.

  64. Something to Pass the Time by not_hylas(+) · · Score: 2, Funny

    Dear Steve,
    Here are a few things to help you pass the time (yes, we know you read Slashdot).
    You are for all intents and purposes "on mandatory holiday", make the most of it.
    We assume you have a Powerbook on your roll over table and some kind of mouse, so shoo everyone away and have 'em close the door.

    First update your OS, go to ...err, nevermind.

    Hmmmm, to get started, let's smack some penguins.

    http://henriluoma.net/pingu/

    If anyone comes in, go here on a tab in Safari, CLICK! lalalala-I'm doing business.

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8& pr ev=/search%3Fq%3DAAPL%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF -8%26sa%3DG&q=stocks:AAPL+

    OK, that's enough excitement, chill for a bit, this is a girl I used to know - made a few records back in the day, you might like it.

    http://www.universalrecords.com/quicktime/ediebr ic kell/

    OK, awake? Let's have some real fun, First, get a throw away email account.

    http://mail.yahoo.com/?.intl=us

    You know get a screen account name like "ByteMe!@yahoo.com"

    Set?
    So, ask yourself what have you wanted to say to some of these jokers on certain sites that you couldn't because, well, you haven't had the time?

    Go crazy. the Hospitals IP number IS temporary, right?

    (practice your maniacal laugh) It helps if you give the morphine drip a couple of sqeezes. :-) Having fun yet?

    Take a break, more music.

    http://corinnesmusic.com/

    (yeah, I like her)

    Back?

    What to do, what to do ... (tap, tap, tap).
    These guys are always fun:

    http://www.appleturns.com/

    Don't split a stitch Steve-o.

    Alrighty then, since your're pretty much left to your own devices here, I think the Army still has that free shoot 'em up on their site:

    http://www.americasarmy.com/

    I know you got the hang of it, so I'll be wishing you the best, get well, you know we love you.
    (Never mind the Bullocks ...)

    P.S. Ask for the ICE CREAM - they have it you know.

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