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Windows Accelerators - Do They Really Work?

danila asks: "Today I came across an intriguing review of Windows tweakers on a Russian technology news site. Among the plethora of traditional registry tweakers, the review mentioned Hare 1.5.1. The developers promised nothing less than up to 300% speed increase, 10% FPS increase in 3D games, automatic RAM preservation and even a wizard that automatically cleans and optimizes Windows. It also had AntiCrash 3.6.1 a program to prevent up to 95.8% of Windows crashes. Understandably, I was both intrigued and suspicious since it sounded too good to be true." Has anyone tried this piece of software with any degree of success? How successful are other "windows accelerators" at improving Windows performance? "After a little research I found that download.com didn't have it and there are precious few reviews of this revolutionary software online, but that it was endorsed by McAfee and that developers touted conformance with Microsoft's interface guidelines as an important feature.

Still suspicious, I gathered all my courage and installed both programs (silently preparing for something like Bonsi Buddy or XXX Toolbar) on my Win2k Pro machine (P4 1.6/512Mb). Truth be told, after several minutes I was blown away. Obviously I can't tell how well every promised features works, but disk caching (and pre-fetching) that Hare does is outstanding and display performance improved enough to scare me - windows were opening, minimizing and redrawing without the delay I was accustomed to.

The question is -- is it real or was I fooled by some clever placebo tricks? And if it is real, why isn't the Web full of success stories involving Hare and AntiCrash? Why isn't everyone installing them on every Windows machine in the world? And a rhetorical question -- why doesn't Microsoft incorporate some of the features into its operating systems."

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  1. 7-Max by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    7-Max by the author of 7-Zip works well for memory heavy programs assuming your drivers all support it. It works by using 4mb instead of 4kb pages for memory management.

    1. Re:7-Max by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Please note that the 'sig' printed above is basically an 'rm -rf /' in perl-obsfucacted code, and that the comment is by an AC, so it really isn't a sig...

      And yes, i discovered that it is that, not by perl-knowledge on my part, but because i, well, ran it.....

      So mod him down please, but if you feel like testing it, for God's sake, do it on an unprivileged account...

  2. why doesn't microsoft do this? by insomnyuk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Even if this does work, in a big business, the left hand rarely knows what the right hand is doing. Its amazing what you won't find if you only use MSN search.

    1. Re:why doesn't microsoft do this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Sounds like Quarterdeck's Hurricane which was sold to McAfee & they let it die.
      I bought several of these accelerators years ago and Hurricane was the only one that actually did anything.

    2. Re:why doesn't microsoft do this? by costa9 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It is not suprising that microsoft doesn't do this. It is a lot of harder to get software working than work faster than before. For a general purpose OS, M$ has to deal with the problem that how to let the whole big monster (windows) working in all situations, with different hardware configuration, different setup, different purposes of using the computer, etc. It's a little safer to use some less aggressive parameters, in order not to break stuff.

    3. Re:why doesn't microsoft do this? by burnsy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Windows XP and Server 2003 do prefetch...

      http://www.jsiinc.com/SUBL/tip5800/rh5826.htm

      You can configure it here..

      HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Cont ro l\Session Manager\Memory Management\PrefetchParameters

      EnablePrefetcher Value Name, a REG_DWORD data type. Allowable values...

      0 Disabled.
      1 Application launch pre-fetch.
      2 Boot pre-fetch.
      3 Both Application launch and Boot pre-fetch.

    4. Re:why doesn't microsoft do this? by dnahelix · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because you won't buy another computer if it runs fast.

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    5. Re:why doesn't microsoft do this? by mbourgon · · Score: 4, Insightful
      It is a lot of harder to get software working than work faster than before.

      "there's no denying the fact that Jaguar is better than Mac OS X 10.1 in every important way. It's faster overall[...]" -- Ars Technica

      "I am hard-pressed to find any part of the user interface that does not feel noticeably faster in Panther than it does in Jaguar." -- Ars Technica

      "For over three years now, Mac OS X has gotten faster with every release -- and not just 'faster in the experience of most end users', but faster on the same hardware." --Ars Technica (http://arstechnica.com/reviews/003/panther/macosx -10.3-5.html)


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    6. Re:why doesn't microsoft do this? by acidrain69 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, but they make a crapload on selling windows liscenses to OEMs that make new computers.

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    7. Re:why doesn't microsoft do this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Doh! It's easier to optimize code for a fixed set of hardware like the Mac

    8. Re:why doesn't microsoft do this? by Nasarius · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Indeed. Limited hardware is a huge part of why Macs "just work". Linux is doing surprisingly well in this regard considering the kernel, toolchain, and OS works on everything from a toaster to a supercomputer. Microsoft has it much easier. One architecture (okay, now two since amd64), and all the hardware vendors write their drivers for them.

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    9. Re:why doesn't microsoft do this? by TWX · · Score: 2

      "Or am I just not using shitty enough hardware on the PCs I've owned at home and maintained at work?"

      What do you use? I've typically stuck with 3com for ethernet cards after the first set of problems that I had with the Realtek 8029 chipset, and I've stayed with some of the more expensive video cards that might not have the 3d performance that everyone raves about but continue to work well for years. I'm still running a Matrox G450 dualhead. I've had an EMU10K-based SB Live for a few years now, I try to use CAS2 memory instead of CAS3 (Still on decent quality PC/133) instead of going with complete crap for quality, and while I've switched to AMD for my processors, I try to buy the higher end stable boards rather than the $69 specials. I don't buy the Amptron crap, or the ever increasing array of Lite-On, WuTek, or MungaWunga Electronics crap.

      Now, I've worked on a lot of PCs for people that bought all of the cheap shit, including 400W power supplies that cost $15 new, Amptron boards, Celeron processors, crappy Fry's Electronics special memory, fast but cheap video accelerators, cheap hard disk drives, Realtek or worse ethernet, AC/97 sound built on, and the like, and their computers just suck. No performance for normal business applications, and the 3d games crash after awhile. Their $499 PC isn't worth the materials that would be gained by scrapping it.

      Back in 1998 or so I worked on a dual Pentium II system running NT4 that had a 3dLabs Oxygen video card with full GL support. It was a Dell Optiplex if memory serves, and I think that it had 256MB RAM. We put one of the Windows Quakes (I can't remember if it was Quake or Quake II) on the box and it ran 1024x768 full speed, absolutely beautiful. It was probably a $3500 computer at the time at least, and while it was extremely expensive it was very capable and probably served the user (who did 3d rendering and used this box for design and light duty preview) well for many, many years.

      It's all commodity now. Almost all consumer hardware is commodity. Most consumer operating systems and software is commodity. When it breaks you don't send a bug report to the software company and get a serious patch or fixed release back, you go buy the next version, which has all of the previous version's bugs fixed but a whole slew of new ones. If everyone remembers the service pack release times from the Windows 95 and NT4.0 days, they came out every few months, with very occasional fixes otherwise, just to take care of emergencies. Today Microsoft releases patches only because of the overwhelming need to keep their crappy-ass product one step ahead of those who would destroy the userbase's machines, and they still don't necessarily keep up. It's pathetic.

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  3. Gravity by Eberlin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nothing accelerates windows like a good ol' fashioned 9.8m/s^2

    1. Re:Gravity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      As we say in parachuting circles; The sky is not the limit, the ground is.

    2. Re:Gravity by m2bord · · Score: 2, Funny

      i beg to differ...

      it's been a while since i've had a physics course but isn't everything, including light, magnetic fields, and radio waves, affected by gravity in some way?

      but since it's a windows machine at rest perhaps it'd be best if it were acted upon by an outside force...say a hammer?

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    3. Re:Gravity by DJStealth · · Score: 5, Funny

      Unfortunately, that will only accellerate the time it takes for the machine to crash.

    4. Re:Gravity by Guppy06 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I dunno, I hear Microsoft has an app that will make Windows run pretty damned fast. I believe they called it FDISK.

    5. Re:Gravity by bugnuts · · Score: 5, Funny

      Depends how high up you drop it from....

      Most Linux systems crash just as fast, and just as often as Windows in this manner.

      You heard it here on /. first, folks!

    6. Re:Gravity by |/|/||| · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Information (i.e. software) is not necessarily affected by gravity. However, I don't know of any way to represent information in our universe that doesn't require something that *is* affected by gravity.

      So does software weigh anything? I guess it's just a matter of how practical you want to be. It's like asking whether an idea has any mass - can the idea exist without a brain/note/hard drive to store it?

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    7. Re:Gravity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      You gotta compile and instal OpenGravity. Then, go to OpenGravity config file and change the entry from 9.8 m/s^2 to 0 m/s^2. For a neat effect, change g to (-g).

    8. Re:Gravity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      sure that will stop it from crashing, but instead it will just hang. Not a very useful fix

    9. Re:Gravity by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 4, Funny

      I opened up all the documents on my hard drive, changed the fonts from 12pt to 7pt, saved them, so now the machine falls slower. I estimate it's around 9.4 m/s^2 now. I'm going to try again with 5pt fonts if I can get a screen with enough DPI to display it.

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    10. Re:Gravity by FireFury03 · · Score: 3, Funny

      OpenGravity is nolonger available as the courts have ruled it is infringing Microsoft's patent on gravity.

  4. Apple.com has a great accelerator by yanokwa · · Score: 5, Funny

    My Windows 2K install was pretty slow too, then I grabbed this one program. I think it was called Mac OS X. Ever since then, haven't had any viruses, crashes or slow performance. You should give it a try...

    1. Re:Apple.com has a great accelerator by p4ul13 · · Score: 4, Funny
      Details can be found here.

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    2. Re:Apple.com has a great accelerator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ever since then, haven't had any viruses, crashes or slow performance...

      ...or computer games!

      *ducks*

    3. Re:Apple.com has a great accelerator by arose · · Score: 4, Funny

      Who cares about Intel? All the cool penguins run AMD.

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    4. Re:Apple.com has a great accelerator by Procrastin8er · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...I did, but none of my applications ran on it :-(

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    5. Re:Apple.com has a great accelerator by flewp · · Score: 5, Insightful

      My Windows 2K install was pretty slow too, then I grabbed this one program. I think it was called Mac OS X. Ever since then, haven't had any viruses, crashes or slow performance. You should give it a try...

      My Win2K Pro install was pretty fast too. Ever since then I haven't had any viruses, crashes, or slow performance. I've never really found Win2K Pro to be at fault for a program crash. Photoshop, Lightwave, and the games I play are all stable. In fact, Lightwave crashed more on the OSX machines at school than here at home.

      It all boils down to the user(s) of the machine.

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    6. Re:Apple.com has a great accelerator by whitegold · · Score: 5, Insightful

      While I would disagree on principle with anything that says the Mac is any good at all (joking), this does raise some valid points.

      Windows machines DO get slower with time. Proper maintenance, uninstalling spyware, removing unneeded TSR programs, regularly updating windows, etc, can assist in this, it is FAR too difficult for the average user.

      "Stuff that starts when Windows starts" needs to be given a higher priority to the user. Even most experienced users I know aren't aware you can use msconfig to modify or remove all the CRAP that gets installed.

      This important a tool to be hidden like that is ridiculous. Microsoft claims that 80% of their support now is for problems related to spyware. Good. Then make it easier for (L)users to see what their computer is actually DOING and why. Don't call them "processes" and list all the windows processes as well. And put some information with them. Knowing that OSCDX is running means nothing to most people. (I made it up. It IS nothing.) But some sort of connection should be made between a process name, and a descriptive text. "Loader program for Gator advertising software", for example. Have a button to connect to a DB and FIND the file if need be.

      Additionally, we need education. People need to know that the 14 things they have running in their system tray are slowing the computer down. Why can XP tell you that you have icons on your desktop you haven't used, but can't pop up a window as you start saying "I notice you have a large number of programs running from startup. These slow your computer down. Click here to select ones you're not using to remove them."

      Another thing that bothers me about software is inconsistency of installation. For example, if you install 3 games, each of them will decide to be in a different folder. I HATE that. I hate having to remember "is this game by EA? Or Maxis? Or Fox Interactive? Valve? Vivendi?" just to be able to play it. If I install "Doom 3" I want the link to be in "Start - All Programs - Games - Doom3". Games - Half Life 2. Games - Sims 2. Don't make us remember the publishers, you stupid bastards. We don't care. Oh, and you're allowed to install an icon to the desktop, to tempt me to play when I'm supposed to be working. But only ONE. Do not link to your exe, help file, a web link, uninstall file, etc.

      Oh, and the top of the start bar is NOT an acceptable place for software to install to. ICQ I'm looking at you.

    7. Re:Apple.com has a great accelerator by lostguy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Bah, PC versions of games are just a five-year beta test for the Mac versions.

    8. Re:Apple.com has a great accelerator by Erik+Hollensbe · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Gawd. It's as if you guys really think there is some "one true OS" or something.

      Get with the real world. WIndows makes a great gaming machine, but when I want quick keyboard navigation of the system to get to a shell where I can run almost any unix program I would need out there, I sure as heck don't look at the gaming box. I sure as hell wouldn't use either OS X or Windows as a server, but OS X Server is starting to look nicer every day.

      It's ironic how so many of you (probably) have so many computers but put the same OS on all of them. Have you no sense of adventure or wish to learn alternate perspectives? Are you that short sighted? Waiting for the latest geek guru to come up with the new ideas may be how you work, but most of them know enough to look around and see how others are doing it and cherry-pick the stuff they think is good and add a few ideas of their own. Heck, all OSX is is a lot of polish on a mishmash of OS 9, NeXTStep, and FreeBSD.

      P.S. - I bought my first Mac (Powerbook 15" Combo) 6 months ago, they're finally usable now.

  5. Magic Beans??? by JaxGator75 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I've been skeptical and correct far too many times in the past to blow the streak on something like this.

    I think I'll wait and see what my geekly brothers have to say before I assume it is anything other than a faster way to have your data deleted.

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    1. Re:Magic Beans??? by Alsee · · Score: 3, Funny

      a faster way to have your data deleted

      Yeah, but it's 300% faster11!!!

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    2. Re:Magic Beans??? by magefile · · Score: 2, Funny

      Reminds me of back when file compression was the big thing ... one program would delete your file, then use UNDELETE trickery to get it back. Worked fine, until you overwrote those sectors or defragged.

  6. Yes, they work. by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 5, Funny

    They cost about $200 more than your current processor, and you can buy them from Intel or AMD.

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    1. Re:Yes, they work. by dan_polt · · Score: 2, Informative

      Are processors really the problem with windows machines? Windows just swaps to hell, and the CPU is sat there doing nothing.
      Get a gig of ram and things will do a lot more in 90% of situations.

    2. Re:Yes, they work. by jred · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I know *I* get tired of explaining to people that their brand-new, super fast CPUs are so dog slow because they cheaped out and got 128 mb RAM. I wish (in one hand and spit in the other) that Dell, etc. would stop even offering 128mb w/ WinXP.

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    3. Re:Yes, they work. by chrismtb · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It is definitely important to get enough ram. So many people get these dell systems that have like a 2.8 ghz processor coupled with 128 or 256 mb of ram.

      When building this computer, I went with 2GB of ram right off the bat (and yes, I fill it on a consistent basis while editing massive images).

      I'm not saying everyone should get 2 GB of ram, but it is certainly necessary to get enough for whatever work you are doing with your computer. And if you are barely meeting the minimum requirements of your operating system, then maybe it is a sign that you might need more ram.

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    4. Re:Yes, they work. by NuShrike · · Score: 2, Informative

      In your Gecko browser in the url:
      about:config
      set, or create boolean config.trim_on_minimize to false. That should mostly pin firefox/mozilla, etc in ram.

      Also, I have no swap running on any HD because all Windows really does is move its dynamic swap file into ram instead. That's what you see with PF Usage. I use TaskInfo to double check and it says 0 swap used.

      1GB of ram helps there, else Windows will insist on some disk swap, esp with 512MB or less ram.

  7. Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    silently preparing for something like Bonsi Buddy or XXX Toolbar

    And disappointed when that didn't happen. I know. I know. I love Bonzi Buddy too

    1. Re:Hmmm by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 2
      He would but it would most likely be a biased review as the submitter seems to be a PR person trying to get free advertising.

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    2. Re:Hmmm by Pharmboy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't forget 386to486.exe while you're at it.

      I had to google for it, dropping the .exe part, but found that littel jewel here. In spite of what you said, it seems to work. I installed it on my P4 2.4ghz laptop, ran it, and now my laptop runs as fast as a 486dx/66, just as advertised.

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  8. There is a simple reason by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful
    There are two simple reasons why microsoft does not incorporate these techniques into windows.
    1. Windows runs on many different pieces of hardware. Not all hardware supports the options that these accelerators need. Believe it or not, not everyone has an AGP video card.
    2. Linux is not faster as a desktop than windows. As the gnome and kde desktops are the main competition for Microsoft Windows, it does not make sense for microsoft to make windows as fast as it can, because Linux is not currently faster. If Linux does get better, then Microsoft will still have 'gas in the tank' to make windows faster again.
    Just my thoughts
    1. Re:There is a simple reason by i621148 · · Score: 3, Informative

      have you ever used fluxbox with linux?
      fluxbox
      there is no way any windows desktop can beat that speed.

    2. Re:There is a simple reason by jonfelder · · Score: 5, Informative

      I disagree.

      1. What options do the accelerators need? The AGP video drivers should take care of accelerating things that have to do with using the graphics card.

      2. Linux is not the main competition for Microsoft Windows on the desktop. Microsoft's largest competetor for the desktop is it's own older products. There are still many many 95 and 98 installations out there. I think it's very unlikely that linux desktop manager development is driving Windows desktop development. I think it's more the other way around, where Linux desktop developers look and see what works and what doesn't with Windows and implement features accordingly. Microsoft invests a huge amount on GUI research, makes sense for Linux developers to benefit from that instead of reinventing the wheel.

      I think these accelerators are junk most of the time, or they tweak things that make the desktop perhaps more responsive and thus it -seems- faster. You want a faster computing experience? Get new hardware.

    3. Re:There is a simple reason by southpolesammy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Our chief weapon is multiple hardware support...support and faster desktop execution...execution and support. Our two weapons are multiple hardware support and faster desktop execution...and ruthless efficiency. Our *three* weapons are multiple hardware support, faster desktop execution, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to Bill Gates. Our *four*...no....amongst our weaponry...are such elements as multiple hardware support, faster desktop execution...I'll come in again...

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    4. Re:There is a simple reason by cuzality · · Score: 5, Interesting

      there is no way any windows desktop can beat that speed.

      Don't be too sure.

      Lately I've been using LiteStep, a Windows version of the Unix window manager AfterStep, and I have to say I have been very impressed with the overall improvement in performance. I've got an old Celeron 800Mhz notebook with 256MB of RAM that was struggling under standard WinXP Pro, even with all window-dressing (so to speak) turned off (like zooming windows, big desktop background graphics, etc.). This was especially obvious when I would use a removable wireless adapter card -- Firefox was sluggish and even unresponsive at times. (And seriously, this was a completely stripped-down environment -- no extraneous services running or background programs sucking up available resources.)

      But since switching from Explorer to LiteStep as my default shell, just about everything about how Windows works has improved in terms of responsiveness and speed in general. My frustration level has been seriously cut down. And on top of that, my wife now refuses to use the laptop because of the new shell -- what a shame.

      I'd bet a WindowsXP machine using LiteStep as the shell could keep up with just about any stripped down window manager for Linux like Fluxbox.

    5. Re:There is a simple reason by Stevyn · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I agreed with you about point #2 when I used Mandrake. It was slower than windows. I was using KDE because you know what? I like a full fledged window manager. I shouldn't have to settle for IceWM just to get the speed of windows xp. Anyway, I switched to gentoo and it's faster than windows. I don't know if it's because I compiled most of the software (I did a stage 3 and compiled from there) or because they structure it better, but it's a hell of a lot faster than mandrake.

    6. Re:There is a simple reason by MikeBabcock · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There are commercial graphics accelerators for Windows that work very well -- commercially developped PCI and AGP video drivers that are more well-written than the stock ones from the manufacturer. See SciTech for more info ... and no, I don't work for them :)

      PS, they do the same thing for Linux XFree86 drivers as well.

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    7. Re:There is a simple reason by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 2, Informative
      then Linux is no longer Ready For The Desktop.
      Why is it that everyone tosses around "not ready for the desktop" as if it's a meaningful phrase? Thousands of us have been using Linux as a desktop OS for years, with great results, so the claim that it's not "ready for the desktop" is kind of ridiculous. If you mean that it's not "usable by Grandma" or "intuitive for a sub-moron gorilla" or "doesn't include the features I like best," then say that instead.
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    8. Re:There is a simple reason by misleb · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Totally. I don't really care about a slight improvement in minimizing windows or scrolling in a web browser or whatever. I want to know why does Windows still give the hourglass? I am sick of doing something in one app that brings a Windows machine to a crawl or worse, hang. Login to a Windows XP machine and it can be up to 30 seconds before the harddrive quiets down enough to get any work done. Yeah, the Windows GUI feels pretty zippy once it is loaded, but I can't tell you how much even the occassional hourglass outside of the working app pisses me off. And what is with that hourglass/arrow combination pointer? Is the computer too busy or not? Make up your mind!

      Unless my Linux machine is thrashing REALLY hard because of a runaway app or something, it never lags. No hourglasses. My desktop menus always pops up when I need them. I can have 3 applications crunching away in the background and my machine remains faily responsive with no hanging of the GUI.

      I think Microsoft has made the GUI zippy at the expense of proper multitasking. But I guess that is their choice to make that tradeoff. I prefer proper multitasking, personally.

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    9. Re:There is a simple reason by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is why in business most 'power users' have dual processors. Windows is notorious for going unresponsive just because something wants the CPU (just try hitting compile in VS.NET) and dual processors at least makes sure you've got a processor free to do some work.

    10. Re:There is a simple reason by strider44 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I've been using linux for the desktop for years now. After it's set up properly (which is indeed an ordeal) things run wonderfully. Programs are updated automatically. News reports (including slashdot) are beamed to my desktop. Everything runs like it should, and the functionality is more than windows would be after weeks and hundreds of dollars of effort.
      Windows users just look it and scream "AAH it's different!!!"

      Please don't tell me that linux is not ready for the desktop.

    11. Re:There is a simple reason by Proc6 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Or Hyperthreading. Or like me, both :) 4 CPUs in the Task Manager is cool even if 2 are fake :P

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    12. Re:There is a simple reason by Otter · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Why is it that everyone tosses around "not ready for the desktop" as if it's a meaningful phrase?

      As the use of capital letters in my part was meant to suggest, I wasn't referring to any use of Linux as a desktop OS (I'm posting this from a Gentoo box running WindowMaker) but to the ongoing UI squabbling that typically falls under the banner of Linux Is Ready For The Desktop.

    13. Re:There is a simple reason by Bitseeker · · Score: 3, Funny
      This is why in business most 'power users' have dual processors.

      Interesting concept.

      Bob: "You've got two CPUs in your computer? What on Earth for?"

      Neo: "One's for getting work done."

      Bob: "What about the other one?"

      Neo: "Oh, that's for Windows."

    14. Re:There is a simple reason by RevAaron · · Score: 3, Informative

      Instead of LiteStep, I reccomend SharpE. I've used it a bit on Win2k and liked it quite a bit. Some workplace issues made me go back to the regular config, but it's worth checking out. I liked it a lot more than LiteStep, although I've not used LiteStep since around 98-99.

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    15. Re:There is a simple reason by misleb · · Score: 2
      I don't mind an hourglass inside a particular application. That is understandable. I just don't like it when that hourglass follows me when I try to switch to another app while I am waiting.

      Another thing that pisses me off in the Windows world are "Would you like to restart your computer?" windows that won't go away unless you restart your computer. I thought I would be clever once and kill the application producing the window. But THAT rebooted my computer. I was so pissed. I was working on something.

      Anyway, I find less aggravation in a desktop, such as Linux, that doesn't try to do too much (without me asking). Less is more, as they say.

      -matthew

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  9. 300% speed increase -- caution flag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Too good to be true. Sorry, even Linux and BSD won't give you that much improvement over windows. Don't give 'em your credit card number.

    I'd buy your browsing speed will imporove 300% if you remove IE spyware, but a broad 300% speed increase is bogus.

  10. Don't use this ! by Wudbaer · · Score: 5, Funny

    I tried it, too, completely broke my new Dell !

    1. Re:Don't use this ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      When I used it, it broke the bank.

  11. details please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    So is someone going to post about their actual experience with one of these products?

    1. Re:details please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So is someone going to post about their actual experience with one of these products?

      No. This is Slashdot. All you're gonna see here is a bunch of repetitive jokes that aren't really that funny even.

    2. Re:details please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      1) Repetitive jokes that aren't really that funny even
      2) ?????
      3) Profit!

    3. Re:details please by Unnngh! · · Score: 5, Funny
      Netcraft confirms: Slashdot is dying.

      In another crippling bombshell to the beleagered /. community, Netcraft showed abysmal uptimes from the /. servers over the last several weeks. Part of the downtime was attributed to lame jokes, which caused the sysadmins to not care whether the site was running or not.

  12. Tip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Never accelerate your Windows when you live in a glass house.

  13. Doubtful by gotpaint32 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You have a huge entity like M$ and then you have these dingbat little companies making accelerators and crashproofing software. I don't like crediting microsoft for much on the OS end but I give M$ a bit more credit than for them to leave such an easy software fix undone. But hey that's just my two quid.

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  14. Uh-huh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah...by the same people who will enhance your manhood, give you immediate credit even if you're bankrupt and want you to click here to "unsubscribe" from future messages.

    Did you know that gullible is not in the dictionary?

  15. Old software... by Skates1616 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Both of these programs had their last revisions in late 2002, so it remains to be seen how effective they are now, or this is just some marketing BS...

  16. Kazaa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Programs like this never seem to work for me when I download them from Kazaa.

  17. Hmmm by ArchieBunker · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not the brightest bulb in the box are we? Why don't you buy the software and write a review based on it. Don't forget 386to486.exe while you're at it.

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  18. Hah! by alexburke · · Score: 2, Insightful

    prevent up to 95.8% of Windows crashes

    With statistics like that, no wonder I laughed so hard. Thanks for the morale boost! :)

    1. Re:Hah! by lordofthemoose · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I especially like the " revolutionary compact 88-bit Kernel, which accelerates common system instructions." I think they should have used a 37 bits kernel, since 37 is a prime number.

    2. Re:Hah! by red+floyd · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, they built it on a piano!

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  19. Hare by SynKKnyS · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I tried Hare and it never seemed to make a difference at all. It did have many interesting options, though.

    The only program that ever seemed to speed anything up was O&O Defrag (oo-software.com) who have a background defragger. Leave your computer, and the defrag turns on. When you come back, it is off in anywhere from instantly to a minute. The program also has a nice complete defragger to boot.

    1. Re:Hare by wfberg · · Score: 3, Informative

      For your defragmentation needs, you could also try buzzsaw.

      Also, sysinternal's pagedefrag and contig are pretty usefull.

      Not that defragmenting your hard drive will give you enormous performance boosts, though.

      The first thing I do when I sit down in front of an XP machine is turn of the unnecessary themes/skinning, animations and shadows, unwanted services (services.msc), unwanted start up programs (try sysinternal's autoruns), and of course the adaware/spybot thing.

      Also, I usually set the swap file to be some fixed number of megabytes (4 times RAM or some ludicrous amount like that), and make sure IE's and mozilla's cache sizes are pretty minimal (i.e. 10MB should be enough) if the machine is on a broadband connection.

      If these programs can do anything more to optimize my setup, they're welcome, but I wonder what exactly they do..

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  20. I call BS... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the hare website:
    Hare will improve performance no matter what software you use, thanks to a revolutionary compact 88-bit Kernel, which accelerates common system instructions

    WTF? This is complete BS.

    1. Re:I call BS... by narcc · · Score: 2, Funny

      And what are those revolutionary 11 bytes you may ask?

      "HELLO WORLD"

    2. Re:I call BS... by DarkDust · · Score: 4, Funny

      From the hare website:
      Hare will improve performance no matter what software you use, thanks to a revolutionary compact 88-bit Kernel, which accelerates common system instructions

      WTF? This is complete BS.

      No, it's not ! I have disassembled that 88-bit kernel, and here is the source:

      nop
      nop
      nop
      nop
      nop
      nop
      nop
      nop
      nop
      nop
      nop
    3. Re:I call BS... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's coming in version 2.0.

  21. How to speed up Windows by dicepackage · · Score: 5, Informative

    The easiest way to speed up Windows would be to keep it free of spyware and viruses. Almost every computer I go on is crippled because it is so bogged down with needless crap. I run Windows as my main operating system and all it takes is a little effort to get it running up to spead once it is free of viruses and spyware.

    In Windows XP you can get things running faster by right clicking on my computer going to properties and clicking on the advanced tab to go to performance settings. From here you can make things run for best appearance or best performance. There are a lot of things I have disabled such as the normal Windows XP start menu and almost every built in animation and fading technique built into Windows XP.

    Another good way to speed things up is to move the cache for programs to a RAM-Drive. This will keep things running fast by using the RAM as opposed to the hard drive and it will delete everything without a trace if you are paranoid that the feds are after you. I wrote a RAM-Drive program a while ago but it only works on Windows 9x. If you want to download the program it is available at http://home.comcast.net/%7Esessions9/RAM-Drive.htm l or you can search for it on Planet Source Code.

    1. Re:How to speed up Windows by Zocalo · · Score: 5, Informative

      Also, shut down all that extra crud that Microsoft enabled by default for the few users that might think about using it some day. You'll have more free memory (or less junk in the pagefile) and be less vulnerable to remote attacks as well. These packages might do this kind of thing for you, but most likely they are just snake-oil relying on the placebo effect and a "no-refund" clause.

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    2. Re:How to speed up Windows by jafac · · Score: 2, Informative

      Also, there's a Registry tweak that ensures the kernel does not get paged.

      Apparently - not widely known (suprising) because it works well on systems that are not heavily taxed, memory-wise (most desktop systems these days).

      Here's the ref::::::::::::

      Document ID: CTX195098, Created on: Jul 28, 2000, Updated: Apr 23, 2003

      Products: Citrix MetaFrame 1.8 for Microsoft Windows 2000, Citrix MetaFrame 1.8 for Microsoft NT 4.0 Server Terminal Server Edition

      Even on a system with a large amount of memory, NT will page out portions of the Executive in order to maximize available memory for applications. Disabling paging can improve OS performance when RAM is available.

      Disable paging of exec by setting the following registry key (wrapped for readability):

      HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Current ControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management
      DisablePagingExecutive:DWORD:00000001

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  22. It's possible, I suppose. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Although doubtful, I wouldn't say such software is impossible. Sometimes some rather neat hacks can be pulled. Example: The Apple Macintosh IIsi came with 1 Mb of on-board memory. This memory was very slow, AND it was shared with video. If you installed SIMMS, however, this memory could actually be operated at a faster speed (70ns max if I remember correctly) than the onboard memory.

    Some hacker wrote a program called IIsi RAM Muncher which allocates the first megabyte of memory on start-up, and then does nothing with it. Result? All your stuff runs in the faster SIMM memory. The speed increase could be as much as 400% - not bad for giving up 1 meg of RAM.

    1. Re:It's possible, I suppose. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh, my god.

      I /hated/ my IIsi. I was developing assembly with it, and found the video memory unbeleivably slow, as it was shared with main memory.

      I hated apple for their crippled design (I loved my Mac Plus so much), and ended up buying a NeXTstation and became a NeXT developer. Funny thing.

      I never thought there was a solution. I never guessed that, one day, some AC would give it to me in a random /. post.

      Thank you. You made my day.

    2. Re:It's possible, I suppose. by runderwo · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Many older PC memory controllers don't cache more than 64MB of system RAM. In the case that you want more than 64MB of RAM, the net result will usually be a slowdown in overall performance due to the kernel running out of uncached memory (it is loaded at the top of memory).

      The solution is the slram MTD driver. Pass mem=64M to the kernel to force it to load within the cached region, and then use slram to allocate the rest of system memory. This gives you a block device which you can use as a scratchpad, tmpfs, or even better, a swap area! Swapping to RAM (even uncached RAM) is much faster than swapping to disk in any case. I did this on my Toshiba Tecra 500CDT. The system has 144MB RAM but only 64MB is cacheable. It runs like a champ, and I don't need a swap partition on disk this way.

      The first time I described this idea to someone, he thought I was crazy. I realized why the reaction was such. Just think if you told someone that the magic secret to speeding up your system is to "put your swapfile on a RAM disk"...

  23. Connectix Ram Doubler and CrashGuard by sublimespot · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Connectix Ram Doubler and CrashGuard worked beautifully on Mac back in the day. I always wondered if the same thing could be done on PC as well as Connectix did it for Mac.

    1. Re:Connectix Ram Doubler and CrashGuard by jruschme · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ironically, Connectix did briefly make a version of RanDoubler for the PC. IIRC, it was very buggy and quickly killed off.

      From its description, Hare appears to combine the functionality of RamDoubler and other utility called MemOptimizer. Similarly, the same company makes a utility called Zoom which sounds a lot like the old StartupDoubler utility for the Mac.

      >>

    2. Re:Connectix Ram Doubler and CrashGuard by redJag · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My initial reply was going to be along the lines of "Ram Doubler" was just an early implementation of virtual memory, but that was wrong..

      Just an FYI for the non-Mac user, the classic Mac OS would allocate a given amount of RAM to each application at launch, whether it used it or not was up to the application. Ram Doubler would reclaim unused, allocated memory and give it to other applications that needed it. It would also compress memory if it hadn't been used for a while, and as a last resort would page out to the harddrive (like the Finder would already do).

    3. Re:Connectix Ram Doubler and CrashGuard by madsenj37 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ram Doubler and Speed Doubler worked beautifully but became unnecessary after OS 9 was released. Surf Doubler worked well also. I never tried crashgaurd. Once OS 9 came out with more PPC code, Connectix products for speed became obsolete.

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  24. Window Drawing by clockworx · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Could be they just turn off lots of the built-in delays that MS has in the system. You can turn of Window animation, menu item slide-in/fade-in/fade-out, and turn the delay to 0 for opening submenus. I do this with every install, and users always think the system is amazingly faster :)

  25. Mechanic-in-a-can by Gothmolly · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is like the people who, when you tell them that they need a new head gasket or valve seals, ask "Isn't there some stuff that I can put in my gas to fix it?" Of course the answer is yes, for $19.99, you can buy a bottle of stuff that will save you a $1000 repair bill.
    Or not.
    People are going to claim that "you can edit your 1337.ini file and set suck=no under the [R0XoR5] heading, and get a 11.1% FPS difference, d00d!"
    This is great for the tinfoil hat crowd, that MS, Intel and Madonna are part of a sinister cabal to put you on an upgrade treadmill. It's also great for the Uncle Joe 6Pack crowd, people who typically "know about computers" and have loud opinions on that great free HP printer they got when they signed up for MSN.
    There's no magic bullet.

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  26. ummm, yes and no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I haven't examined the current crop of these tools, but a lot of the old 'accelerators' simply did some system tweaks you could do if you knew what entry to change. They did work, but why spend $40 for it when the geek next door will do it for a bottle of soda?

    By the way, the accelerators can work because they turn off some 'features' that almost nobody will miss, cache stuff that wasn't cached before, and even increase the sizes of certain buffers and caches. At least in general, that's how they work.

    As to anticrash software, some is a nightmare to your system, some is useless, and some will drive you nuts.

    If you're talking about those that actually work, the trick is there are crashes going on all the time in the OS and other programs that just aren't handled. Anticrash programs 'handle' them and let you know. That's why people think they increase the number of crashes. They just make the invisible ones visible. The basic thing is windows ignores or poorly handles a lot of problems, but then again, they wrote that code before it was in the hands of millions of users. The anticrash programmers studied (if they are anygood) tons of data on crashes, and worked out methods to handle it better for those. Since 80% appx are caused by just a handful of errors, it's relatively easy to concentrate on just those.

    Useless piece of trivia...
    Back when ######## was working on creating their anticrash program, they found that the single most crash prone program on the windows platform was Microsofts FindFast. (Or is that FastFind, I always get that backwards...)
    That's a big reason why every technician will have you yank that from startup if they see it.
    It's EVIL ! That's pure EE - VILE ! Don't Touch it!

    Later peeps!

  27. Re:88-bit kernel by brsmith4 · · Score: 5, Informative

    From what the F.A.Q. was saying, it sounded like they rewrote a better windows kernel, which, judging by the outfit, is complete and utter bullshit. Those guys are playing entry-level power-user lingo to attract idiot "i-can-open-cmd.exe" users. 88 bit? Um, no. I don't think so.

  28. 10% FPS increase in 3D games? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    but will it make DOOM 3 faster?

  29. Interesting by sublimusasterisk · · Score: 5, Interesting
    From the Hare website faq:

    * Hare technology: the core of Hare is a re-written Kernel, working at up to 88-bit (instead of the standard 32-bit) and accelerating most basic system actions by acting as the Windows Kernel. This is done by triple-buffering all I/O data, in order to achieve an emulated 88-bit Kernel. This technology is fully safe and we have implemented safeguards in order to make it impossible to damage your computer.


    That seems a bit suspicious. 88-bit!? Ok, so it's emulated. That still seems like 1) a strange number (not 64, not 128) and 2) would "emulated" 88-bit architecture really work? Isn't the CPU's inherent 32-bitness (or 64-bitness) the end-all anyway?

    * CPU Tasking: the CPU Tasking technology's goal is to give more CPU to the program you currently use. Even if you don't know it, there are a lot of programs working in background and sucking CPU from your frontmost application - the CPU Tasking will know how much CPU you must give to each application."


    Doesn't Windows already do this?
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    1. Re:Interesting by cavemanf16 · · Score: 4, Informative

      88 bit operations on an Intel or AMD chip could only happen if you took 2 32-bit registers, added in a 16-bit register and an 8-bit register, and then combined those registers with a matching set of 2x32, 1x16, 1x8 register set. This would be physically impossible because that would take up more than the available registers in a 32-bit machine. Of course this is all pointless since noe one is EVER going to pass more than an _int64 instruction in any code in any program ever, so you'll never see the benefits of 88-bit instructions.

      That site is basically a complete lie, and if the article submitter actually thinks this sped up his machine, he should just go take a look at his system settings. My bet is that this "Hare" program just turns off a bunch of unneeded services and wasteful windows drawing options that come installed as defaults on all Windows systems.

      Besides, your memory couldn't pass 88-bit instructions, and even if it could, what good would it do to process a number that big? Just a bunch of Russian mobsters preying on clueless grandma's.

    2. Re:Interesting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Like the first AC said, but with different words, this 88-bit reference almost certainly refers to using the native floating-point registers.

      Before IEEE came along and standardize floating point math operations, every ISA vendor had their own way of doing floating point (some even had more than one way). Intel systems now support the IEEE format, but I'm pretty sure they kept their native 88-bit (instead of the now common 64-bit "double precision") format around too.

      They are probably using the floating point registers to either do some extra low-precision integer math in parallel or just as scratch space instead of the stack and/or L1 cache. In the past, access to the FP registers sucked worse than hiting cache, but maybe Intel/AMD tweaked things up a bit with recent generations to improve that.

  30. Regclean by ViolentGreen · · Score: 2, Informative

    Regclean works wonders. It's incredible how much a few messed up registry keys can bog your system down.

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  31. AntiCrash? by Psionicist · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, it didn't work on their webserver...

  32. A long time ago... by sonicattack · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...back in the (somewhat older) days when I spent most of my time in front of my beloved Compam 386 computer, I stumbled upon a bit of software called "386to486", which promised to instantly convert my 386 chip to a 486 chip. This was my first PC, and I didn't know much about it, but I was still a bit skeptical and very curious about how such a program could work.. So I checked the README file, which enlightened me on the subject with something along the lines of:

    COMPUTER MAKERS DON'T TELL YOU EVERYTHING! THERE'S SECRET TRICKS THAT CAN BE USED TO CONVERT YOUR 386 into a 486!

    Now, conviced it was just a hoax, or something worse, I tried the program. (I didn't really care about my data - the harddrive was dropped into the ground - multiple times, and the poor few working sectors I had only contained data I had copied from floppies anyway), The program happily told me the magical transformation was complete. I fired up MSD.EXE to check - no change in identification. Still a 386. I ran a benchmark program, which didn't show any change from before. Just to try, I ran the magic software again - this time I got the text "Your computer is already a 486!". At least the programmers thought about that. Well, no bigger disappointment, since I didn't really expected anything useful to happen. I never found out if it was a virus either...

    Years later - a new little utility turned up on the BBSes I frequented - it was called 486toPentium, and the cheerful description of the file was "FROM THE GUYS WHO BROUGHT YOU 386to486"

    Amazing! :^)

    1. Re:A long time ago... by sonicattack · · Score: 5, Funny
      Hehe, I just found both little gems on the web - the README file for 386to486 was a _lot_ funnier now than when I first read it... I love the part about "top notch ..... ", and "...work loads take off your regular cpu..." Here it is....

      SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS TO RUN THIS PROGRAM:

      o A 386 DX CPU with at least 1 MEG of Extended memory.
      o HIMEM.SYS / QEMM or any other EMM manager.
      o DOS 3.x or higher and/or Windows 3.1 (optional)

      Welcome to a FIRST in PC TECHNOLOGY. Your computer is capable of doing much more than you think, and the companies that make them don't tell you everything. Well WE WILL. What if we told
      you that there is a program that converts your 386 DX into a
      real 486 DX/2 66 MHZ! You would say it's impossible, or it's another one of those HOAX PROGRAMS. Well you are wrong. In fact there are many programs out there that CLAIM to SPEED-UP your computer or increase your memory, but do they REALLY give results ? They either eat memory, behave strangely, and the result is not significant.

      Well throw away all those programs, because 386TO486.COM is the right choice. Yes, this little program, under 22 K, will convert your 386 DX into a 486 DX/2 66 MHZ, SAFELY.

      This program only works with 386 DX's, it does not support SX or 286
      computers.

      Now you might seem skeptic and think this is a joke. This program took 6 months to program, and was carefully studied by top notch programmers and debuggers. They have come up with a SAFE technique to do so.

      We will not go into technical details, but we will attempt to explain. What this program does, is, it adds a mini TSR program into a protected memory area and this RESIDENT program acts as a CPU,
      it analyses the program being run and takes over the work, does
      its own calculations, compresses the program in memory, changes
      certain commands, all in realtime! All this frees up your
      regular CPU. So your regular CPU does its chores and the
      EMULATED CPU does its work too. It's like having a math co-processor,
      but in this case it's a CPU co-processor.

      And it's not all!!! This TSR does more than free the load out of
      your CPU, it also features a graphic processor and sound processor.
      2 independant built-in modules that take care of graphic manipulations
      in all modes including CGA, EGA, VGA, SVGA, XVGA, and modes up to 24 bit
      color. It's like having a seperate GRAPHIC CPU, so imagine all the
      work load taken off your regular CPU. It also features a built-in
      sound processor, that takes care of sound processing, for programs
      that use sound cards and PC SPEAKER as well.

      The program also features a MATH CO PROCESSOR emulator, even better
      than Q387.EXE, it is as fast as the real math chip itself, this also
      is installed.

      So with all these utilities in memory (TSR) it works to help free your
      CPU, it also changes your BIOS, setup and memory contents to configure
      it into a 486 66 so other programs can recognise it.

      When we say it converts it into a 486 66, we really mean it!!!
      Your 386 DX 40 becomes 486 66 MHZ, tests have been made
      and we measured the CPU speed with different programs.
      Without this utility installed we got from 37.5 to 40 MHZ!
      With the utility installed we got an amazing 67.2 MHZ to 74 MHZ!
      Faster than the real 486 66 MHZ!!!

      Everything is automatic and temporary, once you turn off your
      computer everything is reset. When you run the program it will
      read your configuration and adjust itself accordingly. This
      utility takes away NO MEMORY, it resides in a special unused portion
      of your memory, and it is fully compatible with ANY DOS version,
      any WINDOWS version, any other TSR's in memory, other memory
      managers, and 100% of all the programs out there.

      So we hope you understand the principle around this, it uses
      very complex programming code to acheive this. And it's more
      than just an emulation, your system becomes a real 66 MHZ SYSTEM!
      An

    2. Re:A long time ago... by Zerbey · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I had a similar piece of software that claimed to turn my 486SX into a 486DX with a "3-fold" increase in speed.

      It didn't work of course, but it did allow me to run some software that insisted on an FPU (Quake 1 was... interesting :-)). My raytracing software actually ran noticeably slower with it as it tried to make use of the emulated FPU :)

    3. Re:A long time ago... by Unregistered · · Score: 4, Funny

      Now i just need ATHLONtoG5.exe so i can run OSX.

    4. Re:A long time ago... by jamesh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The memory refresh could be modified on a 4.77Mhz XT giving a slight boost in performance. I think it worked by sending slightly less refresh cycles to the memory, thus making it available more often to the cpu (no cache or anything in those days). Of course if you reduced the refresh interval too much you'd start to get bit rot.

      I never tried it on anything but a 4.77Mhz XT so can't say if it did anything on a faster machine.

  33. looks like smoke and mirrors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    the "endorsed by McAfee" link doesn't list 'Hare', or did you mean Anti-Crash?

    i looked at the screen shots of hare, and it looked alot like the popup windows i've been seeing for accelerators. if you really did see a speed improvment, the you probably just found a spyware version of a spyware-blocker.

    from Hare's faq:
    * Hare technology: the core of Hare is a re-written Kernel, working at up to 88-bit (instead of the standard 32-bit) and accelerating most basic system actions by acting as the Windows Kernel. This is done by triple-buffering all I/O data, in order to achieve an emulated 88-bit Kernel. This technology is fully safe and we have implemented safeguards in order to make it impossible to damage your computer.

    there is so much BS just oozing out.
    so, they replaced the windows kernel?
    running 88-bit on your 64 or 32 bit cpu?
    triple-buffering?
    impossible to damage your computer?

    Hare is on the market since 2001 and no one ever experienced crash or data loss because of it.
    possible claim, after all, Hare isn't about saving and loading data, its about running programs, so any data loss would be do to 3rd-party failings.

    awards (on a popup?):
    techtv - 404 (site redesigned, so this is expected)
    locker gnome - 404
    file hungy - "Not Yet Reviewed" but has a 4.5 of 10
    shareware junkies - 5 of 5, english worse then mine.

    1. Re:looks like smoke and mirrors by Alsee · · Score: 5, Funny

      shareware junkies - 5 of 5, english worse then mine

      worse than mine

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  34. Survey of the posts suggest there is no answer. by Zancarius · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Perhaps my perception is wrong, but judging by the volume of posts falling into the categories of "M$ sux0rz, use Linux," "you're stupid if you tried it," or "this is /., you don't post questions about Windows without getting marked flamebait," I'd bargain that no one here has ever tried any of these and probably never will.

    Why? Pretty simple, really. Most /.'ers might not even be using Windows; those who are more concerned about performance would be likely to either a) install Linux/*BSD or b) tweak Windows themselves. After all, anyone with even a fleeting notion of performance is likely to switch operating systems rather than using potentially buggy software which itself may be carrying spyware components. I could be wrong, but it seems to me (again, using the Slashdot posts as a benchmark) that most of the folks who have tried "Windows accelerators" don't really know what performance is, how to achieve it, or how to right-click their mouse. I guess I'm a little disappointed that none of the tech-savvy Slashdotters have tried firing up one of these packages in a VM (VMware?) or on an old, spare box. (Come on, folks, at least 99.999% of us have at least a spare box or two lying around--maybe more.)

    So, why not try it? Rather than complaining about the question (and the individual posing it), why not dive right in and experiment? I've considered it myself, but given the fact that the audience here doesn't seem interested in a legimate answer, I'm somewhat reluctant. (I also suspect this comment is going to be given a -1, Offtopic...)

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  35. Man! by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The product placement is getting a bit obvious here...

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  36. Re:300% speed increase -- caution flag by Rick.C · · Score: 4, Funny
    The developers promised nothing less than up to 300% speed increase

    And I'll promise "up to $1M" to anyone who replies to this comment. Seriously.

    Bear in mind that the term "up to" includes the number "zero", so to promise "nothing less than up to 300%" is to promise "nothing less than zero".

    As for my "up to $1M" offer, guess which end of the scale I choose for payoffs. The zero end.

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  37. here's a question for you fellas... by acariquara · · Score: 2

    I was running one of these tweaking programs that crashed. No biggie, except that every splash screen now is broken (mostly white, text shows but the nice graphics are just plain white except for the occasional blue bar in the middle).

    I cannot activate ClearType, drop-shadows nor transition effects anymore. These options are grayed out. Strange enough, cleartype DO work if I enable it using third party programs like ClearTweak. But nada for dropshadows, including the mouse pointer drop shadow.

    I tried basically everything and cannot find how to "undo" this. When I try to run the program again to undo changes it crashes the entire system, forcing a power cycle or at least a cold reset.

    Any help?

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  38. Suspicious review by gwernol · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...the review mentioned Hare 1.5.1. The developers promised nothing less than up to 300% speed increase, 10% FPS increase in 3D games, automatic RAM preservation and even a wizard that automatically cleans and optimizes Windows. It also had AntiCrash 3.6.1 a program to prevent up to 95.8% of Windows crashes.

    Hmmm... "prevents absolutely no windows crashes" meets the criteria of "prevents up to 95.8% of windows crashes". Strike one - plus what's up with the obviously made-up 95.8% statistic with its meaningless but important-sounding precision?

    After a little research I found that download.com didn't have it and there are precious few reviews of this revolutionary software online, but that it was endorsed by McAfee

    So by now we've decided its "revolutionary". Good to see an unbiased starting point. Also, since when does "sold by" mean "endorsed" in all but the loosest sense? Strike Two. Oh, and notice that McAfee only sell one of these products, and not the one that the reviewer makes the most claims about...

    Still suspicious, I gathered all my courage and installed both programs... truth be told, after several minutes I was blown away. Obviously I can't tell how well every promised features works, but disk caching (and pre-fetching) that Hare does is outstanding and display performance improved enough to scare me.

    Ah well, that's okay then. Asked and answered. And absolutely no signs of bias in this result . Absolutely no signs of any attempt at objective measurement of results either. Not one benchmark or even stopwatch timing showing any improvement at all? Strike Three.

    Isn't it about time Slashdot started asking its reviewers if they have any affiliation with the product they are touting?

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  39. Yes it is! by TexasDex · · Score: 2, Funny
    Hey, "Gullible" is too in the dictionary!! I checked myself!

    Wait a sec...

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  40. Maybe it works.. by EvilIdler · · Score: 5, Informative

    ..or maybe not. I tried Hare on a Win2k installation, which died not
    long after. It had a ram-optimiser, which *seemed* to at least free
    memory from programs that didn't free everything (leaky MMOs).

    I did find some registry settings that gave somewhat more of a
    result, though. Some of them are from Slashdot posts, others from
    various tip sites. Here are the filesystem settings I use for XP:

    ----- BEGIN -----
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSe t\Contr ol\FileSystem]
    "NtfsDisable8dot3NameCreation"=dwo rd:00000001
    "Win31FileSystem"=dword:00000000
    "Wi n95TruncatedExtensions"=dword:00000001
    "NtfsDisab leLastAccessUpdate"=dword:00000001

    [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
    "NoLowD iskSpaceChecks"=dword:00000001
    ---- END -----

    This switches off many filesystem options the average user doesn't
    care about, and increases disk activity a little when handling a
    lot of files at a time.

    The NtfsDisableLastAccessUpdate key means no files are tagged with
    a last access timestamp when you read them, and the last option
    is a convenience to kill off that pesky low diskspace warning that
    tends to pop the game I'm playing to the back while nagging..

    There are also some virtual memory settings you can try, if you
    feel brave:
    ----- BEGIN -----
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSe t\Contr ol\Session Manager\Memory Management]
    "ClearPageFileAtShutdown"=dword:00000 001
    "IoPageLockLimit"=dword:00020000
    "LargeSyste mCache"=dword:00000000
    "NonPagedPoolQuota"=dword: 00000000
    "NonPagedPoolSize"=dword:00000000
    "Page dPoolQuota"=dword:00000000
    "PagedPoolSize"=dword: 00000000
    "SecondLevelDataCache"=dword:00000100
    " PhysicalAddressExtension"=dword:00000000
    "WriteWa tch"=dword:00000001
    "DisablePagingExecutive"=dwor d:00000001
    ----- END -----

    Just stick everything into a .reg file and double-click.
    If you want to know what everything does, Google for it - it's best
    that you investigate before trusting me blindly ;)

    1. Re:Maybe it works.. by EvlG · · Score: 3, Informative

      Be careful when using the "NtfsDisable8dot3NameCreation"=dword:00000001".

      I tried that once, and I was surprised at the number of programs that still used 16-bit APIs (and thus required 8.3 name creation). This setting will break those apps.

      One that stood out in my mind was one of the more popular installers...I forget which one it was now though.

  41. Not worth it. by MisterFancypants · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Some of these products do actually make a performance difference, usually by altering the way the system does memory management. However, the performance difference is usually usage dependent so you may or may not see the difference based on what you do with your system.

    Having said that, in my experience these programs virtually all cause some instability or other that makes them just not worth it. I wouldn't run one of these for the same reason I don't overclock my systems -- the couple of percentage points of increased performance just isn't worth the increased risk that my system might die at some critical moment, causing me to lose hours or more of work.

    YMMV.

  42. had a junk machine so I thought I'd try it for fun by LBartrich · · Score: 2, Informative

    I was about to install suse 9.1 over win2k on a machine anyway so I thought I'd give this hare thing a try for the fun of it. No personal information on the machine and my other machines are safe from tampering even if this goes haywire.

    anyhow, end results:

    render of a fairly complex frame using softimage 4.0 with mental ray 3.3 at a fairly low res.

    with hare, 1:30.
    without hare, 1:24.

    So hare actually managed to slow down the render a tad. This is mostly a cpu and memory intensive task with a little opengl thrown on top for showing me the rendered frame.

    so I'd say this thing is bogus. Especially given that 3d rendering should be heavily helped by any 64 or 88 bit kernel optimization voo doo.

  43. Oops... by CommanderData · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's a mistake there. You accidentally disassembled the CPU-Cooling program. The 88-bit kernel gets it's 300% speed boost by only executing every third instruction!. Of course, you may notice some odd glitches in your favorite software, but boy is it fast! ;)

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    1. Re:Oops... by BasharTeg · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not really. Most processors optimize xchg eax,eax by just throwing it away anymore.

  44. Another Simple Reason: APPARENT speed gains by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In creating GUIs for programs I've worked on, I've noticed that people will THINK I've made something a lot faster if only I tweak how the slow task looks on the screen. For example, let's say my program parses an XML file in 5 seconds. I have some options:

    1. Let it freeze my GUI
    2. Change the cursor to the 'busy' cursor
    3. Show the user a progress bar

    Of course the easiest to do is option 1, but to users this also appears to be the slowest. 2 is an improvement -- but still seems kinda slow. Users think option 3 is blazingly fast for some reason -- and EVEN BETTER is if you create a progress bar that fills up to 100% multiple times before it's done (users no doubt think "WOW, look at that progress bar go!").

    But back to the point: windows accelerators. I remember finding a registry tweak a LONG time ago which eliminated the short delay between displaying 'trees' in the start menu. Whenever ANYBODY used my computer (while this tweak was in effect), they always told me how fast it seemed to them. Was it faster? Well, yes, a 0.1 second delay was removed, but really it didn't make what you were trying to do go any quicker.

    I guess my point is that speed doesn't matter so much as appearance.

    1. Re:Another Simple Reason: APPARENT speed gains by mst76 · · Score: 4, Informative

      > I remember finding a registry tweak a LONG time ago which eliminated the short delay between displaying 'trees' in the start menu.

      For anybody interested, it's [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\MenuShowDelay], the value is milliseconds delay (400 default). If you don't like mucking with the registry directly, get yourself X-Setup, it's like TweakUI, only ten times better.

    2. Re:Another Simple Reason: APPARENT speed gains by spitzak · · Score: 2, Informative

      The best example of apparent speed increase is double-buffered windows, where you don't see it redraw but instead it draws in an off-screen area and then puts the entire new image on screen at once.

      Until recently this was always slower than on-screen redrawing, mostly because it bypassed video hardware acceleration (this is 2D I'm talking about, not 3D). Therefore it took as much as three times longer before the screen was updated to the current state. Yet despite the fact that it was literally slower, it looks faster to users.

  45. I can't believe they accepted this story by conway · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So slashdot is now turning into an advertising medium for the software equivalent of snake oil?
    I can't believe the editors let this sort of crap through. The seeming "question", and then the amazing success story of using the wonderful Hare program. Ugh.
    Even if this "advert" wasn't intentional by the submitter (which I have a hard time believing), it is giving this shady Hare program way more free publicity than it deserves.

  46. It works GREAT! by bugnuts · · Score: 3, Funny

    It sped up my system so fast that my Blue screens of death turned into a RED Screens of Death!

    1. Re:It works GREAT! by spamchang · · Score: 3, Informative

      that's only a speed indicator if your system is moving away from you (i.e. doppler redshift). i say blue screens go violet with increased speed =P

  47. Why get new hardware? by Roadkills-R-Us · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For a huge percentage of non-business users, a more responsive desktop is all the faster computer they need.

    I find the idea that you should buy new hardware when your old hardware is grossly-underutilized, or at best ill-utilized, appalling. Are you a hardware vendor? Or an MS employee?

    Certainly the AGP video drivers should take care of acceleration. But apparently, they don't! At least, not as well as they should, by default.

    I suspect most Windows users could get a noticeable speedup from their current hardware, if only MS had made it easy to do so. Instead. you have to be a registry expert, which is right up there with assembly language programming on most folks' skills list or list of things to learn.

  48. lies, lies and damn lies by js3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    these "optimizing" programs are meant for idiots. There is no point explaining the technical details to them because it requires thinking on their part. Show them a program with a few graphs that jumps up and down claiming to be "optimizing" memory and they think their system runs faster. Never mind the fact you just released memory for abolutely no reason except to make a nice graph, slowing down the system while applications using the memory run smack right into one page fault after another.

    what's so great about having a nice graph telling you, you have x amount of free memory? what the hell are you going to do with your free memory? look at it?

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  49. By syllogism by atomm1024 · · Score: 2, Funny

    1. On Slashdot, nobody values the opinion of Windows users.
    2. The only people who can answer this accurately are Windows users.
    ...3. PROFIT! ... No, wait, wrong silly Slashdot reference.
    3. Therefore, the only people who can answer this accurately will not have their opinions seriously considered.

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  50. Re:88-bit kernel by Sebastopol · · Score: 2, Funny

    The emulate the integer execution corein the FP unit, translating everything to 88-bit floating point notation!

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  51. Less technical explanation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Nice post on prefetch, but the link is a little dry. Here's a more analogous article. http://asia.cnet.com/enterprise/apps/0,39035809,39 172453-39000221c-1,00.htm

  52. My input by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've seen older (win9x and win2k) installs fragged by "registry cleaners" who swear up and down some key is unneeded or incorrect and then lo and behold, you get rid of about a dozen of those...and stuff starts working funny. Since then I steer clear of any kind of "Clean up your computer" stuff. The only apps I use in that vein are Spybot, Spysweeper and Norton AV

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  53. Doubting Thomas by ThisIsFred · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I seriously doubt there is anything revolutionary here, and most likely you're trading one thing for another. If I disable XP system restore and file indexing, I get better load times, but I don't have the capability to restore the previous configuration, and my searches take longer. I don't care about those, so I disable them, and it's a win for me. But I thought one of the improvements of NT-family desktop operating systems was not allowing UI stuff to hog so much processor time. Sounds like a step backwards to me. And higher framerates aren't everything. I'd rather trade 10 frames if it means I'm not losing client update packets to choke, or that my keyboard input isn't being ignored.

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  54. bugmenot.com by ThreeDayMonk · · Score: 5, Informative

    bugmenot.com has a login for you. Once logged in, the site works properly.

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  55. Stop it with the grandma by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 3, Interesting
    It is insulting, some grandmothers broke bloody enigma, worked on the first computers, developed the first computer languages. If you don't get linux or for that matter windows just admit it.

    You would be suprised how many grandmothers worked in business and had Unix come in as the newbie. To them linux will be childs play just as soon as someone actually allows them to get their hands on it and the teenage looser grandson doesn't think he knows best.

    For the rest I agree with you. My linux desktop been more then ready. I code, surf, watch movies all a lot easier and faster then on a windows machine. I still can't understand all the stuff about codecs. Movies just work for me. Got to love mplayer. Linux not ready? Windows is not ready. Windows got the codecs, just not the architecture to install them all easily.

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    1. Re:Stop it with the grandma by God!+Awful+2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's nice that you can be modded up for the politically correct stance defending grandmothers, but it's also obvious that you are smoking crack. My mother (a grandma) can barely program a VCR and her computer skills are limited to reading e-mail (however she can't print e-mail or send e-mail). My grandmother (a great grandmother) can't operate a TV or a VCR at all.

      So while I'm sure there are a few grandmothers out there who are genius UNIX hackers, I suspect they are few and far between. Face it - most old people have trouble adapting to new technology. You insult our intelligence when you make a whiny post criticizing the OP for stating something that everyone knows is true.

      -a

  56. 88 bits by atrader42 · · Score: 4, Funny

    That seems a bit suspicious. 88-bit!?

    It just uses your piano along with your processor. As long as you can stand the noise of your piano running at several Ghz, it's quite the improvement.

  57. speed vs. Correctness by flaming-opus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lets just pick filesystems and buffer caching as one area of an operating system that can be tweeked to show some phenomenol performance gains. If you remove all the synchronous I/O requests made by a filesystem, you can improve performance on the slowest operations by orders of magnitude. However, watch out if you loose power in the middle of extent allocation and end up writing binary file data over the top of the root directory.

    You can short circuit a lot of semaphores in the OS and speed up any operations that require concurrency. It'll work most of the time, and trash your data 2% of the time. If you don't need correct behavior, speed can be had more easily.

    That said, windows is built to run decently on some pretty odd hardware. If you strip out all the unnecessary drivers, and set up some better config defaults for your hardware you can make some big gains. Setting memory zone preallocation, default filesystem allocation size, maximum table lengths, I'm sure you could easily add 75% to your performance ON AVERAGE. I am, however, extremely skeptical of any claims about game frame-rates. Games interract with the OS minimally, and are mostly hardware bound.

    -my $.02

  58. Re:88-bit kernel by WolfWings · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually, they seem to be accurate.

    What they mean by 88-bit kernel isn't what most Linux users mean by kernel. They're referring to the programming style of the graphics kernel.

    In this case, they're using floating-point registers for data moves, and other 'demo-scene' tricks to gain much higher memory bandwidth than simple 'mov eax, [screen]' assembly would normally generate, which is what the stock Windows graphics kernels use. In practice, it actually works quite well, and hand-tuned assembly-language memory-twiddling routines (which are all graphics kernels are) will be 2-4x faster than equivilant C/C++ code would be, so the speedups for some operations (like redrawing the windows, which is all the program is really claiming to speed up) are true.

  59. Benchmarks on 2 machines showed no improvement by kurt.griffiths · · Score: 2, Informative
    I tried Hare, Zoom, and Double Battery. Benchmarked using Performance Test and was totally... NOT blown away. There was no significant change. I also just worked as usual on my laptop/workstation and did not notice any difference, except that Windows shut down a little bit quicker with Zoom, but not much.

    The programs include "benchmark" utils that tell you will get a great speedup - I can't figure out what they were testing, though!

    Clearly, these people are not to be trusted. I have had better luck tweaking registry settings as someone else mentioned. If you want the benchmarks from me, let me know.

  60. Something to compliment these well by ShadowRage · · Score: 2, Informative

    www.litepc.com

    the stuff works well, ieeradicator works nicely, sped up my small gaming box noticeably by removing major IE components.

    I havent tried the rest yet, but that suff will give you some speed as well, add the programs in the article to the mix and you can make your friends piss their pants.

  61. WARNING: Parent's sig is malicious by Dwonis · · Score: 4, Informative

    As an AC poster pointed out, the parent's 'sig' executes rm -rf /

    I tried to post an analysis, but I kept getting hit by the lameness filter, so I posted the analysis to http://www.dlitz.net/stuff/malicious-perl-sig/

    Hint: If you're somewhat familiar with Perl, try doing the analysis yourself. The code is actually not anywhere near as complicated as it looks.

  62. Same reason why taking a "long" short cut in a car by anti-NAT · · Score: 2, Interesting

    works.

    I find avoiding sitting at traffic lights on major roads by going via the back streets, even if the trip takes longer in both time and distance terms, feels shorter. I'm keeping moving, so I feel like I'm getting somewhere for more of the trip.

    Which tends to indicate that if you can distract a human mind from making "time monitoring" the current focus, a human mind will not perceive lengths of time as accurately.

    I think your progress bars are having the same effect as me taking the backstreets.

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  63. Re:88-bit kernel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    x86 floating point registers are 80 bits wide, not 88. Well, unless that's changed recently, but that would break old code for no good reason.

    I can't think of anything in x86 processors that's 88 bits wide... Of course my knowledge is a little old, but that's a mighty odd data size.

  64. Re:Doom 3 pirated--news that Slashdot won't report by Azghoul · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I remember when I thought it was cool to copy games from the boys, run some crack to bust it open and so on and so forth. Then I grew up.

  65. Not quite, hon. by WolfWings · · Score: 2, Insightful

    For those that have, say, a TNT2, GF2, or ATI Rage 128 card, but are running an Athlon-XP 2800, the CPU is far faster than anything the graphics card can accomplish. I've seen that happen when someone just buys a new MBoard+CPU+Memory combo for $150 or so somewhere, slaps their old video card, network card, and hard drive in, and reinstalls Windows as needed.

    So, no, comparing the tricks of floating-point or (for 88-bit) process-status data-moves to the memory bandwidth of a 9800XT($350 roughly on PriceWatch right now) isn't a remotely valid comparison. Someone that can afford $350 on the VIDEO CARD that only helps game-playing for the most part isn't going to have a slow enough computer that the program linked to (Hare) would even be an interest to them. A water-cooling system to overclock with would be more their speed and price range, most likely.

    However, if you're building a budget computer (say an Athlon-XP 3200, add an extra 1024MB of RAM and you're still looking at less than the price of a single 9800XT) it's very likely that the CPU is capable of more than the on-board video card for most older games (Counter-Strike, anyone?) for example.

    And to be more precise, SOME video cards made after 1994 support stuff like font acceleration. Most don't, especially the ones built into most motherboard. There's a lot more video cards out there than just those running NVidia and ATI chipsets, hon.

    1. Re:Not quite, hon. by Moraelin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Hon", even ancient Cirrus Logic cards from '94 had font acceleration. Blit acceleration is pretty much standard ever since ancient Tseng Labs cards from '90-'91.

      _Also_, if you have a TNT2 card, it's gonna probably be PCI, because and AGP 2x card will likely won't even work with a modern mobo. So your 80 bit tricks go through a 32 bit 33 MHz PCI bus. Instead of letting the card do it over a 128 bit bus, and much higher clocked too. And having to get background data out of the graphics card, combine it, and write it back through that slow bus. Gained any speed? Hell, no.

      _Also_, as has been pointed out, there is no "88 bit" in a PC. The float registers are 80 bit, not 88, and still go through a 64 bit bus anyway.

      Believing the "88 bit" stupidity alone already tells me you're completely clueless. The rest of the message just confirms it.

      So, sure, go ahead and buy your "88 bit kernel." Buy logging rights in Sahara, while you're at it. While we're at it, care to buy a +3 Talisman of Crash Protection? Just glue it to the computer and it'll never crash or get a virus. Honest ;)

      God knows noone went bankrupt by UNDERestimating people's intelligence, and such posts are just proof.

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  66. This and Doom3 by _KiTA_ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I installed Hare and enabled the various video options. Then I went into Doom 3. Holy crap.

    It made a huge difference. No more jittery lag when mobs appear, no graphics lag when waving the camera around too fast, etc.

    The only problem is that I suspect the game is running TOO fast now. The chainsaw "feels" faster to rev up and animate. Going down an elevator I could have sworn took a while last time only took a few seconds this time, etc.

    I suspect that Hare runs on the same principle as GEAR, the old MMORPG eploit. Basically what Gear would do is force a program, like, UO, EQ, AO, etc, to run faster than it should by speeding up the clock timer. The games, which had delays and waits built in to slow the player down, suddenly didn't have to wait, and ran a ton faster.

    I also highly suspect that Hare automatically puts the current active program on the highest or second highest priority. This would also explain why Doom3 gets so much more FPS.

    I'm gonna go play more doom 3 as.. er, research, ya, research to test this theory out. I suspect that playing during a cut-scene is going to be interesting.